My daughter sent me a pic of a Bill board outside a craft shop. Unfortunately I'm not smart enough to import, copy ,paste etc so here's what it said. " A new study shows that people that have a ridiculous amount of Craft Supplies, live longer than people who point it out." If that's the case then I'm going to live to a very ripe old age.
Im not sure ill ever stop collecting models. Regardless if i even get to them. I just love having them and having the "option" of building what I want.
I have been minimizing my stash. I didn’t just want the models to go to other stashes so have been seeking out newer builders just starting out. I give the models for a cut rate deal (even free) but make them promise this will be built. I also state the goal is to finish at their level, you only learn by trying. Even if it isn’t painted try it. Cheers, Mark
As a corollary, most immediately look up the cost of the model, state it is too expensive and say they will wait to build once they have the skills. I point out they have the model for next to nothing and (previous of your topics) it is better to start learning with a good kit. Just build IT.
Thanks for the video! My wife just inherited her father's collection of 300+ vintage RC Plane model kits. I can't believe this video exists. I feel attacked on Hank's behalf. Although we are not planning to stash them, we'll be putting most on Ebay, and the others we'll be donating. I was actually researching the Sterling Models/George Harris Spitfire from the collection today. Seems like Hank was a big fan of the Spitfire as well, I think there were a few others from other manufacturers.
Thanks for this video. The best way I have heard it put is " we buy these kits, thinking we are buying the time to build them" anyway....time to get back to building those kits!
When I got my first real job at 16, I was buying kits left right and center. Didnt get to building really, well building yes but not painting, thats what I dislike the most. Havent finished a kit in years due to depression, other things taking up my time or short, life getting in the way. I really enjoy the hobby but at the same time, it's stressing me out. Like you said "yeah you need xyz or the kit is wrong". Knew a guy that said unless you get xyz, I wont even look at your kit, because I know its wrong. He was ex military and about as old as you, different generation and perspective I guess. But you're right, I remember going to the hobby shop, as a kid, buying a kit, being super happy, over the moon and just building it and enjoying it. That magic is gone. It's time to thin the stash, thank you for this video that gave me some insight.
I hear you because I'm exactly the same, as I kid I enjoyed building hundreds of kits and I never painted them, just moved on to the next one, cheap small scale kits all of them. Now I have to paint them and do all the decals, which is rewarding and allows you to keep the final build or it would hit the bin. Stressful nonetheless, I spend 25% of my time building and the rest is painting all the big and all the little things out of necessity, constantly worrying not to make a mistake and ruin the build. There's no way around it, all the nice kits are too expensive to just build and put aside/throw away afterwards.
I've had depression - it was ******* awful! I suggest you start a new kit, finish it AND PAINT IT! - that will definitely help! Just know that you're not alone and this too shall pass; though it may need some welly, energetic progress in absolutely any direction -good luck and keep watching old Harry - he'll cheer you up!
Hello, enjoyed the directness and laughed a few times. Thank you. I’ve made a Will, in it to leave any models made or unmade to my Model Club and Model Railway Club.
Hey Harry, George from the USA. I have the same problem you have. I have about 275 kits in my stash and I am 61 years old. I realize that the numbers don't add up. I will not live long enough to finish my stash. I worh as a library aid and because my wife has a lot of illnesses, instead of retiring next year, I will have to work until at least 70 years old (for the medical benefits). So i decided to do 2 programs for the library . The library I work at is attached to a middle school(grades 6-8). The first program is going to be for kids to learn the hobby. I will be bringing most of my stash to the program for kids to choose what topics they want to model. The next program will be for seniors and vets with (PTSD) and I will help them hopefully get past their physical and emotional problems. But understand Harry, with all that I will still have a stash but it will be a lot more manageable. Thanks for listening or reading. All the best and good luck eradicating the model horders world wide. P.S. Remember that old people like us model building is good for the dexterity of you hands and mind......Thanks
Yes scale modelling is a good way to keep your mind active as you get older…. but my eyes and hands just seem to have their own ideas on what is going on, Thanks for sharing George.
STash Acquired Beyond Life Expectancy - STABLE stash. I have kits in a stash - some I have taken ages to find and collect. For example, I have two Battlestar Galactica ships form the 80's that took years to find, and I will light and build them when i get round to it. I have recently bought an R2D2 THAT IS NEARLY AS OLD AS I AM (not quite) but has taken me 8 years to find at a reasonable cost. If I left it longer I would miss the opportunity. I aim to build them all, but also like to read instructions, so they are all open. I don't think I am unreasonable - although the wife would disagree - its my money. Also, the rose coloured glasses kick in. I have wanted a Short Sunderland for years as I built one when younger and seeing you build one has scratched that itch - so if you want to build an Airfix RAF rescue launch, that would also save me buying one. :) Keep up the good work!
That was a fun video! Thank you! Only 150? I asked my wife what she would do with my stash if I suddenly "kicked the bucket", without hesitation she replied she would have those things at the dump so fast and wouldn't think twice about it!
Down to 130 now after I sold off some submarines I will never build and my friend Becker made an offer I could not refuse on a few of my Wingnut Wings kits I’d probably never get around to making.
Now i feel glad that i just decided yesterday to not get more kits into my stash untill i built like at least one 3rd of it. Lets see for how long i can hold on to it😄
A while back I bought 20 armored model kits from a toy store that was going out of business. The discounts were 50% to 70% off. I gave all of them to my younger brother so that he could build them with his son. When I recently retired and went to visit him in Florida, he told me his son wasn’t really interested in building the models so he stored them all in the attic of his house. For 41 years. He gave them back to me and I set up a table and in the last couple of months I’ve built 3 of the kits. It’s been absolutely wonderful for a hobby at my age because I can finally afford all the paints, airbrush with compressor, nice brushes, etc. and build them the way I’ve always dreamed of. Cheers.
Greetings from the UK, Harry. Great video and I can relate tp almost everything you've said! Started in the late 60s-early 70s, buy one, built one, discovered fishing, beer, girls etc etc. Stopped, got dumped started again, stopped when I got married and had kids, started again and haven't stopped! I've a stash, along with almost everyone. Mines quite modest, just shy of 160. BUT I've mainly been buying for my retirement, cos these things won't get any cheaper. I mostly model ww2 German what ifs and the chassis I use is the Tamiya PzIV Ausf D, I've 6 of those because its cheap! I also like the PzIV because it was made throughout the war and used for so many specialist vehicles as well as the various marks and my intention is to get a complete set of the special purpose tanks and a representative collection of the gun tanks along with my whatiffery. But just as I think I've got every one, someone will post an oddity, I've got to scratchbuild! The latest is a post war PzIV with a crane instead of a turret, so thats a scratchbuild added to the list! Still, that's my plan! As to when I shuffle of this mortal coil, well, my youngest daughter is a modeller and will take the pick of the stash and the rest will be sold, donated to models for heroes, or given to a charity shop. Thanks again for the video, and I'll be watching your😊 previous ones. Keep safe, matey.
I just found your channel and I’m a younger modeler. I’ve been thinking about this as well as my stash has gotten larger. I’m proud of my moderation and It’s really the only thing I do hoard. You’re absolutely right and I think what you said here are all things that need to be said. Like, we should feel called out on this. I know I got kits on the cheap from other people who passed away and it was their family getting rid of things. I have all the kits that I’ve wanted and I’m grateful for that. Like I have rare things that some others might think are stupid but I think they’re cool. I also have things that I just got because I could. Now I’m at a point where there’s very few things that I want and they’re very specific like the Dragon 1/350 HMS Nelson they announced this time a year ago. Or if an Airfix HMS Prince finally shows up in my neck of the woods. I was proud of myself that I downsized and sold kits to folks who all built them and it was so wonderful hearing back from them and having them share their builds with me.
It is very rewarding to pass on a kit you have left languished on the shelf then see the excitement and enthusiasm of the new owner. They are meant to be built. Not collected.
Thank you Harry for sharing your thoughts with us. Some half a year ago I also was thinking of reducing that stock. But later I forgot about it due to work in my job and a girl I met... As an Aquarius such problems for me are even more severe, as I tend to start something then leave it beside, not completed, just to start something else I find more interesting at the moment. And modeling isn't all, unfortunately, as I also own a few hundred books, many of which I never read and perhaps never will... Thank you very much for remembering me of these "problems" again! I am 54 now and have to make space in my house! I will do my best to sell lots of items next time to come to half of all of that! I will, I swear! Love and peace.
That's very true, Harry. In another of my hobbies it's called having GAS (Guitar Acquisition Syndrome). Could apply to any hobby. The wider ramifications are interesting to ponder but it's the effect upon ourselves, the individual hobbyist, that can be a worry and does warrant some introspection. in the end whatever we use our spare time for would, preferably, provide enjoyment and not so much impose layers of anxiety. I appreciate you spending the time to discuss the matter.
I may be on the younger side of things (queue Dennis from Holy Grail voice: i'm 37), and somewhat recently returned to the hobby, so my stash is still roughly equal to my completed shelf (bout 30 kits on the shelf done, bout 25-30 kits in the stash). One thing i will say from returning, and going to my local model club meetings, is there are some people who more or less just collect kits. One member of my local club, has probably over 2500 kits. He will go to a local show, see a 48 scale SBD divebomber, and buy it, only to get home and see, "well shoot, i had 11 of this exact kit before the show already" (he is a bit older and memory isnt the best, but we can chalk that up to a life in the army) I do think to an extent, the model companies do bear some (small) responsibility for the state of our stashes. Now hear me out before grabbing the pitchforks, please. We all know and love certain subjects. And many times, companies just simply remove a subject from its production catalog. Doesnt seem to have a rhyme or reason, it just happens. I know my 2nd stint back in the hobby, i was buying up Porsche 956 kits as much as i could. They were out of production and hard to find! So, we have become so used to this idea of "well, i better buy this kit now, incase the model company decides to just remove it, so i can build it later" now, obviously that doesnt apply to hobby "staples" (ya know, spitfire, p-51 mustang, Sherman tanks, Tiger I's, those sort of big name kits that every brand makes), but it very much applies to even slightly niche subjects.
Yes I snap up rare or limited edition kits too… but when your stash is bloated in hundreds or even thousands of kits, I think it’s time to take a reality check.
Love your comments on the subject. I admit to having a stash, mainly to get the model that I want to build before they get hard to find. I will by three or four models at a time either to save on postage or because the nearest hobby shop that is not a general toy shop is 200km away. Its funny though that having a "stash" is considered selfish where for most other products such as china figurines, jewellry, watches, etc its called collecting and is perfectly acceptable. I guess life is full of inconsistencies.
Love the video mate, I'm doing the opposite. I'm trying my best to get a stash of models. I spent over 20 years in the military, never built a model. Now I'm out I have a lot of catching up to do. I have less than 30 models in my stash, trying to increase this with aircraft (Aussie aircraft) and Aussie trucks and cars. Trying to set my shed up for model building now that I have more time. Maybe one day I'll have to many to build !!
