When I was in Austria I found a whole TV channel dedicated to a guy making watches, saying nothing and with no music and 8 camera angles. It was really nice to watch in the evening.
Exactly what I was thinking. I made until 7 minutes and thought to myself "this guy is legit and that's a cool craft but I should watch something else"
What I like about brands such as seiko and orient is that you can purchase a well made, budget watch with its own brand movement. With Swiss watches you tend to have to jump many price brackets to get the same claim. Even some of the so called luxury brands just run decorated ETA movements.
In house movements are great and all, but the ETA 7750 is one of the most reliable and accurate chronograph movements ever created. ETA movement isn't a necessarily bad thing in a luxury watch, they're very high quality. That said, also look at nomos, they offer in-house German movements at super affordable prices.
@@darthgiggity7948 I know what you mean, I liken it to car/engine manufacture. The EV movement is the quartz crisis for cars coming and I feel it will revert back to ICE due to battery issues down the line.
I mean, ETA really mastered the production of great movements. Why should you use different movements if they are working great? Never change a wining team. 😅
@@alfistibrasiliani I can name Japanese movements in a much higher price range. Anything Grand Seiko makes. The Miyota 9015 would also be more comparable to the ETA 2824-2, Seiko's 6R15, 8L35 etc.
@@gmansplit He asked in the same price range. A Grand Seiko movement is more in the same price range as an Omega in-house movement. The Seiko Spring Drive movement is over $1000 for example.
Basically, there is a spring that is wound that will slowly unwind to power the hands on the clock. It unwinds slowly because it is attached to a spinning thingy that can only spin so fast because of air resistance. That is connected to the gears that will spin the 3 hands, those 3 hands have different gear ratios so that they spin at their particular speeds. The real magic is putting all these little things in there stacked on top of each other. The mechanism to wind up the watch is essentially a gear inside of a gear, so that when you rewind it, you dont change the position of the outer gear. It's very simple if you look at an animation of the couple things happening. Extremely tedious to manufacture. I cant imagine what all it takes to make them. Probably have a "how its made" episode out there.
@CYZ Aero I actually found a good video explaining it. The escapement isn't actually like I described. Apparently high end watches use a mechanical escapement, not an air resistance one. I'm just a dumb guy on the internet who shouldn't be trusted I guess. ruclips.net/video/G1XBb7kJJWg/видео.html
@R. Schowiada71 possibly.. higher beat rate means it can be more easily regulated, hacking means time can be set more exactly, and the miyota will be dumped and replaced in a service while the eta may have small parts replaced but you will largely have the same movement, if that makes any difference to you.
Keep in mind while watching this that some of his phrasing is very misleading. For example, when he says "the Japanese movement", he's referring to that specific Miyota caliber. Makes it sound like Japanese movements in general all share the same traits. Even Seiko's cheapest automatic movements wind in both directions. That's not something exclusive to the Swiss.
I believe him saying "Japanese movement" was contextual to the specific watch. Although I can definitely see where one might understand it as the watches' movements and parts are similar, I do not think that is what they were referring to.
I agree. I myself know nothing of watches or watch brands for that matter. So I'm naturally neutral on the whole Swiss versus Japanese movements. So given that, I did feel like he was throwing shade towards anything Japanese made. He made it seem as if all Japanese watches were cheaply made. Of course some basic research could prove otherwise, like the fact that he's comparing two movements that are priced very differently but not everyone is going to take the time to do the searching. Other than that it was a cool teardown. This guy could be a surgeon with hands that steady 🤣
@@ChajisShorts Oh he was definitely biased. He failed to mention that the Quartz crisis happened simply because Seiko released Astron. The first Quartz watch which brought a the whole watch luxury thing to its knees and to the common mass. There are many things Seiko is known for in the enthusiast community but the millennials, does it matter? Half the people are busy with 'finger condoms' apparently.
That really wasn't misleading at all. how can you not extrapolate that he is referring to "THE Japanese movement" as in THE watch that is in the video. You're being needlessly pedantic or you're dumb.
@@thepjup4507 Whenever the japanese are mentioned you get all the weebs absolutely needing to defend them, and with the watches you get the Seiko/Grand Seiko nuts defending them too.
The best thing I’ve watched on RUclips for a very long time. I love my small watch collection,and you have given me a better understanding of their beating hearts !
@@vast634 not really. the SII 7s26 is one of the most reliable watch movements ever made and it uses the magic lever system. I'd say it works pretty well even if not super efficient
Oh no! Who TF would remove the pallet fork bridge with power still on the watch. That is just what I was thinking... what a dummy .... uhh.. right guys??!
I'd say that the most iconic Japanese movement out there (simply by volume) is the Seiko NH35A. That's a far more refined movement than the Miyota 8000-series.
@@Illsamustache You could be right. I honestly don't know. All I know is that I have a ten year-old Invicta Grand Diver that has NEVER needed any servicing whatsoever and works perfectly even today. It of course has an NH35A.
@@dmac1259 you're ignoring the fact an astonishingly affordable movement has held up for a decade without servicing. thats an amazing achievement for the people that made it, thats the point hes trying to make. its a 100ish dollar watch and hes gotten a decade with it. cant really compare this to a car.
If you do another one of these, use movements of similar price range. You compared an economical Japanese movement to a high-end Swiss. Next time, make sure they’re in the same price bracket. That would make this a much more credible video.
