LM3914 vs LM3915 vs LM3916 - What are the differences?

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  • Опубликовано: 28 ноя 2024

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  • @manoharmanu1460
    @manoharmanu1460 3 года назад +6

    Your videos are bliss for electronics hobbyist's like me . Such nice work with pcb designing and execution.

    • @Stefano91ste
      @Stefano91ste  3 года назад +1

      Thanks so much! I'm happy when my work is appreciated :)

    • @kabeer9744
      @kabeer9744 3 года назад

      Electronic hobbyist' like you 😀

  • @rodrigolindemberga
    @rodrigolindemberga Год назад +1

    Em resumo:
    Lm3914 e lm3916 acionam os led de forma linear, porém o 3916 é ultra rapido quando comparado ao lm3914.
    O lm3915 é logarítmico acionam os led de forma multiplicativa. Sendo assim os LM 3914 e 16 são mais para medidores de tensão ao passo que o lm3915 é mais voltado para sinais de áudio ou qualquer outro que seja próximo ao espectro senoidal.

    • @rbaleiro
      @rbaleiro Год назад

      nao, o lm3916 tbm eh escala log.

    • @betatester8800
      @betatester8800 10 месяцев назад

      i see LM3916 is china fake !

  • @electronic7979
    @electronic7979 5 лет назад +8

    Excellent project 👍

  • @soerensauber
    @soerensauber 7 месяцев назад

    Hey @Stefano91ste , vertreibst Du auch die Leiterplatte? Wegen einer benötigen wollte ich keinen Auftrag bei JLCPCB auslösen.

  • @carriersignal
    @carriersignal Год назад +1

    Hi, curious to know if this chip (LM3916) offers or needs any type of calibration / adjustment, or is it already leveled and scaled correctly for reading the input of a signal properly? Thanks.

    • @alaricsnellpym
      @alaricsnellpym Год назад

      They have input pins for low and high voltage - and will measure the signal voltage's position between those two extremes. Often you tie the low voltage input to ground and the high voltage input to a suitable reference. The chip has an internal reference of something like 1.25V (I can't remember exactly) which can be used to measure a line level audio signal (should be max 1V peak to peak) so the yellow LED comes on when it hits 1V and the red ones come on if it goes over, or something like that!

  • @keithking1985
    @keithking1985 4 года назад +8

    interesting, the 3915 was more sensitive!!

    • @Stefano91ste
      @Stefano91ste  4 года назад +2

      that's right, and it's also the IC that I use most for my Vu-Meters!

    • @steinmix9448
      @steinmix9448 3 года назад

      But slow

  • @JoaquimAparecidoDaSilva-sq3wp
    @JoaquimAparecidoDaSilva-sq3wp 2 месяца назад

    Antigamente tinha um vu de som modulado que o vu ficava com o último led pra marcar o pico
    Eu coloquei 20 leds no 3914 nao queimou

  • @meetgaming7968
    @meetgaming7968 Месяц назад

    Can i don't connect dot/bar and should connect that two points with wire ? Please sir reply ❤❤

    • @Stefano91ste
      @Stefano91ste  Месяц назад

      Hi, sure you can. I put the pins just to give the possibility to change between DOT and BAR mode, but if you prefer to solder a wire and close the contact it doesn't change anything.

  • @theplaidgamer1653
    @theplaidgamer1653 5 лет назад +4

    Keep up the good work!!

  • @rogerioguerra4390
    @rogerioguerra4390 3 года назад +4

    Melhor vídeo de comparação entre os 3 CI. Parabéns!

    • @Stefano91ste
      @Stefano91ste  3 года назад

      Thank you! Gracias!

    • @betatester8800
      @betatester8800 10 месяцев назад

      LM3916 and LM3914 are the same! LM3916 is fake! I fell for it too!

  • @kbeceamibala
    @kbeceamibala 5 лет назад +2

    I love your videos man, you are one of the few yt that makes vumeter videos(sorry for my bad english), btw can you make a simple led spectrum analyzer?9with the lm3915?

    • @Stefano91ste
      @Stefano91ste  5 лет назад +4

      Hi, thank you :)
      It is a project I would like to realize, in the future it will come!

  • @danielrufino457
    @danielrufino457 3 года назад +3

    ML 3915 is best !

