Hello all, two bits of good news: 1. Preorder the Apollo City 2022 and SAVE $200 with code "city2022preorder" - Use link in description. 2. Updated Specs (For Dual Motor Version - City Pro): - 48V 18Ah battery, instead of 13.5Ah (The result: 38-mile maximum range vs 25-miles) - Maximum rider weight of 265 lbs (120 kg), instead of 220 lbs (100 kg) - New price $1,799, instead of $1,699
Amazing Review! I was just looking through your website and I couldn't find anything about realistic milage on the Apollo City 2022. Were you able to test for it's Realistic range when on the fastest mode for the dual motor version?
Great review mate 👍 I have a City Pro coming via Apollo's Aussie distributor Electric Kicks. Thanks to your review along with your fellow Englishman 'Ride N Glide' I hope to be one of the very first Aussie's to show it off in my home City of Brisbane Anyway very comprehensive and thorough review (best and most informative thus far) very well done, obviously alot of planning went into this video it is very much appreciated here down under.
Awesome! Thanks for the support - these videos take a huge amount of time, effort, and investment so I'm glad to hear that you think it's the most informative one you've watched! Enjoy the City Pro!
Great review I have a city pro on it’s way! The City has a 48v 13.5Ah Pro has 48v 18Ah and IP 66 on the pro. I had an accident at 20mph on a $500 solid tire e scooter and it hurt all over! so 32mph is fast enough although it will fly with my 155lbs on the City Pro! banging intro!
Hi ! very interesting video because im trying to decide between the apollo city PRO 2022 vs Apollo Explorer vs Apollo Ghost. I cant go for the phantom because it would be too heavy for me, im a girl but im strong enough to lift 60 pounds. From what im understanding in your video, ur saying Apollo city 2022 is expensive compared to other models in the market ? I live in canada so theres not many choice for me :( But i looked on the spec for Apollo city 2022 and the range is plenty enough for me and the speed, i live in the city so i doubt ill go at the maximum. I was thinking about the EMOVE Cruiser too but i dont think they will offer lots of help if i live in Canada with warranty and stuff *ill rarely use the subway or bus because the point using the scooter is save money and I live second floor in my apartment building so its not too bad.
First of all, great review! I thoroughly enjoyed watching it! I live in NYC and I was going to purchase this scooter as a companion city commuter scooter on days when I needed something more portable than my beefier scooter. However, though this scooter is very cool making great strides for innovation, once the specs were revealed and price point, it turned me off. This is not a compact and portable scooter, the Dual Motor version is heavier than their Ghost model. I think they are doing great innovations at Apollo, but missed what a City commuter is looking for : portability (lighter weight) , range, build quality, and a reasonable price. I wouldn't purchase it because the specs don't line up with the price point and my overall needs for city commuting such as carrying it into the subway or up a couple flights of stairs in my Aparment building, and I honestly think something like an EMOVE Cruiser would do the job much better (though it's not as flashy looking). I hope to see Apollo make a true city rider scooter that has the features I mentioned. Until then, I'll wait and save my money.
Hi Nicole, thanks - we put alot of effort into it so I'm glad it was appreciated! I agree that it is a little on the heavy side - however, I found that the extra weight made the scooter far more enjoyable to ride than lighter alternatives. Hope you find the perfect scooter soon! You should check out our website since we have guides on pretty much every type of scooter (light, commuter, fast...you name it!) - www.electricscooterinsider.com/
I had a toss up between the dualtron spider v2 (57 lbs), kaabo mavic v2 (65 lbs), and this apollo city pro (67 lbs). I didn’t want to go above 60 lbs but i realized i would have to for the performance needs. Good speed, range, suspension, appearance but i got a flat on my first scoot, the difficulty and hassle led to get the city pro. I really wanted the spider v2 (for the weight) but on occasion i would have to lock the scooter up and the screaming dualtron branding all over the scooter says “steal me, i’m expensive” which is not a comfortable feeling in nyc. I won’t take it on mass transit like you plan to, so you do have a lot of lightweight options, check esg, they just did a lightweight comparison.
Hey, looking at Apollo’s page, the single motor is supposed to have a 25 mile range and the dual motor is supposed to have a 38 mile range. But in your review you say they’re both supposed to have 25. Is this a mistake, or do they both only have 25 mile range? Did you range test city 2022 pro?
