The Magnus Protocol 11 - Marked

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  • Опубликовано: 10 апр 2024
  • CAT23RC5246-06012020-11032024 Tattoo (corpse) / compulsion [email exchange]
    Incident Elements:- Thalassophobia- Obsession- Mentions of: corpses, exhumation
    Transcripts: shorturl.at/gzF15
    This episode is dedicated to Stuart Pollock, thank you for your generous support! You can a complete list of our Kickstarter backers rustyquill.com/the-magnus-pro...
    Created by Jonathan Sims and Alexander J Newall Directed by Alexander J Newall Written by Jonathan Sims Script Edited with additional material by Alexander J Newall
    Executive Producers April Sumner, Alexander J Newall, Jonathan Sims, Dani McDonough, Linn Ci, and Samantha F.G. Hamilton Associate Producers Jordan L. Hawk, Taylor Michaels, Nicole Perlman, Cetius d’Raven, and Megan Nice Produced by April Sumner Featuring (in order of appearance) Lowri Ann Davies as Celia RipleyBillie Hindle as Alice DyerShahan Hamza as Samama KhalidAnusia Battersby as Gwendolyn BouchardSarah Lambie as Lena KelleyJonathan Sims as Chester
    Dialogue Editor - Nico Vettese Sound Designer - Meg McKellar Mastering Editor - Catherine Rinella
    Music by Sam Jones (orchestral mix by Jake Jackson) Art by April Sumner
    SFX from Soundly and previously credited artists
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  • @thecheesycookie2767
    @thecheesycookie2767 2 месяца назад +371

    Sam :Is there a way to cross-reference cases?
    Yes Sam it’s called my spreadsheet

  • @everwonderwhyarewehere6559
    @everwonderwhyarewehere6559 2 месяца назад +335

    "Get some sleep you look dreadful" - the boss that sent her ignorant underling to meet with a fleshy teletubby from lovecraft's nightmare

    • @anusiabattersby6370
      @anusiabattersby6370 2 месяца назад +7

      Excellent comment.

    • @tybronx2446
      @tybronx2446 2 месяца назад +9

      It's very kind of you to assume Lena didn't send Gwen there on purpose (:

    • @everwonderwhyarewehere6559
      @everwonderwhyarewehere6559 2 месяца назад +14

      @@tybronx2446 Your absolutely right, what I should have said was, "the boss that sent her ignorant underling to meet with a fleshy teletubby from lovecraft's nightmare, as hazing"

    • @theanna8472
      @theanna8472 Месяц назад +3

      @@everwonderwhyarewehere6559 honestly, Lena is my favorite for that lol

    • @bluewolf619125
      @bluewolf619125 26 дней назад +1

      High-key, with how she got the position I'm not inclined to feel much sympathy for the lady.

  • @snufkin5976
    @snufkin5976 2 месяца назад +486

    I love how overly professional Gordon was in the email after he was told he wasn't being professional enough. Signing off with a full name and everything. Relatable

    • @lesbianmirandareid
      @lesbianmirandareid 2 месяца назад +4

      snufkin.....

    • @vamessasilrem1664
      @vamessasilrem1664 Месяц назад +3

      snufkin!!!

    • @twindrill2852
      @twindrill2852 Месяц назад +2

      And the reason _why_ he was being unprofessional was really just because he couldn’t help bringing up the ocean after possibly being marked.

    • @ravenwolf2220
      @ravenwolf2220 Месяц назад +4

      the fact he did it for an email.... and then immediately returned to how he was speaking before was just like me fr fr

  • @marinterry3055
    @marinterry3055 2 месяца назад +233

    The coffee shop. Being followed. Getting some Micheal and Sasha flashbacks.

    • @Mythicalwaters
      @Mythicalwaters Месяц назад +6

      YEP YEP YEP. and that one girl that jon was stalking

    • @avibingpotato
      @avibingpotato Месяц назад +1

      YES!!! Glad I'm not the only one.

  • @reeddiereed
    @reeddiereed 2 месяца назад +404

    can't believe gwen bouchard violated geneva's conventions by doing the worst crime ever - drinking celia's mocha :(

    • @TheHellforkwillreignterrorupon
      @TheHellforkwillreignterrorupon 2 месяца назад +18

      Honestly Gwen, how could you D:

    • @CasuallyUndead
      @CasuallyUndead 2 месяца назад +9

      She must pay for this >:[

    • @krishadyn5211
      @krishadyn5211 Месяц назад +1

      I have trouble with the accents sometimes. "Mocha" sounded like "mocker" and I assumed that was some British slang for making fun of somebody. I got confused when Sam said, "Here's a mocha!" and Alice raged about losing her 'mocker'. 🤔

    • @glumbortango7182
      @glumbortango7182 Месяц назад

      (Alice will remember that)

  • @Wragnaroq
    @Wragnaroq 2 месяца назад +178

    Certainly, there's nothing to read into here about the fact that, right after they went to the Magnus Archives and accidentally set something free, the next statement that Chester reads is about something terrible being exhumed from a grave. I'm sure it's nothing.

    • @ThatOneArchivist
      @ThatOneArchivist 2 месяца назад +19

      With quite a lot of mention of *”knowing* what's in the water” imo

    • @lemmetalkaboutthis
      @lemmetalkaboutthis 2 месяца назад +7

      omg, I didn't put that together at all lmao, I was too busy being excited about [ERROR] being out and about after having been greeted by a tape recorder haha

    • @triforceofcourage100
      @triforceofcourage100 Месяц назад +2

      I think Jonah is stirring

    • @krishadyn5211
      @krishadyn5211 Месяц назад +1

      @@triforceofcourage100 Now I'm thinking of "Jonah and the whale" and trying to figure out if it was intentional or me reading too much into things.
      I miss Elias and his wickedness.

