From my understanding, Welch College is a Denominational run Bible college. It is a Free Will Baptist College and it seems to imply that Reformed Arminianism is what the Denomination holds. So to the point of a denomination that is Reformed Arminian, well the FWB seemed to be one.
Free Will Baptists are Reformed Arminian. We would hold that label despite the disagreement on this podcast that seems to merely call us Classical. Classical/Reformed Arminianism as a label was developed out of Robert Picirilli and Leroy Forlines.
@@user-kl4ch2op2n I see Classical as the Soteriology of James Arminius and the Remonstrances. While also seeing that Reformed theology encompasses more than just Soteriology, and goes into the belief of paedobaptism, Covenant theology, and the real presence of Christ in the Supper. None of this is intended to be disrecptpful, as I am grateful for my Classical Arminians brothers.
Great episode. The guest was very well read and very cool (until he said that he was a credobaptist). He would be great to have back on. One minor thing, it is “concupiscence” that Lutherans believe in, not “concupitence.”
I think that, technically speaking, the only reformed Arminians would be dutch reformed with arminian soteriology... basically heartily affirming the forms of unity before Dort.
I'm interested if you have any resources either of y'all would recommend on looking at the history of Arminian theology in the Anglican tradition? It's an area I haven't had a chance to really dig into yet.
There is The Crisis of Calvinism in Revolutionary England, 1640-1660: Arminian Theologies of Predestination and Grace by Andrew Ollerton. There is Debating Perseverance: The Augustinian Heritage in Post-Reformation England by Jay T Collier. An important one is Bisschop's Bench: Contours of Arminian Conformity in the Church of England, C.1674-1742 by Samuel D Fornecker. Theres also Anti-Calvinists: The Rise of English Arminianism, C. 1590-1640 by Nicholas Tyacke. A good companion to this is Anti-Arminians: The Anglican Reformed Tradition from Charles II to George I by Stephen Hampton. There are some good chapters in After Arminius by Keith Stanglin and Thomas McCall. This one covers the early influences due to the Dutch, Britain and the Bestandstwisten: The Causes, Course and Consequences of British Involvement in the Dutch Religious and Political Disputes of the Early Seventeenth Century by Eric Platt. I can't endorse all the things stated by these authors (as some of them are Calvinist and don't always define "Arminian" correctly) but these are still good historical sources. There aren’t a ton on this subject, but there are far more dissertations and academic articles on this topic than there are books on it.
I have some resources, but many of them are difficult to come by. There is The Crisis of Calvinism in Revolutionary England, 1640-1660: Arminian Theologies of Predestination and Grace by Andrew Ollerton. Then theres Debating Perseverance: The Augustinian Heritage in Post-Reformation England by Jay T Collier. Theres also Bisschop's Bench: Contours of Arminian Conformity in the Church of England, C.1674-1742 by Samuel D Fornecker. I’d also suggest Anti-Calvinists: The Rise of English Arminianism, C. 1590-1640 by Nicholas Tyacke. Anti-Arminians: The Anglican Reformed Tradition from Charles II to George I by Stephen Hampton is another good one. After Arminius by Keith Stanglin and Thomas McCall has a few good chapters on this topic. Britain and the Bestandstwisten: The Causes, Course and Consequences of British Involvement in the Dutch Religious and Political Disputes of the Early Seventeenth Century by Eric Platt covers the early influence and engagement with the Duch. I can't endorse all the things stated by these authors (as some of them are Calvinist and don't always define "Arminian" correctly) but these are still good historical sources.There are far more dissertations and academic articles on this topic than there are books on it.
There are Anglicans that are arminians and not anglo-Catholics. Believing in 7 sacraments does not mean Anglo Catholic because 2 are considered Dominical and 5 are ecclesiastical. The five are of Less importance.
I’m noticing that Christian are using “oh Lord” or “Lordy” as some expression of disappointment, disgust, disappointment, anger, surprise, etc. not at all with reverence and/directly to God or talking about him to another. What’s up with this ?
I’d really love to see a faculty member from Welch come on to discuss Reformed Arminianism and discuss Molinism in regards to Arminius
This is going to be a good one
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I’m a Wesleyan, but it has an s sound and not a z sound.
So Wesleyan not Wezleyan 😜
From my understanding, Welch College is a Denominational run Bible college. It is a Free Will Baptist College and it seems to imply that Reformed Arminianism is what the Denomination holds. So to the point of a denomination that is Reformed Arminian, well the FWB seemed to be one.