A range test would be helpful since we can only pre order. Meanwhile the e scooter influencer doesn't do a true range test. He's just selling the scooter since he got a free model
Great thorough review! One thing I think may have been missed here is you listed the dual speed as 32MPH but it's 34MPH/55KM/H. And when you compared the ghost to the city 2022 you said the ghost may be a better option because it is 6MPH faster, but that's only true for the lower spec single motor city 2022, the dual city is 34MPH/55KMH same speed as the ghost. Only reason I noticed is because I'm looking to buy either the ghost or the city 2022 dual right now lol could you answer me this since it'll definitely help my decision, though top speed is the same between the ghost and dual city 2022, you mentioned the ghost has 43% faster acceleration. I take it that's from stronger motors and 52v battery vs 48v, but can you tell me what factors you included in that calculation and if you factored in the city 2022's new 21700 cell battery which has higher discharge/power output to the motors? I was just surprised ghost could still be that much faster acceleration all things considered. Thanks for your scooter wisdom in advance!!
Hi Jamie, thanks for your comment and feedback. The 43% figure is based on the single motor City vs the Ghost. All of the factors for the acceleration tests we do are the same (165 lbs rider, flat terrain, scooter in its highest speed setting). Some scooters pull away quicker because of motor size but also a big component is the controller (s) which pulls the power from the battery. In regards to the Ghost, the main difference lies in the motor size. In terms of which model you should go after, it comes down to how you ride. If you plan to stick to urban environments, I'd go for the dual City. It's extremely well-equipped for cruising city streets and the acceleration to 15 mph is a close match to the Ghost but the Ghost will pull away past 15 mph. On the other hand, if you want a model that is more versatile (ie. riding it though the city but also on dirt tracks) then I'd go for the Ghost. Hope that helps!
Ah, that makes sense! Thanks for providing the clarity. It's super helpful here. Do you have any idea what the percentage difference in acceleration would be between the dual motor city and the ghost? Or what's the Ghost 0-25km/h acceleration? I heard dual city is 0-25km/h in about 2.9 seconds. Also, I live downtown Toronto and will be pretty much exclusively. Only riding this in the city streets, so if they are that close in acceleration from start and the same top speed and I won't be using these off-road I think I have my decision to go with this city 2022. Thanks so much for the help! I can sleep easy knowing I made the right choice now haha
@@Majortrader8 sure thing! For context the ghost hits 15 mph in 2.3 seconds. Ultimately, in practice the 0.6 second difference is unnoticeable. Hopefully that confirms your decision even further! P.s. If you buy the new City through this link - www.electricscooterinsider.com/go/youtube-apollo-city-2022-review - Apollo will see that I sent you and may give me a commission. This helps us to make these in-depth reviews
Where is the best place on the city pro to run a lock/chain to secure it to some degree? The kick plate would be a likely place but it seems there are hex bolts holding it. Second, you rode on cobblestone streets which is really rough on any scooter/rider, what is your assessment on the suspension comparison? And did you do any suspension changes? I would replace the handgrips, will that be a simple diy? Thanks for the great review and comparisons. I was on the fence on the apollo city pro, kaabo mantis v2, dualtron spider2, i ended up buying the city pro dual. My reasons, self seal tires and drum brakes which lessens the need for maintenance. No fears of bent/worn disc brakes or hours walking home with a flat tire with the need to fix it. Also, i like the space grey (unlike the ubiquitous all black scooters) with orange accents and the fresh design. Expected cons, I will need to rinse off the footprints that’s expected on the rubber footprint magnet deck, I’ll lose braking power, accessorizing (horn, less expensive phone holder) the designer handlebars will not be easy. On the hook’s loose connection to the deck, maybe attaching a magnet will help keep the hook attached, assuming it’s not aluminum.
Excellent review, after owning several electric scooters and having constant flats and issues with hydraulic brakes leaking fluid, Self healing tires and drum brakes sound awesome and low maintenance... I'm thinking of buying, if I do I will use your link for sure.
What a great review! 👏 I'm thinking about buying the Apollo City 2022 Pro it simple and realible based on your review. - Do you think that i would be good for first time user of e-scooter like my self? - What is the "realistic" km range of Apollo City 2022 Pro? - And lastly how do you lock it with a cable lock or any similar lock for security? Thank you!
