Riding Steep & Scary Sections On A Mountain Bike | MTB Skills
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- Опубликовано: 22 июл 2024
- Mountains can get quite steep, and sometimes we need to ride down them. Neil has been out Squamish riding some steep and scary sections to help show you how it's done 🤘
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How steep is too steep? 🏔
The price of the new bike i want
Jordie-Lunn-steep!!!
Vertical
Eh about a 90° angle and it starts to get a little on the steep side... only a little though.
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"if you can't visualize yourself doing it, you probably can't do it" + "you don't always have to do it" = fantastic advice.
Defenitely aplliable on almost everything. Really smart advice
Especially on local trails
I agree sometimes it can be right, but had I followed the first portion of that I would never be even close to where I am now.
Second part though is very very important !
0:02 Neil:"This is how to deal with super steep and super scary downhills" Picks up the bike and walks away.
Draw the curtains, end of episode ha ha ha
Why did you post the same comment twice???
@@darkviper6634 sometimes the page might freeze and when you refresh it posts twice
What was that you said about watching less YT earlier..?
Somtimes is wiser to realize that you don't have enough skill and experience to ride such steep stuff and is better to walk it away. Nothing shameful about it.
@@darkviper6634 probably because this video has been uploaded twice?
So thats how I do that. I usually just hit the front brakes and wake up at the bottom.
😳 Not the best idea!
Wow you wake up I usually don’t
That’s. What happened to me on my first time dropping in bcause I was too scared lmao.
i used to take the weight back (bum back) advise, and misunderstand it , and i crash because my front became too light.
but when Lee McCormack talked about the row/anti row concept, i learn to actually go into a low attack position and push the bars into the drop..... wow that changed the game for me
"if you can't visualize yourself doing it, that means you probably can't do it" - that's some wisdom right there! (for real, not being sarcastic)
"Ride the trail, not just the obstacle"
Love it when GMBN uploads!
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I had a big accident last weekend and the answer to avoid it was in this video ... Try to progress slow, ut takes time!! Can't wait to start again, regards from Colombia, great channel
surely front braking is paramount on slabs , find it much easier to control speed using the grip of the front rather than the back which always seem to wants to break away or skid
Neil Tilley yeah not what I heard about Squamish slab braking. Go the front brake I thinn
Definitely. Bend your elbows, get torso low, knees in front of ankles, then slide back to just back of neutral as you descend. Getting over your rear tire with arms straight is very bad. You have no control of front tire, and nowhere else to go with your arms fully extended. You should use 80+% front brake all the way down on slabs. You do NOT want to overbrake the rear and have it slide out.
He says to modulate the front and use back as an anchor. Aimed at beginners to stop them going over the bars. Also it's advice for riding steep stuff, not specifically squamish
You guys make very informative and fun videos, really helping me out thanks alot!
As someone who rides flat suburban roads...but LOVES GCN and GMBN...this was really GREAT! (Like watching cooking shows...but not actually cooking).
I learned as a kid to do this with stairs at first. It build up confidence and now I just send it most of the time without thinking too much (unless there's a crazy drop)
Great video, thank you!
Getting off the bike and looking or even walking the trail and visualizing not only how to tackle the obstacles but also visualizing the speed required is the key. Understanding that all advanced riding is simply scaling up basic techniques and skills.
I just want to ride this trails. They have been on my LIST for yearsssss!! Good video :)
Great video
Thanks for the tips and tricks 😁🙏🏻
I liked that you explained about keeping your center of gravity and not just the usual weight behind the saddle. Found myself on my arse a few times before I figured it out all those many years ago. No one seems to understand and explain it to new riders. Nicely done. Big thumbs up.
Right! The point is not to just 'move to the back of the bike', but to keep your center of gravity [your hips] above the bottom bracket at all times. So, really you're letting the bike rotate under you as you stay above the bb, which you can do by 'rowing' the handlebars as the trail undulates.
That's actually part of the reason I don't watch gmbn much now. For a long time they just repeated the cues without proper explanations, and when channels like Kyle and April, Roxy's ride & inspire, and others popped up with thorough explanations, skills started clicking for me. So I am glad to see slightly more in depth tutorials here now.
I never concentrate on heels down, going to try it in Sedona next week. Thannks!
Very nice vid guys and so informative thanks
Great lesson from the don 🤙🏻
You forgot the stoppie method! By far the most fun way down a steep rock, and also the steeziest.
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Thank you 🙏
nice guys finish last just remember. also much love from Alberta the province over from BC the one everyone forgets about that has second most trails in Canada
Great info, how to see your line and visually see the path I need to follow, all of the above. Position, balance, line choices. Pace as well. Look before I ride through Thanks for all the info.
Great video
Try singing while riding, it keeps you from holding your breath 😎
David Ronnemo I’ve seen this a few times now people saying it’s making them faster by not over thinking
I got distracted and crashed by doing that haha
Like Paul the Punter :)
I just „comment“ my descents for myself sometimes, really helps with confidence an keeping your head on the trail in my opinion
Advice given to Paul the Punter by Tracey Hannah!
