Edit: In pt.2 I'll obviously measure the speed of the supersonic shots to verify it's actually supersonic. Also I’m gonna get better darts (half length) and try a few interesting projectiles. Also I’m currently trying to organize something here in the US for part 2 so there’ll probably be another video in between, but I think it'll be worth it. Edit 2: shout out to Joerg (slingshot channel) and IDAT who made similar projects way back, I wasn't aware of them but they're great. Check them out too! Got injured in an accident? You could be click away from a claim worth millions. You can start your claim now with Morgan & Morgan at www.forthepeople.com/Mike without leaving your couch. Remember, it's free unless you win.
I recommend you add groves in the barrel, kinda like what real guns have, so that the bullets spin which adds stability and makes the shots straighter.
There's something really nice about a channel run by a guy who doesn't know what he's doing, admits he doesn't know what he's doing, show's us his failures, shows us the genuine shock when something works, and all around takes the audience for the entire ride through a project
There's a few things going on here that the lower pressure solved for you. First, the darts will explode and get shredded at higher pressures because they're smaller than the diameter of the barrel. When the valve dumps, that sudden blast of air pressure forces the foam to expand outward and squeeze to the inner diameter of the barrel, creating an air-tight seal. This is known as Obturation. If your pressure rises too high too fast, the projectile will expand too much and seal too tightly against the barrel, and that will shred it from the pressure differences, acceleration forces, and friction. This also causes the head to fly off, and the dart to leave in more than one piece, since the foam section is smashed against the walls of the barrel while the smaller dart head is free to separate. The lower pressures are more gentle, allowing the dart to fully obturate the barrel immediately and accelerate more uniformly, staying together and leaving the barrel in one piece with all of the pressure remaining behind it the whole length of travel for maximum efficiency. Second, the hissing sound you hear at higher pressures is called Valve Lock. This happens a lot when trying to tune Large-Bore hunting PCP airguns. Whether because the projectile is being shredded or leaving the barrel before pressure can equalize, the pressure in the barrel drops too fast, and the valve can't close until you reset the system. Or put your hand over the muzzle, probably. Rapid-dump valves like this need forward pressure from the barrel to help close the valve again against the static pressure in the bottle, and this usually happens before the projectile even leaves the barrel. The lower firing pressure means that the valve can equalize more quickly and close properly, conserving air and dumping its energy more efficiently. It's this efficiency that got you the greater velocities.
@@lisaridener7514 High pressure increase squishes the dart, making it get stuck in the barrel and rip apart. The valve also isnt made for this application so going from very high (firing) to very low (projectile leaves barrel) pressure makes the valve get stuck halfway. (hissing noise) Therefore lowering the pressure a bit stops the dart from getting squished and thus leaves in one piece, and stops the valve from getting stuck. Both help the projectile get more performance for less pressure.
@@MikeShake So based off what @SnowblindOtter said, you can pump the pressure back up to 600 PSI but you need the projectile to fit snuggly inside the barrel and to calibrate the barrel length to the PSI your using. If your going to do 3d printed projectiles, I'd recommend a Teflon seal around the projectile, Teflon tape would work for this, just create a groove around the projectile and wrap tape inside this groove, when air pressure increases behind the projectile, the Teflon will expand and create a very strong seal. What I used to do with potato cannons was a 3d printed wad that had a set of rubber O rings around it, the wad pushed the projectile (A potato) and almost doubled the FPS I was getting. If you want to truly push this creation to its limit, look up discarding sabots. They've been 3d printed before and used in HHO guns, the velocity you could achieve with those could actually be lethal with this gun. I'll see if I can find it but I remember seeing equations on an airgun forum specifically for figuring out what barrel length is required.
Honestly, Mike, I don't mind it taking long for videos to be edited because you're working on them yourself. The quality is always top notch, AND I am entertained while feeling more educated going out of one of your vids. Keep up your work!
I absolutely love the vibe of the video. Starting from knowing nothing and then explaining things in a way that is understandable to people of the same knowledge standard. Genuinely a joy to watch, and the gun is absolutely awesome!
21:58 Be sure to make those darts nose-heavy, because if you just print them out of solid plastic, the center of mass will be behind the aerodynamic center of pressure. (make the rear part of the dart hollow, add a little weight to the tip of the dart)
I think it would also be cool to see this shoot half darts from Worker or Dart Zone like what most Nerf modders use nowadays to shoot straighter and faster. The regular Nerf branded darts (and their knockoffs) are notoriously pretty bad.
This is honestly amazing. That is a super sick looking blaster, and the fact it uses air to shoot something faster than the speed of sound with a relatively simple setup is mind boggling to me. Congrats on pushing through the pain and worry -- that blaster is a trophy of engineering, and I'm definitely jealous you have it.
Great job! In fact you should increase the power of the spring that yanks open the valve. Yours seems a bit weak. I used rubber bands of course, and lots of them. The faster you open the valve, the harder the shot.
Joerg! So sorry I didn’t mention you in the video. I later on added you in the pinned comment when somebody mentioned your arrow launcher. It was insane! Do you think even if I’m using a QEV valve, the fast activation of the ball valve would have that much of an impact on the overall speed?
@@MikeShake The problem with QEV valves is that the max pressure is fairly low and the throughput is limited. My experience is that the highest power can be achieved by using super high pressure - I go up to about 300 bar - and then yank open a ball valve as fast as possible, You need to reduce the friction in the barrel so the dart stays intact. Maybe it would make sense to put some oil or grease on it. Also I recommend trying a sabot, maybe some soft tissue, behind the dart so the air hit is cushioned a bit.
@@SlingshotchannelDon't forget though adding a bit of oil to an airgun may not bode well using foam darts if diesling occurs. Sounds fun when it happens with air rifles but in this configuration it may cause unwanted results.
@@Slingshotchannel do you perceive any additional benefit to perhaps using a Rupture disc as the valve? It's already a muzzle-loading device, so replacing one each shot wouldn't meaningfully interrupt the loading->firing process. I feel like it could help with trying to push velocities as high as possible, as well as changing the gas.
@@Necro-the-Pyro it's like a high end .22 air rifle. which is pretty much exactly what this thing is. he just built a PCP air rifle. I have one that does 80 joules myself but that's on the higher end for .22 air rifles.
wow the content really changed. it went from mike trying to survive, to learing skills. to him making the sickest weapons ever that can shoot (almost) as fast as a gun. Good job!
