Freedom of speech doesnt matter to your private workplace, Freeeeedumbbbb also has consequences. You can compare vaccines to holocaust ALLL YOU WANT. Outside of Disneyland. Freedom!
They pick and choose. Example, woke writers/activists hop onto X and insult fans all the time. Most of them don't lose their jobs. Yet Gina lost her job. That double standard should already be enough to drastically help her case in court.
@@jayray1714 Protected class or not, defamation is defamation. And the fact that she can point at Pedro Pascal - who posted similar political social media content - and clearly show that he was given preferential treatment while she was discharged and defamed, makes her case pretty strong.
@@edwells8963 Protected class is in regards to the discrimination case, the bulk of the lawsuit. As far as defemation goes, what did Disney say that wasn’t true? Remember, very important, it’s not defemation if it’s true. “Whatabout whatabout whatabout” doesn’t hold up in court. Bringing up Pedro’s posts(which are not at all similar) will not help her case as they’re different messages coming from a different place(love vs hate).
@@jayray1714 Disney said her "social media posts denigrating people based on their cultural and religious identities are abhorrent and unacceptable". The defamation part of the trial is disputing that any such thing happened. She said the culture war was being used to divide and dehumanize people, just like 1940s Germany used small social differences to divide races and religion. Where's the denigration? Also Pedro's tweets are exactly relevant to the discrimination case; a male co-star also made inflammatory posts, but got away with it (because it was company endorsed rhetoric). It hardly seems unreasonable.
Hey, this is the best Star Wars store we’ve had in years. And it even hits Disney’s quota. A woman standing up against an empire, backed by a rebel.🤣🤣🤣
I think your odds are way off. Disney's stock would take off it were run competently, so it wouldn't be a financial loss for Musk (or a group of like-minded investors). If Peltz doesn't get board seats, it wouldn't surprise me to see a couple of deep-pocket partners join Peltz and Musk in a hostile takeover.
That would be the ideal outcome fs. I think Elon is more likely trying to buy shares with Ike Perlmutter so that they can gain majority shares and stage a company takeover, giving Bob Iger (and hopefully Kathleen Kennedy) the boot
If he succeeds then the sjw mind virus may just finally begin to break. I cant wait to go back to a time when I dont have to avoid speaking my mind before finding out what popular opinion is. It is disgusting that we have to conform or fear reprisals right now.
Disney is reminding me of a Battleship losing the fight, staggering out of line, belching enormous gouts of flame. You just know they are going to be exploring the depths soon.
How apropos that a woman who knows how to hit back, in the ring, in real life is now hitting back, in the court of public opinion, when struck by cancellation culture. Now Disney will see what a *TRUE STRONG FEMALE* really is, and not their caricature of a "strong female" they want society to embrace.
your "really strong female" put this on top of the lawsuit paper: "i as a women was discirminated against compared to my men collegues". thats your hero right there. hypocrites.
The best thing about all this is the horrible PR that Disney is suffering right now. It serves them right for setting boundaries on creativity and pandering to the minority.
Indeed. The biggest boundary they have is that they do not want diversity of thought. Anyone with different politics, they want fired or not to hire in the first place. Everyone who works for them in some position of power is always Democratic/left leaning/feminist.
The average person is looking at this and going ‘good, Disney dropped a bigot.’ The PR is great for Disney. And the Discovery, is gonna be even better for Disney when they make a compilation of all the dumb sh_t she says.
@jayray1714 I wanna know why you're all over this vid posting comments taking the side of a soulless corporation that unjustly fired a woman who dared to have an opinion over that woman who didn't cower to bullying? You must work at Disney then because it really sounds like you're on the wrong team here.
Pedro Pascal's MAGA/Woodchipper tweet was far worse than anything Gina Carano said or likely even thought. That alone should be in court with Disney's selective enforcement.
He's distracting the weak-minded from all his other woes. Tesla stock dropping, Twitter in the shitter, Hyperloop failing, Boring Company failing, SpaceX getting slapped, etc.
@@thomasbecker9676Twitter in the shitter? Wasn't Twitter literally unprofitable before he took it over? And how on earth would "distracting" the public help him if all those things were true? 🧐 Keep coping.
@@JadeRunner Correct me if I'm wrong, but Twitter has taken huge financial losses and advertisers have fled in droves since your glorious leader Elon took over. I know you hope stanning for Elon will somehow result in him allowing you to fellate him, but you need to hope in one hand, and shit into the other.
@@JadeRunner Twitter is even less profitable now. He took a company that was struggling, and made it significantly worse. You desperately defending him is cope
its about money. her career is in the gutter. its about money. also..."i'm an innocent women, i was mistreated compared to men"....is her first entry in the lawsuit.
@@Ob1sdarkside Tanked Tesla? It's down 3 bucks on the year. LOL It's 3 times the market cap of Disney. He has 10 billion lost in the cushions of his couch. StarLink is killing it. SpaceX lifts 80% of all cargo into orbit worldwide now. Tell me again how he's a failure?
@@walkir2662 If Iger keeps going the way he's going, which looks likely. Musk would be able to buy a decent stock holding. It'll be interesting to see how this plays out.
Baggage is right, these two are the worst case scenario to sue Disney at a vulnerable time. One who is just a actress with all the ingredients for a lawsuit, another is a celebrity CEO who will potentially upscale the stakes then take it as far as it can go based on his influence in Gina's decision. She has a solid case but Elon can make it worse for Disney and they can only gaslight and pretend this is a non-issue despite the fact that they are shady enough to have dirt on them that Gina may exploit. At this point, it's not about the money, it's about covering their asses from their reputation getting any worse than it is. Disney WAS too big to fail but somehow had the stars aligned and failed themselves in ways that defy the bounds of logic based on their persistence to pursue political agendas that has already been exposed.
