Acoustic Guitar Bridge Pins Comparison

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  • Опубликовано: 12 сен 2024
  • If you have a good guitar, do you need to change a bridge pins on it to get better sound?
    I used Kawase Master 100H guitar made in Japan in 1970s. It is good copy of old type Martin D-28 handmade from selected all solid woods. New Martin strings were set up. Else I used modded old Rode NT1 microphone and Tascam UH-7000 for better sound recording. I am amateur player, but I tryed to play the same way. Do not judge strictly. The rattling that is heard when playing by the pick is due to the fact that the anchor in this guitar is not regulated(like in old Martins too). The strings are lowered. After changing the strings, you need to wait a couple of days for the neck finally bend a little and the rattling disappears. But I made this recording in one day.
    For my taste I liked Ebony pins and maybe brass. But the difference is barely perceptible. Changing plastic pins for any other makes sound slightly better I think. Some details in resolution, depth and sustein appears. But if you have a good guitar, the best you can do is to set a new strings.

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  • @alsonc
    @alsonc 4 года назад +117

    *Individual notes*
    0:30 plastic
    0:44 bone
    0:56 ebony
    1:09 tusq
    1:25 brass
    *Strumming*
    5:19 plastic
    6:08 bone
    6:59 ebony
    7:51 tusq
    8:44 brass

    • @gingerbeer914
      @gingerbeer914 3 года назад +3

      WRONG!
      There is no bone in this video.
      It's horn.

    • @Xxmeca421xX
      @Xxmeca421xX 2 года назад +1

      @@gingerbeer914 yeah horn is softer

    • @barryhartzell7468
      @barryhartzell7468 2 года назад

      Way to go Alson, this helped a lot, thank you!

    • @caryl2043
      @caryl2043 2 года назад +2

      I thought the bone and ebony were more sustained and even toned while the brass was twangy and the 2 plastic were flat?

    • @BobK5
      @BobK5 8 месяцев назад

      The only difference is what you want to make it, the plastic are just as capable as the others

  • @NansRoweK
    @NansRoweK Год назад +20

    Recently i changed My plastic pins for brass pins and it's so crazy!!! I loved the brass sound, it's so brilliant and clear.

    • @bighes100
      @bighes100 Год назад +2

      I just bought a dark mahogany Tanglewood acoustic, has a lovely deep rich tone, think I'll put brass pins in then it'll brighten up top end to go with the low end 😊

    • @DANIEL-RICKIE
      @DANIEL-RICKIE 10 месяцев назад +3

      Brass resonates like a bell. You wouldn't fashion a bell out of ebony or plastic right?

    • @NansRoweK
      @NansRoweK 10 месяцев назад +1

      @@DANIEL-RICKIE Spot-On! the Best answer than i've read. Exactly, brass pins sounds like a Bell 👌🏼 it remembers me the Fender Strat sound but unplugged.

    • @rustinonthevine
      @rustinonthevine 9 месяцев назад +1

      @@DANIEL-RICKIE but you could fashion a guitar out of ebony wood.

    • @susanroycroft89
      @susanroycroft89 9 месяцев назад

      Yes l agree, Iv'e done it to 3 of my Acoustic's, I feel there's a Slight Improvement in the sound ( to my ears anyway)😊😊😊
      ,,

  • @63stratoman
    @63stratoman Год назад +9

    I would say that the fitting of the pin along with how the string makes contact with the bridge plate are what makes the biggest difference. It is all about transferring the sound of the string to the top of the guitar and what your guitar top does with it after this.

    • @xttocx
      @xttocx 7 месяцев назад +2

      When you say fitting, do you mean how hard it's pressed into the wood, or something else?

  • @jimmycollette9209
    @jimmycollette9209 2 года назад +5

    My old ears couldn't tell any significant difference. I guess it's all up to the user. Maybe it's what pleases your ears. Thanks for the demonstration.

  • @ronmitchell859
    @ronmitchell859 3 года назад +17

    I think you're right - a new set of strings probably makes considerably more difference.

  • @rafadorock4
    @rafadorock4 3 года назад +21

    From all of them and from the sample provided, in my opinion I found the tusq the most balanced from all them. The frequencies and harmonics are well balanced. But, the Brass one is the brightest while maintaining a good balance between strings. This one for sure will help low end acoustic guitars which have no good bright sounding, also can help in finger style results. But for a replacement, in my opinion, tusq is the best.

    • @bighes100
      @bighes100 Год назад

      Totally agree, I've just bought a Tanglewood mahogany acoustic guitar, has a lovely deep rich tone so the brass will help the upper tones.
      Think I'll buy brass 👍

  • @lukeh9199
    @lukeh9199 3 года назад +26

    To me, plastic sounded less lively overall. Bone and tusq sounded very similar to each other and had a tad more richness across the board compared to plastic. Ebony sounded similar to bone & tusq but with a slight smooth butteryness in the bottom end. Brass had the biggest discernable difference in them all with some sparkly jangly stuff in the upper mids, which sounds good but isn't my style.
    Of course I can only hear what I heard, y'all may disagree.

    • @Glicksman1
      @Glicksman1 3 года назад +2

      Sometimes less lively is what you want. It's all so subjective.