.22 shorts are noticeably slower than the speed of sound. It is kinda funny, shot them at a distance of 50yrds and could actually see the bullet drop through the scope. It felt like throwing rocks. The interwebs suggests that a 22 short is somewhere in the neighborhood of about 900fps.
when you 3d print your own custom darts, tracer darts would look so interesting when shot at night. You could make a tracer dart by puting a small led and a very small button cell inside/at the back of the 3d printed dart. Also you could try printing the darts with glow in the dark filament and charging them with a black light before loading them in.
@@MikeShake You can actually get some "real" tracer foam darts from a company called worker. They're a shorter length, but that might actually help them go faster. There's also a company that makes a tracer faux suppressor type thing, depending on the OD of your barrel might mount on the end with no modification. It's called the T238, and also imparts spin on the darts to help stabilize them. Obviously not meant for these velocities though so might not be useful at all.
@@MikeShake Half-length darts with strong glue have been available for high FPS blasters in the Nerf hobby for a while now - might be worth checking out a few options to see if one meets your needs. Worker "Gen 3 bamboo" darts have strong glue and crimped rings to reduce friction in the barrel.
Very seldom I give my thumbs up, Awesome job sir, truly a remarkable piece through your tribulations of this masterpiece. Deserves praise for the sleek look, and formality of the design 🎉
As someone who has some 'Nerf for adult" blasters. Dart Zone and Worker half length darts are considered to be one of the best in the scene right now. Some of the high end blasters (Dart Zone Pro line, Gameface Trion and Worker blasters) are doing 200-300 FPS out of the box so those darts are made with these numbers in mind, where Nerf Elite darts are designed for 70-80 FPS. The community would be more than welcome to help you out!
I also wondered abut the darts- looked like the first ones he was using may have actually been new old stock streamline darts, which would certainly explain why they were failing. Not only were those designed with about half the pressure/velocity in mind as Elite darts, but they were probably significantly older as well, allowing more time for the material to begin to break down. But yeah, going with Workers or something else more suited to hobbyist grade blasters would probably give even better results.
It was funny watching this and going, "Yep, Spectre figured a lot of this out years ago..." although his goal was never supersonic and instead wanted repeatability and had a formfactor he was trying to fit, so the design parameters are a lot different. When going for supersonic, you definitely should go 'old school' with solid-core front-weighted 'Stefans', traditionally made out of foam backer rod.
@@HateHater2205 I know, what I mean is that his content is becoming a lesser more repetitive version of what it used to be, his humour also is becoming stale
Thanks so much Alex. I’ve been super impressed by your design and skills. I feel like your biggest limit was the kind of projectile you were using. It was probably stretching a lot inside the barrel increasing the friction. I’m confident that with a nerf dart you would’ve shot faster!
Bro I'm pausing the video immediately to say THANK YOU for the real time animation of the system! (9:00) That is so incredibly helpful for my understanding and visualization of what's going on. I really wish more video of this style would do it like that! Where reasonable of course. in matters of things that are to fast for human perception i would just like a nice unit of ten scaled speed.
Eres el único canal de RUclips que pone un buen doblaje español, muy natural. (Aunque no sé si Eres tu el que habla en realidad) Enhorabuena Mike por tu creatividad
Watching people from outside the performance "nerf" hobby rediscover/learn things that the community already figured out a while ago is always fascinating and wholesome.
@@shepardice3775 can you tell what kind of engineering is this? Is it mechanical? I am in computer science engineering and I think I can't do or understand this stuff even in my dreams.
¡Wow, qué increíble vídeo! Es fascinante ver a alguien llevar un proyecto como crear un blaster de dardos Nerf supersónico de la idea a la realidad. Desde el principio, me atrapó la claridad con la que se explicaban los conceptos técnicos y los procesos de construcción. El nivel de detalle y precisión en cada paso del proyecto es impresionante. Es evidente que Mike no solo tiene un profundo conocimiento de la ingeniería detrás de este tipo de artilugios, sino que también posee una gran habilidad para comunicar esos conocimientos de una manera accesible y entretenida 😊 Además, me encantó cómo Mike se tomó el tiempo para explicar los fundamentos científicos detrás del blaster de dardos Nerf supersónico. En lugar de simplemente mostrar el resultado final, hizo un excelente trabajo desglosando las leyes físicas y los principios de aerodinámica involucrados. Esto no solo hace que el vídeo sea informativo, sino que también inspira a los espectadores a aprender más sobre ciencia y tecnología. La inclusión de tomas en cámara lenta para capturar el funcionamiento del blaster en acción fue particularmente impresionante, permitiendo apreciar realmente la velocidad y precisión del dispositivo. En cuanto a la producción, los valores de cinematografía son excepcionales. La iluminación está bien controlada, y cada toma está enmarcada de manera que realza los detalles importantes del proyecto. El sonido es nítido y claro, lo que es crucial en vídeos tutoriales donde cada palabra y efecto sonoros son importantes para la comprensión. En resumen, eres un grande Mike!!!! Y estoy deseando ver tu próximo proyecto! 🚀🇪🇸 (Normalmente no dejo comentarios tan largos pero este vídeo lo merece)
I love the genuine excitement you have on your journey. For someone who hasn't done 3D CAD or printing before you dove straight into the deep end and crushed it! I can't wait to see what you do next! Well done!
well done. and what I like a lot is that you don't need any license or registration for such a gun, which in Germany is a serious difficulty. truly beautiful.
List of things to destroy 1. Dummy head 2. Glass 3. Plushies 4. Human head (optional) 5. Drywall 6. Another nerf blaster Reply suggestions: Watermelons little.big.drone.operator Tv Chips Armor plates Trump??? The annoying neighbor's kids Boba Cinderblock Human heart
0:05 the quality of that graphic is incredible. You even made sure the bullet is properly masked in front of the barrel while it's half outside! Very nice.