They could even bring up the difference in how actors were treated based on their personal comments….rachel Ziegler single-handedly destroyed one of their projects due to her personal comments about men and she suffered no reputation damage or consequences in any way from Disney.
Other actors and entities in lucasfilm and disney were publicly making much worse comments than Gina's but they were aimed at conservatives and not only were they ignored by the management, they were publicly and authoritatively backed up.
It's worse than that. Zegler was on company time. She was doing red carpet crap with her costar. The movie is effectively DOA now. You'd think there would be some sort of public apology, but nope, nothing. Gina says we shouldn't treat people as 'other' and she gets fired for it. Absolutely wild.
The big smoking gun here is that Pedro Pascal had previously done exactly what they claim they fired Gina for - repeatedly, before _and_ after Gina did it, and with nowhere near the same level of respect and dignity that Gina did it. Seriously, look at Pascal's tweets and selfie videos talking about Trump supporters. The guy is unhinged and full of rage, hate and malice. He outright says "people who like Donald Trump are Nazis" with glee and venom. Pascal has faced exactly zero consequences from Disney for his history of this. This is the part that Disney is going to have a very hard time explaining in court - why only one of their actors was fired for something they both did while the other wasn't even reprimanded. And in our current political cIimate, the fact that the one who was fired is female while the one who was given a pass was male is only going to make it even harder to explain, especially for a company that has made "fighting misogyny" their main core brand value over the last decade. To be clear, in a perfect world I believe Disney has the right to fire whoever they want for whatever reason they want. I also think if Disney wants to be an openly partisan political organisation ie anti-Trump and anti-Trump-suppoters, they have every right to be. But Disney deny being partisan and claim partisan politics had nothing to do with Gina's firing. Furthermore, Disney have spent the last decade screwing others over in the name of these values they themselves have violated, so the issue here is really about Disney's hypocrisy, inconsistency and quadruple standards, so I'm all in favor of seeing them suffer for this.
@@JadeRunner Well, the best part of this is California state law prohibits the firing of an employee for their political affiliation. So no, they don't have the right to fire her for the reason they did. They can't possibly prove they did it because her words damaged the brand. Their treatment of Pascal proves as much. This lawsuit is gonna be juicy.
@@YTChannel420 maybe, maybe not but it’s not so much about winning or losing as it is showing Disney/hollywood that people won’t put up with this anymore.
She will 100% settle (if it even gets that far) because there is absolutely nothing supporting her case. She wasn't fired, her contract was expiring and it just wasn't renewed. That's literally how most contracts work.
I literally got shivers when BG suggested that Elon would push Gina not to settle just to reveal all of the truth behind what they said and thought behind closed doors. The revelations would just be…. Shivers.
that would be very progressive for disney! they could have a woman as their CEO! if you pitched it that way, i wouldnt be shocked of those monkeys actually liked the idea
"controversial" several people who are in the "IN" crowd politically have said exactly what she said with zero consequences. Therefore it's not controversial.
Some articles say she's suing to be re-cast. Maybe they just want to make her look bitter and desperate? She should be going after money money money and I hope that's what this is.
a company can get rid of personal they don't align with. love or hate it, thats the freedom we have in the US. now go away. or i start telling Elon what to do...and watch your pitchfork come outl.
@@randomcharacter6501 ding ding ding. Most people forget that the discrimination laws include political opinions too. All of those laws were written with the McCarthy events being fresh in people's minds.
The more interesting point here is justice in American is the preserve of rich men with (almost) unlimited bank accounts. The only way Gina can clear her name is when Elon rocks up with his cheque book. What is that about?
Gina was horribly treated, and to take on this giant company for her termination would have been way beyond her means. What other choice did she have but to walk away and suffer the humiliation dumped upon her? Elon, because he can, reached out and said, "I got your back." It's a dream come true. The big guy standing up for the little guy.
What will really be interesting is when this goes to court and they force Disney to disclose their assets for damages.... and the numbers don't match what they have been telling investors.
I watched a Razorfist stream recently, and he said that it might be smarter for Elon to buy up Disney properties like Star Wars so that they become increasingly irrelevant over the next few years. Then he can swoop in and buy the company for probably much less than he would spend now.
@@walkir2662 It's more likely the internal proxy fight will put Peltz and Perlmutter in charge than Elon swooping in and taking over. That's probably what this is really about. Musk is supporting the board takeover
Bob: “fuck you elon, we pulling disney adverts off twitter!” Elon: “fuck you bob, ill buy disney just so i can put the disney adverts back on twitter! I mean X!”
That's some serious revisionism on Elon's take over of Twiiter. Dude made an offer for a joke, waived his right of due diligence and got forced to finish the deal by the courts. He definitely didn't want it until the lawsuit told him he did.
Sad thing is that if the social media handler for Disney had left it at, "Ms. Carrano is not currently under contract with Disney, and there are no plans to put her on contract in the future," they would have been find. But the handler just had to go on and, using the Official Disney Account, describes her views as "abhorrent and repugnant." They deserve the pain that is coming.
Does Disney even have some money left to try buy off Gina Carano off court settlement after they suffer a lot of flops and money losses with their failure of movies and shows?
They're actively trying to burn at _least_ $300,000,000 on a new _Pirates of the Carribean_ they're going to give _The Little Mermaid_ treatment to, all without Johnny Depp.
That's exactly where the confidence comes from. Disney is in hellfire and pretending everything is okay for some deranged reason and continues to double down on their agenda despite the obvious financial leakage but this is a bluff and a sign of weakness so if noted figures will test waters and sue, perhaps they might succeed since they feel Disney is this delusional.
Well realistically any time the treatment of Jews in WW2 comes up, or especially gets used in comparison/metaphor, people get their panties in a bunch. So in that respect, I would argue that what Carano said WAS controversial. But 1) It was significantly less controversial than the similar post made by Pedro Pascal, and he didn't get fired. And 2) just because what Carano said could be considered controversial, doesn't mean it wasn't true. Also Disney's assertion that her comments were "denigrating" to minorities was a bunch of dishonest, emotionally manipulative crap. Nothing about what Carano said denigrated anybody. She just made the point that people shouldn't hate each other for their political views, and that continuing to do so could lead to worse things. Which is a perfectly reasonable opinion.