Damn. Dat some really sweet terrain.
When Neil says i'm not feeling up to it and takes the easier route you know that's got to be steep
Great video Neil and #GMBN
Riding/practising every stairway you can find in your life is also good practice. Learn to roll them slow and also practice dismounting midroll.
Very good
I entered a race a long way away from home and that had a mega steep section on the track so I had to do it but steep stuff are much easier than they look
Slow it completely down as well. I did a steep drop n I virtually came to a stand still whilst on the bike less movement more control.-confidence-control-commitment all the way!
I find a bit of adrenaline helps, ie take one look, pick your line, even mark the entry, take the bike back at least 20 meters so you have settled on the bike and the saddle is down, heels are down, finger covering brake and then just squat as Neil said. Roll downs are as easy as it gets once you convince your brain haha
Can you do a video on how to properly ride rough trails on a hard tail. Like using your legs as back suspension because I'm not sure if I am doing enough to not damage my back Tyre.
I might have needed that video before getting ejected after a steep rock roll and obliterating my wrist. I’m still alive and will ride next year. It’s ok to not do it if you’re not 100% sure you’ll clear it. Stay safe!
Love the video need exiting help though.. I have yet to find any video on how to manage the compression at the end. It could have been a longer steep descent I did, ya me, but it immediately went up at the bottom like a V. So stomach meets handlebars. Advice on how not to bruise the stomach? And maybe OTB?
Now imagine, guys, if it looks really (I mean - REALLY) steep on video, how that would feel in real life. If I met such stones on local trails, I would never ever think about riding it
Just ride what you feel comfortable with and be confident in your abilities. 👍
🤙 SQUAMPTON TOWN 😍
My old music teacher said people often forget to breath on tough sections. Practicing the section and planning breath takes. He also coached football.
#Comments.. The Don Rocks!🤘🏼
This reminds me of 'just roll it'
Tip: buy a good pair of hiking shoes, after that, it becomes really easy to walk down the steep parts. xD
I thought I recognized the trails. Hope you had a blast on our slab trails! In the dry though our granite is grippier than even tarmac. Try riding some faces on Cypress mountain in North Vancouver (Slippery Canoe comes to mind) if you really want to pucker up :)
So many great trails there! 🤘
Rule 1 when approaching near vertical, marble like slabs that are wet, for the first time, bring spare underwear
inspired
Awesome! 🤘
Badass bikes
that section of Entrails - Alice Lake area
Great tips. While you're in the area, come visit us in Nelson, BC :)
I have gotten a bit less timid.. but super steep stuff isn't really my thing.. I'll keep trying to progress.. but man steep stuff is scary scary ..
Any suggestions on a single speed mountain bike
And arms bent! Its key arms bent, and obviously urs were... plus never have ur weight right back, as it leads to arms straight and loss.of control/no weight on front wheel which can wash out or skid. Just 'Weight back' is not the best advice as => locked arms.
Best advice I heard from mbuk is crouch down into bike, legs and arms bent, so 'ROOM TO REACT' as front wheel drops away (doesnt yank u with it and otb)
The advice of getting your hips back got me smiling, it's what is tell by anyone who doesnt know what he is saying. As a result you see number of people on the track getting their ass above their rear wheel anytime they see someting they think is steep (it's really relative of people experience and confidence).
If you want a thing to refer to, it should be this one ; if you open your hands right now, would you fall on your back ? If so, your body is too far back, you have no weight on your front wheel, so less control over your trajectory and speed.
Good advices by MBUK!
Also in mbr summer edition... neil is showing it well, providing u already understand it, but it could be easily misunderstood by those learning. Mbr exaggerate the other way saying 'do u just keep ur weight back? In a nutshell. NO. Dont. EVER.'
As bike rolls lip, and changes angle, keeping ur heels down and weight in ur heels means it FEELS like the weights back and over rear wheel, but really it's in ur heels (and hands) still but the bike has pivoted.
The point re 'if u took ur hands off wud u fall onto rear tyre' is v good mind approach to have.
You just uploaded this a day to early... Today I went to a bikepark and had to chicken quite a lot because I didn't know what to do with steep
Hope this helps you for next time Simon! 👍
I wish i have the same bike as yours
When you see another rider laying at the bottom!🤣🤣🤣
Im still trying ti get over this one section on a trail called gnarnia, its super steep and off camber and then it goes into a super steep drop and a turn right at the bottom, theres no grip at all cuz its soft dirt and so steep
hey gmbn!
Hey Alex 👊
NIce video !! What bike is that ?
At 3:20 how did you stay ‘on’ the rock and roll down instead of the manual/roll off it? I come across lots of those features and don’t know how to do them - thanks
The DON!
I'm a beginner mountain biker and don't have that much experience with steeps so before I ride on any trails, I tried going down stairs. I could do the small staircases, about five to six steps but there was a larger one that I just couldn't get the guts to do. I am fourteen and I'm going on a trail tomorrow and I don't know if there would be any stuff like that. Is there a special way to overcome this fear of steep drops? Like I was sure I could do it I just couldn't bring myself to it.
