This is a fascinating deep dive into Chief Justice Qazi Faez Isa's life and legacy! His role in Pakistan's judiciary is incredibly significant, and it's crucial to explore the complexities of his career. Whether viewed as a constitutionalist or a sellout, his impact on the legal landscape has been profound. This conversation sheds light on the challenges and nuances faced by those in power. Kudos to The Pakistan Experience for tackling such important topics! Looking forward to more insightful discussions.
@@muhammadshahab9387 at least he didnt order mercedes for a ghari chor and said good to see you!.....pti ko aap jaisay log bohot andar lay kar chaltay ho side pay to dur ki baat! lol....wadda aya!
unsubscribing u and u're heating blood of patwaries and now we all can understand that what u're. the man who's appreciating qazi then he's fraudi like qazi fraudi. shame on u , u'as totally presenting only one side to get admire by qazi fans but get mic and do survey , its a challenge for u , ask about qazi fraudi, and why he said extension sub ko mily loonga and jb kaha nhi lengy sth hii press release aayi yeh munafikat chorden, jisny mansoor ko chief nhi banany diya ,bilawel nai khud kaha k qazi k baghair na mumkin tha, kitna jhoot bolty hu, aaj yakeen hua,muneeb par ilzam ku lgae? mansoor ko deceive ku kisny kiya? kon bhjta rha news judges ki court sy? amin ko ku dala within mins notification aya jo tayar tha? election tribunals, 8 feb election, 13 jan jis din symbol alloting last datee thii ,,, pti ki recount kr k seats ppp ko diiin, military court ko revive kiya, 6 judges k letter ki proceeding lga k prospone kiya, journalist pr dolar khor huny ka ilzam, judges ko tokna hate sy bolna, lawyers sy batmeezi,yeh kamray beth k studio khul k one side picture pesh krna asan hai,,,, kab ticket de rhy pmln wly ? what about islamic uni matter that he started court trail in group meeting and what he did in court with rector? just do podcast of mati asad maryam nawaz khan hasnat saqib zulqarnain sohail rashed qamber etc they will tell truth bcz they saw directly and u r supporting a man due to hating imra khan shame/who took shehzad malik to sc when he was acting like a umberella against interefrence after resistance of atc court judges?
@@muhammadhayat4218 unsubscribing u and u're heating blood of patwaries and now we all can understand that what u're. the man who's appreciating qazi then he's fraudi like qazi fraudi. shame on u , u'as totally presenting only one side to get admire by qazi fans but get mic and do survey , its a challenge for u , ask about qazi fraudi, and why he said extension sub ko mily loonga and jb kaha nhi lengy sth hii press release aayi yeh munafikat chorden, jisny mansoor ko chief nhi banany diya ,bilawel nai khud kaha k qazi k baghair na mumkin tha, kitna jhoot bolty hu, aaj yakeen hua,muneeb par ilzam ku lgae? mansoor ko deceive ku kisny kiya? kon bhjta rha news judges ki court sy? amin ko ku dala within mins notification aya jo tayar tha? election tribunals, 8 feb election, 13 jan jis din symbol alloting last datee thii ,,, pti ki recount kr k seats ppp ko diiin, military court ko revive kiya, 6 judges k letter ki proceeding lga k prospone kiya, journalist pr dolar khor huny ka ilzam, judges ko tokna hate sy bolna, lawyers sy batmeezi,yeh kamray beth k studio khul k one side picture pesh krna asan hai,,,, kab ticket de rhy pmln wly ? what about islamic uni matter that he started court trail in group meeting and what he did in court with rector? just do podcast of mati asad maryam nawaz khan hasnat saqib zulqarnain sohail rashed qamber etc they will tell truth bcz they saw directly and u r supporting a man due to hating imra khan shame/who took shehzad malik to sc when he was acting like a umberella against interefrence after resistance of atc court judges?
It's like doing a program on General Musharraf's military career and praising him for his achievements before becoming COAS. He surely would have had many achievements during his military career, but should we praise him for that or should we focus on his tenure as COAS and what he did during that period. Qazi Isa's legacy will only be determined by his tenure as CJP, not his whole career. I believe Qazi faez Isa was a very good judge but as CJP, he proved to be overall bad for judiciary (just like many of his predecessors). Nearly all men can stand adversity. But if you want to test a man's character, give him power. - Abraham Lincoln
All his judgements as CJP were also very sound. He followed the laws and the constitution regardless of whether they were helping or hurting Imran Khan's quest to power.
The analysis presented is flawed. Court reporters who had once supported Qazi Faez Isa through difficult periods, including during Bandial’s tenure, distanced themselves when he became Chief Justice, becoming some of his most vocal critics. Similarly, judges and lawyers who had previously backed him during the reference proceedings ultimately turned against him during his tenure. This shift seemed to arise from the perception that Isa was more aligned with a pro-PML-N, anti-PTI stance rather than maintaining an anti-establishment position. Throughout his time as Chief Justice, Isa appeared unable to move past his grievances with PTI and Imran Khan, which, according to former allies-including judges, journalists, and lawyers-resulted in a weakened judicial system in Pakistan. Journalists not affiliated with PTI, such as Asad Toor and Matiullah Jan, have also voiced similar concerns. Furthermore, the corruption charges against Isa were never proven false; instead, Isa approached the Supreme Court to suspend proceedings against him in the Supreme Judicial Council on the basis of 'malified' . This decision has raised questions, as Article 210 clearly stipulates that Supreme Judicial Council proceedings cannot be challenged in any court of law, seemingly at odds with Isa’s portrayal as a “strict constitutionalist.” Also, the evidence was against QFI and he was not able to prove his innocence in SJC. Additionally, the bat symbol ruling has been criticized as unconstitutional because it relied on the Election Act to justify the decision while disregarding Article 17, which guarantees political party rights. He is one of the worst cheif justice Pakistan has seen if not the worst.
So the evidence I’ve presented is flawed because some people have a different perception? Perceptions aren’t facts. Your own leader in May 2024 praised QFI. Itna hee always anti PTI that QFI toh was Imran khan lying then? Watch the full video you might change your mind
@@ThePakistanExperience I have presented you the reasoning. IK saying him brave was just a move to make Qazi less hostile, which by the way was wrong as IK was trying to get favor out of it. However, I disputed your arguments with facts, let me know if any of it is wrong. Your potrayal of him as 'strict consittuonalist' is not right as he is one of the few judges who have declared a contitutional ammendment to be ultra vires the constitution which is not possible to do under the constitution as contitutional ammendment cannot be challanged in court. So in all my facts are pretty straight. I have watched the video and though we can argue his tenure as a judge was mixed but as cheif justice pakistan, it was only a bad tenure.
@@ThePakistanExperience Qazi Faez Isa removed a constitutional ammendment that was challanged which under constitution of 1973 is not allowed as any ammendment to constitution cannot be challanged and therefore removed by court
This video sounded more like a fluff piece than an honest critique. If one wants to read an honest piece on Isa's legacy they ought to read Dawn and ET's latest editorials on Isa and should also watch Abdul Moiz Jaferi's interview on Raftar. Isa was elevated by Iftikhar Chaudhary and eventually turned into another Chaudhary. While Chaudhary was a tout for the Sharifs, Isa became a lackey for the establishment. This podcast was a sad attempt at rewriting history. Isa was a vindictive, petty and a small man and it was unfortunate for Pakistan that he ended up as the CJP. He was the Munir of our generation.
What absolute bilge. Only an utter moron, read diseased youthar, would be so completely subjective. Want t o see petty , myopic & stupid, look no further rather than your party leadership, split asunder & every which way as it is lollz
Qazi sahib had a very good reputation before becoming chief justice of Pakistan. After becoming chief justice, some of the biggest blunders are his stance about 6 judges letter case (threat). Other than that, if he was from Balochistan then he should have taken steps to stop those disappearances. After he became chief, disappearances started happening even in punjab on basis of just political differences. I think you should watch aitzaz ahsan's point of view about him.
You also missed, or may be didn't know, the way Qazi attempted to stuff Supreme Court with like-Minded retired judges, as adhoc appointments. After he realized that he has lost majority. He managed to bring in 2 out of total 4 retired judges, all nominated by him. You also missed the way he handled the letter from 6 Islamabad High Court Judges. Threw them at the mercy of wolves. He actually killed all points of his legacy with his own hands: recused from sitting in bench for military courts, which he once criticized; took-over PPA committee which he once advocated and created; denied live-steaming in Imran's case, which he initiated; made changes in decision when opposed by religious groups. Did everything as per establishment's need.
An absolutely amazing video, and a really balanced, measured, and rational analysis of his career; not reducing his entire career to the past one year. I had high hopes for Justice Esa, to say the least I was disappointing by his performance in the past one year; but then again he was by far one of better Justices.
unsubscribing u and u're heating blood of patwaries and now we all can understand that what u're. the man who's appreciating qazi then he's fraudi like qazi fraudi. shame on u , u'as totally presenting only one side to get admire by qazi fans but get mic and do survey , its a challenge for u , ask about qazi fraudi, and why he said extension sub ko mily loonga and jb kaha nhi lengy sth hii press release aayi yeh munafikat chorden, jisny mansoor ko chief nhi banany diya ,bilawel nai khud kaha k qazi k baghair na mumkin tha, kitna jhoot bolty hu, aaj yakeen hua,muneeb par ilzam ku lgae? mansoor ko deceive ku kisny kiya? kon bhjta rha news judges ki court sy? amin ko ku dala within mins notification aya jo tayar tha? election tribunals, 8 feb election, 13 jan jis din symbol alloting last datee thii ,,, pti ki recount kr k seats ppp ko diiin, military court ko revive kiya, 6 judges k letter ki proceeding lga k prospone kiya, journalist pr dolar khor huny ka ilzam, judges ko tokna hate sy bolna, lawyers sy batmeezi,yeh kamray beth k studio khul k one side picture pesh krna asan hai,,,, kab ticket de rhy pmln wly ?
Well the conduct as a CJ weighs much more that only as a Judge. Actually also as a Judge he had authoritarian and narcissistic tendencies, only that when one CJP it becomes more highlighted. Ofcourse such a character trait can also be helpful to withstand tremendous pressure... like to which he was subjected to when a reference was filed against him. But this can also be very self destructive. A good example was the leaked audio of the Islamic University Board meeting... truly reflective of a authoritarian mindset. But the real issue is that previously he showed himself to be fighter for constitution and fundamental rights but ended up making a deal with the establishment.
@@user-rh5jp2sh4s unsubscribing u and u're heating blood of patwaries and now we all can understand that what u're. the man who's appreciating qazi then he's fraudi like qazi fraudi. shame on u , u'as totally presenting only one side to get admire by qazi fans but get mic and do survey , its a challenge for u , ask about qazi fraudi, and why he said extension sub ko mily loonga and jb kaha nhi lengy sth hii press release aayi yeh munafikat chorden, jisny mansoor ko chief nhi banany diya ,bilawel nai khud kaha k qazi k baghair na mumkin tha, kitna jhoot bolty hu, aaj yakeen hua,muneeb par ilzam ku lgae? mansoor ko deceive ku kisny kiya? kon bhjta rha news judges ki court sy? amin ko ku dala within mins notification aya jo tayar tha? election tribunals, 8 feb election, 13 jan jis din symbol alloting last datee thii ,,, pti ki recount kr k seats ppp ko diiin, military court ko revive kiya, 6 judges k letter ki proceeding lga k prospone kiya, journalist pr dolar khor huny ka ilzam, judges ko tokna hate sy bolna, lawyers sy batmeezi,yeh kamray beth k studio khul k one side picture pesh krna asan hai,,,, kab ticket de rhy pmln wly ? what about islamic uni matter that he started court trail in group meeting and what he did in court with rector? just do podcast of mati asad maryam nawaz khan hasnat saqib zulqarnain sohail rashed qamber etc they will tell truth bcz they saw directly and u r supporting a man due to hating imra khan shame/who took shehzad malik to sc when he was acting like a umberella against interefrence after resistance of atc court judges?
