I’m writing a cookbook inspired by the worlds oldest recipes written in Mesopotamia 4,000 years ago. If you go to www.tableofgods.com/yt you can get three of these ancient recipes 😊
It's amazing. You look like the ancient sculptures brought to life. The great Kings of Assyria when alive must have resembled man like yourself. It's great that a son of Assyria, has developed a RUclips page to properly educate people about the history of the great Assyrian people.
@@tableofgods You are welcome. It's simply the truth. How many nations, a people can say like the Assyrian people, that they have an unbroken history, connection to their ancestors all the way to the Bronze Age days of Sumerians, Akkadians, and Elamites. Also, it would be one thing to say such but bear little resemblance to them. However, it's in your face, the eyes, the cheekbones, the pattern of hair and beard growth, resembles the representations they left behind from so long ago. That's phenotypical, and the phenotype stems from genetics. You just ARE a true son of Assyria. That is fascinating to an amateur historian like myself. Too many history books act like because the alliance defeated the Assyrian Empire's government, that the people disappeared. Nope! Here you are still, persisting through the centuries and then 2600+ years to today. The Equivalent would be if a modern people could trace their history all the way back to the Indus Civilization, with the language and oral traditions intact. Here's something legit and interesting as well. Usually with ancient monuments, modern restoration efforts feel "fake" because it's not the sane people as the ancients using their hands to do the task. However, in the Assyrians case, restoring the damage those terrorists did would simply be the Assyrian people hands restoring what Assyrian people of another time's hands constructed in the first place.
I wish the Iraqi government protects the noble natives instead of persecuting them for being Christian; and I wish it cares for the touristic native pre-ancient areas for peoples to visit and enjoy these magnificent historic places where the first civilization in the world was born and the first inventions in the world were created.
I'm a Middle Eastern archeology teacher at the Ecole du Louvre in Paris, I absolutely loved your video, and I think I will integrate it into the bibliography of my students.
I am very curious about the conservation status of the ancient sites. The past century has not been very friendly to bronze and iron age Mesopotamia and Persia.
As a Romanian i love so much the Assyrian Civilization! Hopefully one day i will get to see those cities live myself and meet descendants from one of the greatest Empire ever
I think It's awesome that the great people, the Assyrians are still extant. Justly proud in my opinion, I've been a long time admirer of the great realm especially of the Early Iron Age period, when the Assyrian Empire was the most powerful, most advanced country in the world. People talk of Babylon, yes, it was a great realm, but actually, Assyria was just as great if not greater, especially, when Egypt was taken. The first great Library in the world was that of Assurbanipal. Imagine the knowledge in it. Surely things not known now, like the Indus Civilization's true name, culture, and language. Since they ruled over the Phoenicians and thus knew about the Eastern Mefiterranean, perhaps the Minoans and their true name, culture, and language. In his time, 650 B.C., or so, the Assyrian Empire was both the greatest military power, and advanced Civilization.
No one can touch Mesopotamia Iraq when it comes to history, innovation and resiliency. Proud of my Assyrian brothers preserving the real culture and language of Iraq.
It's Mesopotamia or Assyria, because the term iraq was forced later by the barbaric occupiers (Arabs) that have been persecuting Natives (Assyrians) to this day. Assyria possesses noble heritage and famous for its pioneers, inventors, engineers, astronomers, world's first writers, first artists, first written law- makers, intelligent rulers, Assyrians built the world's first cities and first library, and so on and so forth. Arabs originated from uncivilized bedouin tribes from the desert who lived from animal husbandry and looting caravans. Arabs invented nothing, their kidnapped enslaved scholars (foreigners) were forced to translate works from other cultures for them. Arabs offer the world nothing but an archaic belief system (namely islam) that spreads violence, uncontrollable (animal-like) breeding, t-e-r-r-o-r-i-s-m, backwardedness, and destruction.
@HistorywithCy Cy, what's up cuz!?!? Look at us watching all the same videos. You're still my favorite channel after all these years. You know I love you, dude. This video is fantastic. This gentleman seems to be very knowledgeable and dedicated and he speaks clearly and puts in a lot of hard work in his videos. This one is phenomenal. ✌️
Thanks you for this beautiful, informative documentary on the Assyrian major cities and capitals. I am an Assyrian from Iran and really appreciate your effort to publicize and promote Assyrian heritage and culture to the world.
