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People discuss a lot what part of Raz his archetype is supposed to be. the archetype power creates the version of him he feels he needs the most, and his archetype is a funny, silly, playful little guy. Also remember that despite temporary allies, Raz is mostly alone in his quest, and while doing so he needs to act as a helper and friend to the minds he visits. The Raz archetype was made to be Razputin's friend so he wouldn't be alone on his journey anymore.
I think a lot of people missed this because they’re probably younger, but Raz and his archetype are Invader Zim and GIR. Literally, they’re the same voice actors, but somewhat figuratively in how they think of themselves.
YES THIS THIS THIS!! I've always thought about how not only is Archetype like a friend or sort of a younger brother to Raz, he's also a support character. Cheers you occasionally, distracts enemies for you, and even can heal you What Raz needed was not only a little, goofy, silly littlebrother-esque friend, but also some support.
One Point of Raz asking for consent is, ho only started this after messing up Hollis Mind and being lectured by Sascha on the Power he holds. Its great seeing the Main Character actually grow himself in such a natural way. It's really rare nowadays to get such good character writing.
The fact that the sequel is just a week after the first game and few days after Rhombus of Ruin. To see Raz getting mature very fast is actually refreshing as many games never tackle maturity issue.
Another thing about Cassie is that the book segments are not written in English. But broken Latin. Which relays the lore of the game as a battle between 6 bees and a wasp. (I call it the apioform book) Now Cassie wrote Mindswarm out of necessity and the book was an extremely popular self help book. I like to interpret it as that Cassie thinks that Mindswarm was just intelligent sounding nonsense. And that people like Milla who thought it was helpful were just fooled by her. As if she wrote the book in a dead smart sounding language so nobody actually realizes how broken the contents are.
Problem is it wasn't. Cassie has a teaching archetype which doesn't fit in any of the scenarios in her life. Except against Maligula and the book itself. She teaches Raz and before, tried to help teach Lucrecia about her companions. She's also proud of the book as she happily signs it for Raz and used it to try and help Lucrecia. It's called Mindswarm and she was said to be able to control every cell in her brain. She genuinely tries to help people.
With Raz’s archetype being voiced by Gir, I just imagine a hilarious interaction going something like this: Sasha: Rasputin, I have some troubling news, The lumber stack pancake house is going to be demolished. Raz: Oh thank God! Sasha: I thought you be more upset. I thought you loved that place. Raz: oh no, my architype loves that place. I think it’s dirty. Archetype: I ate a raccoon there once! Raz: He did!
one thing i also find interesting that nobody seems to have mentioned so far is that each of the "surviving" psychic 7 members' coping mechanisms are reminiscent of the 5 stages of grief... denial: this isn't real. none of this is real. this is wrong, so it's not real, because nothing is wrong. nobody is sad, nobody is hurt, everything is totally fine. it was just a dream. (ford) anger: fuck it all! i hate everything! nobody understands me! nobody will ever understand me! everything is a threat! i'll be safer if everything just goes away and leaves me alone. (bob) bargaining: what happened happened because something was wrong with me. i need to change and become better. i need to get rid of the parts of me that cause problems, and do something to make others happier and more comfortable. (cassie) depression: i don't have enough energy, stability, or motivation to provide anymore, or prove that i'm of worth. this must mean that i'm worthless. the world will function just fine without me, so i'll hide away somewhere safe for the rest of time. (compton) acceptance: what happened was real and serious, but there's more to life than it. i've come to terms with my role in the entire event, and i am ready to move on, turning my attention to different things in the world now. (otto)
I don't think Ford ever denied it. Rather he simply couldn't handle it and sort of erased it, splitting his mind apart. He knew it was real, too real for him to live with what he's done.
My favorite scene in this level Raz: you look like you could teach me a lot about anatomy Muscle Man: You bet. How’s this for starters: There’s one of me inside of YOU! Raz: …Gross Muscle Man: Hey, that’s insensitive
@@ThoughtBubbleYT another one of my favorite interactions is with Sam and Raz at the abandoned pancake house Raz:Where’d you get the milk? Sam:🤔 Raz:From the goats? Sam:Oh… Yeah… that would have been easier Fran: *angry tweeting* Sam:Hey it brought us closer Fran! Raz:😨
One thing in particular I liked about this world is that not just Cassie's archetypes are two-dimensional paper representation - *everyone* is. Even when they are ostensibly real people, as is most evident in the counter-feiter part, they have been turned into less complex versions, whether they're made into literal representations of a characteristic or not. I interpreted that, and I might well be wrong, as how we tend to simplify experiences, either by a little or a lot, to better comprehend them and make them fit into what we perceive has happened. Again, I might be entirely wrong but that was my thought.
That's a good point but it makes me wonder why that's not the case for anyone else's mind. Maybe Cassie in particular has gotten into the habit of compartmentalizing people as a coping mechanism because archetypes are her specialty.
What sets Cassie's mind apart to me is just how the concept of Archetypes was presented. It's apparent that it didn't come innately like some psychics. It's evident that a long time ago, she deliberately chose to look inward and face an idea that scares and confuses most human beings: "Who am I, really?" and was able to turn it into a source of strength by answering: "I'd prefer it to be multiple choice." She essentially crafted a custom Psychic Ability through deliberate insight. But she's only human, strength can become a prison if you let it.
The shot of Otto stepping into the limelight is fascinating. I'm curious how he and Ford would've butted heads over the Psychonauts. While Ford may be the founder, the organization is Otto's, not Ford's.
@@ZeroTheHeartlessKing This was my thought exactly-- a DLC for 2 that's almost ENTIRELY a giant level inside Otto's head could be an excellent way to delve into really the only character LEFT who's got some obvious loose ends, especially considering how the rest of the Psychic Six seem to not _really_ like him all that much, personally.
An interesting thing about Cassie's mind is that, according to some unused audio lines in the game's files, there was originally supposed to be another archetype Raz had to retrieve in an area based on Cassie's time with the rest of the Psychic 7 in Green Needle Gulch before Maligula, and this area would also be where her mental constructs of the Psychic 7 resided.
Translation of the Latin in all the books. Top version is the version from the in-game files, bottom version is a direct translation of the in-game Latin text. Practice of the bees ~ One day, a wasp said "If you please, I will eat this hive of honeybees!" The six bravest bees got buzzing to create a plan to defeat their cousin. The first bee read her a story, but this plan got very gory. The second bee sang a peaceful song, but his performance quickly went wrong. The third bee asked for help from the ants, who ran away and said "No thanks." The fourth bee put some vines to use, but he got his when the wasp broke loose. The fifth bee tried to freeze her stiff, but she could barely feel the diff. The sixth bee, at last, had saved the day, but lost his mind along the way. The first bee took defeat the worst. Everyone failed, but she failed first. She sought to build a better self, and left her kindness on the shelf. She left the hive to build her own, but in her new hive, she's all alone. She scares strangers away, and lives there to this very day. ------ Advice of bees ~ One day, a wasp decided to destroy the beehive. Six of the strongest bees came out to fight back. The first bee read a story. It was bad. The second bee sang a song of peace. She hated him the most. The third bee begged the ants for help. The ants said "I don't want to." The fourth bee tied the wasp with vines. She broke loose. The fifth bee tried to freeze the wasp. She didn't notice. The sixth bee was the one who saved the day, but doing so broke him. The first bee was the most disappointing one. She failed in so many ways. She needed to become stronger, so she left her kindness on the desk. The beehive didn't notice, so she left. Her new beehive is so lonely. She scares visitors away from her beehive. This is how she will spend the rest of her life.
