The ROG Ally is a Buggy Mess (but i kinda love it)

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  • Опубликовано: 1 окт 2024

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  • @TakiUdon
    @TakiUdon  Год назад +150

    I'm currently daily driving this and will keep an eye out for further software updates for the full review!

    • @thomasbehning461
      @thomasbehning461 Год назад +4

      Thank you for the round trip!

    • @ezg8448
      @ezg8448 Год назад +2

      It's the cooling and screen that really sold me on this device.
      Even though this device is a bit slower than the other 7840U handhelds on indiegogo, FSR easily makes up for that difference for better usability.

    • @ZONAWOLF
      @ZONAWOLF Год назад +1

      How does this compare to the A1 Pro? The custom ally chip seems to cut cost and allows the 7840u to beat it.

    • @TakiUdon
      @TakiUdon  Год назад +5

      About the same. The section going over if this is custom or not has a benchmark that was done with the A1 Pro.

    • @ZONAWOLF
      @ZONAWOLF Год назад

      @Taki Udon Thanks. I'll go back over it. Overall for 800 vs the 700, would you recommend the A1 pro? Better yet, can you do a comparison video since they're very close is cost to performance?

  • @stevepetrovich1169
    @stevepetrovich1169 Год назад +93

    Thank you for testing a wide range of games! Other channels are testing mostly AAA games. Hope ASUS irons out some of these bugs before release

    • @radioactivebob1
      @radioactivebob1 Год назад +6

      Was my exact thought, i saw borderlands 3 and actually got excited it was included, and fallout 4.

    • @mechanicalmonk2020
      @mechanicalmonk2020 Год назад +5

      ​@@radioactivebob1 how the heck is BL3 not considered a AAA game?

    • @cheeeeezewizzz
      @cheeeeezewizzz Год назад +7

      @MechanicalMonk I think they really mean to say, newly released AAA games, because any AAA game 3 years or older plays like butter on most pc handhelds.

    • @mylanthony
      @mylanthony Год назад

      Like Asus would care about customers

  • @datpspguy
    @datpspguy Год назад +28

    honestly this is a very thorough review, the time and dedication put into not only getting the device but also stress testing it through different scenarios makes it that much better for us consumers on launch day.. Thank you

    • @ecoffey71
      @ecoffey71 11 месяцев назад

      I can't believe I have to explain this to you kids.Testing aaa games is what u want tested.if a game like cyberpunk 2077 will run more then likely a pos game like mine craft will run.trust me I know this.i most likely was playing atari 2600 b4 you were swimming in your dad's nutsack.pixalated games don't take much to run

  • @tomoprime217
    @tomoprime217 Год назад +25

    Taki remember if you set the display to 60hz it locks you into v-sync and you cannot use variable refresh rate which this device supports! This may affect the frame limiter! Edit: noted on Digital Foundry if I recall.

    • @Artanis5
      @Artanis5 Год назад +1

      Which basically means you must never user refresh rate limiter. Why does it even exist?

    • @dumkopf
      @dumkopf Год назад

      ​@@Artanis5 you mean why does the screen support 60hz?

    • @matthewhaworth5935
      @matthewhaworth5935 Год назад +4

      ​@@Artanis5 there really is no need with VRR honestly. You can still set a framerate cap, and VRR will just automatically vary the refresh rate on its own. I guess in a desktop environment / web browsing etc it will use more power, but in that situation you don't need VRR anyway so you can just set refresh rate lower.

  • @rsorry
    @rsorry Год назад +19

    Very nice review, I pre-ordered one and am stoked. Most of the games I wanna play will require at least 15w so I don't have any issue with that but those software bugs need to be fixed asap 🔥

  • @Goalier95
    @Goalier95 Год назад +61

    I gots the Steam Deck and love it but will also be getting the Ally... I'm just a gaming handheld junkie. Next year Alienware and Razer needs to have their own portables... Xbox portable maybe?

    • @dimes305
      @dimes305 Год назад +1

      Razer already has the Razer edge

    • @Goalier95
      @Goalier95 Год назад +1

      @@dimes305 yeah, but it's Android(?) or cloud based? Windows PC handhelds is the hotness.

    • @dimes305
      @dimes305 Год назад

      @@Goalier95 true I think there should be a windows handheld for 400 $700 is a bit much

    • @Goalier95
      @Goalier95 Год назад +4

      @@dimes305 yep, more companies, more competition and hopefully cheaper prices.. win for everyone.

    • @e2rqey
      @e2rqey Год назад +2

      I just want a 7840u version of the GPD Win 4 or the 7840u version of the GPD Win 2 Max

  • @gianlucaangeli
    @gianlucaangeli Год назад +40

    the big question is: do we trust Asus to give it a good long term support? Like Valve made a custom shader compiler for Elden Ring to make it run better on Steam Deck. I don't see Asus doing anything like that.

