Thank you. I made the change but unfortunately still a big dead zone... you can tell that as I'm turning slightly left and right the input still stays at 0 which has no effect. Getting rid of the 512 dead zone may have had a tiny effect, but getting the joystick to say anything other than 0 requires turning the yoke at least 6 or 7 degrees.
@@marcantonio152 Well okay, I will have to reserve judgement for now. I have a yoke of my own now, so I hope to set it up and do some experiments this weekend.
@@marcantonio152 You are right, my yoke has a dead zone on both axes. I am guessing is a mechanical consequence of how the potentiometers are linked to the yoke movements. There is about a 6mm dead zoneon the pitch axis and a few degrees (hard to measure accurately) on the roll.
There should be no dead-zone whatsoever. It is most likely a setting in FSUIPC. When FS Elite did their review they initially had a big dead-zone, but found out it was an error in FSUIPC and once they fixed it it worked perfect. Contact us on support@flyhoneycomb.com and we'll try to get more detailed feedback from FS Elite on how they solved the problem.
After about 15 hours of flying, I can update the review by saying the dead zone is still definitely the same (and noticeable) but more annoying is the weak aileron centering spring. I would much prefer to have to use more physical force to turn the yoke.
You say that you downloaded the Drivers from flyhoneycomb.com/drivers/ I'm not sure if you have done a Driver uninstall then re-installed of the specific LM Prepar3D Drivers. Upon watching other YT content creators who have done Honeycomb reviews, it appears it might be specific with using the Enterprise Simulation Platform ESP coding platform from Lockheed Martin Prepar3D. Recommend checking out YT content creator ChrizzyReviews and his recent Prepar3D clips ruclips.net/video/QX6WrmhzSYo/видео.html ruclips.net/video/H5Z9hmtEaPg/видео.html I understand the Honeycomb Yoke uses a Tension Bungee band with a similar setup as to the Yoko the yoke. The Honeycomb Tension Bands if they break can be replaced and it has high end 8 bit potentiometers with 255 measurements across 180 degrees, that equates to a measurement of 1.7 degrees of movement. If you like check out the following YT clips from FSExpo 2019 with Nicki Repenning, Founder and CEO of Honeycomb Aeronautical. ruclips.net/video/jhOLFImJ_4E/видео.html Also FSExpo 2019 FSElite Interview with Nicki Repenning ruclips.net/video/xUKgiiZrYI8/видео.html It's interesting to note in this clip @ 10:00 mark in the FSElite Interview, the question is asked about the Honeycomb future roadmap. With the possibility of a Honeycomb style Force feedback yoke. Nicki Repenning eludes to the fact that Honeycomb are in discussions with an un-named Canadian company, that makes electromagnetic force-feedback products. My guess is that their long term plans around a Force feedback style of yoke, is that they are currently corroborating with a small Canadian, British Columbia company called Iris Dynamics who previously ran a long delayed Kick-starter project a few years back. For a Electromagnetic Control Loading Dragon-Fly Yoke, at the time, the small team were not well-equipped for mass manufacturing and product support to develop their Iris Dragon-Fly force-feedback yoke any further for the flight sim community. www.irisdynamics.com/
@@radar-kiwis-canfly-nz3492 If it was a problem with the Microsoft sims the dead zones wouldn't show up in Windows Control Panel. In any case there is no driver, this is a native Windows joystick.
Not sure which aircraft you're referring to - the one at the start of the video was a C-2 from INDIAFOXTECHO, and the one at the end was the default F-22 from P3D
I tried to contact Honeycomb support several days ago and no response. Hopefully they respond soon. I will update if so... but if this comment is still here then they still haven’t responded.
Good honest review
Thank's, you save me some money.
Your aileron axis appears to have a null zone set in the FSUIPC dialog. (You have 0 and 512 in the centre values.)
Thank you. I made the change but unfortunately still a big dead zone... you can tell that as I'm turning slightly left and right the input still stays at 0 which has no effect. Getting rid of the 512 dead zone may have had a tiny effect, but getting the joystick to say anything other than 0 requires turning the yoke at least 6 or 7 degrees.