The bottom one sounds so much more depressing... The top gives off a more realistic impression, everyone's attempts failed but she still blames herself and left to try to become better but ultimately just became completely alone The bottom one instead feels much more consumed by self-loathing. "The most disappointing one", "the beehive didn't notice" Just an interesting difference in tone I feel
So wasp is Maligula and the bees are Cassie, Helmut, Compton, Bob, Otto, and Ford in that order. Interesting that Maligula is described as a cousin while everyone else are presumably siblings.
My favorite Psychic Seven. It's such a small line, but I love the little aside about not regretting the life of crime, it's just ... no one likes a snitch. :v
I would REALLY love to hear about the (highly spoiler) "practically dead" mind that Raz more or less helps bring back to life. Because I suffer from both anxiety and depression and am trying my best to recover, I really... empathized with the panic attacks and temptations towards regression that comes with trying to turn the lights back on, so to speak. Sometimes the hardest part is pushing back against a dreary but empty familiarity versus truly living. (A theme I also saw with Bob's Bottles)
10:59 Now something I find interesting is that, while Cassie not being close to Helmut and Bob compared to everyone else is true, I have noticed that, in every vault where Bob is being comforted from Helmut’s death, Cassie is the person doing so, she’s the one with here arm around him. It has made me wonder about the extent of her relationship with them, especially since we don’t get to hear a lot about it. Anyway, great video! Always love Psychonauts analysis
Cassie's level is actually one of my favorite levels in the game. I love how calming the music is and the library/literature austhetic. I loved talking to the npcs in this level more than any other and it has my favorite powerup with the archtype. I also probably related to her more than any of the psychic 6
In all likelihood, "Cassie O'Pia" is a nom de plume, which makes me wonder what Cassie's birth name is. She strikes me as a Xing-Mei. It means "star beauty".
I find Cassie’s level and story such a really telling story that a lot of people understand but may not fully get. Every person has someone different for different people, you act different for friends or for your family, these versions of us create who we are, But some of us, these versions of us develop into there own people, they may still refer to themselves as us, but they can be considered their own person to an extent, this is called DID (dissociative identity disorder, which can be commonly found with an ADHD diagnosis) I have DID, and Cassie’s story really speaks to me, though all of the parts are Cassie, they all have their own story and own personalities, and in the end they all do come together to “form Cassie” (which in terms of DID is called Integration, the process of working on yourself and all your alters, to become one again, not everyone who has DID wants to do this) But when you meet the “real Cassie” she still states what sounds like that this may be her outward appearance, the real Cassie is in her somewhere, which is probably referring to the fact maybe they didn’t all “become one” but now they are all working together to be who Cassie is, they didn’t do integration but are now actually working together, And as someone with DID, representation without the solution being integration, is really cool
I've always read Cassie and Ford to be plural, but unintentionally as representation. The idea of there being more than one in a mind, and especially with how Cassie would be a great example of a median system who has specific roles to work as parts of a whole, is a big thing. Ford reads as more of a traditional DID system, with memory barriers, steps to fusion which is often proposed in therapy (Which is iffy, but not being "whole" was obviously harming Ford), and headmates having various jobs. Both these characters read as really, really good plural representation, especially since what we often get is so negative and stigmatizing.
I know this comment is old, but this is exactly it! Neither Ford or Cassie appeared to be aware of their respective systems either. Yet each one had a personality, job, and was attached to the trauma that caused the split. Cassie was the one that got my attention, as someone with DID. My system was similar to hers at first, but once I realized there were others, they became more than "me but ___" and instead developed more as themselves. Heck, you can even stretch the theory that Bob's moth is a persecutor, similarly to Cassie's Librarian. They harm the host by suppressing others and enabling toxic habits, but with the intention of keeping the host safe. They're important, and not evil by a long shot, just a bit... misguided since all they know is the trauma and not wanting to go back there. With a "by any means necessary" mentality. I know because I have a persecutor and she's a loud BS-detector.
One fun thing I always thought pertaining to the size of everything in Cassie's main hub area was that it in part had to do with her isolation. Once the librarian came into the picture, she didn't really have any personal interaction with anything, there being one exception; her bees. I don't know if it was meant to be taken this way, but I felt like the librarian talked to Raz like Cassie would talk to one of her worker bees, whereas all the other aspects were used to interacting with people. I just love how much you can get out of each look at a mental world.
This dive into Jungian psychology is really cool! I do have a couple of friends who have DID, and they’ve said Cassie’s level struck a chord with them very closely, so I’ve always figured that was where the inspiration was found- it’s nice to see how different people see things differently!
God I just love analysis videos of Psychonauts levels. I never get tired of them! I love your channel in general. I‘ve also really enjoyed your Persona 5 Royal Maruki series! I love this type of deep analysis content. Thank you very much! Edit: forgot to mention this, but I never actually thought too much about how Raz asks/warns now that he‘s going into a mind. I think he started specifically after Hollis‘ incident too, where he learned what unwanted meddling can cause. Such subtle character writing is why I adore this series so much.
Thank you so much for enjoying this content and the Persona content! I feel like a lot of people who watch the channel like one or the other, so hearing that you liked both really means a lot! Also, I think that the growth of Raz in this game is really really fantastic especially coming from the last game.
As someone who has suffered with dissociative identity disorder and problems with even figuring out who and what we are, let alone coming to terms with it, Cassiopia's section in Psychonauts spoke to us on a level deeper than most people. We've had that archetype that wanted to just lock everyone away to maintain control and safety, we've had those moments where we had to make more of us just to survive, and most importantly: We had people that helped bring us out of that. Just like Raz did for Cassie. Our closest friends, the people that helped support us on our music endeavors, and especially our partner, all of them helped us be the cooperative mind we are today. We are not truly integrated or unified. Nor will we ever be. But we have made peace with what we are, and we know our boundaries, our purposes, our needs, our wants, and all of us work together to make a healthier mind. We are all useful in our own ways if we just listen and help each other. Just like Cassie's archetypes. There's a reason this section is our favorite out of the whole series.
After playing this level and learning about archetypes, it made me think about how and why I switch between interests in a relatively quick manner. My thoughts behind it was since I don't have much to do and have alot of free time on my hands, I tried to fill my time as well as my mind with these thoughts and interests, but I typically tend to focus on one or so at a time. Such as when we decorate our spaces & homes we are projecting our personalities, thoughts and interests on the world from our mind's eye. It's pretty incredible if you think about it. It's also gratifying to know since most of my personality & to an extent most of what I say stems from things I've heard in media, I've struggled here and there with wondering how much of me was really me. But maybe I didn't come up with it, but if I make it my own who's to say that can't be a part of me?
