Hey I remember this story. Thanks for bringing it back. What ever killed the shark didn't have to swallow it whole, it just might have just bit off a piece which had the tracker attached to it.
But if only cut of that part it can’t have that much accuracy to just leave the tag and it wouldn’t be useful for the predator if it just fit like 1 tiny part
And also it showed that when it was casually swimming something with so much power with sheer determination took it to the deep waters and prob fed on it since all that work for just to let the shark escape ?
I and a friend were surfing in the early 1970's at Clifford Bay NZ. We had "long boards", not the skimpy little things you see these days. I think my board was 8 foot. Anyway, we were lying on the boards paddling out to a point break about 300 metres offshore on a dull overcast summers day. Suddenly my mate sat up on his board, turned, was on his knees and paddling back past me to shore and as he went by, he quietly said "shark". I didn't really comprehend his message and I dozily raised myself up on the board to look eyeball to eyeball with a huge Great White [he looked to be twice the size of my board - but hey, it was big]. I froze and watched him as he watched me and he gracefully moved without any effort, through the crystal clear water about a board length in front of me. We kept eye contact until he got so far across from me that he flicked his eye back to the front and continued his quest for fish that may have been disoriently by the surf - so I presumed. I got up on my knees and paddled that board right up onto the beach! We opened a couple of bottles of beers and drank them down with the froth we had made from our shaking hands!. I haven't been surfing since then; in my 70's now and don't think I ever will be back on a board! When you see just how powerful these creatures are, how with only muscle rippling they can move through the water, you realise that you are in their domain and there at their pleasure.
I watched them from a boat eating a dead whale about 6 km off sth Australia shore and you’re right they move through the water effortlessly and gracefully. People naturally try to out swim sharks as a natural reaction but we are wasting our time. It’s impossible.😂
Cool story.. I love the water but Jaws affected me in going out far in ocean water. I live in Maine and a woman was eaten right off shore in front of her daughter as they swam in York Maine. It was a 17 foot great white
The tagged shark Alpha was 2,7 meters long (9 feet), which is less than half the size of the largest great white shark ever recorded (7 meters/23,5 feet). Sharks are famously opportunists and can perfectly well decide to be cannibalistic if hungry enough. They can also dive very deep, especially larger specimens dive to lower depths than the smaller ones. To reiterate the size difference between the tagged female and the largest recorded great white; Shark Alpha was half a meter (2,7 feet) longer than André the Giant, and the largest specimen was 1,2 meters or four feet and change longer than the tallest giraffe recorded (George, at 5,8 meters/19 feet)
Actually ..the largest shark on record is a 21 footer caught off of Sicily ... Even at that size it wouldn't have the bite size to take the dorsal fin from either end or below.. No air breather can dive or survive that deep and nothing from that depth would feed at the surface... So it's still a mystery that needs solving ...
Fear mongering or not a billionaire Asian who was a gene scientist was turned in for having a secret massive tank built under his mansion. And he was said to have re-create a meg!!
Around Australia and Guadalupe Island most of the great whites that are tagged tend to be between 11 and 18 feet in length so a 17 ft great white seems less likely to have gigantism and more likely to be an adult of average size. Shark Alpha was just a very unlucky juvenile.
@@o-mangaming5042 And that's what we've caught and formally documented (though rarely). ocean life being what it is today, it's safe to say almost all species had larger specimens 100 yrs ago or more. Heck, even 50 yrs ago. That all adds up to there is (or has been recently) larger white sharks than "only" 7 meters. I didn[t like how narrator called the 9ft great white as "huge" that's not even avg, bud! Then again, I say that from the comfort of my very dry office hundreds of miles from the ocean and probably 1000 miles from the nearest white shark
why did they bother tagging the 9’er ? had’nt heard of that seeming waste of time since that size of fish are likely to become edibles’ rather than the (larger ones) providing migration Data !!
@@thomasmacginnes100 I think it’s cause they happened along a swarm of sharks and were tagging as many as they could to get as much data as possible. The swarm wasn’t too far off the shore because they were attracted to the whale carcasses, and so they were easier to tag. That’s just my guess though.
A 16 foot Great White is not exactly abnormal, Great Whites are known to grow up to 20' in length. Granted, 20 footers are very uncommon these days because they've been hunted so heavily in the past, thanks in no small part to the movie Jaws, but they can grow that large. So a 16 footer, while quite large for a Great White these days, is hardly anything abnormal.
Some years back off the coast of Australia, a great white was hauled in from a shark net. Prob 4m or so IIRC. Poor shark was dead cos a huge bite had been taken out of it. Half metre jaw diameter, which equates to a 6.5-7m great white. So there's at least 1 out there
Deep Blue as they named a huge female Great White is around 24 feet long or 7+ meters. I live in South Australia and have been seeing Whites here since I was 4 years old, i'm over 60 now and I can assure you 18 footers have been seen often here with some sightings of 20+ feet recorded. I've had an easy 18 footer come up to our boat while snapper fishing with my father in the 1960s which was the length of our boat which was 18 feet. Numerous others saw the same shark which attacked a couple of the other boats
I've seen a 9 foot shark attacked by a 12 foot shark, then get chewed to pieces by 6 others after being incapacitated by the first big bite. I've seen feeding frenzies with several different predators competing for pieces of the victim. Perhaps a giant squid grabbed the shark & dove with it, as they would, then some other sharks followed it down to try to get a piece of the pie, and one of them ended up with the tracker.
But is there anything in the ocean that warm other than marine mammals? fish arent' THAT much warmer than surround ambient water temp are they? Don['t tell me they're the same as ambient bc sea turtles are warmer than ambient (when in cold waters) at least that's what the world's foremost leatherback expert told me in person in costa rica one beautiful starlit night 18 yrs ago
How about a naturally occurring Sperm Whale? Not the certainly-extinct Melvillei but a very large modern specimen. I have heard that they can dive to very great depths and feed on Colossal Squid. Also, did anyone test the tag for DNA? Good presentation by the way.
Maybe is was that black demon shark that has been reported quite a few tine now. Fun fact: There is a well known case of sharks disapearing from a big ocean tank expo. The keepers thaught that bigger sharks/predators were eating them but they could not prove it and couldnt cut them open either. So they kept their vigil and eventually caught the culprit. The big pride of the tank a huge octopus had developed a taste for shark. It hunted from them at night and then dragged them back to his hole to gobbled them up.
Depending on how the tracker was attached to the fin, I believe that whatever creature attacked the shark, resulted in the tracking device detaching from the shark ( along with a chunk of the dorsal fin and falling into an underwater vent of some sort and rising in temperature, before floating to the surface after the flesh it was attached to was either; melted, eaten, or the tag somehow became removed in which it floated to the surface. I'm not sure how plausible that is but let me know what you think, is this a plausible theory? Edit: Nevermind I just found out the video just takes 25 minutes to tell you what actually happened...
Studies of white sharks in the gulf in the gulf found that they maintain a constant body temperature of about 26.5°C (almost 80°F). Was a larger great white or a Tiger.
14-16ft is a normal size of a Great White they are considered big after that , The largest recorded was 23 ft with 20 ft GWs seen regularly 50 years ago now they are very rare.
Those reports about 36' and 37' sharks from 1870 in Australia and 1930's in Canada are widely considered unreliable. The largest shark reliably measured is a female named Great Blue and she's just over 20 feet
@@drest.patrick6016there was a man in South Africa who was devoured by a huge shark, witnesses said it was dinosaur huge. You never know what’s out there and just because a large shark isn’t common, doesn’t mean it isn’t possible
Soo, take what seems like a fantastic, mysterious riddle and turn it into a 30 minute story filled with crazy theories about a "Jurassic Park" type explanation is certainly ONE way to go...
I love how the title says this incident is finally solved, while the show itself covers a variety of possible explanations... all of which are based on relatively little actual evidence. Makes for an interesting video... I'll give 'em that!
Yessss. We should all know by now the uploaders goal is for you and I to. CLICK ON THE VIDEO . If you don't have any fresh content cooked up then you probably bring up an old topic and adding a lie like " finally solved " . Are you surprised? If we steelhead thumbs-up and thumbs-down ratios showing on the video thumbnails where you can see what percentage of people gave a thumbs up I guarantee you we would have known it was a lie because we would have seen a lot of thumbs down
I love how you can take what seems like a simple question and trace it back to show how what seems simple turns out to be quite complex. Best of all, you make it quite entertaining.
Whoever narrated this has the most amazing and fun and calming voice ever. I listen to a lot of ghost stories, etc. I wish he would narrate some. He could almost rival Natures Temper! Great job Dude!!!!
@@BillyJ244 how do you figure that? I’m 52 and have surfed since I was five. I’ve only met someone who was bit once and that was when he was fishing and was a tiny scar. The ocean is probably more safe than staying in your house. It would be nice if everyone thought like you and stayed out though, now that I think of it. No clueless tourists in the way would be great.
The idea of a massive cannibal shark is as equally terrifying as an unknown creature. If anything this has shown a new behavior pattern for a specific population of great whites. As for the larger shark plummeting to deep depths to eat the shark, lots of great white attacks on people have a resulted in the sharks dragging the victim to the bottom and tearing the person to pieces on the seafloor. This occurred in that horrific attack in Tasmania where the father/daughter duo we're diving for scallops. When the father failed to surface, she dove down look for him and saw a great white pinning him to the seafloor tearing him up. Sharks either impact from below, or rapidly descend when they capture prey to disorient prey.
the pinning is common for sharks because it gives them leverage and they can hold the victim whilst attacking versus pushing on the victim inadvertently while killing and/or consuming and the prey is pushed further from them - a horrific example
Omg Way to brighten someone's day my dude 👍 I bet yer just a riot at parties f#&k! I can't imagine the ptsd that poor girl developed. JESUS CHRIST! I can grantee she never set foot in water or even on a boat again. As much as i love the beach I would have moved to the desert.
all sharks are cannibals This does not show any new behavior pattern for a specific population of great whites at all.... The depth the tag changed temp at was not that deep. They said later they have been recorded as deep as 4k GW attacks are not common and you have no way of recording or showing recordings of the behavior that you are saying is common. Going to the bottom of the ocean to eat there... you are making that up Scallops are shallow water animals so they were relatively shallow which is why the story went that way. Whites bite and thrash if the object is large (whales) or they bite and shake to get a mouthful as their teeth are not meant to chew by crushing. This event is not endemic of all GW attacks Sharks dive to get away from other sharks the same reason predatory animals on land grab something and try to run off with it. As not to share When you weren't just assuming things you were either making them up and asserting them as scientifically proven fact or repeating something someone else said that you are now asserting as fact
Not sure why 16 feet is somehow a "super shark" it is a large white shark, but 16 to 20 feet or so is far from unheard of. The largest female I believe was around 21 feet and incredibly heavy bodies at almost 2 ton. That would make it twice as long as probably about 3 to 4 times heavier than the shark that was eaten. Also it could have just taken a large bite from the smaller shark swallowing the tracker then diving down. Not really that crazy.
Just a minor point. Even if the squid was cold blooded, would the chemical reactions from digestion cause the stomach temp be higher??? Has this been tested??
It's actually a good theory, but come to think of it, the temperature found would be too high for any chemical compound to produce in such a large body of ocean water. The culprit creature would need to have a very thick body and guts(insulation), covering its "hot" digestion system, to keep such high temperature in an immeasurable body of freezing ocean water and depth. An orca would fit de description better, even a bigger great white, but I still have my doubts
But a giant octopus eat sharks to even a killer whale will lose from a gain octopus a giant octopus van will be 33 feet long/larsed bigger than the killer whale/Orca
but a giant octopus van eat sharks too and even a killer whale orca's can lose from a gained octopus a giant octopus van well be 33 feet long and eat different whales even the Orca/killer whales
Largest octopus is the Pacific octopus,they are no where near 30 ft and could not prey on orcas.Giant and colossal squid are quite a bit larger but still don't prey on orcas
I'm sticking with Orca. Because the readings came back that the tag was dragged to that depth at a warm temperature we assume the whole shark was with it. As we know from the beginning of the video the shark was tagged on the back of It's dorsal fin. That means an Orca could've easily taken a chunk out of it. They're also a creature known to waste their food. I watched three chase a mum and baby whale for over three hours ( David Attenborough ) only to eat the baby's jaw and f*ck off like a bunch of pr*cks lol. They also use penguins for sport and eat very little of them after they're done. I'll wait for further evidence but my money's still on the Orcas being the culprit for this one 🤷♀
Orcas go after the dorsal? That doesn't seem logical. They generally grab a pectoral when upside down and flip it end to end they are so frikken strong! At least that's what's been documented. They then hold it until the shark drowns then gobble up the liver. they don't appear to actually eat anything else just the liver.
yeah i wouldnt put any stock in information supplied by the same govt that used 9/11 to bomb themselves and blames afghan or sinks the Titanic but hey the Rothchilds got off right before right, or the govt that claims their president died to a magic bullet, or that sub that randomly went explodey
If you’re diving deeper it doesn’t get warmer. The only explanation is a belly of an animal. Orcas don’t dive that deep either. I will say this. We have no idea what’s on this planet. Everything hasn’t been explored and species they claim has been extinct is found live and well
Going back to the question on whether squids eat sharks frequently or not, based on the fact that we only got either one or very few occurances of sharks alive from squid attacks, I can assume that there are 2 possibilities. 1. Squids rarely attack sharks, and if they did it would be for self defense, thats why we only find a few attacks. 2. Squids frequently eat sharks and they are so efficient at killing them that almost none make it out alive.
Try to think how practical it would really be for a squid (even a really big one) to kill a shark, all they've got are tentacles and a beak. A squid could wrap a shark up with its tentacles but what good is that going to do? The shark weighs more, is significantly more powerful and can't be choked/restrained. The beak of squid/octopus are pretty strong but they're not exactly designed for doing lethal damage to a large shark, sharks are exceptionally hard to kill so unless that beak is big enough to bite a shark in half it's just not going to be practical for a quick kill.
