Rivers in the Desert really hits different when you're fighting a toddler in a fisher price car rather than the guy responsible for all the government corruption
My current theory is that Jose might be working for Philemon, it would most likely explain the yellow eyes, like the velvet room attendants, but instead of wearing blue, he wears white. Just something tells me that Jose, when fully grown, will be as powerful if not more so than Igor, they might've just introduced him in this game, but he might appear in future Persona titles as a new staple character to transfer this system that they have with mementos to future games. So they continue the handmade main dungeons, and have a side dungeon with many many floors. Tl;dr: he's either working for Philemon or he is introduced as a new mechanic for future proofing in the series.
Or he could be a lost velvet room member for Igor maybe, either way he does share traits with the velvet room employees with the yellow eyes, as well as his name not being Japanese, and his ties to mementos.
I don't know if he persists in the 3rd semester, but I thought that it might be Maruki's "Shadow", remember how he had awakened his Persona but had never been to the Metaverse, I think that this caused Jose, a really similar temperament (A child, who researches humans, and make their wishes come true) appear OK NVM he's definitely a Velvet attendant
tbh i dont think igor is that powerful other than his ability to create attendants, stabilise the velvet room, and fuse personas, if i recall correctly he is never referred to as one that rules over power. personally i think jose was a failed attempt at making an attendant and didnt have the power necessary to be one so he was left to roam mementosand his task to understand humanity was given to him by philemon to keep him busy rather than just erasing him.
I believe we'll see Jose in Persona 6. His color scheme and overall design differs with the one in 5. Especially his shop design which is entirely different in color and aesthetics. It could be a hint towards the design philosophy of 6.
Yeah Like the theme for the next game being white like idk maybe the next protagonist is gonna be from a highly religious one explaining the white but that's my theory.
Gold and silver represents wealth. Gold represents influence and power with the ability to become confident. Silver means affluence and modernism with enlightenment of the mind, self reflection, and inspiration.
Nick Ts. Vincent made a cameo in Persona 3 Portable quite a good bit before Catherine was announced. Perhaps Jose is a character in Project Re:Fantasy or SMTV?
@@KuroJet I have a love-hate thing for akechi. Can't stand him for being a traitor even though it was obvious and he can be an asshole but I can't hate his character either. He can be relatable at times lmao and it's much better that he's not putting on the nice detective façade in the 3rd semester
@@murasakino101 Dead ass facts. I felt the same way about not like Akechi, but in 3rd Semester, I liked him a lot more because he was honest and true to himself. The snark felt a lot better with him just being an asshole instead of hiding it.
I mean there isn't many other good ones to choose from other than Jose and they managed to just half ass him by not explaining who he is and he's most likely gone now. Still rivers in the desert was required or this fight would be impossible unless only akechi attacked
Well i dunno how cannon Royal is and i don't want it to be. At least the golden ending in P4G was different than the P4 ending Royal ending is just slightly different with a slight twist which i fucking hate
Here’s my theory for Jose. Jose could be a new Velvet Room attendant in training because see the hair and eyes? They match the previous attendants, Elizabeth Theodore Margret and Lavenza. It made sense for to say this because of the eye and hair color as well as studying human life. But what many say will debunk the theory is he’s wearing white not the dark blue with hints of gold. But remember is in training as in he won’t receive his uniform until he finished his training. But another theory is that Jose could the child of one of the previous attendants but given their role and what they are it’s easily implied that they cannot offspring in any sort of way.
Mrex666 productions well that’s very plausible but at same time I can’t see Jose being an Ai. Sophie came in action after the events of persona 5 and into Scamble and sense Royal takes place in a alternate universe of Persona 5 Sophie didn’t really exist.
Mrex666 productions well I watched Scramble on RUclips. And I won’t spoil to much of the two games but what I can say is that Royal is not connected to Scramble in any shape. Or form I would explain why but you know spoilers.
@@briayantheomnipotentone3047 I did as well, and there's this dialogue as soon as you reach the finale... Morgana: "...Oh, this is like *half a year ago.* " The month it took place is August.
Everyone keeps saying Jose might work for Philemon of Nyrla but here's a theory, what if Maruki created Jose accidentally with his actualization ability as a way to try to understand Humans and Momentos (the collective unconscious)? This would explain why Jose gives Joker the wish granting star just like Maruki created a reality where almost everyone's wish comes true? This also explains why Jose is constantly trying to understand Humans since Maruki also wants to do the same in order to help them. It can also explain how he's able to change Momentous (actualization)
I thought the same thing kinda i forget but at one point they mention something about mementos changing because of maruki and they're like how it's impossible and I was like wait jose must be helping maruki but no jose is just there doing his own thing
I feel like the comment around 15:51 disproves that theory. If Hose were talking about Maruki, he probably would have given some detail to show it, but it seems like he refers to Philemon and Nyarlethotep
@@loganmason5784 why should he give some information? He clearly say that it's not their business. The main theory i think is based on the fact that none can change the mementos, especially for someone who never went in the Metaverse... So, probably if Maruki did what he did could be also thanks to Jose cause he is the only one that have the abilty to change mementos, and by that, he can change the cogniction of the people. If not, there is a big hole in the story since you don't know how Maruki got access to the mass cogniction
I like this one however if maruki really did create him I feel like they would've addressed it in the same game not shroud it in mystery. Maruki story felt finished by the end so it feels weird linking him to another subplot.
I think he only refers to them when he states "Other are watching" But I believe Elizabeth is the one he is helping she send him to mementos due to few reasons she didn't want run into p5 group in Q2 she even tells Theodore who sees the twins and wants tell them they are lavenza to don't because it's not there place so it isn't her place be in mementos and another could be she probably couldn't fake Igor could've been pushing her back to not enter so she doesn't interfere or help.