    • @kehlcassidy9562
      @kehlcassidy9562 Месяц назад

      ​@@krishadyn5211Lena and her wickedness is pretty badass too tho! And she's equally as fuckable as Elias, in like a severe/sexy strict librarian way

  • @Wildjeo
    @Wildjeo 2 месяца назад +214

    Celia’s reaction to waking up on the side of the motorway, “oh darn! Oh gosh diddly doo, I’ve done it again!”

    • @lunawolf1493
      @lunawolf1493 2 месяца назад +8

      I think I was Celia

    • @Wildjeo
      @Wildjeo 2 месяца назад +3

      @@lunawolf1493 oh whoops! Well I’m just gonna edit it because it still applies

  • @Yumeki-san
    @Yumeki-san 2 месяца назад +507

    Considering where they went, I think I have an idea of just what could be making Alice feel watched..

    • @BlazingWarior26
      @BlazingWarior26 2 месяца назад +41

      👁

    • @Bear-bx7yo
      @Bear-bx7yo 2 месяца назад +1

      Spoilers tho

    • @crowsandghosts
      @crowsandghosts 2 месяца назад +30

      @@Bear-bx7yo Theories aren't spoilers

    • @thecheesycookie2767
      @thecheesycookie2767 2 месяца назад +9

      👁️

    • @ashw9924
      @ashw9924 2 месяца назад +10

      ​@@crowsandghosts I think some new viewers are watching without context of the Magnus archives

  • @_DragonHero_
    @_DragonHero_ 2 месяца назад +183

    Wanna cross reference the statements? even organise em? Archive them? even?? hmmm??

    • @krishadyn5211
      @krishadyn5211 Месяц назад +8

      Remember how Gertrude deliberately made the Archives hard to organize in order to delay the ritual? The Protocols system seems designed to be impossible to collate. I assumed that was sinister at first, a shadowy figure trying to hide behind mysteries, but I'm wondering now if it was a better method for preventing organization.

    • @_DragonHero_
      @_DragonHero_ Месяц назад +2

      @@krishadyn5211 Ye, but also it's been getting increasingly more difficult to use the 14 categories to define these statements and avatars. Tma had fears overlap before but within any given thing it was 2, maybe 3 fears at most with one usually taking more of the front ...this time around it's much more hectic
      Honestly, my running theory currently is that rituals havent even been invented in this universe. The OIAR too seems to be feeding all of them equally! Keeping the forces content and controlled. Tma's rivalry seems to be completely missing thus far

  • @ApioFluorescente
    @ApioFluorescente 2 месяца назад +305

    Dafuck happens with Celia at the beginning? Why does it sound like she just woke up on a random highway, and why does she imply it's not THE FIRST TIME IT HAPPENED? Is she doing research on time travel, other dimensions and teleportation because she randomnly TELEPORTS AROUND??

    • @cantaloupegodling352
      @cantaloupegodling352 2 месяца назад +83

      "Oopsie, slipped into another universe again. Wish I knew why that happened."

    • @Kassabonn
      @Kassabonn 2 месяца назад +78

      In the transcript it also says she's in her pyjamas. Poor girl went to sleep in her bed and woke up in field next to the highway

    • @Rietto
      @Rietto 2 месяца назад +30

      Sleepwalker, maybe.

    • @Evergreen_Trees_are_cool
      @Evergreen_Trees_are_cool 2 месяца назад +27

      Well it seems like mayhaps there's implications of this being the universe that the fears got transported to after the last series, maybe she's somehow the Celia from the prior universe?

    • @AlexDeMiro
      @AlexDeMiro 2 месяца назад +17

      and who's Jack

  • @catnerdadrian7601
    @catnerdadrian7601 2 месяца назад +227

    Good to know the watcher doesn't need a mobile connection to watch

    • @Evergreen_Trees_are_cool
      @Evergreen_Trees_are_cool 2 месяца назад +9

      I'm fairly certain it's not the Eye? At least I think that's what you meant? The recorders worked in the blind spots of the eye in the magnus archives, and the way Annabelle talked about the recorders it sounded like the web wasn't in control of them either. (Which yeah, I know, she could be lying, but what did she have to gain from that? A couple more tapes? She clearly seemed to think she had enough by the time she took Martin, so then why would there be any more recordings after that point? And after the fears had gone?)
      Honestly I have no idea but I'm absolutely in love with the way these guys make the Doylist explanation fit within the Watsonian

    • @sumitrana2420
      @sumitrana2420 2 месяца назад +8

      ​@@Evergreen_Trees_are_coolI think the tapes are from the Web but only 80% while being 20% of the eye. Do note that the very feature of the web is that it has plans withing plans within plans and so far out and complex that even the Avatars of that Fear are unable to understand them.

    • @krishadyn5211
      @krishadyn5211 Месяц назад +1

      @@sumitrana2420 The reason is that the Web is sentient, unlike the rest of the fears. So its Avatars are puppets too.
      I hope the tape recorders are more than the Web's shenanigans. That plot seemed done, Annabelle got her Archivist web of tapes. But someone said the tape recorders seemed to be more sentient? I assumed that was the Web. It would be nice if its not, if the tape recorders are separate, maybe not from the Web but as their own avatars of such.

  • @Yumeki-san
    @Yumeki-san 2 месяца назад +307

    "No. No, no. I watched Nigel's SOS every week as a kid. I know Mr. Bonzo. That thing was not Mr. Bonzo."
    I think I love Gwen now xd

    • @Kassabonn
      @Kassabonn 2 месяца назад +21

      During the first few episodes I assumed Gwen knew a lot about what's going on but she seems a lot more in the dark about all this than I assumed :')

    • @Wildjeo
      @Wildjeo 2 месяца назад +18

      @@Kassabonnshe probably like to think she knew a lot, but really she is way in over her head.