@@DjDolHaus86 No, squid/giant squid, are really vicious when they hunt. It's also not like a sword fight where it's a clash of tentacles and shark teeth; squid grab onto their prey with these barbed tentacles and drag them down to the depths, cutting and lashing them with tentacles and beak and killing anything that needs to breathe at the surface or that needs to move to breathe. I think you are overestimating the shark's defenses and underestimating how predatory and scary everything else in the ocean is. It's kinda like with how people think the karate masters will be able to beat these UFC guys, but the UFC guys are usually just way bigger and destroy them.
I think the problem would be squids big enough to eat sharks lives in a depth where great white and most sharks don't swim at. So I don't think squids would often hunt them
You seem to forget the shark might not have been eaten at all, but only had a chunk taken out by the fin, thereby the tracker was ingested with 20 pounds of shark bite. The sensor could have been regurgitated soon after and not gone through the stomach.
But why did the shark waited until it dived that deep down before eating “just the fin”. The video said that the shark ate the alpha shark only after it dived deep deep down
The body temperature is one of the best clues. I would have liked Orcas as a hypothesis, but they are too warm. A very large great white was another possibility because unlike many fish the great white can run slightly warmer than its surroundings. But, not that warm.
@@miniscool5613 So meaning a bigger Great White. Could have finished off Shark Alpha. Only one shark could fit that description. No other then the legendary Submarine. A larger Great White shark very intelligent one at that. Then again Submarine must be dead by now.
The first time I ever heard this "mystery" presented, I thought that the shark itself did not need to be eaten, it just had to be something that took a bite where the tracker was located. Like many internet mysteries it has been way overblown and pseudoscienced to death.
Could be a mosasaur because they were real millions of years ago but 80% of the ocean hasn't been explored so it could've been anything for all we know
I honestly think an orca killed the shark, ripped out its liver as they do often. Great white liver is an orcas favourite meal. Then other sharks scavenged the remains, another great white ate the part that had the tag. They are warm blooded. That’s what happened folks no matter how much you want it to be a a Megladon. 😝 🦈
Maybe an Archelon? They would have been big enough to eat a 9 foot great white and since it was a enormous sea turtle there's a possibility it was carnivorous
In WWII there was a British ship that threw out some depth charges and had a crazy "alligator looking" specimen float up to the top (killed by the charges) & which was verified by a ton of the crew who saw it. I think it's definitely still out there, whatever it was. Not to mention salt water crocodiles, which get Enormous, are known to live out at sea.
South West of Western Australia is over 1100km from the range of the estuarine (salt water) crocodile. There's no way a cold blooded tropical reptile could survive in the freezing southern ocean around Esperance or Albany W.A, the region where this shark was killed. My money as a former local would be on a much bigger great white (3 meters is barely an adult) or an Orca.
Alternatively, the tracker could have been bitten off by another shark during a feeding session and then Alpha was torn apart in a blood frenzy. That's not unheard of either. Also, I have no doubt that certain 'archaic' creatures live in the depths of the ocean. Like the dude said, 80% of it remains unexplored. Humans are only apex on land, and are just another prey creature in the water.
If the shark is being digested by a stomach acid that might raise the temperature. It should not be that difficult to find out what kind of stomach acid other squids have and see if digesting shark meat would raise the temperature like that.
we watched this as part of our home schooling on friday and my six year old has asked to watch it every day since then. i am not exaggerating. (to be fair, it’s only sunday. but i know when my child is starting a trend…) anyway, your voice is incredibly soothing to listen to and i just want to express my appreciation for the fact that, if i’m going to have to listen to this video at LEAST daily (and possibly multiple times daily), at least it’s rather pleasant to listen to. when i have it memorized, i’ll do a lip sync reaction video to it. 😜
WE ARE STILL WATCHING THIS. WE ARE UP TO A MINIMUM OF TWICE A DAY. I KNOW THESE COMMENTS WON’T BE SEEN FOR 13 YEARS. I JUST WANT THOSE FUTURE VIEWERS TO KNOW I AM SURVIVING.
Honestly, the fact remains that this could have also just been the Top Dorsal Fin where the tracking device was attached, just bitten off instead of the entire Shark itself actually eaten whole.. the fact that something much larger exists is in fact possible and I do believe there actually is. My opinion is the tracking device and Dorsal Fin Portion was the only portion in fact eaten by perhaps another shark in warmer waters at surface level before submerging to the depths before its body temp cooled, or an unknown warm blooded undiscovered creature... ;-) just another possibility ;-)
yep its probably whats the case or similar it unattached somehow as cool as it is too imagine a huge monster consuming a shark whole is thats just it, cool would also be cool to be wrong
The latest theories about Livyatan Melvillei going extinct actually have to do with their *prey* going extinct. They were thought to prey primarily on smaller warm-blooded whales, the precursors of our baleen whales. These in turn depended on widely scattered, abundant patches of krill in the warm waters they swam in, and right behind them were Megalodon and Livyatan Melvillei. But when the waters turned cold, the krill these small whales depended on began to gather in much colder waters, and concentrate. Big whales - VERY big whales - had the insulation necessary to survive those cold waters, the giant mouths to take large batches of krill, and most importantly they could fast for a good part of the year - the small whales could not. So the little guys went extinct because they couldn't handle the changed patterns of their prey. What took their place, the ancestors of giants like Right Whales, Bowhead Whales, and Blue Whales, were far too big for even these mega-predators to eat. One slap of the flukes of a Blue Whale would be enough to fatally damage even a Megalodon or Livyatan. And so when the little whales went, so did Megalodon and Livyatan Melvillei, starved to extinction by the loss of their primary prey.
Yeah back in 1970s there wasn't a lot of huge Great White because of no protection species but because of that, Great Whites have rebounded and they are surviving to greater age and 20ft. isn't that rare!
Yeah Deep Blue is supposedly the largest recorded and video recorded on several occasions now. Think she's just over 20 foot. But yeah a 15+ foot would definitely take down a 9 foot no problem.
Around 40 years ago, I was having a conversation with a retired fisherman whom at one time had also captained the URI research vessel out of Narraganset RI. I asked him what the strangest thing he had ever brought up in his nets was. He initially told me left over torpedoes and such from WWII. There is still a sunken U-boat off block island to this day. So, I said to him I was interested in strange sea life. His response was a 25 foot long, 5,000-pound great white shark came up in his net once. It was 1 mile off Charlestown beach in RI (Block Island sound). At that time, I didn't know that great whites usually didn't exceed 16 feet. After all I grew up with Jaws lol. All these years later I hear about megalodon and ever since I cannot help but be suspicious that he had in fact caught a young megalodon. They cut it up and tossed it overboard if I remember correctly because there was no market for that type of fish then. His catching incident happened approximately 80 years ago as it happened about 40 years before he told me the story. He was in his 80's at the time of the conversation. This a true story. It was a pity he hadn't taken a picture of it.
This story broke my heart. Are you telling me these guys just killed for nothing and extraordinary animal, maybe the last real megalodon? Damn, we do deserve the worst... Thank you for sharing it, though.
Fun video! By the way, 16 feet in an adult great white isn't gigantism, it's the average size of a fully adult female, though it is very much on the biggest side for males. The largest females have been measured at 20-21 feet. I could see easily how one of the more massive female great whites took Shark Alpha.
Alpha was chased 2x by its killer on 2 different days. The young shark quickly dove deep as it's evasive behavior, but was at last caught in the depth on its second dive. The killers internal temp was warmer than great whites, but too cold to be a mammal. In fact, the internal temp actually matches up to those of the leatherback sea turtle. But, as we all know, leatherbacks are jellyfish predators and not shark eaters, and even the largest of them would not dare tackling a 9 ft great white. The data showed that after being eaten, the killer stayed up near the surface for 8 days maintaining that temp until the tag was "excreted" from the killers digestive tract. The 8-day digestive period further proves its not the handiwork of a large shark as sharks digest and excrete their waste in a matter of a couple of days. The 8 day period also matches up to those of the leatherback, therefore, this leads to what some think may be a giant undiscovered species of predatory turtle. I'm not sure if I remembered this correctly, there was a sighting decades ago by a fisherman of a gigantic shell-less looking sea turtle of roughly 38ft in length, and I believe that witness may have also took a photograph of the creatures head and a bit of the neck sticking out of the water...
I'd like to add that after the tracker was found, the team went out with a sonar equipped boat to look for the culprit in the vicinity and got sonar contact 60+ ft below the boat, an 35ft object swimming slowly.. so at 35ft. It definitely wasn't a great white shark. The size doesn't match, the internal body temp doesn't match.
First off the Temp of a great white shark is close enough to the tag shown , also white sharks are cold blooded so there body temp will change just based off how much they are moving and the surrounding water. They have data of a core white shark in about the same temp of water at around 80 degrees *F. On top of that since they are a fish there sizes can be far more different then just based off age and any data taken for getting a white shark core temp could be different based off size , where is the data that says that can not be a factor? Then trying to say that a great white only rakes 2 days to complete it's eating and waste cycle does not hold up since they have found a lot of different stuff in sharks stomachs that were in there longer then 2 days , The tracker was made out of materials that a shark stomach is not able to digest the same way they would of things of there normal diet. last the swimming around the same spot for 8 days does not mean anything since if a shark ate something that size it would not be looking for food the next day and was probably just hanging around to digest it's meal and as pointed out in this video or other data that the area is known to have white sharks and we also know that a shark will hang around the spot area for lengths of time. all hat said your theory is not the craziest I have seen and over the years it has been pointed out while white sharks are apex predator's they have weaknesses that other sea life has figured out to exploit. Large shark for the most part do not mess with dolphins even though you would think they would be an easy meal but dolphins have learned to bash sharks in the gills . These are things that make your theory not impossible but I still think it was just a bigger shark and again the shark being called "big" at 9 feet is not true and a 16 feet white shark is big but they have proven to have come across white sharks that get over 20 feet and while I cannot say for sure it sounds much more likely then a deformed sized turtle that you forget needs to breath air and at most a leatherback is thought to be able to hold it's breathe in cold water for up to 7 hours but only with very vety little movement and it seems like it would be very hard for a turtle to drag a shark down to those depths and eat it without coming up for air within a short time frame.
@@tonysobon4669there is one thing wrong with your theory though sharks won't try and eat another shark unless it was small enough to not pose a threat sharks don't like to waste all their energy with hunting so if it thinks it's pray is too much of a fight and they might lose they won't even bother shark blood also contains a chemical that works like an alarm when exposed to water and it's been studied that the smell of sharks blood makes other sharks in the area scatter and run away so if it did eat the shark it wouldn't just sit around they don't like the smell of the blood with how sharks hunt and act around each other it's unlikely it was another shake that killed it unless it was literally doubled it's size
@@tonysobon4669this is not against your side or ops just something about sharks and orcas one thing I found funny about this story is how like humans gave generational trauma to most animal species the same is true for orcas They attack anything even mooses (except humans in the wild) with zero need to eat and kill for fun and is a proven fact that if an orca is near by a shark even great white will stear clear of the area for a while So the part where it's a heavy shark and orca population is weird as both can be territorial to even their own species not related in orcas case so it's odd that many sharks stay in that area also with the squid at night as a threat it's really puzzling
I honestly think an orca killed the shark, ripped out its liver as they do often. Great white liver is an orcas favourite meal. Then other sharks scavenged the remains, another great white ate the part that had the tag. They are warm blooded. That’s what happened folks no matter how much you want it to be a a Megladon. 😝 🦈
@@kieranhart5776 if u think about it an orca does not rip,tear or thrash it's pray it comes up and smashes the prays underside to paralize and eat it + orcas do not go that deep and usually do not sudenly veer away from there feeding places
When the tracker was analyzed, it said that the shark dove very deep, suddenly and abruptly, yet held the same external temperature. Meaning it was probably swallowed whole.
@@oliverrey4170 Megalodon was a coastal predator not a deep sea one. We would have seen it. Mosasarus is defo extinct though Monitor Lizards could easily start Mosasaur 2.0 if they wanted to start going back into the ocean.
Or another shark, in an effort to save itself from getting injured itself, blindsided it from above, ripped a chunk off and kept going down. They tag the fin, it doesn't necessarily cover the rest of the body. Or a sperm whale, since they duke it out with Giant Squids a lot and found an easier meal in that shark
What could also be a reason that shark alpha got draged so deep was because of Water Pressure because a bigger shark could handle greater depths it could weaken the smaller shark Alpha. Just a little thing to consider.
It's pretty common knowledge that a 9 foot great white is on the small end and likely a youngish shark. 17 footers are large but not uncommon. The average female is between 12 and 16 feet with Deep Blue being between 19-21 feet. Super fun video but I am reasonably sure gigantism didn't play a role.
Yeah I always felt like these videos try to up play the size of the eaten shark to be to big when besides what you pointed out there are other Sharks that can hit the 20 feet mark.
I thought it was a colossal squid, but the cannibal gigantism shark makes a lot of sense. As much as I'd like to hear that there's some new mystery unsolved concerning leviathans of lucid size, I think I'd sleep easier if nothing of the sort existed. That said... The ocean always has unsolved mysteries, right?
It didn't have gigantism. Great whites can reach 20 ft in length. 16 ft is average size for females, but they can get bigger without having gigantism. Deep Blue is 20 ft and still doesn't have gigantism.
Wow I had misconception for their size Still though, if the smallest are 13 ft and the largest are 20 ft, it feels like the larger one would have to have an extra couple meters before being able to devour another and drag it down hundreds of meters through the ocean.
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Has anyone ever considered it was attacked by multiple creatures and then something happened to eat the piece that had the tracker. Also sharks eat each other too. Could have been some kind of feeding frenzy and Alpha was a victim. Happens a lot in nature.
This is my theory as well. Animals aren't like humans, it's not like some predator bought the shark and the entire thing was his meal alone. A carcass is a complete free-for-all for anything in the area.
Doesn't take an animal/ seacreature to swallow shark alpha whole? Just tear a chunk off? There are many examples of large fish having chunks bitten out?