They are going to change up the velvet room in 6. The main reason I can think of is because Igors JP voice actor died and they won't recast him. So they have to change up masters. Since they are trying to be sneaky as to who Jose's master is, I think he might be the new "Wildcard" guide and Jose and his type will be the new equivalent of Velvet room attendants.
@Shiva R No. They used old voice lines from previous games.(the jp version did). Not sure about the english version. But anyway, I think there will be a major shift in the velvet room.
I think Jose is definitely connected to the Velvet Room and Igor and them, and that someone there created him. Obviously because he's got the yellow eyes and gray hair. But another thing is that he looks very doll-like, as seen with his ears, nose and hair. And I remember reading on a Persona wiki that Igor was once a doll brought to life by Philemon, which is how he came to be. So Jose could be the same. And if that's true he must be newly created since he still looks like that, which is also evident by the fact that he's trying to study humans. So I think someone in the Velvet Room or maybe linked to it created him and gave him this task for some reason. Could be Igor, Philemon, one of the attendants, etc. Perhaps he's a Velvet Room attendant in training or something.
My theory of Jose is that he's a velvet room attendant in training possibly promising to study human nature for Philemon, Elizabeth or Igor. If we go the normal route, it's probably Igor. The twins mentioned that they were surpised MC knew of mementos and that they knew everyone who should know of it. Its plausible to think that mementos has been their training grounds or where they study since its a collection of people's cognition. His hair and eyes hint towards the Velvet room. His curiousity about humans and his vague answers on who he is also matches the other attendants. His insane power is on par of them too.
He may be Elizabeth's Velvet Attendant, and to be able to guide he he needs to be able to understand humans and human emotion, because human bonds and feelings are foreign to Elizabeth and she only really exhibits it when she's around Makoto Yuki, otherwise she's just in her Curious Trolling Mode. Which honestly makes Jose being Makoto Yuki's reincarnation being a plausibility especially when you take in consideration the Jungian Psychology and how he incorporates in it with Makoto Yuki being the Messiah and all, and Jose being the only person in Persona with a name that came from the Bible(that I'm aware of).
My pet theory is that the "friend" whom Jose promised to research humans for is Philemon. They both have a white-and-gold color design, they both seem unafilliated with the Velvet Room attendants or anyone else in the story, when Jose says "there are a lot more folks watching over humanity" that's basically a dead ringer and when he says "No wonder the others just can't leave humans be" I think that's referring to all of the past godlike antagonists from all the previous games.
Futaba single-handedly won this fight for me. Ultimate Support when everyone was wounded and confused, then Final Guard... I was probably underleveled (Hard difficulty too) 'cause one more of his super move and I would've bitten the dust.
I like that in the end, when they all laugh at Mona, except Crow standing there being like "I'm surrounded by fucking morons." THAT I say was the cutest thing out of this whole thing.
Jose is a strange one and im seriously wondering how he fits into things in the series. I dont think he will be exclusive to P5 for sure, what happened in this generation of games with him will definitely have an impact somewhere else. Part of me wants to think that the "certain person" is in fact Elizabeth and he is in some way helping her find a method to stop Nyx and thereby release door-kun. Dont think that is actually the case considering the dialogue, he is more likely working for Philemon in some capacity but still.
I think it's her too he said he was doing research on people and that he wanted investigate memento and understand people best he could.Elizabeth not able be there makes sense as well because fake Igor kept real Igor out of the velvet room tore apart lavenza as well so Elizabeth probably couldn't get close due to she knew she die or worse.
While yes Rivers in the Desert works well for this fight, I think giving him his own fight theme would work a bit better. I mean yeah, most secret bosses don't have custom music. The Reaper uses Last Surprise, the twins and Lavenza use Rivers in the Desert, but Jose is different from those bosses. The Reaper is menacing and appears in Mementos where almost every shadow has Last Surprise (plus he's the only boss that I know of that you can ambush or get ambushed by) and the twins + Lavenza are supposed to be powerful residents of the velvet room (plus they're real fucking intimidating in their fights). Jose is a smol boi who's trying to vent and is doing his all. I think a mix between menacing and childish music would have worked. Though if you agree with Rivers in the Desert, I won't blame you, that song slaps. Just wanted to give my opinion.
Oh wow, the playthrough I watched didn't have this. Interesting battle and dialogue. Good questions after from Ann & Morgana. And fun banter at the end. Thanks for this!
There are more folks observing humankind than you might realise -I gotcha. -Who do you mean? I feel like the first answer comes especially from the player who already knows that pretty well with all the other persona games
To beat this little muffin easily just buy a shitload of Magic Ointment and make sure everyone has them on at all times or get Haru's third persona and use Life Wall every turn
Wtf, his first opening attack did so much damage that it put Makoto at one shot. Jesus Christ this kid ain't playing around. What do you get for beating him?
Anybody else recognizes Jose voice actress cause I do to those who don’t know I’ll give you a hint she voiced a character in a Nickelodeon show that aired from 1996 to 2004
You know how Caroline and Justine are both half of Lavenza? I'm thinking that Jose and Morgana might be two halves of a whole as well. -Morgana was created by the Velvet Room, and Jose is implied to have connections to them as well. -Their voices are very similar. -They have similar goals: becoming vs. understanding humans. -And most important, they both notably find Ann to be beautiful.