God bless you I can’t wait to go there every Assyrian should go there to have strong feelings to Assyria god bless Assyria we all should pray for Assyria maybe one day if the lord welling will have our nation back.
Monsieur 170, l'Assyrie fait partie de l'histoire, donc dire qu'un jour vous la récupérerai n'est que pure illusion. Elle est déjà dans les livres d'histoire, l'apprendre c'est déjà bien, mais dire que demain l'Assyrie va faire surface, je ne le crois pas. Il faut vivre dans le monde d'aujourd'hui sans oublier ce que nous sommes. Combien de peuples sont passés par là ? Nous avons tous été modelé par une seule et même main. Et remonter aussi loin dans ses origines n'est pas à mon avis possible, ce sont des peuples très anciens qui ont disparus et remplacé par d'autres peuples tout naturellement ainsi va l'humanité. Le Saint Coran dit ainsi soit-il. Et l'Éternel est maître de tout l'univers.
WOW, I am blown away. This was fascinating!! This was created with lots of passion. Refreshing and inspiring. This was jam packed full of incredible history❤. Emotions on a roller coaster watching this. I love the Epic of Gilgamesh! Had to read it when I was middle school MOONS ago and in college. Your painted metrics were astonishing. My better half 😅 is from Najaf.
Thank you for this interesting video. I only stumbled over it today. Yes you can be proud as Mesopotamia was indeed the cradle of civilisation. City states while there were still mammouths walking around in Siberia. I was always fascinated with Mesopotamia and whenever I happen to fly over the region i look down on Euphrat and Tigris seeing the moonlight reflected in the water..There is something magical about this place
Great videos Arim. You are so well researched and knowledgeable, I've not seen anything like this from other Iraq travelers. This is very impressive! You're absolutely right, more people should know about Assyria and Mesopotamia. I hope to visit Iraq one day. Keep up the great work - you're a credit to your ancestors!
Thank you so much for this video. It’s so terrific to be able seeing how those sites look like now thanks to you, brilliant young man. Thank you so much for sharing this with us. I have known the Assyrian people in my native Ukraine. They lived in my home town Poltava, called themselves the Assyrians. My childhood friend had married the Assyrian man. I have been the witness (a bride maid) at the wedding and met the whole family. Very nice beautiful people. They looked a little bit different then we do.
What a pleasure to find your channel. The RUclips suggestion algorithm said watchers of History With Cy, and also Tasting History With Max Miller also enjoyed your channel. That's me. I'm more obsessed with Mesopotamia than The B52s 🎶 🎵 😊 The cookbook looks very good. Subscribed. 👍
You are so smart. God is using you thru your cook book to teach us about a most important time in the beginning of human history. God Bless you! And bring you favor abundantly.
You're so cool! This is incredible! I've only ever heard of these places in documentaries.. Glad you took that one stone from Ashur. Who knows what will happen in the unforgiving future.
You laying on the ground is my dream goal! If I were there I’d do the same! I hope some day it will be possible for me to go there myself. In the meantime, I so greatly appreciate your video. Thank you!
I think Ninova province have to be re-established as Republic of Assyria as an independent state which I believe includes all these capitals. That would be wonderful.
Assyria the begining of State, Humanity, Medicine, Style, Heroism, Knowledge of GOD Ashur, Ninurta, Sin, Anu, Nabu, Shamash, Ishtar, Anu, Shlemanu, LOVE Assyria
The assyrians and chaldeans must rise up If they want to be remembered in time 🕰️ someone strong a leader has to emerge to take on Iraq and get back the ancient Cities ! I hear many assyrians talk with power about there country but can’t even visit Very sad what the Muslims did
Hele interesante video 👏🏻 Ik ben zelf in 2021 in Irak geweest, maar niet noordelijker dan Samarra. Ik wil nog terug voor de 4 steden die je beschrijft. Woon je toevallig in de buurt van Den Haag?
I wish the Iraqi government protects the noble Natives, namely the Assyrians, instead of persecuting them for being Christian and Non-arab; and I wish it cares for the touristic Native pre-ancient areas for peoples to visit and enjoy these magnificent historic places where the First Civilization in the world was born and the first inventions in the world were created. It seems that in every Arab-speaking country destroys historical sites, how uncivilized, ignorant, and hateful..