Japan usually focus more on quality and reliability.. They skip the decorations.. But there are also high end japanese movement which are greatly decorated
The point of this video wasn't to say which of the two is better, it was just to show two different movements..... Not everything has to be a competition.
Loved every second of it. Never would have thought the pieces in a watch were so tiny and there are way more pieces than just cogs, 3 arms and a spring! And it's nice to know jewels have more uses than just looking pretty. Keep it up with the breaking downs
Not trying to be pedantic, just want to enlighten you; the jewels they use in watch making are not the same jewels people would stick in a ring or a bracelet. They're often synthetic and mostly artificially colored to look red like rubies (that's why some manufacturers will list the amount of 'rubies' instead of 'jewels'). Their purpose is to act as a bearing, the material is incredibly hard (one hardness level below diamond) and they're oiled, so when the axle of one of the cogs rotates against it, it won't wear out as much.
@@GulliNL Yeah, learned about that these past 4 years. Most synthetic rubies are purple/lavender though, and learned about crystalline structures of metals that are even harder than diamonds. By the way, you should look into the uses of synthetic sapphires as long-life bearings - or types of quartz. Thanks for taking the time to educate, tho. That info would be gold for people that didn't know ^_^
If the issue is not sports and world-wide joy, but politics, then the Swiss flag is kept square, like outside the U.N. headquarters in New York and Geneva. Nepal and Switzerland are the only countries within the United Nations not showing the standard rectangular 2:3 flag but the original proportions.
With all the watchmaking money, you sure can afford the rest of the flag. BTW, what is it with the holes in the cheese, is it related? do you need some bank credit?
@@obviousgreyman None, if you really want a good watch with a decent movements, start at $300 or above. Baltic, Seiko, Hamilton, Orient and Tissot are the best brands I can think of.
I'm a huge fan of Seiko chronographs.... I collect 6139 calibres, these were incredibly good value back in their day. Now wearing a Sport 5, and cannot overstate the value for money of these mechanical movements.... Swiss cannot touch these for price to quality ratio. BTW, your watchmaker should really not be breathing on the open movements ...
He cares about not getting finger oils on the components but he touched nearly every piece with his index finger with a big hole ripped in the latex protector.
It's a demonstration, can you not complain and just appreciate what you witnessed? I'm sure he does a lot more stuff to such watches that he can't show us and we won't even comprehend. That was just the disassembly of 2 brand new watches, imagine repairing a broken and dirty old watch... Can't be perfect in everything, at least he is in what actually matters.
@@em0_tion Nobody is allowed to complain or comment on the broken finger condoms, got it. ATinyWaffle needs to relax, he's freaking out over nothing, right.
He isn't necessarily wrong, the average consumer would likely recognise Japan for their culture, pop culture, cars, etc etc before watch making, you kinda gotta be a watch guy to know about it
13:23 - While it's true that the jewels are synthetic corundum, it is still accurate to call them rubies, because rubies _are_ corundum. So are sapphires. The only difference is the impurities that give the corundum its color. (in its pure form it's clear, which is why it can be used for watch faces as well.) Also, they aren't just used for friction reduction, they're also used for _wear_ reduction. The ratchet engages and disengages 250,000 times PER DAY, and watches are generally used for DECADES. Metal parts would wear-out in a few months at best in that scenario.
The old Timex watches used Armalloy metal bearings, no jewels at all. But by then people believed the number of jewels in a watch was an indication of quality, so the jewels are still there to justify the high price.
Autopsy of a Swiss Watch vs. Japanese Watch, and both served me very well for years. A Seiko 5 SNK789 vs. a Tissot Automatic. Both bought in Dubai, both loyal serving YEARS later. Pick your taste. My wife laid claim to the Seiko, and I busted the Tissot on an Engineering Job, both breathlessly amazing engineered watches... appreciate the workmanship of both, pick your heart, choose, and you can’t go wrong. A Walmart Timex in quartz movement is actually more dependable- these are for gentleman and ladies who appreciate complications and engineering, an art as well as a science. A Masterpiece on your arm, no matter the cost. Both are mentally overwhelming at the price. Enjoy your purchase, and the sweat, labor, and meticulous machining and hand design that went into making a modern marvel, both will serve you well, and has my total respect, admiration, and awe!
Mechanical watches came back because modern computer-based production techniques made it possible to produce highly accurate parts for a resonable price. Up to the 70s, every cogwheel had to be either made by hand or by automatic production techniques with more specification tolerance resulting in less accurate watches.
Both are outstanding, could maybe be a better comparison but it's a fun video. I love the Japanese movements even more than Swiss, for example Grand Seiko's in-house movements like the Hi-beat Cal. 9SA5
First quartz watch- Seiko First Digital watch - Casio First Spring drive movement - Grand Seiko First Kinetic movement - Seiko First solar watch- Seiko First Artificial Light Powered watch- Citizen ( Ecodrive) And they are saying Japan isn't known for watchmaking
@@syedmohdfasihnaqvi155 Yes everyone who is into watches can recognise this but your average person on the street wouldn't. Stop being pretentious you bunch of snobs
This is by far one of the best show when addressing watches: the inside works is the very heart of it. (Outstanding PR ) A must see for every: Swiss watch buyer
I took everything apart as a child. I even broke a car door once. And now I'm a mechanical engineer and I take things apart, fix them, rebuild them or design replacements and get payed for it. I feel that kind of curiosity should be encouraged.