I'm just extremely impressed with the design of the mechanism - the fact that this can shoot multiple times before you need to build up pressure again, that's really clever
@@ehxjsjd4553 I was referring to Alexandre Chappel, who also made a powerful NERF gun. Mike talks about his project around 3:15. @IsntPhoenix was right about SmarterEveryDay (Destin) and TheBackyardScientist (Kevin)
I have been following a lot of craftsmanship, DIY and a lot of homemade things since the early 2000's, i saw a lot of stuff being built, and a lot of people building, and let me tell you, you are, without a doubt, one of the best that i have come in contact with, one of the most fun, simple and practical content creators of this type. Keep going man, you are awsome, and your projects are very creative and inventive, you are incredible!
"Hey wanna play with nerf guns?" "Sure" "Sadly i only have two nerf guns, you'll have to get the smaller one and I'll get the other nerf gun" The other nerf gun:
Nah this is so tuff and impressive bro figuring out the engineering from scratch without knowing what to do but still coming up with an elegant design is crazy. Plus the attention to detail and dedication to trying to push yourself. Presented in a super engaging and relatable way, i felt your excitement when it worked through the screen. Keep it up!
I've always wondered about trying to build a Nerf biathlon rifle, this is probably the closest anyone has ever got to it! Try using half-length darts next (ideally from Dartzone), they are faster and more accurate. You should definitely test long range accuracy with different ammo. Also Dartzone darts have better glue than original Nerf darts and use thicker foam, so they are far more durable. Of course they have never been tested at supersonic speed, so I'm not sure how they'll behave, but I'm pretty certain that they'll be much better than the standard-length darts you used.
You also get better results when the rubber head has a much smaller diameter than the foam body (like those half-lengths from Dart Zone or Worker). The flexible foam body expands under pressure to provide an air seal so you don't leak pressure, but also causes drag (not as much as rubber). Bamboo style darts keep the seal, but reduce barrel drag. Those hard plastic darts may have trouble sealing the air behind the dart, and/or cause too much barrel drag.
To add another option. Worker half darts have even better glue than Dartzone, and are easier to get in countries outside the USA. The 1.2g versions would probably work well here.
Hey, I've thought about making a competition rifle too! In my mind, I'd probably use a spexBZ just to make things easier, but tbh I haven't gotten much further than that lol.
15:20 It's because there is a huge surge of hair that pushes the bullet out before the bullet comes out, the air is still behind the bullet in the barrel note that as the bullet reaches the end of the barrel, the space that the air can expand in increases so when the bullet leaves, the air leaves the barrel in a less stressed state, and you hear that whistling since it's a small barrel the air has to go through
I really like the eureka moments that can happen when something finally clicks. Like when you figured out you needed lower pressure to go supersonic. You bash your head against a wall for hours or days, and then out of nowhere it just clicks and it's all sorted. I work in IT, I'm very closely acquainted with this demon lmao
Try using half length darts, they should hold up way better. Dart Zone makes good ones and so does Worker. They have better quality foam than the average nerf dart, they go faster, and they are incredibly more accurate. A pack of 150 costs around 10 bucks so you should be able to enjoy shooting without running out quick.
Mike shake is so incredible, he’s really a great person. He tried all of these things nobody else would try. He inspires those who aren’t brave enough, and he teaches people too. Now, if you dislike this guy you might change your mind later. But, I wanna give a big thanks to mike shakes 👍🏻👍🏻👍🏻 🤘🏻🤘🏻 🤘🏻🎉🎉🎉
The honesty when messing up, the strive to continue, the fact that you are showing both the metrical and hamburger numbers for anyone to understand, the pure frustration and pure joy, the project itself, everything is perfection. Congrats, well deserved round of thunderous applause 👏👏👏👏👏👏👏👏👏👏👏
I build and design airgun ( pcp) parts for retail and this was impressive. .. The speed of the pilot valve is key to the operation of a qev , and I was soo happy when you figured that out. Awesome project. A hammer system ( to fire the pilot ) is generally easier , but the large spring works also.
@7:46 when the hole appeared in your target, I felt like I had just been on that 30 day journey with you. The biggest smile on my face seeing progress being made.
Yo that montage at 16:12 is giving me goosebumps, really got to my inner child with jaw dropping awe. I’m proud for you man take pride in that thing foreal. Bringing dreams to life ❤
Awesome video dude. Love the "I'm just gonna figure this out as I go" mentality of tackling projects. I think you learn much more that way, rather than doing all of the research beforehand and just building and pretending to be an expert on a thing. It's much more human. Keep up the awesome builds brother. Also, love the weathering job you did on this!
Just to be safe, make the trigger and tip of the barrel very clearly orange!! That makes it less scary for other people (and the cops) because now it looks very much like a real firearm. But amazing work as always!!
Because it most probably counts as a real firearm and is illegal. Idk about Italy, but in Poland it's a limit of 17 joules in an airgun. Anything above that needs to be registered. At the speed of sound with a 1g dart he gets around 58J, so in a LOT of places that's already a weapon that needs a license.
I've noticed that the darts didn't tear when you used the container with the hose. The hose creates resistance and prevents a sudden pressure spike that would destroy the darts. You could vary the hose's diameter and length to achieve optimal pressure in the barrel during the shot, ideally maintaining a pressure close to critical throughout the entire barrel length. As for the projectiles you want to print, it's best to make them aerodynamically stable. Otherwise, you'll need a rifled barrel where the twist rate matters, or the projectiles will spin in the air, reducing accuracy.
The breakdown of the valve system was really cool and well done. Showing how the air moves and how the system can be reused in the digital version really helps to understand how the whole thing works. I would guess the wispy noise it was making was bc the system was overcharged and the extra pressure that is in the system after ripping the dart apart is slowly leaking from the second tank from the trigger system not being reset instantly. When the everything is lined up right all the pressure is pushing the dart the whole way and there is no extra to leak
you can modify an electronic irrigation valve (a solenoid water valve) to work manually without a battery and with air. there are a bunch of guides online, but essentially you drill a hole in the top of the valve where the bar travels into when the solenoid is energized normally, and you install an air fitting. then you simply attach an air filter cleaner with some air hose to that fitting. then you put air pressure on the input side of the value (where water normally goes in) and your output air on the output side of the valve. when you press the trigger on the air filter cleaner gun (which in normal use would start shooting out air) it will allow air to flow through teh valve instantly. or nearly instantly. this is because of how the diaphragm inside of the solenoid valve works. alternatively, you could just use a 9 volt battery to trigger the valve and not modify the valve at all. either way, solenoid valves for garden irrigation tend to open WAY faster than most other valves you will find. its like a resettable burst disc in a way
Personally I’d go with proper pneumatic solenoids over irrigation solenoids. They aren’t that expensive of aliexpress and are designed to handle high air pressures
This was an amazin project... Loved it. Cant wait for part 2. Your skills learning journey has been amazing to watch.. Thank you for sharing and bringing us along with you.
