Geez. Kids these days. We used to have to make everything. Cut a piece of poly cutting board, put a traditional scotty mount on top of it, use 2 toilet bolts as track adapters under it secured by wing nuts on top. it will be bigger than a gear head but it won't loosen.
Great video, I'm a little late to the party here, but I learned this lesson early on. The gearhead track adapters are very useful for many items, but you are correct, rod holders only on the right side (if you are trolling). Scotty does have a product that I use for trolling musky that is rail mounted and does not have the gearhead issue. The 343 Locking Gunnel Mount. You could try that, I love mine, I have one on either side for trolling for musky or striper. Has not failed me yet. Great vid btw, very informative and has likely helped many an angler! Keep up the good work.
Good demo of the problem you’re concerned about. I’ve never had an issue with the gearhead coming loose and I troll on the left side. My experience is if you tighten them down they won’t move - that includes when I change their mounting location while on the water. Cheers.
Hey Sorry for the late response Marty! Thank you for your input! I'll give it a try again and see how it goes. for me The longer the rod the easier it would undo itself. essentially acting like a lugnut and a breaker bar.
I was wondering if it would unscrew when trolling on the left side. I just bought the Scotty 340 rail mount (meant for a different rail system). Going to put some t bolts for the gear tracks on it so I can use it on the gear tracks with the traditiinal deck mount Scotty bracket (no drilling on my new sportsman 120pdl). That way I can use all my rod holders that I already bought for my boat, and lifetime kayak.
It does loosen for me when the left side. I’ve tried to tighten the mount as much as possible but I just end up bending the t bolts. However Scotty does have new dual t-bolt mounts made for the tracks. It would be the Scotty 343. I may add some of these to my kayak.
I was going to get one for my pelican getaway, however because I steer on the left and have the paddle holder on the right the paddle will be in the way for the scotty trackmount so was going to go with the left hand rail….thanks for saving me $$$
Same problem while trolling Bandits for walleye 😢 I was looking at the Scotty Locking Gunnel Track Mount which seems to have T bolts to go in the old town track
I have not had that problem ever . I have used them forever on both sides of boats and kayaks and caught big fish no problem . I had more of a problem of the locking system wearing out .
BY FAR the worst part about the Scotty "483 gear-head" track adapter is the fact that the cheap, flimsy, flexible clips on the sides of the mount that are supposed to "lock" your gear into place become bowed outwards after only a few months of use (maybe this is more of a problem in warmer climates, where the plastic gets heated and becomes permanently looser than their 'out of the box' form). The result is that your rods (or worse, electronics if using the mount for that) will easily pop up and out of the mount with minimal effort after a while. If you have electronic mounted to your rails using this mount and you capsize - or just bump your rod holder or fish-finder the wrong way - you'll watch your depth finder/battery-box/sonar go swim with the fishes -- possibly along with any rod you had mounted using the gear-head track mount. DO NOT buy the Scotty "gear-head" track adapter !!! As mentioned, YakAttack and others have much better mounts (with *actual* functioning safety locking) for similar costs. **If anyone that owns a Scotty 483 gear mount adapter that doesn't believe me, pull straight up on your rod holder after using it for a few months, and you'll see what I mean. It no longer "locks" you gear into place. This problem has happened on every one I've bought (now three of these.). I've switched to YakAttack "Omega" rod holders that have a sturdy locking/unlock tab that you have to manually press to remove your attached gear.
@@newlifely7849 ruclips.net/video/e1-sfnDGKMs/видео.html forsure! this is a short 3 minute video I made of the newer mount. I will definitely be picking some of these up. Too bad they came out with it so late
@@HuyFishin just watched the 343 video. The mount isnt the issue for me. Its the rod holder itself. Ive tried tightening up the screws so the rod doesn't jump up but that doesn't work either. It seems to ride that little black piece up and eventually the front of the rod pops out. When ran on the right side that black piece isnt a problem cause the tension is on the opposite side.