@Tum Tum I haven't seen the article in a while and I have no keywords to Google it, but from what I remember she mainly complained that the game was too long originally and that adding more to hours to it was a god awful idea, she hated a decent majority of the characters, she said that the 3rd semester and new palace are bland at BEST, and that the new characters added in Royal are some of the worst ever. But at least she really liked Jose tho
Sounds like another SJW trying to push an agenda. Her name is Syrenne McNulty in case anyone is wondering. It’s obvious from her review that she went in with an obvious bias and was very close minded when playing the game. Reviewers like her are the reason why people think women shouldn’t play video games and why video game reviewers aren’t taken seriously anymore. What pisses me off the most about her review is that she openly laughs and mocks Kazumi’s backstory. She clearly doesn’t have any heart for gaming. And she’s also pretentious enough to type spoilers using code. It’s obvious that she just rushed through the entire game so she could write a half assed review to turn a profit. And of course she likes Jose...you know that one character who has no bearing or importance in the actual story?! And of course, her review was written on a site that has no comments available. Meaning she can freely write her piece of shit review with no criticism or backlash whatsoever.
I came to this video, after learning that you can fight Jose, in a boss battle. But the thing that caught my attention the most was the name of the team being 'Thot Busters'. Not gonna lie, I lost it for a moment there because of that name alone.
I really don't get why people spend way too many turns on supporting skills, not attack, 2 turns later you have to heal the whole party then use the supporting skills all over again. Feels stupid to watch
Out of all the boss fights in P5, one with a smol egg boy in a toy car definitely wasn’t what I was expecting. Then again, it’s better than literal Hitler.
Why do I have the feeling that he'll be in Persona 6 as an attendant of the Velvet Room? And that the concept of 6 would be learning about Humanity and their ways of the world?
This would have been great to discover on my own, thanks for spoiling it despite me not even being subscribed to you from this popping up in my suggestions.
Being of Hispanic decent, I die a little when I hear the name Jose being pronounced as is xD. It is possible the name is said that way on purpose but I still can't help but die a little xD
Yesterday I already finished persona 5 the royal, little late for the party, but something that I can´t get out of my head was Jose, and what he mentions. He did mention that there are more people out there that are aware of the persona users and the phantom thieves in the persona 5 context. I don´t think Jose is related to the velvet room instead I suppose that the creation of Jose was similar to the assistants of Velvet Room, all of them have Yellow eyes we can bound this, to the fact that they are persona users in a sense but a shadow too, they are not humans at all. About his name something is more deep than appears, Jose is a biblical name that literally mean "God will give" or more precisely, that person or being put Jose in that duty on purpose, he is aware of humankind and persona users maybe not aware of the phantom thieves but he is not human either. This theory could be elaborated more, but to keep it simply there are two things to consider: 1. Jose is not related to the Velvet Room and its assistants but he is a similar being as them. 2. Is probably that in Persona 6 we will know more about them and as some has already stated maybe the thematic can be related to the religion in a way, gods or at least to the white color 3. Boss music and stars thematic (biblical sense) are there for a reason he is not a like every boss, he and that person he talks about will have more impact in persona series I will see you in Persona 6 guys
Interviewer:so why did You join smash? Joker: well it all started when I was fight a toddler and I beat him then I realized that I like beating kids, With the power of arsen :)
I remember how long it took me to beat this guy and then I went into Mementos... without saving... and I FUCKING DIED. nil, I don't know if you actually could save in that room.
I just realized something, asuming mementos disapeared the same way as the other palaces, jose probably went full overdrive to escape, asuming he escaped... damn I just depresed myself
If he is a Velvet attendant then he probably has a Teleportation spell quite like Elizabeth's when she Teleported from the end of space itself(Door Kuns place) to the moon, and from the moon to the earth.
I don't know if this Jose theory of mine holds value, if any at all, so just humor me. Spoilers for the original story (though since we're all here, you've most likely seen/played the original story) Considering that Yaldobaoth hijacked the Velvet Room, split Lavenza in two and dawned the guise of Igor, most likely, Jose was created during this time. Igor created Morgana as a last resort to help prevent the coming ruin. In Royal's story, Jose was also created along with with Morgana, but wasn't given a purpose right away, as Igor wouldnt be able to do so on such short notice. So he was just a sentient doll with no purpose. Around the time when the protagonist came time Shibuya and accidently stepped into the Metaverse, this drew the attention of the God of Control, Caroline & Justine, and Lavenza's consciousness, residing in the body of Philemon. In the state that she was in, she couldn't do much other than warn the protagonist about a way to change all of this. During this time, she also came across Jose, and gave him the task of studying humans by drinking flowers, and once finished, to report back to her, as she both knew it would take a long time to complete this task, and had faith in the Trickster to uncover the truth and return Lavenza back to normal. Jose responded to this as his purpose and began his task, traveling throughout Mementos, learning more and more about humans. The more he did, the stronger he became, obtaining new abilities and even using his power to help his travels, Such as changing cognition. Once he returns to Lavenza & Igor, with his newfound knowledge on humans, they welcome him as another resident of the Velvet Room, and in time, an attendant to another on their journey. I have NO IDEA how plausible this sounds, but let's just see how things play out for now.
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Rivers in the Desert really hits different when you're fighting a toddler in a fisher price car rather than the guy responsible for all the government corruption
this is the funniest shit I've ever read
Damn Brat!
Or Twin Wardens bent on making your life a living hell.
Rivers in the Desert is overused imo. It takes away from it playing during Shido’s fight when it’s used for every single special fight in the game
More like 3 year old throwing bombs and driving over 4 teenagers
Jose: "Why though? It hurts but, i'm actually enjoying it"
*Darkness intensifies*
Masochism
Me when I'm having an argument with people over the net.
Leo Jansen isn’t he a kid tho?
