Really grown up conversation here. But be careful - finance being the number one reason for marriage breakdown is not actually related to pay disparity. The technical cause is "attitude to finance" or "financial incompatibility". Most relationships become distressed due to debt and attitudes to debt (note this is likely to affect couples right across the salary bands).
I been with my Mrs 15 years. We bought a house together before getting married. We both work full time, we’ve always split everything 50/50. We have a joint account and that’s what we pay all our household bills from. Both our salaries go into our personal accounts. Only time I’ve ever paid more than my wife is when she wasn’t being paid during the end of maternity leave. We both earn a similar salary but there’s been times where she earned more, it was still always 50/50 neither of us have ever paid the majority of bills! We have never had an issue re money.
Listened to one clip yesterday and I’m glad to find another segment today. Only a few minutes in but really enjoying the openness, the wisdom and life experience being shared. Great convo. Thanks for sharing 👏🏽👏🏽👏🏽
These roles that you speak of are strictly based on socialisation. Necessity will make you adapt to a different role. Don’t get stressed over fitting into an imaginary box
There are good women out there far and few between same can be said for meaningful men. I’m nearly 15 years into my bid 😅. Deffo plenty ups and downs but she’s a real one. Loads of 💎 in this 🙏🏾🙏🏾
10:35 I'm not a woman, but I've found this to be a myth. Those are requirements from women on social media podcasts/shows. In REAL LIFE, women aren't that hell-bent. They prefer a guy to be taller & make more, but they don't specify 6 feet & 6 figures. And I've never heard one list "six pack" as something they look for.
I’m a man’s man all day long. I come from a 2 parent home where I have seen my dad pay the big bills. Whilst it might be a cultural thing, these finance conversations are getting dangerous. In 2024, men and women need each other, we need each others salaries. Women fought for the right to work, if she’s earning well, you better be damn sure that she’s contributing to the household in some shape or form. Whether it be council tax, food shop, phone bill, internet, water, car finance etc etc. If the husband was to lose his job for a considerable time, what would happen? And vice versa!! I’m not advocating bum status but what’s right for the household always has to be the bigger picture.
This 100k talk is jarring especially when it is coming from people I honestly don’t think make that. When single people or childless people talk on those who have such things it’s baffling to me. I could only take marriage advice from someone who has or is married, shout out to the young brother.
Childless people have parents, grandparents, cousins, uncles etc who've they learnt from. Don't dismiss their experiences of watching from afar, unless they're idiots
I want the advice from a more reasonable level as well from where most people are earning so 25k -50k earners. Would a women making 50k marry well a 35k man
Money is essential, but imo mentality matters more. If your partner has the right mentality, it shouldn't matter if one of you makes way more. Work as a team & communicate
While I appreciate some of the valuable insights on offer, as men-particularly Black men-we must approach these archetypal ideas of masculinity with caution. In 2024, we live in a society where we have collectively agreed to move beyond the financial dominance men once held in patriarchal systems to create space for women to thrive. Consequently, we must be mindful of how we navigate this shift while clinging to outdated societal standards. Doing so fosters neither healthy expectations for men regarding who they should be nor for women regarding whom they should choose as partners.
This needs to be an hour long. 🔥 I know women who earn more than their men. I promise you it doesn't work. The man cannot be a leader of the house, therefore he becomes a my yout and will take disrespect.
That’s because a woman who earns more than her husband, will always remind him that she earns more than him. When the dynamic is the other way, the “traditional” way, men do not constantly remind women that they out earn them!!
@@ldn876 Don’t let my opposing view confuse you with me not believing in tradition. However, this is 2024, a lot of women are out earning men. Whether they are teachers, project managers, dental hygienist, entrepreneurs, ladies are making money. The man can still be the leader of the household. Of course it wouldn’t make sense for a woman to double of treble what her partner is making but given a couple of grand here or there, it shouldn’t be a problem.
@kingtchala6832 a couple of grand doesn't make a difference. Him on 25 grand and her on 40 grand does. If a man is earning less than a woman and he is not inspired or ambitious enough to want to match her level. He will always be disrespected.
0:23 I think everyone's entitled to their opinion. Not being rich shouldn't mean a guy shouldn't be allowed to point out a gold digger. You don't need to have first-hand experience of something to have an educated opinion on it.
Let me say one thing: women NEED a man who’s emotionally available. If he’s not, but he earns a good wage she’s more likely to stay than a man who’s broke/earning significantly less and also emotionally unavailable. You can’t have both! That feels like a double L lol
😮 if a man lives with a woman without the benefit of marriage and helps to pay the mortgage or home improvements and then the relationships breaks down they can try to claim through the courts under the 1996 (TOLATA) the law is a ass. The law the needs to change in this country
Not everyones hungry to make money. Sounds like your hunger comes from being bought up in a poor background. Kids now are bought up with an easier life. Hard to instil hunger
@24:56 i dont think i would be talking to a man i just met (first 3-6 months approx) about my investing. As a woman, i would want to keep that private so im not perceived as Big Momma
@@CJ-kq8jeMarriage has many positive economic benefits from social to financial . Like all deals business or non related if it goes wrong it’s bad but if it’s well then it goes very very well
Big up to the brother who is in a marriage and some of you dudes in the comments but i think alot of us forget how rough it is for gen z black men out here. There levels are different. You probably met your wife's when social media and feminism wasn't so prevalent like it is now. Yeah there might be diamonds in the rough but alot of man aren't getting married in general and from what i hear from the youngers at my work they couldn't give two craps about relationships or marriage when there struggling to get stable salaries,foundations in place and lustfulness at all time high. Gen z women seem to be more about the bag and progressive mentalities, they don't really care about being a wife or family imo. That means 50/50 is the least of there worries bro. You either earn more or they bounce and monetize themselves on the dating scene from gullible men who take them to the shard on a first date (Yes they exist lol) Interesting times ahead. Carribean men will be worse off though, thats obvious.
