Late June Rankings Pod w/ Sackreligious, Daniel Racz, and Kyle Dvorchak
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- Опубликовано: 2 июл 2024
- Pat, Kyle, Daniel, and Sack discuss the latest updates to the LegUp best ball rankings and how they're attacking drafts. They discuss 3QB builds, their favorite early stacks, combining different strategies, and more.
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00:00 - Intro
02:45 - The Puppy 2 seemed to change WR prices again, how are we handling that in rankings?
06:52 - Building teams centered around late round QBs in this portion of drafting season
10:35 - How many roster spots can we dedicate to one single NFL team?
14:33 - Approaching stacking with pocket passers vs QBs that run
18:10 - Handling the changing prices of Elite QBs and Elite TEs with WRs rising in price
23:14 - Taking a chance drafting Patrick Mahomes with no other Chiefs on your team
30:15 - Taking a leap of faith in a “time boxed” contest
33:46 - Has anything changed in the early round rankings?
37:06 - How much will early round RBs move up later in draft season?
42:03 - Can Jonathan Taylor and Derrick Henry have legendary seasons?
48:25 - Talking Rashee Rice, Chris Godwin, Calvin Ridley, and other 6th round WRs
56:40 - How many WRs are we targeting through the first 7 rounds?
58:33 - Is the key to winning best ball tournaments this year starting WR in the first three rounds?
1:02:20 - Is there a new definition of hyper fragile in 2024 drafts?
1:11:04 - What is coming up for Legendary Upside?
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Sack unironically saying red blooded American just made my day. 🇺🇸
Thank you, gentlemen. 🙏🏻
Great stream fellas👍🏿👍🏿
Fun discussion. For some reason I feel more comfortable drafting WRs later this year.
Not ashamed to admit i have a pretty big ridley and hopkins position. I'm a believer in this TEN offense, especially as it relates to really slinging this ball downfield, and I love me some Ridley 4th quarter junk yardage when playing from behind. I also am massively overweight on bottom tier QBs, TEN included.
As a Chiefs homer, hearing how Sackreligious said "Pacheco" causes me great pain.
With that said, this was a fantastic show.
I’m not worried about loosing out at the flex if I go qb te rounds 4/5 because in my opinion there isn’t much difference in the Amari Pickens types compared to even the d hop or C. Samuel types as your fourth wr .
Derrick Henry is the litmus test for "knowing ball". He's going to crush at round 3 price. Hero RB god this yr
Sounds good
This, but the exact opposite
@@T-ob5ncwhat does your comment mean?
Pairing him with Breece/Bijan could be the true hammer if you can pull off a solid WR room despite the early capital used on RB
Kyle... Mini-schnauzers are great dogs. :)
Fellas what was Hayden’s research on 4 RB teams in the finals? Was really low wasn’t it?
Big Dog > JT at price
Don't forget in JTs big year he lapped the field in green zone touches. I think by like 40 or so.
For 6 players same team, Colts are a great example. Richardson JT Pittman Mitchell Downs Woods
Its not betting to recapture previous form for henry. Youre betting lamar puts him back to elite efficiency
I don’t think I’ve ever hated an adp as much as Ladd McConkey in the 6th
He is a shiny Curtis Samuel
LFG!! 🔥🔥🔥
i like most of your guys stuff but i am totally the opposite on ridley hopkins i think ridley should be 3rd rd pick
I need to stop drafting zeke elliot in every goddamn draft
Maybe I'm missing something but I don't understand how drafting Henry in high stakes and not drafting him in low stakes changes anything. Your EV across all contests is still the same function of $$ associated with Henry and Henry's ROO.
the nuance is the advance and payout structure. in high stakes if a player hits it's significantly more likely that one team w/ that player will actually advance to the final and then make noise in the final against fewer opponents w/ that player (and in total). in something like bbm5, even great teams with a star player will get bounced before the finals. so it makes sense to take more shots on goal in that structure. and i don't want to devote a devent % of my portfolio in a top heavy structure on a bet i don't really believe in.
@@legendaryupside In high stakes it's significantly more likely that any team will advance to the final and make noise. The buy-in and payout reflect that. It's a smaller tournament.
In BBM you're much more likely to get bounced before the finals, but that's reflected by your buy-in and the payout. If Henry crushes, you're going to want him in BBM even though you have a lower chance to win BBM in general.
I know you probably won't listen to a random youtube comment, but ask some mathematically inclined folks in the industry about this. I'm pretty sure they'll agree with me.
@@yessum44
i *don't* think henry will crush. i'm betting against him. that's why i'm not taking him in bbm and leaning into my highest confidence stands in that tournament.
if i'm taking henry it's either at a discount or as a hedge in higher stakes stuff where a single hedge entry has a chance to actually be meaningful. in bbm i'd rather get another shot on goal w/ a guy who i actually think will crush.
inherent in this approach is that i stand to win less overall if henry is the guy. my realistic henry-related upside will be a small field payout. but that's consistent w/ my position that he isn't the guy.
@@legendaryupside How does this change your overall EV across all tournaments, though? I don't think it does.
@@yessum44 there's the EV in a tournament and the EV in a portfolio.
I think taking Henry in round 3 lowers my EV, generally. bc i don't think he's a very good pick.
But... if taking Henry I want to do so in a spot where an unlikely event (in my mind) occurring has the best chance of making an impact on my portfolio. this is the case in a smaller field tournament where i need less things to go right in addition to henry hitting. i don't have to go against a ton of other henry teams, i don't need as much to go right to get to the final.
mixing in henry in that way has a more positive impact on the EV of my portfolio than the same $ amount in bbm, bc those bbm shares represent a high % of my upside this year. spending them on a player who i think is a bad bet meaningfully reduces my upside, lowering EV.
49:50 Aging offensive line? What is this dude talking about? Ben Bredeson is the oldest projected starter and he's 26 years old.
CEH love after Courtland Sutton slander…what are we doing here?
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Why would the existence of Kelce + Mahomes + Worthy + Rashee teams stop you from going for a single or double stack Mahomes in bbm? To me, it seems like the major edge of a big stack like that would be in the cumulative week 1-14 where you wont be facing those teams. In the playoffs it seems much more random where a Pickens + Mahomes/Worthy/Rice or a Ladd + Kelce/Mahomes/Rice or a Kelce/Mahomes/Worthy + Courtland Sutton could actually be superior to the large stack. Just curious the reasoning on avoiding it in case I'm missing something. Thanks!
Just wait until you get so old that the coaches start getting younger than you
How is Kelce falling into the 5th on Underdog?! As a DraftKings loyalist, I just don't understand that. I'm jealous.
The average Underdog drafter seems generally confused.
I would take that with a grain of salt. His ADP is 39.
Kyle giving off Hot Girl Summer energy