Given the massiveness of the oceans, it honestly doesn't make much difference the size of the creature when it comes to how often we might see it. If a Megalodon were to have the same habits as other animals we do often see then I suppose the chances are very small. If it happened to dwell in only the deeper waters then I guess our chances of seeing it are based on how many underwater rovers we have out there.
@@caseypiper11 Sperm Whale? They're huge and find plenty enough to eat that certainly ain't small plankton. The teeth on those guys has not evolved to be like the size of a large city rat in order to filter-feed down there :P Plenty creatures find enough large creatures to predate upon down there in those dark unexplored regions - and that is only what we have already discovered and proven! If you wanna believe all that's predominantly down there is plankton then you're mistaken.
I wonder what state the tracker was found in? Was it chewed up or did it show sings of stomach acid? It seems like there is something there that would shed more light on the mystery. If the tracker was in perfect shape it seems unlikely that it would have gone end to end in a giant shark, with all those teeth munching down repeatedly and somehow the tracker is unharmed at all?
I think shark alpha may not be necessarily dead. There was a struggle between the shark and another shark or whale. The tag came off and most probably wound up in the mouth of a shark or whale that dives that deep. Sperm whale is 1 candidate. It could also stay without air for hours.
Yes the temperature is the problem. It could not a fish or squid as pointed out in the video. It had to be a large carnivorous creature probably a killer whale. As several people pointed out the poor old shark most likely just got bitten. The tracker then got pooped out or regurgitated. 😮
"Yes the temperature is the problem ... It had to be a large carnivorous creature probably a killer whale." You just contradicted yourself. Because the temperature was not as high as it would have been in a mammal, it could NOT have been an orca. So what would have made more sense would be "The temperature is the problem. It could not have been a killer whale."
So here's a puzzle for you concerning Megladon: "Prehistoric crocodiles were called archosaurs. These ruling reptiles originated over 250 million years ago, long before dinosaurs, birds, and modern-day crocodiles." So, if the dinosaurs were wiped out by a meteor but crocks survived, then why not Megladon?
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I think it was a sperm whale and not a giant great white, I mean a sperm whale lives at the surface but hunts at the deep sea plus a sperm whale is warm blooded and far more common than gigantism itcould easily swallow a great white and sientists found cases of sperm whales eating great whites.
Yes, but sperm whales would not be able to hold the temperature in which was recorded on the tracker. With how fast it happened, a sperm whale is not able to take on the great white, then dive down. They can only be in such depths for only an hour, meaning that if a sperm whale killed the great white, it would have been more torwards the surface. Gigantism may be rare but not impossible. A gigantic great white is the most scientifically possible because of the sustained internal body temperature the tracker recorded, and no reports of sperm whales have been seen hunting in that area.
Some narrator's are way too lazy and irritating, but I had a sound sleep since your way of telling the story seems to be a great lullaby. I could sleell like a new born baby thank you.😊
Don't digestive acids create heat when they're doing they're thing? Does anyone know what the stomach temp of a cold blooded critter like a giant squid be while it's digesting or do they just assume they know everything already and didn't bother to look for evidence as they do with everything else.
I'm more fascinated by the fact a tiny little computer board was out in the middle of the ocean, 1,000 feet deep, and still ended up on shore. Thousand of tons of trash are just floating out there for years but this little computer board made it home.
If the meg was still alive (I don't think it is for a second) but assuming it is, it could technically survive if it has evolved enough and remains in the deepest depths of the ocean. Ocean life is typically gets significantly larger deeper down than near the surface due to deep sea gigantisism. The sleeper shark is a great example of that, however just like he said in the video the meg would have had to evolve similarly to the sleeper shark and probably live in colder waters as well. The cold is a factor to the sleeper sharks slow growing and longevity, but the problem with that is that as far as scientists are aware the meg was cold blooded that thrived in very warm waters so it would have had to not only evolve like the sleeper shark, but also evolve to produce some heat like the Great White to live or go to the extreme and somehow adapt like the Greenland shark and survive in the frigid cold of the poles while still being cold blooded.
There are animals bigger than dinosaurs even today in the oceans. Whales are the main contenders though like the Blue Whale which is the largest animal to have ever existed, and in current times. The Humpback whale is a very aggressive whale that have been known to attack even groups of Orcas (Killer Whales) and win. It is possible one of them could have hit the shark and knocked its tracker off. The Orcas actually have a stronger bit force than Dinosaurs too, which just goes to show how dangerous the oceans really are.
Being attached specifically to the base of the dorsal fin, are we absolutely sure the tag didn't just get removed and tossed overboard by shark poachers where it sank to the bottom before getting accidentally mistaken for prey by a reasonably sized creature that hunts by sensing movement, and consumed THAT way? You know, Occam's razor and all that. Remember, the tag was not necessarily tracking the shark the entire time, just itself.
In 1994 a friend and I saw what we estimated to be a 40 foot great white from our Navy ship about 300 miles off the coast of Brazil. Nobody has ever believed us,,but that's ok because we Both saw it. It was absolutely HUGE. Far bigger than the biggest great white known to exist,,,Deep Blue.
Probably a basking shark or a whale shark. From the surface they look a lot like great whites except they’re enormous - TikTok is full of people misidentifying them.
I did hear of a huge shark in the pacific that took down a whale in front of some tourists on a ship. I wish people would take pictures you'd think in this day and age that would be the first thing to do!. Wow so this 40 ft shark did it have same coloring as a great white ? What was it doing behaving? Plz elaborate I'm intrigued.
Incredible that this channel can achieve SO many views for such low level of content! So much to learn about you human fellows (seriously taking notes).
Obviously, you are not learning a thing. Note this, maybe not spend your day trying to criticize random videos for attention. Video was fun and didn't claim to be an expert. Go watch Call of Duty videos. Those hackers and lags deserve it and you'll have much more fun.
I’m curious why a giant cannibal shark is accepted as a solution when it is also cold-blooded and that exact criterion was used to eliminate several other of the theories
Great Whites and similar members (Makos, Salmon Sharks, etc.) are actually WARM blooded. That's why the can be in colder water than some other shark species.
I figured if there were deep sea vents that could have been where the sudden heat came from. They're not really detailing how long the heat remained or more about the biometrics. I guess the scientists know better than me though lol.
I personally saw a 6m shark when fishing from a boat in the Indian Ocean near Mombasa Kenya. So a 5 meter (giant shark as you call them) is not so uncommon.
A 6 metre Great White is a massive individual and extremely rare, so you where extremely lucky :). I was lucky enough to see a smaller specimen (4 or so metres) and it was FREAKING HUGE :)
Can tell you from personal experience that Bremer Bay WA is 1 of the most beautiful beaches in the world. Beautiful turquoise water, and shark attacks are very rare.
Question: Could it be at all possible that the dive could’ve been an attempted evasion attempt from Alpha? Reason I ask is because as much as I don’t know enough, between mass, speed and potential of turning at all at high speed for such a large shark, let alone turning downward, if larger ones need to rely more on ambush tactics for it, then sudden powerful bursts of speed are likely going to be the prevalent event. But what if Alpha saw on time, did some problem solving to maximise her chance of escaping and dove as the initial stage of that before unfortunately, to use an AD&D term, rolling a one?
hmm sounds like a good theory! the only thing i think of though is how it wasn’t just shark alpha that had this happened to her, as they mentioned towards the end of the video. so what are the chances that all of these other sharks performed this exact (as far as i know, uncommon) tactic in the same exact location? and it still doesn’t solve the reason why temperatures increased to such a degree as it went deeper🤔 but again, i’m no shark expert, so maybe i’m overlooking something. either way, i like the theory!
Who knows. But what he said was horse-sh*t, great whites have been known to dive as deep as 1200 meters, a little more than orcas 1000 meters. To do this, they close their gills, temporarily holding their breath to not lose heat, as it's very cold down there. So a great white at 500 meters while not necessarily normal, is less than half what they can do for short periods! I also don't get it, can't we check average temperatures of other creatures around there to see who matches? And likely literally no creature could swallow the shark whole, I don't get why it's unthinkable a curious orca or something took it? Australia isn't even that far from South afrika where Port and starboard are hunting great whites livers!
@@viktorbirkeland6520 ah ok there u go, someone who knows stuff about great whites. i mean, im guessing theres gotta be a reason they excluded the fact that it cudve just been alpha herself that dove that deep (though again, how common is this that other sharks in the area did the exact same thing?) and definitely, the tag cudve just gotten removed and swallowed by something else and doesnt mean that alpha was swallowed whole. but again, the other shark examples..?
There are 2 important details missing from the analysis (if we can call it that) of the video: • Both tags found on the beaches were not subjected to any known form of digestive systems and didn't had any traces of digestion on them. Remember that those tags are made of materials that would have reacted quite differently if they were to pass through a digestive system. Metal, plastics and other material acts quite differently when it comes to their corrosion when exposed to digestive enzymes or acids. On top of that there would have been traces of biological material left on the devices if it had passed through a digestive system that would have been able to eat a 9' shark. • The video misses the fact that bigger sea creatures generates a LOT more heat internally than smaller creatures. In fact, even cold blooded squids generate noticeable heat when they apply forces with their tentacles. It's the principle of generative forces after all like when you press a rock, that rock will heat up. Hence whales, for example, while they maintains an average temperature of 96.8 degree F (36 degrees Celsius), they actually generate a MUCH bigger temperature as it's not the temperature generated by their body, but the result of the environmental temperature AND their body heat fused together. One of the main source of heat for aquatic creature is their digestive system. That thing generates a lot of heat when it "moves" the digested food through its track with peristalsis. That ~29C temperature could actually be the kind of heat you could find in the digestive track of a giant squid while it's actively pressuring and digesting something as huge as a big shark. It's also possible that the shark was crushed by a giant squid and then the tag was eaten by a different smaller sea animal (like a killer whale or another shark) that would have come toward the "remains" left by the squid.
8.1 Maths, many of us use Japanese multiplication in place of regular multiplication, as long multiplication, as the name implies, takes longer than Japanese multiplication. Japanese multiplication is a great way for visual learners to multiply, as it uses lines and fewer numbers. Let's use 12×32 as an example. Keep in mind that place value is used to represent numbers: 32 is three tens and two ones, while 12 is one ten and two ones. The tens are then represented by diagonal lines, while the ones are represented by additional parallel lines that are drawn after a pause. For the number 12, we so get All we're doing is visualising the well-known place value representation of numbers. Let's try the number 32 now, but let’s go the other way this time. The lines should cross at the corners, leaving you with a rough diamond shape. We only need to count the number of intersections between each line and the diamond to determine the product. The intersections should first be grouped vertically. In other words, create a loop around the junctions that are closest to the left. next, start travelling right. Around the central junctions, draw a loop. Draw a loop around the junctions closest to the right side to finish (where the green and red lines intersect). What you've actually done is determined how many hundreds, tens, and ones are contained in the final product: edit i am not a bot
Who’s to say the whole shark was eaten? Hawks who have trackers have known to get trackers off. With a shark could it be possible it popped off in the chase them was eaten, or only lost the dorsal fin with the tag?
I honestly think an orca killed the shark, ripped out its liver as they do often. Great white liver is an orcas favourite meal. Then other sharks scavenged the remains, another great white ate the part that had the tag. They are warm blooded. That’s what happened folks no matter how much you want it to be a a Megladon. 😝 🦈
i have witnessed a 60 megaldon twice in the bay of baja californa. both times I had a woman with me. These two events occured at different times. We were on cruise ships and took tours to parasail from a speed boat on Baja Bay, Seeimg the creature from the parasail, and being an engineer, it was easy to calculate the length of the shark at 60 or 65 feet long. The incrdidible thing was the neon green glowing fins the first time and neon blue glowing fins the second time.
I honestly think an orca killed the shark, ripped out its liver as they do often. Great white liver is an orcas favourite meal. Then other sharks scavenged the remains, another great white ate the part that had the tag. They are warm blooded. That’s what happened folks no matter how much you want it to be a a Megladon. 😝 🦈
The Livyatan Melvillei , commonly known as The Leviathan, was known to be the only marine beast to compete with the Megalodon in terms of food. It also was confirmed by scientists that it's bite force could rival that of The Megalodon. In my opinion, it is the most likely candidate. Great video as always and keep up the good work. It is why I subscribed.
Except, ofc, there's that pesky "they've been extinct for over 9 million years" thing. Nothing that huge would have gone undetected in our modern age, especially if it was said to havve come up and grabbed the shark.
@@jacobyrassilon Good point.However,Be Amazed himself said that some creatures could have evolved. Maybe the reason that no one has seen it is because it evolved. But then again any candidate Amazed mentioned also could have evolved.We'll never completely know what actually devoured Alpha.
The Ancient Livyatan whale aka the Mevillei a relative of the modern day Sperm Whale was believed to be a surface hunter preying on small and medium sized baleen whales.
@@jacobyrassilon true that if the Livyatan still existed we have known for sure it was just as large as a modern day Sperm Whale and it hunted small and medium sized baleen whales. We would have know from all the whale carcasses.
Alpha could have dived to avoid the predator. But how fast was the tag's dive? Could it simply have fallen off and been mistakingly swallowed by a small fish and then spat out, as another marine biologist suggested at one point? How long did it record that particular temperature? Does it look partially melted by passing through a digestive system or does it look as if it was immediately spat out?
No,if you watch the actual documentary, it explains that the tracking device had been eaten by stomach acids. The temperature change was entirely too rapid to have just fallen off. It was an immediate temperature, then an accelerated dive. The shark was eaten whole
@@grownman1017 The predator climbed to grab her, then went back down to its dwelling spots? So... not a great white, but a match for its internal temperature? To summarize: wait, it's not dozens of millions of years, it's actually ten thousand years; uhm, actually,... the climate ten thousand years ago was quite pleasant....
@@glimmeredgloom not sure where you were going with this....but what I was saying is, when it's tracking device was recovered, it had be corroded by acid. The tracking device showed the shark wearing said device was swimming along, then the device showed a temperature Spike, then a rapid dive, a dive far deeper than normal depths for sharks of this species. There are numerous speculations of what could have eaten an entire 9ft shark at once, but only time will tell. But while we are on the subject, let's be very clear, science knows more about the surface of Mars than what they know about our oceans. Science has been grotesquely wrong in the past about creatures once thought to be extinct for "millions" of years, only to discover not one but an entire breeding population, like in the case of the celocanth.
