One of my three .308 caliber rifles is a Mossberg Patrol. Comes with box magazines and iron sights. Easy, crisp breaking trigger pull. It accepts standard DPMS profile LR-308/SR-25 magazines as well as M1A/M14 magazines. Great shooting gun for about $600
As an owner of PA-10, I can attest that they're among the very best rifles available in .308 Winchester. Mine will regularly place 5 Winchester 150 grain Powerpoints into a half inch group at a hundred yards, and I've had even better grouping with the Remington 150 grain Core-Lokt loads. (3/8" groups at 100 yds)
@gorzinplatz this is my 2nd .308 rifle I've owned, though I've owned/shot other calibers. The primary reason my accuracy tests have been at a hundred yards is because that's the longest range available to me without having to join a club. If I could find a 300 to 500 yard range to really test my rifle, I'd be in Heaven lol
The M-1A is perfect. It is accurate to 450 meters with it iron sites. A scope makes it accurate enough to take down game at 1000 meters. It is rugged and dependable. It lacks the scary sexiness of it AR counterparts, but it can be used from extreme arctic temperatures to a tropical jungle. It functions in sandy environments or in a hurricane.
@@ShaulDawgyou are much more polite in your reply than I might have been... but you are absolutely right...an M-14 is on my wish list.. my M1 is a fine stand-in...
My first .308 or 7.62 x 51 was a M14 in the Marine Corp. Shot platoon high expert with that rifle. Always like that one, and eventually picked up a M1A. Still very accurate with open sights, but reloading for it requires a few extra steps as the action is very quick and stretches the heck out of the brass
Picking up a Savage Axis 308 for my nephew this year. Start them when they're young getting used to the recoil of the heavier stuff. The 308 is a wonderful place to start not too hard not to soft. It lets you know you shot without punching you in the shoulder.
My oldest Daughter has a Savage Axis. I have shot it enough to know that it is an excellent hunting rifle and although she shoots competitively with a much more expensive target rifle she likes the relatively lightweight and acceptable accuracy of the Savage. 308 is her favorite caliber for both hunting and competition. Needless to say we reload all our own ammo and because she is considerably more fussy then I am she has tailored her ammo to the firearm and makes groupings similar to my A Bolt Browning with a rifle that cost half the price. So yes the Savage is a great starter rifle and even when the kid gets older he will still have a firearm that can shoot deer, elk and moose without ever having to buy something else...unless he wants to.
And MCarbo has a very expensive kit to allow a lighter trigger pull with the Axis that does not have the adjustable Savage trigger. I have an Axis 243 and an Axis 308. Both extremely accurate, both shoot better than I do.
@@chrisperkins4917 Yep. First time I was a teenager when I shot a shotgun and it had a slug in it and I wasn’t told how to hold it properly. I didn’t touch another shotty for over 20 years
You get what you pay for. AR-10's generally speaking don't hold up. A range queen is just that. A proven combat rifle is something you can depend on to save your life. I saw a soldier in El Salvador get hit in the thigh and was dead before he hit the ground. It took out both femurs and both femural arteries. Now that I'm old, I wouldn't want to hump one in the bush. But, an 18" Para 50:63 is my choice of battle proven rifles.
My first .308 was a Century C-308. bought because you can't beat a $600 .308. However I sold it after buying a PTR-91. They look the same on the outside but they have few interchangeable parts and internals are all different. The plus side to both, the magazines you can find as low as $2.50 the PTR can also change parts with the HK-G3.
For some people, 308 is a bit of a kick. Older, worn out joints not quite ready for replacement, my grandaughter, 15 years old and 112 pounds. But a friend offered his bolt action 308 with a muzzle brake he said was nicknamed the snot-knocker. Because people on the next bench over at the range got the snot knocked out of there nose with every trigger pull. It shot like a 9mm carbine. Every trigger pull was a joy for both the old man and the lightweight kid. And yes, at the bench on either side, the concussion was amazing. But it was easy to keep the sights on the target.
I've got a Ruger American in 308 and I'm very happy with this gun using 180 gr. Winchester power points. It's a single jagged hole at 100 yards. My other 308 is a Howa bull barrel 24 in. Cerakote camouflage. It will do the same thing with the 178 gr. Hornady ELDX bullets. These newer guns have better barrels and tighter chambers besides floated barrels. The triggers aren't the best and trigger control seems to be the biggest hurdle. The only thing I would change would have to be is a better trigger. I'm currently considering getting some new Timneys for these two. I'm used to my Remington 700s clean, crisp break with no creep set at 3 pounds. Can't say this old 700 bdl in 30/06 will poke em all through the same ragged hole with factory ammunition. I have a load working just as well as the 308s, but I'll never shoot anything else, cause I found the magic recipe for that old gun. Semper Fi.
