Klim Hardanger one piece suit review
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- Опубликовано: 28 авг 2024
- In this video review, Chris and Sean talk through the amazing Klim Hardanger one piece suit. The Hardanger is a bang up-to-date version of the Aerostich concept; a one-piece suit that can be worn over casual or business clothing. Constructed from a Gore-Tex three-layer Pro Shell with 750 dernier Cordura panels, the suit comes complete with D3O armour in the shoulders, elbows, hips, knees and back. There are pockets and vents galore (in fact there are no less than 14 vents!) but, if ever there were an Achilles heel on the Hardanger, it would be that it lacks thermal qualities; you simply just have to layer up. Okay, it's also a bit stiff, but in terms of waterproofing, vents and protection, it really is state of the art. Chris and Sean explain all in this review.
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Would have been more appropriate to compare to Aerostich's modern suit: the R3. The R3 has full Gore-Tex lining and protective armor.
My 1-piece Roadcrafter Classic is 29 years old and still serves me well. So I wouldn't take a chance with anything else. Plus, I hear the latest incarnation of the Hardanger sacrifices the full length zipper for slightly better water tightness. Sorry, but I'm not giving up my full length zipper and the superior ease of entry/exit it provides. In my opinion, the unmatched ease of entry/exit is one of Aerostich's greatest advantages over other touring suits. It means there is absolutely no need to ever wear a somewhat bulky suit when not needed, even for a few minutes, since you can just step in or out of it in seconds. This means I almost never have to decide between safety and comfort. It is rarely ever too hot to ride in it with all the vents open, and if I stop I can just step out of it. Furthermore, I intentionally sized it to be a bit loose, so air would flow around me better with the vents open, and I could layer up under it in winter.
Anyway, I vote for the 'Stich.
Can't thank you enough for your videos! I'm getting back into riding in the North East US and your tips on apparel are appreciated.
Klim: 500 Cordura shell with 750 Cordura impact zones.
Aerostich: 500 Cordura shell with 1050 impact zones.
"So in terms of protection, it's moved on quite a ways from [Aerostich]"
I think you need to check the notes again...Also,
Klim: 9 pockets
Aerostich: 11 pockets (unless you add more when ordering)
When you look at the details, like the pass-through glove pocket, rare earth magnets to hold the collar down, the internal velcro for front, back and side protection, as well as the velcro straps on the arm and leg for map holders or additional pockets, you can see they are still the king of technical gear. Pair that with the ability to custom order a suit and choose the colors of the shell, abrasion zones, and stitching, not to mention having them sew on additional pockets, your own patches, heat shielding around the legs, etc. you can clearly see they are in a league of their own. Plus, if you go down in it- you can have it repaired by Aerostich. If it is irreparable, you get a discount on a new suit. I dont expect that level of customer service from Klim.
I really dont want to be a shill for Aerostich, but I was hoping the Klim would be better. They couldnt beat a 30 year old design ffs
Sounds like Astitch conwinced you that velcro and more pockets are good things jk. But seriously, thanks for highlighting the interior velcro, I will have my tailor add some custom customizing straps if I can see how astitch does there's. Safety 1st. Happy trails Boaty.
I’ve been seeing too many comments in riding groups about how Klim cheaps out on warranty issues. I’ve seen too many complaints about them not wanting to back their product. I’m going to check into a Motoport suit, otherwise I will go with Aerostitch. I hear nothing but good things about Aerostitch, as far as the company backing their product. I haven’t heard much about Motoport.
Nice to see Ronnie Corbett is alive and well.
Looks great but I prefer my Aerostitch. Its great for both touring and commuting and I have immense trust in its waterproofing.
Glad you got the pronunciation straight. :+ )
Chris, the chap in the cap motorlegends, I loved your grammar lesson. Super
I agree with your pronunciation of Klim. Thanks for the great review.
Had an aerostitch suit for nearly 30 years, black and grey and it came with memory type foam inserts for protection. It has leaked at the crotch from day one but only in heavy storms. To overcome this and to extend the riding season I bought two waterproof jackets, one with, one without a quilted lining. These take just a few seconds to climb in and out of. The one with a quilted lining means I stay so much warmer when the temperature drops.
About 5 years or so ago I encountered bovine excrement slicks on the road immediately after a gentle left hand bend and the bike dropped like a stone, I held on for a distance of 70 paces and was saved by the metal panniers and the pots of the GS but my left hip took the abrasion well and an oval hole approximately 6” x 4” down to the skin was the result plus a few surface grazes on the left leg of the suit.