+Russ Olson They were geniuses and made a lot by hand. Let's say 200 years ago they already had machines to put up some mass production, but earlier they filed the dented wheels all by hand. That's why watches were very expensives. I have a friend that is almost crazy and he is able to reproduce any part by hand or with a simple machine. And oh my God!, He can spend more than a day on a wheel!
This was actually the second episode in our series, [De]constructed. Here's the first, about a 1974 Harley Shovelhead: ruclips.net/video/W_9nPQFZNBM/видео.html . Thanks for watching -- and commenting!
This video should have added more commentary and analysis on the differences between the watches and how they tie in with the price difference. For example, how do the Swiss and Japanese come up with different solutions to the same problem and what are the pros and cons? Then, we could actually learn something useful.
I took apart a watch once to fix a movement, and was so confused by all of the little pieces I couldn't put it back together. This is really a skilled trade.
I enjoy watching videos of watches getting serviced, but it can get a little tedious. Kudos to this guy for keep me on the edge of my seat the whole time
For me is interesting part is the level of precision manufacturing on those small pieces he kept pulling out. And also I'm wondering if those pieces are assembled by a watchmaker by hand or is it like a factory process where all of this is automated.
Fascinating video! I’ve been doing a lot of research about watches for over a year now, including a lot of time looking at simulations of how a mechanical movement works. I understand this pretty well by now, but watching you disassemble two different very well known movements has just been amazing. I really appreciate your doing this and explaining it so clearly. I cannot imagine anyone having the skills to handle these microscopic parts, being someone with all the eye hand coordination of a rhinoceros! 😩 thanks very much for this great information.👍
WOW!!!! What a video!!! I sat here completely captivated! I love the way you edit the two different views, and narrate with clear concise language... Thank you so much, for giving us a look, into the secret magical mystery world, of watchmaking! Utterly fascinating! You display such a vast amount of knowledge... and, at what appears to be such a young age! How did you become so knowledgeable, so early on? You have all my respect and admiration young man!!! My hat is off to you!
9:20 VERY important step skipped here: Release all of the mainspring tension before removing any of the gear train bridges. Preferably, remove the pallet bridge first (after releasing mainspring tension) to make sure absolutely no energy is left in the mainspring.
Why is the japanese movement cheaper than the swiss one if the swiss one uses fewer parts? Is it because of the additional automatic function of the swiss one?
@@ClickClack_Bam I’m Italian / Irish, born in Dublin, Ireland, actually been there numerous times to see my family, I know the exact spot on Irish soil I was born.
Loved the part at 23:30, especially the "people will wear something that is a reflection of themselves, is how they express themselves, by the watches they choose
Such mechanism does exactly the same and less accurately than a 1mm chip with a tiny quartz crystal, it's amazing how much we have progressed, watchmaking is an acient art in a way.
This is why like browsing through RUclips. I would never think of looking for this type of video, but I watched it right through and learned some things about mechanical watches.
Amazing video!! Thank you so much. Beautifully done, very interesting, and professional. I can see that you are an artist. The attention to detail in the production of the video is superb.
every single intricate bit was handmade to perfection. not to mention the tools too. this craft doesn't get the recognition it deserves.. creating time is the closest thing we have to creating life 👌🏼
Hamilton is still around though, they just moved to Switzerland and are part of the Swatch group. It's one of my favorite brands, I have 3 of them and they're great!
I would put ANY Seiko in similar Price Range of Swiss Watches as just good if not better.Seiko Baby monster to Seiko 5 To Grand Master are all Amazing watches.
Very nicely paced disassembly and commentary. The ETA seems like a better movement than the Miyota but the difference in price seems disproportionate. The lack of a hacking mechanism and the use of a plastic gear in the Miyota would move most discerning buyers towards the Swiss movement. Also, the ETA 2824 has 4 (or 5?) different accuracy grades (timing stability in multiple positions). How would you rate the two movements in terms of reliability, maintainability, and repairability?
This is a keeper. The best explanation. Note I am now learning this a hobby. After working as a doctor for 37 years , I needed a hobby . Something better than model cars or airplanes. Thank you my friend. You are very good
yeah i guess i can't over say what others are already saying... Japanese watching making is one of the pinnacles of watching making. quality for quality, there is nothing on earth that can outdo a Grand Seiko. this guy discredits himself by saying japan aint known for watch making.
Not really, the average consumer is more likely to recognise Japan for their culture/pop culture/cars/ etc etc, you kinda gotta be a watch guy to know about japansa watch making prestige
When I was in Austria I found a whole TV channel dedicated to a guy making watches, saying nothing and with no music and 8 camera angles. It was really nice to watch in the evening.
I would subscribe SO FAST to that channel!
Austrians are weirdos confirmed.
@@goku445 If they don't release that pent up autism, bad things happen.
what was the name of the channel?
I wonder how many unit can they make a week or a month, 🤔
I felt a very weird combination of fascination and boredom while watching this
this is on point
Interesting enough to watch it, but boring enough to jump forward once in a while to finally see a result :)
Is that the definition of "contentment?"