Remove the trigger spring (behind the adjustment screw) install a ball point pen spring and you will have a 2 1/4 pound trigger. I cut my spring off 1/4" and plisshes all the parts that rub with diamond compound and a Dremel (most of the grit was coming from the middle trigger blade rubbing, it is punched and one side has burrs) and I have a 1 3/4 pound trigger that is silky smooth (think Timney) Put a Magupl Hunter stock on it ($234 on EBay), a nice brake and you will love this gun
I got a Sig 716i tread. A little heavy with a scope, but I like it. At or just over 1 moa at 100 yards with the right ammo. Works for me.😊 Somewhere down the line, I might get a bolt action.
love my 308 Rifles, my favorite is the model 64 Winchester Semiauto 4 shot she is deadly, and my military sniper rifle has it sitted in at 1000 yards I know there are newer ones that may be better but I love my old school god bless all
Honestly Savage rifles used to get a lot of shit for no reason, but really myself and friends of mine have found that they’re very likely the most accurate straight out of the box.
I’m still a Winchester Model 70 fan. I’ve fired just about every one of them other rifles and it’s nearest competitors are the Remington Model 700(M-40 in Marines👍🏻🇺🇸) and the Springfield M1A1. The .308 Winchester (7.62mm NATO) is one accurate rifle round. It’s an excellent choice for large game, long range shooting and home defense, in a pinch. Thanks for sharing the video post and very best of luck 🍀👍🏻. 🇺🇸🦅🌎⚓️🇺🇸🍀
Wow the Axis made it ! I have Axis II it in .30-06. The stock must have been one of a kind, beautiful rosewood. Have not seen any like that since I bought it. . . As far as .308, nothing beats my lever action model 88.
LRB of long Island, the premier builder of the platform. Also, forget about the Springfield scope mount. It won't stay on unless you weld it. Go with Sadlak, and you'll never have any problems.
Pick it up after handling a sub 6 lb POF Rogue. They are light years apart in build quality. If you’re goal is to own the cheapest rifle, the Ruger wins. But, years after the purchase, the price paid will be forgotten. It’s the difference between a Yugo and a Lexus. I prefer to save up and buy quality. To each their own.
@@robertgoodrich8953 😆let me clarify - if i we're buying today- on my present budget ( retired) what i do have is a POF revoloution-- i didn't say I'd trade-- bravo to your Rogue!
I've got the Super Match M1A. Out of the box it is guaranteed t o shoot sub-MOA. The problem for me: It's so incredibly heavy at 11 lLbs 8 ounces and that excludes scope, loaded magazine, or bipod which brings it to the 13 - 14 pound range. I've also got the Scout Squad with a Holosun on it. The SM has a Vortex Viper! Both work well, but one is just so VERY heavy!
Nice list. I purchased a M1A socom 16 a few months back. Not for long range shooting but a bucket list dream rifle of mine. Long range shooting I'm actually looking into the rem 700 SPS.
Agreed. Great selection! The M1A might possibly be the greatest 308 rifle ever made. Yeah it’s old shcool and a little “heavy” but with that heft comes durability, longer barrel to reach out and touch it, and endless supply of parts and info. I mean it shoots a 308 and if I can’t have my .30-06 bolt gun than this is the perfect step between AR platform and a bolt. Certainly great as a DMR and for sniping within its limits!
Have fired and know friends that used the Ruger and the M10, Both are very reliable and accurate, However spend some money on the right Scope and Mounts. Both got what they were told were good setups, accuracy fell off within 5 to 10 rounds as the mounts and scopes they had been recommended were unable to handle the recoil without losing zero. One of them got jostled around by moving to hunting grounds on a semi rough trail and couldn`t hit anything, it was in a hard shell case.
It was a great video for the information. The only critique, I have is that you used way too much footage that was not pertinent to the subject matter; such as shotguns, pistols, a machine gun with a blank adaptor and so much more. Good information. However, something tells me that you could do better on the video footage.