    • @lindamorgan2678
      @lindamorgan2678 Год назад

      @@Glicksman1 Agreed bright is not what I like, so I am leaning to the ebony.

    • @bighes100
      @bighes100 Год назад

      Agree 💯

  • @theguitarschoollosangeles7064
    @theguitarschoollosangeles7064 7 месяцев назад +4

    Agreed, right out of the gate in about a heartbeat. Ebony for sure.

  • @labyrinthzero3427
    @labyrinthzero3427 3 года назад +20

    whoever of you thought about how to make a prefabricated version of pins? after all, with bronze, 1 and 2 strings sound unnaturally bright and I would put a bone on them; put Tusq on 3 and 4; on 5 and 6 bronze. I'm sure this would give the advantage of bright strings to become quieter and bass strings to be clearer and more structured and readable.

    • @Xxmeca421xX
      @Xxmeca421xX 2 года назад +1

      Good idea. I'm going to buy cheapos and try that

    • @AwanGitar
      @AwanGitar 2 года назад +2

      Amazing

    • @brushstroke3733
      @brushstroke3733 2 года назад +1

      Great idea. Someone should market that set.

    • @keithclark486
      @keithclark486 2 года назад +2

      You can achieve the same as with different strings / make of material. Most of the tone is transferred through the strings to the saddle ' body woods is where you will notice the biggest difference.

  • @whatwouldhousedo5136
    @whatwouldhousedo5136 Год назад +8

    Don't hear too much difference except with brass, which I didn't like much. One thing I have noticed- I have two Taylors with ES2 systems, one with plastic pins and one with ebony. The plastic pins pick up the edge of my hand moving on the pins; I rest my hand on the bridge and it can produce a bit of squeaking sound through the pickup (the piezo elements on the ES2 sit between the saddle and pins and contact the back of the saddle instead of sitting underneath like many other piezo pickups), where the ebony pins do not do this. I'm changing the plastic to ebony.

  • @darleystar
    @darleystar 3 года назад +7

    Fascinating video . I was surprised I found the mid-range tone on the brass so good . Excellent , thanks .

  • @chucklakeridge7944
    @chucklakeridge7944 9 месяцев назад +6

    Pretty awesome demo. I though ebony sounded great! My take away is that the pin material and it's characteristics should be matched for the guitars character. For instance, I have a dark sounding Mahogany Takamine that improved mightily by trading the old plastic for Tusq. It brightened it a bit and balanced the low/high. I might buy Brass and see if that brightens it up a tad more. I have a Taylor that is too bright, so I may put in the Tusq or try Bone and ebony.
    There's also no rule that says you cannot mix and match.

    • @smandez2023
      @smandez2023 Месяц назад

      Nickel strings like Webstrings, Martin Retro, Curt Mangan Monel, etc. work great on Taylors (especially if the b/s woods are mahogany or sapele).

  • @geeraertjean-luc9476
    @geeraertjean-luc9476 4 года назад +18

    Thanks ,It's very interesting ! I tried too , and the result is that It really depends of the wood : on one ( massive Spruce top ) ,the best is ebony pins. On my second guitar ( massive mahogany top) the best are plastic (!!!) and tusq ( but both different sound) . What astonished me , is that the bone wasn't the best...! And about nut and saddle, the best for me is Tusq. Thanks again ,Greetings from France !

    • @gingerbeer914
      @gingerbeer914 3 года назад +2

      Bone was NOT tested. It was HORN.

    • @markharwood7573
      @markharwood7573 10 месяцев назад

      Don't be surprised the plastic ones can be the best.

    • @markharwood7573
      @markharwood7573 10 месяцев назад

      @@gingerbeer914 Yup. Different substance.

    • @gingerbeer914
      @gingerbeer914 10 месяцев назад +2

      ​@@markharwood7573 You're absolutely right! Sometimes the plastic is of such good quality/density that they outperform ebony pins. I even found a difference in sound between certain black plastic pins and white plastic pins! It's different for each individual guitar. I know, because I have a few dozen acoustic guitars, from parlor to 00, 000, OM, Dreadnaught to Super Jumbo. It's fascinating what you may find when you start swapping pins for each of them.
      For a couple of pretty weak sounding Korean guitars (Cort L100P and Crafter TA-050AM) brass pins are a huge improvement, but not for every guitar. On some the effect is a harsh into your face sound, and that's not what I want.
      The best thing you can do, is: buy a couple of different bridge pin sets from China for very little money and start experimenting with brass, ebony, rosewood, bone, horn, white plastic and black plastic.
      The experiment might cost you €12-20, but you can repeat it endlessly for every guitar you own and make notes (or even recordings) of the results!
      Getting the best sound out of each of your boxes for ±€12-20 makes buying and trying different pins a very rewarding investment.

  • @maxwellfan55
    @maxwellfan55 2 года назад +5

    Good comprehensive comparison, thank you for your efforts on our behalf.
    I have no doubt the brass pins mute and compress the tone. I hear no sparkle or extra treble as most people claim. I also tried brass on many of my different guitars and got the same result except with one rosewood dread with 13's tuned down, which increased the projection and bolstered the overall tone somewhat, slightly compressing but not negatively so.
    If you have an overly bright guitar, brass might be worth experimenting.