@@newlifely7849 OOOH I get what you're saying now. I have experienced this before. It happens when trolling and the line runs diagonally behind you and the rod wants to pop up. a way to remedy is to use scotty extenders to tilt the rod holder forward. So if your kayak/boat is moving it will apply constant pressure downwards on the front of the rod holder. this pressure should be enough to hold the rod in place.
haha yea I was ok with it for a long time too. because I would just use one rod on the right side. when I went to the west coast we were allowed to legally troll 2 rods at a time on the kayak and I couldn't do it. haha
I've never been a fan of Scotty accessories. I prefer the Zooka tube from YakAttack. The base has two cams that stop any left or right twist when tightening into the track rail.
Looks like you just need to tighten the gearhead down a little more to properly secure it. Use the rod holder as the handle to give you more leverage and get it tightened good and tight. I have been running them since they were released and have never had one twist when trolling.
Geez. Kids these days. We used to have to make everything. Cut a piece of poly cutting board, put a traditional scotty mount on top of it, use 2 toilet bolts as track adapters under it secured by wing nuts on top. it will be bigger than a gear head but it won't loosen.
Great video, I'm a little late to the party here, but I learned this lesson early on. The gearhead track adapters are very useful for many items, but you are correct, rod holders only on the right side (if you are trolling). Scotty does have a product that I use for trolling musky that is rail mounted and does not have the gearhead issue.
The 343 Locking Gunnel Mount. You could try that, I love mine, I have one on either side for trolling for musky or striper. Has not failed me yet.
Great vid btw, very informative and has likely helped many an angler! Keep up the good work.
Thank you!! I love the new 343. They actually released it about one month after this video!
Good demo of the problem you’re concerned about. I’ve never had an issue with the gearhead coming loose and I troll on the left side. My experience is if you tighten them down they won’t move - that includes when I change their mounting location while on the water. Cheers.
Hey Sorry for the late response Marty! Thank you for your input! I'll give it a try again and see how it goes. for me The longer the rod the easier it would undo itself. essentially acting like a lugnut and a breaker bar.
I was wondering if it would unscrew when trolling on the left side. I just bought the Scotty 340 rail mount (meant for a different rail system). Going to put some t bolts for the gear tracks on it so I can use it on the gear tracks with the traditiinal deck mount Scotty bracket (no drilling on my new sportsman 120pdl).
That way I can use all my rod holders that I already bought for my boat, and lifetime kayak.
It does loosen for me when the left side. I’ve tried to tighten the mount as much as possible but I just end up bending the t bolts. However Scotty does have new dual t-bolt mounts made for the tracks. It would be the Scotty 343. I may add some of these to my kayak.
I was going to get one for my pelican getaway, however because I steer on the left and have the paddle holder on the right the paddle will be in the way for the scotty trackmount so was going to go with the left hand rail….thanks for saving me $$$
Scotty now has a good one called Scotty 343. It should work for you
Interesting info Huy and something we never thought of given that we don't have rails! Good to know.
for your next kayak atleast now you know!
I think rail blaze has a piece that has double tabe on ,it look's like it won't spin off
Same problem while trolling Bandits for walleye 😢 I was looking at the Scotty Locking Gunnel Track Mount which seems to have T bolts to go in the old town track
Yea!! The Scotty 343 helps!! Darn double the cost though :(
They should create a locking pin that what it can't twist loose.
yea it could be a simple fix!
343 Locking Gunnel mount is what you are looking for .
It doesn't have splines like the anchor lock?
That is a great review and I can deffinatly see problems with it. Hopefully scotty can come up with a fix for this.
Thank you! yea Its a frustrating problem that can be a simple fix.
They did. The 343 Locking Gunnel Mount. Works great, I have 2 for trolling.
I think Ram makes an adapt a post which eliminates the issue.
yea scotty also came out with an upgraded mount the fixed this issue 2 months after i uploaded this video haha
Watching bro. Awesome tips. Ihave that one still ok for 2years. Fish on
The quality of the product is still good! made in canada so I would imagine it would last long. They just have to adjust the design a little.