The noise you hear afterwards is what you explained in the valve explanation. It is the 400 psi being refilled in the second tank after your shot. Next, try 3d printing a Nerf dart and using a solid design dart. It will be heavier forcing a higher PSI to get the same speed, but the damage will be WAY higher, so be careful.
First time seeing your channel, and seeing the fails and how you overcome them to turn this into a successes is just fantastic. And the fact you give very clear shout outs to a lot of people you watched and that inspired you, many of which I'm subscribed to, is just next level gentlemanly and deserves a sub from me. And also...now I want to build one of these lmao
My favourite RUclipsr. Please don’t stop this kind of content. It reminds me of the glory days of RUclips. My childhood. I’m 27 now, but I still love these kinds of videos
Edit: In pt.2 I'll obviously measure the speed of the supersonic shots to verify it's actually supersonic. Also I’m gonna get better darts (half length) and try a few interesting projectiles. Also I’m currently trying to organize something here in the US for part 2 so there’ll probably be another video in between, but I think it'll be worth it.
Edit 2: shout out to Joerg (slingshot channel) and IDAT who made similar projects way back, I wasn't aware of them but they're great. Check them out too!
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Bro creat your video in hindi plz i m from pakistan plz
I think you gain your subscribers in few months
I recommend you add groves in the barrel, kinda like what real guns have, so that the bullets spin which adds stability and makes the shots straighter.
How about use 3D printer bullets
There's something really nice about a channel run by a guy who doesn't know what he's doing, admits he doesn't know what he's doing, show's us his failures, shows us the genuine shock when something works, and all around takes the audience for the entire ride through a project
Stop being naive. It's the internet.
@@korcidiamond3623 Stop being toxic
This sounds like a gun
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@@korcidiamond3623stop being toxic
There's a few things going on here that the lower pressure solved for you.
First, the darts will explode and get shredded at higher pressures because they're smaller than the diameter of the barrel. When the valve dumps, that sudden blast of air pressure forces the foam to expand outward and squeeze to the inner diameter of the barrel, creating an air-tight seal. This is known as Obturation. If your pressure rises too high too fast, the projectile will expand too much and seal too tightly against the barrel, and that will shred it from the pressure differences, acceleration forces, and friction. This also causes the head to fly off, and the dart to leave in more than one piece, since the foam section is smashed against the walls of the barrel while the smaller dart head is free to separate. The lower pressures are more gentle, allowing the dart to fully obturate the barrel immediately and accelerate more uniformly, staying together and leaving the barrel in one piece with all of the pressure remaining behind it the whole length of travel for maximum efficiency.
Second, the hissing sound you hear at higher pressures is called Valve Lock. This happens a lot when trying to tune Large-Bore hunting PCP airguns. Whether because the projectile is being shredded or leaving the barrel before pressure can equalize, the pressure in the barrel drops too fast, and the valve can't close until you reset the system. Or put your hand over the muzzle, probably. Rapid-dump valves like this need forward pressure from the barrel to help close the valve again against the static pressure in the bottle, and this usually happens before the projectile even leaves the barrel. The lower firing pressure means that the valve can equalize more quickly and close properly, conserving air and dumping its energy more efficiently.
It's this efficiency that got you the greater velocities.
Very interesting, thanks!
I feel like I'm on Physics lession...
@@lisaridener7514 High pressure increase squishes the dart, making it get stuck in the barrel and rip apart. The valve also isnt made for this application so going from very high (firing) to very low (projectile leaves barrel) pressure makes the valve get stuck halfway. (hissing noise)
Therefore lowering the pressure a bit stops the dart from getting squished and thus leaves in one piece, and stops the valve from getting stuck. Both help the projectile get more performance for less pressure.
@@MikeShake So based off what @SnowblindOtter said, you can pump the pressure back up to 600 PSI but you need the projectile to fit snuggly inside the barrel and to calibrate the barrel length to the PSI your using.
If your going to do 3d printed projectiles, I'd recommend a Teflon seal around the projectile, Teflon tape would work for this, just create a groove around the projectile and wrap tape inside this groove, when air pressure increases behind the projectile, the Teflon will expand and create a very strong seal. What I used to do with potato cannons was a 3d printed wad that had a set of rubber O rings around it, the wad pushed the projectile (A potato) and almost doubled the FPS I was getting.
If you want to truly push this creation to its limit, look up discarding sabots. They've been 3d printed before and used in HHO guns, the velocity you could achieve with those could actually be lethal with this gun.
I'll see if I can find it but I remember seeing equations on an airgun forum specifically for figuring out what barrel length is required.
@proteusmaximo8659 that's because almost all MikeShake's videos are physics lessons.
I love how this guy comes up with the most batshit insane stuff
search i did a thing. hes basically a more unhinged version of mike shake
@@lorenzopinezi Isn't he one of the boy boy guys?
@@LifeInJambles yes he is
@@lorenzopineziI’m so family friendly compared to Idat 🤣 Love his channel tho
@@lorenzopinezi family friendly, italian i did a thing basically
this isn't a nerf, this a buff
Good one
valid option
underrated comment
Now challenge children to a nerf battle
oh god
edit: thanks for the likes
wild
We leaving permanent scars with this one 🔥🔥🗣🗣
i gotta get ny hands on this gun to do just that
with the 3d printed bullets :D
"Nothing exploded so far! Definitely a good sign." A true engineer
That´s right!!!! A TRUE engineer... We usualy make things explode just in order to get all the fun!!!🤣
"nothing went wrong so far!" nuclear engineer-
Absolutely 😅😅
jajajajajaja TRUE
Honestly, Mike, I don't mind it taking long for videos to be edited because you're working on them yourself.
The quality is always top notch, AND I am entertained while feeling more educated going out of one of your vids.
Keep up your work!