Not watched any yet, but why is this a conversation? We're not living in the 50s ffs. Working as a team is whats required. Don't matter who brings what. If men are bothered do better.
@chichim2020 this is why we are disrespected in the world cos if we are having to have this type of chat in 2024 then we really haven't progressed have we.
This brother is dropping gems not gonna lie, very good guest
And he speaks very clearly too
They really need to drop his youtube channel or socials
He did his thing 💯
What's his name and socials id like to look him up
@@thekid8224 bread and butter podcast
Really grown up conversation here. But be careful - finance being the number one reason for marriage breakdown is not actually related to pay disparity. The technical cause is "attitude to finance" or "financial incompatibility". Most relationships become distressed due to debt and attitudes to debt (note this is likely to affect couples right across the salary bands).
This. Lot of relationships don't even take about money. It's a taboo
Marriage is a business and when a business gets liquidated the shares get divided
💯
I don’t care what anybody says you lot have by far the most beneficial content absolutely zero foolishness
Unfortunately they won’t go viral coz they don’t talk about body counts and the rubbish out here. But I agree content is solid
Man said a 13year bid man spat my water out 🤣🤣🤣
Gabriel's too funny😂😂😂😂
I think it helps people to learn what money is. Most people have no clue despite spending a huge chunk of their lives trying to obtain it.
I been with my Mrs 15 years. We bought a house together before getting married. We both work full time, we’ve always split everything 50/50. We have a joint account and that’s what we pay all our household bills from. Both our salaries go into our personal accounts. Only time I’ve ever paid more than my wife is when she wasn’t being paid during the end of maternity leave. We both earn a similar salary but there’s been times where she earned more, it was still always 50/50 neither of us have ever paid the majority of bills! We have never had an issue re money.
Sorry to ask but are you black ?
@ yes
Do you have kids?
@ 2
Listened to one clip yesterday and I’m glad to find another segment today. Only a few minutes in but really enjoying the openness, the wisdom and life experience being shared. Great convo. Thanks for sharing 👏🏽👏🏽👏🏽
These roles that you speak of are strictly based on socialisation. Necessity will make you adapt to a different role. Don’t get stressed over fitting into an imaginary box
There are good women out there far and few between same can be said for meaningful men. I’m nearly 15 years into my bid 😅. Deffo plenty ups and downs but she’s a real one. Loads of 💎 in this 🙏🏾🙏🏾
10:35 I'm not a woman, but I've found this to be a myth. Those are requirements from women on social media podcasts/shows. In REAL LIFE, women aren't that hell-bent. They prefer a guy to be taller & make more, but they don't specify 6 feet & 6 figures. And I've never heard one list "six pack" as something they look for.
I agree with Wes having money conversations with me just leads to stress. Just pray to have a good wife that is for both of you.
seems like a very supportive husband. Hopefully the wife never files for divorce
This one is really good,I’m always watching this channel. as they talk about real life things,people go through..!!👊🏽
I’m a man’s man all day long. I come from a 2 parent home where I have seen my dad pay the big bills.
Whilst it might be a cultural thing, these finance conversations are getting dangerous. In 2024, men and women need each other, we need each others salaries. Women fought for the right to work, if she’s earning well, you better be damn sure that she’s contributing to the household in some shape or form.
Whether it be council tax, food shop, phone bill, internet, water, car finance etc etc.
If the husband was to lose his job for a considerable time, what would happen? And vice versa!!
I’m not advocating bum status but what’s right for the household always has to be the bigger picture.
“Men are swapping the hi-vis for an apron” 😂 14:16
This 100k talk is jarring especially when it is coming from people I honestly don’t think make that. When single people or childless people talk on those who have such things it’s baffling to me. I could only take marriage advice from someone who has or is married, shout out to the young brother.
Childless people have parents, grandparents, cousins, uncles etc who've they learnt from. Don't dismiss their experiences of watching from afar, unless they're idiots
I want the advice from a more reasonable level as well from where most people are earning so 25k -50k earners. Would a women making 50k marry well a 35k man
Best guest you’ve had yet.Y’all would be a hit on TikTok
Perspective is everything..
Where are the rest of the men like this guy who have been married 13 years and kids ...
You find them.
Working…..
Married and working 😂
You probably passed him up because he wasn't a roadman or a badbwoy like most BW go for.