Dive with them . They are SO SO very graceful. When relaxed, they are so graceful and peaceful. The "scary" factor is quickly forgotten in my experience.
Something which always bugged me about the dinosaurs being, allegedly, wiped out by a meteor strike, was the sea dwelling dinosaurs dying out, too, whereas sharks and whales just continued on? It doesn’t add up.
@@captainbrooks oh? You’ve never heard of the Plesiosaur, or the Ichthyosaur, or the Basilosaurus? The latter was a type of whale, FYI. It cracks me up when people try to be snarky, only to expose themselves as intellectual frauds.
@@captainbrooks I can accept the loss of larger predators, but not all species were enormous, nor were they all surface dwellers, hence the Megalodon surviving until about 100,000 years ago (speculative). This has been a very enjoyable exchange, Cap.
Fun fact via my old wooden boat builder father, fiberglass isn't waterproof. The only thing preventing water from getting in is the paint. A little scary when you think about it. Actually Alpha shark was female, could it be that the giant shark tried to mate with the female? It was too big, its jaws crushed it when it clamped on to mate. Thats my theory.
The deepest area of the ocean is the Challenger Deep, located at the southern end of the Mariana Trench. Recorded depth is 10,902-10,929 meters, or 35,755 to 35,853 feet. The first manned craft to descend to the bottom was an Italian research bathyscaphe named Trieste, on January 23, 1960. It was piloted by Swiss oceanographer Jacques Piccard and US Navy Lieutenant Don Walsh. Manned descents 1960: Trieste (Jacques Piccard, Don Walsh), 35,814 feet 2012: Deepsea Challenger (James Cameron), 35,787 feet 2019: DSV Limiting Factor (Victor Vesovo), 35,853 feet Unmanned descents 1996: Kaikō, 35,784 feet 2008: ABISMO, 33,655 feet 2009: Nereus, 35,768 feet 2018: Haidou-1, 35,325 feet
An undiscovered creature hypothetically indeed can exist in the area of the incident, but it certainly couldn't be one great enough to consume a great white shark. If a creature of such a great size did exist at those depths ( based on the assumption it isn't an undiscovered giant squid ) one most likely would have been discovered beached and deceased from a Giant Squid attack, as we know there live around that area as well.
Hi, there! I enjoyed this video. I noticed a couple of issues. It was already determined that it couldn't have been a cold-blooded animal like a squid, so how could it have been a cold-blooded animal like a shark? Additionally, a great white shark (even though they're most likely too cold) that's 16' doesn't necessarily mean it would have had giganticism. Female great white sharks have been known to be over 20 feet long. I don't see how a pack of killer whales/orcas couldn't have done it. Just my 2 cents.
Appearently white sharks are endothermic which means it's partially warm blooded and can control it's internal temperature which helps it to be a more active predator in cold waters.
There’s more to the story. One it was a Tiger Shark tagged. Two the temp matched that of a Great White and three the tag went further then 1600 feet down. Great Whites are known for staying around 3000 feet deep and even further with the deepest I believe was at almost 6000 feet. They also found the shark they originally tagged alive because it had the same exact scaring and I believe they tagged the fin for identification. This guy botched the entire story up.
16-18ft is a regularly attainable size for great whites, provided they live long enough. Some fishermen have claimed to see whites that were longer than their 20 foot boats too. So odds are there are beasts out there quite capable of swallowing down a 9ft shark. Not so irregular I think.
@@karencourt5684 that is not an oddity, the bigger ones go deeper, and sharks grow until they die, so 28 feet is big, but they can get bigger, wish you got some camera footage of it, hehe
I imagine it was a Great White, but it doesn’t have to been an enormous, Great White. It could have been a Great White shark that just bit off the dorsal fin of the 9ft Great White to help incapicate it and then swallowed the fin.
I honestly think an orca killed the shark, ripped out its liver as they do often. Great white liver is an orcas favourite meal. Then other sharks scavenged the remains, another great white ate the part that had the tag. They are warm blooded. That’s what happened folks no matter how much you want it to be a a Megladon. 😝 🦈
Kieran, Orcas don't do it often. Only orcas from 3 pods have been documented attacking great whites and only certain orcas within those pods. 99.9% of orcas don't attack great whites. It wasn't recorded until 1997 and then it was another 20 years until it was recorded again.
@@richmax8486 the most muscular sea creatures: Atlantic mackerel - 3.8 kg of pure muscle, 10% body fat mahi mahi - 13 kg of pure muscle, 5% body fat great barracuda - 23 kg of pure muscle, 10% body fat king mackerel - 45 kg of pure muscle, 5% body fat spinner dolphin - 79 kg of pure muscle, 5% body fat white marlin - 82.5 kg of pure muscle, 5% body fat bull shark - 130 kg of pure muscle, 5% body fat Atlantic bluefin tuna - 150 kg of pure muscle, 5% body fat common dolphin - 150 kg of pure muscle, 5% body fat sand tiger shark - 159 kg of pure muscle, 5% body fat striped dolphin - 160 kg of pure muscle, 5% body fat Pacific white sided dolphin - 200 kg of pure muscle, 5% body fat Fraser's dolphin - 200 kg of pure muscle, 5% body fat yellowfin tuna - 180 kg of pure muscle, 5% body fat striped marlin - 220 kg of pure muscle, 5% body fat great hammerhead shark - 230 kg of pure muscle, 5% body fat bottlenose dolphin - 300 kg of pure muscle, 5% body fat Pacific bluefin tuna - 450 kg of pure muscle, 5% body fat tiger shark - 635 kg of pure muscle, 5% body fat swordfish - 650 kg of pure muscle, 5% body fat black marlin - 750 kg of pure muscle, 5% body fat great white shark - 1.800 kg of pure muscle, 5% body fat killer whale - 5.442 kg of pure muscle, 5% body fat
There is actually much more evidence of a great flood that killed the dinosaurs than a meteor. That makes a giant predator possible. That also makes all the shark tracking data make sense.
Yes, after the meteor strike, a great tsunami occurred. That was because of the meteors impact shift it created deep in the earth. If the dinosaurs survived the meteor strike, they would later be killed off by said tsunami. This is why we have such great fossils that tell us what happened. Fossilization can only occur if the body was submerged in water, then the layers upon layers of soil, rock, etc. If dinosaurs were to survive that, they would have to deal with 10 years of no sunlight, killing off plants, omnivores (ornithisichians), then eventually the carnivores (theropods). The inlet dinosaurs that did survive were the ones that could fly, which is why birds are the direct descendants of dinosaurs. Sea dinosaurs could only survive if they were able to stay out of the acid polluted waters.
@@Fierysaint1 Ah, yes. Rookie mistake, lol. It was 100% a comet.There is definitely a distinct difference between the two. Thank you for the correction mate!
Shut up there is only second hand evidence of a flood. We can literally see the astroid crater that killed the dinosaurs so shut up and talk about your religous bullshit elsewhere. Go back to school i remember getting taught to never believe a secondary source in school you should have learnt the same.
The great white could've been eaten by a group of sharks. It happens all the time. And since there were so many in the death valley, it could've easily been swarmed.
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Hey I remember this story. Thanks for bringing it back. What ever killed the shark didn't have to swallow it whole, it just might have just bit off a piece which had the tracker attached to it.
Most likely
But if only cut of that part it can’t have that much accuracy to just leave the tag and it wouldn’t be useful for the predator if it just fit like 1 tiny part
And also it showed that when it was casually swimming something with so much power with sheer determination took it to the deep waters and prob fed on it since all that work for just to let the shark escape ?
You are significantly smarter than they are making the scientists appear to be
If I remember correctly the temperature changes that the tag read led them to believe it wasn't just the piece with the tag on it.
I and a friend were surfing in the early 1970's at Clifford Bay NZ. We had "long boards", not the skimpy little things you see these days. I think my board was 8 foot. Anyway, we were lying on the boards paddling out to a point break about 300 metres offshore on a dull overcast summers day. Suddenly my mate sat up on his board, turned, was on his knees and paddling back past me to shore and as he went by, he quietly said "shark". I didn't really comprehend his message and I dozily raised myself up on the board to look eyeball to eyeball with a huge Great White [he looked to be twice the size of my board - but hey, it was big]. I froze and watched him as he watched me and he gracefully moved without any effort, through the crystal clear water about a board length in front of me. We kept eye contact until he got so far across from me that he flicked his eye back to the front and continued his quest for fish that may have been disoriently by the surf - so I presumed. I got up on my knees and paddled that board right up onto the beach! We opened a couple of bottles of beers and drank them down with the froth we had made from our shaking hands!. I haven't been surfing since then; in my 70's now and don't think I ever will be back on a board! When you see just how powerful these creatures are, how with only muscle rippling they can move through the water, you realise that you are in their domain and there at their pleasure.
I watched them from a boat eating a dead whale about 6 km off sth Australia shore and you’re right they move through the water effortlessly and gracefully. People naturally try to out swim sharks as a natural reaction but we are wasting our time. It’s impossible.😂
My dad's board in the late 60's was 8 feet long, made entirely of wood and weighed at least 60 Lbs! Was your board anything like THAT??
Cool story.. I love the water but Jaws affected me in going out far in ocean water. I live in Maine and a woman was eaten right off shore in front of her daughter as they swam in York Maine. It was a 17 foot great white
if that was spotted in china or vietnam, we would of brought it to the shore and have a bbq in 30 minutes
Water is connected to sharks.
"There's always a bigger fish."
-Qui-Gon Jinn
So true 👍
Not always.
"A big fish is caught with big bait"
-Sun Tzu, The Art of War
The impetus for Racism
Exactly
The tagged shark Alpha was 2,7 meters long (9 feet), which is less than half the size of the largest great white shark ever recorded (7 meters/23,5 feet).
Sharks are famously opportunists and can perfectly well decide to be cannibalistic if hungry enough.
They can also dive very deep, especially larger specimens dive to lower depths than the smaller ones.
To reiterate the size difference between the tagged female and the largest recorded great white;
Shark Alpha was half a meter (2,7 feet) longer than André the Giant, and the largest specimen was 1,2 meters or four feet and change longer than the tallest giraffe recorded (George, at 5,8 meters/19 feet)
Notice he calls it "the giant shark" near the beginning too. This majorly detracts credibility.
yards...
Actually ..the largest shark on record is a 21 footer caught off of Sicily ...
Even at that size it wouldn't have the bite size to take the dorsal fin from either end or below..
No air breather can dive or survive that deep and nothing from that depth would feed at the surface...
So it's still a mystery that needs solving ...
the largest great white shark ever recorded and confirmed is 19 ft. That 7m 23ft sighting is uncomfirmed
2.7 feet is 0.82 meter not 0.50. kinda not half a meter at all. More around ¾.
"How much misinformation and fearmongering would you like me to add?"
*_"YES"_*
Nooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooo
epic comment ! pretty much sums it up and yeah the ocean is huge WE DONT KNOW SQUAT.
Fear mongering or not a billionaire Asian who was a
gene scientist was turned in for having a secret massive tank built under his mansion. And he was said to have re-create a meg!!
The video was great though, wouldn't have been nearly as fun if he was just like "Big shark ate small shark"
Go watch a scientific channel if you want no fluff or storytelling and only want sentences that are facts after facts. Sheesh.
Around Australia and Guadalupe Island most of the great whites that are tagged tend to be between 11 and 18 feet in length so a 17 ft great white seems less likely to have gigantism and more likely to be an adult of average size. Shark Alpha was just a very unlucky juvenile.
Agreed. Hell, the longest ones are in the 20-25 foot range.
@@o-mangaming5042 😊ul
@@o-mangaming5042 And that's what we've caught and formally documented (though rarely). ocean life being what it is today, it's safe to say almost all species had larger specimens 100 yrs ago or more. Heck, even 50 yrs ago.
That all adds up to there is (or has been recently) larger white sharks than "only" 7 meters.
I didn[t like how narrator called the 9ft great white as "huge" that's not even avg, bud! Then again, I say that from the comfort of my very dry office hundreds of miles from the ocean and probably 1000 miles from the nearest white shark
why did they bother tagging the 9’er ? had’nt heard of that seeming waste of time since that size of fish are likely to become edibles’ rather than the (larger ones) providing migration Data !!
@@thomasmacginnes100 I think it’s cause they happened along a swarm of sharks and were tagging as many as they could to get as much data as possible. The swarm wasn’t too far off the shore because they were attracted to the whale carcasses, and so they were easier to tag. That’s just my guess though.
A 16 foot Great White is not exactly abnormal, Great Whites are known to grow up to 20' in length. Granted, 20 footers are very uncommon these days because they've been hunted so heavily in the past, thanks in no small part to the movie Jaws, but they can grow that large. So a 16 footer, while quite large for a Great White these days, is hardly anything abnormal.
well said, true
Some years back off the coast of Australia, a great white was hauled in from a shark net. Prob 4m or so IIRC. Poor shark was dead cos a huge bite had been taken out of it. Half metre jaw diameter, which equates to a 6.5-7m great white. So there's at least 1 out there
Deep Blue as they named a huge female Great White is around 24 feet long or 7+ meters. I live in South Australia and have been seeing Whites here since I was 4 years old, i'm over 60 now and I can assure you 18 footers have been seen often here with some sightings of 20+ feet recorded. I've had an easy 18 footer come up to our boat while snapper fishing with my father in the 1960s which was the length of our boat which was 18 feet. Numerous others saw the same shark which attacked a couple of the other boats
@@Antipodean33 No deep blue is estimated to be 20-21 feet long
@@Antipodean33people forget that female shark exist and it's a living fossil of a beast
This is like a movie project that was sent to Netflix and stretched to 12 episodes.