I've been looking forward to this one, since Cassie's Collection is VERY Jungian and so obviously I loved it because I'm also into a "certain other series." 4:33 This entire quote is perfect. I've noticed a lot of people online act like Cassie has Dissociative Identity Disorder, and I think it's less a case of that and more her "Personas" going out of control. Teacher Cassie, Forger Cassie, Librarian Cassie, etc are all different "masks" she puts on at different stages of her life and in different situations. And this, to go on a Persona tangent, is exactly why you get a bonus to Social Link points where you equip a matching Persona for the person you're talking to. We ALL do this. We use a different "persona" when talking to our friends vs our family vs strangers vs our boss. Cassie's going out of control and losing track of who her "real self" is reminds me a lot of Rise. The word "Persona" literally means "mask", and I felt so dumb when I finally realised that. It's why cast lists in plays are called "dramatis persona." 6:19 Oh man the shadows in the room are scribbles I love this level so much. 20:39 Cassie sums up the concept of Personas better than anything in Persona does. (If she was in a Persona game she'd definitely be a Wild Card) You summed up most of it here, but Cassie's backstory is extremely interesting, and terrifying given how often that kind of thing happens in life. I've seen it speculated that Cassie's lack of Judges but presence of Enablers might be an indicator of her relying on the success of Mindswarm, and her other accomplishments, to give her the ego boost she needs to push her past trauma out. It's the opposite to Compton, Bob and Helmut's cycle of self-deprecation but equally harmful. I like how the Die-Brarian's subtitles are still attributed to "Cassie". This is... probably my favourite mind in the game, but it's a VERY tough call. As for what to cover next? Really, any would be amazing. Bob, Ford or Helmut are the 3 at the top of my mind, but I'll be happy with whatever you cover next.
I fully agree! I love the Persona franchise with all of my heart, but man they definitely aren't the best representation of Jungian psychology. lol And I really like you point about the lack of Judges, I hadn't thought about that!
There's the "Mr Edogawa's TV Classroom" bonus videos in Persona 4 Golden, which go into Jung's work a bit more, but most people don't watch those. The point on Judges was actually something I saw in a comment on I think Compton's video, I just formed my own theory based on it.
5:01 yea i knew that would have popped up somewhere, congrats for lasting 5 minutes hahaha, jokes aside tho cassie's mind (the level itself) did give me the most "persona" vibes, maybe they used a little bit of that within her mind as well, don't know but i do like how you can kinda connect the concepts of persona's (mostly 4 since it has the biggest "accepting yourself" sort of thing) take on the persona and shadow along with psychonauts take on it
@@ThoughtBubbleYT it’s funny after I got the archetype power, i knew the voice sounded familiar, but it took my like five minutes to realize that it was Rikki Simons.
Bro your videos are always such a treat. I sympathize a lot with Cassie. I also didn't really like the town I was born. She inspires me to leave this place lol.
I realised something now this is more related to ford but I have a theory that fords personalities are archetypes that have outgrown what they use to be there similar to die-barian of course they are different because fords mind was shattered but i do feel like this is true
The fact that Ford Cruller.... SPOILERS SPOILERS SPOILERS SPOILERS SPOILERS ....mind wiped Lucrecia is bad enough, but shattering how own mind afterwards? This caused so much harm, not only to him but to everyone around him. He couldn't be there when Compton, Bob and Cassie needed him and he neglected to tell anyone about Helmut's brain. I get that he didn't want to bear the pain of what he did, but it was such an irresponsible action!
Wouldn't pyrokinesis have solved the bees issue, as well as the plants, if not for plot armor? The machine does not look overly flammable; all metal and such.
To be fair to raz, in this game he's way less enthusiastic about setting animals on fire lol. Not to mention the entire building wasn't made of metal so it could have spread. The floor under the carpets/blankets were wooden and there was I think? tree bark above the machine as well.
@@Babbleplay oh yeah, that's true! it's been awhile since I played. Maybe he just didn't want to upset the bees? or they were sentient-ish, like the one helping bob, and would have grown back? It would have been nice to see raz try to burn them away first before going to find bob, or talk to them like lilli.
I'm happy to see so many people pulling from Carl Jung. I agree that a lot of his work could be considered pseudoscience at this point, it really does make for a great writing vehicle. I use some of his work, though more his hermetic/occult side of his teaching, for one of my own comics and I know I'm not the only one since it gets compared to Persona a lot for many of the same reasons.
I really liked the way Hollis handled Raz's meddling. She took responsibility. "I was the adult in the room. You are a child." She completely won me over by holding herself accountable for what happened.
I've said this before but I think it's still worth bringing up, I'll still defend the...choice, choices of mental health reperesentation in the first psychonauts. If only because, the way I've always seen it with the patients of a long abandoned shit hole asylum, the way that Ford talks about how his psi powers were black and white instead of in color, and how the general vibe of psychonauts seems to be the 50s and especially the 60s/70s with Psychonauts 2, I feel like the actual joke of Psychonauts is how gung ho and ethics/morality distant second mental health was as a field during that era. I mean people were getting into some WILD Shit with psychology like traumatizing toddlers into fearing rabbits, asylums basically just being a Prison Zero sponsored by coke with all the malpractice you could imagine. It's made pretty clear that Raz genuinely wants to help people but doesn't really understand how to go about it in a safe, practical or ethical way. And as someone that would probably traumatize Raz if he ever made the mistake of entering my brain, that's pretty damn funny.
Recently I've been thinking about my real self too and then this comes out a day later. Love your content, keep up the good work and I can't wait for the other minds to explore!
Jung actually does have a point and it is the key to being happy and a functioning person. It is necessary to create a version of our selves that deals with current situation. but we do have a tendency to overuse a particular "archetype" long after it outlives the danger or usefulness of the time at that time. not really sustainable to leverage ALL the responsibilities under one instance. more about using your combined strength of all those versions rather than divided
Comments like these genuinely make my day because I have a lot of fun trying to find new ways to include them so they don't feel like they came out of nowhere!
I just had a thought. In most every time raz goes into someone’s mind he places the door on the back of their head. Not the front. Notable exception being Hollis or coach oleander which he puts the portal on the front of their head or they put the portal on the front of their head. Showing that he’s going to their conscious mind by the portal on the front of the head. The parts they allow others to see. And the back being the subconcious and abstract allowing raz to see what they push down and the more stylized parts of their mind. I forget if this worked the same way with the other teachers such as milla or Sasha but if so it shows they allow them in a more controlled part of their mind.
I got into Jungian Philosophy is college and never stopped. Archetypes and masks. For someone who is aneurotypical, masking is extremely important. I never show my true self. I can't.
28:44 I have that tattooed on the back of my hand after seeing that from meditation, I've been wondering for the longest time what it truly is and now I finally know
there's 2 i want to see but one requires another to be talked about and the other is very *split* for some people. bob's bottles and Ford's Fractured Mind (i know they all have different names but I'm just calling it Ford's fractured mind for simplicity sake). Bob's bottles needs Hollis's hot streak to be talked about first because they both tackle addiction in very different ways but Hollis is the more generalized version of it while bob is much more in depth and is just generally considered one of the greatest levels in that game
I kinda wish this was possible that we could actually have check ups like this but also terrifying as well I hope if they do make another psyconuts then have a new carctor a the main carctor so we can see raz minds and how he's dealing with his own trama because let's be honest there's definitely some from 1and2 that he had to handle on his own.
I think a great,if on the nose detail you didn't mention is how the die-brarian is a bi-dimensional character (as all the archetypes are) trying to act as a tri-dimensional one.
The idea of archetypes is interesting, but I feel like the ability could have more potential, like Raz summoning a barbarian archetype to aid in combat or a detective archetype to help find collectibles.