Hiya Harry, guilty as charged, yes I was a terrific hoarder but was found out during a house move three years ago. My loft was full of kits squirreled away over the previous thirty years, I had to store them in the garages of my two sons (bless 'em) until I could decide what to do with them all. The wife convinced me that it would be impossible for me to build them in my lifetime and so most of them were ruthlessly disposed of on the bay of evil. I now have a small stash of kits , which is being added to occasionally but steadily, I really am trying.
Hello Harry. I agree with you completely. Model touts charging extortionate prices and preventing me from getting the kits i want to build for my collections.
I am only returning to kit building after being away from it for 50 years, and already I have 3 kits! They are special, to me at least, an easy one, an intermediate one and a tough one. Hopefully, that will do...I hope. But anyways, only 3 kits here....for now....😥
@@HarryHoudiniModels Also picked up a starter kit of tools. I never had fancy air guns and things back in the day, everything was hand painted. Last model I remember doing was a Bentley back in the 70s. I think you did a video on it, a kit from '71? So long ago now, I wonder what happened to it. Lost in multiple house moves I guess over the years, but at least I still listen to Led Zeppelin! 😁
What a refreshing video. I recently returned to the hobby after a 50 year interval, and it's so easy to get drawn in to buying for buying' s sake. I used to collect records, so I know the insanity of collecting; buying stuff and keeping it sealed because you don't want to taint the item by unwrapping it, having duplicates and triplicates of exactly the same thing. It's nuts. I try to resist buying kits for the sake of it, but I'm afraid i weaken at times, so the stash slowly grows. I always enjoy your videos Harry, even though I'm very jealous of your skills. Keep up the good work.
Stashes can save a build......lose or damage a piece...hey no problem.....I have an extra kit ! Stashes are fun to look at ......completing collections of various types and having the choice to build what ever interests you at that point in time is a great thing. I have found that purchasing other peoples stashes is a very economical way to get what you want at sometimes give away $$$. Extras that I have no interest in are traded off or sold at shows.
This is so very much “The Truth”. I recently gave several away to a local charity and have decided to “Thin the Stash out” including corgi stuff that rarely catches the light of day, great channel, subbed.
I think this has been made more common for at least a couple of reasons. Yes, I, like many on here and other modelling sites who are getting on a bit, we are building to relive building some of those kits we made as youngsters, a sort of three dimensional nostalgia. But I also feel that many kits these days only come out for a limited period, unlike when I was a kid, and the local shops or Woolworths had the full range of Airfix, Frog or Revell in stock. So people buy them now because they fear a model will vanish from the range.
Very true Michael. I was lucky to get my stash of Wingnut Wings kits at reasonable prices before they shut down. Now they worth double or more than what I paid for them. So are nearly irreplaceable for most modellers.
Great video Harry, excellent topic. Since I've been back in the hobby, I have worked very hard to keep my stash to a minimum. So far, I have not collected beyond my life expectancy, hopefully... I also do not have anything that rare or anything folks can't find. I did have a couple, one I built and the other I gave to a good friend and he built it. I agree with you, it would be a shame for these kits to end up in the trash because someone doesn't know the value. Thanks for the video, have a great week. -David
Thanks David… Yes it is a struggle to keep the stash at a reasonable level. You never know when those cupholders will be released and you just have to buy one!
Thanks Harry you make a lot of sense and most of us who love this hobby have way too many kits. After looking at this video I will think twice before buying that new Panther.
New subscriber here from the US. I with you on the stash, mine is well over 400 and I'll NEVER have time to build them all. I do support the local Hobby Lobby and have purchased 6 or 8 of the new Airfix kits in 1/72 & 1/48. Great kits with the exception of the Bf-109-G6, no cockpit at all. I know it was a bit of tongue in cheek but us stash collectors do help keep this dying hobby alive. Last year I bought the outstanding 1/48 Tamiya P38 F/G and it's probably the most amazing model kit I've ever purchased and I don't normally buy Tamiya. Sad to say my children would have the ones to throw the kits in the trash until I told them what it was worth, that changed their minds somewhat. Hopefully my wife will never find out how much I paid for that little Pyro Roman Merchant Ship lol.
Nice video! My stash has never been "huge" but at around 30 model kits I felt really overwhelmed by it - I've now slimmed it down to 14 and I feel SO much better for it! I'm trying for the foreseeable to only buy kits if I am going to put them on the bench straight away and build them too. If you find yours is too big I'd be more than happy to relieve you of your Wingnut Wings kits though, haha!
I have already whittled the Wingnut Wings down from about 3 dozen to under 10 kits I really want to build, But time marches on and who knows, maybe one day I will simply sell it all when my eyes fail me and my wobbly hands just can’t cope with the parts anymore.
Yes the stats from Scalemates can include paints, aftermarket, and tools Mal… so could be a little skewed. But it was fun to think of over 3 million kits waiting to be built.
Thanks August, I like to chat about things that I enjoy or experience in the hobby, so it’s great if others also get where I am coming from. Good on you matey
I think you are pretty spot on about this....I have a very small stash-less than 20-but I have a great amount of books and reference material. All of this will come in handy for my Viking Funeral! Where can I find a 1:1 Viking Long Boat??? Model on👍👍👍
Ha ha good one Michael. Many thought I had a model shop when I had the stash behind me in my all my videos years ago. With it all neatly ordered and sorted into brands. Many got jealous and upset that I had too many kits. So I stopped showing them in my videos.
My stash stands at 25 of which 2 are under construction ... i am looking forward to "gift receiving" season in the hope i might get to a stash of 30 ... great video Harry
I can relate, Harry - when I was a kid, the 'stash' was the one and only kit I could afford - but since I returned to the hobby 40 years since I last glued my fingers together, I now have 2 dozen kits 'waiting'.... With very few exceptions, they are ALL RN Fleet Air Arm aircraft, but since I only picked the tools up again in June and have just finished model #7, I think my stash is appropriate... Unless, of course, I can find more unusual RN aircraft....
Thank you very much for this video. Indeed the « Stash » is a problem. Kits start piling up very quickly and we tend to spend more time in detailing kits as we move through building kits. Besides, I am realizing that I have lost pleasure detailing too much. I have never collected too many after-market items. All the decals and resins are packed in a shoe box. Interestingly, I feel more guilty of having too many kits than not having enough, therefore I am doing away with many of them. Most of the kits I have are old, secondhand kits as I enjoy building old kits.
Really happy about this video. The hobby community is far larger and more content than showing off kits and how to paint a panzer for the hundredth time. We need to talk about these topics for our own sake. We stash and stash, dreaming to build the kit that shows on the box art…. As if it will happen in a weekend. Takes weeks or months to build something half decent and we don’t have the luxury of endless time. Myself I had over 65 kits at one point…I’m 49…. I realised I will never finish them all…. Sold the lot and bought back 10 that I really really want to build (not that I just want to have) and I’m keeping it that way…. Best thing I ever did. Now I’m hungry for building more and buying something I really want to build next. I leave the fancy stash for those that sees the hobby in a different way.
I recently got back into modeling. I chose aircraft. I went with 1/72, built a Spitfire and a P51 Mustang both are Airfix. Some people complaine about airfix but I fine the kits so far are pretty good , yeah sure the need a little cleaning up. As a kid I built so many kits. Aircraft, vehicle's, and armor, never got ships though. By the way I just came across your channel, Great channel, will tune in again.
Got around 150 kits in my stash and l'm retired and not far off 70 . l get a real buzz going on E.Bay and looking at models , choosing one or more , ordering them , waiting for them to arrive in the post and opening the parcel and perusing the model . The only drawback is that l only average a couple of kits built , painted and completed in a week so l keep buying ,the stash gets bigger and bigger and being old realising the chances are l will never build them all and the more l buy the more snowed under l get . Then l tell myself that's it no more kits, be happy with the one's l 've got and then hey presto ! l,m back on E. Bay again buying more . Good video Harry . Greetings from Pommie land . Take care .
All true, I have so much stash and too little time left. One solution I've found is gifting chunks of my stash to young model builders, and selling some. I met the son of an in-law a few years back who was a rabid armor fan and have sending him kits and bits, and hobby books ever since. Previously I've sold most of my stash twice in my lifetime, always managing to acquire more than I had before. Even buying some of the same kits I'd sold off - that's an addiction! It's is a very good feeling when you have parted with something that you value, especially when you know it's going to someone who will value as you did.
It is a problem, but looks like you have a few solutions. Scalemates tells me I bought about $35,000 worth of kits in the last decade, sold $20,000, with the balance under construction, finished, or given away. Frightening numbers!
For me I’m worried about what will happen to all my half finished kits. I’ve cleaned out a house full of my mother in law’s decades worth of unfinished ambitions. It’s an informative exercise about how one might live and weigh one’s own finiteness. It’s a lot easier to want to do something than it is to actually do it, or even find time to start. So I’ve been paring away my stash and being strategic about keeping projects moving forward. But life is life.
Thanks Harry, my childhood modelling was the same. Thanks for the memories. As for stashes, I’m guilty as well. I agree with your comments, it is selfish. My stash beats the local hobby shop here in Toowoomba, because I’ll build it someday apparently. I know that is unlikely, so why buy it, because it is bright and shiny. So getting towards retirement, my wife wants to downsize, so stash is really impractical even if built 20 kits a year. I build 4-6 on average. I know when I pass on, my stash will either go to tip or charity as a donation. I too have some rare or expensive kits. As for the built kits, the tip. Will I be able to care? No. So I guess I better downsize the stash… Thanks for sharing Harry, I enjoyed the video.
I'm trying to only buy kits right now that I want that are out of production, unless I see one I want at a good price, it adds up quickly! My advice would be to wait on common kits to prevent your stash from getting way out of control. I'm at a little over 100 kits in 3 years and finding myself having to sell some unfortunately. Great topic!
Brilliant Harry, really funny but serious points excellently communicated. Much agreement here👍🏼 One point I would say though is that maybe folks having stashes ++ might be a reason why kit companies can readily fund R&D and so we can get more diverse kits down the road. Just a thought mate
I'm 61 and eyeing retirement, and like other old farts here looking to my childhood and getting back into modelling. My question is, what do you do with the models you've built? Store them and cycle through displaying a few? If so, how do you store them? I can see myself working my way through WWII aircraft and armour and I'm not sure where I'd put them all.
I rotate my display from built kits in storage.. often putting in a newly finished model and pulling out one I have had on display for a while. This keeps my view of completed kits interesting and my visitors get to see something new each time they come over.
I get 20 litre plastic tubs from the dollar shop… then keep my larger models in them wrapped in tissues. For the smaller models I used some compartment trays I found at a Hardware Store. They were for electrical parts, but make great storage containers for tanks and small aircraft. I was also gifted a large jewellers display box, which is perfect for my longer battleship models.