Leo Jansen actually when I went in the thieves den and talked to him he said that it’s dark and most kids are in bed but then he said except me
Jose is actually Grey Fox
... Rivers in the Desert playing for this kid's fight is a clue to how much of a beating to expect.
this one ruclips.net/video/WR_AncWskUk/видео.html will always be the ATUS boss music to me they need to bring Metal Saga back for modern consoles
If you're leveled up enough, he's not too bad. I was level 99 though and he still did a great bit of damage, especially on merciless
@@murasakino101 even on 99 that damn firework attack nearly killed me
@@aiis6821 yea that was the only problem, was at level 87
@@cole9693 i still enjoyed the fight tho..it was good knowing eveb when max leveled i wasnt completly safe from death
Boss, you killed a child...
Amazing, mission complete! That right there is why you're the best boss!
RANK S
Jose 5 minutes later,
DEHABILLITATE
MABUFUDYNE
is that a dorkly reference?
@@md3gaming61 metal gear solid 5
The one and only!
My current theory is that Jose might be working for Philemon, it would most likely explain the yellow eyes, like the velvet room attendants, but instead of wearing blue, he wears white. Just something tells me that Jose, when fully grown, will be as powerful if not more so than Igor, they might've just introduced him in this game, but he might appear in future Persona titles as a new staple character to transfer this system that they have with mementos to future games. So they continue the handmade main dungeons, and have a side dungeon with many many floors.
Tl;dr: he's either working for Philemon or he is introduced as a new mechanic for future proofing in the series.
Or he could be a lost velvet room member for Igor maybe, either way he does share traits with the velvet room employees with the yellow eyes, as well as his name not being Japanese, and his ties to mementos.
I don't know if he persists in the 3rd semester, but I thought that it might be Maruki's "Shadow", remember how he had awakened his Persona but had never been to the Metaverse, I think that this caused Jose, a really similar temperament (A child, who researches humans, and make their wishes come true) appear
OK NVM he's definitely a Velvet attendant
What about the mighty and eternal NYARLATHOTEP?
Gg Master Guilty Gear bless you
tbh i dont think igor is that powerful other than his ability to create attendants, stabilise the velvet room, and fuse personas, if i recall correctly he is never referred to as one that rules over power. personally i think jose was a failed attempt at making an attendant and didnt have the power necessary to be one so he was left to roam mementosand his task to understand humanity was given to him by philemon to keep him busy rather than just erasing him.
16:53 When Morgana went for the doofus moment, everyone laughed. Except Akechi, he just sighed. Akechi is my spirit animal.
So you're a MURDERER
@@argeiphontes3880 A likeable murderer lmao
He has the same reaction as us seeing the simpery of Morgana
Akechi is Brokechi
I believe we'll see Jose in Persona 6. His color scheme and overall design differs with the one in 5. Especially his shop design which is entirely different in color and aesthetics. It could be a hint towards the design philosophy of 6.
Yeah Like the theme for the next game being white like idk maybe the next protagonist is gonna be from a highly religious one explaining the white but that's my theory.
Gold and silver represents wealth. Gold represents influence and power with the ability to become confident. Silver means affluence and modernism with enlightenment of the mind, self reflection, and inspiration.
Nick Ts. Vincent made a cameo in Persona 3 Portable quite a good bit before Catherine was announced. Perhaps Jose is a character in Project Re:Fantasy or SMTV?
Based off of Jose P6 might be about self discovery
I hope so, the whole cosmic starry night sky aesthetic is super charming.
Everyone is laughing at Morgana's comment at the end and Akechi is just over there like, " I HATE it here bro" I'm dead XD
@@acat63 As much as I hate Akechi, I'm done with Morgana's bullshit too, fucking awful
@@KuroJet i used to hate him but now I just live his character, it makes me laugh so hard.
akechi will be fine
@@KuroJet I have a love-hate thing for akechi. Can't stand him for being a traitor even though it was obvious and he can be an asshole but I can't hate his character either. He can be relatable at times lmao and it's much better that he's not putting on the nice detective façade in the 3rd semester
@@murasakino101 Dead ass facts. I felt the same way about not like Akechi, but in 3rd Semester, I liked him a lot more because he was honest and true to himself. The snark felt a lot better with him just being an asshole instead of hiding it.
Me: but Jose my boy, my favorite royal character, I can't fight him
*Rivers in the desert starts playing*
Me: OH SH-
I mean there isn't many other good ones to choose from other than Jose and they managed to just half ass him by not explaining who he is and he's most likely gone now.
Still rivers in the desert was required or this fight would be impossible unless only akechi attacked
@@zephyrorsomethinh1528 i feel like hes gonna pop back up in the next game.
@@zephyrorsomethinh1528 don't worry it'll be explained in persona 5 ultimate royal exquisite edition
Well i dunno how cannon Royal is and i don't want it to be. At least the golden ending in P4G was different than the P4 ending Royal ending is just slightly different with a slight twist which i fucking hate
@@zephyrorsomethinh1528 it's a weird ending but I wouldn't mind a continuation of royal tbh, I wish his ending was more sealed
Jose: I'm going to start venting now...
Also Jose: *Goes on a literal road rage*
Basically if a kid throws a tantrumin the toy aisle but the kid has a liscence
When the kid is sus 😳
Sorry
@@akirakurusu861 Damn, Akira really fell of with his jokes, huh
@@TheWorldEndsWithYou954
I guess you’ll never see it coming.