Exactly what I was thinking. I made until 7 minutes and thought to myself "this guy is legit and that's a cool craft but I should watch something else"
I for one, was whelmed
What I like about brands such as seiko and orient is that you can purchase a well made, budget watch with its own brand movement. With Swiss watches you tend to have to jump many price brackets to get the same claim. Even some of the so called luxury brands just run decorated ETA movements.
In house movements are great and all, but the ETA 7750 is one of the most reliable and accurate chronograph movements ever created. ETA movement isn't a necessarily bad thing in a luxury watch, they're very high quality. That said, also look at nomos, they offer in-house German movements at super affordable prices.
@@kvell24 it isn't though. And using ETA too much is a sign of laziness. Aren't they capable of innovation? Lol
@@kvell24 nomos is super affordable? Since when.
@@darthgiggity7948 I know what you mean, I liken it to car/engine manufacture. The EV movement is the quartz crisis for cars coming and I feel it will revert back to ICE due to battery issues down the line.
I mean, ETA really mastered the production of great movements. Why should you use different movements if they are working great?
Never change a wining team. 😅
Comparing a ~$250,- ETA movement to a ~$75,- Miyota seems unfair when you never mention the price difference of the movements themselves.
ok, can you name a japanese movement in the same price range? give us an exemple
alfistibrasiliani what about the miyota 9015? its considered better than the eta, still cheaper.
@@alfistibrasiliani I can name Japanese movements in a much higher price range. Anything Grand Seiko makes. The Miyota 9015 would also be more comparable to the ETA 2824-2, Seiko's 6R15, 8L35 etc.
I have seen that Miyota for a lot cheaper than $75.
@@gmansplit He asked in the same price range. A Grand Seiko movement is more in the same price range as an Omega in-house movement. The Seiko Spring Drive movement is over $1000 for example.
Can you imagine if your cat jumped on the table and knocked that entire parts tray to the floor.
i imagine you jump, will be flying side kick landed in second :P
@@abyss3741 I'd be pouring gravy on that pussycat.
What cat??
Cat would subsequently be jumped out of the window on the top floor.
Literally my first thought lol
‘Hmm I understand how it all works now’
- No-one
@Spiritpoweredinternet I still don't understand. lol Well, except in very general terms.
Spiritpoweredinternet "watch"
Basically, there is a spring that is wound that will slowly unwind to power the hands on the clock. It unwinds slowly because it is attached to a spinning thingy that can only spin so fast because of air resistance. That is connected to the gears that will spin the 3 hands, those 3 hands have different gear ratios so that they spin at their particular speeds. The real magic is putting all these little things in there stacked on top of each other. The mechanism to wind up the watch is essentially a gear inside of a gear, so that when you rewind it, you dont change the position of the outer gear. It's very simple if you look at an animation of the couple things happening. Extremely tedious to manufacture. I cant imagine what all it takes to make them. Probably have a "how its made" episode out there.
Haha I just woke everyone up, I think. Never laughed that loud at a comment - caught me off guard!
@CYZ Aero I actually found a good video explaining it. The escapement isn't actually like I described. Apparently high end watches use a mechanical escapement, not an air resistance one. I'm just a dumb guy on the internet who shouldn't be trusted I guess.
ruclips.net/video/G1XBb7kJJWg/видео.html
Grand Seiko vs Rolex comparison would be interesting.
I actually wear my SARB035 (6R15D) more than GMT Master. Because it just looks simpler and there's a love on its white dial.
yeahh seiko gang
ruclips.net/video/rwA_gAHcmLs/видео.html There you go
@@MonkeyChocolate the only reason you said that was to tell us that you own such a watch
@@Merthalophor Surely not, he must have thought this information would enrich our lives 😂
Comparing a $50 Miyota movement with a $250 eta
@R. Schowiada71 possibly.. higher beat rate means it can be more easily regulated, hacking means time can be set more exactly, and the miyota will be dumped and replaced in a service while the eta may have small parts replaced but you will largely have the same movement, if that makes any difference to you.
Keep in mind while watching this that some of his phrasing is very misleading. For example, when he says "the Japanese movement", he's referring to that specific Miyota caliber. Makes it sound like Japanese movements in general all share the same traits. Even Seiko's cheapest automatic movements wind in both directions. That's not something exclusive to the Swiss.
I believe him saying "Japanese movement" was contextual to the specific watch. Although I can definitely see where one might understand it as the watches' movements and parts are similar, I do not think that is what they were referring to.
I agree. I myself know nothing of watches or watch brands for that matter. So I'm naturally neutral on the whole Swiss versus Japanese movements. So given that, I did feel like he was throwing shade towards anything Japanese made. He made it seem as if all Japanese watches were cheaply made. Of course some basic research could prove otherwise, like the fact that he's comparing two movements that are priced very differently but not everyone is going to take the time to do the searching. Other than that it was a cool teardown. This guy could be a surgeon with hands that steady 🤣
@@ChajisShorts Oh he was definitely biased. He failed to mention that the Quartz crisis happened simply because Seiko released Astron. The first Quartz watch which brought a the whole watch luxury thing to its knees and to the common mass. There are many things Seiko is known for in the enthusiast community but the millennials, does it matter? Half the people are busy with 'finger condoms' apparently.
That really wasn't misleading at all. how can you not extrapolate that he is referring to "THE Japanese movement" as in THE watch that is in the video. You're being needlessly pedantic or you're dumb.