    • @theanna8472
      @theanna8472 Месяц назад +3

      @@Kassabonn she was probably thinking like criminal cartel, just because of how quick she was willing to blackmail and commit a crime lol

    • @krishadyn5211
      @krishadyn5211 Месяц назад

      @@theanna8472 I'm really curious what kind of person thinks there is a criminal cartel with assassinations going on, and blackmails their way into it. I mean, she wasn't upset about the potential murders, it was the SUPERNATURAL MONSTER that she wasn't ready for.

  • @elliesteele2027
    @elliesteele2027 2 месяца назад +201

    11:08 Sutherland Macdonald was a prominent English tattoo artist in the late 19th and early 20th centuries.
    Given Magnus's track record of incorporating historical events and figures into the plot, I think it's likely that this is the original identity of Ink5oul.

    • @Kassabonn
      @Kassabonn 2 месяца назад +23

      Oh that's very interesting. The guy who came to see the ship tattoo is definitely ink5oul since they were described to have a big serpent tattoo. And they seem a big fan of whoever did this piece

  • @marinterry3055
    @marinterry3055 2 месяца назад +92

    “The Deep” sounds so much like an entity name

    • @evanholt1752
      @evanholt1752 2 месяца назад +15

      I always thought that the fear of depths was somewhat overlooked in the original, split between the buried and the vast. It would be nice to get a new entity centred around it.

    • @yriiiiiii
      @yriiiiiii Месяц назад +14

      @@evanholt1752 well Jon did say it wasnt as simple as dividing them up that way, and there are things in the grey area between the "fears". I would also add that i feel "the deep" has some part lonely to it

    • @Alix_303
      @Alix_303 Месяц назад +6

      I feel like they would be based mostly around new phobias (needles, thalassophobia, the masklophobia, etc...) that we haven't seen much in TMA

    • @ludo_narr
      @ludo_narr Месяц назад +5

      Also feels like it overlaps with the Dark and the End. During the eyepocalypse there was a lake domain that was basically that.

    • @KendarIgloo
      @KendarIgloo Месяц назад +2

      We all think the same, don’t we?

  • @reaperassasin11
    @reaperassasin11 2 месяца назад +224

    4 minutes into the episode and they've given even more clear examples (if past incidents weren't enough) that Freddy makes a slight noise whenever someone lies......
    Edit: For people wanting more examples, a nice person has made a list of a few other times it has happened in the replies!

    • @undergnomes6248
      @undergnomes6248 2 месяца назад +13

      Thats what I thought I was hearing!

    • @thecheesycookie2767
      @thecheesycookie2767 2 месяца назад +23

      w a i t w h a t (I gotta add this to my theory doc)

    • @thedistinguished5255
      @thedistinguished5255 2 месяца назад +5

      timestamp?

    • @undergnomes6248
      @undergnomes6248 2 месяца назад +4

      @@thedistinguished5255 not entirely sure but it's pretty much as soon as she walks in

    • @reaperassasin11
      @reaperassasin11 2 месяца назад +34

      @@thedistinguished5255 There's a few throughout the ep, but a pretty clear one is when Sam tricks Alice about the pastry at 3:30! He choose cinnamon swirl and there's a sharp noise (likely from Freddy, indicating he's lying). Alice then gives him pan au chocolat and then realizes Sam wanted that one in the first place. It's probably easier to notice them with headphones!

  • @crist.9510
    @crist.9510 2 месяца назад +136

    It’d be incredibly ironic if Alice was marked by the eye despite desperately trying to keep her head down. Like, the Dark would make sense but the irony of the Eye is just too interesting imo

    • @HimitsuHunter
      @HimitsuHunter 2 месяца назад +22

      Eh... she's not yet Avatar material. She's marked and thus she FEARS being watched, being followed, and singled out.
      It makes sense that she's marked by the Eye.

    • @ThatOneArchivist
      @ThatOneArchivist 2 месяца назад +7

      @@HimitsuHuntergranted, markings can likely turn into being an avatar if given enough obsession into the marking. But i feel like she's leaning into Lonely territory and Sam isnt Eye Avatar material yet but he seems to be venturing the path

    • @JustCallMeEmily
      @JustCallMeEmily 2 месяца назад +5

      Going by one tiktoker's theory (one that even convinced me, though it's too early for me to tell rn). I think she's more connected to Spiral actually >_>

    • @hamburgerdog25
      @hamburgerdog25 2 месяца назад +6

      ​@@ThatOneArchivist I saw someone else's comment say that Sam could be the avatar of the Web. Like how he tricked Alice into giving him the chocolate one. And then think about how he's trying to find the connection between cases, the thorough paperwork with all boxes and backgrounds checked, the investigations to find more information

    • @crist.9510
      @crist.9510 Месяц назад +2

      @@hamburgerdog25ooooh that’s a very interesting one. He’s so sweet too and his curiosity seems so natural (at least natural for these ppl’s employee standards). Which is pretty web like, making it all seem like every carefully planned step is just the way things were supposed to go, that’s a cool theory

  • @OpenBiolabsGuy
    @OpenBiolabsGuy 2 месяца назад +65

    They’re using monsters as hitmen! Yeah we’ve pole vaulted past the “Are we the baddies” stage and right into “How deep does this rabbit hole go?”

    • @krishadyn5211
      @krishadyn5211 Месяц назад +4

      Someone realized they couldn't get rid of the Fears and they'd keep creating monsters, so they decided to try to control the situation by feeding them/using them. Old govt trick, back to when you bribed the local pirates.

  • @Kassabonn
    @Kassabonn 2 месяца назад +233

    Ink5oul from episode 2 was described as having a large floral serpent tattoo. So it does seem like the guy who came to look at the body with the ship tattoo is our paranormal tattoo artist buddy ink5oul.
    Edit:
    It also doesnt sound like ik5oul is responsible for the ship tattoo, but rather like they're is a big fan of the tattoo artist who did this piece

    • @cybersearcher1041
      @cybersearcher1041 2 месяца назад +8

      Fuckin’ knew that the tattoo artist was associated with this statement. Thanks for catching this one mate.