If there is any truth to the different aspects of the self, something like that could help explain why dissociative identity disorder is a psychiatric disorder.
This level would be a lot better if the voice actress for Cassie wasn’t so lackluster. Delivery and diction was awful and it doesn’t necessarily ruin it but it makes it so hard for me to be invested in Cassie the same way I was with Helmut or Bob
Hearing the way Raz talks to each of the Cassie's feels a lot different when you know someone with D.I.D. (Disassociative Identity Disorder), I'm by no means an expert in the subject, I'm hardly qualified to speak at all, but hearing him ask for "the real Cassie" did make me cringe a bit. For context, D.I.D. is a disorder in which for some reason, usually trauma your brain splits off what is essentially a separate person, who will sometimes be in control of the body or "front". I'm aware this is not the original intention, but the Cassie's act a lot like separate fronts, they each obviously have different personalities otherwise this whole video would be pointless, and the way they fight back for control is reminiscent of a frontal battle, in which multiple personalities front at the same time. This is a massive tangent basically just to say, Cassie reminds me of my friend. Also of note, though not super important: The librarian is rather reminiscent of one of my friends fronts, which kinda spurred on this whole idea.
2:25 not really, and I don’t know why people make such a big deal about this. He didn’t ask for consent when he was about to throw the door on Bob and he didn’t ask for consent when he went in the door for Truman.
In all fairness, he did ask Bob's permission, just not directly. And technically, lily was the one to put the door on Truman's head. Besides that, it wasn't exactly normal circumstances.
I mean, I think a lot of people mention this because Tim Schafer and Double Fine made a very specific point to mention in interviews about the game that Raz always get consent first in this game except in cases of dire emergency which explains Truman and Hollis. The point of this being that it also gives the opportunity to use the game to normalize the idea of seeking therapy.
@@ThoughtBubbleYT the point about seeking therapy isn’t directly related to the anecdote about asking for consent to enter someone’s mind, though. If they want to try and associate asking to enter a mind with a more serious take on being a Psychonaut, they could’ve at least provided any other character’s positive example of doing so. He doesn’t ask for consent to use Clairvoyance either, which is pretty intrusive.
@@Bloodshade I’m just going off of developer intent and how I interpret the game based off of the lessons Hollis teaches him at the beginning of the game. A huge aspect of this game is the ethics of trying to “Fix” someone and how it’s a Psychonauts role to help people to overcome their own internal struggles, exactly like a therapist. A really nice part of this game is that the devs provide the opportunity to read between the lines with these kinds of nuanced messages about the importance of therapy and the therapeutic process with out over explaining or being “preachy” which I love. And as someone who has a Master’s in Counseling, consent is a HUGELY vital piece of therapy so I’m glad it is addressed in this game.
I think what really gets me is you can guess, based on how Cassie dresses, Cassie O'Pia is likely an assumed name she took on for writing so that she wouldn't get caught out by Fanny. Cassie SEEMS to be Chinese and there seems to be a bit of History to the exploitation of Chinese workers wrapped up in her story.
As a median plural system, I felt very seen and represented by Cassie in a way I usually don't find in pop media. Usually, I can only find good representation of plurality in own-voices webfiction and fanfiction; and instead, pop media prefers harmful tropes like very nuanceless & ableist "evil alter ego" type stuff. Even if Cassie was intended as a look at jungian philosophy, I think the way she maps to plurality works just as well.
I think that representation is super important so if this level and Cassie make you feel seen and represented that's what matters more than anything!:)
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I have a question: where are you getting these transparent images of the enemies and cast?
People discuss a lot what part of Raz his archetype is supposed to be. the archetype power creates the version of him he feels he needs the most, and his archetype is a funny, silly, playful little guy. Also remember that despite temporary allies, Raz is mostly alone in his quest, and while doing so he needs to act as a helper and friend to the minds he visits. The Raz archetype was made to be Razputin's friend so he wouldn't be alone on his journey anymore.
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I think a lot of people missed this because they’re probably younger, but Raz and his archetype are Invader Zim and GIR. Literally, they’re the same voice actors, but somewhat figuratively in how they think of themselves.
OWIE THIS ONE HURT
YES THIS THIS THIS!! I've always thought about how not only is Archetype like a friend or sort of a younger brother to Raz, he's also a support character. Cheers you occasionally, distracts enemies for you, and even can heal you
What Raz needed was not only a little, goofy, silly littlebrother-esque friend, but also some support.
Also a... "decent" brother figure
One Point of Raz asking for consent is, ho only started this after messing up Hollis Mind and being lectured by Sascha on the Power he holds. Its great seeing the Main Character actually grow himself in such a natural way. It's really rare nowadays to get such good character writing.
The fact that the sequel is just a week after the first game and few days after Rhombus of Ruin. To see Raz getting mature very fast is actually refreshing as many games never tackle maturity issue.
Another thing about Cassie is that the book segments are not written in English. But broken Latin. Which relays the lore of the game as a battle between 6 bees and a wasp. (I call it the apioform book)
Now Cassie wrote Mindswarm out of necessity and the book was an extremely popular self help book.
I like to interpret it as that Cassie thinks that Mindswarm was just intelligent sounding nonsense. And that people like Milla who thought it was helpful were just fooled by her. As if she wrote the book in a dead smart sounding language so nobody actually realizes how broken the contents are.
That's actually pretty funny when you think about it
Problem is it wasn't.
Cassie has a teaching archetype which doesn't fit in any of the scenarios in her life. Except against Maligula and the book itself.
She teaches Raz and before, tried to help teach Lucrecia about her companions.
She's also proud of the book as she happily signs it for Raz and used it to try and help Lucrecia.
It's called Mindswarm and she was said to be able to control every cell in her brain. She genuinely tries to help people.
I thought it was just lorem ipsum modified to be vaguely wasp/bee themed.
With Raz’s archetype being voiced by Gir, I just imagine a hilarious interaction going something like this:
Sasha: Rasputin, I have some troubling news, The lumber stack pancake house is going to be demolished.
Raz: Oh thank God!
Sasha: I thought you be more upset. I thought you loved that place.
Raz: oh no, my architype loves that place. I think it’s dirty.
Archetype: I ate a raccoon there once!
Raz: He did!
OMG i can immedietly imagine that in girs voice too!
GUESS WHO WANTS WAFFLES?!
@@metarcee2483I'm not eating those
@@themilkman1938 *DEMONIC SCREECHING!!!!!!*
one thing i also find interesting that nobody seems to have mentioned so far is that each of the "surviving" psychic 7 members' coping mechanisms are reminiscent of the 5 stages of grief...
denial: this isn't real. none of this is real. this is wrong, so it's not real, because nothing is wrong. nobody is sad, nobody is hurt, everything is totally fine. it was just a dream. (ford)
anger: fuck it all! i hate everything! nobody understands me! nobody will ever understand me! everything is a threat! i'll be safer if everything just goes away and leaves me alone. (bob)
bargaining: what happened happened because something was wrong with me. i need to change and become better. i need to get rid of the parts of me that cause problems, and do something to make others happier and more comfortable. (cassie)
depression: i don't have enough energy, stability, or motivation to provide anymore, or prove that i'm of worth. this must mean that i'm worthless. the world will function just fine without me, so i'll hide away somewhere safe for the rest of time. (compton)
acceptance: what happened was real and serious, but there's more to life than it. i've come to terms with my role in the entire event, and i am ready to move on, turning my attention to different things in the world now. (otto)
Ohhhh, I hadn't thought about it like that before!