AR-10 are made by Armalite, those that are shown here are DPMS style AR308. There are some hig differences like how the rear of the receivers are cut, DPMS style rifle are rounded while Armalite AR-10 is cut at 45 degrees. As for the list, I think the Savage 10 should be in there instead of the Axis.
:52 seconds in states closest competitors are 30-06 Springfield , 270 Winchester, and 7mm Remington (HAS PICTURE OF 7MM Remington MAGNUM !? ) NOWHERE CLOSE. Try 6.5 creedmoor , 7mm-08 Remington , 260 Remington , 243 Winchester, and 338 Federal with a shout out to 358 Winchester. I appreciate your attempt to educate ; but please do not mis educate those that may want to try this sport.
Why? A .308 is actually SAMMY speced at 5,000 pounds of pressure more than a 30-06 and with a 150 grain bullet is faster than a 30-06 with equal length barrels. Where the 30-06 shines is with a 26 inch 1/9 twist with 200 grain or heavier barrels for Moose or bears.
I wouldn’t suggest the/an M1A for the “beginner” honestly. Mainly for the lack of being able to upgrade it FOR OPTICS..as most would want. It’s a bit more complex than JUST adding an optic ‘mount’..
Optics is just the tip of the iceberg. The M1A is expensive, finicky, unreliable, not really even all that accurate, and is more difficult to work on. You can put together a decent AR-10 for hundreds less that will be functionally superior to an M1A in literally every way. I have a pair of Aero M5s with many more rounds and much less hassle than my M1A. My M1A has been back to Springfield twice. Even the 16 in CMV barreled M5 will shoot circles around the M1A. The 20 in Proof barreled M5? Forget about it. The M1A isn't even in the same league. The M1A is a shitty knock-off of an abomination by a poser company.
@@MTMILITIAMAN7.62 ..everybody has an opinion..doesn’t make it better or worse than anybody else’s, JUST AN experience. And seems YOU’VE had a BAD one..whereas MILLIONS of us haven’t..OR we just embrace the platform.
It don't matter if the 30 ought 6 with made the 1940s ACP was made in 1911 still Reigns Supreme make the 10 mm to 40 caliber but when it comes to it the 45acp reign supreme just lock the 30 ought 6
Beginners get .177 break barrel air rifle with 2 pellets and dont get anything else until they come back with a rat or something. Then they can progress. Lol thats how i was taught.
M1A isn't a lightweight rifle, the stock is heavy, the barrel is heavy, even most scope mounts are heavy, the ammo is huuuuge.....and then if you nerdify it further with rattle tattle it becomes even more heavy.
mine has an archangel stock, gen 4 scope mount, rings, good Burris scope, 22 inch barrel national match, after market flash suppressor with bayonet lug and full 20 round mag. . . 14.2. pounds. Personally, to old to load and use the 30 round mag . . .
I have to say. I really don’t like it when you are speaking about one particular rifle or cartridge and the video footage is showing another one. In the current video you were talking about the recoil of a 308 compared to 5.56, and the video footage showed somebody loading a shotgun. There are instances of this all over your videos.
That is unfortunately true but you can pick up an older Model 700 for a reasonable price and those ones will last the lifetime of your average shooter. My son in law puts over 100 rounds through his every year (we may be considered fanatics when it comes to shooting) and his rifle is almost 20 years old and still very accurate.
@@TimDyck 40 yrs back i had the chance to use one and let me tell you i was amazed with it's accuracy and build. After that i wanted one should have bought one back then. I'm glad you ended up with a good one.
Disingenuous review when any 308 review ignores the budget precision Howa 1500 action. Nothing compares in price for quality budget entry 308 ELR shooters.
You've done a disservice by not highlighting the M18 Mauser in .308. It can do anything a hunter needs at any practical range. Built by Germans, who know about rifle quality.
Why not buy a chassis rifle. With it the rifle can be made to fit the shooter and thus realization of a muscularly relaxed position is assured and that relaxation means more consistent recoil resistance for smaller groupings.
One of my three .308 caliber rifles is a Mossberg Patrol. Comes with box magazines and iron sights. Easy, crisp breaking trigger pull. It accepts standard DPMS profile LR-308/SR-25 magazines as well as M1A/M14 magazines. Great shooting gun for about $600
Save up and get the Springfield M1a.
As an owner of PA-10, I can attest that they're among the very best rifles available in .308 Winchester. Mine will regularly place 5 Winchester 150 grain Powerpoints into a half inch group at a hundred yards, and I've had even better grouping with the Remington 150 grain Core-Lokt loads. (3/8" groups at 100 yds)
How many 308's have you shot? 100 yards is pretty much point blank range for a 308.