  • @labyrinthzero3427
    @labyrinthzero3427 3 года назад +10

    Excellent work. Thank you! Thanks to your video, I dispelled my fears about the bronze: it sounded winning and rich in harmonics, almost like a 12-string! the bass is not so sluggish and booming, but articulated and clear!

    • @gingerbeer914
      @gingerbeer914 3 года назад +2

      Calling horn bone is NOT excellent.

    • @labyrinthzero3427
      @labyrinthzero3427 3 года назад +1

      @@gingerbeer914 Right. Horn bone has the worst indicators for brightness and sustain! It's like a hoof or a fingernail from a finger.

  • @toddclarke1580
    @toddclarke1580 10 месяцев назад +2

    Brass pins are a true improvement to any guitar, I’ve used them all and can’t play without brass pins now. The top vibrates more, the strings sing clear and deep like a piano. The other pins are just blah .

  • @heartagramskater21
    @heartagramskater21 4 года назад +16

    Thank you for taking the time to do this! I’m thinking of using two ebony pins for the bass strings and 4 bone for the rest

    • @heartagramskater21
      @heartagramskater21 4 года назад +3

      Update: used 2 ebony for the bass strings and 4 buffalo horn (similar to bone) for the rest, and it sounds fantastic!

    • @gingerbeer914
      @gingerbeer914 3 года назад +3

      The so-called bone WAS horn

  • @bighes100
    @bighes100 Год назад +3

    I think Ebony & tusk are best overall sound, clear with no vibration sound, the brass has a raw clear sound which i like though.

  • @smandez2023
    @smandez2023 Месяц назад +1

    Ebony for brighter guitars, bone for mellower. Bone saddles for everything. ❤

  • @labyrinthzero3427
    @labyrinthzero3427 3 года назад +8

    Of course, it's time for me to delete my previous comments due to the fact that the other day I bought 3 sets of pins (bone, Brass, Palisander) as well as the Graphtech Tusq saddle and the Graphtech Tusq (white) and Graphtech Tusq (black) saddles.
    Here is my conclusion on guitar by Simon & Patrick Song Smith:
    The guitar itself was originally equipped with similar ringing when sounding with TUSQ, if dropped on the table like a coin rings, but still the TUSQ has a little more high frequencies.
    The guitar had beautiful resonating overtones, but lacked brightness ...
    The black TUSQ degraded the sound, taking away the brightness and adding more body. I didn't like it and the white TUSQ enriched the guitar with the best harmonics, adding brightness.
    With regards to Pins:
    - Bronze - brought in a little iron sound and completely deprived the guitar of resonance and low frequencies (the bass disappeared, the middle became flat and the high frequencies became poisonous). Sustain 4 out of 5.
    - Palisander - brought in a lot of body, voluminous velvet warm sound (the bass became very voluminous, but after that their clarity disappeared - they became blurred, the middle became melodious and the upper frequencies lost a spark). Sustain 3 out of 5.
    - Bone - showed the most amazing overtones !!! Each note became elastic, staccato, with excellent balance in ALL frequencies !!! Sustain 5 out of 5.

    • @TrophyMove
      @TrophyMove  3 года назад +2

      Thank you for your comment! I think it depends on guitar much. But bone may be universal solution for everyone. Actually in my comparison, it is horn, not bone. It seems that I need to find bone to compare it with horn.

    • @labyrinthzero3427
      @labyrinthzero3427 3 года назад +1

      @@TrophyMove Of course, there is no universal thing or anything, but you need to take into account the timbre of the instrument itself and find the expression you need for it using different materials. I purchased all 3 options from the Japanese company Pick Boy (at least there they were made by the USA company) and recommend them. But I do not recommend the HORN at all, since it is just like an animal's hoof or a human nail ... but even a rhino horn - by its properties it is the same as a soft human nail. The horn kills everything sparkling and sonorous in the instrument.

  • @petes3305
    @petes3305 9 месяцев назад +2

    Not a lot of difference between them to my ears, until you get to 'brass'.
    Brass doesn't sound quite as warm as the others, but is a tad brighter, with better definition. I prefer brass pins on my Sigma and Seagull guitars. They also polish up beautifully.

  • @damrtnkid8580
    @damrtnkid8580 3 месяца назад +1

    No one can hear the difference only the guitar player who changed the strings pins and tweecked it all will be able to hear it when the player finds the combination that suits there hears it is a noticeable improvement

  • @dori4567
    @dori4567 Год назад +1

    Thanks , this was exactly what I needed to choose my set of bridge pins. Great comparison . I’m defiantly choosing bone , it sounded a bit more mellow to me which is what I wanted.

  • @edroberts8405
    @edroberts8405 4 года назад +9

    Thanks for the video, I like the Ebony the best.

    • @kingleonidas9672
      @kingleonidas9672 4 года назад +1

      ED Roberts I like the ebony as well

    • @TrophyMove
      @TrophyMove  4 года назад +5

      @@kingleonidas9672 I expected bone will be the best, but prefer ebony too. Maybe it depends on guitar.