I have plasterboard walls and ceilings so make a little slit and with a little glue stick wing tips in them,can pretty much have them in any position but once done there’s no going back.I live at the sea side in Kent ,England.These last few days I have been watching the sky puzzling on how to paint Battle of Britain sky on my bed room ceiling,yep I’m 54 and live alone,living the dream
Hi Harry I really didn't get back into modeling until the beginning of the pandemic. I started out with 1/72 and was only getting reasonably priced kits. As time went on and I really began researching the kits, I started to get kits I felt I needed. Then it became getting kits to supplement what I already had. With the raises I have been getting the last four years, I have begun moving into 1/48 and 1/32 scale kits. It's pricey, but has led to me getting kits I would never have imagined I could purchase. I feel you are right and I need to trim my 1/72 scale pile. Moving into the bigger scale has quickly filled up multiple spaces and led to a storage issue. My daughter has developed an interest in building, so I suspect she will get my larger scale kits since she dislikes the 1/72 scale intensely.
When I was young all I built were 1/72 aircraft or 1/600 ships from Airfix. Now I can have great big 1/32 planes and 1/350 or even 1/200 battleships! But as you say, where do we store them and where can we display them when made? It’s become absurd.
I've just sold off 63 kits from my stash, I had to make a realistic decision on what I could reasonably build, and display, and all all my Tamiya 1/350 ship kits were the first to go. Additionally, at 64 and retired, I still can't seem to find as much time for modelling as I'd like, and, I've got 4 builds sitting around waiting to be finished for one reason or another.
I sold my stash of models off about 15 years ago as I found I had kits that I hadn't started in 10 years . I now have 5 in the loft that I plan to do and one being made. This I find keeps the wife happy and keeps the choice of what I want to build next as that can be problematic if you have more kits than my local model shop.
Very interesting topic Harry, and very valid points raised. I personally collect a lot of kits that are more obscure than your standard items in the aid of making sure I have the availability to make that subject if I want to in the future, so I think FOMO plays a part in it. I think there’s probably an element of ‘model shop nostalgia’ in there somewhere as well, when you see all the boxes stacked together on multiple shelves, and in general it’s fun to collect things. I also think one of the main reasons why the collection/build ratio is bad is because when you buy the kit your brain has a blank cheque with you thinking “ah yes I’ll be able to build this in this way and make a cool project out of it”, but then when you actually get it you’ve gotta put a lot of effort into it so it becomes a lot easier to park it and think - “oh ill get around to it in the future” …at least that’s what I do sometimes :)
Hilarious Harry - Your comments are bang on - I'm getting back into the hobby and amazed at how people are so enamored with the different variants of some military models like Lancaster's bombers for example. Some modelers view the different versions (A/B/C/D/F/Late/Early) of the Lancaster as completely different planes that need to be built. To me they are all just Lancasters.
I'm a bit guilty of that to be honest :) I have a grand total of 5 in my stash :) 3 lancs in total 2 Tamiya 1/48 Lancs variants and one 1.72 Airfix one.
Hi Harry I love my big stash that mostly now consist of old classic kit's from Matchbox, Airfix and Esci,I build some,I like the box art,Roy Cross etc,my kids know what they would be worth when I drop off the perch. Keep up the great work cobba.
Great video. I build for myself, when complete i give them to the charity shop. I have what I wanted to pick up, I only collect tall ships. The prices have gone through the roof and some of them you can't get anymore. I'm glad I picked them up when I did. Not sure there is enough of them to call a stash, maybe 20. I only manage to complete one every 2/3 years or so due to work and life. When I retire I hope to get through them all. If I peg it before they are complete, they are to go to charity.
I have currently a grand total of 02 (two) started kits and an actual stash of 0 (zero). I hope I can soon get to the ideal state of buying a kit, building a kit, then buying a new one, etc. I like your videos because you echo my perspective on the whole hobby. It's supposed to be fun. It's supposed to be a thing you do when you're *not* being a serious and professional adult. And we're suppose to actuallly *build* the kits, not pile them into a totem of abundance. And I'm not even a boomer.
Another thought-provoking topic from you, Harry. You make a lot of sense here and we shouldn’t buy kits on a whim. But it can be irritating when you walk away from a kit, then later decide you do want it, and it has become hard to find or the price has gone through the roof. Anyway, I hope to build most of the kits in my stash before I shuffle off this mortal coil. What happens to them after that, well … I’ll be past caring. I hope they will go to someone who appreciates them as much as I do, but that would be out of my hands so no point worrying about it. We are only really ever in charge of our own happiness. 😅
A major issue with having a stash, for me anyway, is the difficulty in staying focused on, and enthusiastic about, the kit in front of me when there are hundreds of others calling out 'build me, build me!'. My completion rate is....not good.....
This was a very interesting topic Harry. Like a lot of modellers, I have quite a few kits sitting on the shelf waiting patiently for attention. However, like yourself I am self employed, and also like a lot of people, my income is now very patchy thanks to the Covid issues that are still affecting my work. I am also a ‘slow’ modeller due to spending every hour I have working, when it is available. However I still have the ‘I need that kit’ problem that you illustrate so clearly, and unless I get more time for my modelling, I can see my stash getting bigger. I think this is a problem that’s lot of casual modellers have. In saying that, I also agree that having a huge collection of kits on the shelf, in numbers that you know that you will never build, is a bit crazy. I am in my early 70’s and probably will not get the chance to complete the kits I already have, so commonsense must prevail. Your thoughts on this subject really opened my eyes to that fact, and prompts me to change my ways somewhat. Great discussion mate. Looking forward to your next bench session. Cheers from south of the border!
this is such a TRUTH in modelling. I have moved through a number of genres during my life; mostly model railway where there are three categories - Modellers, Operators and Collectors. The same can be said for Scale modelling too. There are modellers (those who build models as they go), collectors (those who buy kits but rarely build kits - the stash hoarders) and a group in between. Just think though, if we didn't't have collectors then we wouldn't have buy and sell events.... Having said that I think the stash is NOT bad for the hobby as it means kits are being bought and therefore the Tamiya's and Airfix's of the world will continue to make more and improve more which is good for the hobby. So in the end, the hobby is in a reasonably good state and will continue to do so.
Got back into the hobby about 2-1/2 years ago. I still had an old stash of about a dozen models I never got rid of through 7 moves over 40 years. I have finally gotten through all but 1 of the original dozen. But I have also purchased at least two dozen more in the past 2-1/2 years so I doubled my stash. While not a large stash it's more than enough to keep me busy.
I have a stash of about 100 kits, mainly armor, with some monster and sci fi. I don’t buy because it’s so new, I mainly buy kits I’ve always wanted. I find a new one every few months, but not very often. I have more than I will ever be able to build in my late life, which means I’m much more selective. I really enjoy the ones I build. I love your comments on this subject.
Understand and agree on acquiring those historical wants - spent ages re-buying kits from my childhood and then getting the kits I wanted (but didn't get) from the same period. Thereafter it's been mainly new kit FOMO as it's very rare that they get cheaper the older those kits get. At the end of the day, it's a hobby, whether it's building or collecting- just enjoy it!
What's the difference between building the kit and having it thrown in the trash when you croak or having a boxed kit thrown in the trash when you croak?????!!!!!!! Anyone who collects things leaves a potential burden for those left behind (or those having to sort you out when your kit has more dribble on it than glue!) - that's just the way it is! Anyway, an unmade kit does have the option of being resold. I keep a list of my kits with the prices paid and my wife / kids can, as you say, decide on whether to sell individually on ebay or find a clearing house to take the whole lot.... It's a good job you on the other side of the world Harry - otherwise I'd come round and confiscate your shelf (sorry but it's not enough to be called a stash!!!) and hold it for you - giving you a kit from it when you finish the one you've got (I.e Stingray) 😊
For me the problem is - to much kits in the stash. First I realised, that I have not the time to build all of my 256 kits in my lifetime. Second, not the room to display them. I bought all of them with the intension do build them. And there are no doubles. It is hard for me not to buy something new and to decide, wich kits I will build in the next years and which of them must go...
I store many of my built models then just rotate them in my display cabinets every 6 months or so. Just keeping the newest builds, or my favourites on display at any one time.
my stash is way too big (around 250 kits) and I currently don't have a confortable place to construct and paint them, sigh. I have no idea, why I got all of them, but partially I blame the amazing kit box art and the models that you can't find anymore, some since the 70s. Also, once you get into the flow of hunting down the models you want to have, and struggling to find the best prices, it becomes highly addictive to buy the models instead of building them. And ironically I don't even like to sell stuff, cause it's kinda too complicated of a process from my small European country. I also have some pretty rare ones. But to think soon will everyone have his own hi res 3d printer and they will just print them at home for ultra cheap.
Great video, Harry. My stash as of right now is 4 kits. My wish list,well, that's different . But there are some cars that may be multiple buys. Like 1966-69 Pontiacs GTOs. Or 1955,56,57 Chevy Belairs. But I understand what you are saying about stashes getting too big. When you got talking about your Wingnut wings ,I went and checked them out. The list price is around $200 USD. Then I found out that the company has gone out of business. And for they younger generation, not wanting to do modeling ,it is probably due to it being considered outdated and not whizbang high tech. Plus, they probably did not have anyone to get them started in it. Take care, and hopefully, you will be around for a while to share your thoughts and modeling with us.
I bought a lot of my Wingnut Wings kits for $50 or less when they first came out… the most I spent was just over $100 USD for the Gotha, but then realised it was just too big for me to build or display. So I put it on eBay, before WNW shut down mind you, and the bidding went up to $600. Crazy!
I've been building since the early 60s. My stash of 400 or so kits are mostly kits from the 50s-70s , all old friends really. Some I build others are for looking at I get a lot of joy out of having a little hobby shop in my basement.
Very interesting and valid points made in this video. My take is that when we do pass on to the great glue god in the sky, our better halves, siblings, relatives etc, will donate to St. Vinny’s or the same and some one will come across the greatest heaven on earth. I’m sure many of us out there have experienced an occasion when we’ve happened upon a treasure trove. My recent experience was a small book shop with hundreds of Commando comics. My enthusiasm was too much for the poor shop keeper that she couldn’t price them quickly enough what she had recently in stock for me to buy them. I was tormented by waiting weeks before I could buy some more and fearing that someone would beat me to “my precious”. My dream was fulfilled once I double checked my Excel spread sheet and ticked off what I needed for the collection. If we can give an unknown dying gift to a wanting stranger, is that not the best gift of all….
Good video, my wife would totally agree, when I met her I had tons of unbuilt Games Workshop kits. There was no way I was ever going to build all of them. Sold all of them at the local second hand store, to fund the move to Japan. Now I've just discovered Wingnut Wings. Yes I know late in the day! I was lucky to get on in a second hand store called Hardoff , here in Japan. Luckily the price was not so bad. Its a Camel ship version. I would like a couple more as I want the challenge to build them. Not buy to rip people off on Ebay with crazy prices that are making these kits only available to the rich, who lets face it won't bulid them , just have as an investment.
