"Every 50 years, in what was called the Year Of Jubilee, all debts were wiped out." It is important to note that there is no record of this ever occurring, either in the Bible, or in ancient Jewish writings. And foreign slaves were not included in the emancipation anyway.
@@cygnusustus And that's evidence that the *_Bible_* supported Slavery, how? _(I can see how that would make Ancient Israelites, supportive of Slavery..._ _or at least failing to follow God's Will on the matter._ But that's literally what most people will tell you is the theme of the Old Testament history.)
@@Paulthored "And that's evidence that the Bible supported Slavery, how? " Did I say that was evidence that the Bible supports slavery, child? Or was I responding to another factually incorrect assertion in the video?
@@cygnusustus idk. You keep on mocking me for asking questions, and my making efforts to debate you on this subject. You literally told me to go looking at your other comments. So... Here. I. Am.
@@Paulthored No, I'm mocking you for being too lazy to read answers I've already provided. "So... Here. I. Am." Great. So, do you have any refutations for anything I said in this comment? I literally have started 10 comment threads in this video. You are welcome to try contesting any of them.
"Not treat slaves like property" Exodus 21:20-21 is: "20 “Anyone who beats their male or female slave with a rod must be punished if the slave dies as a direct result, 21 but they are not to be punished if the slave recovers after a day or two, since the slave is their PROPERTY."
I notice you didn't quote Leviticus 25:44-46 in your video. Gee. I wonder why? Could it be because is explicitly endorses and condones chattel slavery? "Both thy bondmen, and thy bondmaids, which thou shalt have, shall be of the heathen that are round about you; of them shall ye buy bondmen and bondmaids. Moreover of the children of the strangers that do sojourn among you, of them shall ye buy, and of their families that are with you, which they begat in your land: and they shall be your possession. And ye shall take them as an inheritance for your children after you, to inherit them for a possession; they shall be your bondmen for ever: but over your brethren the children of Israel, ye shall not rule one over another with rigour."
"Israel was not permitted [to take slaves after war]." Flat-out lie. Deuteronomy 20: 10-14. "When thou comest nigh unto a city to fight against it, then proclaim peace unto it. And it shall be, if it make thee answer of peace, and open unto thee, then it shall be, that all the people that is found therein shall be tributaries unto thee, and they shall serve thee. And if it will make no peace with thee, but will make war against thee, then thou shalt besiege it: And when the Lord thy God hath delivered it into thine hands, thou shalt smite every male thereof with the edge of the sword: But the women, and the little ones, and the cattle, and all that is in the city, even all the spoil thereof, shalt thou take unto thyself; and thou shalt eat the spoil of thine enemies, which the Lord thy God hath given thee." If you have to lie to protect your beliefs, it is time to get new beliefs.
That's a hell of a choice slavery or death even Genghis Khan offered a better exchange. become part of the empire, keep your laws, religion, traditions bust pay taxes and provide a levy. If they refused then everyone died but still a better deal then the bible offers.
@@Paulthored Oh....so you do know what a lie is? Then perhaps you could look at my prior posts in this thread, which list and debunk several of his lies. There's a good boy.
"Israelite servitude was not rated in racism" Flat-out lie. The laws for Hebrew indentured servants were distinct from the laws for foreign chattel slaves. Leviticus 25 explicitly states that foreign slaves could be treated more harshly than Hebrew slaves. If you have to lie to protect your beliefs, it is time to get new beliefs.
@@The_Other_Ghost or she's both read the Bible, and took the time to understand the biblical context & contemporary Historical situation... Both in regards to the Bible, and the vast Prevalence of Worldwide Slavery up until these past few centuries... where it's been driven mostly underground.
@@The_Other_Ghost I'm kinda at a loss as to what exactly you mean by that question. The Bible is a collection of books spanning centuries _(at least 15)._ Multiple types of Slavery are Mentioned, Described, and/or encountered during the course of the Narratives. So I'm uncertain about what would satisfy your question. Also... may I enquire about the purpose behind your question? _(Ie:-- what is the questions goal?)_
"The slavery talked about in the Bible was more like servitude." This is a lie. Indentured servitude applied only to (male) Hebrew slaves. Under Mosaic law, foreign slaves were chattel slaves. They could be bought, sold, separated from their families, beaten, raped, killed, kept for life, and passed down as inherited property. Every reference to foreign slaves in the Bible is to deny them rights and protections afforded to Hebrew slaves. The treatment of foreign slaves was every bit was bad, or worse, than slavery in the Antebellum south. If you have to lie to protect your beliefs, it is time to get new beliefs.