@@thepjup4507 Whenever the japanese are mentioned you get all the weebs absolutely needing to defend them, and with the watches you get the Seiko/Grand Seiko nuts defending them too.
I can imagine accidentally inhaling one of those parts.
Odd they didn't compare more... equitable movements. a Miyota 9015 would be a much better comparison to the 2824 in both price and quality
Japanese watches are based after European designs. It wouldn't make sense to compare the two.
How about the 6R15
Yes it does, they are different enough and many of the Swiss designs are old as the hills and some Japan ones are recent past.
You yankee piece of sh¡t
Michal Nazareth you’re right. I should have specified mechanical watch.
WIRED, you need James May to do this.
toyotaprius79 he’s it a watchmaker
"Oh bollocks"
Half the video would be him explaining the difference between Philips Headed and Japanese Industrial Standard screws.
after organizing them by size @@Opus_Fluke
he does seem to collect watches but he'd be useless at this
This is really cool, but... finger condoms
My thoughts exactly
I came...here for this
Golden Age
Those finger cots are also used in office environments for repeated page turning to grab the paper and avoid paper cuts.
One of the finger condoms has a hole in it too. That watch might get pregnant.
Fido Montoya - They’re also used by bus conductors who dispense paper tickets.
The best thing I’ve watched on RUclips for a very long time. I love my small watch collection,and you have given me a better understanding of their beating hearts !
17:00 seiko's magic lever brings bi directional winding to watches under $100
In practice it works poor compared to the gear solution in the ETA.
@@vast634 not really. the SII 7s26 is one of the most reliable watch movements ever made and it uses the magic lever system.
I'd say it works pretty well even if not super efficient
funny how his hat steals all the light he needs ^^
God bless you
Opposite of a good watch, lets form get in the way of function.
But m'lady
Reflected light?
He wore it for the camera. Normally people can't see his head balding.
20:20 Did you just remove the pallet fork bridge with power still on the watch? You naughty boy.
Gabe Johnston just a smidge, but yeah...totally naughty
Oh no! Who TF would remove the pallet fork bridge with power still on the watch. That is just what I was thinking... what a dummy .... uhh.. right guys??!
Wow anyone should know thats a no-no.
Blasphemy
Good video. I just wish he used comparable Japanese and Swiss movements. These movements are not comparable at all.
Yes they are. Both entry level auto with date.
One runs at 21600 bph while the other runs at 28800 bph. It would have been nice to see him use the Miyota 9015 instead.
He's comparing two of the same carpenter watches; that 9015 movement isn't available in this series
@@lolcat23 The ETA 2824 is literally three times more expensive with more advanced functions
I'd say that the most iconic Japanese movement out there (simply by volume) is the Seiko NH35A. That's a far more refined movement than the Miyota 8000-series.
For current production, yes. But I’m pretty sure that there have been more 7S26/36 movements made overall.
@@Illsamustache You could be right. I honestly don't know. All I know is that I have a ten year-old Invicta Grand Diver that has NEVER needed any servicing whatsoever and works perfectly even today. It of course has an NH35A.
@@AvroBellow thats like saying "i havent changed my oil in 25,000 miles and my car is still running!". your watch needs to be serviced.
@@dmac1259 you're ignoring the fact an astonishingly affordable movement has held up for a decade without servicing. thats an amazing achievement for the people that made it, thats the point hes trying to make. its a 100ish dollar watch and hes gotten a decade with it. cant really compare this to a car.
@@dmac1259 wow! What an astonishing and infallible analogy!
If you do another one of these, use movements of similar price range. You compared an economical Japanese movement to a high-end Swiss.
Next time, make sure they’re in the same price bracket. That would make this a much more credible video.
@DiscoFalcon Not really a high end swiss movement.
Japan usually focus more on quality and reliability.. They skip the decorations.. But there are also high end japanese movement which are greatly decorated
The point of this video wasn't to say which of the two is better, it was just to show two different movements..... Not everything has to be a competition.
The problem with your request, is that the japanese would make something much better for much cheaper.
@@matthewmeredith3138 No, but it usually is - human nature.
Now put them back together.
thats what a watchmaker does
E. Fine
That’s his job.
#Constructed
I would end with lot of leftover screws after re assembling it
@@kokboru5502 then that's what he should have in the first place.
Loved every second of it. Never would have thought the pieces in a watch were so tiny and there are way more pieces than just cogs, 3 arms and a spring! And it's nice to know jewels have more uses than just looking pretty. Keep it up with the breaking downs
Not trying to be pedantic, just want to enlighten you; the jewels they use in watch making are not the same jewels people would stick in a ring or a bracelet. They're often synthetic and mostly artificially colored to look red like rubies (that's why some manufacturers will list the amount of 'rubies' instead of 'jewels'). Their purpose is to act as a bearing, the material is incredibly hard (one hardness level below diamond) and they're oiled, so when the axle of one of the cogs rotates against it, it won't wear out as much.
@@GulliNL Yeah, learned about that these past 4 years. Most synthetic rubies are purple/lavender though, and learned about crystalline structures of metals that are even harder than diamonds. By the way, you should look into the uses of synthetic sapphires as long-life bearings - or types of quartz. Thanks for taking the time to educate, tho. That info would be gold for people that didn't know ^_^
the swiss flag is square. kind regards, a swiss guy
If the issue is not sports and world-wide joy, but politics, then the Swiss flag is kept square, like outside the U.N. headquarters in New York and Geneva. Nepal and Switzerland are the only countries within the United Nations not showing the standard rectangular 2:3 flag but the original proportions.