Entertaining and thought provoking. I feel there may be a flaw in your reasoning Harry but for the life of me I can’t figure out what it is. As a returnee to the hobby I’ve got five models in my stash; one paper (Schreiber-Bogen DH Dragon Rapide), one stick and tissue (Guillow’s DH Chipmunk) and three plastic (Airfix DH Tiger Moth, an Airfix DC-3 and an Eduard Hansa-Brandenberg). I’ve acquired all the tools and glues and paints but spend so much time watching Houdini waffle I’ve yet to build a single kit‼️🤪 Will probably start with the Tiger Moth and, thanks to you Harry, have a reduced chance of screwing it up.
I liked the video. I don't consider myself as having a "stash", but just a group of models I have not yet had the time to build. I like opening the boxes, looking at the parts, and planning the build. Will I ever get them all built? Not physically (i'm 63 and have far too many models), but mentally I have built them all numerous times. We all like the hobby for our own reasons. As far as what will happen to my kits when I croak, my wife says if I go first, she will have a big bonfire and invite the local model club over to watch LOL.
I like the concept of virtually building the kits in your mind… like an athlete visualising the task ahead and being the better for it. Great mind skills Gordon.
Excellently said HH. Many good points and we humans are surely very strange about things. Collecting is what we do, whatever it is, cars, real estate, wives and even some I hear great piles of cash. Thank you, take care and cheers mate.
I have around 340 in my stash including starts (120 or so) and I'm resigned to the fact I'll not only never complete them all it's unlikely I'll complete what I've started. And that's just fine because creativity is a process and an end in itself, not merely a means to an end--a finished product. As for Scalemates, I love the site and I've never had any problems there. Everyone is very polite and supportive. And with that, I'll go back to building my Tamiya PzIVF. I needed a return to sanity after dealing with that Border Type VIIc. I don't don't know how Border could over AND underengineer a kit at the same time, so I needed a break.
At 32, I have a stash big enough to start my own hobby shop. However, in a issue of IPMS magazine I read an article about having a stash of models. It's not always about hoarding models, but that a stash of models can be a source of inspiration. Even though you might not build every model in your stash, you might look at the box of one of your stashed away models and it brings some inspiration for a current build. So that's how I justify my pile of shame. I do agree though it's a bit questionable when people buy many versions of the same subject. Then again who am I to tell people how to spend their money. If it makes you happy, then by all means enjoy it. A drug addiction would be cheaper at this point haha
You make a valid point, Harry. Without being insensitive, I have "dealt" with the stash issue by making a Will and appointing Executors who know how to deal with the stash. Firstly in these inflationary times, I view the stash as an investment. Just look how Wingnut Wings prices have gone through the roof. And by making it known to the Executors that it is an investment they will realise the value appropriately.
Selling my WNW kits did fund me during the times I could not find contract work. Luckily I had bought all those kits when they were affordable and sold at less than the crazy prices on Evil bay these days, but still made a healthy profit.
49 years old here. Took a 10 year break while in the Army. 25 kits in the stash with 7 pontos upgrade sets. I have a crap ton on my wish list though but I do plan to work the stash down to about 10 before adding anything new. I have 1 daughter who isn't into ships at all and no grandkids in my future so I'm certain that when I take my dirt nap that anything in my stash and all my built kits will go to the bin.
I have a rule that if i buy a kit, i have to build one from the stash, to make room. Granted, i have less than 20 kits, but it keeps me honest and building!
Hi, I have a fairly big stash although I like to think I don't fall into the 'wanting cup holders' clan. If I buy anything it's usually secondhand and always a preferred subject, not just for the sake of buying it. I also don't feel the need to build multiples of the same subject, like various Spitfires, one Spitfire is enough for me.
There is also the problem that we have our own desire, addiction, around kits: "Oooohh!! I like that one ... " etc. My stash is rediculous... and just gone up by 5 or 6 more. Who the hell cares, enjoy the hobby in your own why. Abd I've still got to convert the "spare room" into my model-making den; and, I've only been chasing that dream for ... It's part of the hobby and like I said "who the hell cares ... as long as it makes you happy! Enjoy the hobby and your time in/doing it. It's like sex: you always want more, with ever more bigger or exotic models - so you indulge in what you can get!! Keep modelling Harry or doing the other exotic modelling; ... when you can!!!
I slashed my stash over the past dozen years because I knew there was no way that I could finish all of them even if I lived another hundred years. It's still too big and I still get the occasional new kit, but things are much more under control.
I don't buy a kit because of the 'latest-greatest' craze ... I get a diorama/vignette in mind and buy the kits I envision making the scene , or plan a project around a kit I like ... so now I've got a shed full of kits that , if/when I get to them will fill a museum
I am in a similar situation. A Baby Boomer with 100s of kits in my stash. Some are Out of Production (OOP) but my intention is to slowly build them (not all of them). The vintage and rare ones are kept aside; in the event of my death, I have instructed my next of kin to sell them on eBay. Another way of financially supporting my family.
You sound well organised Eric. I previously made a video discussing what happens to your stash when you are gone, but just about all my friends wanted to be buried with their kits! Selfish buggas.
Got about 225 in the stash. In my defence, I knew I was moving to a country where shipping was more than the kit. Five years on and have completed 75! So I'm good said the guy who just bought a Ki-21.
When i was a teen in the late 70's , i had a mate (wow!), same age as me, who had over two hundred kits that he would not build, it drove me nuts! I used to get em home and they would be built that night and painted by the next day! I still have a modest stash of about 20 and i mean to build em all! Cheers Harry!
As usual you bring a smile to one’s face. The Spitfire cup holder add ons will send the stash builders apoplectic with envy and into another buying frenzy no doubt. It is a vicious circle as you highlight but do the stash builders actually stimulate the manufacturers and thus give the hobby the benefit of the range and depth of new releases (or re-releases)? Hence stash = market thus we all benefit. Stashers keep stashing and us micro-stashers get all the benefits and none of the vast expense. Perhaps a slightly parochial stance but it is a broad church hobby. Great content as always. Best wishes.
I took some liberty with the economics for comedic purposes, but high demand means more product, and as always, prices go up as you make the product more complex.
Sooo recognizable...started in the 60s too. Stash? Wazzat? Almost made it before coming home from the shop...Then the pause. 40 odd years and now I suffer the same problem, but...because I can. Have the finances needed and afraid I can't get the model anymore if i don't get it right away...
I have eight kits in my stash! Still having problems 😅 I only have one Spitfire (Tamiya 1/32 Mk IX) HKM Noseart Lanc 1/32 Airfix 1/72 Vulcan Tamiya 1/48 Dornier do335 Tamiya 1/48 Corsair ICM 1/32 Gloster Gladiator Dora Wings 1/48 Morane Saulnier 230 Miniart 1/35 Austin Armoured Car Went to a kit store in town... Owner said he had come across 200 1/72 aircraft kits from some guy who needed to empty his stash. He had died 🤪
In photography they call it GAS - Gear Acquisition Syndrome. I don't have the space for a stash or even the kits I do build. I just enjoy the process and give them away after a while
Just today, I went to a model show and came home with 3 more old kits. When I got home, I added them to my stash and told myself to stop buying more and more kits that are going to set around for God knows how long.
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My daughter sent me a pic of a Bill board outside a craft shop. Unfortunately I'm not smart enough to import, copy ,paste etc so here's what it said. " A new study shows that people that have a ridiculous amount of Craft Supplies, live longer than people who point it out." If that's the case then I'm going to live to a very ripe old age.
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Goodness… well unlike my Tamiya videos… no death threats yet Nick!
Im not sure ill ever stop collecting models. Regardless if i even get to them. I just love having them and having the "option" of building what I want.
If you get enjoyment from your stash, then all power to you brother
I have been minimizing my stash. I didn’t just want the models to go to other stashes so have been seeking out newer builders just starting out.
I give the models for a cut rate deal (even free) but make them promise this will be built. I also state the goal is to finish at their level, you only learn by trying. Even if it isn’t painted try it.
Cheers, Mark
Excellent idea Mark
@@HarryHoudiniModelsexactly..there is a world of difference between "needing" and "wanting"... want a ferrari?....yes but do i need one?....no..
As a corollary, most immediately look up the cost of the model, state it is too expensive and say they will wait to build once they have the skills. I point out they have the model for next to nothing and (previous of your topics) it is better to start learning with a good kit. Just build IT.
Thanks for the video! My wife just inherited her father's collection of 300+ vintage RC Plane model kits. I can't believe this video exists. I feel attacked on Hank's behalf. Although we are not planning to stash them, we'll be putting most on Ebay, and the others we'll be donating. I was actually researching the Sterling Models/George Harris Spitfire from the collection today. Seems like Hank was a big fan of the Spitfire as well, I think there were a few others from other manufacturers.
No Attack… I was mostly talking about my own problems.. any similarities to persons living or undead is merely coincidence
I'm hearing you. I don't need more kits!
I need to finish the one's I've got!
Easy to say but so hard to put in practice matey
Thanks for this video. The best way I have heard it put is " we buy these kits, thinking we are buying the time to build them" anyway....time to get back to building those kits!
Interesting way to look at it… so if I buy more kits, I need to live longer!
When I got my first real job at 16, I was buying kits left right and center.
Didnt get to building really, well building yes but not painting, thats what I dislike the most.
Havent finished a kit in years due to depression, other things taking up my time or short, life getting in the way.
I really enjoy the hobby but at the same time, it's stressing me out. Like you said "yeah you need xyz or the kit is wrong". Knew a guy that said unless you get xyz, I wont even look at your kit, because I know its wrong. He was ex military and about as old as you, different generation and perspective I guess.
But you're right, I remember going to the hobby shop, as a kid, buying a kit, being super happy, over the moon and just building it and enjoying it.
That magic is gone.
It's time to thin the stash, thank you for this video that gave me some insight.
I hear you because I'm exactly the same, as I kid I enjoyed building hundreds of kits and I never painted them, just moved on to the next one, cheap small scale kits all of them.
Now I have to paint them and do all the decals, which is rewarding and allows you to keep the final build or it would hit the bin.
Stressful nonetheless, I spend 25% of my time building and the rest is painting all the big and all the little things out of necessity, constantly worrying not to make a mistake and ruin the build.
There's no way around it, all the nice kits are too expensive to just build and put aside/throw away afterwards.
I've had depression - it was ******* awful! I suggest you start a new kit, finish it AND PAINT IT! - that will definitely help! Just know that you're not alone and this too shall pass; though it may need some welly, energetic progress in absolutely any direction -good luck and keep watching old Harry - he'll cheer you up!
Good on you Duncan…. thanks for watching
Hello, enjoyed the directness and laughed a few times. Thank you. I’ve made a Will, in it to leave any models made or unmade to my Model Club and Model Railway Club.