But he was a facilitator in massive rigging happened in recent elections. Its not about one party or seeing through imran khan's lens. he let the previous political traditions continue and gave open hand to establishment to do whatever they want. He could have set an example for future. Not allowing just one party to contest elections and turning a blind eye on events that took place near elections. Also saying stupid stuff like i am not aware of the current affairs because "i don't watch Television". Do you think all of this can be ignored and he can be judged only for his positive judgements?? I believe he did more harm than he did good. His monal judgement is something i definitely appreciate even though i used to frequently visit there for enjoyment.
unsubscribing u and u're heating blood of patwaries and now we all can understand that what u're. the man who's appreciating qazi then he's fraudi like qazi fraudi. shame on u , u'as totally presenting only one side to get admire by qazi fans but get mic and do survey , its a challenge for u , ask about qazi fraudi, and why he said extension sub ko mily loonga and jb kaha nhi lengy sth hii press release aayi yeh munafikat chorden, jisny mansoor ko chief nhi banany diya ,bilawel nai khud kaha k qazi k baghair na mumkin tha, kitna jhoot bolty hu, aaj yakeen hua,muneeb par ilzam ku lgae? mansoor ko deceive ku kisny kiya? kon bhjta rha news judges ki court sy? amin ko ku dala within mins notification aya jo tayar tha? election tribunals, 8 feb election, 13 jan jis din symbol alloting last datee thii ,,, pti ki recount kr k seats ppp ko diiin, military court ko revive kiya, 6 judges k letter ki proceeding lga k prospone kiya, journalist pr dolar khor huny ka ilzam, judges ko tokna hate sy bolna, lawyers sy batmeezi,yeh kamray beth k studio khul k one side picture pesh krna asan hai,,,, kab ticket de rhy pmln wly ?
The much awaited video. I was thinking of sending you the dm to make such video. Furthermore, the nation needs a crash course on rules of interpretation of law, please do make a video on it. As a lawyer, it hurts to see people reading law and legal matters like they would read a newspaper.
He facilitated 26th amendment by giving ruling of 63A. As you argued the timing thing with bat symbol case, similarly timing of 63A decision makes it suspicious. He changed the committee by excluding J. Muneeb. These things along with other things made Isa suspicious regarding 26th amendment.
Did you read the 63-A short order? It’s the absolutely correct reading of the law. No lawyer will say Umar ATA Bandials ruling was constitutional. Find me one lawyer of any worth who will defend Umar ATA Bandials judgment?
unsubscribing u and u're heating blood of patwaries and now we all can understand that what u're. the man who's appreciating qazi then he's fraudi like qazi fraudi. shame on u , u'as totally presenting only one side to get admire by qazi fans but get mic and do survey , its a challenge for u , ask about qazi fraudi, and why he said extension sub ko mily loonga and jb kaha nhi lengy sth hii press release aayi yeh munafikat chorden, jisny mansoor ko chief nhi banany diya ,bilawel nai khud kaha k qazi k baghair na mumkin tha, kitna jhoot bolty hu, aaj yakeen hua,muneeb par ilzam ku lgae? mansoor ko deceive ku kisny kiya? kon bhjta rha news judges ki court sy? amin ko ku dala within mins notification aya jo tayar tha? election tribunals, 8 feb election, 13 jan jis din symbol alloting last datee thii ,,, pti ki recount kr k seats ppp ko diiin, military court ko revive kiya, 6 judges k letter ki proceeding lga k prospone kiya, journalist pr dolar khor huny ka ilzam, judges ko tokna hate sy bolna, lawyers sy batmeezi,yeh kamray beth k studio khul k one side picture pesh krna asan hai,,,, kab ticket de rhy pmln wly ?
@@ThePakistanExperience The ruling is spot on. No one should question that but the timing of the review, taking the help of an ordinance to kick out Muneeb specifically to fix this one case, ensuring the Govt have the luxury of turn-coats when he had prior knowledge of the amendment (he mentions it in his minority judgement of the reserved case) makes one suspect that he wanted the amendment to be passed. Now whether he wanted an extension (his press release whereby he clarified that his words were taken out of context, the words being that he didnt seek extension), or wanted to checkmate Mansoor and by extension, hurt PTI one last time, or wanted to curb judicial overreach or ensure legislative overeach is all up for debate.
@@ThePakistanExperiencebrother the timing matters. Via ordinance he brought in justice Establishment no1 in PPA, then made a bench of like-minded judges to overturn 63A. Qazi likewise tried his best to overturn reserved seat judgement but he couldn't as he was in minority, he delayed the session 2 times for judges to review the decision. Moreover, Pti's election papers were being snatched, ECP wasn't giving them symbol even before 13 January decision. Then 8 Feb , then 9 happened. Everyone knew what happened in 8feb elections. Did qazi take action on the election? Instead didn't qazi tried his best to hand over the seats to noon? He may not be the worst judge in history but he is one of the many testicles of establishment. Baaki judiciary is the biggest culprit in this condition of Pakistan, they never tried to impose law but sided with army. Allah ghark kare inn judges ko
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unsubscribing u and u're heating blood of patwaries and now we all can understand that what u're. the man who's appreciating qazi then he's fraudi like qazi fraudi. shame on u , u'as totally presenting only one side to get admire by qazi fans but get mic and do survey , its a challenge for u , ask about qazi fraudi, and why he said extension sub ko mily loonga and jb kaha nhi lengy sth hii press release aayi yeh munafikat chorden, jisny mansoor ko chief nhi banany diya ,bilawel nai khud kaha k qazi k baghair na mumkin tha, kitna jhoot bolty hu, aaj yakeen hua,muneeb par ilzam ku lgae? mansoor ko deceive ku kisny kiya? kon bhjta rha news judges ki court sy? amin ko ku dala within mins notification aya jo tayar tha? election tribunals, 8 feb election, 13 jan jis din symbol alloting last datee thii ,,, pti ki recount kr k seats ppp ko diiin, military court ko revive kiya, 6 judges k letter ki proceeding lga k prospone kiya, journalist pr dolar khor huny ka ilzam, judges ko tokna hate sy bolna, lawyers sy batmeezi,yeh kamray beth k studio khul k one side picture pesh krna asan hai,,,, kab ticket de rhy pmln wly ? what about islamic uni matter that he started court trail in group meeting and what he did in court with rector? just do podcast of mati asad maryam nawaz khan hasnat saqib zulqarnain sohail rashed qamber etc they will tell truth bcz they saw directly and u r supporting a man due to hating imra khan shame/who took shehzad malik to sc when he was acting like a umberella against interefrence after resistance of atc court judges?
I like the fact that how @ThePakistanExperience provides the narrative which is another perspective against the popular narrative the more I listen to him the more I learn and feel confident about the decision that is why I am rooting for the perspectives against him. QFI's tenure as a CJP is nothing short but a sham he may be strictly by the book judge as you mentioned most of the time in this video and I agree with that because the book he strictly followed is called Book of Vendetta
His name does poetic justice to his legacy! He was ‘Faez’ (appointed) a ‘Qazi’ (judge) and like ‘Isa’ he has been hounded for standing up for the truth but history will surely vindicate him.
@@09blackyy unsubscribing u and u're heating blood of patwaries and now we all can understand that what u're. the man who's appreciating qazi then he's fraudi like qazi fraudi. shame on u , u'as totally presenting only one side to get admire by qazi fans but get mic and do survey , its a challenge for u , ask about qazi fraudi, and why he said extension sub ko mily loonga and jb kaha nhi lengy sth hii press release aayi yeh munafikat chorden, jisny mansoor ko chief nhi banany diya ,bilawel nai khud kaha k qazi k baghair na mumkin tha, kitna jhoot bolty hu, aaj yakeen hua,muneeb par ilzam ku lgae? mansoor ko deceive ku kisny kiya? kon bhjta rha news judges ki court sy? amin ko ku dala within mins notification aya jo tayar tha? election tribunals, 8 feb election, 13 jan jis din symbol alloting last datee thii ,,, pti ki recount kr k seats ppp ko diiin, military court ko revive kiya, 6 judges k letter ki proceeding lga k prospone kiya, journalist pr dolar khor huny ka ilzam, judges ko tokna hate sy bolna, lawyers sy batmeezi,yeh kamray beth k studio khul k one side picture pesh krna asan hai,,,, kab ticket de rhy pmln wly ?
unsubscribing u and u're heating blood of patwaries and now we all can understand that what u're. the man who's appreciating qazi then he's fraudi like qazi fraudi. shame on u , u'as totally presenting only one side to get admire by qazi fans but get mic and do survey , its a challenge for u , ask about qazi fraudi, and why he said extension sub ko mily loonga and jb kaha nhi lengy sth hii press release aayi yeh munafikat chorden, jisny mansoor ko chief nhi banany diya ,bilawel nai khud kaha k qazi k baghair na mumkin tha, kitna jhoot bolty hu, aaj yakeen hua,muneeb par ilzam ku lgae? mansoor ko deceive ku kisny kiya? kon bhjta rha news judges ki court sy? amin ko ku dala within mins notification aya jo tayar tha? election tribunals, 8 feb election, 13 jan jis din symbol alloting last datee thii ,,, pti ki recount kr k seats ppp ko diiin, military court ko revive kiya, 6 judges k letter ki proceeding lga k prospone kiya, journalist pr dolar khor huny ka ilzam, judges ko tokna hate sy bolna, lawyers sy batmeezi,yeh kamray beth k studio khul k one side picture pesh krna asan hai,,,, kab ticket de rhy pmln wly ?
@@09blackyy what about islamic uni matter that he started court trail in group meeting and what he did in court with rector? just do podcast of mati asad maryam nawaz khan hasnat saqib zulqarnain sohail rashed qamber etc they will tell truth bcz they saw directly and u r supporting a man due to hating imra khan shame/
what about islamic uni matter that he started court trail in group meeting and what he did in court with rector? just do podcast of mati asad maryam nawaz khan hasnat saqib zulqarnain sohail rashed qamber etc they will tell truth bcz they saw directly and u r supporting a man due to hating imra khan shame/
CORRECTION!!! Shehzad is unintentionally misleading the audience regarding Practice & Procedure Act (PPA). It came during Bandeyal tenure, Govt used Qazi to weaken Bandeyal to ensure the delay of elections, and successfully divided the court with 4/3 7/5 discussions led by Qazi. Qazi then kept PPA intact, bcz he was secure with Qazi-Sardar-Shah combo. Your video has completely ignored the Justice Sardar factor. Once he retired, Qazi lost majority in PPA committee, in Qazi-Shah-Munib combo, therefore "Surprisingly" Govt brought another Ordinance overnight, and Qazi kicked Munib out of PPA, even skipped Afridi, and handpicked the 5th judge. This is now reversed by Afridi, as his first action, and Munib is back in PPA. The way Qazi and Govt used to time their actions was beautifully evil.
Another CORRECTION!!! Shehzad kept misleading audience, that Qazi had no link with 26th amendment. "As matter of fact", Qazi made sure to hand over multiple seats to Govt during his last few weeks, prior to amendment. He allowed ECP to change results, surpassing tribunals, which on the basis of "Recount", took 3 seats from PTI and gave those to Govt. Qazi also made sure that no tribunals remain functional. So that PTI could not get its seats back. His last judgement was another attempt to empower Govt & ECP, suggesting that they CAN ignore the reserved seat judgement, without consequence. Similarly, he took over PPA, to timely set a fixed bench for 63A case, to Govt can timely pick up MNAs/Senators for ammendment. Another fact is that the original failed attempt of 26th amendment had clauses that ensured Qazi's extension. Maulana's unexpected revolt messed up that plan. Another "timely" decision of qazi was the way he facilitated Nawaz during his return. I guess all was set, for extension, the first blow was from the public on 8th Feb, that was not expected, 2nd came from Maulana, and Qazi lost the extension.
@@ThePakistanExperience , reasons??? seriously? Who in this country does not have "REASONS" for their actions? So kindly and simply check out the timing of this action, and the motive. Forget about what he says about it. You have already given him a lot of margin. The whole point of PPA was that CJP should not become dictator, and Qazi did exactly that, as soon he lost majority. He even delayed a PPA meeting, as he secretly knew that Govt will bring ordinance to return powers to CJP overnight. And the very next day, he kicked out Munib, and even skipped Afridi, and handpicked Amin, his favorite, after Sardar's retirement.