I'm pretty sure I'm about to buy the Apollo City Pro single motor. It has all of the specs I'm looking for and seems to be of excellent build quality. I purchased the Niu Kqi3 pro which is an excellent scooter but I realize after riding it for a couple of weeks that I need suspension, more speed, turn signals and thumb accessible buttons instead of a single button on a center console. The Apollo City 2022 seems to include all the features I need. 🤞🙏
I actually watched most of the review since I was seriously contemplating this scooter when it was first announced. I have a question for you, I'm a little confused if you consider your channel and reviews to be "unbiased" as they say, it seems that both you and Electric Scooter Guide are plugging the Apollo brand, so I'm wondering if you can address if you are being paid a fee by the brand to promote it?! Not that you aren't thorough and very detailed, but seems a little heavy-handed toward pitching it in my opinion given the less than exciting specs of the machine. And the fact that if we did catch onto the horrible specs of the New Apollo City our first alternative choice should be another Apollo branded scooter, the Apollo Ghost. The reason it also seems a bit suspect is that while I like the upgrades, this scooter has some major drawbacks that seemed to be gently glossed over., any person who's into E-Scooters would pick them out off the bat. The worst offenders are that this thing is cumbersome and too heavy for a commuter scooter particularly compared to their last City which was only 39lbs. It's called the "City" yet those of us who live in real urban Cities couldn't justify carrying around the additional 20lbs Apollo has added to their old model to attempt to carry this as another reviewer said up stairs and into our office buildings and apartments which often require several flights of stairs. Just not doable in real world use or for anyone who isn't incredibly fit and strong which would eliminate many of the smaller framed riders and (most) women. The other things that are off about it are: the range is really lousy for the price and weight. It is outshined by so so many other scooters with range and bang for your buck. Something I also was a little shocked to see was the really awful hill-climbing grade spec on this, particularly the single motor model. For a City designed model, 10% is insane and mostly useless unless your City it flat as a pancake which most cities including mine are not. Since I took the time to watch the whole thing, I hope you don't mind that I took the time to write a real response to it and to ask some questions. I do really enjoy your channel but I wish Apollo had thought more about this and will continue to work on their models to meet their riders needs and expectations. -
Hey! Great comment and happy to answer! Are the reviews unbiased: Yes. Apollo haven't paid us to create the video. All of the investment needed to make the video came out of my pocket - this is because I'm set on becoming the authority in the space so whatever it takes I'll do it! I'd also recommend reading through our values (particular the impartial one) which you can read more of here: www.electricscooterinsider.com/how-we-conduct-our-electric-scooter-research/#impartial-advice. A key value for our brand is that we show you the good and bad to let you be the judge. I know that from my own experiences when I am researching products I don't just want to see a reviewer say XYZ is amazing for every product since then its hard to distinguish what's good and bad. With this in mind, I make sure to highlight the areas that I think are lacking and I'm not afraid to put scooters under scrutiny (on our website I've even rated some 3/10 despite having invested considerable time, effort, and money into the reviews). To support our rigorous scooter review and editorial process, we rely on affiliate commissions. These are at no cost to you and are a common way of supporting RUclips channels. If you watch our videos, find a scooter that you like, and click through to the retailer then we may earn a commission. We only earn a commission if you purchase a scooter and are happy with it. If you decide that you don’t like it and return it, we don’t earn a commission. Ultimately, my goal is to help you find the right scooter and if that's not any that we have reviewed but our reviews still help you in your search then that's good by me. The alternatives picked are based on what we think riders would benefit from the most, so although we featured the Ghost, we also have the EMOVE Cruiser and INOKIM Quick 4 as two great choices, and in parts of the review I even say to opt for the EMOVE Cruiser if range is what you are after. Understood on the weight side of things - on the one hand I agree that it's not as ideal as lighter models that have telescopic stems and foldable handlebars (like the INOKIM Quick 4), but on the other, the added weight made the scooter feel so much better to ride. Maximum range - we have spoken to Apollo about this, along with many other reviewers and riders, and they have made last minute changes to increase the battery in the dual motor version (City Pro) to 18Ah instead of 13.5Ah for just an extra $100
@@ElectricScooterInsider Thanks for the thoroughness of your response, Joshua (I believe that's your name, correct me if I'm wrong). It definitely brings some more clarification. So many times RUclips PEV reviewers of scooters are paid either in a free product or a product commission, so it's hard to know how much of wanting to continue to build that work relationship impacts a reviewer's ability to remain impartial in doing these reviews. Regardless, I do like what you're doing here and enjoy the channel. I hope to see more reviews of escooters you're excited about coming out in 2022! Surely there must be one out there that checks all the boxes. To me the INOKIM scooters and Minimotors Scooters look the best and most impressive at the moment! I also am curious where you are based? Since I don't recognize the city and environment you're shooting these videos in.
Really needs to have front indicators as well in my view and proper support in place from any sellers outside Canada and the US and would like to see what it looks like in all black! Other than that this is a great effort from Apollo, the maintenance side alone is great with drum breaks and tubeless puncture proof tyres. And the ip rating is great for places like the Uk. Just hope the law changes this year as planned in the Uk and the spec restrictions don’t stop the selling of the dual motor version! 😀
The Apollo Phantom has a useful (especially at night) option that improves visibility by allowing the turn signals to operate simultaneously, acting as hazard lights. Does Apollo City 2022 also have this option? If not, how difficult is it to add this option to the Apollo City 2022?
did i miss a trunk /boot demo on this ?? I scooter to my car and always need to see how easy it is to get in a car boot ... so many youtube vids miss this out .. ??