Good plan Aaron
Hey Harry, George from the USA. I have the same problem you have. I have about 275 kits in my stash and I am 61 years old. I realize that the numbers don't add up. I will not live long enough to finish my stash. I worh as a library aid and because my wife has a lot of illnesses, instead of retiring next year, I will have to work until at least 70 years old (for the medical benefits). So i decided to do 2 programs for the library . The library I work at is attached to a middle school(grades 6-8). The first program is going to be for kids to learn the hobby. I will be bringing most of my stash to the program for kids to choose what topics they want to model. The next program will be for seniors and vets with (PTSD) and I will help them hopefully get past their physical and emotional problems. But understand Harry, with all that I will still have a stash but it will be a lot more manageable. Thanks for listening or reading. All the best and good luck eradicating the model horders world wide. P.S. Remember that old people like us model building is good for the dexterity of you hands and mind......Thanks
Yes scale modelling is a good way to keep your mind active as you get older…. but my eyes and hands just seem to have their own ideas on what is going on, Thanks for sharing George.
STash Acquired Beyond Life Expectancy - STABLE stash.
I have kits in a stash - some I have taken ages to find and collect. For example, I have two Battlestar Galactica ships form the 80's that took years to find, and I will light and build them when i get round to it. I have recently bought an R2D2 THAT IS NEARLY AS OLD AS I AM (not quite) but has taken me 8 years to find at a reasonable cost. If I left it longer I would miss the opportunity. I aim to build them all, but also like to read instructions, so they are all open. I don't think I am unreasonable - although the wife would disagree - its my money.
Also, the rose coloured glasses kick in. I have wanted a Short Sunderland for years as I built one when younger and seeing you build one has scratched that itch - so if you want to build an Airfix RAF rescue launch, that would also save me buying one. :)
Keep up the good work!
So if I build a kit, then no one else needs to? I’m providing a community service to reduce stash tension. Brilliant!
That was a fun video! Thank you! Only 150? I asked my wife what she would do with my stash if I suddenly "kicked the bucket", without hesitation she replied she would have those things at the dump so fast and wouldn't think twice about it!
Down to 130 now after I sold off some submarines I will never build and my friend Becker made an offer I could not refuse on a few of my Wingnut Wings kits I’d probably never get around to making.
Now i feel glad that i just decided yesterday to not get more kits into my stash untill i built like at least one 3rd of it. Lets see for how long i can hold on to it😄
That’s a good ambition Chris… I tried having to build 2 kits before I could buy a new one and that worked for a while.
A while back I bought 20 armored model kits from a toy store that was going out of business. The discounts were 50% to 70% off. I gave all of them to my younger brother so that he could build them with his son. When I recently retired and went to visit him in Florida, he told me his son wasn’t really interested in building the models so he stored them all in the attic of his house. For 41 years. He gave them back to me and I set up a table and in the last couple of months I’ve built 3 of the kits. It’s been absolutely wonderful for a hobby at my age because I can finally afford all the paints, airbrush with compressor, nice brushes, etc. and build them the way I’ve always dreamed of. Cheers.
Thanks for your story T Rex… It is great that after 4 decades you got those kist back and can now enjoy them.
Greetings from the UK, Harry. Great video and I can relate tp almost everything you've said! Started in the late 60s-early 70s, buy one, built one, discovered fishing, beer, girls etc etc. Stopped, got dumped started again, stopped when I got married and had kids, started again and haven't stopped!
I've a stash, along with almost everyone. Mines quite modest, just shy of 160. BUT I've mainly been buying for my retirement, cos these things won't get any cheaper. I mostly model ww2 German what ifs and the chassis I use is the Tamiya PzIV Ausf D, I've 6 of those because its cheap! I also like the PzIV because it was made throughout the war and used for so many specialist vehicles as well as the various marks and my intention is to get a complete set of the special purpose tanks and a representative collection of the gun tanks along with my whatiffery.
But just as I think I've got every one, someone will post an oddity, I've got to scratchbuild! The latest is a post war PzIV with a crane instead of a turret, so thats a scratchbuild added to the list! Still, that's my plan! As to when I shuffle of this mortal coil, well, my youngest daughter is a modeller and will take the pick of the stash and the rest will be sold, donated to models for heroes, or given to a charity shop.
Thanks again for the video, and I'll be watching your😊 previous ones.
Keep safe, matey.
Good on your Greg.. at least you have a modelling daughter who can continue on your lagacy.
I just found your channel and I’m a younger modeler. I’ve been thinking about this as well as my stash has gotten larger. I’m proud of my moderation and It’s really the only thing I do hoard. You’re absolutely right and I think what you said here are all things that need to be said. Like, we should feel called out on this. I know I got kits on the cheap from other people who passed away and it was their family getting rid of things. I have all the kits that I’ve wanted and I’m grateful for that. Like I have rare things that some others might think are stupid but I think they’re cool. I also have things that I just got because I could. Now I’m at a point where there’s very few things that I want and they’re very specific like the Dragon 1/350 HMS Nelson they announced this time a year ago. Or if an Airfix HMS Prince finally shows up in my neck of the woods. I was proud of myself that I downsized and sold kits to folks who all built them and it was so wonderful hearing back from them and having them share their builds with me.
It is very rewarding to pass on a kit you have left languished on the shelf then see the excitement and enthusiasm of the new owner. They are meant to be built. Not collected.
Thank you Harry for sharing your thoughts with us.
Some half a year ago I also was thinking of reducing that stock. But later I forgot about it due to work in my job and a girl I met...
As an Aquarius such problems for me are even more severe, as I tend to start something then leave it beside, not completed, just to start something else I find more interesting at the moment. And modeling isn't all, unfortunately, as I also own a few hundred books, many of which I never read and perhaps never will...
Thank you very much for remembering me of these "problems" again! I am 54 now and have to make space in my house!
I will do my best to sell lots of items next time to come to half of all of that!
I will, I swear!
Love and peace.
Thanks for sharing Maze… yes we do seem to acquire a lot of stuff in our second century and just can’t seem to throw it out
That's very true, Harry. In another of my hobbies it's called having GAS (Guitar Acquisition Syndrome). Could apply to any hobby. The wider ramifications are interesting to ponder but it's the effect upon ourselves, the individual hobbyist, that can be a worry and does warrant some introspection. in the end whatever we use our spare time for would, preferably, provide enjoyment and not so much impose layers of anxiety. I appreciate you spending the time to discuss the matter.
Thanks Doogle… in the end we must have fun, so if collecting kits gives you some joy, go for it.
I may be on the younger side of things (queue Dennis from Holy Grail voice: i'm 37), and somewhat recently returned to the hobby, so my stash is still roughly equal to my completed shelf (bout 30 kits on the shelf done, bout 25-30 kits in the stash).
One thing i will say from returning, and going to my local model club meetings, is there are some people who more or less just collect kits. One member of my local club, has probably over 2500 kits. He will go to a local show, see a 48 scale SBD divebomber, and buy it, only to get home and see, "well shoot, i had 11 of this exact kit before the show already" (he is a bit older and memory isnt the best, but we can chalk that up to a life in the army)
I do think to an extent, the model companies do bear some (small) responsibility for the state of our stashes.
Now hear me out before grabbing the pitchforks, please.
We all know and love certain subjects. And many times, companies just simply remove a subject from its production catalog. Doesnt seem to have a rhyme or reason, it just happens. I know my 2nd stint back in the hobby, i was buying up Porsche 956 kits as much as i could. They were out of production and hard to find! So, we have become so used to this idea of "well, i better buy this kit now, incase the model company decides to just remove it, so i can build it later" now, obviously that doesnt apply to hobby "staples" (ya know, spitfire, p-51 mustang, Sherman tanks, Tiger I's, those sort of big name kits that every brand makes), but it very much applies to even slightly niche subjects.
Yes I snap up rare or limited edition kits too… but when your stash is bloated in hundreds or even thousands of kits, I think it’s time to take a reality check.
Cheers Harry. Agree with you 100%. I have finally got to point that if I buy a kit I sell at least one.
Good method
Love your comments on the subject. I admit to having a stash, mainly to get the model that I want to build before they get hard to find. I will by three or four models at a time either to save on postage or because the nearest hobby shop that is not a general toy shop is 200km away. Its funny though that having a "stash" is considered selfish where for most other products such as china figurines, jewellry, watches, etc its called collecting and is perfectly acceptable. I guess life is full of inconsistencies.
If it makes you happy then all good to you matey… my video is mostly jokes and not to be taken as advice
Love the video mate, I'm doing the opposite. I'm trying my best to get a stash of models. I spent over 20 years in the military, never built a model. Now I'm out I have a lot of catching up to do. I have less than 30 models in my stash, trying to increase this with aircraft (Aussie aircraft) and Aussie trucks and cars. Trying to set my shed up for model building now that I have more time. Maybe one day I'll have to many to build !!
They soon pile up Mick… after a few years you will have hundreds
Hiya Harry, guilty as charged, yes I was a terrific hoarder but was found out during a house move three years ago. My loft was full of kits squirreled away over the previous thirty years, I had to store them in the garages of my two sons (bless 'em) until I could decide what to do with them all. The wife convinced me that it would be impossible for me to build them in my lifetime and so most of them were ruthlessly disposed of on the bay of evil. I now have a small stash of kits , which is being added to occasionally but steadily, I really am trying.
So squirrels collect kits too? I never knew
Hello Harry. I agree with you completely. Model touts charging extortionate prices and preventing me from getting the kits i want to build for my collections.
You got to be careful of those wide mouth trouts mate ;)
I am only returning to kit building after being away from it for 50 years, and already I have 3 kits! They are special, to me at least, an easy one, an intermediate one and a tough one. Hopefully, that will do...I hope. But anyways, only 3 kits here....for now....😥
It’s a start
@@HarryHoudiniModels Also picked up a starter kit of tools. I never had fancy air guns and things back in the day, everything was hand painted. Last model I remember doing was a Bentley back in the 70s. I think you did a video on it, a kit from '71? So long ago now, I wonder what happened to it. Lost in multiple house moves I guess over the years, but at least I still listen to Led Zeppelin! 😁
What a refreshing video. I recently returned to the hobby after a 50 year interval, and it's so easy to get drawn in to buying for buying' s sake. I used to collect records, so I know the insanity of collecting; buying stuff and keeping it sealed because you don't want to taint the item by unwrapping it, having duplicates and triplicates of exactly the same thing. It's nuts. I try to resist buying kits for the sake of it, but I'm afraid i weaken at times, so the stash slowly grows. I always enjoy your videos Harry, even though I'm very jealous of your skills. Keep up the good work.
Good on you Alan
Stashes can save a build......lose or damage a piece...hey no problem.....I have an extra kit ! Stashes are fun to look at ......completing collections of various types and having the choice to build what ever interests you at that point in time is a great thing. I have found that purchasing other peoples stashes is a very economical way to get what you want at sometimes give away $$$. Extras that I have no interest in are traded off or sold at shows.