So being a hazara is being lesser in pakistan. By the way this is law & order & justice in pakistan ruclips.net/video/UfoYXlSM0N8/видео.htmlsi=w9C9kBEsFPWrG8gk
Qazi was not pro PMLN or Pro Establishment. He was anti PTI and that too because PTI dragged him through the mud. His wrath became his unbecoming - one of the seven deadly sins.
He was not anti PTI either. He just adjudged in accordance with law and constitution. He didn't want the judiciary to interfere with the work of the parliament or the election commission as long as they worked within their legal and constitutional limits.
Is it fair to say you’ve given Imran Khan a fair shot? This is why PTI supporters accuse you of bias. During his tenure, he collaborated with the establishment and compromised judicial independence, much like his successor as Chief Justice. Fair shot? He backed down from his own stance on bench formation by ordinance, supported the establishment by altering the Article 63A decision to allow PTI members to vote differently, and remained silent on human rights violations from Balochistan to Gwadar. Defending him on a few scattered points only seems to justify his arrogance. By that standard, shouldn’t Bandial and Saqib also deserve a fair chance?
Lets be honest, Qazi Faiz Issa only face hatred just because of religious matter of Ahmadiyya community, which people dont understand. Even his that judgement was inline with humanity and nothing wrong. But it shows as a nation what we have become now, only hatred and extremist views are accepted here in Pakistan.
TLP used to hate him since faizabad dharna led by faiz hamid. They tried to tarnish his image since then, this ahmedia thing was also backed by them to show their old hatred against him. Otherwise they would have never dared to say anything to someone else for mere giving a verdict . The problem is that parties like PTI supported this radical group , even though their own leader was shot on the leg by the same TLP guy and even in IK’s own era TLP tried to bring chaos everywhere. But yet they supported their stance by going to this Ice cream shop to show their support to this Radical group.
As usual a complete fake narrative. Qazi fiaz isa is undoubtly the worst CJ in the history of pakistan (please don't try to protect him with his before CJ actions as it don't come under question of being worst CJ of Pakistan), though he never was antiestablishment, he was pro noon league in that era.. As CJ he is the worst because previous judges somehow targeted an individual e.g. bhutto, nawaz etc, but Qazi targeted a complete political party and to some extend people of pakistan while denying them to vote for their preferred political party. Every action he took after becoming CJ of pakistan was to facilitate Noon League+establishment against PTI. Every single action.. So there is no comparison at all..
@@ThePakistanExperience Typical of you. When intellectually challenged, and you dont have answer, you bring your asal "aukat" by abusing those who differ from you. Grow up
@@ThePakistanExperience Lol, so you as a dictator will also decide who do you think comes under category of challenging you intellectually :) Ofcourse i disagree with your views (when it comes to PTI) but i won't abuse you like you always do whenever challenged. So yes, intellectually i am perhaps in better state than you :)
He was one of the Biggest sell out in Pakistan's Judicial History. Asad Ali Toor has done explanatory video on it. Explaining why he was very aggressive against QFI's conduct, although he was abducted by ISI during PTI Era. Defending QFI and exposing the PTI Goverment during reference against QFI lead to his Abduction. Meanwhile a so-called Journalist went to London, and had various meetings with Nawaz Sharif and that Journalist approached QFI after his return. QFI welcomed this gesture from Nawaz, and kind of pledged his support. At the beginning, Asad Ali Toor never believed this and waited till QFI became Chief and kept on observing him. After Bat Symbol decision, Toor came to a conclusion and later found out that he was also involved with the Boys. The Boys had him in their Pocket and since then Qazi worked by leaps and Bounds for his extension. His extension was doomed after Reserve Seats Decision, so he punished Mansoor Ali Shah by accepting the Ordinance, although he was critical of the Presidential Ordinances before becoming cheaf and criticized PTI Government with a Term (Ordinance Factory). Here is the Link to Asad Ali Toor's Video: ruclips.net/video/FOokWW8bhRg/видео.htmlsi=74_-oW0D7C624x1x
Dear Shahzad! firstly that wasn't a review petition, majority judges mentioned in the judgement that if ecp wants to clarify anything then ecp can consult us (8 judges) in chamber. Review of any judgement is heard by the judges and all the procedure is done of constituting the bench etc. But this wasn't the case in the reserved seats case.
Bhai ap imran khan ki recordings sunna kro aurtoun k sath, ye baatein apky youthia pan k lye harmfull hain😂 Ab agr abuse krogy tou galli b suno gy, bardasht rkhna phr
Could it be Shahzad that you are doing the very same thing of which you are accusing others of..... You mentioned in video if you are for/against Qazi Faiz Issa depends on if you are a PTI supporter or not. So basically the views are tainted by a party bias. Well when he became CJP many welcomed him, like for example journalist who covered the Supreme Court on a daily basis, journalist like Mati-ullah Jan, Asad Toor. They have also been very critical of his conduct. One can agree or disagree with their views but one can't say that they are pro PTI. Infact they have been trolled by PTI, when a reference was made against the Supreme Court Judge Faiz Issa. So your point doesn't add up.
@@ThePakistanExperience lol your language says a lot, btw yes, everything is divided in pro PTI and anti-PTI in Pakistan, agr hum pro waly hain to anti to ap be hain, you have made video on why you hate PTI, if someone would make video on why they love PTI , you ll label them as someone who is creating rift in the society, destroying the social fabric and following a cult leader. So if you think you are in the anti camp you are creating the division as well.
Hi Shahzad, i think you are reporting on this with your personal bias. Mansoor Ali Shah, the senior most judge in the Pakistan today has "in written" called out Fayez Essa for all the mess that he has created. In the ditches that we are in, Esa's role is no different than saqib nisar before him (just choosing to side with the other end of the specturum). These bafoons have caused a great deal of damage to the national cause and would not be remembered any different from the "Nazrya e zaroorat" walay justice munir!
You haven’t watched the video so you’re commenting with your personal bias rather than addressing anything I’ve said, if you had watched you would have found Smash’s letter in it.
@@ThePakistanExperience I actually havent seen the end till the video. I saved it for the evening. Let me check that out and correct myself if that is the case :)
unsubscribing u and u're heating blood of patwaries and now we all can understand that what u're. the man who's appreciating qazi then he's fraudi like qazi fraudi. shame on u , u'as totally presenting only one side to get admire by qazi fans but get mic and do survey , its a challenge for u , ask about qazi fraudi, and why he said extension sub ko mily loonga and jb kaha nhi lengy sth hii press release aayi yeh munafikat chorden, jisny mansoor ko chief nhi banany diya ,bilawel nai khud kaha k qazi k baghair na mumkin tha, kitna jhoot bolty hu, aaj yakeen hua,muneeb par ilzam ku lgae? mansoor ko deceive ku kisny kiya? kon bhjta rha news judges ki court sy? amin ko ku dala within mins notification aya jo tayar tha? election tribunals, 8 feb election, 13 jan jis din symbol alloting last datee thii ,,, pti ki recount kr k seats ppp ko diiin, military court ko revive kiya, 6 judges k letter ki proceeding lga k prospone kiya, journalist pr dolar khor huny ka ilzam, judges ko tokna hate sy bolna, lawyers sy batmeezi,yeh kamray beth k studio khul k one side picture pesh krna asan hai,,,, kab ticket de rhy pmln wly ?
بہت بہترین شہزاد 👍👍👍👍 ویسے یہ " بلے" والا فیصلہ اتنا کوئی پی ٹی ائی پر عذاب نہیں جتنا پروپگینڈہ ہے۔ ہم نے بچپن میں پی پی پیکے پاس تلوار دیکھی اور جب ووٹ دینے کی عمر ائی تو تلوار تیر بن چکی تھی انہوں نے تو اتنی دہائیاں نہیں ڈالیں 😂
In More than an hour's video you started from his start of the career to end discussed lot of things in his favour and in opposition just said he did not do enough in that case . Also didn't mention about the letter from 6 high court judges regarding establishment's interference
I think faez iza was a judge that, though initially, seemed to stand for justice and constitutional principles, was made partisan by his own misgivings along partisan lines and has made decisions that will, on some level, irrevocably tarnish his future reputation. When he held that the will of parliamentarians must be accepted during vote of no confidence, or called for a reduction of his own powers during the practice and procedure case, bringing to an end the perceived judicial norm of 'master of the roster' these decisions seemed to be influenced by a sincere belief in the rule of law. However his position on the election symbol vote (which is beyond hypocritical in a country that functions on dynastic politics), him calling into question the decision of his peers in relation to reserved seats, almost to the extent of telling MNAs and ECP officials to disregard it, and him taking a U-turn by taking no strong action against an ordinance that essentially reversed the practice and procedure law that he had previously supported, giving the Chief justice greater powers to influence the decisions and functions of the court, reflect a judge that seems to have no sincere alignment with the judicial principles that many once expected of him. I know politicians often try to overly politicize judicial activity for their own gain (whats happening w Mansoor Ali Shah) but QFA, for all these reasons, will not be remembered fondly with the passage of time
As a law student I am well aware of this fact that constitution is an ever changing document. As a Muslim state we should focus more on Muslim principles in which courts are above executive
A little fact-check would be beneficial. Until March 10, 2024, Qazi Faez Isa, Sardar Tariq Masood, and Mansoor Ali Shah were members of the Practice and Procedure Committee. Justice Isa was not giving away his powers; rather, he was sharing them with Sardar Tariq Masood, whose credibility is well known. Then, as soon as Muneeb Akhtar joined the committee, Justice Isa lost the majority. We all know what transpired after that.
Where did he get the money to buy his alleged houses/apartments in U.K, any chance of getting a money trail from him ( Justice Faiz Isa ) in our lifetime ?
@@ThePakistanExperience You mean Justice Qazi Faiz Isa ( Retd. ) will rent a house to live in London ( UK ). I doubt that…. Now you Google that how much are his alleged houses in UK…. Stop serving the Duffers. 😂😂😂
Its quite clear that he was pro nawaz judge, bar councils helped him in the reference time which were sponsored by pmln, facilitated nawaz to comeback and nawaz made the bond between qazi and military, and the nexus worked against PTI - its simple story - and every judge is a very good judge before coming to supreme court.
It's evident that Justice QFI held an impressive track record as a judge prior to assuming the position of Chief Justice. It would have been valuable if SGS had provided a scoring or ranking system throughout his analysis, as this would have helped to quantify Justice QFI's legacy in a more structured way. Justice QFI demonstrated two contrasting sides in his legal strengths: he was exemplary before becoming Chief Justice, yet his performance reportedly declined afterward. When PTI was in power, they acknowledged a misstep in their approach toward Justice QFI, an admission made publicly. However, upon becoming Chief Justice, Justice QFI’s conduct reportedly revealed his depth of knowledge, judicial acumen, and at times, perhaps his ego. SGS, while aiming for impartiality in discussions regarding PTI, occasionally appears to fall into a confirmation bias, which may impact the objectivity of his assessments. 1/2
@@ThePakistanExperience You are absolutely right, but at the beginning, you started and left swiftly. Whatever the points you raised in this video score them. I did and the results were not encouraging.
Laws are made so that democracy will not become the tyranny of the majority..... Mujhe nhi lgta k ye koi reasoning theek nhi k majority ko nuksaan ho rha tha
as you said QFI should not have sat in cases against pti due to his bias. similarly you are also biased against imran khan and pti. with that being said I do agree with you on most of the things.
Wow, Shehzad claims that he is going to give a "Neutral and Unbiased" evaluation of Qazi Esa :D The man who didn't bother to criticize him ONCE!!!!! during the entire tenure, has now come to rescue his legacy :D Much better profile videos could be made on Bandeyal, Khosa, and many more. Qazi was just a bully and a mediocre judge, nothing else.
In nutshell Respected Qazi Faez Isa Sahb had a personality trait of having very strong likes and dislikes as referred by present CJP in full court ceference held on 25 Oct. He was very intelligent and learned jurist. But unfortunately he used all his abilities to harm a person(and his party) whom he disliked.