It’s all about the timing. The drivel coming out of the Dizney own studios isn’t drawing flies. The parks are stagnating. The losses from streaming are lessening…but still losses. This can only help Peltz.
yes, as was stated in the lawsuit, we need to stand with an "innocent women who was discriminated aganst compared to her male collegues". i love when strong females suddenly become weak and defensless when it suits them.
Gina's theme song is The Black Keys' murder ballad "Ten Cent Pistol" She hit them with her ten cent pistol Because they ruined her name Well she hit them with her ten cent pistol And they've never been the same There's nothing worse In this world Than pay-back from a A jealous girl The laws of man, they don't apply When blood gets in a woman's eye
The thing with Gina Carano is the whole thing was started by some trolls acting as the "pronoun police". She simply said she didn't want to put them in her bio. That's it.
Elon is pissed at Bob Iger and Disney. He’s looking to hurt their bottom line, like they did to him when they pulled advertisement off X due to false accusations of Elon being antisemitic. And I’m all for the ride.
It's not the firing that is legally a problem. You can fire anyone for any reason(unless they have an ironclad contract). You can fire them if you don't like the shoes they wear. What you absolutely can not do is slander someone you have fired and call them a bigot. That is why Disney is in trouble here.
@@jackinthebox301 Learn something new every day. That seems like an astonishingly sensible law. I just wonder how often/fairly it is enforced in a state like California.
@@Zayphar Yeah, that's the wild card here. Will a judge in California be a-political enough to follow the law? God, what happened to our country that I have to say that.
The last time he joked about buying something he brought it. In order to make it too expensive to buy the company Disney will have to start making money again which means it has to make good entertainment again. If they keep failing he'll be able to buy them. Either way Elon wins.
Good perspectives in this conversation. Elon buying Disney would make sense and fits into X is the Everything app. Public square, financial transactions, entertainment. Please let Disparu know it's X not Twitter. 😄 Critical Drinker makes the best videos!
I work for a major automotive company, their policy is if you have them as your employer on a social media site you represent them 24/7 and they will and have terminated people for things posted on FB , I don't have them as my employer on there anymore
Fair enough to Gina, I hope she wins. Elon on the other hand couldn’t give a fig about free speech in Eastern Europe as long as his buddy Putin gets his way.
You could tell the Mando and Grogu movie was a hail mary pitch to try and pump investor interest. The poster looked like something any 12 year old could have made in MS paint lol.
The US Title VII of the Civil Rights Act of 1964 bans private employers from discrimination on the basis of race, color, sex, national origin, or religion. So one cannot be fired due to race, color, sex, national origin, or religion. Other reasons are harassment or retaliation.Other than these reasons US employers can fire an employee for just about any reason. So Gina Carano has a tough case to prove and win.
Yep. It's unclear if she's suing for wrongful termination, defamation, or both. If defamation, that's a tall order when you're a public person. The quote she references is "... her social media posts denigrating people based on their cultural & religious identities are abhorrent & unacceptable.”
To make matters worse, I sorely doubt that Disney-an extremely litigious corporation with a century's worth of experience in the courtroom-would have worded a statement regarding an employee's termination in a manner that exposes them to future litigation.
Clearly Elon is just gearing up to die and leave his vast fortune to the first person who can solve his VR scavenger hunt full of movie and video game references.
@@samdherring well, it would make an okay book that leans too hard on its pile of references. But the weird thing is, you end up reading it more often than some of your other, better books.
I'm no fanboy of his, but Elon is no dumby. He's a shrewd businessman and realizes the potential that Disney's IPs (Marvel, SW, etc.) has to turn serious profit if they went back to entertaining instead of their bogus culture war agenda. I hope he does get to acquire them.
This whole situation has led to me developing some real interest & respect for Elon Musk. While I still dislike most of what he does, this push of his is looking good. To help people like Gina who have been wronged by overly powerful and corrupt companies over personal opinions. To push out the crowds that are destroying entertainment and social culture. And knowing he is a self-propelled force that cannot be bought or influenced by money. I may regret this in the future, but Godspeed you Musk.
I wonder if Elon is familiar with the old Star Wars expanded universe. If not people should tweet him about characters like Mara Jade, Kyle Katarn, the Solo twins, etc
I think this is great. I think Disney has gotten very comfortable with the way that they treat people and the things that they do because they know they are so financially secure that nobody will ever really stand up against them. Having the financial backing of someone like Elon Musk is a huge benefit and I don't think Gina is the type of person who's going to back down or settle. She more than has a valid case and I believe will see it through all the way. I think we're seeing a trend beginning to start that I really appreciate where in cases like Amber Heard versus Johnny Depp and Evan Rachel Wood versus Marilyn Manson that we're not letting people get away with defamation and character assassination anymore. This could very well be a historical turning of the tide and I'm here for it
I have been saying for years that Iger is tanking Disney deliberatly so he can put it in a position for hostile takeover. The assets are enormous both intellectual and physical. I would love it so much if Elon swooped in and bought it out from under Iger because Iger was greedy and wanted to get a better deal and was willing to tank it further.
Seeing how well Twitter is doing after elon took over this may be the only way to get rid of Disney forever. Seriously that man is like King Midas, only that everything he touches turns to shit XD
This is a slam dunk discrimination and defamation lawsuit. Imagine how ridiculous Disney is going to look when they have to start reading their internal emails in court.
I really hope that they do in fact push it till the end...it will have a much bigger payout if the lawsuit can damage Disney enough for a joint Musk takeover
I haven’t been this excited about something related to Disney since the announced development of the last released Avengers movies. I hope they both make a real public example of Disney. We are in the End Game now.