Thank you for an informative review. I’m new to e-scooters and I’m deciding between the Apollo City Pro 2022 and the Vsett 9+ for a quality commuter on Seattle's hilly streets. I’d greatly appreciate if you would let me know your thoughts on how they compare - pros and cons. Thank you.
Good to know the handlebars won’t wobble on the retail units. I just ordered a city pro and I have an air pro and have had to get 2 replacement handlebars from Apollo because they wobble so much that they strip the threading in the handlebar that the screw goes into even tho I tighten them after every ride. Royal pain in the ass
It depends on how you ride. If you plan to stick to urban environments, I'd go for the dual City. It's extremely well-equipped for cruising city streets and the acceleration to 15 mph is a close match to the Ghost but the Ghost will pull away past 15 mph. On the other hand, if you want a model that is more versatile (ie. riding it though the city but also on dirt tracks) then I'd go for the Ghost. Hope that helps!
Do not buy their scooters especially if you're not in Canada, their support system is worst than third world and they now how bad it is they don't have a phone line to speak directly with a representative . I purchased an apolo air 1 year ago and it came out of the box inoperable and it's sitting at a scooter shop in Miami waiting for Apollo to send the correct part after sending the wrong part 3 x
Really need your advice: 1. Would you recommend this over the Ghost for climbing hills in SF? 2. What does maintenance entail for the Ghost? Is it that bad to the point that I should lean more towards the City 2022? Thanks in advance!
Hey, sure: 1. The single motor City 2022 can climb 10 degrees, the dual motor City 2022 can climb 20 degrees, and the Ghost can climb 25 degrees. Ultimately, the Ghost is a better hill-climber. If you wanted to opt for the City, you would for sure want the dual motor model. 2. The two main maintenance areas for the Ghost are replacing punctured tires and re-aligning / adjusting the disc brakes. Plus, if you opt for the hydraulic brakes, there could be maintenance required where you may need to release any bubbles in the hydraulic oil reservoir. The City, on the other hand, has drum brakes which can be adjusted by hand and do not fade like discs. The City also has the puncture-proof tires which are a huge advantage for minimizing tire maintenance.
@@ElectricScooterInsider Thanks for the thorough response. Do you think I can push the City 2022 dual motor above 20°, given that I only weigh 160 lbs?
@@stayingshredded I don't think so - the degree figure is based on a 165 lbs rider so the 5 lbs difference won't make a difference. Also, it's worth opting for a model that has a max incline grade beyond the inclines you need to climb since any scooter will slow and become extremely sluggish at the height of its max incline.
A scooter that caught my eye and I’m interested in getting is the KingSong KS N10+ 600W it is on sale currently for 1000$ can and spec wise look hard to beat…
you may want to update this on your review, since it is very important for a lot of people in between the 220 - 265 lbs range. (The Apollo City 2022 Pro has a max rider weight of 265 lbs)
@damiendegrasse8673 Lot's of birthpains with the Apollo even in2023!!!😢😮. Just redad the honest & rarer reviews!!! Also the so many complaints from custumer remorses!!!$$$😮😢
Hey, some good news that you may be interested in - the Dual motor version (City Pro) can support up to 265 lbs vs 220 lbs. It has also had a last minute change to the battery to be equipped with an 18.2Ah battery instead of a 13.5Ah one. This results is 13 extra miles of ride time.
Hello all, two bits of good news:
1. Preorder the Apollo City 2022 and SAVE $200 with code "city2022preorder" - Use link in description.
2. Updated Specs (For Dual Motor Version - City Pro):
- 48V 18Ah battery, instead of 13.5Ah (The result: 38-mile maximum range vs 25-miles)
- Maximum rider weight of 265 lbs (120 kg), instead of 220 lbs (100 kg)
- New price $1,799, instead of $1,699
Do you know if the people who already pre-ordered will get the updated specs or will I have to contact Apollo and ask for it?
Excellent and thorough review! Truly appreciate you taking the time to put this together.
Amazing Review! I was just looking through your website and I couldn't find anything about realistic milage on the Apollo City 2022. Were you able to test for it's Realistic range when on the fastest mode for the dual motor version?
I am fairly certain this is what I should get for commute, but I can't stop thinking of splurging for the nami burn e
Great review mate 👍 I have a City Pro coming via Apollo's Aussie distributor Electric Kicks. Thanks to your review along with your fellow Englishman 'Ride N Glide' I hope to be one of the very first Aussie's to show it off in my home City of Brisbane Anyway very comprehensive and thorough review (best and most informative thus far) very well done, obviously alot of planning went into this video it is very much appreciated here down under.
Awesome! Thanks for the support - these videos take a huge amount of time, effort, and investment so I'm glad to hear that you think it's the most informative one you've watched! Enjoy the City Pro!