One broken right wrist and two twisted knees, the full extent of my injuries. Both bike and rider stayed throughout the slide on the left side of the road, only at the point of stopping did it halt at or on the crown.
The Aerostitch was seriously bruised but it prevented my being shredded.
Impressed, I wanted another for a long trip into Europe, delivery time was beyond the return date of the trip and I managed to get a second hand one via eBay, it was older than my original, hardly used and one size too large….but I didn’t care and throughout one day of torrential rain, with my lightweight over jacket I remained completely dry. I’ve added a few pounds around my waist and the second suit fits just that little bit better nowadays.
Aerostitch are designed and manufactured around the shape of the rider when seated, in my opinion, that is why they are so comfortable and ridiculously quick to climb (oops) in and out of.
Not good to walk any distance and bulky to pack, but as a riding suit they are exceptional….in my opinion.
The Klim shape from what I have seen so far has been designed to fit many shapes whereas A’stitch provide a wide variety of sizes and in effect becomes very close to becoming a bespoke article.
Import taxes and freight costs make the A’stitch products really costly but if you intend to stay the same shape and have a long life expectancy, a good investment.
Comparing the two in this video, not difficult to decide which suit is the better looking, superior fit and design.
100% correct. You call it what you want. Your the Chap with the Cap! You have long established street credibility. All good here.
Great review! I'm an Aerostich fan but the Hardanger looks really good. If Aerostich did an updated, more modern Roadcrafter I'd have one but the Hardanger might just be my next suit.
Great video and still relevant in 2023.
Going to give some Aerostich Roadcrafter pants a try. Currently ride in Rukka pants over my work clothes and while they work they weren't really intended as an overpant. Jackets I find aren't any problem.. it's the pants part which is the headache with work/business clothes. Getting them on without taking shoes off can be a pest. One thing about Rukka that is great is the large armour and the pockets on the legs. Klim armour by comparison as in the Latitude pants is absolutley tiny and wobbles around everywhere. They won't go or off over shoes either. Looking forward to the Aerostich!
Possibly the best review I’ve ever seen. Just the honest truth/opinion. Fun to watch as well.
Will you be stocking the new 2021 version? I noticed they've changed the zip design so it's no longer one large zip for one side which I slightly think misses the point.
2 great guys...very informative...ALWAYS ENJOY THERE VIDEOS😄😃😄😃
Much appreciated!
Good for you on the name
Had one a sent it back. First one had a manufacturing problem and the one they sent back was joined at the crouch unlike Stich! Sent it back! Well made, but no hole for heated vest or access to pants pocket and joined at crouch killed it!
@motolegends I just purchased an aerostitch jacket and I don’t get the armor. Do you think the TF stands up to the the D3O?
I think the Aerostich looks better, but if I was buying a one-piece suit, it would be a made to measure Motoport Kevlar mesh suit with a detachable waterproof lining which is guaranteed for life.
And the worst of the lot: Spidi Admiral. A total waste of 600 pounds.
The Gen 1 suit leaks (Klim even admitted so) - so they ditched the one piece zipper for the current generation. The current suit has three zippers, none attached to each other. Two leg zippers and a chest zipper. So much for convenience...
I struggled to get into/out of it four times in my living room before I decided that the redesign was absolutely terrible. I can only picture myself on a ride in the rain, dragging my wet boots through the center of the suit (where I will be sitting), and having the top collar and shoulders laying on dirty asphalt while I struggle to put this on. This was a very expensive, but ultimately useless piece of equipment - fortunately I am able to return it.
The suit I tried (and returned) was a large but did not have enough room between the shoulders and the crotch. I couldn't lift my arms up above my shoulders, and it was tight around my bicep and in the armpit when reaching forward for the bars. I tried an XL on in the store - it felt fine but it looked ridiculously huge on me. I'm 5'11" and if I was going to actually keep this suit I'd need to get a large-tall, but then the inseam would probably be too long (I'm a 32".
I'm getting a 'Stich next week.
It’s personal choice and like the guys always say everything is a trade off. I have the second generation hardanger and I put it on before getting on the bike and before putting any technical boots on, getting in was never a big problem. it goes over my regular clothes on every commute, and when I get to work I just slip off, only had marginal leaks at the crotch and only under heavy monsoon rain here in tropical Australia. With all the vents open is cooler than any other gear I had and with all vents closed it’s certainly the most waterproof. Different strokes for different folks but your opinion is not absolute.
I contacted Klim some time ago about EN17092 certifications for their gear. All textiles were AA but the Hardanger was A.