Lmao gotta fill that runtime somehow
Then go watch something else and quit complaining
I've seen a 9 foot shark attacked by a 12 foot shark, then get chewed to pieces by 6 others after being incapacitated by the first big bite. I've seen feeding frenzies with several different predators competing for pieces of the victim. Perhaps a giant squid grabbed the shark & dove with it, as they would, then some other sharks followed it down to try to get a piece of the pie, and one of them ended up with the tracker.
But is there anything in the ocean that warm other than marine mammals? fish arent' THAT much warmer than surround ambient water temp are they? Don['t tell me they're the same as ambient bc sea turtles are warmer than ambient (when in cold waters) at least that's what the world's foremost leatherback expert told me in person in costa rica one beautiful starlit night 18 yrs ago
That still does not explain the internal temperature issues of the tag reading
That also does not explain why that bigly squid would make the shark into a pie.
@@thomaswu9094 thermal vents effect maybe
I had a stroke reading that
How about a naturally occurring Sperm Whale? Not the certainly-extinct Melvillei but a very large modern specimen. I have heard that they can dive to very great depths and feed on Colossal Squid. Also, did anyone test the tag for DNA? Good presentation by the way.
I agree. Sperm whales have been known to feed on sharks.
Makes sense good job
Makes sense too
It was a larger great white that ate it.
@@normacunningham8913 it doesn’t have to me
If you want to jump to the answer, it starts at 25:05.
All that comes before is, in my opinion, interesting but far too long drawn out.
Thanks bro.
Thank you!
THNX
Ty
thanks!
never been so thankful for the "most replayed" timeline thing.
Maybe is was that black demon shark that has been reported quite a few tine now.
Fun fact: There is a well known case of sharks disapearing from a big ocean tank expo. The keepers thaught that bigger sharks/predators were eating them but they could not prove it and couldnt cut them open either. So they kept their vigil and eventually caught the culprit. The big pride of the tank a huge octopus had developed a taste for shark. It hunted from them at night and then dragged them back to his hole to gobbled them up.
Wasn't that just a whale shark?
What about great blue the female 20 foot shark great white shark she is about 80 years old
Depending on how the tracker was attached to the fin, I believe that whatever creature attacked the shark, resulted in the tracking device detaching from the shark ( along with a chunk of the dorsal fin and falling into an underwater vent of some sort and rising in temperature, before floating to the surface after the flesh it was attached to was either; melted, eaten, or the tag somehow became removed in which it floated to the surface. I'm not sure how plausible that is but let me know what you think, is this a plausible theory?
Edit: Nevermind I just found out the video just takes 25 minutes to tell you what actually happened...
Studies of white sharks in the gulf in the gulf found that they maintain a constant body temperature of about 26.5°C (almost 80°F). Was a larger great white or a Tiger.
5 minutes actually
No it didn’t. It was just another theory. A great white with gigantism ? And then quickly diving to 1,900 feet ? Why do that ?
@@lisacolbert5987 Couldn't handle swimming when it had the added weight of a second great white shark in it???
@@lisacolbert5987 To drown it most likely - as stupid as it sounds drad a shark in reverse and it will drown
14-16ft is a normal size of a Great White they are considered big after that , The largest recorded was 23 ft with 20 ft GWs seen regularly 50 years ago now they are very rare.
The biggest was actually 36 feet I did research
Those reports about 36' and 37' sharks from 1870 in Australia and 1930's in Canada are widely considered unreliable. The largest shark reliably measured is a female named Great Blue and she's just over 20 feet
@@drest.patrick6016there was a man in South Africa who was devoured by a huge shark, witnesses said it was dinosaur huge. You never know what’s out there and just because a large shark isn’t common, doesn’t mean it isn’t possible
Soo, take what seems like a fantastic, mysterious riddle and turn it into a 30 minute story filled with crazy theories about a "Jurassic Park" type explanation is certainly ONE way to go...
I think the technical term is shaggy dog story
I love how the title says this incident is finally solved, while the show itself covers a variety of possible explanations... all of which are based on relatively little actual evidence.
Makes for an interesting video... I'll give 'em that!
So annoying when they do that!
Yessss. We should all know by now the uploaders goal is for you and I to. CLICK ON THE VIDEO . If you don't have any fresh content cooked up then you probably bring up an old topic and adding a lie like " finally solved " . Are you surprised? If we steelhead thumbs-up and thumbs-down ratios showing on the video thumbnails where you can see what percentage of people gave a thumbs up I guarantee you we would have known it was a lie because we would have seen a lot of thumbs down
I love how you can take what seems like a simple question and trace it back to show how what seems simple turns out to be quite complex. Best of all, you make it quite entertaining.
Yes, they make it entertaining by using incorrect and exaggerated statements.
I love how you can take what seems like a simple question and and regurgitate every conspiracy theory about the ocean
It had been "Jaws", God dammit.
That means they're full of shit dude.
@stinkbug4321 don't use the Lord's name in vain like that
Whoever narrated this has the most amazing and fun and calming voice ever. I listen to a lot of ghost stories, etc. I wish he would narrate some. He could almost rival Natures Temper! Great job Dude!!!!
Too true
It's truly surprising; nothing seems impossible in this world. Thank you for sharing this information.
A long time ago I vowed never to swim in the ocean. As soon as you enter the water you become part of the food chain.
On thing I won’t do been to the beach no swimming though
Same here. Ocean equals death.
It’s far more dangerous to get in a car
@@jonnytlong that argument is BS
@@BillyJ244 how do you figure that? I’m 52 and have surfed since I was five. I’ve only met someone who was bit once and that was when he was fishing and was a tiny scar. The ocean is probably more safe than staying in your house. It would be nice if everyone thought like you and stayed out though, now that I think of it. No clueless tourists in the way would be great.
The idea of a massive cannibal shark is as equally terrifying as an unknown creature.
If anything this has shown a new behavior pattern for a specific population of great whites. As for the larger shark plummeting to deep depths to eat the shark, lots of great white attacks on people have a resulted in the sharks dragging the victim to the bottom and tearing the person to pieces on the seafloor.
This occurred in that horrific attack in Tasmania where the father/daughter duo we're diving for scallops. When the father failed to surface, she dove down look for him and saw a great white pinning him to the seafloor tearing him up.
Sharks either impact from below, or rapidly descend when they capture prey to disorient prey.
the pinning is common for sharks because it gives them leverage and they can hold the victim whilst attacking versus pushing on the victim inadvertently while killing and/or consuming and the prey is pushed further from them - a horrific example
Omg Way to brighten someone's day my dude 👍 I bet yer just a riot at parties f#&k! I can't imagine the ptsd that poor girl developed. JESUS CHRIST! I can grantee she never set foot in water or even on a boat again. As much as i love the beach I would have moved to the desert.
all sharks are cannibals
This does not show any new behavior pattern for a specific population of great whites at all....
The depth the tag changed temp at was not that deep. They said later they have been recorded as deep as 4k
GW attacks are not common and you have no way of recording or showing recordings of the behavior that you are saying is common. Going to the bottom of the ocean to eat there... you are making that up
Scallops are shallow water animals so they were relatively shallow which is why the story went that way. Whites bite and thrash if the object is large (whales) or they bite and shake to get a mouthful as their teeth are not meant to chew by crushing.
This event is not endemic of all GW attacks
Sharks dive to get away from other sharks the same reason predatory animals on land grab something and try to run off with it. As not to share
When you weren't just assuming things you were either making them up and asserting them as scientifically proven fact or repeating something someone else said that you are now asserting as fact
A 16 ft great white is not even really big for a great white.
Fish are cannibalistic by nature.
Not sure why 16 feet is somehow a "super shark" it is a large white shark, but 16 to 20 feet or so is far from unheard of. The largest female I believe was around 21 feet and incredibly heavy bodies at almost 2 ton. That would make it twice as long as probably about 3 to 4 times heavier than the shark that was eaten. Also it could have just taken a large bite from the smaller shark swallowing the tracker then diving down. Not really that crazy.
Exactly.
Can we get all your teachers/past teaches together to celeb this man
You my friend are swag😎
Celebrate
I'm not sure why its natural for people to want crazy theories to be true, I guess they bored.
My thoughts exactly 😊
So after all the rambling, they still do not know what exactly ate the shark lmfao.
I didnt think they would
LMAO
The mountains, caves, valleys, hills, the terrain, of unexplored ocean floors is way bigger then anything we have of dry land. It's crazy!!!!!
It is, but it's more crazy that our planet was once covered by nothing but water.
Just a minor point. Even if the squid was cold blooded, would the chemical reactions from digestion cause the stomach temp be higher??? Has this been tested??
My wife's exact question. Lol
It's actually a good theory, but come to think of it, the temperature found would be too high for any chemical compound to produce in such a large body of ocean water. The culprit creature would need to have a very thick body and guts(insulation), covering its "hot" digestion system, to keep such high temperature in an immeasurable body of freezing ocean water and depth. An orca would fit de description better, even a bigger great white, but I still have my doubts
Giant squid have a beak that it eats with it doesn’t swallow its food in big bites so it definitely wasn’t a squid.
Killer whales eat sharks
No one said that the shark had to be eating whole or the tag had to be eaten in one bite
But a giant octopus eat sharks to even a killer whale will lose from a gain octopus a giant octopus van will be 33 feet long/larsed bigger than the killer whale/Orca
but a giant octopus van eat sharks too and even a killer whale orca's can lose from a gained octopus a giant octopus van well be 33 feet long and eat different whales even the Orca/killer whales
The problem is that killer whales can only be underwater for around 14 minutes before they need to surface, and they rarely dive deeper than 1000 feet
It could have been an appetizer.
Largest octopus is the Pacific octopus,they are no where near 30 ft and could not prey on orcas.Giant and colossal squid are quite a bit larger but still don't prey on orcas
I'm sticking with Orca. Because the readings came back that the tag was dragged to that depth at a warm temperature we assume the whole shark was with it. As we know from the beginning of the video the shark was tagged on the back of It's dorsal fin. That means an Orca could've easily taken a chunk out of it. They're also a creature known to waste their food. I watched three chase a mum and baby whale for over three hours ( David Attenborough ) only to eat the baby's jaw and f*ck off like a bunch of pr*cks lol. They also use penguins for sport and eat very little of them after they're done. I'll wait for further evidence but my money's still on the Orcas being the culprit for this one 🤷♀
Orcas go after the dorsal? That doesn't seem logical. They generally grab a pectoral when upside down and flip it end to end they are so frikken strong! At least that's what's been documented. They then hold it until the shark drowns then gobble up the liver. they don't appear to actually eat anything else just the liver.
yeah i wouldnt put any stock in information supplied by the same govt that used 9/11 to bomb themselves and blames afghan or sinks the Titanic but hey the Rothchilds got off right before right, or the govt that claims their president died to a magic bullet, or that sub that randomly went explodey
The temperature of the tracker was too high for it to have been consumed by an orca, and for it to of been wasted and dropped to the ocean floor
If you’re diving deeper it doesn’t get warmer. The only explanation is a belly of an animal. Orcas don’t dive that deep either. I will say this. We have no idea what’s on this planet. Everything hasn’t been explored and species they claim has been extinct is found live and well
@SMG6- orcas hunt in packs.
I had read that great white sharks average about 18 feet, so I'm not sure why a great white shark with gigantism would only measure 16 feet. 🤔
Going back to the question on whether squids eat sharks frequently or not, based on the fact that we only got either one or very few occurances of sharks alive from squid attacks, I can assume that there are 2 possibilities. 1. Squids rarely attack sharks, and if they did it would be for self defense, thats why we only find a few attacks. 2. Squids frequently eat sharks and they are so efficient at killing them that almost none make it out alive.
Id say 2 it would be pretty common i think squid would eat anything considering they fight sperm whales
Try to think how practical it would really be for a squid (even a really big one) to kill a shark, all they've got are tentacles and a beak. A squid could wrap a shark up with its tentacles but what good is that going to do? The shark weighs more, is significantly more powerful and can't be choked/restrained. The beak of squid/octopus are pretty strong but they're not exactly designed for doing lethal damage to a large shark, sharks are exceptionally hard to kill so unless that beak is big enough to bite a shark in half it's just not going to be practical for a quick kill.
@@DjDolHaus86 shark could rip tentacles off to
@@DjDolHaus86 No, squid/giant squid, are really vicious when they hunt. It's also not like a sword fight where it's a clash of tentacles and shark teeth; squid grab onto their prey with these barbed tentacles and drag them down to the depths, cutting and lashing them with tentacles and beak and killing anything that needs to breathe at the surface or that needs to move to breathe. I think you are overestimating the shark's defenses and underestimating how predatory and scary everything else in the ocean is. It's kinda like with how people think the karate masters will be able to beat these UFC guys, but the UFC guys are usually just way bigger and destroy them.
I think the problem would be squids big enough to eat sharks lives in a depth where great white and most sharks don't swim at. So I don't think squids would often hunt them
Penguins! Giant, mutant penguins ate the shark! That MUST be it.
Penguins giant mutant penguins?? 🤨🤨🤨🙄🙄 not funny
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You seem to forget the shark might not have been eaten at all, but only had a chunk taken out by the fin, thereby the tracker was ingested with 20 pounds of shark bite. The sensor could have been regurgitated soon after and not gone through the stomach.
But why did the shark waited until it dived that deep down before eating “just the fin”. The video said that the shark ate the alpha shark only after it dived deep deep down
27:16
The body temperature is one of the best clues. I would have liked Orcas as a hypothesis, but they are too warm. A very large great white was another possibility because unlike many fish the great white can run slightly warmer than its surroundings. But, not that warm.
Actually, the recorded temperature matches that of a white shark's stomach. They have an average stomach temp. of 26°C.
@@miniscool5613
So meaning a bigger Great White. Could have finished off Shark Alpha. Only one shark could fit that description. No other then the legendary Submarine. A larger Great White shark very intelligent one at that. Then again Submarine must be dead by now.
Orcas usually only eat the livers, they don't normally eat any other bits.
@@miniscool5613
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The first time I ever heard this "mystery" presented, I thought that the shark itself did not need to be eaten, it just had to be something that took a bite where the tracker was located. Like many internet mysteries it has been way overblown and pseudoscienced to death.