    • @lazygravy_brook
      @lazygravy_brook 2 месяца назад +13

      looking up Sutherland MacDonald, they were a really big tattoo artist a few hundred years back. I wonder if this might be like an Edmund Halley situation where they'll be a stand-out avatar from history

    • @Kassabonn
      @Kassabonn 2 месяца назад +4

      ​@@lazygravy_brook"The tattoo is an Oscar Jarret" "something to do with Sutherland McDonald"
      I wonder if this Oscar Jarret is maybe like, an apprentice of Sutherland or something like that

    • @lazygravy_brook
      @lazygravy_brook 2 месяца назад +5

      @@Kassabonn maybe like Smirke with George Gilbert Scott (also, never looked up Smirke before, but apparently he's a real guy too! ya learn somethin new every day.)

    • @happymystake4123
      @happymystake4123 2 месяца назад

      I thought it is in5oul too, I was going to check the episode to see the tattoo description, so thanks for the confirmation

  • @Yumeki-san
    @Yumeki-san 2 месяца назад +139

    "I just need to see it. I need to know what's in the water."
    Dam it.. I can't believe I'm agreeing with the crazy person in a statement xd

  • @bowlerhatfilmsandreviews2778
    @bowlerhatfilmsandreviews2778 2 месяца назад +122

    Theory time; I think Sam will be an avatar of the Web. Stuff like tricking Alice into giving him the pastry he wanted seems cute and all but it shows someone who knows how to pull strings and understand how the minds of his friend works. He feels he’s missing out on not being accepted by the program he went through as a kid; what if he finds completion as a willing avatar of some kind

    • @dudeno5042
      @dudeno5042 2 месяца назад +2

      Was the institute an avatar mill?

    • @bowlerhatfilmsandreviews2778
      @bowlerhatfilmsandreviews2778 2 месяца назад +3

      @@dudeno5042 that’s the vibe I’m getting for this universe, the ARG leans more into it but we heard Gerry and Sam talk about a program they did as kids it sounded like they were testing them, seeing if they were compatible. But there’s still a lot we don’t know so far, the Fears/Avatars may not even work the same way in this world

    • @ericdickert9795
      @ericdickert9795 2 месяца назад

      I was honestly thinking celia was the web, but it was mostly in thw way she talks and answers questions.

  • @brasstacks7398
    @brasstacks7398 2 месяца назад +100

    Alright. Red string time.
    In Archives, we're told that the only reason the the Entities split into the 14 is because Robert Smirked categorized them and then his list became the accepted norm.
    If the entities are understood in a way that separates them, then they separate.
    OAIR's marking systems give thousands upon thousands upon thousands of minute ways to categorize the supernatural occurrences.
    I strongly believe that the concept of Smirke's 14 is completely absent from Protocol, and is instead replaced by thousands of hyper specific ones. As a side effect of this, Protocol statements are prone to "bleed through" between multiple of what we understand as Smirke's 14. Like how Putting Down Roots has aspects of the Flesh, Corruption, and Lonely

    • @captaincrazycreative
      @captaincrazycreative 2 месяца назад +7

      Ooohhh I really like this interpretation

    • @brasstacks7398
      @brasstacks7398 2 месяца назад +1

      If we subscribe to the highly likely theory that this is the dimensions the entities got sucked into post MAG 200, and with OAIR being a government agency, the creation of OAIR may've been in response to occurrences tied to fears emerging.
      Maybe it's purpose is to spread the entities's powers thin by segmenting them as many times as they can.
      I mean, if you were a cosmic unknowable entity that had to feed on a very, VERY particular kind of heebie jeebie, then you'd probably spend all your time tryna find that rather than tryna get people to do world ending rituals

    • @brasstacks7398
      @brasstacks7398 2 месяца назад +20

      1downside side effect of wholeheartedly believe this theory is that now I get peeved when I see folks attempting to categorize Protocol statements into Smirke's 14, because it just....doesn't fit neatly. Yeah some have pretty clear cut ones (Slaughter Violin statement was great), but again, there's too much "bleed through". Too many loose strings that'd be real bad to tug on

    • @Nikowo1610
      @Nikowo1610 2 месяца назад +13

      Alice did say the system is specifically made so cases can't be connected and are all standalone, so yeah that does seem very possible

    • @codenamejinza
      @codenamejinza 2 месяца назад +2

      I'm not saying you're wrong, but it the marking system seems more like putting up a genus and family for an unidentified species as opposed to Smirke's, which is outright naming the Fear for what it is.
      Putting Down Roots is the Corruption, for me, which preys upon the lonely as well as The Lonely itself, specifically the ones that yearn to *not* be alone and find a sense of belonging. Smirke's categorization had 'bleeds' too, after all. My own personal theory, for example, is that The Extinction was originally part of The End until it got enough definition behind it to become its own individual Fear.
      But that's just me. Maybe I'm wrong and Protocol is embracing the Fear-Animal Kingdom...which I'll admit is an interesting idea.

  • @azcdtixs
    @azcdtixs 2 месяца назад +101

    The tattoos is the leitners in this universe

  • @Nuxxypuxxy
    @Nuxxypuxxy 2 месяца назад +110

    FINALLY MY MAGNUS THURSDAY IS BACK

  • @Yumeki-san
    @Yumeki-san 2 месяца назад +68

    I'm so glad that Sam is smart and realised that this and the other tattoo mentioning statement might be related T∀T

  • @brasstacks7398
    @brasstacks7398 2 месяца назад +58

    Did Gwen's cadence when addressing everyone after Celia showed up late remind anyone else of how Elias would talk?

    • @codenamejinza
      @codenamejinza 2 месяца назад +25

      Well, she *is* a Bouchard 😉

    • @dobyk5338
      @dobyk5338 2 месяца назад +4

      That's exactly what I thought!

    • @benjaminjenkins2384
      @benjaminjenkins2384 2 месяца назад +8

      Tbh, I feel like that's kind of a red herring, Lina is the one who consistently displays Elias' (Magnus') word choice, speech patterns, and mannerisms.