  • @mavic6155
    @mavic6155 3 года назад

    I have an Aphex 320A leveler which uses both LM3914 and LM3915. It has a problem now, which lead me to the LM3914 which is broken. The socket of this IC is melted and also the socket of the LM3915 (but this one still works... for now). Any idea what could cause these IC's to heat up so much? They might be 25 years old in the mean time, but I don't know if I should just replace them, or if I must dig a bit deeper. All IC's get 15V, according to a digital volt meter.

    • @Stefano91ste
      @Stefano91ste  3 года назад

      Hi, there could be a short circuit in some track connected to the PINs or an abnormal current absorption from the LED side.. have you checked?

    • @mavic6155
      @mavic6155 3 года назад

      @@Stefano91ste Not yet, but I am going to. Thanks for replying.

  • @meetgaming7968
    @meetgaming7968 Месяц назад

    Please sir reply ❤❤ what is the full rate of all components.example 220 micro Faraday capasitor what is voltage

    • @Stefano91ste
      @Stefano91ste  Месяц назад

      Hi, it is important that the voltage of the electrolytic capacitors is higher than the power supply voltage of the circuit, in this case electrolytic capacitors of 25v or above is fine.

  • @zeljkoadzic1692
    @zeljkoadzic1692 3 года назад

    SIR, So who are you going to get your LM3915 from, and what are you going to do if it turns out to actually be a remarked LM3914?

    • @Stefano91ste
      @Stefano91ste  3 года назад

      Hi, I generally buy LM3915s at electronics fairs.. but now thanks to the virus they are all suspended.. :(
      Fortunately I have always used DIP for my projects, so I have about 60 LM3915s at home that I can reuse without having to unsolder them.

  • @gurwindersingh-te5bl
    @gurwindersingh-te5bl 7 месяцев назад

    How to purchase this vu pc board complete kit

  • @dyonight
    @dyonight 2 года назад +1

    great! is it hard to implement a peak hold function as well? (when the signal hits the red leds) Thanks!

    • @Enigma758
      @Enigma758 Год назад +1

      The chip is not designed for that. It is either in "bar mode" as shown in the video, or "dot mode" which displays only one LED at any given moment to show the level. If you want peak/hold, you will probably need to use a microcontroller with a specialized program.

    • @dyonight
      @dyonight Год назад +1

      @@Enigma758 ok thanks!

  • @borsi99
    @borsi99 5 лет назад +1

    Hello ‚Stefano the Best‘❗️👍🏼 Which one of your VU Meters would you prefer as a finished give-away to a friend who is a semi-pro DJ and great music freak? Thanks! Boris🇨🇭

    • @Stefano91ste
      @Stefano91ste  5 лет назад

      Hi Boris, Thanks!
      I'd be on this with LM3916 and stereo configuration :)
      - ruclips.net/video/l8oUQpGAOCw/видео.html

    • @borsi99
      @borsi99 5 лет назад

      Electronics Projects - Stefano91ste
      Yes! This one is also my favourite✌🏼

  • @RODALCO2007
    @RODALCO2007 5 лет назад +1

    Very nice circuit board. great I C comparison.

  • @bradricketts6091
    @bradricketts6091 2 года назад

    question...which IC would be better for measuring the level of the music signal on a mixer board, the preamp signal available on the output of each music channel

    • @Enigma758
      @Enigma758 Год назад

      Sounds like a serious application so probably the LM3916 would be best for that.

  • @Taz6161
    @Taz6161 Месяц назад

    Elinize sağlık güzel bir çalışma, en kısa sürede bu devre uygulamasını mutlaka deneyeceğim. Türkiyeden selamlar.. 👍👏🤝

  • @dj_sorra8605
    @dj_sorra8605 Год назад

    Which one works best on the signal?

    • @Stefano91ste
      @Stefano91ste  Год назад +1

      LM3916 for a more precise Vu-Meter

  • @TheSTONEones
    @TheSTONEones 3 года назад

    Hi I'm trying to build a vu meter for a sound to light project. I've got lm3914s and 15s. 15s are better for audio vu meters. I've got all the data sheets. What I'm struggling with is what circuitry is needed to input an audio signal from a phone or as in my project a sensitive Mic amplifier some with an op amp. My hi gain op amp works ok but my LM chips are not responding. I've wired them correctly, triple checked lol.
    I understand the voltage divider/comparitor function. The chip will display a signal strength in the range set across pins 4 and 6. That voltage can be the internal reference voltage, manipulated if necessary or the divider can be supplied externally but not usually in most applications.
    How do I give the correct signal voltage/strength coming from the audio sources mentioned above is my main concern.
    Thank you for any advice you can give.