Disney: "We support a strong independent woman who deserves to speak out her mind."
Gina Carano: *speaks out her mind*
Disney: "SILENCE WOMAN!"
REEEEEEEEEEEEE NOT LIKE THAT!!
Freedom of speech doesnt matter to your private workplace, Freeeeedumbbbb also has consequences.
You can compare vaccines to holocaust ALLL YOU WANT.
Outside of Disneyland. Freedom!
so non gqp points are getting deleted.. lol ok christian sheep. #separationofchurchandstate
It's more like "who WE decide deserves to speak her mind" lol.
They pick and choose. Example, woke writers/activists hop onto X and insult fans all the time. Most of them don't lose their jobs.
Yet Gina lost her job. That double standard should already be enough to drastically help her case in court.
Disney being sued essentially for discrimination is just too delicious.
She’s sueing in federal court; where being a dunce isn’t a protected class.
Correction: I meant to say conservative, not dunce.
@@jayray1714 Protected class or not, defamation is defamation.
And the fact that she can point at Pedro Pascal - who posted similar political social media content - and clearly show that he was given preferential treatment while she was discharged and defamed, makes her case pretty strong.
@@edwells8963 Protected class is in regards to the discrimination case, the bulk of the lawsuit. As far as defemation goes, what did Disney say that wasn’t true? Remember, very important, it’s not defemation if it’s true.
“Whatabout whatabout whatabout” doesn’t hold up in court. Bringing up Pedro’s posts(which are not at all similar) will not help her case as they’re different messages coming from a different place(love vs hate).
@@jayray1714 Disney said her "social media posts denigrating people based on their cultural and religious identities are abhorrent and unacceptable".
The defamation part of the trial is disputing that any such thing happened. She said the culture war was being used to divide and dehumanize people, just like 1940s Germany used small social differences to divide races and religion. Where's the denigration?
Also Pedro's tweets are exactly relevant to the discrimination case; a male co-star also made inflammatory posts, but got away with it (because it was company endorsed rhetoric). It hardly seems unreasonable.
Hey, this is the best Star Wars store we’ve had in years. And it even hits Disney’s quota. A woman standing up against an empire, backed by a rebel.🤣🤣🤣
We can call at Disney strikes back
Calling Elon a rebel is like calling Walter White a rebel. But the rest is so true 😂
@@markmickmanCan you explain what you meant by that?
Who’s the rebel? The richest man on the planet who owns one of the largest social media companies on the planet?
@@jayray1714 I guess Elon Musk is Princess Leia and Gina is Luke.
"It's not about money, it's about sending a message. Everything burns 🔥."
Just like how Disney is burning right now.
@@JustTooDamnHonestthanks, I wasn't sure what the allegory he was going for was until you explained it.
Carano's tweets were far less spicy than the openly derogatory tweets of her male co-star.
Not to mention all the abusive, hateful ranting that comes from 'the woke' all day every day.
Disney is based in California. California has laws on the books that make it clear you cannot fire someone for political opinions.
She took it to federal court
Gina Carano: "Prepare for trouble!"
Elon Musk: "And make it double!"
haha nice
Gina Carano:"To protect the world from wrongful termination!"
Elon Musk:"To unite all chads within our nation!"
@@someguyontheinternet2399 To denounce the evils of Iger and Kennedy
@@someguyontheinternet2399
Gina Carano: Gina!
Elon Musk: Elon!
Nelson Pelts: Nelson that’s right.
@@someguyontheinternet2399Gina Carrano: To denounce the Evils of Lies and Woke!
I know it’s a million to one shot but if Elon ends up owning Disney, I’ll laugh so hard
I think your odds are way off. Disney's stock would take off it were run competently, so it wouldn't be a financial loss for Musk (or a group of like-minded investors). If Peltz doesn't get board seats, it wouldn't surprise me to see a couple of deep-pocket partners join Peltz and Musk in a hostile takeover.
That would be the ideal outcome fs. I think Elon is more likely trying to buy shares with Ike Perlmutter so that they can gain majority shares and stage a company takeover, giving Bob Iger (and hopefully Kathleen Kennedy) the boot
Well he has some pretty rich friends
It wouldn't be the first time one of his joke purchases turned into a real one. That's how he got Twitter.
If he succeeds then the sjw mind virus may just finally begin to break. I cant wait to go back to a time when I dont have to avoid speaking my mind before finding out what popular opinion is. It is disgusting that we have to conform or fear reprisals right now.
Disney is reminding me of a Battleship losing the fight, staggering out of line, belching enormous gouts of flame. You just know they are going to be exploring the depths soon.
The Bismarck with its damaged rudder, helplessly turning in circles, certainly sounds about right.
@rjsouthworth5246 Nah Disney is the Prince of Wales. Hood is sunk and the quad cannons aren't working.
@ryanb9749
Prince of Wales was sunk in the South Pacific by the Japanese. The Hood was sunk by the Bismarck in the North Atlantic
@OR56 yes. But the POW was the Hoods escort when it was sunk, and it retreated.
How apropos that a woman who knows how to hit back, in the ring, in real life is now hitting back, in the court of public opinion, when struck by cancellation culture. Now Disney will see what a *TRUE STRONG FEMALE* really is, and not their caricature of a "strong female" they want society to embrace.
your "really strong female" put this on top of the lawsuit paper: "i as a women was discirminated against compared to my men collegues".
thats your hero right there. hypocrites.
Agreed, the pseudo strong females in their content are laughable. Good point
Do we love so irony here. :D Its like poetry it rhymes
They’re gonna see it; and embarrass her and Elon in front of the world. Why do some people have such a humiliation fetish. She has no case.
@@alesksanderpoetic justice
The discovery in this case has a very real chance of seriously harming Disney and I'm here for it!
How? Disney is gonna make a massive compilation of dunce statements and tweets Gina has said for the public to see. Discovery will favor Disney.
