I made a Moore and Wright scribing block clone when I was a fitter and turner apprentice in 1957, I still have it. I use it occasionally but it needs a bit of work to get it looking really nice.
I LITERALLY Just finished repairing my 407 Surface Gauge! I was just looking online to see how it goes together and found your video. I have two rods and extra clamps and bits so I was getting confused with which parts fit where. Luckily, mine wasn't as bad as yours so I didn't need to make any replacement parts or surface grind it. It was my neighbour's before he passed away and his wife gave it to me. He was a farmer and surprisingly kept his tools in good condition. All I had to remove was some surface rust and the black oxide (side note; tiny bottles of tool blue/black are too small. I couldn't get anything large enough to dunk parts in so I spent several hours and dozens of q-tips re-blackening my tool). Also, I used light grease to lubricate it since that's what it seemed to have been used last.
Glad to hear that another old tool is being looked after. I'm sure it will serve you well. Regarding the blacking, if you watch my blacking video there is a discount available on the kits I use. Only for people in the UK though i'm afraid. Thanks for watching.
Very nice job indeed. I know the concentricity on the threaded part you made wasn't a big deal. However, I made a similar part that was a locking nut with a slit in it for my mill. It was in my 3 jaw, HBM one like yours. I needed to mill the slit with a slitting saw then do another turning op. So I took the chuck off the lathe and clamped to to the mill table, then put it back on with the camlock studs in the original orientation. I really like seeing old tools like that given a new lease of life. They were made to be used and taken care of, so it's good when that happens. Thanks.
Thanks Carl, glad you enjoyed it. Have you been shopping at RDG as well then? I could do with redoing the back plate for my 3 jaw as the run out is a bit too much I think it's about 0.15mm if I remember correctly. I was a bit sloppy when I made the register ring and it's a bit of a baggy fit. I tend to swap out for the collet chuck when i'm really bothered about concentricity. For this job I think the only op to do after the mill was to part off so your right it wasn't important for that. I always forget that taking the chuck off is an option so thanks for the reminder, that might save me at some point. 👍
@@Handmadeextreme That's interesting. My remark about the concentricity wasn't meant as a criticism by the way. It was just that what you did in the video reminded me of what I did. I got a bigger 3 jaw from RDG like you said, because they do them with a camlock fitting already mounted. The original Pratt Burnerd 3 jaw that came with the lathe was too small for some of the things I wanted to do. Looking forward to your next video.
No problem I figured that was where you were going👍. Even if it was; any constructive criticism is always welcome here as that's how we learn new things. I'm quite fond of RDG they always seem to get things turned round quick and they have good prices. Not really industrial kit but plenty good enough for the home shop and light business work. I'm working on the next one at the moment. I might have broke a bit on the Bridgeport so i'm doing a bit of an emergency repair.
I'd like to suggest you describe the history and use of the tool within the video. There are a lot of semi silent videos of disassemble, polish, reassemble tools.
Thanks, glad you enjoyed it. We can buy it here in the uk and we have prty strict chemical sales rules over here so i'd imagine it's available world wide. You might find it, or something similar, by searching > Black Phosphate, Chemical Blacking, Cold blue or Gun Blue. Hope that helps. Thanks for watching.
Have you any idea how old yours is? I just had to replace a plated zinc casting on my Dads which he bought in 1943, clearly a different design of the same part number.
You didn't actually explain what that little strange washer like disc screwed into the bottom of the spindle is for. Looks like a marking wheel of sorts like that which one might find in a glass cutter/scriber.
Thanks for the reply. Loving the videos as always. What is next in the pipeline? I’m hoping something that can become black and have something knurled on it??
I've had to do an emergency repair on the Bridgeport so i'll be covering that. No blacking in that one. I'm thinking of doing a tutorial on the whole blacking process so people can see exactly how it works. It's super easy.
I made a Moore and Wright scribing block clone when I was a fitter and turner apprentice in 1957, I still have it. I use it occasionally but it needs a bit of work to get it looking really nice.
I'd have never guessed that there were so many individual parts to this. Well done.
Great job. Nicely made video and strangely soothing to watch!
Thanks Emma. Glad you enjoyed it. 👍
I LITERALLY Just finished repairing my 407 Surface Gauge! I was just looking online to see how it goes together and found your video. I have two rods and extra clamps and bits so I was getting confused with which parts fit where.
Luckily, mine wasn't as bad as yours so I didn't need to make any replacement parts or surface grind it. It was my neighbour's before he passed away and his wife gave it to me. He was a farmer and surprisingly kept his tools in good condition. All I had to remove was some surface rust and the black oxide (side note; tiny bottles of tool blue/black are too small. I couldn't get anything large enough to dunk parts in so I spent several hours and dozens of q-tips re-blackening my tool). Also, I used light grease to lubricate it since that's what it seemed to have been used last.