@@tipsysmichigander6483 Don't call it a flag then?
@@tipsysmichigander6483 There are plenty of flags that aren't 2:3.
@@georgejpg Yes, there are, I did not suggest there were not any.
With all the watchmaking money, you sure can afford the rest of the flag. BTW, what is it with the holes in the cheese, is it related? do you need some bank credit?
Got "The carpenter watch with the swiss movement is $825 and the japanese movement retails for $595". Everything else is lost on me.
This makes me want a mechanical watch now just because of the incredible intricacies of them. I knew they were complicated but wow that is insane.
Prices only start at like 100 bucks
@@thomasdrysdale4240 what are some good brands that are around that price?
@@obviousgreyman None, if you really want a good watch with a decent movements, start at $300 or above. Baltic, Seiko, Hamilton, Orient and Tissot are the best brands I can think of.
@@hathaway.1166 that’s what I thought I was being a bit of a smartass with that guy I thought he’d at least have a recommendation.
@@obviousgreyman 😅
I'm a huge fan of Seiko chronographs.... I collect 6139 calibres, these were incredibly good value back in their day. Now wearing a Sport 5, and cannot overstate the value for money of these mechanical movements.... Swiss cannot touch these for price to quality ratio. BTW, your watchmaker should really not be breathing on the open movements ...
Which 6139s do you have? I had my eyes on them for a while but the prices are skyrocketing
@@luchadorito the best value in 6139 are the yellow dials i got one for 550 the silver dials (more rare) are shootin over 1000 dollars now
@@nocturnalmayhem0 Really? In my experience the cheap ones tend to be the 6139-6015s but that might be just my region
I'm just starting to collect 6139's. I'm planning on having ago at a service on one of the beaters in a week or two.
Have you ever had one apart to understand their "value for money"?
Garish designs, hugely overpriced vintage market catering to Hodinkee Hipsters.
I loved this so much. The ingenuity and precision of the engineering is inspiring, and Ryan Jewell is as articulate as he is skilled. Bravo!
He cares about not getting finger oils on the components but he touched nearly every piece with his index finger with a big hole ripped in the latex protector.
It's a demonstration, can you not complain and just appreciate what you witnessed? I'm sure he does a lot more stuff to such watches that he can't show us and we won't even comprehend. That was just the disassembly of 2 brand new watches, imagine repairing a broken and dirty old watch... Can't be perfect in everything, at least he is in what actually matters.
@@em0_tion Nobody is allowed to complain or comment on the broken finger condoms, got it. ATinyWaffle needs to relax, he's freaking out over nothing, right.
finger condoms*
@@WESTSIDEBBB Get lost with that stupid sarcasm snowflake.
It's a legitimate point.
Not to mention only has them on the one hand, but at times uses his other hand to manipulate something.
Wow. Just speechless at the production value and at how well done and helpful this is. Thank you!!!
This guy has an excellent quality for narration and explanation. Because of this video my enthusiasm for watches in general has increased ten fold.
"While Japan isn't necessarily known for its watchmaking" You are the frog in the well that knows nothing of the great ocean. lol
He isn't necessarily wrong, the average consumer would likely recognise Japan for their culture, pop culture, cars, etc etc before watch making, you kinda gotta be a watch guy to know about it
Aussie Viking II everyone knows what seiko is
Ruminate yeah but the swiss are world famous for luxury mechanicals. That was his point
@@Ruminatee Didn't know it was japanese. Just assumed it was a fancy name.
OK nerd
13:23 - While it's true that the jewels are synthetic corundum, it is still accurate to call them rubies, because rubies _are_ corundum. So are sapphires. The only difference is the impurities that give the corundum its color. (in its pure form it's clear, which is why it can be used for watch faces as well.) Also, they aren't just used for friction reduction, they're also used for _wear_ reduction. The ratchet engages and disengages 250,000 times PER DAY, and watches are generally used for DECADES. Metal parts would wear-out in a few months at best in that scenario.
The old Timex watches used Armalloy metal bearings, no jewels at all. But by then people believed the number of jewels in a watch was an indication of quality, so the jewels are still there to justify the high price.
@@benjaminbarrera214yep. The seller sets the value and the buyer proves it true.
GS springdrive is objectively the best movement in existence at the moment
Autopsy of a Swiss Watch vs. Japanese Watch, and both served me very well for years. A Seiko 5 SNK789 vs. a Tissot Automatic. Both bought in Dubai, both loyal serving YEARS later. Pick your taste. My wife laid claim to the Seiko, and I busted the Tissot on an Engineering Job, both breathlessly amazing engineered watches... appreciate the workmanship of both, pick your heart, choose, and you can’t go wrong. A Walmart Timex in quartz movement is actually more dependable- these are for gentleman and ladies who appreciate complications and engineering, an art as well as a science. A Masterpiece on your arm, no matter the cost. Both are mentally overwhelming at the price.
Enjoy your purchase, and the sweat, labor, and meticulous machining and hand design that went into making a modern marvel, both will serve you well, and has my total respect, admiration, and awe!