    • @lilrockstar77
      @lilrockstar77 Год назад +11

      There is no company like that at all. That’s why it’s good that this is an x86 machine. Steams support extendeds beyond their hardware

    • @lilrockstar77
      @lilrockstar77 Год назад +4

      In short the point you make is a non issue

    • @ThaexakaMavro
      @ThaexakaMavro Год назад +11

      simple answer is no just look at their smartphones lol

    • @lilrockstar77
      @lilrockstar77 Год назад +4

      If it’s someone looking to get the simplest experience I’d say steam deck over this all day. But if you are ok with tinkering. Steam os will be a thing that will be available if not now via 3 party soon

    • @xMRxLAMAx
      @xMRxLAMAx Год назад +2

      @@ThaexakaMavro that’s why you shouldn’t buy androids

  • @JittikMieger
    @JittikMieger Год назад +67

    The Steam Deck had bugs at launch, but the software of the Ally is just about as good as your average AAA game at launch...

    • @mechanicalmonk2020
      @mechanicalmonk2020 Год назад +20

      The real issue isn't that it's buggy. The real issue is that there's no reason to suspect that it'll get better

    • @inquisitive5418
      @inquisitive5418 Год назад +13

      ​@@mechanicalmonk2020 exactly. I don't find any reason to change my steam deck to this piece of terrible performance. 8trfs compare to 1.6trfs on steam deck and I found not a big difference in performance. Is a shite piece of technic

    • @MatElFidel
      @MatElFidel Год назад +8

      @@mechanicalmonk2020 Not to mention, Asus is a hardware company, while Valve is primarily a software company, and you can sort of see how that difference manifests in the products that they've put out so far. ROG is definitely a powerhouse compared to the deck, but the amount of work that Valve has put into the Steam and SteamOS software over the past year has been very admirable. Even a year later they're still pumping out weekly updates for the deck and I'm quite happy with that.
      What I would LOVE to see is when SteamOS becomes an open build and we can put it on the ROG Ally.

    • @cheeeeezewizzz
      @cheeeeezewizzz Год назад +5

      @@inquisitive5418 Npt to mention that these windows handhelds are miserable to use without a keyboard and mouse. The only ones worth the money are the GPD devices.

    • @getsmack
      @getsmack Год назад +14

      Wow even steam has fanboys 😂😂😂😂

  • @MrMagicAmmo
    @MrMagicAmmo Год назад +14

    I heard some reviews say you have to kinda hold it with your palms on the top of those edges and then its really comfortable

  • @Pridetoons
    @Pridetoons Год назад +18

    To me the ROG Ally is better than the Steam Deck because the Software Compatibility is way better. I have thousands of games on GOG, Steam, and Itch so I refuse to sacrifice Compatibility.

    • @anothernumber6679
      @anothernumber6679 Год назад

      Keep on sucking the micrococ*

    • @ManhuaandMangaMaven
      @ManhuaandMangaMaven Год назад +1

      Those are issues steam will eventually fix

    • @adolfbilic8622
      @adolfbilic8622 Год назад +4

      ​@@ManhuaandMangaMaven still no gamepass epic etc... on steam ...

    • @ManhuaandMangaMaven
      @ManhuaandMangaMaven Год назад

      @@adolfbilic8622 it’ll come eventually, if epic and Microsoft want to bring it to the Linux platform valve will happily add it

    • @xMRxLAMAx
      @xMRxLAMAx Год назад +4

      @@ManhuaandMangaMaven good luck on waiting for that

  • @j350zr7
    @j350zr7 Год назад +9

    Great review/overview. Most ROG Ally reviews show only usable footage and I'm sure they've encountered bugs along the way but only quickly dismissed them. Your video was done extremely well with no BS and was straight to the point. Thank you. I believe these are just teething issues and should be resolved a couple of months after the release date.

  • @ChadKenova
    @ChadKenova Год назад +42

    Anyone who got a deck day one will remember how buggy it was it took many updates to get it where it is now. Just give the ally some time and I think its gonna be a great handheld.

    • @ryansookram4023
      @ryansookram4023 Год назад +16

      Idk if asus is gonna keep working on the ally the same way steam kept at the steam deck especially given asus lack of support for a lot of their devices

    • @juhadexcelsior
      @juhadexcelsior Год назад +16

      Asus is notoriously bad with software updates though

    • @r8420hp
      @r8420hp Год назад +12

      As someone who had an Asus ROG motherboard, don't get your hopes up. Armory Crate is and always was buggy and bloated, and Asus done nothing about it for years.