I absolutely love the vibe of the video. Starting from knowing nothing and then explaining things in a way that is understandable to people of the same knowledge standard. Genuinely a joy to watch, and the gun is absolutely awesome!
morgan&morgan sponsoring a guy to make a dangerous machine with youtube videos as their core research is honestly 4D chess on their part
A guy from Italy btw
21:58 Be sure to make those darts nose-heavy, because if you just print them out of solid plastic, the center of mass will be behind the aerodynamic center of pressure.
(make the rear part of the dart hollow, add a little weight to the tip of the dart)
^
3rd this motion
Damn
Avgeeks always save the day.
I think it would also be cool to see this shoot half darts from Worker or Dart Zone like what most Nerf modders use nowadays to shoot straighter and faster. The regular Nerf branded darts (and their knockoffs) are notoriously pretty bad.
This is honestly amazing. That is a super sick looking blaster, and the fact it uses air to shoot something faster than the speed of sound with a relatively simple setup is mind boggling to me. Congrats on pushing through the pain and worry -- that blaster is a trophy of engineering, and I'm definitely jealous you have it.
can you really call this a blaster when it is literally a PCP air rifle
I love how this guy shows his fails and his excitement when it actually works this guy might be one of the best
Most fire video yet.
most supersonic
I guess you could say it was.. a blast
@@V3RT3X_PINNACLE :l
Bet cant wait to watch this
It’s like that one song from queen
Great job! In fact you should increase the power of the spring that yanks open the valve. Yours seems a bit weak. I used rubber bands of course, and lots of them. The faster you open the valve, the harder the shot.
Joerg! So sorry I didn’t mention you in the video. I later on added you in the pinned comment when somebody mentioned your arrow launcher. It was insane! Do you think even if I’m using a QEV valve, the fast activation of the ball valve would have that much of an impact on the overall speed?
@@MikeShake The problem with QEV valves is that the max pressure is fairly low and the throughput is limited. My experience is that the highest power can be achieved by using super high pressure - I go up to about 300 bar - and then yank open a ball valve as fast as possible, You need to reduce the friction in the barrel so the dart stays intact. Maybe it would make sense to put some oil or grease on it. Also I recommend trying a sabot, maybe some soft tissue, behind the dart so the air hit is cushioned a bit.
@@SlingshotchannelDon't forget though adding a bit of oil to an airgun may not bode well using foam darts if diesling occurs. Sounds fun when it happens with air rifles but in this configuration it may cause unwanted results.
It's the JOERG
@@Slingshotchannel do you perceive any additional benefit to perhaps using a Rupture disc as the valve? It's already a muzzle-loading device, so replacing one each shot wouldn't meaningfully interrupt the loading->firing process. I feel like it could help with trying to push velocities as high as possible, as well as changing the gas.
For those who are interested: The arrows from the blaster have an energy of 58.821 joules at the speed of sound. Not too bad...
Damn. That's half of a .22 LR.
Enough for home defense 👍
@@Necro-the-Pyro it's like a high end .22 air rifle. which is pretty much exactly what this thing is. he just built a PCP air rifle.
I have one that does 80 joules myself but that's on the higher end for .22 air rifles.
@@zwenkwiel816 still impressive for a nerf bullet
@@Necro-the-Pyro yeah very much, especially since he pretty much built the thing from scratch
Thank you for your hardwork just for entertaining us❤❤
wow the content really changed. it went from mike trying to survive, to learing skills. to him making the sickest weapons ever that can shoot (almost) as fast as a gun. Good job!
some guns actually shoot subsonic bullets fyi, so it is actually faster than some guns!
its insane
.22 shorts are noticeably slower than the speed of sound. It is kinda funny, shot them at a distance of 50yrds and could actually see the bullet drop through the scope. It felt like throwing rocks. The interwebs suggests that a 22 short is somewhere in the neighborhood of about 900fps.
It’s like he’s representing our journey as a species. He’s the ultimate survivor
when you 3d print your own custom darts, tracer darts would look so interesting when shot at night. You could make a tracer dart by puting a small led and a very small button cell inside/at the back of the 3d printed dart. Also you could try printing the darts with glow in the dark filament and charging them with a black light before loading them in.
Great idea
Hi mike
@@MikeShake You can actually get some "real" tracer foam darts from a company called worker. They're a shorter length, but that might actually help them go faster.
There's also a company that makes a tracer faux suppressor type thing, depending on the OD of your barrel might mount on the end with no modification. It's called the T238, and also imparts spin on the darts to help stabilize them. Obviously not meant for these velocities though so might not be useful at all.
3d print "better darts"... seems rather like "bullets" to me
@@MikeShake try to create a whistling dart
"Next I'm going to 3d print some darts" I guess calling them "darts" keeps you out of trouble instead of saying "bullets"
Honestly you might be right! I gotta look into it. Maybe I’ll just print the tips and use a better glue with the foam
@@MikeShake Half-length darts with strong glue have been available for high FPS blasters in the Nerf hobby for a while now - might be worth checking out a few options to see if one meets your needs. Worker "Gen 3 bamboo" darts have strong glue and crimped rings to reduce friction in the barrel.
@@noahthebricksterthere's also the new saber tournament darts. After Bradley Phillips review of them, they look to be the most durable.
@@MikeShake don't use foam use iron
@@MikeShake use lead tips and brass body perhaps
Very seldom I give my thumbs up,
Awesome job sir, truly a remarkable piece through your tribulations of this masterpiece.
Deserves praise for the sleek look, and formality of the design 🎉
As someone who has some 'Nerf for adult" blasters.
Dart Zone and Worker half length darts are considered to be one of the best in the scene right now.
Some of the high end blasters (Dart Zone Pro line, Gameface Trion and Worker blasters) are doing 200-300 FPS out of the box so those darts are made with these numbers in mind, where Nerf Elite darts are designed for 70-80 FPS.
The community would be more than welcome to help you out!
I also wondered abut the darts- looked like the first ones he was using may have actually been new old stock streamline darts, which would certainly explain why they were failing. Not only were those designed with about half the pressure/velocity in mind as Elite darts, but they were probably significantly older as well, allowing more time for the material to begin to break down. But yeah, going with Workers or something else more suited to hobbyist grade blasters would probably give even better results.
he would be more than welcome to contact the community and the community would be more than happy to help him out.