That’s why they try & destroy & burn everything. But you can research this huge volume of information & check behind him with resources on internet. The Bible has some of this in it in the book of Jonah in Old Testament.
It’s called IRAQ 🇮🇶 We don’t need some one coming from USA with Anatolian background Tell us Iraqi about our country 5000 years of multiculturalism in our land So respect the country you visited at least
900 acres / 640 acres, is a square mile. So, that is this size : 1.40625 square miles. With a wall, over 100 feet high, and could accomodate, 3 chariots, side by side on the top. ...better stop now.
I’m writing a cookbook inspired by the worlds oldest recipes written in Mesopotamia 4,000 years ago. If you go to www.tableofgods.com/yt you can get three of these ancient recipes 😊
It's amazing. You look like the ancient sculptures brought to life. The great Kings of Assyria when alive must have resembled man like yourself. It's great that a son of Assyria, has developed a RUclips page to properly educate people about the history of the great Assyrian people.
@@jonathancummings6400 thank you for your kind words 🙏
@@tableofgods You are welcome. It's simply the truth. How many nations, a people can say like the Assyrian people, that they have an unbroken history, connection to their ancestors all the way to the Bronze Age days of Sumerians, Akkadians, and Elamites. Also, it would be one thing to say such but bear little resemblance to them. However, it's in your face, the eyes, the cheekbones, the pattern of hair and beard growth, resembles the representations they left behind from so long ago. That's phenotypical, and the phenotype stems from genetics. You just ARE a true son of Assyria. That is fascinating to an amateur historian like myself. Too many history books act like because the alliance defeated the Assyrian Empire's government, that the people disappeared. Nope! Here you are still, persisting through the centuries and then 2600+ years to today. The Equivalent would be if a modern people could trace their history all the way back to the Indus Civilization, with the language and oral traditions intact. Here's something legit and interesting as well. Usually with ancient monuments, modern restoration efforts feel "fake" because it's not the sane people as the ancients using their hands to do the task. However, in the Assyrians case, restoring the damage those terrorists did would simply be the Assyrian people hands restoring what Assyrian people of another time's hands constructed in the first place.
Sumeria was the first empire not Assyria
I wish the Iraqi government protects the noble natives instead of persecuting them for being Christian; and I wish it cares for the touristic native pre-ancient areas for peoples to visit and enjoy these magnificent historic places where the first civilization in the world was born and the first inventions in the world were created.
I'm a Middle Eastern archeology teacher at the Ecole du Louvre in Paris, I absolutely loved your video, and I think I will integrate it into the bibliography of my students.
That would be an honor. I'm glad you enjoyed the video 😊
I am very curious about the conservation status of the ancient sites. The past century has not been very friendly to bronze and iron age Mesopotamia and Persia.
As a Romanian i love so much the Assyrian Civilization! Hopefully one day i will get to see those cities live myself and meet descendants from one of the greatest Empire ever
You are welcome Romanian brother! I'm an Assyrian who watched that old Vlad Tepes movie in Roman a million times haha
Proud to be Assyrian ❤️
Me too, i am you cousin the chaldean.
I think It's awesome that the great people, the Assyrians are still extant. Justly proud in my opinion, I've been a long time admirer of the great realm especially of the Early Iron Age period, when the Assyrian Empire was the most powerful, most advanced country in the world. People talk of Babylon, yes, it was a great realm, but actually, Assyria was just as great if not greater, especially, when Egypt was taken. The first great Library in the world was that of Assurbanipal. Imagine the knowledge in it. Surely things not known now, like the Indus Civilization's true name, culture, and language. Since they ruled over the Phoenicians and thus knew about the Eastern Mefiterranean, perhaps the Minoans and their true name, culture, and language. In his time, 650 B.C., or so, the Assyrian Empire was both the greatest military power, and advanced Civilization.
@@thevisitor7436There are no Chaldeans, there are Assyrians.
😳👈
hahaH you are nestorian christian not the assyrains
Proud to be Assyrian ❤️💙🤍
My heart breaks when I see the footage of the remnants of antiquity being destroyed... :( :( :(
No one can touch Mesopotamia Iraq when it comes to history, innovation and resiliency. Proud of my Assyrian brothers preserving the real culture and language of Iraq.
this is not Iraq. Iraq did not exist until a century ago.