@@jayray1714 Everyone has already seen what Gina has said. The world hasn't seen internal Disney communications.
The best thing about all this is the horrible PR that Disney is suffering right now. It serves them right for setting boundaries on creativity and pandering to the minority.
Indeed. The biggest boundary they have is that they do not want diversity of thought. Anyone with different politics, they want fired or not to hire in the first place.
Everyone who works for them in some position of power is always Democratic/left leaning/feminist.
The average person is looking at this and going ‘good, Disney dropped a bigot.’ The PR is great for Disney. And the Discovery, is gonna be even better for Disney when they make a compilation of all the dumb sh_t she says.
@@jayray1714 we shall see
@@jayray1714keep telling yourself that
@jayray1714 I wanna know why you're all over this vid posting comments taking the side of a soulless corporation that unjustly fired a woman who dared to have an opinion over that woman who didn't cower to bullying? You must work at Disney then because it really sounds like you're on the wrong team here.
Pedro Pascal's MAGA/Woodchipper tweet was far worse than anything Gina Carano said or likely even thought. That alone should be in court with Disney's selective enforcement.
Disney is already trying to "Settle" this court case and Gina is NOT having it. Rumors already say they have offered her substantial money..
Yall love unsubstantiated rumors. Imma need a source they’re trying to settle, your fav grifter YTers are not a source
IDK what Elon is planning but Im here for the ride
He's distracting the weak-minded from all his other woes. Tesla stock dropping, Twitter in the shitter, Hyperloop failing, Boring Company failing, SpaceX getting slapped, etc.
@@thomasbecker9676Twitter in the shitter? Wasn't Twitter literally unprofitable before he took it over?
And how on earth would "distracting" the public help him if all those things were true? 🧐
Keep coping.
@@JadeRunner Correct me if I'm wrong, but Twitter has taken huge financial losses and advertisers have fled in droves since your glorious leader Elon took over. I know you hope stanning for Elon will somehow result in him allowing you to fellate him, but you need to hope in one hand, and shit into the other.
@@thomasbecker9676if I had a nickel for every chuckle head that insists that twitter was better off before Elon took over, I’d be able to buy Disney.
@@JadeRunner Twitter is even less profitable now. He took a company that was struggling, and made it significantly worse. You desperately defending him is cope
It's not about money, it's about principle - interesting hot take on the topic and I think it's a very clever approach.
its about money. her career is in the gutter. its about money.
also..."i'm an innocent women, i was mistreated compared to men"....is her first entry in the lawsuit.
It's certainly not about money if Musk is behind it
A wise man once said "It's the principal of the thing"
Elon lacks principles.
She’s asking for the role back cause all she can get is crappy Daily Wire movies.. it’s about the money
The ultimate purpose of this is damaging Disney further to gain an advantage in the proxy war with Nelson Peltz against Disney.
I'm all for that. Anything that removes Bob Iger would make me happy
I think the most telling thing that happened recently is Nelson Peltz and Elon Musk together "Talking about companies to take over"
This is my daydream.
Elon still owes 10 billion for twitter, he's tanked tesla stock. Byd have overtaken tesla. Where is Elon getting the money to buy Disney?
@@Ob1sdarkside Tanked Tesla? It's down 3 bucks on the year. LOL It's 3 times the market cap of Disney. He has 10 billion lost in the cushions of his couch. StarLink is killing it. SpaceX lifts 80% of all cargo into orbit worldwide now. Tell me again how he's a failure?
@@Ob1sdarkside Nowhere, Iger needs to do much "better" to make the company affordable for him. He can, however, buy a nice amount of shares.
@@walkir2662 If Iger keeps going the way he's going, which looks likely. Musk would be able to buy a decent stock holding. It'll be interesting to see how this plays out.
Baggage is right, these two are the worst case scenario to sue Disney at a vulnerable time. One who is just a actress with all the ingredients for a lawsuit, another is a celebrity CEO who will potentially upscale the stakes then take it as far as it can go based on his influence in Gina's decision. She has a solid case but Elon can make it worse for Disney and they can only gaslight and pretend this is a non-issue despite the fact that they are shady enough to have dirt on them that Gina may exploit. At this point, it's not about the money, it's about covering their asses from their reputation getting any worse than it is. Disney WAS too big to fail but somehow had the stars aligned and failed themselves in ways that defy the bounds of logic based on their persistence to pursue political agendas that has already been exposed.
This is the most entertaining Disney story since Avengers Endgame and man I am HERE for it. 😂🤣😂
The real Phase 5
They could even bring up the difference in how actors were treated based on their personal comments….rachel Ziegler single-handedly destroyed one of their projects due to her personal comments about men and she suffered no reputation damage or consequences in any way from Disney.
Other actors and entities in lucasfilm and disney were publicly making much worse comments than Gina's but they were aimed at conservatives and not only were they ignored by the management, they were publicly and authoritatively backed up.
It's worse than that. Zegler was on company time. She was doing red carpet crap with her costar. The movie is effectively DOA now. You'd think there would be some sort of public apology, but nope, nothing. Gina says we shouldn't treat people as 'other' and she gets fired for it. Absolutely wild.
The big smoking gun here is that Pedro Pascal had previously done exactly what they claim they fired Gina for - repeatedly, before _and_ after Gina did it, and with nowhere near the same level of respect and dignity that Gina did it.
Seriously, look at Pascal's tweets and selfie videos talking about Trump supporters. The guy is unhinged and full of rage, hate and malice. He outright says "people who like Donald Trump are Nazis" with glee and venom.
Pascal has faced exactly zero consequences from Disney for his history of this. This is the part that Disney is going to have a very hard time explaining in court - why only one of their actors was fired for something they both did while the other wasn't even reprimanded.
And in our current political cIimate, the fact that the one who was fired is female while the one who was given a pass was male is only going to make it even harder to explain, especially for a company that has made "fighting misogyny" their main core brand value over the last decade.