    • @krishadyn5211
      @krishadyn5211 Месяц назад +2

      @@benjaminjenkins2384 But Elias used to be his own person too. He had an influential family he couldn't live up to. Then the boss thought he might be *useful*. Being a Bouchard means you get to be yourself AND Jonah sometimes. ;)

    • @benjaminjenkins2384
      @benjaminjenkins2384 Месяц назад +1

      @@krishadyn5211 Yeah but Elias og and Magnus as Elias are strongly implied to act very differently if I remember correctly, and While I dont remember og Elias super well from the like one thing we hear from him, Lina has the same cadence, as, and similar word choice to, Jonah Magnus as Elias.

  • @Statical7700
    @Statical7700 2 месяца назад +14

    "get some sleep"
    - company authority casually reminding their employee who they know just went through a possibly traumatic life-changing experience

  • @elliesteele2027
    @elliesteele2027 2 месяца назад +91

    1:24 Pre-case
    5:45 Case (Vast, Flesh) [Email Thread: Chester]
    15:41 Post-case

    • @felixrivera895
      @felixrivera895 2 месяца назад +10

      I would say the case has little to do with the Flesh. The End, and a dash of forbidden knowledge for spice.
      Just because there was a dead body doesn't mean its flesh.

    • @elliesteele2027
      @elliesteele2027 2 месяца назад +12

      @@felixrivera895 I'm saying flesh because the person with the snake tattoo is likely Ink5oul from episode 2. In that episode there were heavy themes of body dysmorphia and modification related to them and their tattoos.

    • @hircenedaelen
      @hircenedaelen 2 месяца назад +1

      I'm calling vast vs stranger

    • @codenamejinza
      @codenamejinza 2 месяца назад +8

      This is totes a Vast, Deep Sea Edition case.
      ...The Deep...could that be The Vast's analogue in this universe?

    • @roberthultgren9389
      @roberthultgren9389 2 месяца назад +6

      The buried had connotations of drowning and is also a contender for influencing the deep. The cemetery angle reinforces this association.

  • @rat3445
    @rat3445 2 месяца назад +18

    Anyone notice that at 16:05 the computer makes a sound when Alice 'changes her mind' about being forthcoming with sam about the filing system

    • @hamburgerdog25
      @hamburgerdog25 2 месяца назад +7

      Somebody else noticed that Fr3d1 makes a little zip sound when Sam says he wants the cinnamon swirl becausee Sam was lying, and that that sound happens everytime someone lies. I'm going to have to go back and listen for myself in the other episodes but I think they're right

  • @invadertangent8304
    @invadertangent8304 2 месяца назад +15

    The real horror is realizing the episode is over and you need more

  • @pyrosianheir
    @pyrosianheir 2 месяца назад +15

    Sam and Alice are too cute and sweet to each other...
    One of them is dying or horribly traumatized by the end of the season...
    Also, wonder if the thing from 10 that's following Alice now is just an Old Archivist. One of the weird things that gathered at the base of the Panopticon?

    • @krishadyn5211
      @krishadyn5211 Месяц назад +1

      It upset me that we didn't get much of them except secondhand. But the sound reminded me of a different monster so I'm not holding out hopes.

  • @knelly7132
    @knelly7132 2 месяца назад +50

    MY PRECIOUS WOMWOMWOM HAS RETURNED

  • @Bear-bx7yo
    @Bear-bx7yo 2 месяца назад +27

    It's interesting that whatever is in the computers that's recording everything doesn't need Internet to listen in. Otherwise she couldn't be recorded with no signal

    • @krishadyn5211
      @krishadyn5211 Месяц назад +1

      Well, the tape recorders never needed the internet. If everything has a demonic algorithm collecting important moments, the various bits can upload later.

  • @beanteaboy5534
    @beanteaboy5534 2 месяца назад +20

    THAT *THING* WAS *NOT MR. BONZO*

  • @TheNitpickChick
    @TheNitpickChick 2 месяца назад +34

    An interesting statement! Great to hear about Ink5oul again, for one, and for another, I’m getting big Vast vibes from the rest of it! A ship on the vast ocean, something horrible and unknowable in the depths, lots of mentions of “The Deep”, etc.
    I’m a big fan of The Vast, so this made me really happy! 😁
    I still feel like I need to analyze it a bit more, though, to figure out what happened. The medical examiner died, somehow, and is “with the sea, now.” My guess is that his close work with the sea tattooed body either mentally affected him, causing him to throw himself into the sea; or the tattoo physically did something supernatural to him, and his body was later found in the sea.
    This makes me wonder why Ink5oul took the body. Was it for noble or nefarious reasons? Was it to prevent anyone else from being killed by the tattoo? Or was it to take it for themself, to use its power for their own purposes?

    • @Kassabonn
      @Kassabonn 2 месяца назад +2

      I also feel like there might be a hint of the hunt. With the shape in the water that's chasing the boat. And with how obsessed they seemed to figure out what the shape is

  • @TheNitpickChick
    @TheNitpickChick 2 месяца назад +68

    Oh, it’s so good to be back!!! I am SO NORMAL about this show!!! 👁️👁️ 😅
    Okay! Lots to unpack here!
    1. Celia is sleepwalking? Often enough that she sleeps with a phone in her pocket? Yikes! Also, who’s the Jack she mentioned, I wonder? (Another interesting note: whoever/whatever is listening was able to tap into Celia’s phone, remotely, even though she said her phone had no signal. Very interesting… 🤔)
    2. “At least it wasn’t both legs” and “who needs grandparents anyway”. Interesting backstory tidbits there. Did Sam severely injure his leg at some point? I don’t think that would be from the Magnus Institute search, since Sam and Alice walked away at the end of that, without issue, so it makes me wonder.
    3. Alice is feeling watched and having nightmares after the trip to the Magnus Institute?! I am _concerned!!!_ 😰
    4. INK5OUL!!! Great to hear about you again! Interesting that they apparently didn’t do the ship tattoo themself, but instead it was done by “Oscar Jarrett”? I’m curious what their interest in the body/tattoo was, or why they took the body… if Ink5oul is indeed a Flesh avatar, as some people suspect, it doesn’t bode well if they’re body snatching.
    5. Mr. Bonzo is only one of the “externals”?! Does the OIAR work with/command various avatars or monsters?! Are they all hitmen, or are there various tasks they’re sent out to do? (I’m morbidly curious about who Mr. Bonzo was sent after, and what he’ll do to them.)