@@karlwhite2733 Liar. Chattel slavery is defined as "the enslaving and owning of human beings and their offspring as property, able to be bought, sold, and forced to work. Another definition is: "The condition in which one person is owned as property by another and is under the owner's control, especially in involuntary servitude." Leviticus 25 explicitly describes and condones chattel slavery. "44 Both thy bondmen, and thy bondmaids, which thou shalt have, shall be of the heathen that are round about you; of them shall ye buy bondmen and bondmaids. 45 Moreover of the children of the strangers that do sojourn among you, of them shall ye buy, and of their families that are with you, which they begat in your land: and they shall be your possession. 46 And ye shall take them as an inheritance for your children after you, to inherit them for a possession; they shall be your bondmen for ever: but over your brethren the children of Israel, ye shall not rule one over another with rigour." Anything else, liar?
@@cygnusustus say that these verses are totally like "chattel/body" Slavery as described by your definition, for the sake of argument. Is that context Approving of same Slavery? _In _*_Leviticus,_*_ which was largely akin to a foundational law document, akin to the USA's Constitution?_
" Slaves, obey your earthly masters with respect and fear, and with sincerity of heart, just as you would obey Christ." Ephesians 6:5. If that is not endorsing slavery, then what is?
@@ariellalima7229 _I forget the exact context of the passage..._ But have you considered that this passage is merely addressing Christians who happen to find themselves Enslaved? As a personal message For the Believers in such situations?
"Slaves were treated as people, not property." This is a lie. Foreign slaves were chattel property. There were no laws protecting them. Every verse that specifically references foreign slaves does so in order to deny them protections granted to Hebrew indentures servants. Exodus 21 states that Hebrew indentures servants could be beaten nearly to death with no repercussion, and then Leviticus 25 states that foreign slaves could be treated even more harshly.
"Christian ended the slave trade." This is a lie. SOME of the people that ended the slave trade were Christians, perhaps even most, but most of the people opposing abolition were also Christians. The fact is that those in favor of slavery could quote a plethora of Bible verse to support their position, while those Christians opposing slavery had to borrow from Humanist morality in order to do so. If you have to lie to defend your beliefs, it is time to get new beliefs.
Even when compared with the Contemporary Slavery, biblical slavery that was permitted by Law(God) during the time of the Jewish Nation(s)... including the New Testament era... Was universally understood to be, as presented in this video. Temporary unless voluntarily extended, not to extend to families/beyond the individual, and supposed to be Humane at its worst. More like modern day Community Service or Internship, but for individual master's. Not something necessarily good, but allowed under the circumstances found in real life. Literally speaking? For Most, if not all, of the biblical history... this was the most "progressive" view on Slavery anywhere.
Title: _"Does the bible endorse slavery?"_ Yes. Yes, it does. It shows how to "care" for them. Which ones to can inherit. Which ones can go after some time, and which can't. How you can beat them almost to death. How to buy them. How to enslave them when you overrun a village. Yeah, a pretty moral document, that bible of yours...
@@Nai61a Indeed. All these Atheists & anti Christian commentators, saying vague generalizations about the Bible, like it proves that this video Lies about the Biblical Narratives on Slavery. It's like the Bible has been forcibly removed from public education or something.
@@endersdragon34 No. Both because it doesn't really work like that... despite what some self proclaimed "chrustians" seem to think. And because despite half these comments claiming that it's a Lie, no one has convinced someone who doesn't already agree with that assessment.
3: "Christians ended the slave trade" is disingenuous considering that the vast majority of anyone in a position to have influence to this end was Christian. It ignores that the people who opposed the end, violently, were also Christian, making Christian belief moot on the issue. If you look more closely it was only Christian sects informed by Enlightenment philosophers that led the movement in England and the US North. The evangelical denominations fought to keep slavery. 2: "Slaves are not property" is a flat out lie given the number of times that the Bible says the exact opposite. 1: "Biblical slavery was servitude" Duh, INVOLUNTARY servitude. That servants were also abused at that time does not lessen the fact that slaves had no choice about staying a slave except for Hebrew males. 0: the amount of truth in this video.