Very well balanced detailed overview of QFI's career both good and bad. One small thing you didn't mention was his acceptance of the ordinance that restored CJ's monopoly in the bench forming committee. He used it to replace Muneeb with Amin
I'm not sure what you mean by saying that he refused the PCO. He was not a judge of the High Court when the PCO was instituted, and, to my knowledge, he was never offered a judgeship during the PCO period either. He directly became the Chief Justice of the BHC after Iftikhar Chaudhry's return in 2009. He never had the opportunity to refuse taking the oath under the PCO.
PCO judges case On 3 November 2007, then-President Pervez Musharraf declared a Provisional Constitutional Order (PCO), which declared a state of emergency and suspended the Constitution. Under this emergency law, all judges were asked to take oath under this order and those who didn't were placed under house arrest. A seven-member bench issued a restraining order on the same day, barring the government from implementing emergency rule and urging other government officials to not help do so. Justice Isa was among the judges who refused to take oath. On 3 November 2007, a restraining order was issued by a seven-member bench of the Supreme Court to bar the government from implementing emergency rule.
@@ThePakistanExperience This is incorrect. Until 2009, QFI was a lawyer based in Karachi, not a judge. He even mentioned in his farewell reference speech that he discussed his appointment as CJ BHC with his law firm partner (presumably Ahsan Rizvi sb of RIAA) before accepting it.
If we take into account the political context, social scenarios and moral values with the constitution/judgments, then wouldn't it abolish the need/purpose of the "constitution"... Just a thought!???
@@ThePakistanExperience So the judgement based on morals and "niyyats" is wrong (like QFI did) but the judgement "should be" (it is not compulsory) based upon the context and social and political situation....
@@ThePakistanExperience I completely agree with the blights you mentioned on QFI's career... But the main reason that he is getting trolled and not the respect that he earned is not supporting the agenda of PTI (more specifically one person IK)... If we see from a "neutral" lens, he can be in the top judges of SC in Pakistan?
We supported Jutice Qazi Faiz Isa till he became the chief justice of pk.. Now as he is retired & left more so now its a high time he should openly speak..
Qazi fiaz issa ko awam ko moun hi nahi lagana tha his big blunder is live broadcast of court hearing most of lawers exposed.miltory establishment plus islamic extremist say head on.How can we expect he will be not blamed. I am soo happy to hear your velog you are such young generation to understand all truth
You mentioned if you are for/against Qazi Faiz Issa depends on if you are a PTI supporter or not. So basically the views are tainted by a party bias. Well when he became CJP many welcomed him, like for example journalist who covered the Supreme Court on a daily basis, journalist like Mati-ullah Jan, Asad Toor. They have also been very critical of his conduct. One can agree or disagree with their views but one can't say that they are pro PTI. Infact they have been trolled by PTI, when a reference was made against the Supreme Court Judge Faiz Issa. So your point doesn't add up.
unsubscribing u and u're heating blood of patwaries and now we all can understand that what u're. the man who's appreciating qazi then he's fraudi like qazi fraudi. shame on u , u'as totally presenting only one side to get admire by qazi fans but get mic and do survey , its a challenge for u , ask about qazi fraudi, and why he said extension sub ko mily loonga and jb kaha nhi lengy sth hii press release aayi yeh munafikat chorden, jisny mansoor ko chief nhi banany diya ,bilawel nai khud kaha k qazi k baghair na mumkin tha, kitna jhoot bolty hu, aaj yakeen hua,muneeb par ilzam ku lgae? mansoor ko deceive ku kisny kiya? kon bhjta rha news judges ki court sy? amin ko ku dala within mins notification aya jo tayar tha? election tribunals, 8 feb election, 13 jan jis din symbol alloting last datee thii ,,, pti ki recount kr k seats ppp ko diiin, military court ko revive kiya, 6 judges k letter ki proceeding lga k prospone kiya, journalist pr dolar khor huny ka ilzam, judges ko tokna hate sy bolna, lawyers sy batmeezi,yeh kamray beth k studio khul k one side picture pesh krna asan hai,,,, kab ticket de rhy pmln wly ? what about islamic uni matter that he started court trail in group meeting and what he did in court with rector? just do podcast of mati asad maryam nawaz khan hasnat saqib zulqarnain sohail rashed qamber etc they will tell truth bcz they saw directly and u r supporting a man due to hating imra khan shame/who took shehzad malik to sc when he was acting like a umberella against interefrence after resistance of atc court judges?
قاضی فائز عیسی - پاکستان کی نہیں بلکہ قاضی القضا کی اسلامی دھندلی تاریخ میں اگر قاضی شوریح ایک طرف کردار، عدل اور انسانیت کے زمرے میں پست ترین پستیوں میں نظر آتا ہے تو نیک نام اور قائد اعظم کے ساتھی قاضی عیسی کا بیٹا فائز عیسی بطور قاضی القضا کردار، عدل، انسانیت اور گفتار کے زمروں میں آسمان کے بلندیوں پہ نظر آتے ہیں - اللہ پاک ان کی حفاظت فرمائے اور ان کی زندگی صحت اور خوشیوں سے بھر پور رہے، آمین میرا سلام قاضی فائز صاحب کو 🫡😍❤️
@@ThePakistanExperience kuch tout aisy bhi hain jo Democratic hony ka natak tu krty hain pr bry hi calculated andaz main neutrals ka narrative promote krty hain.
Great video... Almost agree with everything you said.... Although I think the bat symbol case is another huge plus in his career. And you somehow had to bend your concept of sticking to the law to criticize it. Which is not what judges are supposed to do. Qazi was absolutely spot on in that judgement. I haven't really followed details of memogate to comment. But yes... Not dealing with Balochistans missing persons issue will be the biggest regret from qazi esa. Also, he should have went very hard in getting the letter by 6 judges investigated. And I think he should have took up and pushed the case of Arshad sharif as well. Those 3 would be the biggest regrets of qazi esa era.... And that is also because we expected him to really do so so much.
As per book a Qazi can't be biased in terms of his judgements. This is the basic principle to qualify a Judge. Qazi failed this test and that's the fact. All other justifications can be modeled in favour or against.
Bro you are a great manipulator. In fact the best propagandist. Look the way you twisted the facts by saying he never went for extension. If you think you are only intelligent then go to hell buddy. Everyone knew PML and PPP wanted to make a constitutional court in which they wanted to install traitor Faiz Isa
And Shahzad would you be kind enough to list all the things that you ask the viewers to read in the description, as I believe this will really help viewers like me, who really intend to read.
What about the 6 judges letter, not taking any action is bigger mistake than “Bat” decision i think. A chief justice could-not protect the judges who are supposed to protect the general public, not taking any action on that is a blunder.
Excellent video. But i have one question or concern, the entire youth who saw the tiktok clip of thet donut shop incident, how many of those are gonna watch this one hour video and then realize the dilemma of polarization? I think literal zero percent. TPE is great initiative to counter the IK cult mindset but i think those who listen TPE are already not part of that cult. I hope i am wrong.
Faez ISa is a Devil of Justiciary because he always tried to find weakness of our local to favor Nawaz Sharif rather than using he strength of our local laws. Actually he is a good actor in the role of Villain
Justice Mansoor Ali Shah has himself brought this doom upon himself and the people of Pakistan. No doubt one of the brilliant judges of Pakistan who compromised his own elevation for the love of PTI and Imran Khan.He has ruined his own brilliant future for the love of Imran Khan and when time came Imran Khan chose his wife's freedom at the cost of Mansoor Ali Shah's position as chief justice of Pakistan. As for Mr Qazi Fayez Issa, a man of character and principle. Shehzad has put up the whole argument brilliantly. Love the way you have fully presented most of the facts for all kind of minds out there.
Shahzad in case of Monal, don't you think instead of putting all the financial burden on the owner of restaurant, QFE shoukd have gotten the army answerable as to why they sold public property of a private business? Also considering this, shouldn't he have accommodated the business for something he wasn't a part of?
This is a fascinating deep dive into Chief Justice Qazi Faez Isa's life and legacy! His role in Pakistan's judiciary is incredibly significant, and it's crucial to explore the complexities of his career. Whether viewed as a constitutionalist or a sellout, his impact on the legal landscape has been profound. This conversation sheds light on the challenges and nuances faced by those in power. Kudos to The Pakistan Experience for tackling such important topics! Looking forward to more insightful discussions.
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Brother u are a sell out
@@muhammadshahab9387 at least he didnt order mercedes for a ghari chor and said good to see you!.....pti ko aap jaisay log bohot andar lay kar chaltay ho side pay to dur ki baat! lol....wadda aya!
unsubscribing u and u're heating blood of patwaries and now we all can understand that what u're. the man who's appreciating qazi then he's fraudi like qazi fraudi. shame on u , u'as totally presenting only one side to get admire by qazi fans but get mic and do survey , its a challenge for u , ask about qazi fraudi, and why he said extension sub ko mily loonga and jb kaha nhi lengy sth hii press release aayi yeh munafikat chorden, jisny mansoor ko chief nhi banany diya ,bilawel nai khud kaha k qazi k baghair na mumkin tha, kitna jhoot bolty hu, aaj yakeen hua,muneeb par ilzam ku lgae? mansoor ko deceive ku kisny kiya? kon bhjta rha news judges ki court sy? amin ko ku dala within mins notification aya jo tayar tha? election tribunals, 8 feb election, 13 jan jis din symbol alloting last datee thii ,,, pti ki recount kr k seats ppp ko diiin, military court ko revive kiya, 6 judges k letter ki proceeding lga k prospone kiya, journalist pr dolar khor huny ka ilzam, judges ko tokna hate sy bolna, lawyers sy batmeezi,yeh kamray beth k studio khul k one side picture pesh krna asan hai,,,, kab ticket de rhy pmln wly ? what about islamic uni matter that he started court trail in group meeting and what he did in court with rector? just do podcast of mati asad maryam nawaz khan hasnat saqib zulqarnain sohail rashed qamber etc they will tell truth bcz they saw directly and u r supporting a man due to hating imra khan shame/who took shehzad malik to sc when he was acting like a umberella against interefrence after resistance of atc court judges?
@@muhammadhayat4218 unsubscribing u and u're heating blood of patwaries and now we all can understand that what u're. the man who's appreciating qazi then he's fraudi like qazi fraudi. shame on u , u'as totally presenting only one side to get admire by qazi fans but get mic and do survey , its a challenge for u , ask about qazi fraudi, and why he said extension sub ko mily loonga and jb kaha nhi lengy sth hii press release aayi yeh munafikat chorden, jisny mansoor ko chief nhi banany diya ,bilawel nai khud kaha k qazi k baghair na mumkin tha, kitna jhoot bolty hu, aaj yakeen hua,muneeb par ilzam ku lgae? mansoor ko deceive ku kisny kiya? kon bhjta rha news judges ki court sy? amin ko ku dala within mins notification aya jo tayar tha? election tribunals, 8 feb election, 13 jan jis din symbol alloting last datee thii ,,, pti ki recount kr k seats ppp ko diiin, military court ko revive kiya, 6 judges k letter ki proceeding lga k prospone kiya, journalist pr dolar khor huny ka ilzam, judges ko tokna hate sy bolna, lawyers sy batmeezi,yeh kamray beth k studio khul k one side picture pesh krna asan hai,,,, kab ticket de rhy pmln wly ? what about islamic uni matter that he started court trail in group meeting and what he did in court with rector? just do podcast of mati asad maryam nawaz khan hasnat saqib zulqarnain sohail rashed qamber etc they will tell truth bcz they saw directly and u r supporting a man due to hating imra khan shame/who took shehzad malik to sc when he was acting like a umberella against interefrence after resistance of atc court judges?
It's like doing a program on General Musharraf's military career and praising him for his achievements before becoming COAS. He surely would have had many achievements during his military career, but should we praise him for that or should we focus on his tenure as COAS and what he did during that period.
Qazi Isa's legacy will only be determined by his tenure as CJP, not his whole career.
I believe Qazi faez Isa was a very good judge but as CJP, he proved to be overall bad for judiciary (just like many of his predecessors).