@gorzinplatz this is my 2nd .308 rifle I've owned, though I've owned/shot other calibers. The primary reason my accuracy tests have been at a hundred yards is because that's the longest range available to me without having to join a club. If I could find a 300 to 500 yard range to really test my rifle, I'd be in Heaven lol
The M-1A is perfect. It is accurate to 450 meters with it iron sites. A scope makes it accurate enough to take down game at 1000 meters. It is rugged and dependable. It lacks the scary sexiness of it AR counterparts, but it can be used from extreme arctic temperatures to a tropical jungle. It functions in sandy environments or in a hurricane.
Ok boomer
@@raptorman6589 You just can't accept the truth, He's right.
I have the Scout Squad version and I love it! Shoots like a dream!
@@ShaulDawgyou are much more polite in your reply than I might have been... but you are absolutely right...an M-14 is on my wish list.. my M1 is a fine stand-in...
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My first .308 or 7.62 x 51 was a M14 in the Marine Corp. Shot platoon high expert with that rifle. Always like that one, and eventually picked up a M1A. Still very accurate with open sights, but reloading for it requires a few extra steps as the action is very quick and stretches the heck out of the brass
My same experience with the brass.. only reload it twice or the head comes off but love the M1A
Good information!
Picking up a Savage Axis 308 for my nephew this year. Start them when they're young getting used to the recoil of the heavier stuff. The 308 is a wonderful place to start not too hard not to soft. It lets you know you shot without punching you in the shoulder.
My oldest Daughter has a Savage Axis. I have shot it enough to know that it is an excellent hunting rifle and although she shoots competitively with a much more expensive target rifle she likes the relatively lightweight and acceptable accuracy of the Savage. 308 is her favorite caliber for both hunting and competition. Needless to say we reload all our own ammo and because she is considerably more fussy then I am she has tailored her ammo to the firearm and makes groupings similar to my A Bolt Browning with a rifle that cost half the price.
So yes the Savage is a great starter rifle and even when the kid gets older he will still have a firearm that can shoot deer, elk and moose without ever having to buy something else...unless he wants to.
@@TimDyck yep. And good luck to your daughter in her competitions.
just dont get too heavy too soon. my dad put me into a 20g too soon. too long. too much at the time. put me off guns for several years.
And MCarbo has a very expensive kit to allow a lighter trigger pull with the Axis that does not have the adjustable Savage trigger. I have an Axis 243 and an Axis 308. Both extremely accurate, both shoot better than I do.
@@chrisperkins4917
Yep. First time I was a teenager when I shot a shotgun and it had a slug in it and I wasn’t told how to hold it properly. I didn’t touch another shotty for over 20 years
why a waterfowler in the vid? I rename you the POO-POO Zone! 🤣🤣🤣
Kinda surprised they didn’t mention the PTR-91
@@Carrotman224DSA FN-FAL. End of story Finest battle rifle ever made.
You get what you pay for. AR-10's generally speaking don't hold up. A range queen is just that. A proven combat rifle is something you can depend on to save your life. I saw a soldier in El Salvador get hit in the thigh and was dead before he hit the ground. It took out both femurs and both femural arteries. Now that I'm old, I wouldn't want to hump one in the bush. But, an 18" Para 50:63 is my choice of battle proven rifles.
My first .308 was a Century C-308. bought because you can't beat a $600 .308. However I sold it after buying a PTR-91. They look the same on the outside but they have few interchangeable parts and internals are all different. The plus side to both, the magazines you can find as low as $2.50 the PTR can also change parts with the HK-G3.
@@Carrotman224 they brought up the M1A in this video, those are $300-$1000+ more than a PTR. Yeah budget.
For some people, 308 is a bit of a kick. Older, worn out joints not quite ready for replacement, my grandaughter, 15 years old and 112 pounds. But a friend offered his bolt action 308 with a muzzle brake he said was nicknamed the snot-knocker. Because people on the next bench over at the range got the snot knocked out of there nose with every trigger pull. It shot like a 9mm carbine. Every trigger pull was a joy for both the old man and the lightweight kid. And yes, at the bench on either side, the concussion was amazing. But it was easy to keep the sights on the target.
I've got a Ruger American in 308 and I'm very happy with this gun using 180 gr. Winchester power points. It's a single jagged hole at 100 yards.