    • @nanuqo2006
      @nanuqo2006 2 месяца назад

      It was Alice

    • @TheNitpickChick
      @TheNitpickChick 2 месяца назад

      @@nanuqo2006What was Alice?

    • @nanuqo2006
      @nanuqo2006 2 месяца назад

      @@TheNitpickChick Bonzo's been sent to kill Alice

    • @Nikowo1610
      @Nikowo1610 2 месяца назад +1

      I feel like he's probably been sent to kill Klaus?

    • @brasstacks7398
      @brasstacks7398 2 месяца назад +1

      ​@@Nikowo1610or Teddy

  • @marinterry3055
    @marinterry3055 2 месяца назад +21

    Chester reading a case with (compulsion) in the name is CRAZY. Jon being Chester and Jon being plagued by compulsions from the eye…

  • @Clarebear0925
    @Clarebear0925 2 месяца назад +24

    Hi im only 4:46 into the episode but there keeps being noises whenever someone says a lie (Sam wanting the cinnamon swirl, Alice saying she’s alright)
    Just wanted to put that out there
    It just did it at 16:06 when Alice said that it’s right to not think about the cases too much… interesting….

    • @Vicky-uv8ri
      @Vicky-uv8ri 2 месяца назад +4

      YES! That hissing sound! The conversation around minute 18 has a bunch of it.

    • @lemmetalkaboutthis
      @lemmetalkaboutthis 2 месяца назад +3

      I KNEW I wasn't hearing things wrong! The script doesn't mention the sounds, so I thought I was reading too much into it, but I think you're right. Freddie has GOT to be somewhere in the watcher-territory, right? And they hate lies, it'd make sense for it to be a bit huffy or act up

  • @robdean6893
    @robdean6893 2 месяца назад +14

    I marathoned Archives and Protocol over a few weeks and I don't think I've been this excited for a new episode since I was a kid. I'm in love with this show!

  • @CamilleChauTempsDesCerises
    @CamilleChauTempsDesCerises 2 месяца назад +24

    - See the name of the episode
    - Hype 📈📈📈

  • @wintercrescent2396
    @wintercrescent2396 2 месяца назад +17

    WE’RE BACK LADIES, THEYS, AND GENTS! WOOOOOO!!!

  • @rooklightstone2339
    @rooklightstone2339 2 месяца назад +23

    Ayyyyyyyy we survived the hiatus!

  • @AlexDeMiro
    @AlexDeMiro 2 месяца назад +8

    1:30 is that Celia? "not again" could mean she's waking up at an unexpected place (a highway, from the sound of it?), and it's not the first time
    1:50 if her phone doesn't have a signal... how does the entity turn it on and let us listen through it? Who's Jack?!
    3:36 the cinnamon swirl choice was a lie; and there is a barely audible chirp in the background to indicate it
    4:37 "it's nothing"... and there is that chirp in the background noise. SomeTHING definitely knows when people around are lying - it's the same noise when Gwen lied in a previous episode.
    5:19 "I'm just jumpy"... what is THIS background noise? I'm sure I've heard it before.
    17:42 "emergency at home" sure there was (chirp sound again); she definitely woke up somewhere unfamiliar
    18:20 "one of my radiators" again, a lie, these sounds are really consistent
    20:50 Oh FFS, COLIN

  • @bunnyofderp3564
    @bunnyofderp3564 2 месяца назад +17

    "You all really should get to work, otherwise you'll never get out of here." uhhhhhhhhh yeah? What's that mean, huh?

    • @happymystake4123
      @happymystake4123 2 месяца назад +1

      Is it just me or does everything Alice says sounds like ominous foreshadowing!?!

  • @Alex-gr3ko
    @Alex-gr3ko 2 месяца назад +3

    Im such a sucker for the magnus archive and the magnus protocol, i love folowing these charchters and their stories and its just amazingly written. This os by far my favourite horror podcast

  • @assignedturtle
    @assignedturtle 2 месяца назад +7

    I've just about finished Archives for the second time, and I'm very excited to see a new Protocol episode out!

  • @matthewgeorge9051
    @matthewgeorge9051 2 месяца назад +8

    Yeah, The Vast

  • @anastasiaszafranski7660
    @anastasiaszafranski7660 2 месяца назад +11

    AGAIN? WDYM AGAIN CELIA?

  • @flareinc7413
    @flareinc7413 Месяц назад +2

    After the audio issues in the first two or so episodes, this podcast has become even better and the story has all the time been LIT!!

  • @TheDeLowl
    @TheDeLowl 2 месяца назад +9

    This is, quite possibly, my favourite birthday present to date

  • @FiendishAura438
    @FiendishAura438 2 месяца назад +12

    Surprise surprise after exploring the Magnus institute Alice is “feeling watched”
    It will be interesting to see what comes after though…

  • @kelseymiller7979
    @kelseymiller7979 2 месяца назад +18

    Gordy: I might be out of my mind and being haunted by a dead sailor tattoo but there is no way in hell I'm going to misgender someone!

