5:01 Nic maybe pin this comment. I have to add you need a special cable that connects to the NUP port on the LCD2-80 to program it with verifire tools.
To be honest, Nic. If I were a fire alarm tech, I honestly would try to setup ACS wtih LCD2-80 only if it was mounted side by side with a ACM-24AT. Otherwise I would just use the terminal protocol. Now that's just me. I honestly would do that to save on running more wires.
Just make a separate, quick video (maybe a short), to explain why you have a commercial fire alarm system in your house, then put up a card to it for any video like this, and all you have to do is say something like "I get the question all the time, and there are plenty of good reasons why I have a commercial fire alarm system in my house. I'm not gonna go into it here, but you can click on the card up there if you're curious what they are."
Actually eventually whats considered commercial now days will eventually be required in homes in both Canada and the US as the classic 10$ smoke alarm is increasingly not cutting it anymore. For instance in my house we have both smoke detectors and heat detectors in appropriate places like the attic due to the various environmental conditions heck the combo traditional and photoelectric smoke alarms should be the start level fire protection which won't happen until a major tragedy happens sadly.
@@KILLKING110 I don't think commercial system in the form of how they are currently will ever end up in residential applications due to the complexity and maintenance required. however the adoption of automatic sprinkler systems will become more common for sure. and possibly more advanced smoke alarm requirements for new construction.
I’m getting a brand new ACM-24-AT too. They are nice annunciators. Currently, I have an ACM-48A in my panel, which is the buttonless version of the ACM-24-AT.
Yeah, I like them. The bypass buttons are very convenient. It's only too bad that it's only VT programmable, but I can see it being pretty challenging to try and do keypad so it's understandable that that's the only way.
@@nics-systems-electric It’s only keypad programmable on a 3030 or NCA-2 I heard. By the way. Someone recommended that I use shielded cable for the EIA-485 circuits that are going through conduit outside of the panel, to prevent signal interference, but I see that you don’t use shielded cable and it looks like you haven’t had any issues with signal interference.
@@Fire-Lite457 yes that is true with the 3030 and NCA but that's only if it's on a 3030 as I wouldn't think you'd be able to get into a 320 or 640 from an NCA from what I've heard. And no I don't use shielded never seen an install done with shielded unless it's audio.
Everyone needs to do what they want in life. I really wish I could do what you did and if we ever custom build I will do what you did with Fire Lite and got my wife's support. I so much wish that that more persons and alarm customers could get better than just residential panels give.
It is good that the unit has a LAN connection on the system board to allow you to control the unit from your computer as the USB connection was damaged.
When i worked in a tax office When testing fire alarm in office hours or had work being done on the system we had a internal switch on the Bell's so the customer's was not affected in there daily workings.
@NIC'S - SYSTEMS AND ELECTRIC this is what i would've done to a 2005 built house even though it falls under 2005 codes. we just replaced a kidde firex with a brk first alert smoke and carbon monoxide alarm. the rest are kidde firex ionization smoke alarms.
Looks like communication is using the RS-485 bus. This needs a 120Ω termination resistor at both ends of the bus to retain signal integrity for long cable runs
man, i wish i had one of these systems lol! been waching since like start of 2021, forgot to sub ( i didnt have an account back then) but im subbed now! always great stuff, keep it up :) !
My grandparents are supers of a older apartment building. They have fire alarm bells. Mir tone. Anyway they have the old ones with glass and stuff. They know how to test them. HOWEVER there are 2 other alarms. Ones a potter and there’s a little hole and says to turn. Any tips for how to use those? And there’s another which is really weird. It’s a summit. It says pull and an arrow in the middle then tirez. Lower there’s FIRE the feu. How does that work?