It was funny watching this and going, "Yep, Spectre figured a lot of this out years ago..." although his goal was never supersonic and instead wanted repeatability and had a formfactor he was trying to fit, so the design parameters are a lot different.
When going for supersonic, you definitely should go 'old school' with solid-core front-weighted 'Stefans', traditionally made out of foam backer rod.
The new siren darts might be better suited for this task
Not sure he can get his hands on any tho
Love me some waffle tips.
Mike Shake is becoming an Italian version of I did a thing😂
Yeh true
Better version imo, has more creativity and more variety
@@gocomitdeadI did a thing has been in the game longer, he couldn’t make this cause he already did the tampon gun
@@HateHater2205 I know, what I mean is that his content is becoming a lesser more repetitive version of what it used to be, his humour also is becoming stale
@@gocomitdeadHe's also kind of an asshole,i stopped watching him after his beef with brandon Herrera
Really nice look on that final build. Absolutely beautiful! 😄
Dude! Not only did you manage the supersonic darts but the blaster also looks AMAZING!
Thanks so much Alex. I’ve been super impressed by your design and skills. I feel like your biggest limit was the kind of projectile you were using. It was probably stretching a lot inside the barrel increasing the friction. I’m confident that with a nerf dart you would’ve shot faster!
He didn't though. Something else is going on here. He's not the first to try. Backyard Scientist debunked the last guy who faked it.
@@MikeShake YOU ARE A GENIUS
I really appreciate the little diagrams you include explaining how everything works. Makes it much easier to understand how it actually works.
If you shoot a metal dart? It wouldn't be like a gun
Jail time probably (for now). Once I'm back in Italy I'll get a license
@@MikeShake wouldnt it be airgun?
@@Jarmo23 the velocity of the projectile classifies it as a firearm iirc
@@alqiwa so my air rifle shoots supersonic so it is firearm??
@@Jarmo23 depends on your laws, at least in canada, it would be
Amazing video ❤ it looked so cool in all black tbh 😍
I love that mike is just doing what he truly loves
Bro I'm pausing the video immediately to say THANK YOU for the real time animation of the system! (9:00) That is so incredibly helpful for my understanding and visualization of what's going on. I really wish more video of this style would do it like that! Where reasonable of course. in matters of things that are to fast for human perception i would just like a nice unit of ten scaled speed.
Do you know what parts he's using? Like the name, because I want to build my own
@@deutscheBratwurstEnte i dont but lol i love the fact your using this as a TUTORIAL 💀
I remember watching his channel when it used to be about skills, but now I am convinced Mike is a trained assassin
Fr
Eres el único canal de RUclips que pone un buen doblaje español, muy natural. (Aunque no sé si Eres tu el que habla en realidad)
Enhorabuena Mike por tu creatividad
Watching people from outside the performance "nerf" hobby rediscover/learn things that the community already figured out a while ago is always fascinating and wholesome.
“Hey wanna play nerf guns?”
“Sure, let me get out my new toy… “💀
**Health bar appears** 💀
@@ProteusMaximoGolden reply bro 💀🙏
"Hey wanna play nerf guns?"
*Stares*
*Walks away*
*Returns a few months later with this*
"Yes"
@UncleWermus 💀😂💀😂🇺🇸
"press shift to run"
This guy is straight up becoming an engineer
Pov: If the MC from Dr. Stone were rational and didn't make a damn phone 2 seasons straight instead
@@ProteusMaximo Like Senku if he wanted to easily could have created a gun
He was an actual engineer. He quit his job to start this channel and I guess now he's gone back to his roots but as a hobby instead of a full time job
He is legit
@@shepardice3775 can you tell what kind of engineering is this? Is it mechanical? I am in computer science engineering and I think I can't do or understand this stuff even in my dreams.
¡Wow, qué increíble vídeo! Es fascinante ver a alguien llevar un proyecto como crear un blaster de dardos Nerf supersónico de la idea a la realidad. Desde el principio, me atrapó la claridad con la que se explicaban los conceptos técnicos y los procesos de construcción. El nivel de detalle y precisión en cada paso del proyecto es impresionante. Es evidente que Mike no solo tiene un profundo conocimiento de la ingeniería detrás de este tipo de artilugios, sino que también posee una gran habilidad para comunicar esos conocimientos de una manera accesible y entretenida 😊
Además, me encantó cómo Mike se tomó el tiempo para explicar los fundamentos científicos detrás del blaster de dardos Nerf supersónico. En lugar de simplemente mostrar el resultado final, hizo un excelente trabajo desglosando las leyes físicas y los principios de aerodinámica involucrados. Esto no solo hace que el vídeo sea informativo, sino que también inspira a los espectadores a aprender más sobre ciencia y tecnología.
La inclusión de tomas en cámara lenta para capturar el funcionamiento del blaster en acción fue particularmente impresionante, permitiendo apreciar realmente la velocidad y precisión del dispositivo.
En cuanto a la producción, los valores de cinematografía son excepcionales. La iluminación está bien controlada, y cada toma está enmarcada de manera que realza los detalles importantes del proyecto. El sonido es nítido y claro, lo que es crucial en vídeos tutoriales donde cada palabra y efecto sonoros son importantes para la comprensión.
En resumen, eres un grande Mike!!!! Y estoy deseando ver tu próximo proyecto! 🚀🇪🇸 (Normalmente no dejo comentarios tan largos pero este vídeo lo merece)
I love the genuine excitement you have on your journey. For someone who hasn't done 3D CAD or printing before you dove straight into the deep end and crushed it! I can't wait to see what you do next! Well done!
well done. and what I like a lot is that you don't need any license or registration for such a gun, which in Germany is a serious difficulty. truly beautiful.
7:48 I love the transformation of genuine shock to genuine joy on Mike's face 😂🤣😂😂
7:52 you were way off.
the smile looked straight evil
@@arkasha6649no he wasnt bro😭
This is one the best videos I watched on youtube in a long time. Excellent! Great design and fabrication!
0:12 The idea that a nerf dart can travel through air above the speed of sound without disintegrating is exciting
Brand darts can't
List of things to destroy
1. Dummy head
2. Glass
3. Plushies
4. Human head (optional)
5. Drywall
6. Another nerf blaster
Reply suggestions:
Watermelons
little.big.drone.operator
Tv
Chips
Armor plates
Trump???