Great review I have a city pro on it’s way! The City has a 48v 13.5Ah Pro has 48v 18Ah and IP 66 on the pro. I had an accident at 20mph on a $500 solid tire e scooter and it hurt all over! so 32mph is fast enough although it will fly with my 155lbs on the City Pro! banging intro!
I’m buying it because you did a tremendous job selling me this scooter. And helped me greatly because I was super confused about the Apollo options!
Hi ! very interesting video because im trying to decide between the apollo city PRO 2022 vs Apollo Explorer vs Apollo Ghost. I cant go for the phantom because it would be too heavy for me, im a girl but im strong enough to lift 60 pounds. From what im understanding in your video, ur saying Apollo city 2022 is expensive compared to other models in the market ? I live in canada so theres not many choice for me :( But i looked on the spec for Apollo city 2022 and the range is plenty enough for me and the speed, i live in the city so i doubt ill go at the maximum.
I was thinking about the EMOVE Cruiser too but i dont think they will offer lots of help if i live in Canada with warranty and stuff
*ill rarely use the subway or bus because the point using the scooter is save money and I live second floor in my apartment building so its not too bad.
Canadian Tire sells the Ninebot by Segway $1200.00 cdn.
First of all, great review! I thoroughly enjoyed watching it! I live in NYC and I was going to purchase this scooter as a companion city commuter scooter on days when I needed something more portable than my beefier scooter. However, though this scooter is very cool making great strides for innovation, once the specs were revealed and price point, it turned me off. This is not a compact and portable scooter, the Dual Motor version is heavier than their Ghost model. I think they are doing great innovations at Apollo, but missed what a City commuter is looking for : portability (lighter weight) , range, build quality, and a reasonable price. I wouldn't purchase it because the specs don't line up with the price point and my overall needs for city commuting such as carrying it into the subway or up a couple flights of stairs in my Aparment building, and I honestly think something like an EMOVE Cruiser would do the job much better (though it's not as flashy looking). I hope to see Apollo make a true city rider scooter that has the features I mentioned. Until then, I'll wait and save my money.
Hi Nicole, thanks - we put alot of effort into it so I'm glad it was appreciated! I agree that it is a little on the heavy side - however, I found that the extra weight made the scooter far more enjoyable to ride than lighter alternatives. Hope you find the perfect scooter soon! You should check out our website since we have guides on pretty much every type of scooter (light, commuter, fast...you name it!) - www.electricscooterinsider.com/
I had a toss up between the dualtron spider v2 (57 lbs), kaabo mavic v2 (65 lbs), and this apollo city pro (67 lbs). I didn’t want to go above 60 lbs but i realized i would have to for the performance needs. Good speed, range, suspension, appearance but i got a flat on my first scoot, the difficulty and hassle led to get the city pro. I really wanted the spider v2 (for the weight) but on occasion i would have to lock the scooter up and the screaming dualtron branding all over the scooter says “steal me, i’m expensive” which is not a comfortable feeling in nyc. I won’t take it on mass transit like you plan to, so you do have a lot of lightweight options, check esg, they just did a lightweight comparison.
As a fellow nyer id heavily reccomeng the emove cruiser or even the unagi
It’s such a clean design. That’s the only selling point for me I would have gotten the ghost other wise
A real range test would be helpful since you have one on hand. While normal consumers can only pre order at the moment.
What an utterly fantastic review!!!!
Can you tell me the deck width at the rear of the deck?
Hey, looking at Apollo’s page, the single motor is supposed to have a 25 mile range and the dual motor is supposed to have a 38 mile range. But in your review you say they’re both supposed to have 25. Is this a mistake, or do they both only have 25 mile range? Did you range test city 2022 pro?
A range test would be helpful since we can only pre order. Meanwhile the e scooter influencer doesn't do a true range test. He's just selling the scooter since he got a free model
Great thorough review! One thing I think may have been missed here is you listed the dual speed as 32MPH but it's 34MPH/55KM/H. And when you compared the ghost to the city 2022 you said the ghost may be a better option because it is 6MPH faster, but that's only true for the lower spec single motor city 2022, the dual city is 34MPH/55KMH same speed as the ghost. Only reason I noticed is because I'm looking to buy either the ghost or the city 2022 dual right now lol could you answer me this since it'll definitely help my decision, though top speed is the same between the ghost and dual city 2022, you mentioned the ghost has 43% faster acceleration. I take it that's from stronger motors and 52v battery vs 48v, but can you tell me what factors you included in that calculation and if you factored in the city 2022's new 21700 cell battery which has higher discharge/power output to the motors? I was just surprised ghost could still be that much faster acceleration all things considered. Thanks for your scooter wisdom in advance!!
