Refs TAKE AWAY Game-Winning Goal | FULL BREAKDOWN
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- Опубликовано: 24 мар 2024
- UMass face-off specialist Caleb Hammett, better known on social media as "Drip King," had a potential game-winning goal wiped off the board after an unexpected stick check called by Brown head coach Mike Daly. Even though Hammett's stick passed the check, this breakdown explains why his goal was discounted.
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Is calling a stick check on a face-off guy breaking an unwritten rule of lacrosse?
I feel like faceoff guys get screwed because theirs sticks go through so much punishments considering how many faceoffs they go through ina game/season
@@CerberusRhyno should get rid of the aspect that will make your head illegal then. If you need the bendiness of a head to execute a move then it should probably be removed from the game
Nonsense. Dead ball foul. Goal should have stayed on the board. The penalty was after the goal and the attempted adjustment on the head. Even that was lam because it is a kinda unwritten gentlemen’s rule. The stick is checked at the beginning of the game and if changing sticks it’s a good move having the official check it prior to taking a face off.
@huckfin1598 Why are you hating on faceoffs? They as much of an art form as the rest of the game and heads are getting better now so that they go back easier and are way less likely to be illegal. Examples being the StringKing Mark 2F and the ECD Weapon X.
@@user-if2ve9qc3y bc it’s the most UN-lacrosse part of the game. Back of head, on the ground, rake or pinch, what??? Should just the s ground all scrum - That’s actual lacrosse.
Reminds me of when kids would yank the bottom string tight before handing their stick to the ref😂
I mean that’s what this rule is written to combat. That would be deserving of the penalty but this is a 4th quarter fogo head
The ref would have to have 0 knowledge of our sport/be blind if pulling the bottom string is all you need to do. Any competent ref is going to see how the ball actually rests in a stick
That was my my move.
2 leathers going thru the pocket and always had my hand up near the top when walking off so I could discretely pull down while handing it to the ref if needed.
If you don't know that the other team is going to call for a stick check, then when can you straighten your head before the next face?? Never??
Yes That's true they have to get their head back in shape somehow
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@@lax_nuggets_. unless they called for the stick check to break momentum and it just worked out in their favor this way.
@@hectormunoz6498 they did they are sore losers
Super lame ticky tac bs move from brown. Very good analogy to John Tillman. Get that shit out of lacrosse. “Miss teacher you forgot to check the homework” type of move
Yes, and the lacrosse gods are punishing Tillman this season for his gloves comment.
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Caleb legitimately makes tik toks about his “bottom string tactic” lmao keep your poosey opinion to yourself, or better yet go play baseball
If the ref asks you, then you touch your stick, thats what is illegal. As much as i dislike the cringe of hammet on social media, this still shouldve been a goal and honestly no penalty. It sounds like he adjusted his stick before they asked for the check
IMO calling for the stick check with 8 minutes to go on the FOGO is a bush call. Having said that, the penalty is correctly assessed. You can't adjust the stick after the ref asks for the stick to check it. It is clear in the rules.
Correct me if i am wrong because I couldn’t see the exact moment, but it appears that the adjustment was made before the ref asked for the stick
@@henrymeade2325 yes. He posted a video a couple of days later about that happening.
My question is whether he yanked on the head after the refs asked for the stick due to the stick check request or not. If they asked for the stick and then he yanked on it, then it's a good call. If it was because he was messing with the head before the stick check was asked for, that is really tough. FOGOs fix the head before a faceoff all the time for obvious reasons.
Vid not clear on if he touch the stick AFTER the ref asked for it. A player can touch/mess with his stick all he wants before the ref asks for the check... all he wants.
the FO guy says that he was messing with it before the ref said anything
The rule (4.11) itself is clear.... "n. When a player who scored a goal adjusts the crosse after an official asks to inspect it, provided play has not restarted since the goal was scored." and "o. When a player pulls the strings on the crosse after scoring a goal and before the official has requested that player’s crosse for inspection." If he adjusted the plastic and he was finished with that before it was requested for inspection, he's allowed to do that. Pulling on the strings is another thing entirely.
@@sbennett372 Caleb was making the "I stretched the sidewalls out" motion. So, I think the refs called him for pulling the strings to adjust the depth of the pocket when Caleb tried to say that he was just stretching the plastic out to get ready for the next faceoff. If that continues to be a rule that is called that way, it seems like an easy way to get a one minute non-releasable penalty and a FOGO goal wiped out. A coach just needs to see the FOGO stretch his head out and then call for a stick check. Even if it's legal it's a penalty and a wiped out goal...