I don't think Ford ever denied it. Rather he simply couldn't handle it and sort of erased it, splitting his mind apart. He knew it was real, too real for him to live with what he's done.
This needs so much more likes, this is such a cool theory!
@@Jeikobu I feel like this is a stretch as any one of those are interchangeable with any of the Psychic 6 really
My favorite scene in this level
Raz: you look like you could teach me a lot about anatomy
Muscle Man: You bet. How’s this for starters: There’s one of me inside of YOU!
Raz: …Gross
Muscle Man: Hey, that’s insensitive
All the books and diagrams have some really underrated dialogue.
This level has some of my absolute favorite interactions.
@@ThoughtBubbleYT another one of my favorite interactions is with Sam and Raz at the abandoned pancake house
Raz:Where’d you get the milk?
Sam:🤔
Raz:From the goats?
Sam:Oh… Yeah… that would have been easier
Fran: *angry tweeting*
Sam:Hey it brought us closer Fran!
Raz:😨
One thing in particular I liked about this world is that not just Cassie's archetypes are two-dimensional paper representation - *everyone* is. Even when they are ostensibly real people, as is most evident in the counter-feiter part, they have been turned into less complex versions, whether they're made into literal representations of a characteristic or not. I interpreted that, and I might well be wrong, as how we tend to simplify experiences, either by a little or a lot, to better comprehend them and make them fit into what we perceive has happened.
Again, I might be entirely wrong but that was my thought.
That's a good point but it makes me wonder why that's not the case for anyone else's mind. Maybe Cassie in particular has gotten into the habit of compartmentalizing people as a coping mechanism because archetypes are her specialty.
What sets Cassie's mind apart to me is just how the concept of Archetypes was presented. It's apparent that it didn't come innately like some psychics. It's evident that a long time ago, she deliberately chose to look inward and face an idea that scares and confuses most human beings: "Who am I, really?" and was able to turn it into a source of strength by answering: "I'd prefer it to be multiple choice." She essentially crafted a custom Psychic Ability through deliberate insight. But she's only human, strength can become a prison if you let it.
The shot of Otto stepping into the limelight is fascinating. I'm curious how he and Ford would've butted heads over the Psychonauts. While Ford may be the founder, the organization is Otto's, not Ford's.
I really really hope we get to learn more about Otto in a potential Psychonauts 3 and the implications of Ford’s return.
@@ThoughtBubbleYT or maybe as dlc to hop into otto's mind maybe? : D meh i can dream
i do no remember ford needing to slap otto around a few times to keep his ego in check.
@@ZeroTheHeartlessKing This was my thought exactly-- a DLC for 2 that's almost ENTIRELY a giant level inside Otto's head could be an excellent way to delve into really the only character LEFT who's got some obvious loose ends, especially considering how the rest of the Psychic Six seem to not _really_ like him all that much, personally.
An interesting thing about Cassie's mind is that, according to some unused audio lines in the game's files, there was originally supposed to be another archetype Raz had to retrieve in an area based on Cassie's time with the rest of the Psychic 7 in Green Needle Gulch before Maligula, and this area would also be where her mental constructs of the Psychic 7 resided.
Translation of the Latin in all the books. Top version is the version from the in-game files, bottom version is a direct translation of the in-game Latin text.
Practice of the bees
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One day, a wasp said "If you please, I will eat this hive of honeybees!"
The six bravest bees got buzzing to create a plan to defeat their cousin.
The first bee read her a story, but this plan got very gory.
The second bee sang a peaceful song, but his performance quickly went wrong.
The third bee asked for help from the ants, who ran away and said "No thanks."
The fourth bee put some vines to use, but he got his when the wasp broke loose.
The fifth bee tried to freeze her stiff, but she could barely feel the diff.
The sixth bee, at last, had saved the day, but lost his mind along the way.
The first bee took defeat the worst. Everyone failed, but she failed first.
She sought to build a better self, and left her kindness on the shelf.
She left the hive to build her own, but in her new hive, she's all alone.
She scares strangers away, and lives there to this very day.
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Advice of bees
~
One day, a wasp decided to destroy the beehive.
Six of the strongest bees came out to fight back.
The first bee read a story. It was bad.
The second bee sang a song of peace. She hated him the most.
The third bee begged the ants for help. The ants said "I don't want to."
The fourth bee tied the wasp with vines. She broke loose.
The fifth bee tried to freeze the wasp. She didn't notice.
The sixth bee was the one who saved the day, but doing so broke him.
The first bee was the most disappointing one. She failed in so many ways.
She needed to become stronger, so she left her kindness on the desk.
The beehive didn't notice, so she left. Her new beehive is so lonely.
She scares visitors away from her beehive. This is how she will spend the rest of her life.
The bottom one sounds so much more depressing...
The top gives off a more realistic impression, everyone's attempts failed but she still blames herself and left to try to become better but ultimately just became completely alone
The bottom one instead feels much more consumed by self-loathing. "The most disappointing one", "the beehive didn't notice"
Just an interesting difference in tone I feel
So wasp is Maligula and the bees are Cassie, Helmut, Compton, Bob, Otto, and Ford in that order. Interesting that Maligula is described as a cousin while everyone else are presumably siblings.
"this is how she will spend the rest of her life" really just gets to me .............
This is so cool and provides A LOT of insight into Cassie. Thank you so much for sharing this!
I take it the two versions are from the perspectives of her Teacher and Outlaw archetypes respectively?
Fun fact: in the myth of perseus, the mother of Andromeda, perseus's wife, was named cassiopeia. Maybe that's what her name is referencing.
Oh, that’s really cool! I don’t know a whole lot about Greek Mythology, but I wouldn’t be surprised if her name was a direct reference to this!
It's also the name of a constellation, isn't it?
@@zuzuomelete I think the constellation is named after the mythical character.
@@alexjewett7455 Makes sense! Still, that's an awesome reference!!
I thought it was a joke on onomatopoeia
My favorite Psychic Seven. It's such a small line, but I love the little aside about not regretting the life of crime, it's just ... no one likes a snitch. :v
Snitching is a good lesson poorly taught.
I would REALLY love to hear about the (highly spoiler) "practically dead" mind that Raz more or less helps bring back to life. Because I suffer from both anxiety and depression and am trying my best to recover, I really... empathized with the panic attacks and temptations towards regression that comes with trying to turn the lights back on, so to speak. Sometimes the hardest part is pushing back against a dreary but empty familiarity versus truly living. (A theme I also saw with Bob's Bottles)
There will definitely be more Psychonauts videos to come!
@@ThoughtBubbleYT Legitimately if you did a video on every level from this game I would not complain at all
10:59 Now something I find interesting is that, while Cassie not being close to Helmut and Bob compared to everyone else is true, I have noticed that, in every vault where Bob is being comforted from Helmut’s death, Cassie is the person doing so, she’s the one with here arm around him.
It has made me wonder about the extent of her relationship with them, especially since we don’t get to hear a lot about it.
Anyway, great video! Always love Psychonauts analysis
Thank you so much! I'm glad you enjoyed!