  • @lindamorgan2678
    @lindamorgan2678 Год назад +1

    Just what I was looking for.. bone or ebony for me but leaning to the ebony Thank you so much this is was excellent as all your comparisons are.

  • @RobTackettCovers
    @RobTackettCovers 2 года назад +2

    Hmmm...I wonder if anyone has tried to use a mix...I saw a comment that using brass pins caused the low end of the guitar to be reduced...I wonder if maybe using Ebony pins on the 2 lower frequency strings and brass for the other 4 would be better...or, you know, like a really refined way of doing it based on results...like using a specific made pin for each string by checking on how well the frequency response of each respective string gets enhanced by trying each type of pin for each independent string position, and then going with the one that gives the best desired result for each respective string? Regardless, thanks for sharing this experiment with us!

  • @NllBll
    @NllBll 4 года назад +4

    Thank you very much, nice recording, you can here the different colours. Anyway I replaced the plastic pins on my 40 year old Sigma DR 14 from Levin ( Sweden ). I used Taylor Ebony Pins and they are an amazing upgrade for little money.
    Btw. I love Thomastik-Infeld Spectrum Bronze strings on that guitar ( .012-.054 )
    Cheers

    • @stavrospapadimitriou7631
      @stavrospapadimitriou7631 3 года назад +1

      Those Spectrum strings are great. For a week. I'll stick with Elixirs. Also great. For several months.

    • @Glicksman1
      @Glicksman1 3 года назад +1

      @@stavrospapadimitriou7631 Optimas are great for a year.

    • @stavrospapadimitriou7631
      @stavrospapadimitriou7631 3 года назад

      @@Glicksman1 Do you mean those bling-bling gold things?

    • @Glicksman1
      @Glicksman1 3 года назад +1

      @@stavrospapadimitriou7631 I sense a slight, but foolish insult here.
      Well, if you think that Optima strings are "bling-bling gold things" you clearly have no experience with them. After more than 52 years of playing guitar, I've tried virtually every kind of string on virtually every kind of guitar. I've settled on Thomastik-Infeld and Optima as my choices and I like Pyramid as well. When you have been playing as long as that, I wonder what you'll have discovered.

  • @Blackhawk182182
    @Blackhawk182182 2 года назад +2

    I wish someone would go further with this ... Its very subjective .. Record the sounds and analyze them . see what the difference in materials are actually doing to Low mid and high... Then we can talk about what you want on your guitar , and what would be the best material for you preference of required tone.

    • @Mrdecc100
      @Mrdecc100 5 месяцев назад +1

      Just what I was thinking. Seeing the audio spectrum of each type of bridge material will take away any preconceived difference in tonal quality. Of course it's up to you to determine the sound that inspires you to play more.
      As for me, I plug in to an acoustic amp, and feel that determining which amp to perform with makes all the difference about being inspired to play more.

  • @denyel_
    @denyel_ Месяц назад

    holy crap! wonder if slots or no slots would make a difference as well
    great post!

  • @SpankTheGods
    @SpankTheGods 3 года назад +2

    Love the comparison and love youre playing youre example. I love the brass. Bright as heck. Gona be great on my taylor 210 E thats always in C standard.

  • @DanielGennaro
    @DanielGennaro 3 года назад +6

    I think that the bone gave it a little more clarity in trouble and the Ebony made it a little more warmer and softer, I bought a tailor guitar number 214 without a pick up and I’ve been thinking about putting in a LR braggs Anthem SL. And from the reviews it seems like they can get a little boomy and bassy so I’m leaning toward bone to reduce that

  • @vs_830
    @vs_830 3 года назад +2

    Best comparison is made when strumming. Plastic is messy. Bone is extra high. Ebony most balanced and distinct. TUSQ is like ebony but not natural. Brass gives more to low end IMHO.

    • @terry4372
      @terry4372 2 года назад

      i agree with what you said

  • @GraemeSPa
    @GraemeSPa 2 месяца назад

    I hcanged the oroginal pins in my Larrivee for brass and it made a noticeable difference in tone and sustain. I put the same set of pins in my Martin and it made no change at all.

  • @patrickevelyn8028
    @patrickevelyn8028 6 дней назад

    Ebony for bright guitars, brass for mellower guitars..
    Those were the 2 that seemed to make a difference
    The others sounded similar
    IMHO

  • @adamh7947
    @adamh7947 2 года назад +2

    Thanks this was very helpful and informative

  • @electricragtime
    @electricragtime 2 месяца назад

    I have a set of ebony pegs with brass centres ....no slots in the pins ...I've slotted the bridge slightly to compensate ....made a fair difference to the tone

  • @2000SkyView
    @2000SkyView Месяц назад

    Bridge Pins definitely have a big influence on tone

  • @ssvman100
    @ssvman100 6 месяцев назад

    If you play into a DAW you can see the EQ spike in different frequencies some push more mids bass etc they may not be heard through computer or phone speakers. At least you ear phones for better definition!