Both valid points Nigel
This is so very much “The Truth”. I recently gave several away to a local charity and have decided to “Thin the Stash out” including corgi stuff that rarely catches the light of day, great channel, subbed.
Good on you Leddy… I often give away kits to kids and those just starting out in the hobby… helps encourage them
I think this has been made more common for at least a couple of reasons. Yes, I, like many on here and other modelling sites who are getting on a bit, we are building to relive building some of those kits we made as youngsters, a sort of three dimensional nostalgia. But I also feel that many kits these days only come out for a limited period, unlike when I was a kid, and the local shops or Woolworths had the full range of Airfix, Frog or Revell in stock. So people buy them now because they fear a model will vanish from the range.
Very true Michael. I was lucky to get my stash of Wingnut Wings kits at reasonable prices before they shut down. Now they worth double or more than what I paid for them. So are nearly irreplaceable for most modellers.
Great video Harry, excellent topic. Since I've been back in the hobby, I have worked very hard to keep my stash to a minimum. So far, I have not collected beyond my life expectancy, hopefully... I also do not have anything that rare or anything folks can't find. I did have a couple, one I built and the other I gave to a good friend and he built it. I agree with you, it would be a shame for these kits to end up in the trash because someone doesn't know the value. Thanks for the video, have a great week.
-David
Thanks David… Yes it is a struggle to keep the stash at a reasonable level. You never know when those cupholders will be released and you just have to buy one!
Thanks Harry you make a lot of sense and most of us who love this hobby have way too many kits. After looking at this video I will think twice before buying that new Panther.
well unless it has new cupholders?
New subscriber here from the US. I with you on the stash, mine is well over 400 and I'll NEVER have time to build them all. I do support the local Hobby Lobby and have purchased 6 or 8 of the new Airfix kits in 1/72 & 1/48. Great kits with the exception of the Bf-109-G6, no cockpit at all. I know it was a bit of tongue in cheek but us stash collectors do help keep this dying hobby alive. Last year I bought the outstanding 1/48 Tamiya P38 F/G and it's probably the most amazing model kit I've ever purchased and I don't normally buy Tamiya. Sad to say my children would have the ones to throw the kits in the trash until I told them what it was worth, that changed their minds somewhat. Hopefully my wife will never find out how much I paid for that little Pyro Roman Merchant Ship lol.
At the big model show here one of the vendors would make you a fake receipt at any price to keep the misses happy no matter what you really spent.
Nice video! My stash has never been "huge" but at around 30 model kits I felt really overwhelmed by it - I've now slimmed it down to 14 and I feel SO much better for it! I'm trying for the foreseeable to only buy kits if I am going to put them on the bench straight away and build them too.
If you find yours is too big I'd be more than happy to relieve you of your Wingnut Wings kits though, haha!
I have already whittled the Wingnut Wings down from about 3 dozen to under 10 kits I really want to build, But time marches on and who knows, maybe one day I will simply sell it all when my eyes fail me and my wobbly hands just can’t cope with the parts anymore.
Interesting perspective HH. :) The metrics from Scalemates are curious things. Thanks for the vid. Have a great week.
Yes the stats from Scalemates can include paints, aftermarket, and tools Mal… so could be a little skewed. But it was fun to think of over 3 million kits waiting to be built.
It's so rare that I see a YT vid that speaks directly to me.
Hear, hear; and if you read the comments here you'll see many of us are in the same boat - (an Airfix St. Louis!)
Thanks August, I like to chat about things that I enjoy or experience in the hobby, so it’s great if others also get where I am coming from. Good on you matey
I think you are pretty spot on about this....I have a very small stash-less than 20-but I have a great amount of books and reference material. All of this will come in handy for my Viking Funeral! Where can I find a 1:1 Viking Long Boat??? Model on👍👍👍
You can rent them but they get upset if you set it on fire for a funeral LoL
Stash is good, gimme more stash plz :)
Deep inside we just want to own a model shop!
Ha ha good one Michael. Many thought I had a model shop when I had the stash behind me in my all my videos years ago. With it all neatly ordered and sorted into brands. Many got jealous and upset that I had too many kits. So I stopped showing them in my videos.
My stash stands at 25 of which 2 are under construction ... i am looking forward to "gift receiving" season in the hope i might get to a stash of 30 ... great video Harry
Only 25 Nick… really? Come on mate you are just not trying hard enough LOL
I can relate, Harry - when I was a kid, the 'stash' was the one and only kit I could afford - but since I returned to the hobby 40 years since I last glued my fingers together, I now have 2 dozen kits 'waiting'.... With very few exceptions, they are ALL RN Fleet Air Arm aircraft, but since I only picked the tools up again in June and have just finished model #7, I think my stash is appropriate... Unless, of course, I can find more unusual RN aircraft....
At least by limiting your subject your stash can’t grow outrageous huge.. as long as you are happy building them, that’s all that matters.
Thank you very much for this video. Indeed the « Stash » is a problem. Kits start piling up very quickly and we tend to spend more time in detailing kits as we move through building kits. Besides, I am realizing that I have lost pleasure detailing too much. I have never collected too many after-market items. All the decals and resins are packed in a shoe box. Interestingly, I feel more guilty of having too many kits than not having enough, therefore I am doing away with many of them. Most of the kits I have are old, secondhand kits as I enjoy building old kits.
I enjoy the old kits more Avia… mostly due to nostalgia but often because they are just nicer to build.
Really happy about this video. The hobby community is far larger and more content than showing off kits and how to paint a panzer for the hundredth time. We need to talk about these topics for our own sake. We stash and stash, dreaming to build the kit that shows on the box art…. As if it will happen in a weekend. Takes weeks or months to build something half decent and we don’t have the luxury of endless time.
Myself I had over 65 kits at one point…I’m 49…. I realised I will never finish them all…. Sold the lot and bought back 10 that I really really want to build (not that I just want to have) and I’m keeping it that way…. Best thing I ever did. Now I’m hungry for building more and buying something I really want to build next. I leave the fancy stash for those that sees the hobby in a different way.
Well done matey… and it is good that you are hungry for the next build, instead of bewildered by the enormity of a stash.
I've been thinking about this very topic a lot lately - even the selfishness of it. Scary hearing my thoughts coming back to me right now!
Sorry to scare you… most of what I said was just in good fun and not to be taken too seriously.
I recently got back into modeling. I chose aircraft. I went with 1/72, built a Spitfire and a P51 Mustang both are Airfix. Some people complaine about airfix but I fine the kits so far are pretty good , yeah sure the need a little cleaning up. As a kid I built so many kits. Aircraft, vehicle's, and armor, never got ships though. By the way I just came across your channel, Great channel, will tune in again.
Good on you Ron
Got around 150 kits in my stash and l'm retired and not far off 70 . l get a real buzz going on E.Bay and looking at models , choosing one or more , ordering them , waiting for them to arrive in the post and opening the parcel and perusing the model . The only drawback is that l only average a couple of kits built , painted and completed in a week so l keep buying ,the stash gets bigger and bigger and being old realising the chances are l will never build them all and the more l buy the more snowed under l get . Then l tell myself that's it no more kits, be happy with the one's l 've got and then hey presto ! l,m back on E. Bay again buying more . Good video Harry . Greetings from Pommie land . Take care .
Sounds like you are enjoying yourself, so we can’t take that away from you. Stash acquire away!
All true, I have so much stash and too little time left. One solution I've found is gifting chunks of my stash to young model builders, and selling some. I met the son of an in-law a few years back who was a rabid armor fan and have sending him kits and bits, and hobby books ever since. Previously I've sold most of my stash twice in my lifetime, always managing to acquire more than I had before. Even buying some of the same kits I'd sold off - that's an addiction! It's is a very good feeling when you have parted with something that you value, especially when you know it's going to someone who will value as you did.
It is a problem, but looks like you have a few solutions. Scalemates tells me I bought about $35,000 worth of kits in the last decade, sold $20,000, with the balance under construction, finished, or given away. Frightening numbers!
For me I’m worried about what will happen to all my half finished kits. I’ve cleaned out a house full of my mother in law’s decades worth of unfinished ambitions. It’s an informative exercise about how one might live and weigh one’s own finiteness. It’s a lot easier to want to do something than it is to actually do it, or even find time to start. So I’ve been paring away my stash and being strategic about keeping projects moving forward.
But life is life.
Life is for living… so just enjoy what you have left of it
Thanks Harry, my childhood modelling was the same. Thanks for the memories.
As for stashes, I’m guilty as well. I agree with your comments, it is selfish. My stash beats the local hobby shop here in Toowoomba, because I’ll build it someday apparently. I know that is unlikely, so why buy it, because it is bright and shiny. So getting towards retirement, my wife wants to downsize, so stash is really impractical even if built 20 kits a year. I build 4-6 on average. I know when I pass on, my stash will either go to tip or charity as a donation. I too have some rare or expensive kits.
As for the built kits, the tip. Will I be able to care? No. So I guess I better downsize the stash…
Thanks for sharing Harry, I enjoyed the video.
Glad you enjoyed the video Cos... thanks for sharing your perspective
I'm trying to only buy kits right now that I want that are out of production, unless I see one I want at a good price, it adds up quickly! My advice would be to wait on common kits to prevent your stash from getting way out of control. I'm at a little over 100 kits in 3 years and finding myself having to sell some unfortunately. Great topic!
Thanks for commenting matey
Brilliant Harry, really funny but serious points excellently communicated. Much agreement here👍🏼 One point I would say though is that maybe folks having stashes ++ might be a reason why kit companies can readily fund R&D and so we can get more diverse kits down the road. Just a thought mate
Oh yes it does keep the economy of manufacturing funded… but I still think the cupholders are going just a bit too far!
I'm 61 and eyeing retirement, and like other old farts here looking to my childhood and getting back into modelling. My question is, what do you do with the models you've built? Store them and cycle through displaying a few? If so, how do you store them? I can see myself working my way through WWII aircraft and armour and I'm not sure where I'd put them all.
I rotate my display from built kits in storage.. often putting in a newly finished model and pulling out one I have had on display for a while. This keeps my view of completed kits interesting and my visitors get to see something new each time they come over.
@@HarryHoudiniModels Thanks! How do you store them? Are we talking shoebox or do you have some flasher way of keeping them safe from breakages?
I get 20 litre plastic tubs from the dollar shop… then keep my larger models in them wrapped in tissues. For the smaller models I used some compartment trays I found at a Hardware Store. They were for electrical parts, but make great storage containers for tanks and small aircraft. I was also gifted a large jewellers display box, which is perfect for my longer battleship models.
@@HarryHoudiniModels Cool, thanks Harry.