My other 308 is a Howa bull barrel 24 in. Cerakote camouflage. It will do the same thing with the 178 gr. Hornady ELDX bullets. These newer guns have better barrels and tighter chambers besides floated barrels.
The triggers aren't the best and trigger control seems to be the biggest hurdle. The only thing I would change would have to be is a better trigger. I'm currently considering getting some new Timneys for these two. I'm used to my Remington 700s clean, crisp break with no creep set at 3 pounds.
Can't say this old 700 bdl in 30/06 will poke em all through the same ragged hole with factory ammunition. I have a load working just as well as the 308s, but I'll never shoot anything else, cause I found the magic recipe for that old gun.
Semper Fi.
If I get a bolt 308, it will probably be a Ruger American. For now, my sig 716i fits the bill.
Remove the trigger spring (behind the adjustment screw) install a ball point pen spring and you will have a 2 1/4 pound trigger. I cut my spring off 1/4" and plisshes all the parts that rub with diamond compound and a Dremel (most of the grit was coming from the middle trigger blade rubbing, it is punched and one side has burrs) and I have a 1 3/4 pound trigger that is silky smooth (think Timney) Put a Magupl Hunter stock on it ($234 on EBay), a nice brake and you will love this gun
I got a Sig 716i tread. A little heavy with a scope, but I like it. At or just over 1 moa at 100 yards with the right ammo. Works for me.😊
Somewhere down the line, I might get a bolt action.
Great rifles!
love my 308 Rifles, my favorite is the model 64 Winchester Semiauto 4 shot she is deadly, and my military sniper rifle has it sitted in at 1000 yards I know there are newer ones that may be better but I love my old school god bless all
SOCOM 16 is my next buy for my 308 battle rifle
Ruger SFAR is an under $1k winner !
Honestly Savage rifles used to get a lot of shit for no reason, but really myself and friends of mine have found that they’re very likely the most accurate straight out of the box.
Exactly, they hang right there with the Rem 700, maybe even a little better now.
For a sweet 308, the Browning bar and Mark 3!
I’m still a Winchester Model 70 fan. I’ve fired just about every one of them other rifles and it’s nearest competitors are the Remington Model 700(M-40 in Marines👍🏻🇺🇸) and the Springfield M1A1. The .308 Winchester (7.62mm NATO) is one accurate rifle round. It’s an excellent choice for large game, long range shooting and home defense, in a pinch. Thanks for sharing the video post and very best of luck 🍀👍🏻. 🇺🇸🦅🌎⚓️🇺🇸🍀
Wow the Axis made it ! I have Axis II it in .30-06. The stock must have been one of a kind, beautiful rosewood. Have not seen any like that since I bought it. . . As far as .308, nothing beats my lever action model 88.
Pa 10 with 168 grain v max at 2700 fps .5 moa 18 inch s.s. had to lap the barrel to get .5 but well worth it.
My PA-10 groups 150 grain pills like that. PSA makes some damn awesome shooting rifles!
LRB of long Island, the premier builder of the platform. Also, forget about the Springfield scope mount. It won't stay on unless you weld it. Go with Sadlak, and you'll never have any problems.
If i had it to do over,I'd grab a Ruger SFAR with the 20 in bbl. My shooting buddy just got one and i am thoroughly impressed.
Pick it up after handling a sub 6 lb POF Rogue. They are light years apart in build quality. If you’re goal is to own the cheapest rifle, the Ruger wins. But, years after the purchase, the price paid will be forgotten. It’s the difference between a Yugo and a Lexus. I prefer to save up and buy quality. To each their own.
@@robertgoodrich8953 😆let me clarify - if i we're buying today- on my present budget ( retired) what i do have is a POF revoloution-- i didn't say I'd trade-- bravo to your Rogue!
I've got the Super Match M1A. Out of the box it is guaranteed t o shoot sub-MOA. The problem for me: It's so incredibly heavy at 11 lLbs 8 ounces and that excludes scope, loaded magazine, or bipod which brings it to the 13 - 14 pound range. I've also got the Scout Squad with a Holosun on it. The SM has a Vortex Viper! Both work well, but one is just so VERY heavy!
Absolutely great choices! Performance and affordability will make the shooter enthusiastic about the sport.
Seems like two or three of those are in the Safe. Good list
I hunt with a heavy barrel Marlin X7, very nice too.