You have a point there
a video truly worth my time
Very interesting video. Makes you think of the possibilities of what is lurking in the unexplored depths of our oceans.
Could be a mosasaur because they were real millions of years ago but 80% of the ocean hasn't been explored so it could've been anything for all we know
I honestly think an orca killed the shark, ripped out its liver as they do often. Great white liver is an orcas favourite meal. Then other sharks scavenged the remains, another great white ate the part that had the tag. They are warm blooded. That’s what happened folks no matter how much you want it to be a a Megladon. 😝 🦈
@@kieranhart5776 bro shut up please, no one asked you.
Also, then how did it end up 1900 feet below the deep ocean? That can’t be the explanation.
Maybe an Archelon? They would have been big enough to eat a 9 foot great white and since it was a enormous sea turtle there's a possibility it was carnivorous
In WWII there was a British ship that threw out some depth charges and had a crazy "alligator looking" specimen float up to the top (killed by the charges) & which was verified by a ton of the crew who saw it. I think it's definitely still out there, whatever it was. Not to mention salt water crocodiles, which get Enormous, are known to live out at sea.
how about this. giant squid grabs a shark and does a rapid deep dive to a warm seabed vent where it chows down at leisure.
South West of Western Australia is over 1100km from the range of the estuarine (salt water) crocodile. There's no way a cold blooded tropical reptile could survive in the freezing southern ocean around Esperance or Albany W.A, the region where this shark was killed. My money as a former local would be on a much bigger great white (3 meters is barely an adult) or an Orca.
@@Some1inFNQ my money is on an Orca, but that's not nearly as exciting or imaginative as some unknown alligator-like sea beast 😂
MOSASAURUS
But crocs breath air & can't dive that deep. Idk I say still unsolved.
Alternatively, the tracker could have been bitten off by another shark during a feeding session and then Alpha was torn apart in a blood frenzy. That's not unheard of either.
Also, I have no doubt that certain 'archaic' creatures live in the depths of the ocean. Like the dude said, 80% of it remains unexplored. Humans are only apex on land, and are just another prey creature in the water.
Btw, _"blood frenzy"_ is *such* a disturbing descriptor, extremely chilling...🥶
If the shark is being digested by a stomach acid that might raise the temperature. It should not be that difficult to find out what kind of stomach acid other squids have and see if digesting shark meat would raise the temperature like that.
we watched this as part of our home schooling on friday and my six year old has asked to watch it every day since then. i am not exaggerating. (to be fair, it’s only sunday. but i know when my child is starting a trend…) anyway, your voice is incredibly soothing to listen to and i just want to express my appreciation for the fact that, if i’m going to have to listen to this video at LEAST daily (and possibly multiple times daily), at least it’s rather pleasant to listen to.
when i have it memorized, i’ll do a lip sync reaction video to it. 😜
just wanted to update. it’s tuesday. little one is still watching this every day. today we have watched it twice.
WE ARE STILL WATCHING THIS. WE ARE UP TO A MINIMUM OF TWICE A DAY. I KNOW THESE COMMENTS WON’T BE SEEN FOR 13 YEARS. I JUST WANT THOSE FUTURE VIEWERS TO KNOW I AM SURVIVING.
If only school was this interesting during the long boring, wasted years of my youth.
Honestly, the fact remains that this could have also just been the Top Dorsal Fin where the tracking device was attached, just bitten off instead of the entire Shark itself actually eaten whole.. the fact that something much larger exists is in fact possible and I do believe there actually is. My opinion is the tracking device and Dorsal Fin Portion was the only portion in fact eaten by perhaps another shark in warmer waters at surface level before submerging to the depths before its body temp cooled, or an unknown warm blooded undiscovered creature... ;-) just another possibility ;-)
yep its probably whats the case or similar it unattached somehow
as cool as it is too imagine a huge monster consuming a shark whole is
thats just it, cool
would also be cool to be wrong
More likely a propeller ripped it off and it got untangled, then It fell to the bottom where it was eaten before being vomited out
Nope
That doesn't account for the lack of temperature change in the monitor
@Ghost Malone fair point, perhaps it could have been to it not reading it properly.
Bruh
Those tags are designed to float when they come off, sinking isn't an option. And sharks don't generally get hit by boat propellers or ship screws.
The latest theories about Livyatan Melvillei going extinct actually have to do with their *prey* going extinct. They were thought to prey primarily on smaller warm-blooded whales, the precursors of our baleen whales. These in turn depended on widely scattered, abundant patches of krill in the warm waters they swam in, and right behind them were Megalodon and Livyatan Melvillei.
But when the waters turned cold, the krill these small whales depended on began to gather in much colder waters, and concentrate. Big whales - VERY big whales - had the insulation necessary to survive those cold waters, the giant mouths to take large batches of krill, and most importantly they could fast for a good part of the year - the small whales could not. So the little guys went extinct because they couldn't handle the changed patterns of their prey. What took their place, the ancestors of giants like Right Whales, Bowhead Whales, and Blue Whales, were far too big for even these mega-predators to eat. One slap of the flukes of a Blue Whale would be enough to fatally damage even a Megalodon or Livyatan. And so when the little whales went, so did Megalodon and Livyatan Melvillei, starved to extinction by the loss of their primary prey.
This was an Excellent video ! Thank you for sharing !! I really enjoy your humor, Great job !
Btw a 16’ white isn’t nearly as big as they get. They grow to 23’ very common
Yes, lots of examples of great whites over 16ft. All females given the chance will grow larger than 16ft.
16 ft is common, but 23 feet is the maximum size estimated. Since the largest shark ever measured was 21 ft, a 20 ft Great white is pretty rare guys.
But tbh i do beleive that if it git eaten by a
Shark, that thing would be at least 23 feet and may be even bigger.
Yeah back in 1970s there wasn't a lot of huge Great White because of no protection species but because of that, Great Whites have rebounded and they are surviving to greater age and 20ft. isn't that rare!
Yeah Deep Blue is supposedly the largest recorded and video recorded on several occasions now. Think she's just over 20 foot. But yeah a 15+ foot would definitely take down a 9 foot no problem.
Around 40 years ago, I was having a conversation with a retired fisherman whom at one time had also captained the URI research vessel out of Narraganset RI. I asked him what the strangest thing he had ever brought up in his nets was. He initially told me left over torpedoes and such from WWII. There is still a sunken U-boat off block island to this day. So, I said to him I was interested in strange sea life. His response was a 25 foot long, 5,000-pound great white shark came up in his net once. It was 1 mile off Charlestown beach in RI (Block Island sound). At that time, I didn't know that great whites usually didn't exceed 16 feet. After all I grew up with Jaws lol. All these years later I hear about megalodon and ever since I cannot help but be suspicious that he had in fact caught a young megalodon. They cut it up and tossed it overboard if I remember correctly because there was no market for that type of fish then. His catching incident happened approximately 80 years ago as it happened about 40 years before he told me the story. He was in his 80's at the time of the conversation. This a true story. It was a pity he hadn't taken a picture of it.
I call bs
This story broke my heart. Are you telling me these guys just killed for nothing and extraordinary animal, maybe the last real megalodon? Damn, we do deserve the worst... Thank you for sharing it, though.
Fun video! By the way, 16 feet in an adult great white isn't gigantism, it's the average size of a fully adult female, though it is very much on the biggest side for males. The largest females have been measured at 20-21 feet. I could see easily how one of the more massive female great whites took Shark Alpha.
Nope
Thank you female great whites are bigger it was a female most likely
Yup.@@truthhurts79
Alpha’s tag sank at a speed of around 130-160km/h, to a depth that sharks really just don’t go without reason.
@@truthhurts79 Yep
If Megalodon was still alive, we would be finding their freshly lost teeth washed up on beaches.
They‘d sink..
@@BassDropper991 Some would wash ashore eventually. It happens with the teeth of other sharks all the time.
Alpha was chased 2x by its killer on 2 different days. The young shark quickly dove deep as it's evasive behavior, but was at last caught in the depth on its second dive.
The killers internal temp was warmer than great whites, but too cold to be a mammal. In fact, the internal temp actually matches up to those of the leatherback sea turtle. But, as we all know, leatherbacks are jellyfish predators and not shark eaters, and even the largest of them would not dare tackling a 9 ft great white. The data showed that after being eaten, the killer stayed up near the surface for 8 days maintaining that temp until the tag was "excreted" from the killers digestive tract.
The 8-day digestive period further proves its not the handiwork of a large shark as sharks digest and excrete their waste in a matter of a couple of days. The 8 day period also matches up to those of the leatherback, therefore, this leads to what some think may be a giant undiscovered species of predatory turtle. I'm not sure if I remembered this correctly, there was a sighting decades ago by a fisherman of a gigantic shell-less looking sea turtle of roughly 38ft in length, and I believe that witness may have also took a photograph of the creatures head and a bit of the neck sticking out of the water...
I'd like to add that after the tracker was found, the team went out with a sonar equipped boat to look for the culprit in the vicinity and got sonar contact 60+ ft below the boat, an 35ft object swimming slowly.. so at 35ft. It definitely wasn't a great white shark. The size doesn't match, the internal body temp doesn't match.
interesting
First off the Temp of a great white shark is close enough to the tag shown , also white sharks are cold blooded so there body temp will change just based off how much they are moving and the surrounding water. They have data of a core white shark in about the same temp of water at around 80 degrees *F. On top of that since they are a fish there sizes can be far more different then just based off age and any data taken for getting a white shark core temp could be different based off size , where is the data that says that can not be a factor? Then trying to say that a great white only rakes 2 days to complete it's eating and waste cycle does not hold up since they have found a lot of different stuff in sharks stomachs that were in there longer then 2 days , The tracker was made out of materials that a shark stomach is not able to digest the same way they would of things of there normal diet. last the swimming around the same spot for 8 days does not mean anything since if a shark ate something that size it would not be looking for food the next day and was probably just hanging around to digest it's meal and as pointed out in this video or other data that the area is known to have white sharks and we also know that a shark will hang around the spot area for lengths of time.
all hat said your theory is not the craziest I have seen and over the years it has been pointed out while white sharks are apex predator's they have weaknesses that other sea life has figured out to exploit. Large shark for the most part do not mess with dolphins even though you would think they would be an easy meal but dolphins have learned to bash sharks in the gills . These are things that make your theory not impossible but I still think it was just a bigger shark and again the shark being called "big" at 9 feet is not true and a 16 feet white shark is big but they have proven to have come across white sharks that get over 20 feet and while I cannot say for sure it sounds much more likely then a deformed sized turtle that you forget needs to breath air and at most a leatherback is thought to be able to hold it's breathe in cold water for up to 7 hours but only with very vety little movement and it seems like it would be very hard for a turtle to drag a shark down to those depths and eat it without coming up for air within a short time frame.
@@tonysobon4669there is one thing wrong with your theory though sharks won't try and eat another shark unless it was small enough to not pose a threat sharks don't like to waste all their energy with hunting so if it thinks it's pray is too much of a fight and they might lose they won't even bother shark blood also contains a chemical that works like an alarm when exposed to water and it's been studied that the smell of sharks blood makes other sharks in the area scatter and run away so if it did eat the shark it wouldn't just sit around they don't like the smell of the blood with how sharks hunt and act around each other it's unlikely it was another shake that killed it unless it was literally doubled it's size
@@tonysobon4669this is not against your side or ops just something about sharks and orcas
one thing I found funny about this story is how like humans gave generational trauma to most animal species the same is true for orcas
They attack anything even mooses (except humans in the wild) with zero need to eat and kill for fun and is a proven fact that if an orca is near by a shark even great white will stear clear of the area for a while
So the part where it's a heavy shark and orca population is weird as both can be territorial to even their own species not related in orcas case so it's odd that many sharks stay in that area also with the squid at night as a threat it's really puzzling
Wow I never would have thought a 9 foot shark could weigh 2000 lbs ,that’s amazing
The 16ft did. Derp
I like these kinds of videos
I honestly think an orca killed the shark, ripped out its liver as they do often. Great white liver is an orcas favourite meal. Then other sharks scavenged the remains, another great white ate the part that had the tag. They are warm blooded. That’s what happened folks no matter how much you want it to be a a Megladon. 😝 🦈
@@kieranhart5776 it couldn’t have been it was a different temperature remember
@@kieranhart5776 if u think about it an orca does not rip,tear or thrash it's pray it comes up and smashes the prays underside to paralize and eat it + orcas do not go that deep and usually do not sudenly veer away from there feeding places
I really like your content. Fascinating stuff. I have been in the reef tank hobby for over 20 years so my passion is with the ocean.
When the tracker was analyzed, it said that the shark dove very deep, suddenly and abruptly, yet held the same external temperature. Meaning it was probably swallowed whole.
Witch means it is a probity a moasasaur or a megalodon
@@oliverrey4170 Megalodon was a coastal predator not a deep sea one. We would have seen it.
Mosasarus is defo extinct though Monitor Lizards could easily start Mosasaur 2.0 if they wanted to start going back into the ocean.
Or another shark, in an effort to save itself from getting injured itself, blindsided it from above, ripped a chunk off and kept going down. They tag the fin, it doesn't necessarily cover the rest of the body. Or a sperm whale, since they duke it out with Giant Squids a lot and found an easier meal in that shark
@@kieranhart5776 nobody said megladon shut up
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What could also be a reason that shark alpha got draged so deep was because of Water Pressure because a bigger shark could handle greater depths it could weaken the smaller shark Alpha. Just a little thing to consider.
the pressure could have also crushed the tag if that’s true, but good hypothesis nonetheless
It's pretty common knowledge that a 9 foot great white is on the small end and likely a youngish shark. 17 footers are large but not uncommon. The average female is between 12 and 16 feet with Deep Blue being between 19-21 feet. Super fun video but I am reasonably sure gigantism didn't play a role.
Yeah I always felt like these videos try to up play the size of the eaten shark to be to big when besides what you pointed out there are other Sharks that can hit the 20 feet mark.
Is the Megalodon.
Not only are 20ft or more Great white sharks a fairly common sight. But hammer heads and tiger sharks occasionally get 18ft or more.