  • @ianitang8409
    @ianitang8409 3 года назад +2

    I like the ebony

  • @davidchavez4464
    @davidchavez4464 3 года назад +2

    My 2 cents. Plastic is horrible just makes it sound mute. Brass adds twang like a banjo. Ebony to me sounds the most natural. Bone and tusq was really hard for me to spot the difference I wanna say it has slightly more top end then ebony but I would be lying if I said it was that noticeable

  • @Kurecify
    @Kurecify 2 года назад +2

    I switched to ebony (yamaha cpx900) and the tone is more mellow, and less defined, bass is muddy, mids are lower, harmonics are dampened a bit. Less shimmer. It does not carry my voice as it used to, so I'm switching soon. Tusq would be my choice.

  • @XenaTheQuadCamBikah
    @XenaTheQuadCamBikah 3 года назад +1

    Great comparison video thank you! I like the bone and Tusq. I’m ordering a set of bone from Bob Colosi next week.

    • @gingerbeer914
      @gingerbeer914 3 года назад

      Bone wasn't even tested. It was HORN. Bone is white. Just read the package.

  • @brushstroke3733
    @brushstroke3733 2 года назад +1

    Thank you this was excellent!

  • @glassbox7761
    @glassbox7761 3 года назад +2

    I liked the ebony ones more.

  • @luckyrocks1
    @luckyrocks1 5 месяцев назад

    To my ears, brass wins. Would love to also compare the Martin Liquid Metal and D’Addario Titanium pins.

  • @Liquormans
    @Liquormans 2 года назад +1

    Good comparison video. Thanks for posting.
    I'd say Bone sounds best then the Tusq

  • @Guitars-N-Guns
    @Guitars-N-Guns 8 месяцев назад

    I'm in the Tusq camp I believe. Ebony and Bone are close seconds (in that order)...but yes I can absolutely hear a difference in all of them.
    Any electric guitar I've ever bought with a Plastic nut (looking right at you Fender Squier) IMMEDIATELY gets changed to a Tusq. And any acoustic guitar I buy that comes with a Plastic nut gets changed out to Bone---bridge pins and saddle as well. I HATE plastic on guitars. Too chimey and fake'ish.
    Brass don't float my boat on sound either---maybe just Telecaster saddles, but Brass gets too chimey for me as well.

  • @tom.mihalis
    @tom.mihalis 4 года назад +2

    Great comparison! Thanks!

  • @chriss2452
    @chriss2452 Год назад +2

    Another important thing is that the pins are not slotted

    • @sonclearbrahman-ar1461
      @sonclearbrahman-ar1461 5 месяцев назад

      Yip. Slot the bridge with a 45 degree angle. Get the ball ends snugly against the bridge with no pin. Then, use non-slotted pins or rotate the pin slot away from the string. 👌

  • @whssy
    @whssy Год назад +1

    I liked bone best. Was clearly a mellower sound to my ears than the others, so much so I wonder if you played more gently. Ebony was similar.
    Brass was interesting. Super bright. On a 12-string could perhaps be "very interesting".
    Plastic was worst. Tusq to me sounded almost the same as plastic.

  • @newffee
    @newffee 3 месяца назад

    Ebony and Tusq are very nice but brass makes everything louder more equalized . Brass is way heavier though. So what you could do is cut off 1/2 inch off the tip and bevel the end steeper. Less weight easier to vibrate.? Just a thought.

  • @brittain522
    @brittain522 3 года назад +3

    I think they all sounded amazing! Thanks for sharing this.

  • @frank-mm7oo
    @frank-mm7oo 11 месяцев назад +1

    They all sound good because of the Guitar being used.

  • @eddiejinthehouse
    @eddiejinthehouse Год назад +1

    If u want increased low end (Martin boom effect) and at the same time supress the treble what would be the best mix of pins ? My goal is to make ovangkol sound a bit more like rosewood if its possible. Ovangkol - strong mid but lack low end / high end Rosewood - strong low /high end but lack mid.

  • @normbarrows
    @normbarrows 2 года назад +1

    I'm surprised that you can actually hear a distinct difference on a RUclips vid. Did you intentionally show them in order from darkest to brightest sounding? For A / B comparison testing, shorter sound samples are better. I personally use brass on all my acoustics.

  • @patricknelson1471
    @patricknelson1471 4 года назад +4

    ok ebony rules them all but i like TUSQ also

  • @lvonh9388
    @lvonh9388 3 года назад +6

    It's not bone its horn.

    • @TrophyMove
      @TrophyMove  3 года назад +1

      Well, yes, you're right. If I find bone pins, I will try to make a new comparison.

  • @316diag
    @316diag 9 месяцев назад

    anything but plastic for the 3 lower strings,
    ebony or bone for the higher strings.
    if i could only choose one: ebony

  • @markharwood7573
    @markharwood7573 10 месяцев назад

    I hear the plastic as the best all-rounder. The audience will neither care nor notice so you may as well have the best-looking set.

  • @murraymall5116
    @murraymall5116 4 года назад +5

    Ebony would be my first choice; Tusq would be my second choice. Thanks for the video.

  • @G_Demolished
    @G_Demolished 10 месяцев назад +2

    The string is not vibrating where it meets the bridge pin. That’s why the difference is not super noticeable.
    That said, my understanding is that plastic pins have a tendency to get mangled and using a harder material is better for preventing the ball from slipping and slamming into your bridge plate. That seems like a better reason to switch.