To be clear, in a perfect world I believe Disney has the right to fire whoever they want for whatever reason they want. I also think if Disney wants to be an openly partisan political organisation ie anti-Trump and anti-Trump-suppoters, they have every right to be.
But Disney deny being partisan and claim partisan politics had nothing to do with Gina's firing. Furthermore, Disney have spent the last decade screwing others over in the name of these values they themselves have violated, so the issue here is really about Disney's hypocrisy, inconsistency and quadruple standards, so I'm all in favor of seeing them suffer for this.
@@JadeRunnerexactly. I would parrot the whole “they’re a company they can fire who they want” if they actually applied it equally.
@@JadeRunner Well, the best part of this is California state law prohibits the firing of an employee for their political affiliation. So no, they don't have the right to fire her for the reason they did. They can't possibly prove they did it because her words damaged the brand. Their treatment of Pascal proves as much. This lawsuit is gonna be juicy.
She should absolutely not settle. This needs to be as open and public as possible
Gina isn't going anywhere with this case
@@YTChannel420 maybe, maybe not but it’s not so much about winning or losing as it is showing Disney/hollywood that people won’t put up with this anymore.
@@GundamMeister357 Lol, this is going to blow over, and people like you will conveniently forget about how wrong you were.
@@thomasbecker9676 ok
She will 100% settle (if it even gets that far) because there is absolutely nothing supporting her case. She wasn't fired, her contract was expiring and it just wasn't renewed. That's literally how most contracts work.
"It's not about the MONEY, it's about the MESSAGE." -The Joker
I literally got shivers when BG suggested that Elon would push Gina not to settle just to reveal all of the truth behind what they said and thought behind closed doors. The revelations would just be….
Shivers.
Gina should sue for becoming CEO of Disney.
"I don't want your money, Bob. I want your job."
that would be very progressive for disney! they could have a woman as their CEO!
if you pitched it that way, i wouldnt be shocked of those monkeys actually liked the idea
@@Rootigayeah but Disney wouldn’t want her as CEO, because she’s not a women that has the same political views as them.
That would be the worst job.
"controversial" several people who are in the "IN" crowd politically have said exactly what she said with zero consequences. Therefore it's not controversial.
"Gina, this isn't about the money..."
"It's about a SHIT-LOAD of money!"
"Ahhh, when you're right, you're right. And you? You're always right!".
Some articles say she's suing to be re-cast. Maybe they just want to make her look bitter and desperate? She should be going after money money money and I hope that's what this is.
Spaceballs 😂😂😂😂😂
Gimme paw! AWAWAWAWAWAWAWAWAWAWA!! 🤣
At most it’s pay for a few episodes! That’s all she lost.
deleting the sequel trilogy from history is probably the only thing that will ever be able to save star wars
That and reinstate the expanded universe.
Mandalorian is wildly successful
Disney wants strong independent women, until they speak their mind....
a company can get rid of personal they don't align with. love or hate it, thats the freedom we have in the US.
now go away. or i start telling Elon what to do...and watch your pitchfork come outl.
@@TNM001Yea they can right up until it's discrimination. Which Disney seems to be actively doing.
Speak their mind? Dude she's an idiot who said some really dumb things
@@randomcharacter6501 ding ding ding. Most people forget that the discrimination laws include political opinions too. All of those laws were written with the McCarthy events being fresh in people's minds.
@@randomcharacter6501 I thought it was about defamation.
I hope they win this lawsuit.
The more interesting point here is justice in American is the preserve of rich men with (almost) unlimited bank accounts. The only way Gina can clear her name is when Elon rocks up with his cheque book. What is that about?
Gina was horribly treated, and to take on this giant company for her termination would have been way beyond her means.
What other choice did she have but to walk away and suffer the humiliation dumped upon her?
Elon, because he can, reached out and said, "I got your back."
It's a dream come true.
The big guy standing up for the little guy.
@@myoldmategood that Elon is doing that, but it's terrible that he *needs* too in order for her case to have a chance.
@Sandwiches. it is, but going to court is horribly expensive if you end up on the losing side.
perhaps another question to ask is why haven't any rich and powerful women stepped up to support Gina?
You actually think Elon is doing this for altruistic reasons?
What will really be interesting is when this goes to court and they force Disney to disclose their assets for damages.... and the numbers don't match what they have been telling investors.
Elon is pulling from his boy Peter Thiel’s playbook. Thiel settled his vendetta with Gawker by funding Hulk Hogan’s lawsuit.
Do NOT settle.
Disney wanted to promote strong women, when they found one of the strongest, they simply couldn't handle it
Well, they couldn’t tick her “gay” and “lame” checkboxes. So she was fair game.
It's sending a message against THE MESSAGE 😂
I watched a Razorfist stream recently, and he said that it might be smarter for Elon to buy up Disney properties like Star Wars so that they become increasingly irrelevant over the next few years. Then he can swoop in and buy the company for probably much less than he would spend now.
OMG, Elon buying Disney? The weeping and gnashing of teeth that would cause.
Coupled with a possible Second term for the bad orange man in the Whitehouse? They will go apeshit!
Despite Iger's best attempts, Disney's too expensive.
Nice to see my comment is just gone but youtube still delivers reply updates as though my comment is still there.
Elon can't afford it.
@@walkir2662 It's more likely the internal proxy fight will put Peltz and Perlmutter in charge than Elon swooping in and taking over. That's probably what this is really about. Musk is supporting the board takeover
Bob: “fuck you elon, we pulling disney adverts off twitter!”
Elon: “fuck you bob, ill buy disney just so i can put the disney adverts back on twitter! I mean X!”
When can we start calling it Twix? Everybody loves a Twix.
Men who can be bought do not understand men who cannot be bought.