Nice list. I purchased a M1A socom 16 a few months back. Not for long range shooting but a bucket list dream rifle of mine. Long range shooting I'm actually looking into the rem 700 SPS.
Agreed. Great selection! The M1A might possibly be the greatest 308 rifle ever made. Yeah it’s old shcool and a little “heavy” but with that heft comes durability, longer barrel to reach out and touch it, and endless supply of parts and info. I mean it shoots a 308 and if I can’t have my .30-06 bolt gun than this is the perfect step between AR platform and a bolt. Certainly great as a DMR and for sniping within its limits!
I've used the M14 in combat and that round is the beat l think. I also have a Remington 700 in .308 .
Have fired and know friends that used the Ruger and the M10, Both are very reliable and accurate, However spend some money on the right Scope and Mounts.
Both got what they were told were good setups, accuracy fell off within 5 to 10 rounds as the mounts and scopes they had been recommended were unable to handle the recoil without losing zero. One of them got jostled around by moving to hunting grounds on a semi rough trail and couldn`t hit anything, it was in a hard shell case.
It was a great video for the information. The only critique, I have is that you used way too much footage that was not pertinent to the subject matter; such as shotguns, pistols, a machine gun with a blank adaptor and so much more. Good information. However, something tells me that you could do better on the video footage.
Nice video with good information. Perhaps you could show visuals of the weapon that you are speaking about at the time.
AR-10 are made by Armalite, those that are shown here are DPMS style AR308. There are some hig differences like how the rear of the receivers are cut, DPMS style rifle are rounded while Armalite AR-10 is cut at 45 degrees. As for the list, I think the Savage 10 should be in there instead of the Axis.
Does the 700 still have the discharge problem?
I also personally have a aero precision AR-10 build.
I was hoping to see the Beretta BRX1, Steyr bolt action , savage impulse, Howa, Legacy
:52 seconds in states closest competitors are 30-06 Springfield , 270 Winchester, and 7mm Remington (HAS PICTURE OF 7MM Remington MAGNUM !? ) NOWHERE CLOSE.
Try 6.5 creedmoor , 7mm-08 Remington , 260 Remington , 243 Winchester, and 338 Federal with a shout out to 358 Winchester. I appreciate your attempt to educate ; but please do not mis educate those that may want to try this sport.
I sold my M1A many years ago and have regretted it ever since. 1600 dollar rifle with about the same in optics and accessories.
Number 1 is the DSA SA58 FAL
Lo utilicé durante mi tiempo en el ejército y todavía lo utilizan en argentina
What about an Winchester XPR? Surprised it didn't make your list. Love mine.
My first 308 was the FNAR
TC Compass bolt action, 5R rifling, multiple calibers for about $400.
The perfect .308 is a rifle chambered in 30 06.
Why? A .308 is actually SAMMY speced at 5,000 pounds of pressure more than a 30-06 and with a 150 grain bullet is faster than a 30-06 with equal length barrels. Where the 30-06 shines is with a 26 inch 1/9 twist with 200 grain or heavier barrels for Moose or bears.
Good luck finding mags for the savage.
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I'd probably place the Ruger American higher than the Savage Axis and the Remington 700.
I wouldn’t suggest the/an M1A for the “beginner” honestly. Mainly for the lack of being able to upgrade it FOR OPTICS..as most would want. It’s a bit more complex than JUST adding an optic ‘mount’..
Optics is just the tip of the iceberg. The M1A is expensive, finicky, unreliable, not really even all that accurate, and is more difficult to work on. You can put together a decent AR-10 for hundreds less that will be functionally superior to an M1A in literally every way. I have a pair of Aero M5s with many more rounds and much less hassle than my M1A. My M1A has been back to Springfield twice. Even the 16 in CMV barreled M5 will shoot circles around the M1A. The 20 in Proof barreled M5? Forget about it. The M1A isn't even in the same league. The M1A is a shitty knock-off of an abomination by a poser company.
@@MTMILITIAMAN7.62 ..everybody has an opinion..doesn’t make it better or worse than anybody else’s, JUST AN experience. And seems YOU’VE had a BAD one..whereas MILLIONS of us haven’t..OR we just embrace the platform.
Savage Apex Hunter is better beginner I think than the Axis
m 66 and can shoot up to 458 Lott so recoil is not an issue for ,e/
I love my AR-10 (308) with my 30 round magazines. Be safe my friends. I'm not crazy about bolt action rifles.