  • @presentelaw
    @presentelaw 4 года назад +2

    Interesting comparison. First riff was between plastic and brass. There was another where ebony sounded best. Where the brass pins slotted?

    • @TrophyMove
      @TrophyMove  4 года назад +1

      It is Meideal bridge pins

  • @andreifilip6364
    @andreifilip6364 7 месяцев назад +1

    I see no one is mentioning the buzzing

  • @kazkylheku1221
    @kazkylheku1221 4 месяца назад

    Are these pins slotted or not? Do you have slots in your bridge holes or not?
    If the bridge is slotted, you should be able to remove the pins and the strings stay in place; do you hear a sound difference then?

  • @robertlester641
    @robertlester641 3 года назад +1

    Ebony was most pleasing to me

  • @HarryNicNicholas
    @HarryNicNicholas 9 месяцев назад

    i used to have a dione twin neck, 6 and 12 string with brass nut, saddle and frets - rather unique. big as a wardrobe though.

  • @shawnbbbross9439
    @shawnbbbross9439 3 года назад

    very nice recordings, thank you

  • @user-ev9qw3om1g
    @user-ev9qw3om1g 7 месяцев назад

    I have a brand new guitar and I'm having so craving much trouble with the bridge pins.

  • @col145
    @col145 8 месяцев назад +1

    🤣😂……🤪… forget the pins, the strings rest on the bridge & the nut & the material that they are made of helps define the tone NOT the pin material…….. think about it 🙃

  • @ramrocker1004
    @ramrocker1004 3 года назад +2

    Ebony seem to top the test but im thinking brass could be an option for very warm sounding guitars specially the all mahogany ones. Maybe it will somehow give it some balance with the brightness it brings?

    • @zachary1657
      @zachary1657 3 года назад

      I was always told mahoganies were dark and chocolatey from videos i watched online but once i started playing them in person i found out all mahogany guitars are actually the brightest wood combination. Any guitar with a hardwood top (mahogany, koa, acacia) would benefit from ebony pins.

    • @ramrocker1004
      @ramrocker1004 3 года назад +1

      @@zachary1657 bought an all solid mahogany a couple of months ago and I’d say it’s far from bright. But The nut, saddle and pins are all of plastic so those maybe factors too. Already bought bone nut and saddle and ebony pins. We’ll see how it turns out

    • @zachary1657
      @zachary1657 3 года назад

      @@ramrocker1004 Yeah i guess bright isnt the right word because for sure they favor the mid range. Compressed is definitely a key word. but the trebles have a certain snap to them that i just dont know how to put into words. And after putting ebony pins on i like the sound of the trebles a whole lot more; it sort of tamed them. Its all subjective i suppose, depends on the guitar and the individual’s perception.

    • @ramrocker1004
      @ramrocker1004 3 года назад +1

      @@zachary1657 yeah i cant wait to have the ebony pins, along with the bone nut and saddle, to get fixed into my guitar. I’m just looking for a cheap luthier to get it done haha. Coz this needs to get its action lowered too

    • @bighes100
      @bighes100 Год назад

      Yeah my new Tanglewood mahogany acoustic guitar has a deep rich tone, so think I'll buy the brass & top end should increase too 🙂

  • @aaronpatton6674
    @aaronpatton6674 6 месяцев назад

    I think the ebony pins sound the best. More woody and natural

  • @verelmito6464
    @verelmito6464 3 года назад

    Nice one !! Anyway first of all what kind of nut and saddle that you used in this comparison?

  • @bodichair
    @bodichair 9 месяцев назад

    Ebony took a slight edge over the tusq in my opinion warmer with more depth from the low notes .

  • @ajeet490
    @ajeet490 Год назад

    the "bone" pins are ,in fact, labeled as Horn on the package.!! Very different materials.

  • @tommygun9090
    @tommygun9090 2 года назад +1

    Can I ask what wood the top and sides of your guitar are made from and what is the nut and saddle made of ? This will help to better understand the differences heard with the different pins.

    • @TrophyMove
      @TrophyMove  2 года назад

      Hello! Solid spruce top, solid Indian rosewood back and sides, natural bone nut and saddle.

    • @hanliem9241
      @hanliem9241 2 года назад

      @@TrophyMove top solid spruce with bone nut&saddle, no wonder ebony pin sounds perfect with your guitar

  • @timothypotter2137
    @timothypotter2137 Год назад

    To my untrained ear they all sound good, perhaps the ebony has a slight edge, then the Tusq (I love their products) ant then the brass. Sounds like you can't really go wrong.

  • @maplebones
    @maplebones 7 месяцев назад

    I use ten penny nails. Sheetrock screws are also good.

  • @padrejohnruffle
    @padrejohnruffle 3 года назад +2

    My Álvarez is quite bright - I play extra light phosphor bronze - your video was a nice confirmation that ebony adds a little warmth and bring out the low notes. Was surprised how good overall the brass were - it certainly added attack. Unsurprisingly, all the options better than plastic. Now let's hear the difference between plastic, bone and TUSQ saddles!

    • @padrejohnruffle
      @padrejohnruffle 3 года назад

      Of course it should go without saying that strings make the single most massive tonal difference. I'm going to try 80/20 bronze 11s on my Alvarez to help bring out the bass tones. For some reason I've always used phosphor bronze.