Sorry
Here’s my theory for Jose. Jose could be a new Velvet Room attendant in training because see the hair and eyes? They match the previous attendants, Elizabeth Theodore Margret and Lavenza. It made sense for to say this because of the eye and hair color as well as studying human life. But what many say will debunk the theory is he’s wearing white not the dark blue with hints of gold. But remember is in training as in he won’t receive his uniform until he finished his training. But another theory is that Jose could the child of one of the previous attendants but given their role and what they are it’s easily implied that they cannot offspring in any sort of way.
I think he's actually an AI created by someone from a future sequel, probably Ichinose or Sophie-related.
Mrex666 productions well that’s very plausible but at same time I can’t see Jose being an Ai. Sophie came in action after the events of persona 5 and into Scamble and sense Royal takes place in a alternate universe of Persona 5 Sophie didn’t really exist.
@@briayantheomnipotentone3047 Yes P5R exists in the story of P5S. There's a very vague hint around near the end of that game that it's connected.
Mrex666 productions well I watched Scramble on RUclips. And I won’t spoil to much of the two games but what I can say is that Royal is not connected to Scramble in any shape. Or form I would explain why but you know spoilers.
@@briayantheomnipotentone3047 I did as well, and there's this dialogue as soon as you reach the finale...
Morgana: "...Oh, this is like *half a year ago.* "
The month it took place is August.
Everyone keeps saying Jose might work for Philemon of Nyrla but here's a theory, what if Maruki created Jose accidentally with his actualization ability as a way to try to understand Humans and Momentos (the collective unconscious)? This would explain why Jose gives Joker the wish granting star just like Maruki created a reality where almost everyone's wish comes true?
This also explains why Jose is constantly trying to understand Humans since Maruki also wants to do the same in order to help them.
It can also explain how he's able to change Momentous (actualization)
Oooo that’s a interesting theory
I thought the same thing kinda i forget but at one point they mention something about mementos changing because of maruki and they're like how it's impossible and I was like wait jose must be helping maruki but no jose is just there doing his own thing
I feel like the comment around 15:51 disproves that theory. If Hose were talking about Maruki, he probably would have given some detail to show it, but it seems like he refers to Philemon and Nyarlethotep
@@loganmason5784 why should he give some information? He clearly say that it's not their business.
The main theory i think is based on the fact that none can change the mementos, especially for someone who never went in the Metaverse... So, probably if Maruki did what he did could be also thanks to Jose cause he is the only one that have the abilty to change mementos, and by that, he can change the cogniction of the people.
If not, there is a big hole in the story since you don't know how Maruki got access to the mass cogniction
I like this one however if maruki really did create him I feel like they would've addressed it in the same game not shroud it in mystery. Maruki story felt finished by the end so it feels weird linking him to another subplot.
The sound effect and Ryuji's scream at 3:53 is comedy perfection!
devilscry
*Squeak*
Ryuji: AAAAAAAA
Jack Of aces who would guess that Ryuji’s trauma came from rubber ducky’s?
Alternate title: *Ryuji dies in a car crash while listening to Rivers in the Desert*
@@rox1419 like one of the wario memes
I really hope he’s referring to Philemon and Nyarlathotep
I think he only refers to them when he states "Other are watching" But I believe Elizabeth is the one he is helping she send him to mementos due to few reasons she didn't want run into p5 group in Q2 she even tells Theodore who sees the twins and wants tell them they are lavenza to don't because it's not there place so it isn't her place be in mementos and another could be she probably couldn't fake Igor could've been pushing her back to not enter so she doesn't interfere or help.
Friendly reminder that Jose’s Voice actress is the same as Ty lee from Avatar
And Rhonda from Hey Arnold
WTF
Rivers in the desert: _Starts_
Me: NERVOUS *SHAKING*
They are going to change up the velvet room in 6. The main reason I can think of is because Igors JP voice actor died and they won't recast him. So they have to change up masters. Since they are trying to be sneaky as to who Jose's master is, I think he might be the new "Wildcard" guide and Jose and his type will be the new equivalent of Velvet room attendants.
maybe Philemon will be back
its bummer if they change igor but i can understand the reasons
@Shiva R
No. They used old voice lines from previous games.(the jp version did). Not sure about the english version. But anyway, I think there will be a major shift in the velvet room.
I think Jose is definitely connected to the Velvet Room and Igor and them, and that someone there created him. Obviously because he's got the yellow eyes and gray hair. But another thing is that he looks very doll-like, as seen with his ears, nose and hair. And I remember reading on a Persona wiki that Igor was once a doll brought to life by Philemon, which is how he came to be. So Jose could be the same. And if that's true he must be newly created since he still looks like that, which is also evident by the fact that he's trying to study humans. So I think someone in the Velvet Room or maybe linked to it created him and gave him this task for some reason. Could be Igor, Philemon, one of the attendants, etc. Perhaps he's a Velvet Room attendant in training or something.
My theory of Jose is that he's a velvet room attendant in training possibly promising to study human nature for Philemon, Elizabeth or Igor. If we go the normal route, it's probably Igor.
The twins mentioned that they were surpised MC knew of mementos and that they knew everyone who should know of it. Its plausible to think that mementos has been their training grounds or where they study since its a collection of people's cognition.
His hair and eyes hint towards the Velvet room. His curiousity about humans and his vague answers on who he is also matches the other attendants. His insane power is on par of them too.
He may be Elizabeth's Velvet Attendant, and to be able to guide he he needs to be able to understand humans and human emotion, because human bonds and feelings are foreign to Elizabeth and she only really exhibits it when she's around Makoto Yuki, otherwise she's just in her Curious Trolling Mode.
Which honestly makes Jose being Makoto Yuki's reincarnation being a plausibility especially when you take in consideration the Jungian Psychology and how he incorporates in it with Makoto Yuki being the Messiah and all, and Jose being the only person in Persona with a name that came from the Bible(that I'm aware of).