Exactly. The kid in the video acts like a 16 foot great white is some rare phenomenon lol
Imagine being swallowed by something large enough to consider you plankton..😂
I thought it was a colossal squid, but the cannibal gigantism shark makes a lot of sense. As much as I'd like to hear that there's some new mystery unsolved concerning leviathans of lucid size, I think I'd sleep easier if nothing of the sort existed.
That said...
The ocean always has unsolved mysteries, right?
It didn't have gigantism. Great whites can reach 20 ft in length. 16 ft is average size for females, but they can get bigger without having gigantism. Deep Blue is 20 ft and still doesn't have gigantism.
Wow I had misconception for their size
Still though, if the smallest are 13 ft and the largest are 20 ft, it feels like the larger one would have to have an extra couple meters before being able to devour another and drag it down hundreds of meters through the ocean.
@@theashrebornagain Or it could just bite the chunk of flesh that had the tracker out.
I believe it was a squid, either giant or colossal. I’ve seen sharks with suction cup markings, matching with squid tentacles.
I’ve read people’s comments regarding ocean 🌊 mystery & many known & unknown ocean 🌊 beasts roaming in the deepest parts. 95% of our oceans unexplored, we only explored 5% still haven’t listed all names of ocean marines because of huge numbers of varieties. Now let’s talk about the unknown & unexplored part we never ventured in & what lies near the surface or in deepest part. As u know ? 71% of our planet 🌎 is blue which means it’s water & only 29% is land & within our land territory we have soo many monsters & mysteries too solve about but still much is unknown, over vast worlds territory. If aren’t familiar what’s lurking about in our remote lands but how is possible, for us to know what’s underneath our ocean 🌊 there’s demonic ocean beasts or prehistoric monstrous deadliest marines might be lurking 👀 in our oceans looking for their next supper. For example Pacific Ocean is the largest among all oceans on earth has area bigger than all lands of 7 continents, imagine what type of marine life or maybe paranormal monsters lurking in our oceans may caused instant kill of Alpha Shark
Has anyone ever considered it was attacked by multiple creatures and then something happened to eat the piece that had the tracker. Also sharks eat each other too. Could have been some kind of feeding frenzy and Alpha was a victim. Happens a lot in nature.
Good point
This is my theory as well. Animals aren't like humans, it's not like some predator bought the shark and the entire thing was his meal alone. A carcass is a complete free-for-all for anything in the area.
especially if it was hurt
Tag washed up tho !!
Doesn't take an animal/ seacreature to swallow shark alpha whole? Just tear a chunk off? There are many examples of large fish having chunks bitten out?
Given the massiveness of the oceans, it honestly doesn't make much difference the size of the creature when it comes to how often we might see it. If a Megalodon were to have the same habits as other animals we do often see then I suppose the chances are very small. If it happened to dwell in only the deeper waters then I guess our chances of seeing it are based on how many underwater rovers we have out there.
What if it had come off
I highly doubt that a creature of that size would be able to find enough to eat. It would have to be a plankton eater like some whales.
Whatever changed its direction,then dove. Maybe have been food unto what temp. Then expelled to? Float?
@@caseypiper11 Sperm Whale? They're huge and find plenty enough to eat that certainly ain't small plankton. The teeth on those guys has not evolved to be like the size of a large city rat in order to filter-feed down there :P Plenty creatures find enough large creatures to predate upon down there in those dark unexplored regions - and that is only what we have already discovered and proven! If you wanna believe all that's predominantly down there is plankton then you're mistaken.
nope megs can only be in warm waters like tiger sharks.
Their first mistake was assuming that the shark was dead because the tracker was removed.
And the second: Why the same shark couldn't have eaten the sensor that came off its back? Sharks can eat trash... Even tires!
He ate the tracker, cause when it was found, it was bleeched out, from stomach acid!
I wonder what state the tracker was found in? Was it chewed up or did it show sings of stomach acid? It seems like there is something there that would shed more light on the mystery. If the tracker was in perfect shape it seems unlikely that it would have gone end to end in a giant shark, with all those teeth munching down repeatedly and somehow the tracker is unharmed at all?
If there had been any damage to the tracker, it would have been mentioned. Occam's razor says the shark just lost the tag.
I think shark alpha may not be necessarily dead. There was a struggle between the shark and another shark or whale. The tag came off and most probably wound up in the mouth of a shark or whale that dives that deep. Sperm whale is 1 candidate. It could also stay without air for hours.
Yes the temperature is the problem. It could not a fish or squid as pointed out in the video. It had to be a large carnivorous creature probably a killer whale. As several people pointed out the poor old shark most likely just got bitten. The tracker then got pooped out or regurgitated. 😮
"Yes the temperature is the problem ... It had to be a large carnivorous creature probably a killer whale."
You just contradicted yourself. Because the temperature was not as high as it would have been in a mammal, it could NOT have been an orca.
So what would have made more sense would be "The temperature is the problem. It could not have been a killer whale."
So here's a puzzle for you concerning Megladon:
"Prehistoric crocodiles were called archosaurs. These ruling reptiles originated over 250 million years ago, long before dinosaurs, birds, and modern-day crocodiles."
So, if the dinosaurs were wiped out by a meteor but crocks survived, then why not Megladon?
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Wait a minute, you said that we watched it while you work ?
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I think it was a sperm whale and not a giant great white, I mean a sperm whale lives at the surface but hunts at the deep sea plus a sperm whale is warm blooded and far more common than gigantism itcould easily swallow a great white and sientists found cases of sperm whales eating great whites.
i thought so too but the temp would be too high
Yes, but sperm whales would not be able to hold the temperature in which was recorded on the tracker. With how fast it happened, a sperm whale is not able to take on the great white, then dive down. They can only be in such depths for only an hour, meaning that if a sperm whale killed the great white, it would have been more torwards the surface. Gigantism may be rare but not impossible. A gigantic great white is the most scientifically possible because of the sustained internal body temperature the tracker recorded, and no reports of sperm whales have been seen hunting in that area.
I don't think either of you know what a sperm whale is 😄
@@michaelmcconnell7302 don't trust Google
Actually there have been no documented cases of sperm whales killing great whites before
Are you certain it wasn't Aquaman from Atlantis? He's known to have super human strength and can swim very fast in water.
Atlantis is no joke ,, I know where it was, and my best friend is an Atlantian.
Some narrator's are way too lazy and irritating, but I had a sound sleep since your way of telling the story seems to be a great lullaby. I could sleell like a new born baby thank you.😊
Don't digestive acids create heat when they're doing they're thing? Does anyone know what the stomach temp of a cold blooded critter like a giant squid be while it's digesting or do they just assume they know everything already and didn't bother to look for evidence as they do with everything else.
I believe squid are cold-blooded. They forage at night in low waters I think.
Smart ugly creatures.
They aren't mammals.
Multilegged, smart snakes I perceive them to be. Pennsylvania head looking things!
Penis headed things! Assistant, take a powder on type correction!
I'm more fascinated by the fact a tiny little computer board was out in the middle of the ocean, 1,000 feet deep, and still ended up on shore. Thousand of tons of trash are just floating out there for years but this little computer board made it home.
It would have to be its size, weight, and current at the time, which is why more trash appears on particular beaches than on others.
If the meg was still alive (I don't think it is for a second) but assuming it is, it could technically survive if it has evolved enough and remains in the deepest depths of the ocean. Ocean life is typically gets significantly larger deeper down than near the surface due to deep sea gigantisism. The sleeper shark is a great example of that, however just like he said in the video the meg would have had to evolve similarly to the sleeper shark and probably live in colder waters as well. The cold is a factor to the sleeper sharks slow growing and longevity, but the problem with that is that as far as scientists are aware the meg was cold blooded that thrived in very warm waters so it would have had to not only evolve like the sleeper shark, but also evolve to produce some heat like the Great White to live or go to the extreme and somehow adapt like the Greenland shark and survive in the frigid cold of the poles while still being cold blooded.
I hear bull sharks r very meen and not to be trusted
There are animals bigger than dinosaurs even today in the oceans. Whales are the main contenders though like the Blue Whale which is the largest animal to have ever existed, and in current times. The Humpback whale is a very aggressive whale that have been known to attack even groups of Orcas (Killer Whales) and win. It is possible one of them could have hit the shark and knocked its tracker off. The Orcas actually have a stronger bit force than Dinosaurs too, which just goes to show how dangerous the oceans really are.
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"Ocean life is typically gets", gotcha.
@@Mamba-Kush what?????
Being attached specifically to the base of the dorsal fin, are we absolutely sure the tag didn't just get removed and tossed overboard by shark poachers where it sank to the bottom before getting accidentally mistaken for prey by a reasonably sized creature that hunts by sensing movement, and consumed THAT way? You know, Occam's razor and all that. Remember, the tag was not necessarily tracking the shark the entire time, just itself.
In 1994 a friend and I saw what we estimated to be a 40 foot great white from our Navy ship about 300 miles off the coast of Brazil. Nobody has ever believed us,,but that's ok because we Both saw it. It was absolutely HUGE. Far bigger than the biggest great white known to exist,,,Deep Blue.
Probably a basking shark or a whale shark. From the surface they look a lot like great whites except they’re enormous - TikTok is full of people misidentifying them.
@@emperorofpluto nope. It was megalodon.
@@Tommytakanawa Are you joking or-?
@@chronicwasp I never joke about megalodon
I did hear of a huge shark in the pacific that took down a whale in front of some tourists on a ship. I wish people would take pictures you'd think in this day and age that would be the first thing to do!. Wow so this 40 ft shark did it have same coloring as a great white ? What was it doing behaving? Plz elaborate I'm intrigued.
Incredible that this channel can achieve SO many views for such low level of content! So much to learn about you human fellows (seriously taking notes).
Obviously, you are not learning a thing. Note this, maybe not spend your day trying to criticize random videos for attention. Video was fun and didn't claim to be an expert. Go watch Call of Duty videos. Those hackers and lags deserve it and you'll have much more fun.
Your goals sound basic
I’m curious why a giant cannibal shark is accepted as a solution when it is also cold-blooded and that exact criterion was used to eliminate several other of the theories
They couldnt figure out the answer & ran out of time for the project & had to post perhaps
Great Whites and similar members (Makos, Salmon Sharks, etc.) are actually WARM blooded. That's why the can be in colder water than some other shark species.
I figured if there were deep sea vents that could have been where the sudden heat came from. They're not really detailing how long the heat remained or more about the biometrics. I guess the scientists know better than me though lol.
I personally saw a 6m shark when fishing from a boat in the Indian Ocean near Mombasa Kenya. So a 5 meter (giant shark as you call them) is not so uncommon.
There was a 5-6m great white spotted by divers off the coast of Byron Bay in the 90s.
A 6 metre Great White is a massive individual and extremely rare, so you where extremely lucky :). I was lucky enough to see a smaller specimen (4 or so metres) and it was FREAKING HUGE :)
Can tell you from personal experience that Bremer Bay WA is 1 of the most beautiful beaches in the world. Beautiful turquoise water, and shark attacks are very rare.
Question: Could it be at all possible that the dive could’ve been an attempted evasion attempt from Alpha? Reason I ask is because as much as I don’t know enough, between mass, speed and potential of turning at all at high speed for such a large shark, let alone turning downward, if larger ones need to rely more on ambush tactics for it, then sudden powerful bursts of speed are likely going to be the prevalent event. But what if Alpha saw on time, did some problem solving to maximise her chance of escaping and dove as the initial stage of that before unfortunately, to use an AD&D term, rolling a one?
hmm sounds like a good theory! the only thing i think of though is how it wasn’t just shark alpha that had this happened to her, as they mentioned towards the end of the video. so what are the chances that all of these other sharks performed this exact (as far as i know, uncommon) tactic in the same exact location? and it still doesn’t solve the reason why temperatures increased to such a degree as it went deeper🤔 but again, i’m no shark expert, so maybe i’m overlooking something. either way, i like the theory!
Who knows. But what he said was horse-sh*t, great whites have been known to dive as deep as 1200 meters, a little more than orcas 1000 meters.
To do this, they close their gills, temporarily holding their breath to not lose heat, as it's very cold down there.
So a great white at 500 meters while not necessarily normal, is less than half what they can do for short periods!
I also don't get it, can't we check average temperatures of other creatures around there to see who matches? And likely literally no creature could swallow the shark whole, I don't get why it's unthinkable a curious orca or something took it? Australia isn't even that far from South afrika where Port and starboard are hunting great whites livers!
@@viktorbirkeland6520 ah ok there u go, someone who knows stuff about great whites.
i mean, im guessing theres gotta be a reason they excluded the fact that it cudve just been alpha herself that dove that deep (though again, how common is this that other sharks in the area did the exact same thing?)
and definitely, the tag cudve just gotten removed and swallowed by something else and doesnt mean that alpha was swallowed whole. but again, the other shark examples..?
It had to have been "Jaws", God dammit.
I do know those sound comparisons of the Bloop and ice don't match up. That means they are hiding something it didn't even match one bit.
There are 2 important details missing from the analysis (if we can call it that) of the video:
• Both tags found on the beaches were not subjected to any known form of digestive systems and didn't had any traces of digestion on them.
Remember that those tags are made of materials that would have reacted quite differently if they were to pass through a digestive system. Metal, plastics and other material acts quite differently when it comes to their corrosion when exposed to digestive enzymes or acids. On top of that there would have been traces of biological material left on the devices if it had passed through a digestive system that would have been able to eat a 9' shark.
• The video misses the fact that bigger sea creatures generates a LOT more heat internally than smaller creatures. In fact, even cold blooded squids generate noticeable heat when they apply forces with their tentacles. It's the principle of generative forces after all like when you press a rock, that rock will heat up. Hence whales, for example, while they maintains an average temperature of 96.8 degree F (36 degrees Celsius), they actually generate a MUCH bigger temperature as it's not the temperature generated by their body, but the result of the environmental temperature AND their body heat fused together. One of the main source of heat for aquatic creature is their digestive system. That thing generates a lot of heat when it "moves" the digested food through its track with peristalsis.