Glad to hear that another old tool is being looked after. I'm sure it will serve you well. Regarding the blacking, if you watch my blacking video there is a discount available on the kits I use. Only for people in the UK though i'm afraid. Thanks for watching.
The Surface Gauge is already earning it's keep in the workshop. I hope you enjoy the video. Thanks for watching.
Superb restoration highly enjoyable to watch many thanks for sharing 😊
Thanks very much. Glad you enjoyed it and your welcome. 👍
Very nice job indeed. I know the concentricity on the threaded part you made wasn't a big deal. However, I made a similar part that was a locking nut with a slit in it for my mill. It was in my 3 jaw, HBM one like yours. I needed to mill the slit with a slitting saw then do another turning op. So I took the chuck off the lathe and clamped to to the mill table, then put it back on with the camlock studs in the original orientation.
I really like seeing old tools like that given a new lease of life. They were made to be used and taken care of, so it's good when that happens. Thanks.
Thanks Carl, glad you enjoyed it.
Have you been shopping at RDG as well then?
I could do with redoing the back plate for my 3 jaw as the run out is a bit too much I think it's about 0.15mm if I remember correctly. I was a bit sloppy when I made the register ring and it's a bit of a baggy fit.
I tend to swap out for the collet chuck when i'm really bothered about concentricity. For this job I think the only op to do after the mill was to part off so your right it wasn't important for that. I always forget that taking the chuck off is an option so thanks for the reminder, that might save me at some point. 👍
@@Handmadeextreme That's interesting. My remark about the concentricity wasn't meant as a criticism by the way. It was just that what you did in the video reminded me of what I did. I got a bigger 3 jaw from RDG like you said, because they do them with a camlock fitting already mounted. The original Pratt Burnerd 3 jaw that came with the lathe was too small for some of the things I wanted to do. Looking forward to your next video.
No problem I figured that was where you were going👍. Even if it was; any constructive criticism is always welcome here as that's how we learn new things. I'm quite fond of RDG they always seem to get things turned round quick and they have good prices. Not really industrial kit but plenty good enough for the home shop and light business work.
I'm working on the next one at the moment. I might have broke a bit on the Bridgeport so i'm doing a bit of an emergency repair.
Great restoration of and essential bit of kit.
Thanks, glad you enjoyed it. It's already earning it's keep. 👍
Nice job & video. I am waiting to see it in action :D
Thanks very much. I'm glad you enjoyed it. It's already earning its keep 👍👍
Lovely job mate, should see you out, 😁
Al.
Hi Al,
I hope so haha 😂
Glad you enjoyed it.
Nice job, when you doing the rotary table?🙂
Nicely done! Although if you gave it to me I'd spend another 2 hours wiping it dry with paper towers ;)
I'd like to suggest you describe the history and use of the tool within the video. There are a lot of semi silent videos of disassemble, polish, reassemble tools.
Great idea. I'll try and integrate a bit more information in future videos.
Thanks for watching.
Great restoration! Is the black phosphate product available generally? I recently moved to Costa Rica and rust is a significant issue.
Thanks, glad you enjoyed it.
We can buy it here in the uk and we have prty strict chemical sales rules over here so i'd imagine it's available world wide. You might find it, or something similar, by searching > Black Phosphate, Chemical Blacking, Cold blue or Gun Blue.
Hope that helps.
Thanks for watching.
Have you any idea how old yours is? I just had to replace a plated zinc casting on my Dads which he bought in 1943, clearly a different design of the same part number.
not sure what it does, but it look a lot better now. ;)
Haha. It's for holding a measuring instrument or for scribing lines. Glad you enjoyed it and thinks for watching. 👍👍👍
What exactly is that part your screwed to the bottom of the mast? Mine is missing it.
You didn't actually explain what that little strange washer like disc screwed into the bottom of the spindle is for. Looks like a marking wheel of sorts like that which one might find in a glass cutter/scriber.
Another great video!!
What oil did you use when reassembling??
Oh and once again, love true lathe...
Hi Josh,
Thanks very much, glad you enjoyed it.
The oil is just a general purpose light machine oil. 👍😀
Thanks for the reply.
Loving the videos as always.
What is next in the pipeline? I’m hoping something that can become black and have something knurled on it??
I've had to do an emergency repair on the Bridgeport so i'll be covering that. No blacking in that one. I'm thinking of doing a tutorial on the whole blacking process so people can see exactly how it works. It's super easy.
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Thanks.