As Neil said, the terrain in Squamish is unlike anywhere else. Would any Squamites care to weigh in on his advice? For example, I've definitely heard that you want to control your speed on a slab with the front brake (carefully), not the rear.
I ride Squamish often. Front brake is absolutely the most important for slabs in terms of speed control. Rear brake you feather (avoid locking or you will slide sideways). You are really only using the rear to take some work off the front, it is doing 90% or more of the work on slabs which is also when having your weight centred on the bike and not too far back is critical. Weight back on slabs = losing the front wheel = bad time.
I’m very new to MTB but “if you can’t visualize yourself doing it, you probably can’t do it” sounds so right from my experience in skiing.
But how do we improve from there?
Just find something easier that has similar characteristics + practice, practice, practice :) For me personally it also helps to just listen to my head. If I enter a gnarly section and my head says instantly "NO" i just don´t do it. I often clear it the next time then. This can also save you from crashes ;)
Applicable to hardtails?
Can you do it with a hard tail
I learned to ride down steep parts with no brakes
I remember my first drop it was sketcy but pass
The first trial
hows the nukeproof?
Look at you exit. Go as fast you think you can get away with. You want those wheels spinning and keeping up upright and the momentum not to stall on any rocks and roots and you don’t want to be on the chute long enough to start sliding out of control. Pull up on your exit because if it’s steep there’s probably a tight transition.
Could you maybe make a video of how to jump a hardtail and not damaging your rear wheel
Don't come up short and case, don't go to far to flat and dint land sideways that's about it. Advise from someone who has cracked 2 hardtail frames and destroyed 2 back wheels
I wouldn’t follow Neil’s advice on steep long slabs. Relying on rear wheel gets you in trouble. Your rear wheel will lock and skid trying to get the speed under control. Weigh your front wheel and don’t be afraid to use your front brake.
I get squirrely riding off a curb and they're riding off mountains.
You know its rough when it looks steep on camera at 0:50
That trail is leap of absence
Leave of Absence? Made it down non-stop in the BC Bike race for the first time last week (and met Rob one of the trail builders for it!)
What bike is that Neil? looks great
It's his Nukeproof Mega 👍
French line or Sam Hill line,that's all you need to know 👍
Wait where's the canyon plug... ?
1:34 cameraman :)
I have such a weird clicking on my bike when I'm riding in the fork or something but I'm not sure what it is or why
It could be the headset isn't loose or worn but also check the fork.
Do you have an air fork or a coil. It's probably not the fork but
@@DavidGamero I have a air fork (Rock shox yari rc) or something like that
@@gmbn Ok thanks👍
Check the brake/caliper bolts and that the stem/headset is tightened down.
can you put kashima stantions on rock shox?
No this isn't compatible Grant.
Fox is 36mm and RockShox is 35mm. Even if they were the same, it still wouldn't fit.
Grant Karczewski You should be relegated to a rigid mtb for that Q
Those trees are the real problem, they have a Tendency to jump out in front of a rider!
The last steep descent i 've done was full of dog poo and this is my only fear riding steep descents :^)
Hi
I thought Yoann Barelli said front braking is more vital in steep stuffs? 😜
If you want your teeth knocking out
Jacques Liw It can be, depends on the situation and surfaces
sometimes even pro riders lose their confidence when face a very steep high descent.
can i get into racing in the winter.
I did my first race in last winter and loved it however it’s scary
I use a rope and clampons...
Make sure that if you're practicing downhill like this you don't have pushy friends that'll get mad at you for not doing it. If you do, make sure they're same level or worse than you at MTB so they can't talk if you say "demonstrate it, come on."
Have you ever whipped out the bear spray while filming, but then realised it was a false alarm?
whoaaaa I'm really early
No issues with assembly for me ruclips.net/user/postUgkxHL1v1R3NE5x4KiYfyt8dnQmyNYz7qi5L but I could see where some might benefit from using an experienced bike assembler/mechanic. I'm an older rider starting back after a 10 year break. This bike exceeds my capabilities and has been easy to get comfortable riding. I'm mostly on easy trails with almost no street riding and have not been disappointed with the performance of the bike. My fitness level is far below what I previously rode with and because of that the mileage is going on the bike slowly. While I'm losing weight slowly, the bike seems to tolerate my 220 pounds just fine. The bike has been used by several family members ranging from 5'5" - 5'9".
Step 1 buy a 7k DH bike
Done👍👍👍
Is it just me or does his handle bar look super off center during that outro?
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I never regret not trying something.
I’d much rather have 10 days of fun riding than 1 day of scary riding and a huge fall that leaves me broken for 6 months and off a bike.
(Based on a true story)
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yes blake
You mean Neil?
@@sameerjg nah mate blake 🤘
I think you mean Neil..
@@th_js Blakey! 👊👊
@@dominicmuller1540 Please explain
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Lastly, if it's your first time riding on this types of trails...bring extra undies.