Cassie def gives me 'team mom' energy, so even if shes not the closes it Bob, she'll still comfort him after such a horrible tragedy.
Cassie's level is actually one of my favorite levels in the game. I love how calming the music is and the library/literature austhetic. I loved talking to the npcs in this level more than any other and it has my favorite powerup with the archtype. I also probably related to her more than any of the psychic 6
It has so much personality and is so cozy!
In all likelihood, "Cassie O'Pia" is a nom de plume, which makes me wonder what Cassie's birth name is. She strikes me as a Xing-Mei. It means "star beauty".
I find Cassie’s level and story such a really telling story that a lot of people understand but may not fully get.
Every person has someone different for different people, you act different for friends or for your family, these versions of us create who we are,
But some of us, these versions of us develop into there own people, they may still refer to themselves as us, but they can be considered their own person to an extent, this is called DID (dissociative identity disorder, which can be commonly found with an ADHD diagnosis)
I have DID, and Cassie’s story really speaks to me, though all of the parts are Cassie, they all have their own story and own personalities, and in the end they all do come together to “form Cassie” (which in terms of DID is called Integration, the process of working on yourself and all your alters, to become one again, not everyone who has DID wants to do this)
But when you meet the “real Cassie” she still states what sounds like that this may be her outward appearance, the real Cassie is in her somewhere, which is probably referring to the fact maybe they didn’t all “become one” but now they are all working together to be who Cassie is, they didn’t do integration but are now actually working together,
And as someone with DID, representation without the solution being integration, is really cool
I've always read Cassie and Ford to be plural, but unintentionally as representation.
The idea of there being more than one in a mind, and especially with how Cassie would be a great example of a median system who has specific roles to work as parts of a whole, is a big thing. Ford reads as more of a traditional DID system, with memory barriers, steps to fusion which is often proposed in therapy (Which is iffy, but not being "whole" was obviously harming Ford), and headmates having various jobs.
Both these characters read as really, really good plural representation, especially since what we often get is so negative and stigmatizing.
I know this comment is old, but this is exactly it!
Neither Ford or Cassie appeared to be aware of their respective systems either. Yet each one had a personality, job, and was attached to the trauma that caused the split.
Cassie was the one that got my attention, as someone with DID. My system was similar to hers at first, but once I realized there were others, they became more than "me but ___" and instead developed more as themselves.
Heck, you can even stretch the theory that Bob's moth is a persecutor, similarly to Cassie's Librarian. They harm the host by suppressing others and enabling toxic habits, but with the intention of keeping the host safe. They're important, and not evil by a long shot, just a bit... misguided since all they know is the trauma and not wanting to go back there. With a "by any means necessary" mentality. I know because I have a persecutor and she's a loud BS-detector.
Am hoping you do a large special dedicated to Ford Cruller. That man has to suffer more than anybody else in the entire saga.
Considering that he's essentially 3 minds (4 if you count Tomb of the Sharkofogus), it'll probably be extra long.
I've definitely started thinking about how to discuss Ford at some point!
@@ThoughtBubbleYT YES
One fun thing I always thought pertaining to the size of everything in Cassie's main hub area was that it in part had to do with her isolation. Once the librarian came into the picture, she didn't really have any personal interaction with anything, there being one exception; her bees. I don't know if it was meant to be taken this way, but I felt like the librarian talked to Raz like Cassie would talk to one of her worker bees, whereas all the other aspects were used to interacting with people. I just love how much you can get out of each look at a mental world.
I love this level cause of the fact that they brought the voice of Gir for Raz's archetype. We finally got another Invader Zim reunion from that.
This dive into Jungian psychology is really cool!
I do have a couple of friends who have DID, and they’ve said Cassie’s level struck a chord with them very closely, so I’ve always figured that was where the inspiration was found- it’s nice to see how different people see things differently!
God I just love analysis videos of Psychonauts levels. I never get tired of them! I love your channel in general. I‘ve also really enjoyed your Persona 5 Royal Maruki series!
I love this type of deep analysis content. Thank you very much!
Edit: forgot to mention this, but I never actually thought too much about how Raz asks/warns now that he‘s going into a mind. I think he started specifically after Hollis‘ incident too, where he learned what unwanted meddling can cause. Such subtle character writing is why I adore this series so much.
Thank you so much for enjoying this content and the Persona content! I feel like a lot of people who watch the channel like one or the other, so hearing that you liked both really means a lot!
Also, I think that the growth of Raz in this game is really really fantastic especially coming from the last game.
As someone who has suffered with dissociative identity disorder and problems with even figuring out who and what we are, let alone coming to terms with it, Cassiopia's section in Psychonauts spoke to us on a level deeper than most people. We've had that archetype that wanted to just lock everyone away to maintain control and safety, we've had those moments where we had to make more of us just to survive, and most importantly: We had people that helped bring us out of that. Just like Raz did for Cassie. Our closest friends, the people that helped support us on our music endeavors, and especially our partner, all of them helped us be the cooperative mind we are today.
We are not truly integrated or unified. Nor will we ever be. But we have made peace with what we are, and we know our boundaries, our purposes, our needs, our wants, and all of us work together to make a healthier mind. We are all useful in our own ways if we just listen and help each other. Just like Cassie's archetypes.
There's a reason this section is our favorite out of the whole series.
After playing this level and learning about archetypes, it made me think about how and why I switch between interests in a relatively quick manner. My thoughts behind it was since I don't have much to do and have alot of free time on my hands, I tried to fill my time as well as my mind with these thoughts and interests, but I typically tend to focus on one or so at a time. Such as when we decorate our spaces & homes we are projecting our personalities, thoughts and interests on the world from our mind's eye.
It's pretty incredible if you think about it.
It's also gratifying to know since most of my personality & to an extent most of what I say stems from things I've heard in media, I've struggled here and there with wondering how much of me was really me. But maybe I didn't come up with it, but if I make it my own who's to say that can't be a part of me?
I've been looking forward to this one, since Cassie's Collection is VERY Jungian and so obviously I loved it because I'm also into a "certain other series."
4:33 This entire quote is perfect. I've noticed a lot of people online act like Cassie has Dissociative Identity Disorder, and I think it's less a case of that and more her "Personas" going out of control. Teacher Cassie, Forger Cassie, Librarian Cassie, etc are all different "masks" she puts on at different stages of her life and in different situations. And this, to go on a Persona tangent, is exactly why you get a bonus to Social Link points where you equip a matching Persona for the person you're talking to. We ALL do this. We use a different "persona" when talking to our friends vs our family vs strangers vs our boss.
Cassie's going out of control and losing track of who her "real self" is reminds me a lot of Rise.
The word "Persona" literally means "mask", and I felt so dumb when I finally realised that. It's why cast lists in plays are called "dramatis persona."
6:19 Oh man the shadows in the room are scribbles I love this level so much.
20:39 Cassie sums up the concept of Personas better than anything in Persona does. (If she was in a Persona game she'd definitely be a Wild Card)
You summed up most of it here, but Cassie's backstory is extremely interesting, and terrifying given how often that kind of thing happens in life.
I've seen it speculated that Cassie's lack of Judges but presence of Enablers might be an indicator of her relying on the success of Mindswarm, and her other accomplishments, to give her the ego boost she needs to push her past trauma out. It's the opposite to Compton, Bob and Helmut's cycle of self-deprecation but equally harmful.