  • @valeriyav2149
    @valeriyav2149 2 месяца назад +18

    I see Gwen is already power tripping after the promotion 😆

    • @krishadyn5211
      @krishadyn5211 Месяц назад

      Its kind of hilarious. Like, she is horrified by what she's gotten herself into--BUT SHE IS DETERMINED TO CLING TO THAT POWER NO MATTER WHAT. 😄

  • @KendarIgloo
    @KendarIgloo Месяц назад

    “Why comes later” pretty much sums up the entire Magnus Archives/Protocol, I think that’s one thing we can all agree on

  • @localbird
    @localbird Месяц назад +3

    That brief moment of vulnerability in Gwen's harsh exterior was incredible

    • @huntercharleston5812
      @huntercharleston5812 Месяц назад +1

      I really really REALLY want Alice to start bringing Gwen coffees more regularly now, because that little surprised "thankyou" was adorable!!! And it wasn't her fault, she didnt know it was actually for Celia, and Alice must know that! I want them to become friends!! 😢

    • @krishadyn5211
      @krishadyn5211 Месяц назад +1

      @@huntercharleston5812 Its funny, Alice is so demonically hateful but Gwen's moment of genuinely being touched--especially when she was feeling so traumatized--was so strong even Alice didn't feel like being cruel.

  • @classichorrorenthusiast
    @classichorrorenthusiast 2 месяца назад +3

    16:27 “Christ on a peddle bike, what happened to you?” One of my fav lines from this episode lol
    Also I think a few other people online (mostly from Tumblr) might be onto something about the parallels between Martin making Jon tea and Alice letting Gwen have the coffee (even thought it was originally meant for Celia)

  • @jacquelineguevara2773
    @jacquelineguevara2773 2 месяца назад +3

    ALICE, GET BEHIND ME!!!

  • @mcr00kes
    @mcr00kes 2 месяца назад +2

    I would be so excited if this is a prelude to a whole swathe of new Fears coming up. The main character of the case seemed very much invested in "The Deep" - I'd love a whole new twist on the Fear anthology!

  • @felixrivera895
    @felixrivera895 2 месяца назад +9

    Hmm. I would consider this to have elements of the Vast, the End, and even a little forbidden knowledge. Nice and proper eldritch horror.

  • @alycat8413
    @alycat8413 2 месяца назад +7

    WOOO IT'S BACK!! I recently got my license and it takes a little bit more than 20 minutes to get home from my school so I now have a ritual to do every Thursday every noon :]

  • @lostintheinternet8868
    @lostintheinternet8868 2 месяца назад +3

    Eyyyy, so we now have our Tmp Leitners ready!!!

  • @tristonshortt5379
    @tristonshortt5379 2 месяца назад +1

    Knowing all of the entities from TNA makes it really fun to just guess what entities each story is closest to

  • @TheKingsNight-kq3np
    @TheKingsNight-kq3np 2 месяца назад +3

    1:29
    Celia, honey, wake up, you've been sleepwalking again

  • @Bear_BoyBoy
    @Bear_BoyBoy Месяц назад +1

    “It’s nothing”
    *GLITCH SOUND*
    “No is not.”

  • @havisualist
    @havisualist 2 месяца назад +1

    So it seems the fears ARE overlapping based on desire, but some cant agree with each other and fight... we have the buried, the vast, the spiral, maybe even the lonely or dark... but even with their overlap they fight. Also am i the only one who thinks the body in this episode was peter lukas? The mention of the sea and ship tattoo gives his vibe...

  • @BeautifulEarthJa
    @BeautifulEarthJa 2 месяца назад +5

    Yes! Why do I feel so much joy at these posts? Am I empty and lonely inside...?

  • @BillErak
    @BillErak 2 месяца назад +7

    [SPOILERS FOR MAG]
    So, tatoos may be a recurring theme, and they don't see to be tied to an entity, so perhaps they're more like the concept of books. The case itself, beyond the tatoo, seemed tied to The Buried, but the monster in the water gave big Vast vibes--two of the fears that previously were pretty much diametrically opposed. Also 'The Deep' was used a couple of times. May be worth considering it's a new designation.
    I won't even try to theorize on Celia. We don't know enough yet.

    • @tretizzle
      @tretizzle 2 месяца назад +2

      Makes sense since they have been mentioning tattoos, marks, and symbols in every episode so far. Instead of curse books there are cursed Marks/ tats instead

    • @LycanDreams9159
      @LycanDreams9159 2 месяца назад +1

      maybe this tattoo is the new lightner books for this series. after all weren't some of the lighter books bound using human skin.

  • @four5065
    @four5065 2 месяца назад

    So glad this is back! Alice being watched reminds me a lot of a spesific thing. 👁

  • @denisehuston2573
    @denisehuston2573 2 месяца назад +8

    It takes me so much self restraint to not comment ALIIIIIICE!!! on every episode, but I assure you, I say it aloud.

  • @rhyelm
    @rhyelm Месяц назад +1

    "You worked that out" no we didn't. Please don't let it be Colin

  • @pygien
    @pygien 2 месяца назад +10

    MARKED YOU SAY?
    Edit: Eye mention???
    Edit: Lonely possibly buried Statement?
    Edit: WAIT WASNT THERE A STATEMENT ABOUT A TATTOO BEFORE
    Edit: OMG ARE THEY FEEDING THE FEARS IS THAT WHAT THOSE JOBS GWEN IS DOING ARE?!

  • @user-fo5po1hd5j
    @user-fo5po1hd5j 3 дня назад

    Someone commented on a previous episode that the audio glitched whenever a character told a lie, when Celia told Gwen about her leak as the reason she was late there was a second of static. Hmmm?

  • @hamburgerdog25
    @hamburgerdog25 2 месяца назад +2

    Alright I've been thinking. I've been seeing people point out that Protocol handles fears differently than Archives does. What I'm thinking is the key difference between Archives and Protocol is that The Magnus Archives revolves around esoteric nature. I think The Magnus Protocol revolves around human nature. Fr3d1 lets us know when people are lying, both this episode and the other tattoo episode revolves around obssession, that dice episode was mainly about addiction and revenge, just for examples. The esoteric and human inhibition are both key elements to both shows but I think they weigh out differently from one another

  • @cultofthebloodgod429
    @cultofthebloodgod429 2 месяца назад +10

    Alice, I may be paranoid, but I must ask. Why do you keep mentioning food in a weird way?