I have plasterboard walls and ceilings so make a little slit and with a little glue stick wing tips in them,can pretty much have them in any position but once done there’s no going back.I live at the sea side in Kent ,England.These last few days I have been watching the sky puzzling on how to paint Battle of Britain sky on my bed room ceiling,yep I’m 54 and live alone,living the dream
Hi Harry I really didn't get back into modeling until the beginning of the pandemic. I started out with 1/72 and was only getting reasonably priced kits. As time went on and I really began researching the kits, I started to get kits I felt I needed. Then it became getting kits to supplement what I already had. With the raises I have been getting the last four years, I have begun moving into 1/48 and 1/32 scale kits. It's pricey, but has led to me getting kits I would never have imagined I could purchase. I feel you are right and I need to trim my 1/72 scale pile. Moving into the bigger scale has quickly filled up multiple spaces and led to a storage issue. My daughter has developed an interest in building, so I suspect she will get my larger scale kits since she dislikes the 1/72 scale intensely.
When I was young all I built were 1/72 aircraft or 1/600 ships from Airfix. Now I can have great big 1/32 planes and 1/350 or even 1/200 battleships! But as you say, where do we store them and where can we display them when made? It’s become absurd.
Sir Great content. You hit it right on the head. I'm 51 and I'm guilty also of 98% of your video. Thank for making me 😃.
Glad you liked it Gilbert
I've just sold off 63 kits from my stash, I had to make a realistic decision on what I could reasonably build, and display, and all all my Tamiya 1/350 ship kits were the first to go.
Additionally, at 64 and retired, I still can't seem to find as much time for modelling as I'd like, and, I've got 4 builds sitting around waiting to be finished for one reason or another.
Yes all those impulse buys soon stack up.. bet you feel better after the stash purge?
I sold my stash of models off about 15 years ago as I found I had kits that I hadn't started in 10 years . I now have 5 in the loft that I plan to do and one being made. This I find keeps the wife happy and keeps the choice of what I want to build next as that can be problematic if you have more kits than my local model shop.
A happy wife means a happy life John. Thanks for commenting
Mine is nowhere near big enough...you can NEVER have too many kits.
You are insatiable Jaws…. enjoy your stash
@@HarryHoudiniModels thank you Harry...and indeed i will.👍👍👍
Very interesting topic Harry, and very valid points raised. I personally collect a lot of kits that are more obscure than your standard items in the aid of making sure I have the availability to make that subject if I want to in the future, so I think FOMO plays a part in it. I think there’s probably an element of ‘model shop nostalgia’ in there somewhere as well, when you see all the boxes stacked together on multiple shelves, and in general it’s fun to collect things. I also think one of the main reasons why the collection/build ratio is bad is because when you buy the kit your brain has a blank cheque with you thinking “ah yes I’ll be able to build this in this way and make a cool project out of it”, but then when you actually get it you’ve gotta put a lot of effort into it so it becomes a lot easier to park it and think - “oh ill get around to it in the future” …at least that’s what I do sometimes :)
FOMO is a formidable monster.. thanks for your thoughts matey
Hilarious Harry - Your comments are bang on - I'm getting back into the hobby and amazed at how people are so enamored with the different variants of some military models like Lancaster's bombers for example. Some modelers view the different versions (A/B/C/D/F/Late/Early) of the Lancaster as completely different planes that need to be built. To me they are all just Lancasters.
I'm a bit guilty of that to be honest :) I have a grand total of 5 in my stash :) 3 lancs in total 2 Tamiya 1/48 Lancs variants and one 1.72 Airfix one.
At the end of the day JB, it’s a model, and in your display cabinet all those Lanks look the same to everyone else LOL
Jude there is nothing wrong with you having lots of Lanks, as long as you don’t tell everyone else they should too. Just do the thing you enjoy.
Hi Harry
I love my big stash that mostly now consist of old classic kit's from Matchbox, Airfix and Esci,I build some,I like the box art,Roy Cross etc,my kids know what they would be worth when I drop off the perch.
Keep up the great work cobba.
Thanks Matey
Great video. I build for myself, when complete i give them to the charity shop. I have what I wanted to pick up, I only collect tall ships. The prices have gone through the roof and some of them you can't get anymore. I'm glad I picked them up when I did. Not sure there is enough of them to call a stash, maybe 20. I only manage to complete one every 2/3 years or so due to work and life. When I retire I hope to get through them all. If I peg it before they are complete, they are to go to charity.
Very charitable Bosco… great idea
I have currently a grand total of 02 (two) started kits and an actual stash of 0 (zero). I hope I can soon get to the ideal state of buying a kit, building a kit, then buying a new one, etc.
I like your videos because you echo my perspective on the whole hobby. It's supposed to be fun. It's supposed to be a thing you do when you're *not* being a serious and professional adult. And we're suppose to actuallly *build* the kits, not pile them into a totem of abundance.
And I'm not even a boomer.
“A totem of abundance” I might just steal that.. thanks Fabiano
Another thought-provoking topic from you, Harry. You make a lot of sense here and we shouldn’t buy kits on a whim. But it can be irritating when you walk away from a kit, then later decide you do want it, and it has become hard to find or the price has gone through the roof. Anyway, I hope to build most of the kits in my stash before I shuffle off this mortal coil. What happens to them after that, well … I’ll be past caring. I hope they will go to someone who appreciates them as much as I do, but that would be out of my hands so no point worrying about it. We are only really ever in charge of our own happiness. 😅
That is very true Ronald… we are the ones who choose to be happy, and no amount of kit stashing can really change that.
A major issue with having a stash, for me anyway, is the difficulty in staying focused on, and enthusiastic about, the kit in front of me when there are hundreds of others calling out 'build me, build me!'. My completion rate is....not good.....
You and me both brother.
This was a very interesting topic Harry. Like a lot of modellers, I have quite a few kits sitting on the shelf waiting patiently for attention. However, like yourself I am self employed, and also like a lot of people, my income is now very patchy thanks to the Covid issues that are still affecting my work. I am also a ‘slow’ modeller due to spending every hour I have working, when it is available. However I still have the ‘I need that kit’ problem that you illustrate so clearly, and unless I get more time for my modelling, I can see my stash getting bigger. I think this is a problem that’s lot of casual modellers have. In saying that, I also agree that having a huge collection of kits on the shelf, in numbers that you know that you will never build, is a bit crazy.
I am in my early 70’s and probably will not get the chance to complete the kits I already have, so commonsense must prevail. Your thoughts on this subject really opened my eyes to that fact, and prompts me to change my ways somewhat. Great discussion mate. Looking forward to your next bench session. Cheers from south of the border!
Good on you Gary… glad my waffle got you thinking.
this is such a TRUTH in modelling. I have moved through a number of genres during my life; mostly model railway where there are three categories - Modellers, Operators and Collectors. The same can be said for Scale modelling too. There are modellers (those who build models as they go), collectors (those who buy kits but rarely build kits - the stash hoarders) and a group in between. Just think though, if we didn't't have collectors then we wouldn't have buy and sell events.... Having said that I think the stash is NOT bad for the hobby as it means kits are being bought and therefore the Tamiya's and Airfix's of the world will continue to make more and improve more which is good for the hobby. So in the end, the hobby is in a reasonably good state and will continue to do so.
well said Peter
Got back into the hobby about 2-1/2 years ago. I still had an old stash of about a dozen models I never got rid of through 7 moves over 40 years. I have finally gotten through all but 1 of the original dozen. But I have also purchased at least two dozen more in the past 2-1/2 years so I doubled my stash. While not a large stash it's more than enough to keep me busy.
Busy is a good thing Joe
Happy to be in the 1.3% in your viewers Harry. Rock on mate!
Well done you little whipper snapper :)
I have a stash of about 100 kits, mainly armor, with some monster and sci fi. I don’t buy because it’s so new, I mainly buy kits I’ve always wanted. I find a new one every few months, but not very often. I have more than I will ever be able to build in my late life, which means I’m much more selective. I really enjoy the ones I build.
I love your comments on this subject.
Thanks for commenting Steve
Understand and agree on acquiring those historical wants - spent ages re-buying kits from my childhood and then getting the kits I wanted (but didn't get) from the same period. Thereafter it's been mainly new kit FOMO as it's very rare that they get cheaper the older those kits get.
At the end of the day, it's a hobby, whether it's building or collecting- just enjoy it!
What's the difference between building the kit and having it thrown in the trash when you croak or having a boxed kit thrown in the trash when you croak?????!!!!!!! Anyone who collects things leaves a potential burden for those left behind (or those having to sort you out when your kit has more dribble on it than glue!) - that's just the way it is!
Anyway, an unmade kit does have the option of being resold. I keep a list of my kits with the prices paid and my wife / kids can, as you say, decide on whether to sell individually on ebay or find a clearing house to take the whole lot....
It's a good job you on the other side of the world Harry - otherwise I'd come round and confiscate your shelf (sorry but it's not enough to be called a stash!!!) and hold it for you - giving you a kit from it when you finish the one you've got (I.e Stingray)
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For me the problem is - to much kits in the stash. First I realised, that I have not the time to build all of my 256 kits in my lifetime. Second, not the room to display them. I bought all of them with the intension do build them. And there are no doubles. It is hard for me not to buy something new and to decide, wich kits I will build in the next years and which of them must go...
I store many of my built models then just rotate them in my display cabinets every 6 months or so. Just keeping the newest builds, or my favourites on display at any one time.
my stash is way too big (around 250 kits) and I currently don't have a confortable place to construct and paint them, sigh. I have no idea, why I got all of them, but partially I blame the amazing kit box art and the models that you can't find anymore, some since the 70s. Also, once you get into the flow of hunting down the models you want to have, and struggling to find the best prices, it becomes highly addictive to buy the models instead of building them. And ironically I don't even like to sell stuff, cause it's kinda too complicated of a process from my small European country. I also have some pretty rare ones. But to think soon will everyone have his own hi res 3d printer and they will just print them at home for ultra cheap.
I have a few 3D printers and I can tell you getting full injected model quality for an entire model kit at an affordable price is decades away.
Great video, Harry. My stash as of right now is 4 kits. My wish list,well, that's different . But there are some cars that may be multiple buys. Like 1966-69 Pontiacs GTOs.
Or 1955,56,57 Chevy Belairs. But I understand what you are saying about stashes getting too big. When you got talking about your Wingnut wings ,I went and checked them out. The list price is around $200 USD. Then I found out that the company has gone out of business. And for they younger generation, not wanting to do modeling ,it is probably due to it being considered outdated and not whizbang high tech. Plus, they probably did not have anyone to get them started in it. Take care, and hopefully, you will be around for a while to share your thoughts and modeling with us.
I bought a lot of my Wingnut Wings kits for $50 or less when they first came out… the most I spent was just over $100 USD for the Gotha, but then realised it was just too big for me to build or display. So I put it on eBay, before WNW shut down mind you, and the bidding went up to $600. Crazy!
I've been building since the early 60s. My stash of 400 or so kits are mostly kits from the 50s-70s , all old friends really. Some I build others are for looking at I get a lot of joy out of having a little hobby shop in my basement.