The annoying neighbor's kids
Boba
Cinderblock
Human heart
Yes
Watermelons?
i volunteer as tribute
@@little.big.drone.operatorLmao
and a tv screen
0:05 the quality of that graphic is incredible. You even made sure the bullet is properly masked in front of the barrel while it's half outside! Very nice.
Bro its only 5 seconds in
These comments are briandead
I'm just extremely impressed with the design of the mechanism - the fact that this can shoot multiple times before you need to build up pressure again, that's really clever
VERY cool project!
Alex, Kevin, and Destin definitely should see this.
Who are they buddy?
Destin = smarter every day
kevin = back yard scientist
Alex = ?
@@IsntPhoenix Alex is "I did a thing" or IDAT im guessing. an Aussie youtube channel that does similar things.
@@ehxjsjd4553 I was referring to Alexandre Chappel, who also made a powerful NERF gun. Mike talks about his project around 3:15.
@IsntPhoenix was right about SmarterEveryDay (Destin) and TheBackyardScientist (Kevin)
Mike will be the coolest grandpa one day
Fr
like yours
If he has kids
I feel that with each video you’re getting closer to joining me in the dark side …
And by dark side I mean the FBI black list .
Imagine after August
Collab when? 😉
"We built jet powered nunchaku, fueled by water!"
welcome to the club! LOL😈
@@theprogrammer1imagine if Electro boom joins them
@integza I'm a huge a fan😊😊
I have been following a lot of craftsmanship, DIY and a lot of homemade things since the early 2000's, i saw a lot of stuff being built, and a lot of people building, and let me tell you, you are, without a doubt, one of the best that i have come in contact with, one of the most fun, simple and practical content creators of this type. Keep going man, you are awsome, and your projects are very creative and inventive, you are incredible!
"Hey wanna play with nerf guns?"
"Sure"
"Sadly i only have two nerf guns, you'll have to get the smaller one and I'll get the other nerf gun"
The other nerf gun:
and the smaller one is an off-brand jolt reskin
@@epicgaming11195off brands are better usually
the smaller one is the nerf uppercut@@epicgaming11195
Nah this is so tuff and impressive bro figuring out the engineering from scratch without knowing what to do but still coming up with an elegant design is crazy. Plus the attention to detail and dedication to trying to push yourself. Presented in a super engaging and relatable way, i felt your excitement when it worked through the screen. Keep it up!
Those 22 minutes felt like 8 minutes so good!!!
bro doesn't give up and grinds you inspire me thanks man keep it up bro
I've always wondered about trying to build a Nerf biathlon rifle, this is probably the closest anyone has ever got to it! Try using half-length darts next (ideally from Dartzone), they are faster and more accurate. You should definitely test long range accuracy with different ammo. Also Dartzone darts have better glue than original Nerf darts and use thicker foam, so they are far more durable. Of course they have never been tested at supersonic speed, so I'm not sure how they'll behave, but I'm pretty certain that they'll be much better than the standard-length darts you used.
You also get better results when the rubber head has a much smaller diameter than the foam body (like those half-lengths from Dart Zone or Worker). The flexible foam body expands under pressure to provide an air seal so you don't leak pressure, but also causes drag (not as much as rubber). Bamboo style darts keep the seal, but reduce barrel drag. Those hard plastic darts may have trouble sealing the air behind the dart, and/or cause too much barrel drag.
To add another option. Worker half darts have even better glue than Dartzone, and are easier to get in countries outside the USA. The 1.2g versions would probably work well here.
Hey, I've thought about making a competition rifle too!
In my mind, I'd probably use a spexBZ just to make things easier, but tbh I haven't gotten much further than that lol.
15:20
It's because there is a huge surge of hair that pushes the bullet out
before the bullet comes out, the air is still behind the bullet in the barrel
note that as the bullet reaches the end of the barrel, the space that the air can expand in increases
so when the bullet leaves, the air leaves the barrel in a less stressed state, and you hear that whistling since it's a small barrel the air has to go through
@Bobl_stuff_ LMAO I didn't notice that typo.
but I'm leaving it there anyway
@@Aberrant2 W typo tbh
@@nexus3756 true
But how would it be different when it’s only 400 psi, is there some threshold needed?
What about longer barrel pressure match?
"Heres how to NEVER lose a nerf war, Step 1, Build a supersonic nerf blaster."
And so the inevitable march to nuclear NERF began
yeah but then the reason you'd never lose a nerf war would be because everyone else is either in a hospital or 5 feet under
😕
@@aaabatteries5728 it wont hit em too hard
@@TJOC-e3q well not enough to vaporize them for sure
@@aaabatteries5728 exactly
This is truly the kind of content i needed to feel motivated in my life
One hell of a piece of art!!
I really like the eureka moments that can happen when something finally clicks. Like when you figured out you needed lower pressure to go supersonic. You bash your head against a wall for hours or days, and then out of nowhere it just clicks and it's all sorted.
I work in IT, I'm very closely acquainted with this demon lmao
Try using half length darts, they should hold up way better. Dart Zone makes good ones and so does Worker. They have better quality foam than the average nerf dart, they go faster, and they are incredibly more accurate. A pack of 150 costs around 10 bucks so you should be able to enjoy shooting without running out quick.
I might be stupid, but would the darts hold up better if you made them more firm by putting them in a freezer? cuz then you could use real nerf darts
Mike shake is so incredible, he’s really a great person. He tried all of these things nobody else would try. He inspires those who aren’t brave enough, and he teaches people too. Now, if you dislike this guy you might change your mind later. But, I wanna give a big thanks to mike shakes 👍🏻👍🏻👍🏻 🤘🏻🤘🏻 🤘🏻🎉🎉🎉
The honesty when messing up, the strive to continue, the fact that you are showing both the metrical and hamburger numbers for anyone to understand, the pure frustration and pure joy, the project itself, everything is perfection. Congrats, well deserved round of thunderous applause 👏👏👏👏👏👏👏👏👏👏👏
Everyone give Mike a like. Doesnt cost anything. Yet he spent 13k euros for a video. A like is the least we could do...
Mike slowly becoming like a science channel, epic
16:21 he looks like Tony stark there
yesss....❤
I build and design airgun ( pcp) parts for retail and this was impressive. .. The speed of the pilot valve is key to the operation of a qev , and I was soo happy when you figured that out. Awesome project. A hammer system ( to fire the pilot ) is generally easier , but the large spring works also.