    • @krishadyn5211
      @krishadyn5211 Месяц назад

      Everything she says is weird. She's also weirdly nosey, insisting everything everyone does must be examined by her. And judged. 👀

  • @inkycorvid3248
    @inkycorvid3248 2 месяца назад +2

    Jack...Jack Barnabas ...
    👀..?

  • @randomdoodlesandye5922
    @randomdoodlesandye5922 19 дней назад

    I swear I've been thinking abt this so much but there are soo many similarities between Jon and Gwen in my mind!!!! Like okay
    They both are so close to The Horrors, and like at this point everyone pretty much is from the team but Gwen is actively meeting externals and getting (unhelpful) information from Lena, witch also reminds me of how jon was getting into The Horrors more and Elias was giving him very unhelpful information specifically in s3!!!!!
    2. The way Gwen goes in and is super tired and exhausted at first and like has that moment of sounding so genuine where she gets the coffee from Alice, like shes behaving the way she feels, but when Celia comes in and theres a Business Situation she completely changes!!! She like goes into business mode with the way she talks and what she says/does ect!! using it as sort of a shield!!! LIKE JON ARCHIVIST SIMS!!!
    3. Sorta mentioned this but yk both talking and "working close" with the big bosses (Lena and Elias)
    and 4. They both ask questions that are like not that important? at a given time!! (i.e. "Can he read???" from gwen and "You dont sound? Russian??" and "What is your real voice" from Jon)
    OH and also being told "Get some sleep you look dreadful" !!
    I feel like there r probably more that i cant think of rn or am missing but gosh I swear I cannot stop noticing that!!!!!

  • @mnndstrs
    @mnndstrs 2 месяца назад +7

    Ink5oul returns!

  • @elenapohl2802
    @elenapohl2802 2 месяца назад +4

    Yaaaaaaay!! New episode!

  • @ChuckProvost
    @ChuckProvost 2 месяца назад +3

    It took me way too long to realize he was saying "Re:" and not throwing in a mention of someone named "Ray." Is that how it's pronounced in the UK, or is he just going back to the Latin pronunciation?

  • @ZatWonGuy
    @ZatWonGuy Месяц назад

    14:27 I am listening respectfully 👂🏻

  • @Threshermaw23
    @Threshermaw23 2 месяца назад +13

    Wake up, babe, new trauma just dropped

  • @Kroniilover
    @Kroniilover 2 месяца назад +1

    Since Bonzo most likely the flesh/corruption, I wonder if Gwen new job are sending hit list for the new avatars of this universe?

    • @lucassevey5989
      @lucassevey5989 2 месяца назад

      Right like they just have a bunch of black ops avatars and monsters

  • @merlinriches
    @merlinriches 2 месяца назад

    ITS HERE!

  • @guessmyname1246
    @guessmyname1246 2 месяца назад

    OH MY GOD EP 11!!!!!!!!

  • @Lizzy_Stories09
    @Lizzy_Stories09 2 месяца назад +3

    YES!!! 🙌 BEAUTIFUL!!! MY DAY JUST GOT A THOUSAND TIMES BETTER!!!!❤❤❤❤

  • @Shmizzybelle
    @Shmizzybelle 2 месяца назад +5

    Oh god we're really in it now aren't we-

  • @CandyLover556
    @CandyLover556 2 месяца назад +1

    12:39 Chester more like SASSter 😂😂

  • @Pikeya
    @Pikeya 2 месяца назад +1

    I'm at a larp camp, listening to this while recovering from heat exhaustion. 😊

  • @edmcsteve2156
    @edmcsteve2156 Месяц назад

    God I love the Vast sooooooooo much

  • @empcat1254
    @empcat1254 10 часов назад

    Ngl, when I first heard the voice for Alice I didn't know what to think, but now I'm so stoked for this pronoun practice opportunity. She's really sweet.

  • @NyxTheia
    @NyxTheia Месяц назад +1

    alice

  • @Rahab369
    @Rahab369 2 месяца назад

    Are we getting an Ocean fear, or are they delving into the water aspect of the dark 👀LET'S GOOOOOO.

  • @rainethegremlin
    @rainethegremlin 2 месяца назад +4

    BEST PART ABOUT THURSDAYS!!!

  • @Creativeman2
    @Creativeman2 2 месяца назад +5

    YES! Protocol me baby! Finaly! :D

  • @chs9999
    @chs9999 2 месяца назад +9

    HOLY SHIT is there gonna be a celia vs alice shipping war time for picking sides

    • @krishadyn5211
      @krishadyn5211 Месяц назад +1

      Yes, everything people loved about Harry Potter, the toxic shipwars, lets bring those back.

  • @lemnon_citrus8711
    @lemnon_citrus8711 2 месяца назад +8

    THE HIATUS IS OVER!!!
    I MISSED YOU GUYS HIIIIII HELLOO!!

  • @chs9999
    @chs9999 2 месяца назад +4

    Yoooooo the triumphant retails of the Thursday spooky spookem time what kind of spooky spook do they have for us today

  • @user-tb4oq8cs5f
    @user-tb4oq8cs5f 2 месяца назад

    The shapes in the water? I'm only half way through this but I said out loud to myself "you do not recognize the bodies in the water"

  • @rue6914
    @rue6914 9 дней назад

    Why is Celia waking up on the motorway giving Left Right Game!

  • @BrainsArt
    @BrainsArt 2 месяца назад +1

    FUCK YEAH HORRORS BENEATH THE WATER LET'S GOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOO!!!!

  • @phantomkowai6621
    @phantomkowai6621 2 месяца назад

    Omg this the first time I have ever been up to date with Magnus anything!!!