Aerostitch doesn’t certify any of their stuff, suits or armour.
Neither is very protective by modern standards.
You get good armour with the Hardanger. But it is very challenging to make a suit like this and to ensure that is fully waterproof, fully vented, comfortable and high end protective. Everything is a trade off. Are there more protective suits, yes. Bear in mind, however, that in many circumstances that you will be wearing another layer of clothing beneath the suit. A lot of our customers will have a single layer jean beneath it which is going to make the combination pretty protective. ML
I crashed in a Aerostich suit, i high sided on a Yamaha R6 and i didnt break n e bones.
Delusion in the brain, it’s made of very marginal material and I wouldn’t trust it without a kevlar or covec base layer. I’ve crashed in jeans and t-shirts and suffered no injuries! That proves nothing. Or should I say, jeans and t-shirts are great protection because I wasn’t injured at all. No, of course not. Also, all the armour in the practical world won’t help you in some crashes. Road crashes are highly variable and can’t be used for scientific proof of anything unless you collect dozens or hundreds of them and get accident reports on all of them. Lab tests show Aerostich uses mediocre materials for crashworthiness but they are good for weather protection.
@@martinfoster5163 Then go buy some Klim, i just saw where the hard armor wore through the outer shell on one. Aerostich is a proven design, you dont have to buy it, i dont wear one n e more, i prefer my Vanson Jacket but everything is a trade off and the Aerostich does what its designed to do.
Can you remind me again how to pronounce the word "Thames". I forget. LOL
And the military rank “Left-Tenant” as well as “Beever” rather than “Belvoir” when the clerk at Leather & Snook in London was writing up our order for Belvoir Blue (cobalt) Royal Worcester…pronounced Wooster dinner China (er…I mean “Chiner”) that we then placed in the Boot of our MazzDer 3 Saloon and Toddled off. Limeys truly Are Delightful (even with Grennitch Mean Time and Pepperidge Farm “biscuits”).
Klim changed the Hardanger. It no longer has the full body zipper. I purchased a new one and tried putting it on. Took me 10 minutes of dancing around on one leg (without boots on)! Very difficult to put on and get off without that zipper. The only way to get the suit on/off without looking like an idiot, is to get one size too big...and then it looks like you're wear a sack. Very disappointed in this change...I really wanted this suit. Oh, well. Aerostitch is a very good second place.
Curious-I do some touring, sometimes street, sometimes off-road. I also ride throughout winter with my sidecar. Which suit would fit me best? 5’8”, 155 lb, tend to run a little cold. In cooler temperatures.
Minute 9:24 there is mention of a special rucksack for the suit. Do you know what they are called and do you stock them. If not where can I get one please.
Brilliant racing had by one and all here today at the First and Last Annual, One Piece Suit Strip Off and Redress Grand Prix. Join us tomorrow for the Guilded, Three Legged, Car Park Drag Races. Thanks again, adieu.
Klim, Climb, Klime. It is a little tricky to pronounce foreign brand names correctly.
Anyway, that Hard dangler looks like a pretty good suit.
But there is a macron placed over the "I" to make the pronunciation as the company pronounces KLIM.
I just love your videos👍
Not respecting how Klim pronounce their own brand is not actually cool. One of my best friend's name is Nail but pronounced Niall. That's how his name is pronounced in his country and that's how his parents call him. Having to call him differently is offensive and unpolite unless you didn't know of course. But once you know is not pronounced as designed to be and you continue to do so is not cool. It's actually disrespectful. Chris, I enjoy your videos and I think you are doing a fantastic job but I completely disagree on this one. A true Klim fan like myself would definitely apreciate if the name is pronounced as intended by its maker.
Fantastic lesson 😂
Chris, I'm an American and I agree, you are pronouncing it correctly.
god…I do so very much love the Brits because of their doctrinaire pronunciations of Proper Nouns: Maaazder (for Mahzduh) when referring to the Japanese car company. NatchOwes when snacking in a pub serving Mexican party food. Barrick when saying a recent President’s given name. And let’s not forget the Limey removal of “I” from Medicine followed by insertion of an “I” into Aluminum! YowZuh, BowZuh ! There will always be a Britain!
Disagreements are the fuel of parimutuel betting ! My horse will be faster than your horse (or greyhound or carrier pigeon).
Klim can pronounce their Company Name as ChuchANuffSki if that suits them ! Pronunciation is the particular province of the Company’s Owners ! And Chris remains a good guy !
KLIM, that will learn them ;))
Finaly someone calls out our colonial cousins on the way they mangle our wonderful language. Keep up the good work. Payback for the years I was foxed by something called al-ooom-min-num.