@@marcbman5821 Then why would Slave owners have edited a Slave edition Bible that was several undersized for a Bible... And yet still have African descent Slaves realize that it urges their Freedom?
y'know, its not the dark ages anymore. people freely have access to your holy book, and every single thing said in this video is wildly inaccurate. we're long past the point of you guys being able to blatantly lie and get away with it. the fact that you have to lie every 10 seconds in this video is a good demonstration of how you're aware of the issues, but will deceive others into thinking they don't exist. to me, that suggests that you don't truly believe any of it, and you're just manipulating those that do for an easy living. that's pathetic and disgusting.
@@sandycarr22 if by chattel slavery being regulated... You meant recognizing that it took place, and likelier than not would take place inside the Nation's of the Jew's... at Some point. _(having prohibitions against chattel Slavery, counts as regulation)_ Then yes. The Bible provides some regulation for that situation. I mean, would regulations regarding something present in literally every other contemporary nation/culture be sensible?
@@Paulthored owning people as property is disgusting. To make excuses and lies about it, is pathetic. But, the bible is 99.9% fictional anyway. Other than geographic locations and 3 possibly 4 people, it's all fake. Not to mention, all religions are based on dishonesty, misinformation, speculation, assumptions, ignorance and wishful thinking. Zero evidence, zero facts.
"Every 50 years, in what was called the Year Of Jubilee, all debts were wiped out."
It is important to note that there is no record of this ever occurring, either in the Bible, or in ancient Jewish writings. And foreign slaves were not included in the emancipation anyway.
And since the life expectancy was around 30 years back then, setting slaves free every 50 years wasn't very beneficial for the slaves.
@@cygnusustus And that's evidence that the *_Bible_* supported Slavery, how?
_(I can see how that would make Ancient Israelites, supportive of Slavery..._ _or at least failing to follow God's Will on the matter._ But that's literally what most people will tell you is the theme of the Old Testament history.)
@@Paulthored
"And that's evidence that the Bible supported Slavery, how? "
Did I say that was evidence that the Bible supports slavery, child? Or was I responding to another factually incorrect assertion in the video?
@@cygnusustus idk. You keep on mocking me for asking questions, and my making efforts to debate you on this subject.
You literally told me to go looking at your other comments.
So... Here. I. Am.
@@Paulthored
No, I'm mocking you for being too lazy to read answers I've already provided.
"So... Here. I. Am."
Great. So, do you have any refutations for anything I said in this comment? I literally have started 10 comment threads in this video. You are welcome to try contesting any of them.
"Not treat slaves like property"
Exodus 21:20-21 is: "20 “Anyone who beats their male or female slave with a rod must be punished if the slave dies as a direct result, 21 but they are not to be punished if the slave recovers after a day or two, since the slave is their PROPERTY."
I notice you didn't quote Leviticus 25:44-46 in your video. Gee. I wonder why? Could it be because is explicitly endorses and condones chattel slavery?
"Both thy bondmen, and thy bondmaids, which thou shalt have, shall be of the heathen that are round about you; of them shall ye buy bondmen and bondmaids. Moreover of the children of the strangers that do sojourn among you, of them shall ye buy, and of their families that are with you, which they begat in your land: and they shall be your possession.
And ye shall take them as an inheritance for your children after you, to inherit them for a possession; they shall be your bondmen for ever: but over your brethren the children of Israel, ye shall not rule one over another with rigour."
"Israel was not permitted [to take slaves after war]."
Flat-out lie.
Deuteronomy 20: 10-14.
"When thou comest nigh unto a city to fight against it, then proclaim peace unto it. And it shall be, if it make thee answer of peace, and open unto thee, then it shall be, that all the people that is found therein shall be tributaries unto thee, and they shall serve thee. And if it will make no peace with thee, but will make war against thee, then thou shalt besiege it: And when the Lord thy God hath delivered it into thine hands, thou shalt smite every male thereof with the edge of the sword: But the women, and the little ones, and the cattle, and all that is in the city, even all the spoil thereof, shalt thou take unto thyself; and thou shalt eat the spoil of thine enemies, which the Lord thy God hath given thee."
If you have to lie to protect your beliefs, it is time to get new beliefs.
That's a hell of a choice slavery or death even Genghis Khan offered a better exchange. become part of the empire, keep your laws, religion, traditions bust pay taxes and provide a levy. If they refused then everyone died but still a better deal then the bible offers.
The number of shameless lies in this video is astounding.
OMG, yes!
🤦♂️ lies? What do you mean by that??
@@Paulthored
Look the word up.