That ~29C temperature could actually be the kind of heat you could find in the digestive track of a giant squid while it's actively pressuring and digesting something as huge as a big shark. It's also possible that the shark was crushed by a giant squid and then the tag was eaten by a different smaller sea animal (like a killer whale or another shark) that would have come toward the "remains" left by the squid.
8.1 Maths, many of us use Japanese multiplication in place of regular multiplication, as long multiplication, as the name implies, takes longer than Japanese multiplication. Japanese multiplication is a great way for visual learners to multiply, as it uses lines and fewer numbers. Let's use 12×32 as an example. Keep in mind that place value is used to represent numbers: 32 is three tens and two ones, while 12 is one ten and two ones.
The tens are then represented by diagonal lines, while the ones are represented by additional parallel lines that are drawn after a pause. For the number 12, we so get
All we're doing is visualising the well-known place value representation of numbers. Let's try the number 32 now, but let’s go the other way this time. The lines should cross at the corners, leaving you with a rough diamond shape.
We only need to count the number of intersections between each line and the diamond to determine the product.
The intersections should first be grouped vertically. In other words, create a loop around the junctions that are closest to the left. next, start travelling right. Around the central junctions, draw a loop. Draw a loop around the junctions closest to the right side to finish (where the green and red lines intersect). What you've actually done is determined how many hundreds, tens, and ones are contained in the final product: edit i am not a bot
Who’s to say the whole shark was eaten? Hawks who have trackers have known to get trackers off. With a shark could it be possible it popped off in the chase them was eaten, or only lost the dorsal fin with the tag?
I think they saw how the temperature of of the tag changed
@@Titan-lj1ex A shame they didn't release the data.
I honestly think an orca killed the shark, ripped out its liver as they do often. Great white liver is an orcas favourite meal. Then other sharks scavenged the remains, another great white ate the part that had the tag. They are warm blooded. That’s what happened folks no matter how much you want it to be a a Megladon. 😝 🦈
i have witnessed a 60 megaldon twice in the bay of baja californa. both times I had a woman with me. These two events occured at different times. We were on cruise ships and took tours to parasail from a speed boat on Baja Bay, Seeimg the creature from the parasail, and being an engineer, it was easy to calculate the length of the shark at 60 or 65 feet long. The incrdidible thing was the neon green glowing fins the first time and neon blue glowing fins the second time.
😂😂😂
Imagine tagging a Huge shark.. just to find out it was eaten by a much bigger monster shark...
I have been to sea thousands of times, and this frightens me
@@Fr0styJade Yeah, a literal sea monster eaten by an even bigger sea monster, its not safe
9ft is a Juvenile its not full size.
@@meee6836 9ft is huge
That was quite interesting and entertaining. Thanks
I honestly think an orca killed the shark, ripped out its liver as they do often. Great white liver is an orcas favourite meal. Then other sharks scavenged the remains, another great white ate the part that had the tag. They are warm blooded. That’s what happened folks no matter how much you want it to be a a Megladon. 😝 🦈
The Livyatan Melvillei , commonly known as The Leviathan, was known to be the only marine beast to compete with the Megalodon in terms of food. It also was confirmed by scientists that it's bite force could rival that of The Megalodon. In my opinion, it is the most likely candidate. Great video as always and keep up the good work. It is why I subscribed.
Except, ofc, there's that pesky "they've been extinct for over 9 million years" thing. Nothing that huge would have gone undetected in our modern age, especially if it was said to havve come up and grabbed the shark.
@@jacobyrassilon Good point.However,Be Amazed himself said that some creatures could have evolved. Maybe the reason that no one has seen it is because it evolved. But then again any candidate Amazed mentioned also could have evolved.We'll never completely know what actually devoured Alpha.
The Ancient Livyatan whale aka the Mevillei a relative of the modern day Sperm Whale was believed to be a surface hunter preying on small and medium sized baleen whales.
@@jacobyrassilon true that if the Livyatan still existed we have known for sure it was just as large as a modern day Sperm Whale and it hunted small and medium sized baleen whales. We would have know from all the whale carcasses.
Alpha could have dived to avoid the predator. But how fast was the tag's dive? Could it simply have fallen off and been mistakingly swallowed by a small fish and then spat out, as another marine biologist suggested at one point? How long did it record that particular temperature? Does it look partially melted by passing through a digestive system or does it look as if it was immediately spat out?
No,if you watch the actual documentary, it explains that the tracking device had been eaten by stomach acids. The temperature change was entirely too rapid to have just fallen off. It was an immediate temperature, then an accelerated dive. The shark was eaten whole
@@grownman1017 The predator climbed to grab her, then went back down to its dwelling spots? So... not a great white, but a match for its internal temperature? To summarize: wait, it's not dozens of millions of years, it's actually ten thousand years; uhm, actually,... the climate ten thousand years ago was quite pleasant....
I saw a different video on this and apparently the tag had some corrosion from stomach acid.
@@grownman1017 I saw this a number of years ago and tried to find it a few times without any look. It was a good watch.
@@glimmeredgloom not sure where you were going with this....but what I was saying is, when it's tracking device was recovered, it had be corroded by acid. The tracking device showed the shark wearing said device was swimming along, then the device showed a temperature Spike, then a rapid dive, a dive far deeper than normal depths for sharks of this species. There are numerous speculations of what could have eaten an entire 9ft shark at once, but only time will tell. But while we are on the subject, let's be very clear, science knows more about the surface of Mars than what they know about our oceans. Science has been grotesquely wrong in the past about creatures once thought to be extinct for "millions" of years, only to discover not one but an entire breeding population, like in the case of the celocanth.
As a commercial fisherman I’ve seen Basking Sharks and Whale Sharks that were well over a century old
Wonderful narration with cute chuckles involved
I think sharks are great but scary sea animals. Sharks seems so interesting to me. I like watching shark stuff .
Dive with them . They are SO SO very graceful. When relaxed, they are so graceful and peaceful. The "scary" factor is quickly forgotten in my experience.
Something which always bugged me about the dinosaurs being, allegedly, wiped out by a meteor strike, was the sea dwelling dinosaurs dying out, too, whereas sharks and whales just continued on? It doesn’t add up.
@@captainbrooks oh? You’ve never heard of the Plesiosaur, or the Ichthyosaur, or the Basilosaurus? The latter was a type of whale, FYI. It cracks me up when people try to be snarky, only to expose themselves as intellectual frauds.
@@captainbrooks I didn’t forget to mention it. I assumed your learned self knew it already, or was I wrong?
@@captainbrooks likewise. I just don't think something that would kill off land animals would have the same effect on sea life.
@@captainbrooks I can accept the loss of larger predators, but not all species were enormous, nor were they all surface dwellers, hence the Megalodon surviving until about 100,000 years ago (speculative). This has been a very enjoyable exchange, Cap.
Fun fact via my old wooden boat builder father, fiberglass isn't waterproof. The only thing preventing water from getting in is the paint. A little scary when you think about it.
Actually Alpha shark was female, could it be that the giant shark tried to mate with the female? It was too big, its jaws crushed it when it clamped on to mate. Thats my theory.
Considering that the oceans are really deep and we cannot get to the very bottom, then it is possible to have creatures living there.
The deepest area of the ocean is the Challenger Deep, located at the southern end of the Mariana Trench. Recorded depth is 10,902-10,929 meters, or 35,755 to 35,853 feet.
The first manned craft to descend to the bottom was an Italian research bathyscaphe named Trieste, on January 23, 1960. It was piloted by Swiss oceanographer Jacques Piccard and US Navy Lieutenant Don Walsh.
Manned descents
1960: Trieste (Jacques Piccard, Don Walsh), 35,814 feet
2012: Deepsea Challenger (James Cameron), 35,787 feet
2019: DSV Limiting Factor (Victor Vesovo), 35,853 feet
Unmanned descents
1996: Kaikō, 35,784 feet
2008: ABISMO, 33,655 feet
2009: Nereus, 35,768 feet
2018: Haidou-1, 35,325 feet
No shit sherlock not like we have some big dinosaurs down there
you are rong.
An undiscovered creature hypothetically indeed can exist in the area of the incident, but it certainly couldn't be one great enough to consume a great white shark. If a creature of such a great size did exist at those depths ( based on the assumption it isn't an undiscovered giant squid ) one most likely would have been discovered beached and deceased from a Giant Squid attack, as we know there live around that area as well.
Hi, there! I enjoyed this video. I noticed a couple of issues. It was already determined that it couldn't have been a cold-blooded animal like a squid, so how could it have been a cold-blooded animal like a shark? Additionally, a great white shark (even though they're most likely too cold) that's 16' doesn't necessarily mean it would have had giganticism. Female great white sharks have been known to be over 20 feet long.
I don't see how a pack of killer whales/orcas couldn't have done it. Just my 2 cents.
Appearently white sharks are endothermic which means it's partially warm blooded and can control it's internal temperature which helps it to be a more active predator in cold waters.
There’s more to the story. One it was a Tiger Shark tagged. Two the temp matched that of a Great White and three the tag went further then 1600 feet down. Great Whites are known for staying around 3000 feet deep and even further with the deepest I believe was at almost 6000 feet. They also found the shark they originally tagged alive because it had the same exact scaring and I believe they tagged the fin for identification. This guy botched the entire story up.
I agree with you re the orcas.A pack of orcas,especially if there are calves in the pod, would rip apart any great white that got too close.
Great white sharks are warm-blooded.
16-18ft is a regularly attainable size for great whites, provided they live long enough. Some fishermen have claimed to see whites that were longer than their 20 foot boats too. So odds are there are beasts out there quite capable of swallowing down a 9ft shark. Not so irregular I think.
Hi .as I stated.a min.ago .I've been up close and personal with a 28 footer.other divers saw it also.i know there r oddities deep in the oceans
@@karencourt5684 that is not an oddity, the bigger ones go deeper, and sharks grow until they die, so 28 feet is big, but they can get bigger, wish you got some camera footage of it, hehe
Who’s watching this video in 2024
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Me, but I have already watched it. Multiple times actually . Well, all of Be Amazed’s videos.
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I imagine it was a Great White, but it doesn’t have to been an enormous, Great White. It could have been a Great White shark that just bit off the dorsal fin of the 9ft Great White to help incapicate it and then swallowed the fin.
I honestly think an orca killed the shark, ripped out its liver as they do often. Great white liver is an orcas favourite meal. Then other sharks scavenged the remains, another great white ate the part that had the tag. They are warm blooded. That’s what happened folks no matter how much you want it to be a a Megladon. 😝 🦈
Kieran,
Orcas don't do it often. Only orcas from 3 pods have been documented attacking great whites and only certain orcas within those pods. 99.9% of orcas don't attack great whites.
It wasn't recorded until 1997 and then it was another 20 years until it was recorded again.
@@kieranhart5776 shut up
@@kieranhart5776 exactly what I think. Orcas eat GW livers all the time. The rest would be scavenged by all kinds of animals.
@@richmax8486 the most muscular sea creatures:
Atlantic mackerel - 3.8 kg of pure muscle, 10% body fat
mahi mahi - 13 kg of pure muscle, 5% body fat
great barracuda - 23 kg of pure muscle, 10% body fat
king mackerel - 45 kg of pure muscle, 5% body fat
spinner dolphin - 79 kg of pure muscle, 5% body fat
white marlin - 82.5 kg of pure muscle, 5% body fat
bull shark - 130 kg of pure muscle, 5% body fat
Atlantic bluefin tuna - 150 kg of pure muscle, 5% body fat
common dolphin - 150 kg of pure muscle, 5% body fat
sand tiger shark - 159 kg of pure muscle, 5% body fat
striped dolphin - 160 kg of pure muscle, 5% body fat
Pacific white sided dolphin - 200 kg of pure muscle, 5% body fat
Fraser's dolphin - 200 kg of pure muscle, 5% body fat
yellowfin tuna - 180 kg of pure muscle, 5% body fat
striped marlin - 220 kg of pure muscle, 5% body fat
great hammerhead shark - 230 kg of pure muscle, 5% body fat
bottlenose dolphin - 300 kg of pure muscle, 5% body fat
Pacific bluefin tuna - 450 kg of pure muscle, 5% body fat
tiger shark - 635 kg of pure muscle, 5% body fat
swordfish - 650 kg of pure muscle, 5% body fat
black marlin - 750 kg of pure muscle, 5% body fat
great white shark - 1.800 kg of pure muscle, 5% body fat
killer whale - 5.442 kg of pure muscle, 5% body fat
There is actually much more evidence of a great flood that killed the dinosaurs than a meteor. That makes a giant predator possible. That also makes all the shark tracking data make sense.
Yes, after the meteor strike, a great tsunami occurred. That was because of the meteors impact shift it created deep in the earth. If the dinosaurs survived the meteor strike, they would later be killed off by said tsunami. This is why we have such great fossils that tell us what happened. Fossilization can only occur if the body was submerged in water, then the layers upon layers of soil, rock, etc. If dinosaurs were to survive that, they would have to deal with 10 years of no sunlight, killing off plants, omnivores (ornithisichians), then eventually the carnivores (theropods). The inlet dinosaurs that did survive were the ones that could fly, which is why birds are the direct descendants of dinosaurs. Sea dinosaurs could only survive if they were able to stay out of the acid polluted waters.
@@harp6964 All of that is partially true except it wasn't a meteor. It was a comet strike. It's also responsible for the ice age afterwards.
@@Fierysaint1 Ah, yes. Rookie mistake, lol. It was 100% a comet.There is definitely a distinct difference between the two. Thank you for the correction mate!
Shut up there is only second hand evidence of a flood. We can literally see the astroid crater that killed the dinosaurs so shut up and talk about your religous bullshit elsewhere. Go back to school i remember getting taught to never believe a secondary source in school you should have learnt the same.
@@Fierysaint1 you can see the crater in the gulf of mexico so maybe go back to school mate you have no idea what your on about
The great white could've been eaten by a group of sharks. It happens all the time. And since there were so many in the death valley, it could've easily been swarmed.
To be honest the megalodon could still be alive and living in the 80% of the ocean that we haven’t explored yet