Mechanical watches came back because modern computer-based production techniques made it possible to produce highly accurate parts for a resonable price. Up to the 70s, every cogwheel had to be either made by hand or by automatic production techniques with more specification tolerance resulting in less accurate watches.
This is awesome!
Both are outstanding, could maybe be a better comparison but it's a fun video. I love the Japanese movements even more than Swiss, for example Grand Seiko's in-house movements like the Hi-beat Cal. 9SA5
"while Japan isn't necessarily known for its watchmaking"
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First Kinetic movement - Seiko
First solar watch- Seiko
First Artificial Light Powered watch- Citizen ( Ecodrive)
And they are saying Japan isn't known for watchmaking
@@syedmohdfasihnaqvi155 Yes everyone who is into watches can recognise this but your average person on the street wouldn't. Stop being pretentious you bunch of snobs
@@UnburnableCow they are not snobs, they were just pointing out and correcting an obviously false statement.
Very cool! Love the fact that he didn’t try and talk while working and saved the commentary for the voiceover.
This is by far one of the best show when addressing watches: the inside works is the very heart of it. (Outstanding PR ) A must see for every: Swiss watch buyer
Brilliant!! Please continue with this series !! They are awesome! I really enjoyed the two episodes so far!
I love this. My brother got into trouble for 'deconstructing' a watch. He was 5 at the time. I sent this right off to him.
I took everything apart as a child. I even broke a car door once. And now I'm a mechanical engineer and I take things apart, fix them, rebuild them or design replacements and get payed for it. I feel that kind of curiosity should be encouraged.
The incredible level of engineering involved in the wrist watch. Amazing.
My Brain at 2AM: Why don't we watch someone deconstruct a watch
Me: Perfect!!
This is incredible! Update more amazing contents in this series please!
Very entertaining, having worked in manufacturing I would find all the tooling and custom machines that made all those parts extremely interesting
I think that would be the most interesting part.
+Russ Olson They were geniuses and made a lot by hand. Let's say 200 years ago they already had machines to put up some mass production, but earlier they filed the dented wheels all by hand. That's why watches were very expensives. I have a friend that is almost crazy and he is able to reproduce any part by hand or with a simple machine. And oh my God!, He can spend more than a day on a wheel!
This was really cool please do more episodes!!
This was actually the second episode in our series, [De]constructed. Here's the first, about a 1974 Harley Shovelhead: ruclips.net/video/W_9nPQFZNBM/видео.html . Thanks for watching -- and commenting!
We need a surgeon deconstructing a living patient.
Of course, Seiko automatics wind in both directions. I think most Miyota autos are only unidirectional.
Thank you for naming the parts, and showing the differences in construction. Fascinating !
“The acids in your skin permanently etch into the plating and finish”
Me: sees hole in finger cot...
Loving this new series! 😍 Please make a lot more deconstructed videos 😍
This video should have added more commentary and analysis on the differences between the watches and how they tie in with the price difference. For example, how do the Swiss and Japanese come up with different solutions to the same problem and what are the pros and cons? Then, we could actually learn something useful.
Fascinating. I would like to see the video of him putting them all back together.
We need more of these!
It's like the most intense game of Operation ever, watching him pull those little parts out with tweezers.
I read too quickly and thought the title said "Watchmaker Breaks Down Swiss Cheese".
Oh well, this is interesting too.
I honestly finna watch a video with a title like that
We are watching this, let's be honest, we would watch that too
Hamilton still makes watches, but in Switzerland. I have one and I love it!!! Great brand.
6:41 " It's a yoke!!!" - Fernando Alonso
Adam Song A YOKE!!!
GP2 engine. GP2.
This is the first chickEn,a bit of a long chickEn
what an idiot. hulkenburg was right.
I took apart a watch once to fix a movement, and was so confused by all of the little pieces I couldn't put it back together. This is really a skilled trade.
I enjoy watching videos of watches getting serviced, but it can get a little tedious. Kudos to this guy for keep me on the edge of my seat the whole time
For me is interesting part is the level of precision manufacturing on those small pieces he kept pulling out. And also I'm wondering if those pieces are assembled by a watchmaker by hand or is it like a factory process where all of this is automated.
To answer your 4 year old comment. By hand 😂
Good education.. I liked it because I am a mechanical watch lover !!!! I love both Swiss and Japan
Fascinating video! I’ve been doing a lot of research about watches for over a year now, including a lot of time looking at simulations of how a mechanical movement works. I understand this pretty well by now, but watching you disassemble two different very well known movements has just been amazing. I really appreciate your doing this and explaining it so clearly. I cannot imagine anyone having the skills to handle these microscopic parts, being someone with all the eye hand coordination of a rhinoceros! 😩 thanks very much for this great information.👍
WOW!!!!
What a video!!!
I sat here completely captivated!
I love the way you edit the two different views, and narrate with clear concise language...
Thank you so much, for giving us a look, into the secret magical mystery world, of watchmaking!
Utterly fascinating!
You display such a vast amount of knowledge... and, at what appears to be such a young age!
How did you become so knowledgeable, so early on?
You have all my respect and admiration young man!!!
My hat is off to you!
I’m impressed by this type of dedication to details … small details.
Thanks for sharing.
9:20 VERY important step skipped here: Release all of the mainspring tension before removing any of the gear train bridges. Preferably, remove the pallet bridge first (after releasing mainspring tension) to make sure absolutely no energy is left in the mainspring.