    • @Stefano91ste
      @Stefano91ste  3 года назад +1

      Hi, I use a LM386 as a preamp for the LM391X ICs .. it works very well;)
      Like in this video: ruclips.net/video/Ex3waFdQrHY/видео.html

    • @TheSTONEones
      @TheSTONEones 3 года назад

      @@Stefano91ste excellent, thank you or your help

  • @juliobernal2463
    @juliobernal2463 6 месяцев назад

    How operate on Dot mode?

  • @Electronoobb
    @Electronoobb 25 дней назад

    Best vumeter youtuber!

  • @meetgaming7968
    @meetgaming7968 Месяц назад

    And can I add more 3 line of led like current line without adding another components please reply sir

    • @Stefano91ste
      @Stefano91ste  Месяц назад

      If I understand the question correctly: no, each LED column needs its own circuit to work.

    • @meetgaming7968
      @meetgaming7968 Месяц назад

      @@Stefano91ste I mean can I make 2×10 led

    • @meetgaming7968
      @meetgaming7968 Месяц назад

      In this circuit

    • @meetgaming7968
      @meetgaming7968 Месяц назад

      2colums

  • @kitlinghou6848
    @kitlinghou6848 2 года назад

    Very nice explanation with demo. Could i use WS2812B LED (5050) with 9v input ? please advise

    • @Enigma758
      @Enigma758 Год назад +1

      No, you need a microcontroller to drive those, they require a serial communication line.

  • @mindembulan1735
    @mindembulan1735 18 дней назад

    can it use by 12vdc? or must be 9v?

  • @Hello-m9m
    @Hello-m9m 2 года назад

    I want to make a vu meter using LM3915 ic. Can I use this for 500 watt amplifier?
    Please reply as soon as possible 🙏🙏

  • @MultiANDRE1963
    @MultiANDRE1963 4 года назад

    I would like to have a PCB to mount a VU meter usin2 LM3915, do You sel it or could indicate where I can buy it.. Tks

    • @Stefano91ste
      @Stefano91ste  4 года назад

      Hi, look at this vu meter ( ruclips.net/video/RHcf5MlmIC0/видео.html ) in the video description you can download the PCB to order on JLCPCB. in the video there are all the instructions :)

  • @danialfikri8244
    @danialfikri8244 5 лет назад

    can i use audio jack as an input

  • @publikjuli
    @publikjuli 3 месяца назад

    NIce! You should put scale next to the leds columns!

    • @Stefano91ste
      @Stefano91ste  3 месяца назад +1

      Hi, I made this with the LED dB scale
      Here: ruclips.net/video/l8oUQpGAOCw/видео.htmlsi=GFizh_XPFhuDYmcN

  • @agunghartono123
    @agunghartono123 Год назад

    Hi, i want make scream level for challenge, which one is better for use?

    • @Stefano91ste
      @Stefano91ste  Год назад

      Hi, for this I would recommend the LM3916 as it has a preset dB scale

    • @agunghartono123
      @agunghartono123 Год назад

      Ok, thanx a lot bro,,😁

  • @rodrigonishikiori9747
    @rodrigonishikiori9747 3 года назад

    Great comparisson, thanks for sharing.

    • @Stefano91ste
      @Stefano91ste  3 года назад

      Thanks for appreciating my work on RUclips :)

  • @itsaksharmate
    @itsaksharmate 4 года назад

    So, which ic should be best.

    • @Stefano91ste
      @Stefano91ste  4 года назад +1

      It depends on the use you want to make of it, for a simple Vu-Meter for example the best is LM3915

  • @mputraaditya9077
    @mputraaditya9077 3 года назад

    Signal input vu meter to speaker or preamp?