That's some serious revisionism on Elon's take over of Twiiter. Dude made an offer for a joke, waived his right of due diligence and got forced to finish the deal by the courts. He definitely didn't want it until the lawsuit told him he did.
Nearly ever line in this vid is a wrong
Sad thing is that if the social media handler for Disney had left it at, "Ms. Carrano is not currently under contract with Disney, and there are no plans to put her on contract in the future," they would have been find. But the handler just had to go on and, using the Official Disney Account, describes her views as "abhorrent and repugnant." They deserve the pain that is coming.
The apology must be as loud and as public as the disrespect.
Apologize for what?
I really hope it goes to discovery.
I hope it goes further, I hope it gos to the point where the judge says, ‘Gina.. you really write these tweets? Are you a &$@$ing moron or something?”
Does Disney even have some money left to try buy off Gina Carano off court settlement after they suffer a lot of flops and money losses with their failure of movies and shows?
No amount of will get Gina to shut up. She's in it for the truth to be put out into the public.
They're actively trying to burn at _least_ $300,000,000 on a new _Pirates of the Carribean_ they're going to give _The Little Mermaid_ treatment to, all without Johnny Depp.
That's exactly where the confidence comes from. Disney is in hellfire and pretending everything is okay for some deranged reason and continues to double down on their agenda despite the obvious financial leakage but this is a bluff and a sign of weakness so if noted figures will test waters and sue, perhaps they might succeed since they feel Disney is this delusional.
Yes it's still pocket change to them, but I hope they go the distance to teach the biotches of Disney a lesson.
As the blackrock money keeps coming then sadly yes, but that could dry up at anytime.
In a sane world nothing Gina wrote would be seen as controversial but we don't even live adjacent to a sane world.
Well realistically any time the treatment of Jews in WW2 comes up, or especially gets used in comparison/metaphor, people get their panties in a bunch. So in that respect, I would argue that what Carano said WAS controversial. But 1) It was significantly less controversial than the similar post made by Pedro Pascal, and he didn't get fired. And 2) just because what Carano said could be considered controversial, doesn't mean it wasn't true.
Also Disney's assertion that her comments were "denigrating" to minorities was a bunch of dishonest, emotionally manipulative crap. Nothing about what Carano said denigrated anybody. She just made the point that people shouldn't hate each other for their political views, and that continuing to do so could lead to worse things. Which is a perfectly reasonable opinion.
“it’s not about money, it’s about sending a message”
Strange things are afoot at the Circled K... and Disney.
The chickens are coming home to roost, Bobby Boucher.
Guys surprised you are not checking this but she is using California workers law in her favor not only that but she is a fighter
I for one welcome our comically fun South African corporate overlord...
At the very least I’m watching with a tub of popcorn and my tinfoil hat ready.
@@albusvoltavern4500 I'm just saying, with him among the ultra rich in the future, I'm just waiting till this timeline goes full on Cyberpunk.
Nice to see someone able to admit they're a fan of the blood gemstone industry.
It’s all about the timing. The drivel coming out of the Dizney own studios isn’t drawing flies. The parks are stagnating. The losses from streaming are lessening…but still losses. This can only help Peltz.
There was NOTHING controversial about ANY of her posts. Absolutely nothing.
I stand with Gina! Who agrees? 😎🤙🏻
yes, as was stated in the lawsuit, we need to stand with an "innocent women who was discriminated aganst compared to her male collegues".
i love when strong females suddenly become weak and defensless when it suits them.
Gina's theme song is The Black Keys' murder ballad "Ten Cent Pistol"
She hit them with her ten cent pistol
Because they ruined her name
Well she hit them with her ten cent pistol
And they've never been the same
There's nothing worse
In this world
Than pay-back from a
A jealous girl
The laws of man, they don't apply
When blood gets in a woman's eye
Lovely to see (or hear) Baggage Claim! I really like the dynamic in the gang in this episode.
The thing with Gina Carano is the whole thing was started by some trolls acting as the "pronoun police". She simply said she didn't want to put them in her bio. That's it.
Elon is pissed at Bob Iger and Disney. He’s looking to hurt their bottom line, like they did to him when they pulled advertisement off X due to false accusations of Elon being antisemitic.
And I’m all for the ride.
Elon should compensate Gina whatever is offered by Disney to settle personally behind the scenes simply to continue pushing for discovery.
I work in a warehouse for a major international company, and we've straight out been warned that our social media can be used against us at work.
It's not the firing that is legally a problem. You can fire anyone for any reason(unless they have an ironclad contract). You can fire them if you don't like the shoes they wear.
What you absolutely can not do is slander someone you have fired and call them a bigot. That is why Disney is in trouble here.
It is, actually. California state law says it's illegal to fire an employee for their political affiliation. So she's good from that angle too.
@@jackinthebox301 Learn something new every day.
That seems like an astonishingly sensible law. I just wonder how often/fairly it is enforced in a state like California.
@@Zayphar Yeah, that's the wild card here. Will a judge in California be a-political enough to follow the law? God, what happened to our country that I have to say that.
@@jackinthebox301 A-she wasn’t fired. B-she took it to federal court.
It’s not slander if it’s true.
Would Kennedy and Iger have do depose on if this go to trial? Maybe it is part of the end game.
That would be fun!
Also social media clauses are very common in contracts......
Extremely, especially for Disney. Though.. doesn’t matter much, her contract ran out, she wasn’t fired.
Discovery WILL BE interesting.
I think that she would consider going back to Disney if Peltz and others like him are making changes at the company.
The last time he joked about buying something he brought it. In order to make it too expensive to buy the company Disney will have to start making money again which means it has to make good entertainment again. If they keep failing he'll be able to buy them. Either way Elon wins.
I’d like to think it’ll cause a watershed moment for how companies handle this sort of thing… but it won’t.
At least Ms Carano will get some justice.
She won’t. She’ll embarrass herself.
Elon sounds more like Tony Stark than Lex Luthor.