@@roses.4684 HAHAHAAHAHAHA :D
@@roses.4684 So Mesopotamia is your mother 😂 Assyrian Babylonian Akkadian and Sumerian civilization in Iraq
It's Mesopotamia or Assyria, because the term iraq was forced later by the barbaric occupiers (Arabs) that have been persecuting Natives (Assyrians) to this day.
Assyria possesses noble heritage and famous for its pioneers, inventors, engineers, astronomers, world's first writers, first artists, first written law- makers, intelligent rulers, Assyrians built the world's first cities and first library, and so on and so forth.
Arabs originated from uncivilized bedouin tribes from the desert who lived from animal husbandry and looting caravans.
Arabs invented nothing, their kidnapped enslaved scholars (foreigners) were forced to translate works from other cultures for them.
Arabs offer the world nothing but an archaic belief system (namely islam) that spreads violence, uncontrollable (animal-like) breeding, t-e-r-r-o-r-i-s-m, backwardedness, and destruction.
This is so awesome!!!!!! Khinnis is such a beautiful place...and those kabobs look fantastic!
Eating kabobs on the cliffs at Khinnis is on my to-do next time I visit!
@HistorywithCy Cy, what's up cuz!?!? Look at us watching all the same videos. You're still my favorite channel after all these years. You know I love you, dude. This video is fantastic. This gentleman seems to be very knowledgeable and dedicated and he speaks clearly and puts in a lot of hard work in his videos. This one is phenomenal. ✌️
I'm very proud of you such a talented person showing and expelling to the world our grate land of Mesopotamia God bless you and keep it up
Thank you 🙏🏻
Thanks you for this beautiful, informative documentary on the Assyrian major cities and capitals. I am an Assyrian from Iran and really appreciate your effort to publicize and promote Assyrian heritage and culture to the world.
Thank you, I'm glad you liked it :)
I am absolutely in awe at how well you made this video. I will be sharing this video with all my Assyrians.
Love from Chicago ❤
Thank you! I'm glad you enjoyed it :)
God bless you I can’t wait to go there every Assyrian should go there to have strong feelings to Assyria god bless Assyria we all should pray for Assyria maybe one day if the lord welling will have our nation back.
АМИНЬ❤❤
Not today, I wouldnt go there. Only when president Trump takes over.
Monsieur 170, l'Assyrie fait partie de l'histoire, donc dire qu'un jour vous la récupérerai n'est que pure illusion. Elle est déjà dans les livres d'histoire, l'apprendre c'est déjà bien, mais dire que demain l'Assyrie va faire surface, je ne le crois pas. Il faut vivre dans le monde d'aujourd'hui sans oublier ce que nous sommes. Combien de peuples sont passés par là ? Nous avons tous été modelé par une seule et même main. Et remonter aussi loin dans ses origines n'est pas à mon avis possible, ce sont des peuples très anciens qui ont disparus et remplacé par d'autres peuples tout naturellement ainsi va l'humanité. Le Saint Coran dit ainsi soit-il. Et l'Éternel est maître de tout l'univers.
@@batshivamoosha7940😅
You made the best video on RUclips explaining the history of these ancient Assyrian sites professionally!
Thank you!
well done great video love to see theses sites with my own eyes touch the earth that our ancestors walked on! proud of being Assyrian .1 day 1day
Thank you!
It's mind-blowing to see places only heard in books. I like your narrative as an explorer and traveler.
I felt the same seeing them irl. I’m planning to visit more sites from ancient Mesopotamia in the near future :)
مع الاسف لم نعش مع اجدادنا الاشورين امنيتي ان ياخذني الزمن الى الماضي للعيش مع هؤلاء الابطال
This is one of the greatest videos I have ever watched. From one Assyrian to another, 👏👏👏 Excellent!
@@flipjupiter1 thank you! 🙏🏼
Ashur Castle is close to my house and I have a lot of pictures of it
God bless you all my Assyrian.. الرب يحفظكم جميعا ً شعبي الأشوري
I am a proud Assyrian, long life Ashur
WOW, I am blown away. This was fascinating!! This was created with lots of passion. Refreshing and inspiring. This was jam packed full of incredible history❤. Emotions on a roller coaster watching this. I love the Epic of Gilgamesh! Had to read it when I was middle school MOONS ago and in college. Your painted metrics were astonishing. My better half 😅 is from Najaf.