That copy of Verifire Tools you're using is newer than v5.7 correct? Because earlier versions have an older UI but more importantly, does not have any sort of licensing verification mechanism built into it.
hey nic big question are these devices soposed to be blinking red or yellow? As people came and replased the edwards 6632 in our school. And the devices are blinking red and yellow
I have a question about my high schools notifier system that I wasn’t sure of, when i was walking up the stairs there was an annunciator but had the larger screen type, would you know what model that possibly was?
I bought an ES-50X for $500 in May 2023 and then a month later just lost interest in fire alarms, it's just sitting in the far corner of the house collecting dust. Oof.
@@rodgodx345 no the NFS 320C does not support DVC and there is not a four wire going to all sounder strobe locations so it would not be possible without major system reconfigure
5:01 Nic maybe pin this comment. I have to add you need a special cable that connects to the NUP port on the LCD2-80 to program it with verifire tools.
To be honest, Nic. If I were a fire alarm tech, I honestly would try to setup ACS wtih LCD2-80 only if it was mounted side by side with a ACM-24AT. Otherwise I would just use the terminal protocol. Now that's just me. I honestly would do that to save on running more wires.
14:08 man that piezo sounded like ur old systems eg ms4
Just make a separate, quick video (maybe a short), to explain why you have a commercial fire alarm system in your house, then put up a card to it for any video like this, and all you have to do is say something like "I get the question all the time, and there are plenty of good reasons why I have a commercial fire alarm system in my house. I'm not gonna go into it here, but you can click on the card up there if you're curious what they are."
Good idea
Actually eventually whats considered commercial now days will eventually be required in homes in both Canada and the US as the classic 10$ smoke alarm is increasingly not cutting it anymore. For instance in my house we have both smoke detectors and heat detectors in appropriate places like the attic due to the various environmental conditions heck the combo traditional and photoelectric smoke alarms should be the start level fire protection which won't happen until a major tragedy happens sadly.
@@KILLKING110 I don't think commercial system in the form of how they are currently will ever end up in residential applications due to the complexity and maintenance required. however the adoption of automatic sprinkler systems will become more common for sure. and possibly more advanced smoke alarm requirements for new construction.
I’m getting a brand new ACM-24-AT too. They are nice annunciators. Currently, I have an ACM-48A in my panel, which is the buttonless version of the ACM-24-AT.
Yeah, I like them. The bypass buttons are very convenient. It's only too bad that it's only VT programmable, but I can see it being pretty challenging to try and do keypad so it's understandable that that's the only way.
@@nics-systems-electric It’s only keypad programmable on a 3030 or NCA-2 I heard. By the way. Someone recommended that I use shielded cable for the EIA-485 circuits that are going through conduit outside of the panel, to prevent signal interference, but I see that you don’t use shielded cable and it looks like you haven’t had any issues with signal interference.
@@Fire-Lite457 yes that is true with the 3030 and NCA but that's only if it's on a 3030 as I wouldn't think you'd be able to get into a 320 or 640 from an NCA from what I've heard. And no I don't use shielded never seen an install done with shielded unless it's audio.
Everyone needs to do what they want in life. I really wish I could do what you did and if we ever custom build I will do what you did with Fire Lite and got my wife's support. I so much wish that that more persons and alarm customers could get better than just residential panels give.
Glad to help you get a program made.
It is good that the unit has a LAN connection on the system board to allow you to control the unit from your computer as the USB connection was damaged.
nic is kick ass. having a notifier installed in his house is pretty awesome.
Great video
Love you videos
Great video Nic 😊
When i worked in a tax office
When testing fire alarm in office hours or had work being done on the system we had a internal switch on the Bell's so the customer's was not affected in there daily workings.
Good idea: add some strobes outside just like your garage
Thanks. I don't plan to add any outdoor strobes on the house due to the aesthetics of them.
@@nics-systems-electric ok
I have been waiting for this
nice
what got you interested fire alarm systems? as always, great video Nic!
Not really sure just found it interesting learning why and how things are done the way they are
@@nics-systems-electric interesting. great video!