Is 308 / eu 7.62 nato
good info and thanks for sharing. I just can't bring myself to subscribe because the vocal track sounds way too robotic.
Still like my Winchester model 100 semi- auto carbine
It don't matter if the 30 ought 6 with made the 1940s ACP was made in 1911 still Reigns Supreme make the 10 mm to 40 caliber but when it comes to it the 45acp reign supreme just lock the 30 ought 6
I am the proud owner of the M1A marine corps super match Rifle Springfield Armory. The Rifle is no longer made by Springfield Armory why?
You do good videos, but I hate your name pew pew what the hell is that?
6.5 Creedmoor
You haven’t shot a .308 have you??
I don't think he's real. It's clearly a bot channel.
308 303 what is the difference?
308 is .308 and 303 is .311
Why show a clip of a M249 with a blank adapter? It’s a full auto weapon chambered in 5.56
THATS A SAW249 in 5.56mm not M240 in 7.62. lol. just saying 😂
Howa 1500 or an ar10
308 isn't the most expensive BUT it ain't cheap either. 556/762x39 = $0.33. 308=$1.00 That aint cheap!
Beginners get .177 break barrel air rifle with 2 pellets and dont get anything else until they come back with a rat or something. Then they can progress. Lol thats how i was taught.
What about the mossberg patrol rifle?
Enjoy the rust and giant groups
Molot vepr 308
Saiga 308????
H&K G3???
M1A isn't a lightweight rifle, the stock is heavy, the barrel is heavy, even most scope mounts are heavy, the ammo is huuuuge.....and then if you nerdify it further with rattle tattle it becomes even more heavy.
mine has an archangel stock, gen 4 scope mount, rings, good Burris scope, 22 inch barrel national match, after market flash suppressor with bayonet lug and full 20 round mag. . . 14.2. pounds. Personally, to old to load and use the 30 round mag . . .
M1A SOCOM
I have to say. I really don’t like it when you are speaking about one particular rifle or cartridge and the video footage is showing another one. In the current video you were talking about the recoil of a 308 compared to 5.56, and the video footage showed somebody loading a shotgun. There are instances of this all over your videos.
great price for a 5 - 10 hundred dollar rifle pew pew
Where’s the fn fal.
They are in South Africa.
Kind of thinking those AR 10 prices are way wrong
🤷♂️ I got my no1 in 2000.
A .308 is not a beginner's rifle.
From experience... no it is not 😂
Where you getting a .308 oracle for under $1000? You might pull off a DPMS oracle in 5.56 for 600 but you ain't getting a .308 oracle for under 800.
Remington make junk now its gone bankrupt and has switched hands a few times. Remington is not what it used to be
That is unfortunately true but you can pick up an older Model 700 for a reasonable price and those ones will last the lifetime of your average shooter. My son in law puts over 100 rounds through his every year (we may be considered fanatics when it comes to shooting) and his rifle is almost 20 years old and still very accurate.
@@TimDyck 40 yrs back i had the chance to use one and let me tell you i was amazed with it's accuracy and build. After that i wanted one should have bought one back then. I'm glad you ended up with a good one.
If you don't want a bolt gun then buy a Browning bar or a fnfal ora M1A sping field
James River bm59 are cheaper
Disingenuous review when any 308 review ignores the budget precision Howa 1500 action. Nothing compares in price for quality budget entry 308 ELR shooters.
Why do you show so many shotgun video clips if we are supposed to be discussing.308 rifles?
You've done a disservice by not highlighting the M18 Mauser in .308. It can do anything a hunter needs at any practical range. Built by Germans, who know about rifle quality.
The newer model Remingtons are absolute garbage
The P-P zone is a toilet or my back porch
AR10 and "entry level" do not go together...imo
Remington 788 under 1 k and will out shoot a sako or tika box mag short short actions topped w red field 2x7 It’s all u need
Hang with the 700!
Are you all on rump. ??
The pee pee zone?
Why not buy a chassis rifle. With it the rifle can be made to fit the shooter and thus realization of a muscularly relaxed position is assured and that relaxation means more consistent recoil resistance for smaller groupings.
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You really do need to get rid of that fake computer voice
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This is a rip off of Madman Reviews.
Beginners’s rifle my M24 SWS
I refuse to listen to computer generated voices.
Really wanted to watch this but it sounds like your mouth has food stuffed in its cheeks both sides so it sounds really kind of shity