My pet theory is that the "friend" whom Jose promised to research humans for is Philemon.
They both have a white-and-gold color design, they both seem unafilliated with the Velvet Room attendants or anyone else in the story, when Jose says "there are a lot more folks watching over humanity" that's basically a dead ringer and when he says "No wonder the others just can't leave humans be" I think that's referring to all of the past godlike antagonists from all the previous games.
Akechi: "Remember, giving up is always an option."
Running away is a valid tactic
I seriously think he’s going to be in another game.
You mean If there's going to be another game
Equestrian Magic this game has pretty much put persona on the map if 4 hasn’t. There’s going to be another installment with this momentum.
@@theheroneededwillette6964 I really hope so, We need a P5R sequel
Maybe In persona 6 ?
Equestrian Magic pretty sure he’s going to be in persona 6.
Akechi’s sentiment of ‘why not simply give up?’ Is so fucking funny to me
wait, he's fighting in a car?
MAKOTO
Futaba single-handedly won this fight for me. Ultimate Support when everyone was wounded and confused, then Final Guard... I was probably underleveled (Hard difficulty too) 'cause one more of his super move and I would've bitten the dust.
Joker and Akechi: we DONT fights child
Rivers in Desert start playing
Joker and Akechi in show time: AAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAH LETS SLAUGHTER HIM!!!!!
Akechi before doing showtime on Jose: "THEY'RE WIDE OPEN LET'S SLAUGHTER THEM"
Me: bruh chill he's like 6 lmao
Jose: well right now I’m suffering
Same Jose fucking same
I like that in the end, when they all laugh at Mona, except Crow standing there being like "I'm surrounded by fucking morons." THAT I say was the cutest thing out of this whole thing.
Jose is a strange one and im seriously wondering how he fits into things in the series. I dont think he will be exclusive to P5 for sure, what happened in this generation of games with him will definitely have an impact somewhere else. Part of me wants to think that the "certain person" is in fact Elizabeth and he is in some way helping her find a method to stop Nyx and thereby release door-kun. Dont think that is actually the case considering the dialogue, he is more likely working for Philemon in some capacity but still.
I think it's her too he said he was doing research on people and that he wanted investigate memento and understand people best he could.Elizabeth not able be there makes sense as well because fake Igor kept real Igor out of the velvet room tore apart lavenza as well so Elizabeth probably couldn't get close due to she knew she die or worse.
While yes Rivers in the Desert works well for this fight, I think giving him his own fight theme would work a bit better. I mean yeah, most secret bosses don't have custom music. The Reaper uses Last Surprise, the twins and Lavenza use Rivers in the Desert, but Jose is different from those bosses. The Reaper is menacing and appears in Mementos where almost every shadow has Last Surprise (plus he's the only boss that I know of that you can ambush or get ambushed by) and the twins + Lavenza are supposed to be powerful residents of the velvet room (plus they're real fucking intimidating in their fights). Jose is a smol boi who's trying to vent and is doing his all. I think a mix between menacing and childish music would have worked. Though if you agree with Rivers in the Desert, I won't blame you, that song slaps. Just wanted to give my opinion.
local group of thief beats up a girl with a book and a boy in his toy car on separate occasions
To be fair, the boy with a toy car incited a lethal hit and run prior to said event, where the victims happened to be those same thieves.
What is it with kids wanting to fight teenagers? Caroline, Justine, Lavenza and now Jose?
NerdyHound tbf three of those are the same loli
2:05 Persona 4 in a nutshell
*truth... is evasive, though you might have the facts... got it straight, you think, but then it all cracks wide opEN*
My favorite physical attack in games ever is drifting
Oh wow, the playthrough I watched didn't have this.
Interesting battle and dialogue.
Good questions after from Ann & Morgana. And fun banter at the end. Thanks for this!
There are more folks observing humankind than you might realise
-I gotcha.
-Who do you mean?
I feel like the first answer comes especially from the player who already knows that pretty well with all the other persona games
Or the one who plays SMT
Steveeeeeeeennn
To beat this little muffin easily just buy a shitload of Magic Ointment and make sure everyone has them on at all times or get Haru's third persona and use Life Wall every turn
So basically we use what we call the "Maruki strat".
Honestly, I think this was one of the best Persona 5 battles I have ever seen, it was really EPIC.
Wtf, his first opening attack did so much damage that it put Makoto at one shot. Jesus Christ this kid ain't playing around. What do you get for beating him?
I can’t exactly remember but I’m pretty sure he gives you a star or something like that
ᴊᴀᴄᴏʙ ᴘᴀᴜʟsᴏɴ nothing useful
When you beat him, you get a key item and an award in the Thieves Den.
ᴊᴀᴄᴏʙ ᴘᴀᴜʟsᴏɴ you get the satisfaction of beating up a little kid who made you look for flowers and stamps in the pits of hell
...in this fight, bringing Sumi really adds a darker tone with that opening attack.
(:O Jose's venting? SUS!!)
I felt like that he's actually a cellphone AI made by someone related to Sophia's Creator. Like, Ichinose and co.
10:47 Xigbar is that you
Is it just me or did Jose just use PK Starstorm?
I thought I was seeing a Dynamaxed Pokemon use Max Starfall.
Look his a child and use a star move if it not PK Stardust then idk wtf i saw
CenturyBlade I see that.
men of culture
*PK*
*STAAAAAAAAAAARSTOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOORM!!!!!!*
Are you gonna upload the final boss tonight or are you waiting til release date?