Nice video
When You Disable Out 1,2,3,4 You Can Press Next Selection And It Will Move To Next Output # Then Enter
Yes that's right
Don't listen to the people that think they can do what they want, you're the one that chooses to do what you do.
Love you vids!
Awesome. Does the nac disable button disable all nacs
Yes I programmed it to do all four of them but you wouldn't necessarily have to program it that way
@NIC'S - SYSTEMS AND ELECTRIC this is what i would've done to a 2005 built house even though it falls under 2005 codes. we just replaced a kidde firex with a brk first alert smoke and carbon monoxide alarm. the rest are kidde firex ionization smoke alarms.
Nice vid 😊
Looks like communication is using the RS-485 bus. This needs a 120Ω termination resistor at both ends of the bus to retain signal integrity for long cable runs
Interesting I've never heard of that or seen it in the field
man, i wish i had one of these systems lol! been waching since like start of 2021, forgot to sub ( i didnt have an account back then) but im subbed now! always great stuff, keep it up :) !
Thanks I appreciate it
J2 is a mini B connector but it’s not soldered to your board I found later boards don’t have it
It’s right beside the USB B connector at 8:17
My grandparents are supers of a older apartment building. They have fire alarm bells. Mir tone. Anyway they have the old ones with glass and stuff. They know how to test them. HOWEVER there are 2 other alarms. Ones a potter and there’s a little hole and says to turn. Any tips for how to use those? And there’s another which is really weird. It’s a summit. It says pull and an arrow in the middle then tirez. Lower there’s FIRE the feu. How does that work?
The best part? No more manually disabling things through a menu one at a time. It’s as simple as quickly and mindlessly pressing a row of buttons now.
Exactly way more convenient
That copy of Verifire Tools you're using is newer than v5.7 correct? Because earlier versions have an older UI but more importantly, does not have any sort of licensing verification mechanism built into it.
This was 10.55 which is needed as the panel is running version 24. 10.55 does require a license key
@@nics-systems-electric where did you get the license key?
hey nic big question are these devices soposed to be blinking red or yellow? As people came and replased the edwards 6632 in our school. And the devices are blinking red and yellow
If it's Honeywell they should be poling green if it's flashscan or red if it's clip or litespeed and isolator modules will blink yellow
@@nics-systems-electric ok thanks
Are you planning on adding any co protection to your system?
No I don't there is no need
can you make a cideo of the chime being installed
Once I do it yes
I have a question about my high schools notifier system that I wasn’t sure of, when i was walking up the stairs there was an annunciator but had the larger screen type, would you know what model that possibly was?
NCA2 or LCD-160
Ok thank you, looked more like the nca2 at my high school
I bought an ES-50X for $500 in May 2023 and then a month later just lost interest in fire alarms, it's just sitting in the far corner of the house collecting dust. Oof.
Sell it then
@@nics-systems-electric I was thinking about it. Might install it in the house if we end up staying here.
0:11 answer: because it is better than the cheap residential smokes.
Pretty much
What printer do you use for your computers?
I'm not sure
Did you use the verifier to use that
You have to it is not keypad programmable
Is there one for fire lite panels?
No I don't believe so
What happened to your dog when the fire alarm goes off she barks
He doesn't like noises
Voice evac upgrade?
This video is about a fire alarm annunciator nothing to do with a voice system.
@@nics-systems-electric I ment in the future I know this is about fire alarm annunicator
@@rodgodx345 no the NFS 320C does not support DVC and there is not a four wire going to all sounder strobe locations so it would not be possible without major system reconfigure
Only 18 seconds into the video and people have gotten mad at you because of fire alarms? Seriously?
Yes I've had some very upset people
Some people have nothing better to do than criticize others. They must have very sad lives.
@@nics-systems-electric what video was it under? i've never seen anyone get mad
@@CGray1234 can't really but one of the house system videos but I believe RUclips removed it
@@nics-systems-electricmakes sense. yt is pretty good at getting rid of those comments