If I were umass I would have asked for a stick check after each of the brown goals
The 10th Brown goal their player appears to land in the goal mouth on his own accord… 😅
Disagree there. If he was able to go straight down, he lands outside the goal mouth. His arm lands on the goal mouth because the UMass defenseman dives under him (nothing dirty, was just trying to avoid contact after the slide ended up being late), clips the Brown player's shoulder, causing him to rotate towards the goal mout.
Im a Brown Alum, I got no idea
Unless the rules have changed since I played, there is no way they can take that point away if the penalty occurred after the goal.
This has always been the rule. If the player who scored the goal is called for a stick check immediately following the goal and the stick is found to be illegal, the goal is taken away. It's definitely debatable whether he knew the stick was being asked for or not, but assuming he was pulling on it after the stick check was called for, this would be the correct procedure.
@@tommykern2336 the stick was deemed legal by the refs.
Rule 4, sections 11.n and 11.o tell us to disallow the goal:
n. When a player who scored a goal adjusts the crosse after an official asks to inspect it, provided play has not restarted since the goal was scored.
o. When a player pulls the strings on the crosse after scoring a goal and before the official has requested that player’s crosse for inspection.
I'm not sure which they are citing, but in both cases, it doesnt matter that the inspection occurred after the goal. These rules literally say "disallow that goal anyway".
@@NoToBigBro Which doesn't matter if it was deemed he adjusted the stick after being asked for the stick as part of a stick check immediately after the goal was scored.
Is have to give my pocket a good hit and a tug before handing it over on a few sticks.
If he was fixing it before they asked for it it should not have been called. Since face off guys almost never expect to be stick checked, him touching it before they check it would make complete sense and it should not affect how the refs check the stick at all. Goal should have stayed.
It depends on how he was fixing it. There is a timing issue. If you only adjust the plastic, then you can do that before the stick is asked for. If you are adjusting the strings, it does not matter if you adjust them before the stick has been asked for. It is disallowed anyway. See rules 4.11.n and 4.11.o
Calling a stick check on a fogo goal 8 minutes left in the game is soft
...but they won though...
This will turn the game into every fogo goal will resulting in a stick check. If you can take away a goal coach’s will even tho it’s a scummy move but what do you expect from a coach that’s 0 and 6 with his job on the line.
Would seem to me that touching the head of the stick before a stick check is called should be fine, but after should be illegal. If he's adjusting the head like he does before every face off, and no check has been called for, then everything is on the up and up. Otherwise, there should be no adjusting of the stick at any time by any player, regardless of position, because a check could possibly be called.
when i say skilled i mean ball handling shooting faceoff takes a lot of skill just different kind of skill before try to say see no skill
Couldn't help but notice the snide remarks about John Tillman calling a stick check against Princeton's FOGO. Maryland had been dominating face offs when Princeton went to a backup FOGO. It was his first time in the game so the theory of his net sagging due to abuse beforehand isn't true. The guy got the faceoff and bolted through the entire Maryland defense with his stick getting hit several times. He went straight to the goal without passing and scored. The Maryland defensemen told Tillman that as hard as his stick was hit it should have come loose. The stick was illegal off the bench and Princeton had to know it. They are not stupid!
The other incident known as Glove gate occurred when Tillman asked the ref during the Ohio State game, why is the other team allowed to wear different color gloves and we have to have matching gloves? It's against the rules so they called a penalty. One reason is when an opposing player grabs a jersey, and the gloves are the same color as the jersey it's hard to tell if it was an actual hold. The other reason is during a faceoff if a FOGO is wearing white gloves it's hard to see a false start because the ball is the same color! The insinuation that Tillman somehow cheated or was unethical is ridiculous and born out of Jealousy. Lacrosse Net should be embarrassed in not getting Maryland's side of the story before besmirching a great coach's reputation!
Holy glazing 💀
If you think the goal mouth should be banned
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No
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The guy has a big pocket and pulled the bottom strings… pretty sure he has videos about it aka self snitched to an Ivy League team…
all you hating on faceoff bet never took one never one won never even attempted to try one n realize how hard exhausting and brutal it is. Faceoff is what differs us from most other spots and has been calling card in the sport. It’s not simply just bending stick there is alot of technique involved a lot. Also very tiring and physical. Plus that’s a string king mark 2f one or two pulls b that baby goes right back to legal. You faceoff haters just stop playing and watching cause clearly you know nothing. While it also gives kids who arnt fast very skilled or whatever a chance to be good n play n go to college for just as another aspect of why should always keep faceoffs. If can’t win faceoff then maby practice harder playing good d or goalie to stop ball more n stop ur crying .