Hi Jamie, thanks for your comment and feedback. The 43% figure is based on the single motor City vs the Ghost. All of the factors for the acceleration tests we do are the same (165 lbs rider, flat terrain, scooter in its highest speed setting). Some scooters pull away quicker because of motor size but also a big component is the controller (s) which pulls the power from the battery. In regards to the Ghost, the main difference lies in the motor size. In terms of which model you should go after, it comes down to how you ride. If you plan to stick to urban environments, I'd go for the dual City. It's extremely well-equipped for cruising city streets and the acceleration to 15 mph is a close match to the Ghost but the Ghost will pull away past 15 mph. On the other hand, if you want a model that is more versatile (ie. riding it though the city but also on dirt tracks) then I'd go for the Ghost. Hope that helps!
Ah, that makes sense! Thanks for providing the clarity. It's super helpful here. Do you have any idea what the percentage difference in acceleration would be between the dual motor city and the ghost? Or what's the Ghost 0-25km/h acceleration? I heard dual city is 0-25km/h in about 2.9 seconds. Also, I live downtown Toronto and will be pretty much exclusively. Only riding this in the city streets, so if they are that close in acceleration from start and the same top speed and I won't be using these off-road I think I have my decision to go with this city 2022. Thanks so much for the help! I can sleep easy knowing I made the right choice now haha
@@Majortrader8 sure thing! For context the ghost hits 15 mph in 2.3 seconds. Ultimately, in practice the 0.6 second difference is unnoticeable. Hopefully that confirms your decision even further! P.s. If you buy the new City through this link - www.electricscooterinsider.com/go/youtube-apollo-city-2022-review - Apollo will see that I sent you and may give me a commission. This helps us to make these in-depth reviews
I wouldn't trust their specs they got hill degree wrong and miles too..
Awesome review, Apollo are definitely making great strides in PEVs.
Glad you enjoyed it! It's a great scooter - they really nailed the features
killer review...Keep up the good work
Would this be ok for me? I'm 6ft 205lbs. Size 12 feet?
Yeah, According to Electric scooter guide the Apollo city has the 2nd tallest handlebar height they've tested so great for tall riders for sure.
Where is the best place on the city pro to run a lock/chain to secure it to some degree? The kick plate would be a likely place but it seems there are hex bolts holding it. Second, you rode on cobblestone streets which is really rough on any scooter/rider, what is your assessment on the suspension comparison? And did you do any suspension changes? I would replace the handgrips, will that be a simple diy? Thanks for the great review and comparisons. I was on the fence on the apollo city pro, kaabo mantis v2, dualtron spider2, i ended up buying the city pro dual. My reasons, self seal tires and drum brakes which lessens the need for maintenance. No fears of bent/worn disc brakes or hours walking home with a flat tire with the need to fix it. Also, i like the space grey (unlike the ubiquitous all black scooters) with orange accents and the fresh design. Expected cons, I will need to rinse off the footprints that’s expected on the rubber footprint magnet deck, I’ll lose braking power, accessorizing (horn, less expensive phone holder) the designer handlebars will not be easy. On the hook’s loose connection to the deck, maybe attaching a magnet will help keep the hook attached, assuming it’s not aluminum.
Pre ordered my city pro can’t wait for it to arrive!!
Excellent review, after owning several electric scooters and having constant flats and issues with hydraulic brakes leaking fluid, Self healing tires and drum brakes sound awesome and low maintenance... I'm thinking of buying, if I do I will use your link for sure.
What a great review! 👏
I'm thinking about buying the Apollo City 2022 Pro it simple and realible based on your review.
- Do you think that i would be good for first time user of e-scooter like my self?
- What is the "realistic" km range of Apollo City 2022 Pro?
- And lastly how do you lock it with a cable lock or any similar lock for security?
Thank you!
Top tier review homie!
Waiting to see segway's p100s before pulling the trigger on the apollo pro
Awesome review. Ordered my Apollo City 2022 Pro 👌
I'm pretty sure I'm about to buy the Apollo City Pro single motor. It has all of the specs I'm looking for and seems to be of excellent build quality. I purchased the Niu Kqi3 pro which is an excellent scooter but I realize after riding it for a couple of weeks that I need suspension, more speed, turn signals and thumb accessible buttons instead of a single button on a center console. The Apollo City 2022 seems to include all the features I need. 🤞🙏
You Crack me up man lol I subed to you as well and nice video
Why don't they correct the simple things like using full fenders not huggers?
I actually watched most of the review since I was seriously contemplating this scooter when it was first announced. I have a question for you, I'm a little confused if you consider your channel and reviews to be "unbiased" as they say, it seems that both you and Electric Scooter Guide are plugging the Apollo brand, so I'm wondering if you can address if you are being paid a fee by the brand to promote it?! Not that you aren't thorough and very detailed, but seems a little heavy-handed toward pitching it in my opinion given the less than exciting specs of the machine. And the fact that if we did catch onto the horrible specs of the New Apollo City our first alternative choice should be another Apollo branded scooter, the Apollo Ghost.