Nearly all men can stand adversity. But if you want to test a man's character, give him power.
- Abraham Lincoln
All his judgements as CJP were also very sound. He followed the laws and the constitution regardless of whether they were helping or hurting Imran Khan's quest to power.
The analysis presented is flawed. Court reporters who had once supported Qazi Faez Isa through difficult periods, including during Bandial’s tenure, distanced themselves when he became Chief Justice, becoming some of his most vocal critics. Similarly, judges and lawyers who had previously backed him during the reference proceedings ultimately turned against him during his tenure. This shift seemed to arise from the perception that Isa was more aligned with a pro-PML-N, anti-PTI stance rather than maintaining an anti-establishment position. Throughout his time as Chief Justice, Isa appeared unable to move past his grievances with PTI and Imran Khan, which, according to former allies-including judges, journalists, and lawyers-resulted in a weakened judicial system in Pakistan. Journalists not affiliated with PTI, such as Asad Toor and Matiullah Jan, have also voiced similar concerns. Furthermore, the corruption charges against Isa were never proven false; instead, Isa approached the Supreme Court to suspend proceedings against him in the Supreme Judicial Council on the basis of 'malified' . This decision has raised questions, as Article 210 clearly stipulates that Supreme Judicial Council proceedings cannot be challenged in any court of law, seemingly at odds with Isa’s portrayal as a “strict constitutionalist.” Also, the evidence was against QFI and he was not able to prove his innocence in SJC. Additionally, the bat symbol ruling has been criticized as unconstitutional because it relied on the Election Act to justify the decision while disregarding Article 17, which guarantees political party rights. He is one of the worst cheif justice Pakistan has seen if not the worst.
So the evidence I’ve presented is flawed because some people have a different perception?
Perceptions aren’t facts.
Your own leader in May 2024 praised QFI. Itna hee always anti PTI that QFI toh was Imran khan lying then?
Watch the full video you might change your mind
@@ThePakistanExperience I have presented you the reasoning. IK saying him brave was just a move to make Qazi less hostile, which by the way was wrong as IK was trying to get favor out of it. However, I disputed your arguments with facts, let me know if any of it is wrong. Your potrayal of him as 'strict consittuonalist' is not right as he is one of the few judges who have declared a contitutional ammendment to be ultra vires the constitution which is not possible to do under the constitution as contitutional ammendment cannot be challanged in court. So in all my facts are pretty straight. I have watched the video and though we can argue his tenure as a judge was mixed but as cheif justice pakistan, it was only a bad tenure.
People’s perception isn’t reasoning.
Your constitutional amendment line isn’t coherent. What do you even mean to say
@@ThePakistanExperience Qazi Faez Isa removed a constitutional ammendment that was challanged which under constitution of 1973 is not allowed as any ammendment to constitution cannot be challanged and therefore removed by court
This video sounded more like a fluff piece than an honest critique. If one wants to read an honest piece on Isa's legacy they ought to read Dawn and ET's latest editorials on Isa and should also watch Abdul Moiz Jaferi's interview on Raftar.
Isa was elevated by Iftikhar Chaudhary and eventually turned into another Chaudhary. While Chaudhary was a tout for the Sharifs, Isa became a lackey for the establishment. This podcast was a sad attempt at rewriting history.
Isa was a vindictive, petty and a small man and it was unfortunate for Pakistan that he ended up as the CJP. He was the Munir of our generation.
Thank you. If you believe in fantasies and propaganda it is a huge honour for me that you didn’t like this video.
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So as per you Abdul Moiz Jeffery is also indulging in propaganda?... so he is a PTI stooge?
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So Abdul Moiz Jafferi also believes in fantasies? or is he just another "Youthia" as you would put it..
What absolute bilge. Only an utter moron, read diseased youthar, would be so completely subjective. Want t o see petty , myopic & stupid, look no further rather than your party leadership, split asunder & every which way as it is lollz
Youthar faisal speaking out of his youthar . Amazed how devoid of reason , subjective & dumb bushra's cult actually is
I don't know if many people are going to watch this one from start till finish but thank you Shahzad. This was much needed.
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Qazi sahib had a very good reputation before becoming chief justice of Pakistan. After becoming chief justice, some of the biggest blunders are his stance about 6 judges letter case (threat). Other than that, if he was from Balochistan then he should have taken steps to stop those disappearances. After he became chief, disappearances started happening even in punjab on basis of just political differences. I think you should watch aitzaz ahsan's point of view about him.
I think you should watch mine also.
You also missed, or may be didn't know, the way Qazi attempted to stuff Supreme Court with like-Minded retired judges, as adhoc appointments. After he realized that he has lost majority. He managed to bring in 2 out of total 4 retired judges, all nominated by him. You also missed the way he handled the letter from 6 Islamabad High Court Judges. Threw them at the mercy of wolves. He actually killed all points of his legacy with his own hands: recused from sitting in bench for military courts, which he once criticized; took-over PPA committee which he once advocated and created; denied live-steaming in Imran's case, which he initiated; made changes in decision when opposed by religious groups. Did everything as per establishment's need.
An absolutely amazing video, and a really balanced, measured, and rational analysis of his career; not reducing his entire career to the past one year. I had high hopes for Justice Esa, to say the least I was disappointing by his performance in the past one year; but then again he was by far one of better Justices.
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unsubscribing u and u're heating blood of patwaries and now we all can understand that what u're. the man who's appreciating qazi then he's fraudi like qazi fraudi. shame on u , u'as totally presenting only one side to get admire by qazi fans but get mic and do survey , its a challenge for u , ask about qazi fraudi, and why he said extension sub ko mily loonga and jb kaha nhi lengy sth hii press release aayi yeh munafikat chorden, jisny mansoor ko chief nhi banany diya ,bilawel nai khud kaha k qazi k baghair na mumkin tha, kitna jhoot bolty hu, aaj yakeen hua,muneeb par ilzam ku lgae? mansoor ko deceive ku kisny kiya? kon bhjta rha news judges ki court sy? amin ko ku dala within mins notification aya jo tayar tha? election tribunals, 8 feb election, 13 jan jis din symbol alloting last datee thii ,,, pti ki recount kr k seats ppp ko diiin, military court ko revive kiya, 6 judges k letter ki proceeding lga k prospone kiya, journalist pr dolar khor huny ka ilzam, judges ko tokna hate sy bolna, lawyers sy batmeezi,yeh kamray beth k studio khul k one side picture pesh krna asan hai,,,, kab ticket de rhy pmln wly ?
Well the conduct as a CJ weighs much more that only as a Judge.
Actually also as a Judge he had authoritarian and narcissistic tendencies, only that when one CJP it becomes more highlighted. Ofcourse such a character trait can also be helpful to withstand tremendous pressure... like to which he was subjected to when a reference was filed against him. But this can also be very self destructive. A good example was the leaked audio of the Islamic University Board meeting... truly reflective of a authoritarian mindset. But the real issue is that previously he showed himself to be fighter for constitution and fundamental rights but ended up making a deal with the establishment.
@@user-rh5jp2sh4s unsubscribing u and u're heating blood of patwaries and now we all can understand that what u're. the man who's appreciating qazi then he's fraudi like qazi fraudi. shame on u , u'as totally presenting only one side to get admire by qazi fans but get mic and do survey , its a challenge for u , ask about qazi fraudi, and why he said extension sub ko mily loonga and jb kaha nhi lengy sth hii press release aayi yeh munafikat chorden, jisny mansoor ko chief nhi banany diya ,bilawel nai khud kaha k qazi k baghair na mumkin tha, kitna jhoot bolty hu, aaj yakeen hua,muneeb par ilzam ku lgae? mansoor ko deceive ku kisny kiya? kon bhjta rha news judges ki court sy? amin ko ku dala within mins notification aya jo tayar tha? election tribunals, 8 feb election, 13 jan jis din symbol alloting last datee thii ,,, pti ki recount kr k seats ppp ko diiin, military court ko revive kiya, 6 judges k letter ki proceeding lga k prospone kiya, journalist pr dolar khor huny ka ilzam, judges ko tokna hate sy bolna, lawyers sy batmeezi,yeh kamray beth k studio khul k one side picture pesh krna asan hai,,,, kab ticket de rhy pmln wly ? what about islamic uni matter that he started court trail in group meeting and what he did in court with rector? just do podcast of mati asad maryam nawaz khan hasnat saqib zulqarnain sohail rashed qamber etc they will tell truth bcz they saw directly and u r supporting a man due to hating imra khan shame/who took shehzad malik to sc when he was acting like a umberella against interefrence after resistance of atc court judges?
But he was a facilitator in massive rigging happened in recent elections. Its not about one party or seeing through imran khan's lens. he let the previous political traditions continue and gave open hand to establishment to do whatever they want. He could have set an example for future. Not allowing just one party to contest elections and turning a blind eye on events that took place near elections. Also saying stupid stuff like i am not aware of the current affairs because "i don't watch Television". Do you think all of this can be ignored and he can be judged only for his positive judgements?? I believe he did more harm than he did good.
His monal judgement is something i definitely appreciate even though i used to frequently visit there for enjoyment.
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@@ThePakistanExperience i know you highlighted these things as burden on his conscience. The weight of it is so heavy that i had to mention again :P
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unsubscribing u and u're heating blood of patwaries and now we all can understand that what u're. the man who's appreciating qazi then he's fraudi like qazi fraudi. shame on u , u'as totally presenting only one side to get admire by qazi fans but get mic and do survey , its a challenge for u , ask about qazi fraudi, and why he said extension sub ko mily loonga and jb kaha nhi lengy sth hii press release aayi yeh munafikat chorden, jisny mansoor ko chief nhi banany diya ,bilawel nai khud kaha k qazi k baghair na mumkin tha, kitna jhoot bolty hu, aaj yakeen hua,muneeb par ilzam ku lgae? mansoor ko deceive ku kisny kiya? kon bhjta rha news judges ki court sy? amin ko ku dala within mins notification aya jo tayar tha? election tribunals, 8 feb election, 13 jan jis din symbol alloting last datee thii ,,, pti ki recount kr k seats ppp ko diiin, military court ko revive kiya, 6 judges k letter ki proceeding lga k prospone kiya, journalist pr dolar khor huny ka ilzam, judges ko tokna hate sy bolna, lawyers sy batmeezi,yeh kamray beth k studio khul k one side picture pesh krna asan hai,,,, kab ticket de rhy pmln wly ?
The much awaited video. I was thinking of sending you the dm to make such video. Furthermore, the nation needs a crash course on rules of interpretation of law, please do make a video on it. As a lawyer, it hurts to see people reading law and legal matters like they would read a newspaper.
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He facilitated 26th amendment by giving ruling of 63A. As you argued the timing thing with bat symbol case, similarly timing of 63A decision makes it suspicious.
He changed the committee by excluding J. Muneeb.
These things along with other things made Isa suspicious regarding 26th amendment.
Did you read the 63-A short order?
It’s the absolutely correct reading of the law. No lawyer will say Umar ATA Bandials ruling was constitutional. Find me one lawyer of any worth who will defend Umar ATA Bandials judgment?
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unsubscribing u and u're heating blood of patwaries and now we all can understand that what u're. the man who's appreciating qazi then he's fraudi like qazi fraudi. shame on u , u'as totally presenting only one side to get admire by qazi fans but get mic and do survey , its a challenge for u , ask about qazi fraudi, and why he said extension sub ko mily loonga and jb kaha nhi lengy sth hii press release aayi yeh munafikat chorden, jisny mansoor ko chief nhi banany diya ,bilawel nai khud kaha k qazi k baghair na mumkin tha, kitna jhoot bolty hu, aaj yakeen hua,muneeb par ilzam ku lgae? mansoor ko deceive ku kisny kiya? kon bhjta rha news judges ki court sy? amin ko ku dala within mins notification aya jo tayar tha? election tribunals, 8 feb election, 13 jan jis din symbol alloting last datee thii ,,, pti ki recount kr k seats ppp ko diiin, military court ko revive kiya, 6 judges k letter ki proceeding lga k prospone kiya, journalist pr dolar khor huny ka ilzam, judges ko tokna hate sy bolna, lawyers sy batmeezi,yeh kamray beth k studio khul k one side picture pesh krna asan hai,,,, kab ticket de rhy pmln wly ?