I like how the Die-Brarian's subtitles are still attributed to "Cassie".
This is... probably my favourite mind in the game, but it's a VERY tough call. As for what to cover next? Really, any would be amazing. Bob, Ford or Helmut are the 3 at the top of my mind, but I'll be happy with whatever you cover next.
I fully agree! I love the Persona franchise with all of my heart, but man they definitely aren't the best representation of Jungian psychology. lol And I really like you point about the lack of Judges, I hadn't thought about that!
There's the "Mr Edogawa's TV Classroom" bonus videos in Persona 4 Golden, which go into Jung's work a bit more, but most people don't watch those.
The point on Judges was actually something I saw in a comment on I think Compton's video, I just formed my own theory based on it.
Ooooh! So the disconnectedness is a feature! Good to know! I understand compartmentalization a little bit more. Thanks so much!
Of course! I’m glad you enjoyed!
While not the slickest, this might be one of my favorite sponsor-plug transitions. Idk why but it got a legitimate chuckle out of me.
I will definitely take a chuckle! Lol
I always wondered how my own mind would look in one of these games
5:01 yea i knew that would have popped up somewhere, congrats for lasting 5 minutes hahaha, jokes aside tho cassie's mind (the level itself) did give me the most "persona" vibes, maybe they used a little bit of that within her mind as well, don't know but i do like how you can kinda connect the concepts of persona's (mostly 4 since it has the biggest "accepting yourself" sort of thing) take on the persona and shadow along with psychonauts take on it
oh i just realized the foreshadowing with the 3 bees being captured by raz. real clever
It’s so fascinating how much thought Schaefer put into designing the levels.
The quality of these games and levels is unmatched.
@@ThoughtBubbleYT it’s funny after I got the archetype power, i knew the voice sounded familiar, but it took my like five minutes to realize that it was Rikki Simons.
Please do either Helmet’s or Bob’s mind! They’re my absolute favorites and pretty interesting
Bro your videos are always such a treat. I sympathize a lot with Cassie. I also didn't really like the town I was born. She inspires me to leave this place lol.
I’m really glad that you enjoy the videos! Thank you so much!
I read this in another comment, but apparently Raz only asks for consent to enter a mind AFTER the incident with Hollis
I realised something now this is more related to ford but I have a theory that fords personalities are archetypes that have outgrown what they use to be there similar to die-barian of course they are different because fords mind was shattered but i do feel like this is true
The fact that Ford Cruller....
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....mind wiped Lucrecia is bad enough, but shattering how own mind afterwards? This caused so much harm, not only to him but to everyone around him. He couldn't be there when Compton, Bob and Cassie needed him and he neglected to tell anyone about Helmut's brain. I get that he didn't want to bear the pain of what he did, but it was such an irresponsible action!
Ford Culler is Obi Wan Kenobi
Psychonauts 1 & 2 are masterpieces, without a dooubt.
I 100% agree!
always floored by your transitions into the ad read
We might not have the return of the Milk Man.
We at least we got Gir (Raz’ Archetype)
The milkman is missed, but no one can argue with the inclusion of Gir.
@@ThoughtBubbleYT Indeed.
My therapist/counselor once told me, "there are multitudes to a person".
Wouldn't pyrokinesis have solved the bees issue, as well as the plants, if not for plot armor? The machine does not look overly flammable; all metal and such.
To be fair to raz, in this game he's way less enthusiastic about setting animals on fire lol.
Not to mention the entire building wasn't made of metal so it could have spread. The floor under the carpets/blankets were wooden and there was I think? tree bark above the machine as well.
@@FredwardDrawn Okay, point taken, but, other than certain objects, pyrokinesis fire doesn't seem to spread, in this universe.
@@Babbleplay oh yeah, that's true! it's been awhile since I played. Maybe he just didn't want to upset the bees? or they were sentient-ish, like the one helping bob, and would have grown back? It would have been nice to see raz try to burn them away first before going to find bob, or talk to them like lilli.
@@FredwardDrawn Yeah; the biggest reason is totally this game shows a kinder, gentler Raz who does not burn living creatures for HP and PSI ups.
@@Babbleplay keep in mind, although metal can handle fire, the electrical cords and bits in the machine can end up being damaged due to the fire.
I’ll be excited when you make a video on The Meat Circus.
I'm happy to see so many people pulling from Carl Jung. I agree that a lot of his work could be considered pseudoscience at this point, it really does make for a great writing vehicle. I use some of his work, though more his hermetic/occult side of his teaching, for one of my own comics and I know I'm not the only one since it gets compared to Persona a lot for many of the same reasons.
When I first heard Gir's voice I nearly keeled over because it felt so fitting for the archetype character.
Not only does Raz ask for consent before entering people's minds, he begins to only after he doesn't and messes someone up. He learned his lesson.
I really liked the way Hollis handled Raz's meddling. She took responsibility. "I was the adult in the room. You are a child." She completely won me over by holding herself accountable for what happened.
Every person who loved Invader Zim when playing this level: HOLY SHIT, YES!
I've said this before but I think it's still worth bringing up, I'll still defend the...choice, choices of mental health reperesentation in the first psychonauts. If only because, the way I've always seen it with the patients of a long abandoned shit hole asylum, the way that Ford talks about how his psi powers were black and white instead of in color, and how the general vibe of psychonauts seems to be the 50s and especially the 60s/70s with Psychonauts 2,
I feel like the actual joke of Psychonauts is how gung ho and ethics/morality distant second mental health was as a field during that era. I mean people were getting into some WILD Shit with psychology like traumatizing toddlers into fearing rabbits, asylums basically just being a Prison Zero sponsored by coke with all the malpractice you could imagine. It's made pretty clear that Raz genuinely wants to help people but doesn't really understand how to go about it in a safe, practical or ethical way.
And as someone that would probably traumatize Raz if he ever made the mistake of entering my brain, that's pretty damn funny.
Recently I've been thinking about my real self too and then this comes out a day later. Love your content, keep up the good work and I can't wait for the other minds to explore!
Another excellent entry ThoughtBubble!
Thank you so much!
I feel like the main conflict and ending of this level is what Emmet's subplot with Rex in The Lego Movie 2 should've been
*sniff*
Finally, after such a long time,
Zim and Gir are back together!
What a time to be alive!
Im so happy about that!
The writing and game design in this game is phenomenal .
Also great video on unraveling these details , well done
Jung actually does have a point and it is the key to being happy and a functioning person. It is necessary to create a version of our selves that deals with current situation. but we do have a tendency to overuse a particular "archetype" long after it outlives the danger or usefulness of the time at that time. not really sustainable to leverage ALL the responsibilities under one instance. more about using your combined strength of all those versions rather than divided
I would be really interested to hear your thoughts on Bob's Bottles. Both versions of Hollis' mind could be interesting too!
Both are definite possibilities!
It’s amazing how content creators like you are able to seamlessly include ads
Comments like these genuinely make my day because I have a lot of fun trying to find new ways to include them so they don't feel like they came out of nowhere!
I just had a thought. In most every time raz goes into someone’s mind he places the door on the back of their head. Not the front. Notable exception being Hollis or coach oleander which he puts the portal on the front of their head or they put the portal on the front of their head. Showing that he’s going to their conscious mind by the portal on the front of the head. The parts they allow others to see. And the back being the subconcious and abstract allowing raz to see what they push down and the more stylized parts of their mind. I forget if this worked the same way with the other teachers such as milla or Sasha but if so it shows they allow them in a more controlled part of their mind.