@@marcantonio152 Well okay, I will have to reserve judgement for now. I have a yoke of my own now, so I hope to set it up and do some experiments this weekend.
@@marcantonio152 You are right, my yoke has a dead zone on both axes. I am guessing is a mechanical consequence of how the potentiometers are linked to the yoke movements. There is about a 6mm dead zoneon the pitch axis and a few degrees (hard to measure accurately) on the roll.
There should be no dead-zone whatsoever. It is most likely a setting in FSUIPC. When FS Elite did their review they initially had a big dead-zone, but found out it was an error in FSUIPC and once they fixed it it worked perfect. Contact us on support@flyhoneycomb.com and we'll try to get more detailed feedback from FS Elite on how they solved the problem.
@@NickiRepenning I am seeing this in the Game Controller calibration screen in Windows 7 control panel, not FSUIPC. I will continue to experiment.
After about 15 hours of flying, I can update the review by saying the dead zone is still definitely the same (and noticeable) but more annoying is the weak aileron centering spring. I would much prefer to have to use more physical force to turn the yoke.
You say that you downloaded the Drivers from flyhoneycomb.com/drivers/ I'm not sure if you have done a Driver uninstall then re-installed of the specific LM Prepar3D Drivers. Upon watching other YT content creators who have done Honeycomb reviews, it appears it might be specific with using the Enterprise Simulation Platform ESP coding platform from Lockheed Martin Prepar3D. Recommend checking out YT content creator ChrizzyReviews and his recent Prepar3D clips
ruclips.net/video/QX6WrmhzSYo/видео.html
ruclips.net/video/H5Z9hmtEaPg/видео.html
I understand the Honeycomb Yoke uses a Tension Bungee band with a similar setup as to the Yoko the yoke. The Honeycomb Tension Bands if they break can be replaced and it has high end 8 bit potentiometers with 255 measurements across 180 degrees, that equates to a measurement of 1.7 degrees of movement. If you like check out the following YT clips from FSExpo 2019 with Nicki Repenning, Founder and CEO of Honeycomb Aeronautical. ruclips.net/video/jhOLFImJ_4E/видео.html
Also FSExpo 2019 FSElite Interview with Nicki Repenning ruclips.net/video/xUKgiiZrYI8/видео.html
It's interesting to note in this clip @ 10:00 mark in the FSElite Interview, the question is asked about the Honeycomb future roadmap. With the possibility of a Honeycomb style Force feedback yoke. Nicki Repenning eludes to the fact that Honeycomb are in discussions with an un-named Canadian company, that makes electromagnetic force-feedback products.
My guess is that their long term plans around a Force feedback style of yoke, is that they are currently corroborating with a small Canadian, British Columbia company called Iris Dynamics who previously ran a long delayed Kick-starter project a few years back. For a Electromagnetic Control Loading Dragon-Fly Yoke, at the time, the small team were not well-equipped for mass manufacturing and product support to develop their Iris Dragon-Fly force-feedback yoke any further for the flight sim community. www.irisdynamics.com/
@@radar-kiwis-canfly-nz3492 If it was a problem with the Microsoft sims the dead zones wouldn't show up in Windows Control Panel. In any case there is no driver, this is a native Windows joystick.
Unfortunately same center dead-zone issue on mine :'(
Pardon me for asking, what aircraft is that?
Not sure which aircraft you're referring to - the one at the start of the video was a C-2 from INDIAFOXTECHO, and the one at the end was the default F-22 from P3D
@@marcantonio152 Sorry for not being clear. The aircraft I was asking about is the C-2. Thank you.
Still no response from Honeycomb despite emailing them on Nov 19th. Sent a follow up email.
I tried to contact Honeycomb support several days ago and no response. Hopefully they respond soon. I will update if so... but if this comment is still here then they still haven’t responded.
Thats weird if you watch michael browns video (creater of xplane 11) he expiriences no dead zone what so ever.
Still no solutions from Honeycomb. No fruitful responses for that matter. Still a noticeable and annoying dead zone.