  • @mattiecreates
    @mattiecreates 11 месяцев назад

    Personally i like ebony pins in my guitar, It resonates better and i do have noticeable more sustain as well my guitar is slightly louder. |
    The brass would be fun to play with but i think its to loud and to bright for me.

  • @Akapickles
    @Akapickles 4 года назад +2

    Never understood some high end guitars with plastic pins. I upgraded to ebony years ago and have been very pleased.

    • @WysteriaGuitar
      @WysteriaGuitar 4 года назад +1

      I asked a luthier that once and he said because plastic is not subject to temperature changes which can push on the bridge holes or contract. Still, I use bone myself...

    • @padrejohnruffle
      @padrejohnruffle 3 года назад

      @@WysteriaGuitar Yep, apparently safer to ship with plastic pins. You can swap them out when doing the setup.

  • @joshuahendrickson4854
    @joshuahendrickson4854 2 года назад +1

    This was such an informative video. The person who did the edit with the links to the different sections really helped me out. I'm totally blind and being able to go wright to a specific pin type was great. I'd say for me, no completely for the plastic and the brass. I thought the bone and tusq were very similar to each other. I liked the ebony very much and I think for me, it is the winner. However, I'd not say no to the bone or tusq either. I never thought a thing about bridge pins until I recently played a deluxe martin hd28 and a standard hd28. There was a major difference. The deluxe hd28 with the liquid metal pins was much brighter then the standard hd28 with plastic pins. I've got a d18 that is an amazing guitar and sounds better the more I play it. I'm going to have someone at my local music store put on a set of ebony pins. I'm looking forward to hearing the difference. I think it will make my d18 sound even better.

    • @barryhartzell7468
      @barryhartzell7468 2 года назад

      I'm with you here, Joshua, the Ebony appealed to me most too. Listen to this guy, fellers-he listens with his ears!

    • @joshuahendrickson4854
      @joshuahendrickson4854 2 года назад +1

      @@barryhartzell7468 Thanks Bury. I'm glad you liked my comment. I don't care for very bright sounding guitars. When I played the deluxe HD28, the liquid metal bridge pins gave that guitar a brighter sound. It wasn't exactly bad, just not to my taste. The same thing with these bridge pins. The ones that sounded the warmest and fullist to my ears were the ebony. There was also this kind of ringing aftertone when the E Chord was played. Its kind of hard to explain the sound that I mean. It was a very interesting sound.

    • @maplebones
      @maplebones 7 месяцев назад

      It's hard to compare pins that on two different guitars . There are many variables that contribute to the sound.

  • @luc5798
    @luc5798 10 месяцев назад +1

    isn't it more the nut that makes a difference in sound... ?

    • @BryanClark-gk6ie
      @BryanClark-gk6ie 4 месяца назад +1

      It's the saddle' you will only hear a slight difference on open strings at the nut.

  • @NoraphonKaedklung
    @NoraphonKaedklung 8 месяцев назад

    Thank you.

  • @hupur
    @hupur 2 года назад +1

    the frequency of the tusq actuakky goes out of tune when letting it ring..The brass sounded the best to me.

  • @THEGLASSMANSWORLD
    @THEGLASSMANSWORLD Год назад

    I have glass pins which I made and they sound nice!

  • @Glicksman1
    @Glicksman1 3 года назад +2

    Just a small word: A friend of a friend told me on the phone that he just couldn't find a good set of strings for his D-18. He said he'd tried a dozen kinds and just wasn't happy. I went to see him to give him some help. Guess what, he was a terrible player. He couldn't have made a good sound on any guitar with any strings. He needed a lot of practice and time, and even then..... I think there's a lesson there, but I'm not sure what it is.

    • @jasons.6747
      @jasons.6747 3 года назад

      Deep Thoughts, by Jack Handy

    • @Glicksman1
      @Glicksman1 3 года назад

      @@jasons.6747 DTBJH is meant to be humourous. You found my comment funny? Good for you.

    • @Glicksman1
      @Glicksman1 3 года назад

      @@prospero11 "Tragically funny." My, but you're so deep.
      I thought I said something like that with regard to strings, which can be analogized to bridge pins, but I guess I was mistaken.

  • @sugarnap245
    @sugarnap245 3 месяца назад

    Ive got a stainless steel bridge in my acoustic and a bone nut, brass sounds great but would be too bright, ended up with bone !

  • @ayushpratap4726
    @ayushpratap4726 4 года назад +6

    I likes the bone one !

    • @gingerbeer914
      @gingerbeer914 3 года назад

      It's horn, not bone.