@@ThePakistanExperience The ruling is spot on. No one should question that but the timing of the review, taking the help of an ordinance to kick out Muneeb specifically to fix this one case, ensuring the Govt have the luxury of turn-coats when he had prior knowledge of the amendment (he mentions it in his minority judgement of the reserved case) makes one suspect that he wanted the amendment to be passed. Now whether he wanted an extension (his press release whereby he clarified that his words were taken out of context, the words being that he didnt seek extension), or wanted to checkmate Mansoor and by extension, hurt PTI one last time, or wanted to curb judicial overreach or ensure legislative overeach is all up for debate.
@@ThePakistanExperiencebrother the timing matters. Via ordinance he brought in justice Establishment no1 in PPA, then made a bench of like-minded judges to overturn 63A.
Qazi likewise tried his best to overturn reserved seat judgement but he couldn't as he was in minority, he delayed the session 2 times for judges to review the decision.
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Pti's election papers were being snatched, ECP wasn't giving them symbol even before 13 January decision. Then 8 Feb , then 9 happened. Everyone knew what happened in 8feb elections.
Did qazi take action on the election?
Instead didn't qazi tried his best to hand over the seats to noon?
He may not be the worst judge in history but he is one of the many testicles of establishment.
Baaki judiciary is the biggest culprit in this condition of Pakistan, they never tried to impose law but sided with army. Allah ghark kare inn judges ko
I am giving you the 29th like may be one of the first from India, a big fan of your unbiased analysis👍🏻, A surgeon this side whenever i get time from my busy schedule i literally go to your channel and see any random videos
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Qazi sb is GOAT CJ of Pak Supreme Court
Big boots to fill
Lets hope it keeps going in same momentum via Mr Afridi and onwards.
unsubscribing u and u're heating blood of patwaries and now we all can understand that what u're. the man who's appreciating qazi then he's fraudi like qazi fraudi. shame on u , u'as totally presenting only one side to get admire by qazi fans but get mic and do survey , its a challenge for u , ask about qazi fraudi, and why he said extension sub ko mily loonga and jb kaha nhi lengy sth hii press release aayi yeh munafikat chorden, jisny mansoor ko chief nhi banany diya ,bilawel nai khud kaha k qazi k baghair na mumkin tha, kitna jhoot bolty hu, aaj yakeen hua,muneeb par ilzam ku lgae? mansoor ko deceive ku kisny kiya? kon bhjta rha news judges ki court sy? amin ko ku dala within mins notification aya jo tayar tha? election tribunals, 8 feb election, 13 jan jis din symbol alloting last datee thii ,,, pti ki recount kr k seats ppp ko diiin, military court ko revive kiya, 6 judges k letter ki proceeding lga k prospone kiya, journalist pr dolar khor huny ka ilzam, judges ko tokna hate sy bolna, lawyers sy batmeezi,yeh kamray beth k studio khul k one side picture pesh krna asan hai,,,, kab ticket de rhy pmln wly ? what about islamic uni matter that he started court trail in group meeting and what he did in court with rector? just do podcast of mati asad maryam nawaz khan hasnat saqib zulqarnain sohail rashed qamber etc they will tell truth bcz they saw directly and u r supporting a man due to hating imra khan shame/who took shehzad malik to sc when he was acting like a umberella against interefrence after resistance of atc court judges?
I like the fact that how @ThePakistanExperience provides the narrative which is another perspective against the popular narrative the more I listen to him the more I learn and feel confident about the decision that is why I am rooting for the perspectives against him. QFI's tenure as a CJP is nothing short but a sham he may be strictly by the book judge as you mentioned most of the time in this video and I agree with that because the book he strictly followed is called Book of Vendetta
His name does poetic justice to his legacy! He was ‘Faez’ (appointed) a ‘Qazi’ (judge) and like ‘Isa’ he has been hounded for standing up for the truth but history will surely vindicate him.
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@@09blackyy unsubscribing u and u're heating blood of patwaries and now we all can understand that what u're. the man who's appreciating qazi then he's fraudi like qazi fraudi. shame on u , u'as totally presenting only one side to get admire by qazi fans but get mic and do survey , its a challenge for u , ask about qazi fraudi, and why he said extension sub ko mily loonga and jb kaha nhi lengy sth hii press release aayi yeh munafikat chorden, jisny mansoor ko chief nhi banany diya ,bilawel nai khud kaha k qazi k baghair na mumkin tha, kitna jhoot bolty hu, aaj yakeen hua,muneeb par ilzam ku lgae? mansoor ko deceive ku kisny kiya? kon bhjta rha news judges ki court sy? amin ko ku dala within mins notification aya jo tayar tha? election tribunals, 8 feb election, 13 jan jis din symbol alloting last datee thii ,,, pti ki recount kr k seats ppp ko diiin, military court ko revive kiya, 6 judges k letter ki proceeding lga k prospone kiya, journalist pr dolar khor huny ka ilzam, judges ko tokna hate sy bolna, lawyers sy batmeezi,yeh kamray beth k studio khul k one side picture pesh krna asan hai,,,, kab ticket de rhy pmln wly ?
unsubscribing u and u're heating blood of patwaries and now we all can understand that what u're. the man who's appreciating qazi then he's fraudi like qazi fraudi. shame on u , u'as totally presenting only one side to get admire by qazi fans but get mic and do survey , its a challenge for u , ask about qazi fraudi, and why he said extension sub ko mily loonga and jb kaha nhi lengy sth hii press release aayi yeh munafikat chorden, jisny mansoor ko chief nhi banany diya ,bilawel nai khud kaha k qazi k baghair na mumkin tha, kitna jhoot bolty hu, aaj yakeen hua,muneeb par ilzam ku lgae? mansoor ko deceive ku kisny kiya? kon bhjta rha news judges ki court sy? amin ko ku dala within mins notification aya jo tayar tha? election tribunals, 8 feb election, 13 jan jis din symbol alloting last datee thii ,,, pti ki recount kr k seats ppp ko diiin, military court ko revive kiya, 6 judges k letter ki proceeding lga k prospone kiya, journalist pr dolar khor huny ka ilzam, judges ko tokna hate sy bolna, lawyers sy batmeezi,yeh kamray beth k studio khul k one side picture pesh krna asan hai,,,, kab ticket de rhy pmln wly ?
@@09blackyy what about islamic uni matter that he started court trail in group meeting and what he did in court with rector? just do podcast of mati asad maryam nawaz khan hasnat saqib zulqarnain sohail rashed qamber etc they will tell truth bcz they saw directly and u r supporting a man due to hating imra khan shame/
what about islamic uni matter that he started court trail in group meeting and what he did in court with rector? just do podcast of mati asad maryam nawaz khan hasnat saqib zulqarnain sohail rashed qamber etc they will tell truth bcz they saw directly and u r supporting a man due to hating imra khan shame/
CORRECTION!!! Shehzad is unintentionally misleading the audience regarding Practice & Procedure Act (PPA). It came during Bandeyal tenure, Govt used Qazi to weaken Bandeyal to ensure the delay of elections, and successfully divided the court with 4/3 7/5 discussions led by Qazi. Qazi then kept PPA intact, bcz he was secure with Qazi-Sardar-Shah combo. Your video has completely ignored the Justice Sardar factor. Once he retired, Qazi lost majority in PPA committee, in Qazi-Shah-Munib combo, therefore "Surprisingly" Govt brought another Ordinance overnight, and Qazi kicked Munib out of PPA, even skipped Afridi, and handpicked the 5th judge. This is now reversed by Afridi, as his first action, and Munib is back in PPA. The way Qazi and Govt used to time their actions was beautifully evil.
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Another CORRECTION!!! Shehzad kept misleading audience, that Qazi had no link with 26th amendment. "As matter of fact", Qazi made sure to hand over multiple seats to Govt during his last few weeks, prior to amendment. He allowed ECP to change results, surpassing tribunals, which on the basis of "Recount", took 3 seats from PTI and gave those to Govt. Qazi also made sure that no tribunals remain functional. So that PTI could not get its seats back. His last judgement was another attempt to empower Govt & ECP, suggesting that they CAN ignore the reserved seat judgement, without consequence. Similarly, he took over PPA, to timely set a fixed bench for 63A case, to Govt can timely pick up MNAs/Senators for ammendment. Another fact is that the original failed attempt of 26th amendment had clauses that ensured Qazi's extension. Maulana's unexpected revolt messed up that plan. Another "timely" decision of qazi was the way he facilitated Nawaz during his return. I guess all was set, for extension, the first blow was from the public on 8th Feb, that was not expected, 2nd came from Maulana, and Qazi lost the extension.
@@ThePakistanExperience , reasons??? seriously? Who in this country does not have "REASONS" for their actions? So kindly and simply check out the timing of this action, and the motive. Forget about what he says about it. You have already given him a lot of margin. The whole point of PPA was that CJP should not become dictator, and Qazi did exactly that, as soon he lost majority. He even delayed a PPA meeting, as he secretly knew that Govt will bring ordinance to return powers to CJP overnight. And the very next day, he kicked out Munib, and even skipped Afridi, and handpicked Amin, his favorite, after Sardar's retirement.
Bs. Umar ata bandials 63-A judgment was a farce. Find me one decent lawyer who will defend it?
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That is not an answer to the point raised.. or do you accept QFI justification?
His Wife is a Khosa Baluch and Qazi is a Ethnic Hazara , He's still a good person and He did good for the Area
Obvious why the system was always against them
His wife is Spanish
Have an Spanish identity
@@rashidmustafa9101Nah she's khoso Baloch. Her mother's or father's identity is Spanish
@@rashidmustafa9101 his wife is half spainish and half khosa , her father is khosa and mother spainish
So being a hazara is being lesser in pakistan. By the way this is law & order & justice in pakistan
ruclips.net/video/UfoYXlSM0N8/видео.htmlsi=w9C9kBEsFPWrG8gk
On point academic synopsis and a very balanced opinion.
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Qazi was not pro PMLN or Pro Establishment. He was anti PTI and that too because PTI dragged him through the mud. His wrath became his unbecoming - one of the seven deadly sins.
He was not anti PTI either. He just adjudged in accordance with law and constitution. He didn't want the judiciary to interfere with the work of the parliament or the election commission as long as they worked within their legal and constitutional limits.
Im a bit out of the loop but this has been extremely helpful in understanding what's going on. Thanks, awesome as always!
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Is it fair to say you’ve given Imran Khan a fair shot? This is why PTI supporters accuse you of bias. During his tenure, he collaborated with the establishment and compromised judicial independence, much like his successor as Chief Justice. Fair shot? He backed down from his own stance on bench formation by ordinance, supported the establishment by altering the Article 63A decision to allow PTI members to vote differently, and remained silent on human rights violations from Balochistan to Gwadar. Defending him on a few scattered points only seems to justify his arrogance. By that standard, shouldn’t Bandial and Saqib also deserve a fair chance?
Imran Khan cult members don’t even give PTI leaders a fair shot aur unko ma bhain kee gaaliyan deyte hain toh mujhay kya hee accuse karay gai 🤣
No pleasing zombies
Lets be honest, Qazi Faiz Issa only face hatred just because of religious matter of Ahmadiyya community, which people dont understand. Even his that judgement was inline with humanity and nothing wrong. But it shows as a nation what we have become now, only hatred and extremist views are accepted here in Pakistan.
TLP used to hate him since faizabad dharna led by faiz hamid. They tried to tarnish his image since then, this ahmedia thing was also backed by them to show their old hatred against him. Otherwise they would have never dared to say anything to someone else for mere giving a verdict . The problem is that parties like PTI supported this radical group , even though their own leader was shot on the leg by the same TLP guy and even in IK’s own era TLP tried to bring chaos everywhere. But yet they supported their stance by going to this Ice cream shop to show their support to this Radical group.
Qazi's u-turn on Mubarak Sani case has tarnished his whole career .