The reason it also seems a bit suspect is that while I like the upgrades, this scooter has some major drawbacks that seemed to be gently glossed over., any person who's into E-Scooters would pick them out off the bat. The worst offenders are that this thing is cumbersome and too heavy for a commuter scooter particularly compared to their last City which was only 39lbs. It's called the "City" yet those of us who live in real urban Cities couldn't justify carrying around the additional 20lbs Apollo has added to their old model to attempt to carry this as another reviewer said up stairs and into our office buildings and apartments which often require several flights of stairs. Just not doable in real world use or for anyone who isn't incredibly fit and strong which would eliminate many of the smaller framed riders and (most) women.
The other things that are off about it are: the range is really lousy for the price and weight. It is outshined by so so many other scooters with range and bang for your buck. Something I also was a little shocked to see was the really awful hill-climbing grade spec on this, particularly the single motor model. For a City designed model, 10% is insane and mostly useless unless your City it flat as a pancake which most cities including mine are not. Since I took the time to watch the whole thing, I hope you don't mind that I took the time to write a real response to it and to ask some questions. I do really enjoy your channel but I wish Apollo had thought more about this and will continue to work on their models to meet their riders needs and expectations. -
Hey! Great comment and happy to answer!
Are the reviews unbiased: Yes. Apollo haven't paid us to create the video. All of the investment needed to make the video came out of my pocket - this is because I'm set on becoming the authority in the space so whatever it takes I'll do it! I'd also recommend reading through our values (particular the impartial one) which you can read more of here: www.electricscooterinsider.com/how-we-conduct-our-electric-scooter-research/#impartial-advice. A key value for our brand is that we show you the good and bad to let you be the judge. I know that from my own experiences when I am researching products I don't just want to see a reviewer say XYZ is amazing for every product since then its hard to distinguish what's good and bad. With this in mind, I make sure to highlight the areas that I think are lacking and I'm not afraid to put scooters under scrutiny (on our website I've even rated some 3/10 despite having invested considerable time, effort, and money into the reviews). To support our rigorous scooter review and editorial process, we rely on affiliate commissions. These are at no cost to you and are a common way of supporting RUclips channels.
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The alternatives picked are based on what we think riders would benefit from the most, so although we featured the Ghost, we also have the EMOVE Cruiser and INOKIM Quick 4 as two great choices, and in parts of the review I even say to opt for the EMOVE Cruiser if range is what you are after.
Understood on the weight side of things - on the one hand I agree that it's not as ideal as lighter models that have telescopic stems and foldable handlebars (like the INOKIM Quick 4), but on the other, the added weight made the scooter feel so much better to ride.
Maximum range - we have spoken to Apollo about this, along with many other reviewers and riders, and they have made last minute changes to increase the battery in the dual motor version (City Pro) to 18Ah instead of 13.5Ah for just an extra $100
@@ElectricScooterInsider Thanks for the thoroughness of your response, Joshua (I believe that's your name, correct me if I'm wrong). It definitely brings some more clarification. So many times RUclips PEV reviewers of scooters are paid either in a free product or a product commission, so it's hard to know how much of wanting to continue to build that work relationship impacts a reviewer's ability to remain impartial in doing these reviews. Regardless, I do like what you're doing here and enjoy the channel. I hope to see more reviews of escooters you're excited about coming out in 2022! Surely there must be one out there that checks all the boxes. To me the INOKIM scooters and Minimotors Scooters look the best and most impressive at the moment! I also am curious where you are based? Since I don't recognize the city and environment you're shooting these videos in.
Really needs to have front indicators as well in my view and proper support in place from any sellers outside Canada and the US and would like to see what it looks like in all black! Other than that this is a great effort from Apollo, the maintenance side alone is great with drum breaks and tubeless puncture proof tyres. And the ip rating is great for places like the Uk. Just hope the law changes this year as planned in the Uk and the spec restrictions don’t stop the selling of the dual motor version! 😀
The Apollo Phantom has a useful (especially at night) option that improves visibility by allowing the turn signals to operate simultaneously, acting as hazard lights. Does Apollo City 2022 also have this option? If not, how difficult is it to add this option to the Apollo City 2022?
did i miss a trunk /boot demo on this ?? I scooter to my car and always need to see how easy it is to get in a car boot ... so many youtube vids miss this out .. ??
Thank you for an informative review. I’m new to e-scooters and I’m deciding between the Apollo City Pro 2022 and the Vsett 9+ for a quality commuter on Seattle's hilly streets. I’d greatly appreciate if you would let me know your thoughts on how they compare - pros and cons. Thank you.