And Med-Sin. And Barrick Obama.
And it is green beans
Any chance of doing a review comparison with the Rukka Saana one piece?
In all honesty, we don’t think a comparison with the Saana is appropriate. We took the idea of a one-piece to Rukka about four years ago. They sent us a prototype to test a year later; and we had to tell them that we would not market it unless they made significant changes to the design. The first problem was that it was not laminated, meaning that it wetted out in heavy rain. This meant that, if commuting, there was a possibility that the suit would still be damp on the ride home. We found that the routing of the zip caused water ingress. The suit has no venting. And, crucially, it was nowhere near as easy as the Hardanger to get in and out of. We were not fans. We are still not fans, and we simply do not believe that it can credibly be compared to the Hardanger.
ML.
@@motolegends2606 Interesting, thanks for the reply
I had a Sanaa until recently. It is a superb bit of kit. However...you’re right, when it rained heavily I had an uncomfortably damp bum all day. Not overly pleasant. To be fair, that only happened once in a year of daily commuting and it was torrential rain for 5hours, so in normal weather in the uk I wouldn’t let that put you off. Also it was a pain to get into especially in the rain with sidi boots on. There was no way to get into it without laying it out on the floor first. I always sought out multilevel car parks and that solved that one. Not ideal though. In summer unbearably hot. Brilliant in winter. Thanks for the review, I may get the Klim next time
@@hebehall Yeah it's a similar experience to get into with the new Klim 3 zipper design, that being said the venting on it is amazing and makes it's incredibly versatile for those days where it's hot but might rain etc. I have some Sidi ST boots and it would be nearly impossible to get into the suit with those.
Did you sell it or have a spill?
It's "MILK" backwards
HAHAHAHAHAHAHA KLIM was a powdered milk, growing up. But yeah, it's Klim for me and not Klime
£1390 holy shoot
It's klāìm, not klìm
BRITISH English is to correct way!
Kl eye mmm ! Try calling the company and see how they answer the phone… good review
Stand out review, by Pennsylvania standards. Your pronunciation lesson can only help the language usage at corporate HQ @ Rigby, Idaho (jk). I learned phonics in the potato state, and it is definitely Klim, not climb. But whatever, they're going to start to argue that they are the Gem state and "climb" beats "Klim" and wah, wahh, wahh.
Right out of the gate your review acknowledges you are not that kind of dude: "We don't sell one-piece leather motorcycle suits, we're not that kind of company. "
Ok, Roll on then, I'm at the right place.
Spot on content regarding fit, application, seasonal use (all), excessive (?14?) venting, lack of updates to the Aerostitch model and updates of sizing length to the Hardanger... I watched this for 10 minutes, and clicked buy. Looking forward to more national touring, the west, green-laning some BDR routes, and general razzing. Thank you lads for mutually fine work. (I think Shawn wins the race if you didn't have a 30 year head start on practice and treachery).
I am not sophisticated enough to Apprehend the Allusions in this Comment! Oh, well.
@@quidestnunc9238 haha. IDK if sophisticated it but maybe I made esoteric references because I was excited and know a little too much about my hobby lol.
Danger, pronounced danger, not dang her.
It's a Norwegian word pronounced exactly as I pronounced it. As indeed do the boys from Klim. ML
USA, USA, USA!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! LOL
Lol your unreasonable refusal to use the correct pronunciation makes me laugh every time.
When Americans tell you it’s pronounced with an invisible letter “e” you do it !! Get over that old British Empire attitude, I love your channel but I also know that some of you brits arrogance to deliberately mispronounce things as you see fit, let’s face it two hundred years ago you spoke just like us(some of us)
Twenty-Seven years after the Victory at Yorktown, Virginia, the British sailed up the Chesapeake Bay then burned down the District of Columbia’s significant buildings ! Sore losers ? You decide ! But who doesn’t love a dessert named “Spotted Duck.”
Spotted Dick, auto-correct!
Seems a stupid idea making light coloured motorcycle clothing ,a proper biker will have it filthy rotten dirty in five minutes .These are for posh boy bikers who never get full of grease grimy or oily & stay in hotels & glam camp .
Or maybe you’re just dirty
Yep, that is us Affluent Americans (polishing out Toys For Boys). You Brits actually ride motorbikes to run errands, commute and travel places that are far away. We Wusses on the West Side of the Pond drive Teslas, I.C.E. Pickups and (hybrid) Wranglers to run errands, commute and travel long distances (unfortunately).