Haha, thank you, appreciate it. I'm working on making an episode about the Epic of Gilgamesh. Stay tuned 😀
Thank you for this interesting video. I only stumbled over it today. Yes you can be proud as Mesopotamia was indeed the cradle of civilisation. City states while there were still mammouths walking around in Siberia. I was always fascinated with Mesopotamia and whenever I happen to fly over the region i look down on Euphrat and Tigris seeing the moonlight reflected in the water..There is something magical about this place
Great videos Arim. You are so well researched and knowledgeable, I've not seen anything like this from other Iraq travelers. This is very impressive! You're absolutely right, more people should know about Assyria and Mesopotamia. I hope to visit Iraq one day. Keep up the great work - you're a credit to your ancestors!
Thank you! 🙏
The multi-sensory approach is an intriguing aspect of your production here. Keep tying it into the food throughout your presentation. That's great.
Thank you so much for this video. It’s so terrific to be able seeing how those sites look like now thanks to you, brilliant young man. Thank you so much for sharing this with us. I have known the Assyrian people in my native Ukraine. They lived in my home town Poltava, called themselves the Assyrians. My childhood friend had married the Assyrian man. I have been the witness (a bride maid) at the wedding and met the whole family. Very nice beautiful people. They looked a little bit different then we do.
Tehe Hawro! Keep up the good work
Amazing assyrian great work
What a pleasure to find your channel. The RUclips suggestion algorithm said watchers of History With Cy, and also Tasting History With Max Miller also enjoyed your channel. That's me.
I'm more obsessed with Mesopotamia than The B52s 🎶 🎵 😊
The cookbook looks very good.
Subscribed. 👍
Haha, thank you! I hope I'll make it worthwhile! :)
Thank you for this amazing video! I’m definitely going to show this to my children to learn more about our history .
Thank you, I'm glad you enjoyed it :)
Thanks for the wonderful video. I'd love to see Nineveh 👍
Thank you :) Nineveh is worth a visit!
Your graphics are outstanding!
Thank you :)
Thank God, I found this channel. Keep up the great work.
Thank you!
Great documentary to watch, totally not boring, very clean and straight forward that anybody can follow. Keep up the good work!
Thank you for your feedback 🙏🏻
This is great work, man! Liked and subbed!
Thank you for the informative and well made video. Hope your channel grows successfully. Looking forward to future content.
Thank you for your kind words 🙏
This video is amazing! Very informative and interesting! Great job 👏
Thank you! :)
Tack för denna spännande och högst intressanta dokumentär!
Kul att du gillade den :)
Love this channel. It's very nostalgic.
Thank you :)
Thank you 🙏
You’re welcome!
Good bless you khon love your work ❤
your videos are epic - thank you
Thank you!
Bro I am so proud off your knowledge ❤
My head is exploding with information. This was fascinating. Very well done.
Thank you
Barukh KhaShem, Alaha d'Ashuraye o Hudaye Khaya Ekhad!
Ashur Betkhaya, Akh wartota Hudeta, Bkhela d'Alahan Khaya Yahwe/KhaShem, B'Ezrat KhaShem!
You are so smart. God is using you thru your cook book to teach us about a most important time in the beginning of human history. God Bless you! And bring you favor abundantly.
@@christieferrell2611 thank you so much for your kind words 🙏
Thank you for sharing.
You're welcome :)
All the cities are great. Thanx so much
It's my dream to make this trip! Ever thought about a Bronze Age travel agency? ;D
Haha, that's actually a great idea!
You're so cool! This is incredible! I've only ever heard of these places in documentaries.. Glad you took that one stone from Ashur. Who knows what will happen in the unforgiving future.
I absolutely must see these brilliant sites.
Such an amazing video👏🏼 keep it up.
wow sick :D
cant wait for more like this!!!!!
Great documentary thank you
Great video.
Thanx
Beautiful work
Thank you
Proud to be Assyrian
Amazing videos! New sub, I’m super impressed with u
@@erinmboehm thank you!
Any historian who cares about the truth, thanks you for sharing your experiences with us.
God bless Assyria, good job. Thank you
Thank you
You laying on the ground is my dream goal! If I were there I’d do the same!
I hope some day it will be possible for me to go there myself. In the meantime, I so greatly appreciate your video. Thank you!