If you plan to commute you definitely want self healing tires, tubed tires are very prone to flats and a hassle to change.
@@raulespinoza8668 Thank you for the heads up.
Man do you have a link for that helmet?
How do you switch single/dual motor on city pro? I email them but I don't see anyone doing it 😅
Good to know the handlebars won’t wobble on the retail units. I just ordered a city pro and I have an air pro and have had to get 2 replacement handlebars from Apollo because they wobble so much that they strip the threading in the handlebar that the screw goes into even tho I tighten them after every ride. Royal pain in the ass
I think you got range wrong it says city pro has 38 miles not 25, unless you guys did a self testing.
is the ghost still a better buy the the Apollo city pro? Seems like it gets the same range and the suspension is better.
It depends on how you ride. If you plan to stick to urban environments, I'd go for the dual City. It's extremely well-equipped for cruising city streets and the acceleration to 15 mph is a close match to the Ghost but the Ghost will pull away past 15 mph. On the other hand, if you want a model that is more versatile (ie. riding it though the city but also on dirt tracks) then I'd go for the Ghost. Hope that helps!
MUST have
Do not buy their scooters especially if you're not in Canada, their support system is worst than third world and they now how bad it is they don't have a phone line to speak directly with a representative . I purchased an apolo air 1 year ago and it came out of the box inoperable and it's sitting at a scooter shop in Miami waiting for Apollo to send the correct part after sending the wrong part 3 x
can the hand grips be changed for the Ergo grips?
Really need your advice:
1. Would you recommend this over the Ghost for climbing hills in SF?
2. What does maintenance entail for the Ghost? Is it that bad to the point that I should lean more towards the City 2022?
Thanks in advance!
Hey, sure:
1. The single motor City 2022 can climb 10 degrees, the dual motor City 2022 can climb 20 degrees, and the Ghost can climb 25 degrees. Ultimately, the Ghost is a better hill-climber. If you wanted to opt for the City, you would for sure want the dual motor model.
2. The two main maintenance areas for the Ghost are replacing punctured tires and re-aligning / adjusting the disc brakes. Plus, if you opt for the hydraulic brakes, there could be maintenance required where you may need to release any bubbles in the hydraulic oil reservoir. The City, on the other hand, has drum brakes which can be adjusted by hand and do not fade like discs. The City also has the puncture-proof tires which are a huge advantage for minimizing tire maintenance.
@@ElectricScooterInsider Thanks for the thorough response. Do you think I can push the City 2022 dual motor above 20°, given that I only weigh 160 lbs?
@@stayingshredded I don't think so - the degree figure is based on a 165 lbs rider so the 5 lbs difference won't make a difference. Also, it's worth opting for a model that has a max incline grade beyond the inclines you need to climb since any scooter will slow and become extremely sluggish at the height of its max incline.
@@ElectricScooterInsider Got it. I appreciate all your help and great content!
@@stayingshredded Thanks!
can you do a trunk test of this scooter in different cars
A scooter that caught my eye and I’m interested in getting is the KingSong KS N10+ 600W it is on sale currently for 1000$ can and spec wise look hard to beat…
I would recommend more concise presentation mate 42 minutes is longer than some documentaries on termites lol
👍 Great review can we have metric and Imperial measurements next time ?
Awesome to hear! We'll take that into account for the future!
I think it's perfect except for the range
extra 5 degrees? I think its 10 since regular city is 10, and pro is 20...
Great review ! ⚡️
Appreciate it 👍
When is this available in the market?
23rd March 2022
you may want to update this on your review, since it is very important for a lot of people in between the 220 - 265 lbs range. (The Apollo City 2022 Pro has a max rider weight of 265 lbs)
Sorry I seen you added it
You build an emove cruiser on the Apollo city 2022 body and you will have the greatest scooter ever designed.
Quality of Scooter.
what does a self healing tire even mean? they put slime inside the tire for you? lol
I really love their new design, I didn't like their old designs
The new design is an eye catcher
That's because the old ones were just custom spec chinese scooters, Appollo, as a company is just being born now.
@damiendegrasse8673 Lot's of birthpains with the Apollo even in2023!!!😢😮. Just redad the honest & rarer reviews!!!
Also the so many complaints from custumer remorses!!!$$$😮😢
Nice intro
Thanks!
I would have bought it, but they lowered the weight limit
Hey, some good news that you may be interested in - the Dual motor version (City Pro) can support up to 265 lbs vs 220 lbs. It has also had a last minute change to the battery to be equipped with an 18.2Ah battery instead of a 13.5Ah one. This results is 13 extra miles of ride time.
Looks like evey other boring scooter. Not good enough