I have not had that problem ever . I have used them forever on both sides of boats and kayaks and caught big fish no problem . I had more of a problem of the locking system wearing out .
Daaaang...you just saved me from making that same mistake. THANKS!!!
scotty does sell the scotty 343 which does fix the issue now!
Solution: just bolt a piece of plywood to your tract with a carrage bolt etc and screw the standard Scotty base to the plywood. What do you think?
That would definitely fix it. No need for it now though!! Scotty made an improved mount called Scotty 343 which works great!
I'm using mine for a fish finder so I should have this proble right?
I wouldn’t be too worried on stationary items you will be mounting
BY FAR the worst part about the Scotty "483 gear-head" track adapter is the fact that the cheap, flimsy, flexible clips on the sides of the mount that are supposed to "lock" your gear into place become bowed outwards after only a few months of use (maybe this is more of a problem in warmer climates, where the plastic gets heated and becomes permanently looser than their 'out of the box' form). The result is that your rods (or worse, electronics if using the mount for that) will easily pop up and out of the mount with minimal effort after a while. If you have electronic mounted to your rails using this mount and you capsize - or just bump your rod holder or fish-finder the wrong way - you'll watch your depth finder/battery-box/sonar go swim with the fishes -- possibly along with any rod you had mounted using the gear-head track mount. DO NOT buy the Scotty "gear-head" track adapter !!! As mentioned, YakAttack and others have much better mounts (with *actual* functioning safety locking) for similar costs.
**If anyone that owns a Scotty 483 gear mount adapter that doesn't believe me, pull straight up on your rod holder after using it for a few months, and you'll see what I mean. It no longer "locks" you gear into place. This problem has happened on every one I've bought (now three of these.). I've switched to YakAttack "Omega" rod holders that have a sturdy locking/unlock tab that you have to manually press to remove your attached gear.
R5 only work's on the right side of my boat. If i run the r5 on the left side my rod jumps out.
yea its a terrible issue! but now they have come out with a better base! check out the Scotty 343 base!
@@HuyFishin nice. I was thinking i was the only one with rhis problem. Definitely check it out. But now I just run the 2 on my right side.
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forsure! this is a short 3 minute video I made of the newer mount. I will definitely be picking some of these up. Too bad they came out with it so late
@@HuyFishin just watched the 343 video. The mount isnt the issue for me. Its the rod holder itself. Ive tried tightening up the screws so the rod doesn't jump up but that doesn't work either. It seems to ride that little black piece up and eventually the front of the rod pops out. When ran on the right side that black piece isnt a problem cause the tension is on the opposite side.
@@newlifely7849 OOOH I get what you're saying now. I have experienced this before. It happens when trolling and the line runs diagonally behind you and the rod wants to pop up. a way to remedy is to use scotty extenders to tilt the rod holder forward. So if your kayak/boat is moving it will apply constant pressure downwards on the front of the rod holder. this pressure should be enough to hold the rod in place.
Just buy the left hand threaded version or spin your track around so it fits in from the front, then if it does loosen at least it won’t fall out
Scotty ended up releasing a product called scotty 343 which fixed this issue
We all know there is a problem. What would be of value is a fix!
My Scotty holder is mounted on the right hand side, guess that's why I never had this problem haha
haha yea I was ok with it for a long time too. because I would just use one rod on the right side. when I went to the west coast we were allowed to legally troll 2 rods at a time on the kayak and I couldn't do it. haha
Use a 343
haha They released the 343 maybe 2 months after i made this video.
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I've never been a fan of Scotty accessories. I prefer the Zooka tube from YakAttack. The base has two cams that stop any left or right twist when tightening into the track rail.
The yakattack mount is definitely perfected that's for sure. You can twist it any direction and its doesn't budge!
Looks like you just need to tighten the gearhead down a little more to properly secure it.
Use the rod holder as the handle to give you more leverage and get it tightened good and tight.
I have been running them since they were released and have never had one twist when trolling.
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