    • @Stefano91ste
      @Stefano91ste  3 года назад

      Both speaker and pre-amplifier are good

  • @osvaldodestro6894
    @osvaldodestro6894 4 года назад

    Ola!!! amigo...gostaria de fazer um medidor de tensão de um carregador de baterias com o LM 3915 pode me indicar um

    • @Stefano91ste
      @Stefano91ste  4 года назад

      Hi, try to watch this video ( ruclips.net/video/b0MZ3Vwh1C0/видео.html ) but I suggest you to use an LM3914 for what you want to do

  • @mr.gamemaster2232
    @mr.gamemaster2232 2 месяца назад

    Thank for this information

  • @kalyangautam7345
    @kalyangautam7345 3 года назад

    Bro I wanna make led fuel indicator using lm3915ic.We have to give Negative current for input.if tank become full it send 0-20 ohams unit if tank become empty it sends 220 ohams units.will you tell me circuit which works between 0-220 ohams negative current.

    • @Stefano91ste
      @Stefano91ste  3 года назад +1

      Hi, the LM3914/15/16 perceive a change in voltage, not in resistance, and not in negative current.

    • @kalyangautam7345
      @kalyangautam7345 3 года назад

      @@Stefano91ste will you suggest me which component can i use for these type of circuit.

  • @agustinwatanabe6449
    @agustinwatanabe6449 5 лет назад

    ¿Me podrías pasar el circuito en la protoboard?
    ¿Could you pass me the circuit on the protoboard/Breadboard?

    • @Stefano91ste
      @Stefano91ste  5 лет назад

      Hi, the circuit can be seen in the video at 0:35 - the PCB file can be downloaded.. link in description:)

  • @indianaiscience3670
    @indianaiscience3670 4 года назад +2

    sir make a audio bands spectrum analyzer with lm3915 /// love from great India

    • @Stefano91ste
      @Stefano91ste  4 года назад +1

      it is a project that I will surely make, greetings from Italy!

  • @HarpreetSingh-yo9ir
    @HarpreetSingh-yo9ir 5 лет назад +2

    Hi Sir. This is very urgent. I was recently working on rpm meter usinf lm2917 ans 3914 from 4 months.i have cascaded 6 lm3914 .Today i completed my circuit but led arent function properly. Can you send me the circuit diagram or how to cascade them. I watched your rpm meter video but there i did not understand how you cascaded lm3914. I spent lot of efforts on it. COULD YOU PLEASE TELL ME HOW TO CASCADE 6 LM3914. PLEASE😞😞😞

    • @Stefano91ste
      @Stefano91ste  5 лет назад +2

      Hi, in this project i cascade 5x LM3415 ruclips.net/video/Ox5TAZAnTrY/видео.html but the diagram is the same for LM3914.. you can use this diagram for add one LM3914.. However to connect the LM391X in series it is necessary to connect pin 6 of the first with pin 4 of the second, pin 6 of the second with pin 4 of the third, pin 6 of the third with pin 4 of the fourth.. etc.
      PS: in my rpm meter video you can see the circuit diagram, and also in this video with the 5x LM3915 you find the diagram towards the end of the video

  • @SachinB.A.
    @SachinB.A. 3 года назад

    From Where can I purchase readymade circuit of LM3915

    • @Stefano91ste
      @Stefano91ste  3 года назад

      Hi, on Banggood you can find dedicated KIT like these:
      - www.banggood.com/custlink/KmDYSo40qy
      - www.banggood.com/custlink/mGGYiOg6qi

  • @AgentOffice
    @AgentOffice 3 года назад

    Can I buy this kit

    • @Stefano91ste
      @Stefano91ste  3 года назад +1

      Is not a KIT, you can buy the PCB only on jlcpcb.com

  • @status.kingebu5397
    @status.kingebu5397 4 года назад

    Lm3915 ic board price koto

  • @1954charlie
    @1954charlie Год назад

    I respect you and your work. If I praise what he does he will thank you and answer. I asked twice (for a microphone) how much the counterallas should be 2.2k (or 2.7k). I sit here looking at his pages daily. No answer, but I'm just asking for a number. You also understand what you're doing and I'm working against depression. It takes a little bit of success sometimes. My respect.

  • @karlheisenberg6350
    @karlheisenberg6350 2 года назад +1

    O 3915 parece ser o mais preciso.