Yo DripKing needs to collab with those NFL script guys for this one!.
HORRIBLE DEFENSE FUNDAMENTALS!!!
0:16 Not related to the video topic, but this might be the WORST defense ever. Doubling the ball was beyond bad.
0:32 Oops, even WORSE defese. Yo, bro, gotta stop the ball carrier. Make him pass. Can't just let him run in and score.
That is right here such an 0-6 coach move
I think it's funny that everyone is crying in the comments. If the tables were turned, and you were on the team that benefited from the call, you would be silent. Plus...there were 8 minutes left in the game and UMass couldn't even score a goal after. Get real.
In the UK when a stick check is called we have to drop our stick to ensure no interference.
Coach is hired to win.
Fuck unwritten rules..
It’s Michelle Daly now
The drip king
It's unpopular take, but FO guys know this and should bring multiple sticks and check them while on the sideline. Accountability is everything, and as soon as u start blaming others for your personal short coming the more laziness creeps into your life. That being said, it's OK to put that in the back of your mind to motivate u the next time u play
Finally...someone who makes sense in this comment section.
They made the correct call.
They were 0-6 for a reason. Shady move by a sleezeball head coach to get a win on their record.
This wouldn't happen if you stuck to wooden sticks !! 🤔
"it was like technically a flag"
So a flag then.
DRIPKING
This happened to my son's high school team last year. They were up by a goal late in the game and the opposing coach called for a stick check on the face off guy. His stick was illegal and they scored the tying goal. Luckily my son's team killed the rest of the penalty in the first overtime and scored in the 2nd overtime to win the game. Karma? ruclips.net/video/umbV2JToSaM/видео.html
Number 17 on UMass is my mentor
bad call. no question.
Dirty play Daily
Call was made with 8 mins left in the 4th. If you can’t score a goal in the shot clock era within that timeframe, that’s not on the refs.
Get out of here with this clickbait garbage.
I agree but lacrosse is all about momentum. That call 100% changed the trajectory of the game but who would have won is impossible to say.
@@BDEntertainment423 that’s soft. If you can’t overcome a call with 8 minutes left, you don’t deserve to win.
Finally, someone in this comment section with a fkn brain. Thank you!!
@@BDEntertainment423go play baseball or volleyball you soft baby
Terrible call by the refs for adjusting his stick
it's a black and white call and not up to interpretation. It was a good call, but no doubt they hated having to make it. They were left with no choice
“Player forces refs to remove his goal because he doesn’t know the rules regarding stick checks”
Fixed the title for you.
Someone didn't watch the video and wants to give a video title 😂
@@lax_nuggets_. bruh. That’s exactly the conclusion of the video. Your boy grabbed the head of his stick after being told it was a stick check. Which is a personal foul despite the narrator’s “surely it’s a conduct foul” line.
@@sour37I believe Dripking said that they asked for his stick while he was bending it back, which is more of a grey area cause he wasn’t aware that his stick was being checked. Either way, not cool by the Brown hc. I think they should maybe change the rule to checking FOGO sticks at the beginning of each quarter or something like that.
Amen
@@sour37 bro every fogo and faceoff guy does it should all faceoffs be banned then if they do it to make their head legal again after the stress it goes through?
So robbed, and thats so not cool of the other coach to call a stick check in the first place
For all you young laxers….. DRIPKING IS NOT COOL. He’s actually an embarrassment to lacrosse. Rather than get in the lab or fix his illegal stick he’d much prefer to look cool on tik tok. DONT LET HIM BE YOUR IDOL OR ROLE MODEL
Stay mad
Face off is so dumb and like CrossFit: it’s impressive but no one cares
Need to get rid of it entirely. If the act of facing off makes your stick illegal we need to change the mechanics of the face off. Clearly using the bending of the head to execute a face off means it’s an INHERENTLY flawed aspect of the game
Which Rabil are you, Mike or Paul?
@@WintersSoldier so only Paul rabil can have an opinion? You get down on your knees every night for the almighty rabil
Or Scott Marr?
Faceoffs one of the best parts of the game imo, it’s the faceoff and transition play that makes lacrosse such a unique and fun sport