Thank you, I hope you get the chance to visit Ashur in the future.
Thank you so much!
Amazing content!
02:35 haha 🥁 😂.
Nice videos 🎉
This was an excellent presentation!
Thank you sir!
Thank you for putting Assyria on the map for conversation. My best friend is Assyrian. We have a large Assyrian population in Sydney Australia.
THEY ARE ALL OVER THE WORLD. AUSTRALIA IS NOT THE ONLY PLACE.
Thank you so much
City of Calhu after it was rebuilt was called Numroud
I think Ninova province have to be re-established as Republic of Assyria as an independent state which I believe includes all these capitals. That would be wonderful.
My brother, you are a great storm.
Haha
Sick video brother 🤩
Thank you 😃
Great video.
Thank you :)
Assyria the begining of State, Humanity, Medicine, Style, Heroism, Knowledge of GOD Ashur, Ninurta, Sin, Anu, Nabu, Shamash, Ishtar, Anu, Shlemanu, LOVE Assyria
The assyrians and chaldeans must rise up
If they want to be remembered in time 🕰️ someone strong a leader has to emerge to take on Iraq and get back the ancient Cities !
I hear many assyrians talk with power about there country but can’t even visit
Very sad what the Muslims did
I cannot believe that the Assyrians today are descendants of these great people. People who gave everything to this world.
Proud Assyrian here
Wow what a cool video, btw are you an Assyrian?
Thank you, yes I am.
In which province of Iraq are those old cities located?
Ist it Mosul?
I loved your work btw
It's just perfect
Thanks a lot
Thank you! All capitals except for Ashur are near Mosul (Nineveh is basically Mosul).
Assyria the cradle of civilization will rise again
I love to say “Sennacherib”
Hele interesante video 👏🏻
Ik ben zelf in 2021 in Irak geweest, maar niet noordelijker dan Samarra. Ik wil nog terug voor de 4 steden die je beschrijft.
Woon je toevallig in de buurt van Den Haag?
I loved the lamb kabobs when I was in the Middle East. I can't find anything similar in the United States.
Neither can I in Sweden where I'm based 😭
@@tableofgods There’s a lot of Iraqi restaurants in Sweden
@@sumerianking4942 Have to try them :)
❤ My Assyria!
I wish the Iraqi government protects the noble Natives, namely the Assyrians, instead of persecuting them for being Christian and Non-arab; and I wish it cares for the touristic Native pre-ancient areas for peoples to visit and enjoy these magnificent historic places where the First Civilization in the world was born and the first inventions in the world were created.
It seems that in every Arab-speaking country destroys historical sites, how uncivilized, ignorant, and hateful..
We are Assyrians, the world should know about us and our history, because human history began with us.
Why did you only spend there 1 hour ?
Assyria was not the first empire in history. It was the Akkadian, of what we know today.
Free Assyria
👏👏👏❤️
I wish that there were historical sources to back up your statements.🤔
That’s why they try & destroy & burn everything. But you can research this huge volume of information & check behind him with resources on internet. The Bible has some of this in it in the book of Jonah in Old Testament.
👍🏻
It’s called IRAQ 🇮🇶
We don’t need some one coming from USA with Anatolian background
Tell us Iraqi about our country
5000 years of multiculturalism in our land
So respect the country you visited at least
Are you Assyrian?
Yes
Heading: exploring history's first empire(assyrian empire)
Akkadian empire : 😒🥱
Not all scholars agree on that :)
The first Empire in history is Kashgar of west central China. ~5400 to 3520BC.
Eww no bother 😂
beautiful place,make 2 shorter vids
900 acres / 640 acres, is a square mile. So, that is this size : 1.40625 square miles. With a wall, over 100 feet high, and could accomodate, 3 chariots, side by side on the top. ...better stop now.
شـتان ما بـيـن الـزقـورتين !!!! الكلـدانية ، وهـذا التل
كلدانية هي كنيسة فقط وليست قومية تابعين للحضارة والأمة الأشورية.
Get back to your home it needs you and all Assyrians, Chaldeans and others
The presenter sounds like he's speaking Farsi, the empire that took down Assyria.
Splendid descreibt What the World actually rebuilden Must instead allowing barbarian to destroy pur Rich civilisation📽
At that time those places were not Turkish