Tomorrow night I will make it go live
The game has already been played in Japanese
@@MentalOutlvl6 I know lol, I've beaten it myself in Japanese. Just looking forward to see how it's dubbed.
@@05misogi i think its too similar to 5 probably wont buy it day one though but lavenza is adorable
He's definitely a interesting character, and u get to fight him to boot!
I can only imagine what P6 might hold and how he fits in.
At least Kasumi isn’t there, or Jose would of discover her weakness is cars
I swear that the hardest bossfights aren't from the adults, its a the children
Jose: "here I come!"
Me: Gets an ad
Ad: "RaID ShAdOW LeGEndS-"
Anybody else recognizes Jose voice actress cause I do to those who don’t know I’ll give you a hint she voiced a character in a Nickelodeon show that aired from 1996 to 2004
DAMN MY AMAZING EYES FOR READING THAT TITLE SO QUICKLY I SPOILED THAT THERES A JOSE FIGHT
Just had that fight with him before watching this vid. The fight was unexpected for me and when RITD plays, I knew it was no joke either.
I missed this battle when I played P5R, I was worried something bad happened, but I'm glad this battle was on good terms
You know how Caroline and Justine are both half of Lavenza? I'm thinking that Jose and Morgana might be two halves of a whole as well.
-Morgana was created by the Velvet Room, and Jose is implied to have connections to them as well.
-Their voices are very similar.
-They have similar goals: becoming vs. understanding humans.
-And most important, they both notably find Ann to be beautiful.
What does this mean?
@@treefiddy_Yugo-slay-via Can you elaborate on your question, please?
@@PriffyViole I was asking about the second part where you explain the similarities between morgana and jose what does that mean?
@@treefiddy_Yugo-slay-via It's just meant to be evidence to back up the theory.
Imagine getting into a fight with a kid in a goofy ass kart but he runs you the fuck down with a Tokyo Drift and it nearly kills your teammates.
Me: Jose (Spanish pronunciation)
Atlus: Jose (Portuguese pronunciation)
Also me: Damn you
This whole video reminds me of that one journalist who wrote a whole article about why she thinks this game is garbage except for Jose
@Tum Tum I haven't seen the article in a while and I have no keywords to Google it, but from what I remember she mainly complained that the game was too long originally and that adding more to hours to it was a god awful idea, she hated a decent majority of the characters, she said that the 3rd semester and new palace are bland at BEST, and that the new characters added in Royal are some of the worst ever.
But at least she really liked Jose tho
I searched for I and found it, it is called Persona 5 Royal: Bloat Without Focus
@@jackmaloney3063 May you be forever and eternally blessed in all of your coming ventures
@@FlappoTheSilentScientist damn i loved maruki and sumire, especially maruki tho he was a really good villain imo
Sounds like another SJW trying to push an agenda. Her name is Syrenne McNulty in case anyone is wondering. It’s obvious from her review that she went in with an obvious bias and was very close minded when playing the game. Reviewers like her are the reason why people think women shouldn’t play video games and why video game reviewers aren’t taken seriously anymore.
What pisses me off the most about her review is that she openly laughs and mocks Kazumi’s backstory. She clearly doesn’t have any heart for gaming. And she’s also pretentious enough to type spoilers using code. It’s obvious that she just rushed through the entire game so she could write a half assed review to turn a profit. And of course she likes Jose...you know that one character who has no bearing or importance in the actual story?!
And of course, her review was written on a site that has no comments available. Meaning she can freely write her piece of shit review with no criticism or backlash whatsoever.
I came to this video, after learning that you can fight Jose, in a boss battle. But the thing that caught my attention the most was the name of the team being 'Thot Busters'. Not gonna lie, I lost it for a moment there because of that name alone.
I really don't get why people spend way too many turns on supporting skills, not attack, 2 turns later you have to heal the whole party then use the supporting skills all over again.
Feels stupid to watch
when you see little kids in Persona you know they're gonna be deadly
Requiem Max new headcanon nanako is the strongest being is persona
@@Super-ln3kz Persona 4.
We gotta compare her with
Ken
The Twin Wardens (Caroline and Justine)
Lavenza
Jose
I haven't finished Persona 4 but I do know Lil miss Everydays great at your Junes.
Does this mean she's the killer!?
Doesn't jose remind anyone of Emil from nier automata? Merchants who rides vehicles, and both are serect bosses?
Very first vibe I got off of him to be honest.
Thought the same thing lol
Same thought, especially when he started the fight BY DRIFTING
THIS KID CAN USE _PK STARSTORM_ WHO ARE YOU????
Out of all the boss fights in P5, one with a smol egg boy in a toy car definitely wasn’t what I was expecting.
Then again, it’s better than literal Hitler.
Jose :"this hurts so much but am actually enjoying it"
Me:"that what she said"
Why do I have the feeling that he'll be in Persona 6 as an attendant of the Velvet Room? And that the concept of 6 would be learning about Humanity and their ways of the world?
Rivers in the Desert makes him the most badass boss in the entire game.
Lavenza says hi
I can't believe I missed this boss. I'm actually kinda mad at myself now because I collected every single stamp.
This would have been great to discover on my own, thanks for spoiling it despite me not even being subscribed to you from this popping up in my suggestions.
Vincent Lance it's not his fault lmfao
I mean have fun collecting all the stamps and then knowing to go to this place at the end of mementos
Me- hey Google, can you tell me something a masochist would say?
Google- 8:19
Can't wait Mona Car vs Jose on Persona 5:Racing all Night
"I'm not holding back!"