Money is essential, but imo mentality matters more. If your partner has the right mentality, it shouldn't matter if one of you makes way more. Work as a team & communicate
While I appreciate some of the valuable insights on offer, as men-particularly Black men-we must approach these archetypal ideas of masculinity with caution. In 2024, we live in a society where we have collectively agreed to move beyond the financial dominance men once held in patriarchal systems to create space for women to thrive. Consequently, we must be mindful of how we navigate this shift while clinging to outdated societal standards. Doing so fosters neither healthy expectations for men regarding who they should be nor for women regarding whom they should choose as partners.
Brilliant convo
Loved this episode
This needs to be an hour long. 🔥
I know women who earn more than their men.
I promise you it doesn't work.
The man cannot be a leader of the house, therefore he becomes a my yout and will take disrespect.
That’s because a woman who earns more than her husband, will always remind him that she earns more than him.
When the dynamic is the other way, the “traditional” way, men do not constantly remind women that they out earn them!!
@kingtchala6832 Men are supposed to earn more, it's your duty!
@@ldn876now if I say women are supposed to be virgins, it's your virtue...now what?
@@ldn876 Don’t let my opposing view confuse you with me not believing in tradition. However, this is 2024, a lot of women are out earning men.
Whether they are teachers, project managers, dental hygienist, entrepreneurs, ladies are making money. The man can still be the leader of the household. Of course it wouldn’t make sense for a woman to double of treble what her partner is making but given a couple of grand here or there, it shouldn’t be a problem.
@kingtchala6832 a couple of grand doesn't make a difference. Him on 25 grand and her on 40 grand does.
If a man is earning less than a woman and he is not inspired or ambitious enough to want to match her level. He will always be disrespected.
FORNICATION should definitely not be the reason u gettin' MARRIED! 🙅🏾♂ Glad he called out the Church on dat 1!
Also, them Ladies lookin' for that 666 match-up, ain't that supposed 2 be the "Devils Number"....Might wanna rethink 1 of those metrics deh! 👀🤷🏾♂
0:23 I think everyone's entitled to their opinion. Not being rich shouldn't mean a guy shouldn't be allowed to point out a gold digger. You don't need to have first-hand experience of something to have an educated opinion on it.
Let me say one thing: women NEED a man who’s emotionally available. If he’s not, but he earns a good wage she’s more likely to stay than a man who’s broke/earning significantly less and also emotionally unavailable. You can’t have both! That feels like a double L lol
Solid!
Three years for vibes - Rob’s a demon 🤧 23:52
🔥2k views in 6h👀. Bout to fly 🙏🙌
proper stuff
Aunty ooo 🤣🤣
smooth
😮 if a man lives with a woman without the benefit of marriage and helps to pay the mortgage or home improvements and then the relationships breaks down they can try to claim through the courts under the 1996 (TOLATA) the law is a ass. The law the needs to change in this country
I've never heard of this. interesting.
Same here. Its probably just nonsense. @@ldn876
Not everyones hungry to make money. Sounds like your hunger comes from being bought up in a poor background. Kids now are bought up with an easier life. Hard to instil hunger
@24:56 i dont think i would be talking to a man i just met (first 3-6 months approx) about my investing. As a woman, i would want to keep that private so im not perceived as Big Momma
Marriage is a government legal framework, the question is ? Do you want the government in your relationship business 🤔
Marriage has been in existence long before government….
@
And now the government govern the framework of a marriage…,
@@CJ-kq8jeMarriage has many positive economic benefits from social to financial . Like all deals business or non related if it goes wrong it’s bad but if it’s well then it goes very very well
@@CJ-kq8jeI take it you’re not married
@@aarontownsend9892
If I am, if I’m not, if I was, what does it matter, facts are facts, the government governs the legal framework of a marriage.
Big up to the brother who is in a marriage and some of you dudes in the comments but i think alot of us forget how rough it is for gen z black men out here. There levels are different. You probably met your wife's when social media and feminism wasn't so prevalent like it is now. Yeah there might be diamonds in the rough but alot of man aren't getting married in general and from what i hear from the youngers at my work they couldn't give two craps about relationships or marriage when there struggling to get stable salaries,foundations in place and lustfulness at all time high. Gen z women seem to be more about the bag and progressive mentalities, they don't really care about being a wife or family imo. That means 50/50 is the least of there worries bro. You either earn more or they bounce and monetize themselves on the dating scene from gullible men who take them to the shard on a first date (Yes they exist lol) Interesting times ahead. Carribean men will be worse off though, thats obvious.
🐝 ????
Can you link the guests RUclips channel please?
Bread and butter podcasts
youtube.com/@breadandbutterpod?si=VwnqYlugvr1Iy6r_
Not watched any yet, but why is this a conversation? We're not living in the 50s ffs. Working as a team is whats required. Don't matter who brings what. If men are bothered do better.
People are free to have conversations they want to arrive at constructive outcomes. It’s not for you to determine what others can talk about.
@chichim2020 this is why we are disrespected in the world cos if we are having to have this type of chat in 2024 then we really haven't progressed have we.
@@BLRayBanUK Sure.