@@cygnusustus Why? It wouldn't help me understand why you're applying it to the video, nor how you came to that conclusion.
@@Paulthored
Oh....so you do know what a lie is?
Then perhaps you could look at my prior posts in this thread, which list and debunk several of his lies.
There's a good boy.
"Israelite servitude was not rated in racism"
Flat-out lie.
The laws for Hebrew indentured servants were distinct from the laws for foreign chattel slaves. Leviticus 25 explicitly states that foreign slaves could be treated more harshly than Hebrew slaves.
If you have to lie to protect your beliefs, it is time to get new beliefs.
This woman either:
A. hasn't read that much of the bible.
Or
B. Is just full of BS.
@@The_Other_Ghost or she's both read the Bible, and took the time to understand the biblical context & contemporary Historical situation...
Both in regards to the Bible, and the vast Prevalence of Worldwide Slavery up until these past few centuries... where it's been driven mostly underground.
@@Paulthored What is biblical slavery?
@@The_Other_Ghost I'm kinda at a loss as to what exactly you mean by that question.
The Bible is a collection of books spanning centuries _(at least 15)._
Multiple types of Slavery are Mentioned, Described, and/or encountered during the course of the Narratives.
So I'm uncertain about what would satisfy your question.
Also... may I enquire about the purpose behind your question? _(Ie:-- what is the questions goal?)_
@@Paulthored For an example: you can buy a slave and keep it for life?
"The slavery talked about in the Bible was more like servitude."
This is a lie. Indentured servitude applied only to (male) Hebrew slaves.
Under Mosaic law, foreign slaves were chattel slaves. They could be bought, sold, separated from their families, beaten, raped, killed, kept for life, and passed down as inherited property. Every reference to foreign slaves in the Bible is to deny them rights and protections afforded to Hebrew slaves. The treatment of foreign slaves was every bit was bad, or worse, than slavery in the Antebellum south.
If you have to lie to protect your beliefs, it is time to get new beliefs.
@@cygnusustus lie
@@karlwhite2733
Liar.
Chattel slavery is defined as "the enslaving and owning of human beings and their offspring as property, able to be bought, sold, and forced to work. Another definition is: "The condition in which one person is owned as property by another and is under the owner's control, especially in involuntary servitude."
Leviticus 25 explicitly describes and condones chattel slavery.
"44 Both thy bondmen, and thy bondmaids, which thou shalt have, shall be of the heathen that are round about you; of them shall ye buy bondmen and bondmaids.
45 Moreover of the children of the strangers that do sojourn among you, of them shall ye buy, and of their families that are with you, which they begat in your land: and they shall be your possession.
46 And ye shall take them as an inheritance for your children after you, to inherit them for a possession; they shall be your bondmen for ever: but over your brethren the children of Israel, ye shall not rule one over another with rigour."
Anything else, liar?
@@cygnusustus 1. The bible is fictional nonsense.
2. Owning people as tis disgusting.
@@cygnusustus say that these verses are totally like "chattel/body" Slavery as described by your definition, for the sake of argument.
Is that context Approving of same Slavery?
_In _*_Leviticus,_*_ which was largely akin to a foundational law document, akin to the USA's Constitution?_
@@Paulthored
Yes, in that context the Bible is not only approving of chattel slavery, but promoting it.
"The Hebrew word for slavery referred to something very different."
Lie, lie, lie....
@@cygnusustus I don't know Hebrew.
_So what's the Word then?_
" Slaves, obey your earthly masters with respect and fear, and with sincerity of heart, just as you would obey Christ." Ephesians 6:5. If that is not endorsing slavery, then what is?
@@ariellalima7229 _I forget the exact context of the passage..._
But have you considered that this passage is merely addressing Christians who happen to find themselves Enslaved?
As a personal message For the Believers in such situations?
The bible is fictional nonsense
"Slaves were treated as people, not property."
This is a lie. Foreign slaves were chattel property. There were no laws protecting them. Every verse that specifically references foreign slaves does so in order to deny them protections granted to Hebrew indentures servants.
Exodus 21 states that Hebrew indentures servants could be beaten nearly to death with no repercussion, and then Leviticus 25 states that foreign slaves could be treated even more harshly.
"Christian ended the slave trade."
This is a lie. SOME of the people that ended the slave trade were Christians, perhaps even most, but most of the people opposing abolition were also Christians.
The fact is that those in favor of slavery could quote a plethora of Bible verse to support their position, while those Christians opposing slavery had to borrow from Humanist morality in order to do so.