This video is exactly what any good perspective/insight/opinion should be: Holistic, Nuanced and based on information...👍
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As usual a complete fake narrative. Qazi fiaz isa is undoubtly the worst CJ in the history of pakistan (please don't try to protect him with his before CJ actions as it don't come under question of being worst CJ of Pakistan), though he never was antiestablishment, he was pro noon league in that era.. As CJ he is the worst because previous judges somehow targeted an individual e.g. bhutto, nawaz etc, but Qazi targeted a complete political party and to some extend people of pakistan while denying them to vote for their preferred political party. Every action he took after becoming CJ of pakistan was to facilitate Noon League+establishment against PTI. Every single action.. So there is no comparison at all..
Youthiyapa lailaaj hay
@@ThePakistanExperience Typical of you. When intellectually challenged, and you dont have answer, you bring your asal "aukat" by abusing those who differ from you. Grow up
Intellectually challenged? Are you describing yourself?
@@ThePakistanExperience Lol, so you as a dictator will also decide who do you think comes under category of challenging you intellectually :) Ofcourse i disagree with your views (when it comes to PTI) but i won't abuse you like you always do whenever challenged. So yes, intellectually i am perhaps in better state than you :)
@@thisisusmanmalik And then this man talks about logical fallacies 😃
You make such interesting videos.
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Brilliant work Shehzad!! 👍🏼
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Very good vlog . Thank you
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He was one of the Biggest sell out in Pakistan's Judicial History. Asad Ali Toor has done explanatory video on it. Explaining why he was very aggressive against QFI's conduct, although he was abducted by ISI during PTI Era. Defending QFI and exposing the PTI Goverment during reference against QFI lead to his Abduction. Meanwhile a so-called Journalist went to London, and had various meetings with Nawaz Sharif and that Journalist approached QFI after his return. QFI welcomed this gesture from Nawaz, and kind of pledged his support. At the beginning, Asad Ali Toor never believed this and waited till QFI became Chief and kept on observing him. After Bat Symbol decision, Toor came to a conclusion and later found out that he was also involved with the Boys. The Boys had him in their Pocket and since then Qazi worked by leaps and Bounds for his extension. His extension was doomed after Reserve Seats Decision, so he punished Mansoor Ali Shah by accepting the Ordinance, although he was critical of the Presidential Ordinances before becoming cheaf and criticized PTI Government with a Term (Ordinance Factory).
Here is the Link to Asad Ali Toor's Video: ruclips.net/video/FOokWW8bhRg/видео.htmlsi=74_-oW0D7C624x1x
Excellent analysis.
Jazakallah
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Straightforward, highly truthful( 95%) serenely social and fantastic political analysis
One point missed, lack of support to high court judges
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Woh Poora scene hee ajeeb tha honestly 🙈
Dear Shahzad! firstly that wasn't a review petition, majority judges mentioned in the judgement that if ecp wants to clarify anything then ecp can consult us (8 judges) in chamber. Review of any judgement is heard by the judges and all the procedure is done of constituting the bench etc. But this wasn't the case in the reserved seats case.
Last warning for you youthiya. Next abusive comment and you’ll be banned.
Bhai ap imran khan ki recordings sunna kro aurtoun k sath, ye baatein apky youthia pan k lye harmfull hain😂
Ab agr abuse krogy tou galli b suno gy, bardasht rkhna phr
@@ThePakistanExperience you haven't responded to the point.
@@ThePakistanExperience isn't it abusive to call someone 'youthiya'
What does it mean?
@@AmzMentor IK never denied being a playboy, grow up!
The beauty of shahzad’s mind is how he can position himself against PTI in every matter, any person who is against PTI will get support from shahzad
Youthiyapa is thinking the world is divided in pro and anti PTI
Could it be Shahzad that you are doing the very same thing of which you are accusing others of.....
You mentioned in video if you are for/against Qazi Faiz Issa depends on if you are a PTI supporter or not. So basically the views are tainted by a party bias. Well when he became CJP many welcomed him, like for example journalist who covered the Supreme Court on a daily basis, journalist like Mati-ullah Jan, Asad Toor. They have also been very critical of his conduct.
One can agree or disagree with their views but one can't say that they are pro PTI. Infact they have been trolled by PTI, when a reference was made against the Supreme Court Judge Faiz Issa. So your point doesn't add up.
@@ThePakistanExperience lol your language says a lot, btw yes, everything is divided in pro PTI and anti-PTI in Pakistan, agr hum pro waly hain to anti to ap be hain, you have made video on why you hate PTI, if someone would make video on why they love PTI , you ll label them as someone who is creating rift in the society, destroying the social fabric and following a cult leader. So if you think you are in the anti camp you are creating the division as well.
Good analysis! I’m better educated because of this. jazakum Allaah(swt) khair
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You always encourage rationalism and this is the soul of intellectual wisdom. Allah pak bless you dear ameen sumameen 🤲
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Shahzad is an excellent program Thank God for people who see and say it like it is. Sane. Loved it
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Hi Shahzad, i think you are reporting on this with your personal bias. Mansoor Ali Shah, the senior most judge in the Pakistan today has "in written" called out Fayez Essa for all the mess that he has created. In the ditches that we are in, Esa's role is no different than saqib nisar before him (just choosing to side with the other end of the specturum). These bafoons have caused a great deal of damage to the national cause and would not be remembered any different from the "Nazrya e zaroorat" walay justice munir!
You haven’t watched the video so you’re commenting with your personal bias rather than addressing anything I’ve said, if you had watched you would have found Smash’s letter in it.
@@ThePakistanExperience I actually havent seen the end till the video. I saved it for the evening. Let me check that out and correct myself if that is the case :)
Just because I make a few good decisions doesn't excuse me from all the wrong ones I made. Please don't do what you're doing. Whataboutism
57:14 sorry shezad bhai 😜
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I was going to reply saying you commented without finishing the video 🤣
@@ThePakistanExperience Saath Saath kar raha tha, warna maza nahi aata, bhool Jaata. 😜
Good analysis young man...
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Blotched up analysis of an equally shady if not corrupt analyst!
Youthiyapa lailaaj hay
Thanks Shehzad for making a clear and accurate point for me.
Kitny pese diay ?
@@SRK-pk7xi aap ko lag raha hai yeh waqai Qazi Faiz Isa hein?
@@SRK-pk7xiInsaan ban
Sir flight mai wifi araha hay? 🤣
unsubscribing u and u're heating blood of patwaries and now we all can understand that what u're. the man who's appreciating qazi then he's fraudi like qazi fraudi. shame on u , u'as totally presenting only one side to get admire by qazi fans but get mic and do survey , its a challenge for u , ask about qazi fraudi, and why he said extension sub ko mily loonga and jb kaha nhi lengy sth hii press release aayi yeh munafikat chorden, jisny mansoor ko chief nhi banany diya ,bilawel nai khud kaha k qazi k baghair na mumkin tha, kitna jhoot bolty hu, aaj yakeen hua,muneeb par ilzam ku lgae? mansoor ko deceive ku kisny kiya? kon bhjta rha news judges ki court sy? amin ko ku dala within mins notification aya jo tayar tha? election tribunals, 8 feb election, 13 jan jis din symbol alloting last datee thii ,,, pti ki recount kr k seats ppp ko diiin, military court ko revive kiya, 6 judges k letter ki proceeding lga k prospone kiya, journalist pr dolar khor huny ka ilzam, judges ko tokna hate sy bolna, lawyers sy batmeezi,yeh kamray beth k studio khul k one side picture pesh krna asan hai,,,, kab ticket de rhy pmln wly ?
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بہت بہترین شہزاد 👍👍👍👍 ویسے یہ " بلے" والا فیصلہ اتنا کوئی پی ٹی ائی پر عذاب نہیں جتنا پروپگینڈہ ہے۔ ہم نے بچپن میں پی پی پیکے پاس تلوار دیکھی اور جب ووٹ دینے کی عمر ائی تو تلوار تیر بن چکی تھی انہوں نے تو اتنی دہائیاں نہیں ڈالیں 😂
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Greatest personality 💯✌️
Well-researched amazing video.
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Much needed video ❤👍.
Justified Analysis 👍
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Ik hi dil hai SIR kitne baar jetenge ❤ amazing and very informative video ❤
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In More than an hour's video you started from his start of the career to end discussed lot of things in his favour and in opposition just said he did not do enough in that case . Also didn't mention about the letter from 6 high court judges regarding establishment's interference
Because I still have my doubts over that entire episode and I didn’t want to opine on it without knowing more/better
@@ThePakistanExperience you are telling me that Shahzad gias has doubts on military interference in judiciary 🤷🏻♂️
I think faez iza was a judge that, though initially, seemed to stand for justice and constitutional principles, was made partisan by his own misgivings along partisan lines and has made decisions that will, on some level, irrevocably tarnish his future reputation. When he held that the will of parliamentarians must be accepted during vote of no confidence, or called for a reduction of his own powers during the practice and procedure case, bringing to an end the perceived judicial norm of 'master of the roster' these decisions seemed to be influenced by a sincere belief in the rule of law. However his position on the election symbol vote (which is beyond hypocritical in a country that functions on dynastic politics), him calling into question the decision of his peers in relation to reserved seats, almost to the extent of telling MNAs and ECP officials to disregard it, and him taking a U-turn by taking no strong action against an ordinance that essentially reversed the practice and procedure law that he had previously supported, giving the Chief justice greater powers to influence the decisions and functions of the court, reflect a judge that seems to have no sincere alignment with the judicial principles that many once expected of him. I know politicians often try to overly politicize judicial activity for their own gain (whats happening w Mansoor Ali Shah) but QFA, for all these reasons, will not be remembered fondly with the passage of time
جب ساری طاقت آرمی کے پاس ہے تو اس بات سے کیا فرق پڑتا کہ وزیراعظم اچھا ہے یا برا یا قاضی اچھا ہے یا برا
As a law student I am well aware of this fact that constitution is an ever changing document. As a Muslim state we should focus more on Muslim principles in which courts are above executive
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A little fact-check would be beneficial. Until March 10, 2024, Qazi Faez Isa, Sardar Tariq Masood, and Mansoor Ali Shah were members of the Practice and Procedure Committee. Justice Isa was not giving away his powers; rather, he was sharing them with Sardar Tariq Masood, whose credibility is well known. Then, as soon as Muneeb Akhtar joined the committee, Justice Isa lost the majority. We all know what transpired after that.
www.dawn.com/news/1861433
Bhai parhna nahee ata toh mujhay batao I’ll translate it for you
You can never be neutral- your biasness is known to all. Just invite court reporters or legal expers to discuss Qazi Faiz legacy.
If you just want your prejudices enforced then go watch people you agree with. Mat dekho mujhay agar mai biased hoon
Where did he get the money to buy his alleged houses/apartments in U.K, any chance of getting a money trail from him ( Justice Faiz Isa ) in our lifetime ?
Any chance you’d actually google something before commenting next time?
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You mean Justice Qazi Faiz Isa ( Retd. ) will rent a house to live in London ( UK ).
I doubt that….
Now you Google that how much are his alleged houses in UK….
Stop serving the Duffers. 😂😂😂
Pakistani deserve judges like saqib nisar
Allah na karay
Its quite clear that he was pro nawaz judge, bar councils helped him in the reference time which were sponsored by pmln, facilitated nawaz to comeback and nawaz made the bond between qazi and military, and the nexus worked against PTI - its simple story - and every judge is a very good judge before coming to supreme court.
It's evident that Justice QFI held an impressive track record as a judge prior to assuming the position of Chief Justice.
It would have been valuable if SGS had provided a scoring or ranking system throughout his analysis, as this would have helped to quantify Justice QFI's legacy in a more structured way.
Justice QFI demonstrated two contrasting sides in his legal strengths: he was exemplary before becoming Chief Justice, yet his performance reportedly declined afterward.
When PTI was in power, they acknowledged a misstep in their approach toward Justice QFI, an admission made publicly. However, upon becoming Chief Justice, Justice QFI’s conduct reportedly revealed his depth of knowledge, judicial acumen, and at times, perhaps his ego.
SGS, while aiming for impartiality in discussions regarding PTI, occasionally appears to fall into a confirmation bias, which may impact the objectivity of his assessments.