5:25 pipe really said "ahhhhhhh 😩😩"
XD
@7:46 when the hole appeared in your target, I felt like I had just been on that 30 day journey with you. The biggest smile on my face seeing progress being made.
This man really needs to be appreciated for this work he does for us. Good job as always,Mike.
I love how this guy dedicates his time to do these things we thought were never possible and going through the pain for us… respect 🫡
My dream job was to be a blacksmith, amd do stuff like this, amd this video brought that feeling back. Thank you, and its just an amazing video.
LOVE THIS
Absolutely an amazing video, never watched your channel before but wow, crazy quality
Your enthusiasm is contagious. Congratulations on the achievement!
that is really impressive the engineering is top tier
Yo that montage at 16:12 is giving me goosebumps, really got to my inner child with jaw dropping awe. I’m proud for you man take pride in that thing foreal. Bringing dreams to life ❤
Yeah I'm not a gun guy but that is a thing of beauty. Inner child is 100% activated 😅
Wow, you really grit this one out. The dedication 🔥
Awesome video dude. Love the "I'm just gonna figure this out as I go" mentality of tackling projects. I think you learn much more that way, rather than doing all of the research beforehand and just building and pretending to be an expert on a thing. It's much more human. Keep up the awesome builds brother.
Also, love the weathering job you did on this!
Just to be safe, make the trigger and tip of the barrel very clearly orange!! That makes it less scary for other people (and the cops) because now it looks very much like a real firearm. But amazing work as always!!
Good idea, I’ll 3D print an orange tip. Thanks!
Because it most probably counts as a real firearm and is illegal. Idk about Italy, but in Poland it's a limit of 17 joules in an airgun. Anything above that needs to be registered. At the speed of sound with a 1g dart he gets around 58J, so in a LOT of places that's already a weapon that needs a license.
This is closer to a real gun than a toy now anyways
Just the tip!
@@tomclanys In Canada, over 900 fps, it's a firearm.
bro how fast the nerf bullet went at 8:27 no even the flash could dodge it that's wild any ways love this guy hope he keeps up the good work
Probably 18:27 buddy
I love watching your videos man! keep up the good work 🙌🙌
I've noticed that the darts didn't tear when you used the container with the hose. The hose creates resistance and prevents a sudden pressure spike that would destroy the darts. You could vary the hose's diameter and length to achieve optimal pressure in the barrel during the shot, ideally maintaining a pressure close to critical throughout the entire barrel length. As for the projectiles you want to print, it's best to make them aerodynamically stable. Otherwise, you'll need a rifled barrel where the twist rate matters, or the projectiles will spin in the air, reducing accuracy.
The breakdown of the valve system was really cool and well done. Showing how the air moves and how the system can be reused in the digital version really helps to understand how the whole thing works. I would guess the wispy noise it was making was bc the system was overcharged and the extra pressure that is in the system after ripping the dart apart is slowly leaking from the second tank from the trigger system not being reset instantly. When the everything is lined up right all the pressure is pushing the dart the whole way and there is no extra to leak
This guy is literally the definition of the friend that has too much free time 😂
We all appreciate your meticulous work man, ill wait months for any update, your posts are great!
Dude, great job. Way to get it done and accomplish a goal. Taking the time to learn from other and improve on their ideas, great work man.
you can modify an electronic irrigation valve (a solenoid water valve) to work manually without a battery and with air. there are a bunch of guides online, but essentially you drill a hole in the top of the valve where the bar travels into when the solenoid is energized normally, and you install an air fitting. then you simply attach an air filter cleaner with some air hose to that fitting. then you put air pressure on the input side of the value (where water normally goes in) and your output air on the output side of the valve. when you press the trigger on the air filter cleaner gun (which in normal use would start shooting out air) it will allow air to flow through teh valve instantly. or nearly instantly. this is because of how the diaphragm inside of the solenoid valve works.
alternatively, you could just use a 9 volt battery to trigger the valve and not modify the valve at all. either way, solenoid valves for garden irrigation tend to open WAY faster than most other valves you will find. its like a resettable burst disc in a way
Personally I’d go with proper pneumatic solenoids over irrigation solenoids. They aren’t that expensive of aliexpress and are designed to handle high air pressures
nice project! Getting a soft spongy foam dart up to mach one is almost physics breaking, well done.
te faltó hacer las rayas helicoidales en el cañón, pero dentro de todo, te felicito. 🎉❤
This was an amazin project... Loved it. Cant wait for part 2. Your skills learning journey has been amazing to watch.. Thank you for sharing and bringing us along with you.
The noise you hear afterwards is what you explained in the valve explanation. It is the 400 psi being refilled in the second tank after your shot. Next, try 3d printing a Nerf dart and using a solid design dart. It will be heavier forcing a higher PSI to get the same speed, but the damage will be WAY higher, so be careful.
15:50 broooo you kidding 🔥💀 the neighborhood kids gonna dwell on this thing
You make it seem like you struggle, but you pull off the most epic builds! Very cool
love from South Africa 🇿🇦🇿🇦
He took the design from the NTW20, made in your country 🎉
You should definitely try dart zone bamboo darts and half darts they use a much stronger glue.
Video excelente. Felicidades! Muy buena narración y explicaciones. Me gustaría tener tu creatividad
First time seeing your channel, and seeing the fails and how you overcome them to turn this into a successes is just fantastic. And the fact you give very clear shout outs to a lot of people you watched and that inspired you, many of which I'm subscribed to, is just next level gentlemanly and deserves a sub from me. And also...now I want to build one of these lmao
7:50 the shock on his face. I can't-
all that research is gonna get bro investigated by the FBI 💀
the FBI that has no jurisdiction in Italy, of course
Oh no, a worse gun, so scary
@@1chrisanderson He's in Portugal now I think
FBI OPEN UP
well he practically made a functional gun from scratch
7:52 bro we smiled at the same time
My favourite RUclipsr.
Please don’t stop this kind of content. It reminds me of the glory days of RUclips. My childhood. I’m 27 now, but I still love these kinds of videos
Wow we are living the exact same experience. I feel like i rediscovered the old youtube! My algorithm is healing