It would be epic if they called themselves that (despite being baptist). They should also be paedobaptist.
@@methodministries 😂 well I’m sure they would be paedo if was the correct view of baptism 🫣
Free Will Baptists are Reformed Arminian.
Free Will Baptists are Reformed Arminian. We would hold that label despite the disagreement on this podcast that seems to merely call us Classical. Classical/Reformed Arminianism as a label was developed out of Robert Picirilli and Leroy Forlines.
@@user-kl4ch2op2n I see Classical as the Soteriology of James Arminius and the Remonstrances. While also seeing that Reformed theology encompasses more than just Soteriology, and goes into the belief of paedobaptism, Covenant theology, and the real presence of Christ in the Supper. None of this is intended to be disrecptpful, as I am grateful for my Classical Arminians brothers.
Great episode. The guest was very well read and very cool (until he said that he was a credobaptist). He would be great to have back on.
One minor thing, it is “concupiscence” that Lutherans believe in, not “concupitence.”
Yes, he is very well versed and a cool guy for sure!
I think that, technically speaking, the only reformed Arminians would be dutch reformed with arminian soteriology... basically heartily affirming the forms of unity before Dort.
I'm interested if you have any resources either of y'all would recommend on looking at the history of Arminian theology in the Anglican tradition? It's an area I haven't had a chance to really dig into yet.
I can recommend Wesley's theology. Kenneth Collins has great works on that.
There is The Crisis of Calvinism in Revolutionary England, 1640-1660: Arminian Theologies of Predestination and Grace by Andrew Ollerton. There is Debating Perseverance: The Augustinian Heritage in Post-Reformation England by Jay T Collier. An important one is Bisschop's Bench: Contours of Arminian Conformity in the Church of England, C.1674-1742 by Samuel D Fornecker. Theres also Anti-Calvinists: The Rise of English Arminianism, C. 1590-1640 by Nicholas Tyacke. A good companion to this is Anti-Arminians: The Anglican Reformed Tradition from Charles II to George I by Stephen Hampton. There are some good chapters in After Arminius by Keith Stanglin and Thomas McCall. This one covers the early influences due to the Dutch, Britain and the Bestandstwisten: The Causes, Course and Consequences of British Involvement in the Dutch Religious and Political Disputes of the Early Seventeenth Century by Eric Platt. I can't endorse all the things stated by these authors (as some of them are Calvinist and don't always define "Arminian" correctly) but these are still good historical sources. There aren’t a ton on this subject, but there are far more dissertations and academic articles on this topic than there are books on it.
I have some resources, but many of them are difficult to come by. There is The Crisis of Calvinism in Revolutionary England, 1640-1660: Arminian Theologies of Predestination and Grace by Andrew Ollerton. Then theres Debating Perseverance: The Augustinian Heritage in Post-Reformation England by Jay T Collier. Theres also Bisschop's Bench: Contours of Arminian Conformity in the Church of England, C.1674-1742 by Samuel D Fornecker. I’d also suggest Anti-Calvinists: The Rise of English Arminianism, C. 1590-1640 by Nicholas Tyacke. Anti-Arminians: The Anglican Reformed Tradition from Charles II to George I by Stephen Hampton is another good one. After Arminius by Keith Stanglin and Thomas McCall has a few good chapters on this topic. Britain and the Bestandstwisten: The Causes, Course and Consequences of British Involvement in the Dutch Religious and Political Disputes of the Early Seventeenth Century by Eric Platt covers the early influence and engagement with the Duch. I can't endorse all the things stated by these authors (as some of them are Calvinist and don't always define "Arminian" correctly) but these are still good historical sources.There are far more dissertations and academic articles on this topic than there are books on it.
@@daltonb1993 I'll look into it all, thankyou!
Tell me more about these Arminian baptists who weren’t Zwinglians…
Basically the General Baptists. Most Baptists prior to the Second Great Awakening weren't Zwinglian.
If He is a Credo-Baptist He is not a Reformed Arminian.
Who do you think coined the term Reformed Arminian?
There are Anglicans that are arminians and not anglo-Catholics. Believing in 7 sacraments does not mean Anglo Catholic because 2 are considered Dominical and 5 are ecclesiastical. The five are of
Less importance.
I’m noticing that Christian are using “oh Lord” or “Lordy” as some expression of disappointment, disgust, disappointment, anger, surprise, etc. not at all with reverence and/directly to God or talking about him to another. What’s up with this ?