>Casually skrrts in his car and almost IK's 2 of the team
"i am me"....wait a minute...."thou art i...i art thou" hmmmm
Love him or hate him, Jose be packin' some smarts
The Only Flaw,Is That It Is Physically Impossible To Hate Jose
@@AlexHawkins2523 this comment was 2 years ago. how far did you scroll down my guy
Jose made me smile! Thank You for uploading this wonderful video CGInferno! 👍😃👌❗️
Being of Hispanic decent, I die a little when I hear the name Jose being pronounced as is xD. It is possible the name is said that way on purpose but I still can't help but die a little xD
Jose: I went all the smoke joker
Joker: Alright bet
Music started playing
*Jose is watching*
Poor kid didn't know how to react at Futaba cockblocking him on his super attack there at the end.
it's so unsatisfying when people dont sort their abilities. like Ziodyne, Maziodyne, Gods hand and then charge, like that ;;
This
it looks really disorganized but who cares, doesn’t relate to us in any way.
Honestly didn’t know you could do that
Yesterday I already finished persona 5 the royal, little late for the party, but something that I can´t get out of my head was Jose, and what he mentions. He did mention that there are more people out there that are aware of the persona users and the phantom thieves in the persona 5 context.
I don´t think Jose is related to the velvet room instead I suppose that the creation of Jose was similar to the assistants of Velvet Room, all of them have Yellow eyes we can bound this, to the fact that they are persona users in a sense but a shadow too, they are not humans at all.
About his name something is more deep than appears, Jose is a biblical name that literally mean "God will give" or more precisely, that person or being put Jose in that duty on purpose, he is aware of humankind and persona users maybe not aware of the phantom thieves but he is not human either.
This theory could be elaborated more, but to keep it simply there are two things to consider:
1. Jose is not related to the Velvet Room and its assistants but he is a similar being as them.
2. Is probably that in Persona 6 we will know more about them and as some has already stated maybe the thematic can be related to the religion in a way, gods or at least to the white color
3. Boss music and stars thematic (biblical sense) are there for a reason he is not a like every boss, he and that person he talks about will have more impact in persona series
I will see you in Persona 6 guys
How many of you are building rivers in the desert!?!?!
11:25
Everyone gangsta 'till a small child casts PK Starstorm.
A supposedly 10 year old boy Tokyo drifting the phantom thieves is I never thought I'd see in this game. xD
Jose is an expert of throwing ma___dyne attacks stored in a ball
I really wish that they played Mass Destruction for this fight.
Jose: Here I come!
*BABY BABY BABY BABY BABY*
Jose is actually played by Olivia Hack aka Ty Lee from Avatar The Last Airbender, and Cindy Brady from The Brady Bunch Movie and A Very Brady Sequel.
Didn’t max my stamps, but got a ton. Finally got to fight him.
I like how they made futaba more useful than her just having commentary’a during a fight
Is it just me or does One Shot Kill make the most satisfying sound with it hits?
If Futaba hadn't saved you at the end there, you'd have lost.
That was a beautiful battle
Interviewer:so why did You join smash?
Joker: well it all started when I was fight a toddler and I beat him then I realized that I like beating kids,
With the power of arsen :)
As someone who is also named Jose I approve this kid
You know shit bout to get real when river in the desert start playing 😂😂😂
Everyone: Jose
Me: José 🌮💃🇲🇽
When a child in a banana boat is a much harder boss battle than a corrupt prime minister
Im surprised Jose didn't bring his family, or his older brother *Ernesto*
I remember how long it took me to beat this guy and then I went into Mementos... without saving... and I FUCKING DIED.
nil, I don't know if you actually could save in that room.
15:54 You don't think he means...!
I really think he does... I'm all excited!
Oh man I sure do know what he means, I definitely definitely do
Does anyone mind explaining what he means? :/ P5 was my first Persona game, so I assume there's something I don't know?
Fritz Buhrmann I also have no idea lol I was just going with the flow. I hope someone else responds tho
I just realized something, asuming mementos disapeared the same way as the other palaces, jose probably went full overdrive to escape, asuming he escaped... damn I just depresed myself
If he is a Velvet attendant then he probably has a Teleportation spell quite like Elizabeth's when she Teleported from the end of space itself(Door Kuns place) to the moon, and from the moon to the earth.
I don't know if this Jose theory of mine holds value, if any at all, so just humor me. Spoilers for the original story (though since we're all here, you've most likely seen/played the original story)
Considering that Yaldobaoth hijacked the Velvet Room, split Lavenza in two and dawned the guise of Igor, most likely, Jose was created during this time. Igor created Morgana as a last resort to help prevent the coming ruin. In Royal's story, Jose was also created along with with Morgana, but wasn't given a purpose right away, as Igor wouldnt be able to do so on such short notice. So he was just a sentient doll with no purpose.
Around the time when the protagonist came time Shibuya and accidently stepped into the Metaverse, this drew the attention of the God of Control, Caroline & Justine, and Lavenza's consciousness, residing in the body of Philemon. In the state that she was in, she couldn't do much other than warn the protagonist about a way to change all of this. During this time, she also came across Jose, and gave him the task of studying humans by drinking flowers, and once finished, to report back to her, as she both knew it would take a long time to complete this task, and had faith in the Trickster to uncover the truth and return Lavenza back to normal.
Jose responded to this as his purpose and began his task, traveling throughout Mementos, learning more and more about humans. The more he did, the stronger he became, obtaining new abilities and even using his power to help his travels, Such as changing cognition.
Once he returns to Lavenza & Igor, with his newfound knowledge on humans, they welcome him as another resident of the Velvet Room, and in time, an attendant to another on their journey.
I have NO IDEA how plausible this sounds, but let's just see how things play out for now.