  • @GRXBDIT
    @GRXBDIT 3 года назад

    You deserve a like

  • @mohammadamin4861
    @mohammadamin4861 5 лет назад

    LM3915 is the best IC
    I use this one for my VU projects

    • @Stefano91ste
      @Stefano91ste  5 лет назад

      Hi, me too, it's one of my favorite ICs :)

  • @thomasdunaway2573
    @thomasdunaway2573 3 года назад +1

    nice soldering

  • @cosmepereda2491
    @cosmepereda2491 4 года назад +2

    Excelente proyecto led's , gracias amigo, ya hice mi vumetro led.me quedó muy bien.gracias por compartir..

  • @TheAashishvideo
    @TheAashishvideo 4 года назад

    good work my friend

  • @alikhalili738
    @alikhalili738 2 года назад

    perfect.thank you

  • @sajidmahmood4646
    @sajidmahmood4646 2 года назад

    Yes Vu meter super Old is gold

  • @ovalwingnut
    @ovalwingnut Год назад

    Thank you. 3915 it is!

  • @FratCan
    @FratCan 9 месяцев назад +1

    LM3915 is batter than others.

  • @dvieira73
    @dvieira73 2 года назад

    Top. Gostei do 3914👍

  • @bambangtetuko2031
    @bambangtetuko2031 4 года назад +1

    work to 5v dc???

    • @Stefano91ste
      @Stefano91ste  4 года назад +1

      Yes, but the luminous intensity of the LED will be lower

    • @bambangtetuko2031
      @bambangtetuko2031 4 года назад +2

      okay... thank you .. . input vu meter from input audio(jack /mp3 player) or out amplifier?

    • @Stefano91ste
      @Stefano91ste  4 года назад +1

      Amplifier output

    • @bambangtetuko2031
      @bambangtetuko2031 4 года назад +1

      thank you :)

  • @kristalmisticok4952
    @kristalmisticok4952 Год назад

    ...y la función punto??

    • @Stefano91ste
      @Stefano91ste  Месяц назад

      It obtained by not powering the pin 9 of the integrated circuits, but for this demo it was not necessary

  • @TechnologyTubes
    @TechnologyTubes 5 лет назад

    Best sir this is also mh job.

  • @FareedClarity
    @FareedClarity 4 года назад

    Wha, must try

  • @juliocesaralonsosanchez6993
    @juliocesaralonsosanchez6993 5 лет назад

    Magnifico video amigo.
    Podrias enseñar como hacer una pequeña camara de eco para un aparato de radio frecuencia " cb " saludos desde monterrey nl. Mexico

    • @Stefano91ste
      @Stefano91ste  5 лет назад +1

      - Hola, nunca he hecho nada en un CB, pero suena interesante..
      - I've never done anything on a CB, but it sounds interesting

  • @320roscoe
    @320roscoe 5 лет назад

    Make stream deck with LCD key (macro pad)

  • @xiomarabravo1023
    @xiomarabravo1023 5 лет назад

    excelente . Felicitaciones

  • @HOLLYWOODlosANGELES
    @HOLLYWOODlosANGELES 4 года назад

    *Bon test !*

  • @eddyjohn3022
    @eddyjohn3022 4 года назад

    i want to have 16led in one connection to make like this ruclips.net/video/Jyrpx9rEGMI/видео.html. what should be changed? please help

  • @beeshorts2743
    @beeshorts2743 3 года назад +1

    3914 and 3916 work allmost same

    • @Stefano91ste
      @Stefano91ste  3 года назад +1

      Apparently yes, but actually they have been designed for different purposes.. LM3914 for applications like Volt-Meter, Thermometer etc and- LM3916 for audio application.
      - LM3914 is linear.
      - LM3916 is logarithmic (with a defined dB range)

  • @gerardoaurilio3457
    @gerardoaurilio3457 5 лет назад

    Bella Stefano, ho già ordinato i PCB. Per quello che cerco io mi sembra più indicato il 3914, anche se il 3916 non mi dispiace.

    • @Stefano91ste
      @Stefano91ste  5 лет назад

      Ciao! Grande😎
      Il 3914 l’ho usato tanto tempo fa per un progettino di un contagiri a led

  • @techinvoke9048
    @techinvoke9048 3 года назад

    I will go with 3915

  • @AlfaleoTech
    @AlfaleoTech 11 месяцев назад +1

    3916 best

  • @ohlala9136
    @ohlala9136 5 лет назад

    Muito bom parabéns!

  • @Riddhi42069
    @Riddhi42069 Месяц назад

    3916 seems good..