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Impossible to quantify boss. It’s all so qualitative plus I want people to make their own opinions and not give them a definitive score to take away.
@@ThePakistanExperience You are absolutely right, but at the beginning, you started and left swiftly. Whatever the points you raised in this video score them. I did and the results were not encouraging.
Laws are made so that democracy will not become the tyranny of the majority.....
Mujhe nhi lgta k ye koi reasoning theek nhi k majority ko nuksaan ho rha tha
as you said QFI should not have sat in cases against pti due to his bias. similarly you are also biased against imran khan and pti. with that being said I do agree with you on most of the things.
And you’re biased pro PTI and pro Imran khan.
Doesn’t mean we can’t agree
Wow, Shehzad claims that he is going to give a "Neutral and Unbiased" evaluation of Qazi Esa :D The man who didn't bother to criticize him ONCE!!!!! during the entire tenure, has now come to rescue his legacy :D Much better profile videos could be made on Bandeyal, Khosa, and many more. Qazi was just a bully and a mediocre judge, nothing else.
Kitna jhoot bolo gai? Phir mai youthiya bolon toh log naraz hojatay hain
In nutshell Respected Qazi Faez Isa Sahb had a personality trait of having very strong likes and dislikes as referred by present CJP in full court ceference held on 25 Oct. He was very intelligent and learned jurist. But unfortunately he used all his abilities to harm a person(and his party) whom he disliked.
Very well balanced detailed overview of QFI's career both good and bad. One small thing you didn't mention was his acceptance of the ordinance that restored CJ's monopoly in the bench forming committee. He used it to replace Muneeb with Amin
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www.dawn.com/news/1861433
He is a constitutionalist...hats off to him!!!
I'm not sure what you mean by saying that he refused the PCO. He was not a judge of the High Court when the PCO was instituted, and, to my knowledge, he was never offered a judgeship during the PCO period either. He directly became the Chief Justice of the BHC after Iftikhar Chaudhry's return in 2009. He never had the opportunity to refuse taking the oath under the PCO.
PCO judges case
On 3 November 2007, then-President Pervez Musharraf declared a Provisional Constitutional Order (PCO), which declared a state of emergency and suspended the Constitution. Under this emergency law, all judges were asked to take oath under this order and those who didn't were placed under house arrest. A seven-member bench issued a restraining order on the same day, barring the government from implementing emergency rule and urging other government officials to not help do so. Justice Isa was among the judges who refused to take oath. On 3 November 2007, a restraining order was issued by a seven-member bench of the Supreme Court to bar the government from implementing emergency rule.
www.dawn.com/news/1486499
@@ThePakistanExperience This is incorrect. Until 2009, QFI was a lawyer based in Karachi, not a judge. He even mentioned in his farewell reference speech that he discussed his appointment as CJ BHC with his law firm partner (presumably Ahsan Rizvi sb of RIAA) before accepting it.
If we take into account the political context, social scenarios and moral values with the constitution/judgments, then wouldn't it abolish the need/purpose of the "constitution"... Just a thought!???
No
The US Constitution didn’t change, the sociopolitical context changed and that meant first skavery then segregation was abolished
@@ThePakistanExperience So the judgement based on morals and "niyyats" is wrong (like QFI did) but the judgement "should be" (it is not compulsory) based upon the context and social and political situation....
@@ThePakistanExperience I completely agree with the blights you mentioned on QFI's career... But the main reason that he is getting trolled and not the respect that he earned is not supporting the agenda of PTI (more specifically one person IK)...
If we see from a "neutral" lens, he can be in the top judges of SC in Pakistan?
Teacher and qazi can buy properties in London..
Why not u son
Faez isa, the most honest and upright judge we ever had👍
We supported Jutice Qazi
Faiz Isa till he became the chief justice of pk.. Now as he is retired & left more so now its a high time he should openly speak..
perfectly crafted video
Hail the oppressor
blame the victim
Itni simplistic binary mai dunya operate nahee karti
Qazi fiaz issa ko awam ko moun hi nahi lagana tha his big blunder is live broadcast of court hearing most of lawers exposed.miltory establishment plus islamic extremist say head on.How can we expect he will be not blamed.
I am soo happy to hear your velog you are such young generation to understand all truth
Babe wake up, shehzad just dropped another vid to infuriate 99% of Pakistan 😂.
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You need to write a book on Qazi Nama❤
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been waiting
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You once told me that justice Athar minllah was a law minister in musharraf era and it can’t be justified. Qazi did much more for the boots
If that’s all I reduce Athar Minallah to I’d be an idiot.
It’s a part of his story, doesn’t define his career
Agreed
Basically, you are trying to protect a sinner.
Imran Khan has destroyed the minds of Pakistan with this nonsensical binary thinking. Ye naiki aur sin kee jhang nahee hay
آج اس بات کا یقین ہو گیا کہ بھائی آپ بھی بکاؤ ہو ۔ورنہ قاضی نے جو بغیرتیاں کی ہیں وہ چیز کبھی جسٹی فائی نہیں کیا جاسکتا۔
You mentioned if you are for/against Qazi Faiz Issa depends on if you are a PTI supporter or not. So basically the views are tainted by a party bias. Well when he became CJP many welcomed him, like for example journalist who covered the Supreme Court on a daily basis, journalist like Mati-ullah Jan, Asad Toor. They have also been very critical of his conduct.
One can agree or disagree with their views but one can't say that they are pro PTI. Infact they have been trolled by PTI, when a reference was made against the Supreme Court Judge Faiz Issa. So your point doesn't add up.
unsubscribing u and u're heating blood of patwaries and now we all can understand that what u're. the man who's appreciating qazi then he's fraudi like qazi fraudi. shame on u , u'as totally presenting only one side to get admire by qazi fans but get mic and do survey , its a challenge for u , ask about qazi fraudi, and why he said extension sub ko mily loonga and jb kaha nhi lengy sth hii press release aayi yeh munafikat chorden, jisny mansoor ko chief nhi banany diya ,bilawel nai khud kaha k qazi k baghair na mumkin tha, kitna jhoot bolty hu, aaj yakeen hua,muneeb par ilzam ku lgae? mansoor ko deceive ku kisny kiya? kon bhjta rha news judges ki court sy? amin ko ku dala within mins notification aya jo tayar tha? election tribunals, 8 feb election, 13 jan jis din symbol alloting last datee thii ,,, pti ki recount kr k seats ppp ko diiin, military court ko revive kiya, 6 judges k letter ki proceeding lga k prospone kiya, journalist pr dolar khor huny ka ilzam, judges ko tokna hate sy bolna, lawyers sy batmeezi,yeh kamray beth k studio khul k one side picture pesh krna asan hai,,,, kab ticket de rhy pmln wly ? what about islamic uni matter that he started court trail in group meeting and what he did in court with rector? just do podcast of mati asad maryam nawaz khan hasnat saqib zulqarnain sohail rashed qamber etc they will tell truth bcz they saw directly and u r supporting a man due to hating imra khan shame/who took shehzad malik to sc when he was acting like a umberella against interefrence after resistance of atc court judges?
Law main lika hai ka ek Dafa Review hosak ta hai kisi bi case ka Qazi sahab listen Tu Review ye kn sa article main lika plz guide.
قاضی فائز عیسی - پاکستان کی نہیں بلکہ قاضی القضا کی اسلامی دھندلی تاریخ میں اگر قاضی شوریح ایک طرف کردار، عدل اور انسانیت کے زمرے میں پست ترین پستیوں میں نظر آتا ہے تو نیک نام اور قائد اعظم کے ساتھی قاضی عیسی کا بیٹا فائز عیسی بطور قاضی القضا کردار، عدل، انسانیت اور گفتار کے زمروں میں آسمان کے بلندیوں پہ نظر آتے ہیں - اللہ پاک ان کی حفاظت فرمائے اور ان کی زندگی صحت اور خوشیوں سے بھر پور رہے، آمین
میرا سلام قاضی فائز صاحب کو 🫡😍❤️
Love from India Maharashtra ❤
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Neutral Opinion - means neutrals ka opinion.
Neutral toh janwar hota hay
@@ThePakistanExperience Agreed - Neutrals aur un k representatives janwar hi hain.
Ek toh unka tout abhi adiala mai hay usko kaunsa janwar bolayn gai aap?
@@ThePakistanExperience No exceptions, us ko bhi same category main rakhta hn.
@@ThePakistanExperience kuch tout aisy bhi hain jo Democratic hony ka natak tu krty hain pr bry hi calculated andaz main neutrals ka narrative promote krty hain.
Great video... Almost agree with everything you said....
Although I think the bat symbol case is another huge plus in his career. And you somehow had to bend your concept of sticking to the law to criticize it. Which is not what judges are supposed to do. Qazi was absolutely spot on in that judgement.
I haven't really followed details of memogate to comment. But yes... Not dealing with Balochistans missing persons issue will be the biggest regret from qazi esa. Also, he should have went very hard in getting the letter by 6 judges investigated. And I think he should have took up and pushed the case of Arshad sharif as well. Those 3 would be the biggest regrets of qazi esa era.... And that is also because we expected him to really do so so much.
Waiting for the Netflix special: "How an average joe Lumsian becomes a tout"
After the 2024 election, Qazi Faiz Essa has harmed his 40-year judicial career and his late father's legacy."
could had watched a movie or 2-3 episode of season but preferred to watch this video
As per book a Qazi can't be biased in terms of his judgements.
This is the basic principle to qualify a Judge.
Qazi failed this test and that's the fact.
All other justifications can be modeled in favour or against.
Justice Isa was right about Haqqani
He's gem 💎
Qazi faiz our nation is proud of you.
Justice Amin Justice Naeem Right Hand of isa
Bro you are a great manipulator. In fact the best propagandist. Look the way you twisted the facts by saying he never went for extension. If you think you are only intelligent then go to hell buddy. Everyone knew PML and PPP wanted to make a constitutional court in which they wanted to install traitor Faiz Isa
“How dare you challenge my youthiyapa with facts? Shame on you”
And Shahzad would you be kind enough to list all the things that you ask the viewers to read in the description, as I believe this will really help viewers like me, who really intend to read.
You’re right. Will do
Please invite Reema Omar on your podcast for constitutional matters.
I’ve tried. Will try again
What about the 6 judges letter, not taking any action is bigger mistake than “Bat” decision i think. A chief justice could-not protect the judges who are supposed to protect the general public, not taking any action on that is a blunder.
Justice Mansoor Ali Shah . The most progressive and intellectual justice Pakistan have ever seen❤.
Good video
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Excellent video. But i have one question or concern, the entire youth who saw the tiktok clip of thet donut shop incident, how many of those are gonna watch this one hour video and then realize the dilemma of polarization? I think literal zero percent. TPE is great initiative to counter the IK cult mindset but i think those who listen TPE are already not part of that cult. I hope i am wrong.
You’re right. Ek bhi ghalti say dekh kar cult say bahar ajaye toh meri mehnat halal hojaye gi
Faez ISa is a Devil of Justiciary because he always tried to find weakness of our local to favor Nawaz Sharif rather than using he strength of our local laws. Actually he is a good actor in the role of Villain
Justice Mansoor Ali Shah has himself brought this doom upon himself and the people of Pakistan. No doubt one of the brilliant judges of Pakistan who compromised his own elevation for the love of PTI and Imran Khan.He has ruined his own brilliant future for the love of Imran Khan and when time came Imran Khan chose his wife's freedom at the cost of Mansoor Ali Shah's position as chief justice of Pakistan.
As for Mr Qazi Fayez Issa, a man of character and principle.
Shehzad has put up the whole argument brilliantly. Love the way you have fully presented most of the facts for all kind of minds out there.
I have watched your full video and try to buy your opinion, but after his service and by his decisions is establishment empowered or weakened?
I answer that in the video
Shahzad in case of Monal, don't you think instead of putting all the financial burden on the owner of restaurant, QFE shoukd have gotten the army answerable as to why they sold public property of a private business?
Also considering this, shouldn't he have accommodated the business for something he wasn't a part of?
How? If it’s the property of the wildlife board or the forest board? How can you accommodate the owner?