    • @ayushpratap4726
      @ayushpratap4726 3 года назад

      @@gingerbeer914 In the thumbnail its written bone, everyone else is also calling it as bone in comments

  • @corkystclair7475
    @corkystclair7475 Год назад +4

    Unpopular opinion of the day... I've got to be honest, the plastic sounds really good in this video. Going from plastic to horn, I can truly say I preferred the plastic. The horn, and even the ebony that followed, sounded darker and less lively, through my speakers. Of course that could have a lot to do with the synergy between your recording device, my DAC, amplifier and speakers, but as it sits, plastic would be my favorite from this video. Truth be told, I'm still pulling my plastic pins and putting in bone tomorrow. 😆

    • @gingerbeer914
      @gingerbeer914 8 месяцев назад

      I even noticed that black plastic sounds better than white plastic, ebony and bone in my maple Ibanez Concord. So, I'm not surprised anymore. I think it's about the combination of the materials and the body shape and dimensions. I buy them as cheap as I can find from Ali and just start experimenting. Brass pins gave my Korean parlor and 000 a real boost. The better guitars mostly sound fine with their original pins.

    • @dnottis
      @dnottis 8 месяцев назад

      I've tried doing these same things in the past. For some reason I always end up back at plastic and it sounds the best for some reason. I've spent a lot of money trying bone, ebony, brass and at first I think WOW this sounds great. After awhile it I'm not happy and go back to stock plastic and always think "there's the sound I feel in love with originally..." our ears play tricks on us a lot of the time.

  • @stevehughes240
    @stevehughes240 3 года назад +10

    You know what, all I can hear is my phone speaker.

    • @bighes100
      @bighes100 Год назад

      Listen on TV you'll notice a difference then 👍

    • @cristianseibriger799
      @cristianseibriger799 Год назад

      You don't listen to theese sound diferences trough a phone speaker that sounds like shit.

  • @stephensmith799
    @stephensmith799 Год назад +1

    I have a Japanese D28 copy from the early ‘Seventies. It gets played every day. It’s fantastic … perhaps BECAUSE of its very thin laminated top. Balanced sound with nothing ‘nasal’ about it… a Sagadia 770.
    Oh yes… marginally better with its brass pins.

    • @rfphill
      @rfphill 8 месяцев назад

      I have similar. Ibanez Martin copy from the 70s. I an getting ready to put a zero fret nut on it and change out saddle and bridge pins to tusq. I will be cutting bridge slots as well. I am hoping it will make it a bit more musical and bright.

    • @stephensmith799
      @stephensmith799 8 месяцев назад

      @@rfphill mine has a very chunky wooden bridge piece with a height-adjustable (!) brass saddle which fits a slot. The saddle is raised or lowered by screws at either end. Originally there was a plastic bridge piece slotted into the height adjustable metal bridge piece. Because the intonation was a bit out, I filed the plastic so that it was flush with the metal piece and used ‘eyes’ cut off a previous set of strings to run each new string through. By moving each ‘eye’ a little bit, either towards the neck or back it is possible to get accurate intonation at the 12th fret. Ie, an E sounded as a harmonic at the twelfth is the same as an E fretted at the 12th fret. It’s not perfect but no guitar is truly in tune in all keys.
      Finally I replaced the plastic bridge pins with brass ones.
      A great guitar was made about 15% better!
      I now think it is a D18 copy rather than a D28.

    • @rfphill
      @rfphill 8 месяцев назад

      @@stephensmith799 that actually sounds badass! I will have to look that one up!

    • @BryanClark-gk6ie
      @BryanClark-gk6ie 3 месяца назад +2

      ​@@stephensmith799
      I have a takamine ean-10c cedar top' string through the bridge guitar' I drilled holes beside the strings and put in brass bridge pins... Huge difference in tone' I also tried aluminum bronze strings when I did the mod because I heard they were good for dark sounding guitars.

    • @stephensmith799
      @stephensmith799 3 месяца назад

      @@BryanClark-gk6ie Thanks for your post. It makes good sense.

  • @danielbarbieri8199
    @danielbarbieri8199 7 месяцев назад

    Any part of a guitar is a filter or an enhancer, at a different %.

  • @cromer55
    @cromer55 2 года назад

    Thanks for your video Es muy bueno👍🏼👍🏼

  • @PainkillerDCXVI
    @PainkillerDCXVI Год назад

    Plastic sounds like it has a damping effect, it could be desirable if your guitar is too bright... I like bone the best, brass seems to make things way too bright and I think I just wouldn't use ebony, I don't know I don't like the idea of pins that can expand and contract inside a guitar's bridge.

  • @Jeff-fx5vu
    @Jeff-fx5vu 4 года назад +1

    Ebony and Tusq l liked the best

  • @ikigai47
    @ikigai47 8 месяцев назад

    I just had an order in for both ebony and bone pins. After watching this (mixed with a Taylor master luthier saying it doesn't really matter unless the fit isn't snug) I went back and cancelled the order. Total waste of money. Thank you

  • @lowellirish
    @lowellirish 2 года назад

    I heard the difference from plastic to bone immediately

  • @barryhartzell7468
    @barryhartzell7468 2 года назад

    Nice comparison, thank you TrophyMove! The strumming was a little too harsh
    (all those notes clashing together) for my ears, but I heard all I needed to hear in the single note picking. Much appreciated! Ebony was my pick!

  • @ramspencer5492
    @ramspencer5492 4 месяца назад

    I've tried breast pins and it was terrible in my guitar. They're really heavy.. They might work on some guitars... But it was tongue death for mine

  • @chumdinger_official
    @chumdinger_official 9 месяцев назад

    Plastic sounds just fine