Oh my gosh CASIE!!! My gril!!!!!!
I got into Jungian Philosophy is college and never stopped. Archetypes and masks. For someone who is aneurotypical, masking is extremely important. I never show my true self. I can't.
What does my true self look like isn't a question I'll have ever had and can't relate at all
I also have never felt like a different me has ever happened
Thanks for the video. Did not even notice the kid and teenager sections my first time through.
Of course! I’m glad you enjoyed!
Dang, that transition was smoother than butter
28:44 I have that tattooed on the back of my hand after seeing that from meditation, I've been wondering for the longest time what it truly is and now I finally know
Compartmentalization! The visual puns in this game are genius!
Favorite level with my favorite song
The music in this level is so calming, I love it.
there's 2 i want to see but one requires another to be talked about and the other is very *split* for some people. bob's bottles and Ford's Fractured Mind (i know they all have different names but I'm just calling it Ford's fractured mind for simplicity sake). Bob's bottles needs Hollis's hot streak to be talked about first because they both tackle addiction in very different ways but Hollis is the more generalized version of it while bob is much more in depth and is just generally considered one of the greatest levels in that game
11:00 Bob paper model seems drenched and a bit "dirty"... was Cassie Aware perhaps of his drinkings habits ?
This game is a psychologists dream… it’s my favorite
I kinda wish this was possible that we could actually have check ups like this but also terrifying as well I hope if they do make another psyconuts then have a new carctor a the main carctor so we can see raz minds and how he's dealing with his own trama because let's be honest there's definitely some from 1and2 that he had to handle on his own.
Cassie: PERSONA!
I think a great,if on the nose detail you didn't mention is how the die-brarian is a bi-dimensional character (as all the archetypes are) trying to act as a tri-dimensional one.
The idea of archetypes is interesting, but I feel like the ability could have more potential, like Raz summoning a barbarian archetype to aid in combat or a detective archetype to help find collectibles.
Best level ever
He is also the Voice of Koas in Skylanders
Hot damn I'm early. May or may not update when I'm done watching.
If i don't, Love your videos :)
I’m glad that you enjoy!! I hope this one didn’t disappoint!
Green needle... mind swarm. kind of like how they suddenly referenced a mind trick
If there is any truth to the different aspects of the self, something like that could help explain why dissociative identity disorder is a psychiatric disorder.
please do Waterloo world next!
What was the level with the seeds and the bottles
I think the Diebrarian is same to Maligula. On some level.
It very well could be a nod to Maligula since they're surrounded by ink/water!
@@ThoughtBubbleYT i think more about that monsters being manifestation of fight-or-run instinct.
Cassie, and her persona/stand Green needle witch
Best level.
Hope you can do Helmut Fullbear's mind some time
It's definitely not out of the question.
Raz's archetype is voiced by the guy who does Grrr? I thought they sounded familiar the other day. Interesting.
This level would be a lot better if the voice actress for Cassie wasn’t so lackluster. Delivery and diction was awful and it doesn’t necessarily ruin it but it makes it so hard for me to be invested in Cassie the same way I was with Helmut or Bob
Hearing the way Raz talks to each of the Cassie's feels a lot different when you know someone with D.I.D. (Disassociative Identity Disorder), I'm by no means an expert in the subject, I'm hardly qualified to speak at all, but hearing him ask for "the real Cassie" did make me cringe a bit. For context, D.I.D. is a disorder in which for some reason, usually trauma your brain splits off what is essentially a separate person, who will sometimes be in control of the body or "front". I'm aware this is not the original intention, but the Cassie's act a lot like separate fronts, they each obviously have different personalities otherwise this whole video would be pointless, and the way they fight back for control is reminiscent of a frontal battle, in which multiple personalities front at the same time. This is a massive tangent basically just to say, Cassie reminds me of my friend. Also of note, though not super important: The librarian is rather reminiscent of one of my friends fronts, which kinda spurred on this whole idea.
how did you get on that globe ?? you like glitched up there ?? It’s impossible to use to drawers even when slowing them down.
Usually I hate sponsor sections but I like how this one just became a mukbang
I love how you made that transition to the sponsor, I didn’t expect it
Would love to see you cover Bob's Bottles 👀
I think, snacks integrations is better for compto's cookoff video.
Do a video on Bob zonnatto and lucrecia
Why don't you take a look at Loboto's mind? I would very much like to hear your take on it!
Unfortunately I have not had the chance to play the Rhombus of Ruin yet and I'd want to play that first!
Best history ever
2:25 not really, and I don’t know why people make such a big deal about this. He didn’t ask for consent when he was about to throw the door on Bob and he didn’t ask for consent when he went in the door for Truman.
In all fairness, he did ask Bob's permission, just not directly. And technically, lily was the one to put the door on Truman's head. Besides that, it wasn't exactly normal circumstances.
I mean, I think a lot of people mention this because Tim Schafer and Double Fine made a very specific point to mention in interviews about the game that Raz always get consent first in this game except in cases of dire emergency which explains Truman and Hollis. The point of this being that it also gives the opportunity to use the game to normalize the idea of seeking therapy.
@@ThoughtBubbleYT also, the hollis level made him realize just how much damage he can do if he's not careful.
@@ThoughtBubbleYT the point about seeking therapy isn’t directly related to the anecdote about asking for consent to enter someone’s mind, though. If they want to try and associate asking to enter a mind with a more serious take on being a Psychonaut, they could’ve at least provided any other character’s positive example of doing so. He doesn’t ask for consent to use Clairvoyance either, which is pretty intrusive.
@@Bloodshade I’m just going off of developer intent and how I interpret the game based off of the lessons Hollis teaches him at the beginning of the game. A huge aspect of this game is the ethics of trying to “Fix” someone and how it’s a Psychonauts role to help people to overcome their own internal struggles, exactly like a therapist. A really nice part of this game is that the devs provide the opportunity to read between the lines with these kinds of nuanced messages about the importance of therapy and the therapeutic process with out over explaining or being “preachy” which I love. And as someone who has a Master’s in Counseling, consent is a HUGELY vital piece of therapy so I’m glad it is addressed in this game.
Have you covered Bob's Bottles, or Psi King's Sensorium, yet?
I haven't!
@@ThoughtBubbleYT Well, perhaps you could do one of them, next.
Psy-King’s Sensoreum.
I think what really gets me is you can guess, based on how Cassie dresses, Cassie O'Pia is likely an assumed name she took on for writing so that she wouldn't get caught out by Fanny. Cassie SEEMS to be Chinese and there seems to be a bit of History to the exploitation of Chinese workers wrapped up in her story.
As a median plural system, I felt very seen and represented by Cassie in a way I usually don't find in pop media. Usually, I can only find good representation of plurality in own-voices webfiction and fanfiction; and instead, pop media prefers harmful tropes like very nuanceless & ableist "evil alter ego" type stuff. Even if Cassie was intended as a look at jungian philosophy, I think the way she maps to plurality works just as well.
DID is not a trend
I think that representation is super important so if this level and Cassie make you feel seen and represented that's what matters more than anything!:)