If you have to lie to defend your beliefs, it is time to get new beliefs.
Even when compared with the Contemporary Slavery, biblical slavery that was permitted by Law(God) during the time of the Jewish Nation(s)... including the New Testament era...
Was universally understood to be, as presented in this video.
Temporary unless voluntarily extended, not to extend to families/beyond the individual, and supposed to be Humane at its worst.
More like modern day Community Service or Internship, but for individual master's. Not something necessarily good, but allowed under the circumstances found in real life.
Literally speaking?
For Most, if not all, of the biblical history... this was the most "progressive" view on Slavery anywhere.
Title: _"Does the bible endorse slavery?"_ Yes. Yes, it does. It shows how to "care" for them. Which ones to can inherit. Which ones can go after some time, and which can't. How you can beat them almost to death. How to buy them. How to enslave them when you overrun a village. Yeah, a pretty moral document, that bible of yours...
@@edgarmatzinger9742 ...Biblical passages and context are necessary for those claims to be true.
@@Paulthored Context is necessary? Nonsense.
@@edgarmatzinger9742 what do you mean by that, in this situation?
Why do you lie?
Because that is what Christians do.
Keep viewers? No idea.
@@The_Other_Ghost probably
Because that's what apologists do.
@@RoninTF2011 Because the state of public education on the subject is so bad, that you honestly believe that it's a lie
Disgraceful, shameful dishonesty. Truly contemptible.
@@Nai61a Indeed. All these Atheists & anti Christian commentators, saying vague generalizations about the Bible, like it proves that this video Lies about the Biblical Narratives on Slavery.
It's like the Bible has been forcibly removed from public education or something.
Are you guys worried that you will burn in hell for all eternity for all this bearing false witness that you are doing?
@@endersdragon34 No.
Both because it doesn't really work like that... despite what some self proclaimed "chrustians" seem to think.
And because despite half these comments claiming that it's a Lie, no one has convinced someone who doesn't already agree with that assessment.
3: "Christians ended the slave trade" is disingenuous considering that the vast majority of anyone in a position to have influence to this end was Christian. It ignores that the people who opposed the end, violently, were also Christian, making Christian belief moot on the issue. If you look more closely it was only Christian sects informed by Enlightenment philosophers that led the movement in England and the US North. The evangelical denominations fought to keep slavery.
2: "Slaves are not property" is a flat out lie given the number of times that the Bible says the exact opposite.
1: "Biblical slavery was servitude" Duh, INVOLUNTARY servitude. That servants were also abused at that time does not lessen the fact that slaves had no choice about staying a slave except for Hebrew males.
0: the amount of truth in this video.
The answer is yes, the bible condones slavery.
@@marcbman5821 Then why would Slave owners have edited a Slave edition Bible that was several undersized for a Bible...
And yet still have African descent Slaves realize that it urges their Freedom?
y'know, its not the dark ages anymore. people freely have access to your holy book, and every single thing said in this video is wildly inaccurate. we're long past the point of you guys being able to blatantly lie and get away with it. the fact that you have to lie every 10 seconds in this video is a good demonstration of how you're aware of the issues, but will deceive others into thinking they don't exist. to me, that suggests that you don't truly believe any of it, and you're just manipulating those that do for an easy living. that's pathetic and disgusting.
@@JaredMcCloudTJW Where's these lies?
Could you even come up with a more inaccurate video than this? Soooo many passages ignored for your very clear agenda.
@@user-hp1uj8nz5s you mean passages describing how the Jew's failed in following these laws?
The bible regulates both chattel slavery and indentured servitude. Have you tried not lying for Jesus?
@@sandycarr22 if by chattel slavery being regulated...
You meant recognizing that it took place, and likelier than not would take place inside the Nation's of the Jew's... at Some point.
_(having prohibitions against chattel Slavery, counts as regulation)_
Then yes. The Bible provides some regulation for that situation.
I mean, would regulations regarding something present in literally every other contemporary nation/culture be sensible?
Look racist propaganda
@@karlwhite2733 do you think that this was Antisemitic somehow?
@@Paulthored owning people as property is disgusting. To make excuses and lies about it, is pathetic. But, the bible is 99.9% fictional anyway. Other than geographic locations and 3 possibly 4 people, it's all fake.
Not to mention, all religions are based on dishonesty, misinformation, speculation, assumptions, ignorance and wishful thinking. Zero evidence, zero facts.