Although I guess in this analogy instead of weapons, he started with a funny car for douches in California to drive.
Bezos is Lex Luthor, lol.
@ChimenExpress You know what else Elon and Walt are both called? The futurist. Not a coincidence.
You're a fool, then.
Good perspectives in this conversation. Elon buying Disney would make sense and fits into X is the Everything app. Public square, financial transactions, entertainment. Please let Disparu know it's X not Twitter. 😄 Critical Drinker makes the best videos!
If I was Gina, I would settle with one condition:
Fire Kathleen Kennedy now.
What is so ironic is that Disney actually had a real strong female character, then fired her for being a strong female.
I work for a major automotive company, their policy is if you have them as your employer on a social media site you represent them 24/7 and they will and have terminated people for things posted on FB , I don't have them as my employer on there anymore
Standing with Gina? Yes
Standing with Elon? I get “Apathy is Death” vibes from Elon.
Fair enough to Gina, I hope she wins. Elon on the other hand couldn’t give a fig about free speech in Eastern Europe as long as his buddy Putin gets his way.
You could tell the Mando and Grogu movie was a hail mary pitch to try and pump investor interest. The poster looked like something any 12 year old could have made in MS paint lol.
I hope Disney learns their lesson, don’t mess with powerful and rich people. Hope Elon buys Disney, justice for Gina 🎉
The US Title VII of the Civil Rights Act of 1964 bans private employers from discrimination on the basis of race, color, sex, national origin, or religion. So one cannot be fired due to race, color, sex, national origin, or religion. Other reasons are harassment or retaliation.Other than these reasons US employers can fire an employee for just about any reason. So Gina Carano has a tough case to prove and win.
Yep. It's unclear if she's suing for wrongful termination, defamation, or both. If defamation, that's a tall order when you're a public person. The quote she references is "... her social media posts denigrating people based on their cultural & religious identities are abhorrent & unacceptable.”
@@LedPage
Lets take a moment to let it sink in that the left has literally stooped to defending nazis.
To make matters worse, I sorely doubt that Disney-an extremely litigious corporation with a century's worth of experience in the courtroom-would have worded a statement regarding an employee's termination in a manner that exposes them to future litigation.
* Disney sees this title and comments section *
"Hello Gina, can we settle outside of court please?"
Lmao wtf
Real life Game of Thrones
Holy shit Endymion is part of the crew now?!? Dope man!
I hope there is NO settlement. We all want to see what's REALLY going at Disney.
Clearly Elon is just gearing up to die and leave his vast fortune to the first person who can solve his VR scavenger hunt full of movie and video game references.
That would make a great book...
@@samdherring well, it would make an okay book that leans too hard on its pile of references. But the weird thing is, you end up reading it more often than some of your other, better books.
I'm no fanboy of his, but Elon is no dumby. He's a shrewd businessman and realizes the potential that Disney's IPs (Marvel, SW, etc.) has to turn serious profit if they went back to entertaining instead of their bogus culture war agenda. I hope he does get to acquire them.
Yes!
This whole situation has led to me developing some real interest & respect for Elon Musk. While I still dislike most of what he does, this push of his is looking good. To help people like Gina who have been wronged by overly powerful and corrupt companies over personal opinions. To push out the crowds that are destroying entertainment and social culture. And knowing he is a self-propelled force that cannot be bought or influenced by money. I may regret this in the future, but Godspeed you Musk.
Its great disney wont be able to bury Caranos case in court costs until she goes away. Hold them accountable for being such obvious hypocrites
Let’s go Gina and Elon! I hope they drag Disney’s bs out from the shadows so everyone knows.
Yeah calm your tits. They aren't doing anything to disney
Hell hath no fury...than a trained MMA fighter.
I wise person once said "Don't try to ruin my life with lies when your life can be ruined with the truth"
She needs to refuse to settle. Bringing the case to discovery is the whole purpose of this legal action.
Completely agree with BC. This is to expose Disney and the Twitterate. The content of twit should be available to the owner.
I wonder if Elon is familiar with the old Star Wars expanded universe. If not people should tweet him about characters like Mara Jade, Kyle Katarn, the Solo twins, etc
I think we'd all love to see a Reva movie. It would make The Marvels look like a huge success.
I think this is great. I think Disney has gotten very comfortable with the way that they treat people and the things that they do because they know they are so financially secure that nobody will ever really stand up against them. Having the financial backing of someone like Elon Musk is a huge benefit and I don't think Gina is the type of person who's going to back down or settle. She more than has a valid case and I believe will see it through all the way. I think we're seeing a trend beginning to start that I really appreciate where in cases like Amber Heard versus Johnny Depp and Evan Rachel Wood versus Marilyn Manson that we're not letting people get away with defamation and character assassination anymore. This could very well be a historical turning of the tide and I'm here for it
Its always nice to here this guy's actual voice and not his insufferable "critic voice" on most of his videos
Not a chance in the world she settles. It is not about money. Bring on the discovery!
I have been saying for years that Iger is tanking Disney deliberatly so he can put it in a position for hostile takeover. The assets are enormous both intellectual and physical. I would love it so much if Elon swooped in and bought it out from under Iger because Iger was greedy and wanted to get a better deal and was willing to tank it further.
Seeing how well Twitter is doing after elon took over this may be the only way to get rid of Disney forever.
Seriously that man is like King Midas, only that everything he touches turns to shit XD
This is a slam dunk discrimination and defamation lawsuit.
Imagine how ridiculous Disney is going to look when they have to start reading their internal emails in court.
I really hope that they do in fact push it till the end...it will have a much bigger payout if the lawsuit can damage Disney enough for a joint Musk takeover
I haven’t been this excited about something related to Disney since the announced development of the last released Avengers movies.
I hope they both make a real public example of Disney.
We are in the End Game now.
Why wouldn’t Elon buy Disney? I think that’s exactly what he has in mind.