Great Joy is a very good thing
Very interesting and valid points made in this video. My take is that when we do pass on to the great glue god in the sky, our better halves, siblings, relatives etc, will donate to St. Vinny’s or the same and some one will come across the greatest heaven on earth. I’m sure many of us out there have experienced an occasion when we’ve happened upon a treasure trove. My recent experience was a small book shop with hundreds of Commando comics. My enthusiasm was too much for the poor shop keeper that she couldn’t price them quickly enough what she had recently in stock for me to buy them. I was tormented by waiting weeks before I could buy some more and fearing that someone would beat me to “my precious”. My dream was fulfilled once I double checked my Excel spread sheet and ticked off what I needed for the collection.
If we can give an unknown dying gift to a wanting stranger, is that not the best gift of all….
I think your final sentence said it all… great sentiment Tony
Good video, my wife would totally agree, when I met her I had tons of unbuilt Games Workshop kits. There was no way I was ever going to build all of them. Sold all of them at the local second hand store, to fund the move to Japan. Now I've just discovered Wingnut Wings. Yes I know late in the day! I was lucky to get on in a second hand store called Hardoff , here in Japan. Luckily the price was not so bad. Its a Camel ship version. I would like a couple more as I want the challenge to build them. Not buy to rip people off on Ebay with crazy prices that are making these kits only available to the rich, who lets face it won't bulid them , just have as an investment.
Yes you started at the probable peak price of Wingnut Wings kits.. but there are a few reasonable priced kits out there worth snapping up. Good luck.
Entertaining and thought provoking.
I feel there may be a flaw in your reasoning Harry but for the life of me I can’t figure out what it is.
As a returnee to the hobby I’ve got five models in my stash; one paper (Schreiber-Bogen DH Dragon Rapide), one stick and tissue (Guillow’s DH Chipmunk) and three plastic (Airfix DH Tiger Moth, an Airfix DC-3 and an Eduard Hansa-Brandenberg). I’ve acquired all the tools and glues and paints but spend so much time watching Houdini waffle I’ve yet to build a single kit‼️🤪
Will probably start with the Tiger Moth and, thanks to you Harry, have a reduced chance of screwing it up.
There are always lots of flaws in my reasoning Paul LoL
I liked the video. I don't consider myself as having a "stash", but just a group of models I have not yet had the time to build. I like opening the boxes, looking at the parts, and planning the build. Will I ever get them all built? Not physically (i'm 63 and have far too many models), but mentally I have built them all numerous times. We all like the hobby for our own reasons. As far as what will happen to my kits when I croak, my wife says if I go first, she will have a big bonfire and invite the local model club over to watch LOL.
I like the concept of virtually building the kits in your mind… like an athlete visualising the task ahead and being the better for it. Great mind skills Gordon.
Excellently said HH. Many good points and we humans are surely very strange about things. Collecting is what we do, whatever it is, cars, real estate, wives and even some I hear great piles of cash. Thank you, take care and cheers mate.
I have this large collection of used ear wax buds you may be curious about…. or maybe not :)
I have around 340 in my stash including starts (120 or so) and I'm resigned to the fact I'll not only never complete them all it's unlikely I'll complete what I've started. And that's just fine because creativity is a process and an end in itself, not merely a means to an end--a finished product.
As for Scalemates, I love the site and I've never had any problems there. Everyone is very polite and supportive.
And with that, I'll go back to building my Tamiya PzIVF. I needed a return to sanity after dealing with that Border Type VIIc. I don't don't know how Border could over AND underengineer a kit at the same time, so I needed a break.
Yes give your mind a rest and knock out a Tamiya kit… I must say I felt just the same with the Das Werk Swimmwagen!
At 32, I have a stash big enough to start my own hobby shop. However, in a issue of IPMS magazine I read an article about having a stash of models. It's not always about hoarding models, but that a stash of models can be a source of inspiration. Even though you might not build every model in your stash, you might look at the box of one of your stashed away models and it brings some inspiration for a current build. So that's how I justify my pile of shame. I do agree though it's a bit questionable when people buy many versions of the same subject. Then again who am I to tell people how to spend their money. If it makes you happy, then by all means enjoy it. A drug addiction would be cheaper at this point haha
Inspired by their stash LOL now I have heard everything… my stash inspires me to sell or build them!
Pile of shame, love it .
You make a valid point, Harry. Without being insensitive, I have "dealt" with the stash issue by making a Will and appointing Executors who know how to deal with the stash. Firstly in these inflationary times, I view the stash as an investment. Just look how Wingnut Wings prices have gone through the roof. And by making it known to the Executors that it is an investment they will realise the value appropriately.
Selling my WNW kits did fund me during the times I could not find contract work. Luckily I had bought all those kits when they were affordable and sold at less than the crazy prices on Evil bay these days, but still made a healthy profit.
So true Brother, thank you.
I've got 36 - 1/32 Tamiya Mustangs, and I think it "may be", too much.
Yes that might be more than a squadron William
49 years old here. Took a 10 year break while in the Army. 25 kits in the stash with 7 pontos upgrade sets. I have a crap ton on my wish list though but I do plan to work the stash down to about 10 before adding anything new. I have 1 daughter who isn't into ships at all and no grandkids in my future so I'm certain that when I take my dirt nap that anything in my stash and all my built kits will go to the bin.
Sorry to hear that Andrea… but we can’t dwell on the past or worry about the future too much. Live in the present and just enjoy building your models.
Good video. Great points. Just came across your channel. Current "stash" is 4
Only 4? Come on, you can do better LOL. Just kidding Florian.
Something to think about!!
It can be.. although most of my video was tongue in cheek.
I have a rule that if i buy a kit, i have to build one from the stash, to make room. Granted, i have less than 20 kits, but it keeps me honest and building!
Very good rule.
Hi,
I have a fairly big stash although I like to think I don't fall into the 'wanting cup holders' clan. If I buy anything it's usually secondhand and always a preferred subject, not just for the sake of buying it.
I also don't feel the need to build multiples of the same subject, like various Spitfires, one Spitfire is enough for me.
Only one Spitfire! What about the cupholders?
😁 the submarine crew preferred them on the outside of their sub 🙃
You are absolutely right😊
Good on you Jesper
There is also the problem that we have our own desire, addiction, around kits: "Oooohh!! I like that one ... " etc. My stash is rediculous... and just gone up by 5 or 6 more. Who the hell cares, enjoy the hobby in your own why. Abd I've still got to convert the "spare room" into my model-making den; and, I've only been chasing that dream for ...
It's part of the hobby and like I said "who the hell cares ... as long as it makes you happy! Enjoy the hobby and your time in/doing it. It's like sex: you always want more, with ever more bigger or exotic models - so you indulge in what you can get!! Keep modelling Harry or doing the other exotic modelling; ... when you can!!!
Modelling is like sex? That’s why I keep F’ing up my builds then John? hehe
I slashed my stash over the past dozen years because I knew there was no way that I could finish all of them even if I lived another hundred years. It's still too big and I still get the occasional new kit, but things are much more under control.
As long as you are enjoying the hobby mate… that’s all that counts
I don't buy a kit because of the 'latest-greatest' craze ... I get a diorama/vignette in mind and buy the kits I envision making the scene , or plan a project around a kit I like ... so now I've got a shed full of kits that , if/when I get to them will fill a museum
Well at least you have a plan John.. good on you matey
I've just audited all mine after a recent house move.
Oh dear. I think I need to live for 300 years if I'm going to build this lot 🤣🤣
Bring on the robot bodies so when can have our heads put in a jar atop them…. at least that way we may have a chance of finishing the stash!
I am in a similar situation. A Baby Boomer with 100s of kits in my stash. Some are Out of Production (OOP) but my intention is to slowly build them (not all of them). The vintage and rare ones are kept aside; in the event of my death, I have instructed my next of kin to sell them on eBay. Another way of financially supporting my family.
You sound well organised Eric. I previously made a video discussing what happens to your stash when you are gone, but just about all my friends wanted to be buried with their kits! Selfish buggas.
Got about 225 in the stash. In my defence, I knew I was moving to a country where shipping was more than the kit. Five years on and have completed 75! So I'm good said the guy who just bought a Ki-21.
Well that sounds like a reasonable excuse John. At least you are building them.
When i was a teen in the late 70's , i had a mate (wow!), same age as me, who had over two hundred kits that he would not build, it drove me nuts! I used to get em home and they would be built that night and painted by the next day! I still have a modest stash of about 20 and i mean to build em all! Cheers Harry!
Stash envy I believe is a mortal sin LOL… 20 is a nice number Steve. I hope you can continue the practical restrain.
As usual you bring a smile to one’s face. The Spitfire cup holder add ons will send the stash builders apoplectic with envy and into another buying frenzy no doubt. It is a vicious circle as you highlight but do the stash builders actually stimulate the manufacturers and thus give the hobby the benefit of the range and depth of new releases (or re-releases)? Hence stash = market thus we all benefit. Stashers keep stashing and us micro-stashers get all the benefits and none of the vast expense. Perhaps a slightly parochial stance but it is a broad church hobby. Great content as always. Best wishes.
I took some liberty with the economics for comedic purposes, but high demand means more product, and as always, prices go up as you make the product more complex.
Ha, well I got an Aussie spec Sunderland as I was inspired by yours. It will be a while in building....
It is a case of do as I say not as I do LOL. But really this video was just tongue in cheek and meant to be a bit of fun.
@@HarryHoudiniModels I've only got 70-80 kits .... 🤣🤣🤣
Sooo recognizable...started in the 60s too. Stash? Wazzat? Almost made it before coming home from the shop...Then the pause. 40 odd years and now I suffer the same problem, but...because I can. Have the finances needed and afraid I can't get the model anymore if i don't get it right away...
Thanks for your comment Vere. The fear of missing out is a strong one.
I have eight kits in my stash! Still having problems 😅
I only have one Spitfire (Tamiya 1/32 Mk IX)
HKM Noseart Lanc 1/32
Airfix 1/72 Vulcan
Tamiya 1/48 Dornier do335
Tamiya 1/48 Corsair
ICM 1/32 Gloster Gladiator
Dora Wings 1/48 Morane Saulnier 230
Miniart 1/35 Austin Armoured Car
Went to a kit store in town... Owner said he had come across 200 1/72 aircraft kits from some guy who needed to empty his stash. He had died 🤪
There are many brokers who deal in deceased estates and often auction off model kits… I have found rare kits at bargain prices that way.
Great Information and video
Thanks matey
In photography they call it GAS - Gear Acquisition Syndrome. I don't have the space for a stash or even the kits I do build. I just enjoy the process and give them away after a while
Amateur Astronomy has exactly the same thing. Tends to be eyepieces for telescopes for us lol
Maybe that’s the secret, live somewhere small so there is no space for a stash…
I think the price of new kits may slow purchases. And cause modelers to start digging into their stashes.
We can only hope James
Just today, I went to a model show and came home with 3 more old kits. When I got home, I added them to my stash and told myself to stop buying more and more kits that are going to set around for God knows how long.
Sure you will… hehe