  • @mohammadalfauomey3443
    @mohammadalfauomey3443 5 лет назад

    Nice

  • @Account-c7i
    @Account-c7i Месяц назад

    Supertop😀

  • @mehdikho
    @mehdikho 5 лет назад

    Music name 😃😃😃

    • @Stefano91ste
      @Stefano91ste  5 лет назад

      Hi, are two songs without copyright, I wrote their titles in video description :)

  • @marcoslazarodesouzalazaro5788
    @marcoslazarodesouzalazaro5788 4 года назад

    fico show👏👏👏

  • @betatester8800
    @betatester8800 10 месяцев назад

    Я вижу LM3916 это перетертая LM3914?!

    • @Stefano91ste
      @Stefano91ste  10 месяцев назад

      Hi, they're like that from the factory

    • @betatester8800
      @betatester8800 10 месяцев назад

      @@Stefano91ste Yes, the Chinese supply the LM3914 chip in LM3916. I suffered for a long time until I realized what the problem was. I pulled the real LM3916 out of the tape recorder and then I saw the difference.

      I also make indicators.

    • @betatester8800
      @betatester8800 10 месяцев назад

      @@Stefano91ste If you compare, your LM3914 and LM3916 look the same. This shouldn't happen. They have a big difference between the comparator divisors.

  • @tikudjapoweramp9864
    @tikudjapoweramp9864 4 года назад

    Pdf

    • @Stefano91ste
      @Stefano91ste  4 года назад

      Hi, you can see the circuit in the video and download gerber files from video description.

  • @pierch99
    @pierch99 9 месяцев назад

    travail pro...

  • @juliobernal2463
    @juliobernal2463 2 года назад +1

    I don’t see a remarkable difference!!

  • @champalalkandara7639
    @champalalkandara7639 2 года назад

    Sur mujhe vu mitor ki pcb chahiye apka wat nomber de do

  • @跟人民军是不想
    @跟人民军是不想 4 года назад

    هاذا هو ic LM3915 😂

  • @hadibq
    @hadibq 2 года назад

    👍👍👍👍

  • @serbeer1240
    @serbeer1240 4 года назад

    Уродская Схема там есть возможность выбора DOT или Line / //

  • @Virtualik
    @Virtualik 2 года назад

    не додумался перемычку на музыке снять. остолоп

  • @sigelander
    @sigelander 4 года назад

    solo es el armado de un kid,,, nadie hizo nada..xd

    • @williamguillen4113
      @williamguillen4113 4 года назад +1

      Está explicando la diferencia que hay entre los tres ICs. Se dice Kit, no Kid. Y tampoco es un Kit.

  • @googolmorons620
    @googolmorons620 3 года назад

    thanks for info, but... begging for subsliking suxx, videostream-integrated ads - ultra-megadrive-power-suxx
    so, enjoy your minus)))

    • @Stefano91ste
      @Stefano91ste  3 года назад

      What???

    • @googolmorons620
      @googolmorons620 3 года назад

      @@Stefano91ste in case you are really interested:
      1. there are pretty effective tools eradicating advertisement out of user's web traffic. the kind of ad they cannot wipe out yet is the ad integrated directly into video stream.
      i feel almost excellent about web ads using one of these tools - ads just don't exist for me. none of them. except...
      well... i have to spend time, take some actions to fastforward the ad, etc. and i am not payed for overbullshitting my mind with the ad perception.
      so i mark the video stream for other people as suxy because it is infected by the advertisement. nothing personal ;)
      2. allmost every moron publishing self-made video here is spending viewer's time and attention with "subscribe my channel and click the 'like' button. pleeeeeeeeease"-begging. to be short, "subslike-me-please" or subslike-begging.
      there are no tools wiping out such begging out of the video stream developed yet. so user is not being paid for mind overbullshitting and have to spend time, fast forward, click "close", etc.
      again, i mark the video stream for other people as suxy because it is infected by subslike-begging. and again, nothing personal here.
      good luck and lot of thanks. the info you provided helped me to figure out which one - LM3915 or LM3916 - fits my needs best ;)

  • @Злойенот-я1д
    @Злойенот-я1д Год назад

    I did not see the difference between 3914 and 3916

    • @Stefano91ste
      @Stefano91ste  Год назад

      Hi, visually not noticeable, but LM3914 is linear, while 3916 is logarithmic