Why is the japanese movement cheaper than the swiss one if the swiss one uses fewer parts? Is it because of the additional automatic function of the swiss one?
They are both automatic.
Swiss Watches are generally more expensive.
Swiss watches are considered to be the best quality of craftsmanship you can have for watches
The price of a swiss engineer is higher than a japanese one, and in the swiss watch there's absolutely no plastic.
The Swiss one is just much better quality, that shouldn’t be a surprise.
as you might see in the video some japanese components are made of plastic and some components are not as efficient as swiss (reverse rotary).
Finally, a condom in my size.
Torres is not an Irish name ;)
@@TheSchmed I'm Scots-Irish. I'm 6'4 & your girl would definitely be guessing I'm 10+ inches.
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@@ClickClack_Bam I’m Italian / Irish, born in Dublin, Ireland, actually been there numerous times to see my family, I know the exact spot on Irish soil I was born.
This is one of the best videos of its kind on YT..
Loved the part at 23:30, especially the "people will wear something that is a reflection of themselves, is how they express themselves, by the watches they choose
24:09 That watch is gonna be prego
Or is it the finger that gets preggo? Dun dun dun!
Such mechanism does exactly the same and less accurately than a 1mm chip with a tiny quartz crystal, it's amazing how much we have progressed, watchmaking is an acient art in a way.
Mechanical watches are still better
@@notaspy_3604 no they are not. A quartz watch is always more accurate
FYI: Music at the start is Sunset Drive by Future Joust.
You're the real MVP.
thanks
This is why like browsing through RUclips. I would never think of looking for this type of video, but
I watched it right through and learned some things about mechanical watches.
Amazing video!! Thank you so much. Beautifully done, very interesting, and professional. I can see that you are an artist. The attention to detail in the production of the video is superb.
What kind of watch is he wearing?
Reusing busted finger condoms is a big nono.
Might get that watch pregnant
@@MM-vs2et forget pregnant, he might get that watch STDs. Who knows how many chinese knock off watches this guy touches before..
Will they be sinosuisse or suissesino? Definitely a litter of 7.25 ligne movements on their way. Labor and delivery will be on time, for sure.
every single intricate bit was handmade to perfection. not to mention the tools too.
this craft doesn't get the recognition it deserves.. creating time is the closest thing we have to creating life 👌🏼
Hamilton is still around though, they just moved to Switzerland and are part of the Swatch group. It's one of my favorite brands, I have 3 of them and they're great!
It’s really amazing how small all this stuff is and so precise
For the next episode I want "a Boeing 737 deconstructed". I don't care if it's only CAD drawings or be 40 hour long video.
Including the jet engines? blade by blade ? That will take more than 40 hours!
Compare it grade to grade... The Miyota is a bottom of the barrel entry level movement. Compare similar grades: compare a Miyota 90xx or a Seiko 6rxx.
I would put ANY Seiko in similar Price Range of Swiss Watches as just good if not better.Seiko Baby monster to Seiko 5 To Grand Master are all Amazing watches.
On the eta 2824 movement what is that ring called between the dial and the movement at 3:30 ??? - Thanks
Is the Swiss Lever Escapement self starting, even after impact? Does the Hack stop the balance wheel when wound?
There is no freaking way you can assemble that back! No way!
im a watchmaker and believe me, if you do that every day it´s easy.
These watches are still gonna be telling time long after we’re dead that’s why I find them amazing
...what?! no. They wont. They have to be wound every 2 days. Once we are dead, they will die soon after.
@@bermchasin obviously new owners will wind them
Very nicely paced disassembly and commentary. The ETA seems like a better movement than the Miyota but the difference in price seems disproportionate. The lack of a hacking mechanism and the use of a plastic gear in the Miyota would move most discerning buyers towards the Swiss movement. Also, the ETA 2824 has 4 (or 5?) different accuracy grades (timing stability in multiple positions). How would you rate the two movements in terms of reliability, maintainability, and repairability?
Yeah, he definitely made the swiss movement look better by choosing a lower tier japanese movement to compare it to.
This is a keeper. The best explanation. Note I am now learning this a hobby. After working as a doctor for 37 years , I needed a hobby . Something better than model cars or airplanes. Thank you my friend. You are very good
The guy is genuinely happy while working on the watch.
When you drop that one screw on the floor and have to look for it.
I have missed the point of this video
to let you know finger condoms exist
Thank you, Ryan. You crammed hundreds hours of your training into 30 minutes. General commentary on watch history etc., appreciated too.
You have a pleasant, unassuming way of narrating. I stayed to the end of the vid to enjoy that.
I love watches ...great description of internal parts. Thanks.
At 12:23 he leaves a fingerprint on the barrel cap.
What you call "japanese" movement is probably made in Mexico. Where the "Swiss" movement is made, no one knows.
yeah i guess i can't over say what others are already saying... Japanese watching making is one of the pinnacles of watching making. quality for quality, there is nothing on earth that can outdo a Grand Seiko. this guy discredits himself by saying japan aint known for watch making.
Not really, the average consumer is more likely to recognise Japan for their culture/pop culture/cars/ etc etc, you kinda gotta be a watch guy to know about japansa watch making prestige
Same thing goes for Whisky making as well.
Amazing video, I knew there was a lot that goes into these watches but I never truly knew until watching this video.
Very good video. Do you make any parts?