    • @bionic-beaver
      @bionic-beaver Год назад +10

      When you guys are going to understand that the Deck can be improved at OS and Kernel level while the best Asus can do is working on drivers and maybe Armoury Crate?

    • @Jaxv3r
      @Jaxv3r Год назад +2

      @@bionic-beaver yeah that's good thing with the steam deck, it has much more ease of use and also the company basically controls anything, Asus probably 20%? of the software, unless Windows made their own windows handheld

  • @Pridetoons
    @Pridetoons Год назад +30

    The ROG Ally is a Buggy Mess right now. The Steam Deck was the same way when it was first released. I'm pretty sure ASUS will fix these issues in future updates.

    • @Montisaquadeis
      @Montisaquadeis Год назад +3

      @@kadupse All they can do is report "bugs" back to Microsoft and HOPE they address them with WIndows Updates

    • @Pridetoons
      @Pridetoons Год назад +7

      ​@@kadupse Another reason to hate Microsoft. This is why I get mad at developers for not acknowledging Linux as a gaming platform.

    • @seeibe
      @seeibe Год назад +3

      @@kadupse Exactly. Many of the issues with Windows have existed for years and haven't been fixed. If the Ally gets them to fix those issues finally I'll be happy, but somehow I doubt it..

    • @oladipupodurotimi4754
      @oladipupodurotimi4754 Год назад +2

      @Kadu Penuela this. Steam os was made from the ground up and made specifically for steam deck while windows is more tailored towards beefy pc.

    • @3godzilla3
      @3godzilla3 Год назад +1

      @@Pridetoons Right, but then you don't get 100% compatibility with all Steam games. Would much rather play my games and deal with a few small less important bugs (which all have to do with ease of use than anything, and not the games themselves).

  • @potato2018
    @potato2018 Год назад +39

    From what I read, Asus is already working on fixes and improvements to the device so that it's ready for consumers when it ships. So I have hope that some of the bugs will be fixed and everything.

    • @franciscofredviana743
      @franciscofredviana743 Год назад +5

      But you can't fix that big border on the screen. It's 2023, it's time for Bord less screen on premium devices.

    • @alonsom8977
      @alonsom8977 Год назад +16

      ​@@franciscofredviana743 Nobody cares.

    • @JavierSegura
      @JavierSegura Год назад +7

      @@franciscofredviana743 The price range for premium devices is $1200, this is not a premium device, but it can compete against them.
      @potato20 Also nah, Asus won't have all fixes ready by launch. Problems will persist, this is not Valve.

    • @chriswright8074
      @chriswright8074 Год назад +2

      @@franciscofredviana743 actually no borders help protect the screen

    • @potato2018
      @potato2018 Год назад +5

      @JavierSegura I never said all the problems would be fixed. But I read they are trying to do their best at trying to fix bugs and stuff from reviewers' feedback.

  • @TechThusiast
    @TechThusiast Год назад +14

    Got my order in already. Will make a bunch of Emulation videos. 😎

    • @gouravburnpur
      @gouravburnpur Год назад +4

      Can you please make switch emulation videos

    • @TechThusiast
      @TechThusiast Год назад +2

      @@gouravburnpur sure thing

    • @slickrik302
      @slickrik302 Год назад +1

      Just subscribed. Look forward to those emulation videos.

    • @TechThusiast
      @TechThusiast Год назад +1

      @@slickrik302 cool, will most likely be on my 2nd channel

  • @masamasa1815
    @masamasa1815 Год назад +2

    I pre-ordered this and am excited for it but I'm going to be honest here. I think the steam deck is going to distroy this thing in sales. The problem with this Asus handheld is windows. You would be surprised to learn that a growing amount of people are becoming more windows illiterate as time goes. In a world where people are increasingly using their incredibly easy to use smartphones especially apple phones, windows is becoming increasingly cumbersome for many. Digging into settings, updating drivers, fixing issues in device manager for instance is not exactly a streamlined thing in windows. I think many people who aren't big PC users or who aren't already PC gamers are going to find this handheld overwhelming. The steam deck is so much more pick up and play, it makes PC gaming as approachable as it's ever been. Console gaming has taken off through the years because you put your game in and play, PC gaming has just never been quite that easy. This is all just my opinion of course but I do think this device is going to appeal to a more tech literate crowd.

  • @glennshoemake4200
    @glennshoemake4200 Год назад +22

    I was playing Lost Planet 2 on my Onexplayer 5800u 8.4 inch screen at 2560x1600 yesterday and it made me realize there is no rush to upgrade to the latest and greatest as there are so many fun games to play without worrying about trying to play brand new games.

    • @mechanicalmonk2020
      @mechanicalmonk2020 Год назад +1

      Ding ding ding. Exactly.
      If you go from 30fps low settings to 40fps low settings on the latest AAA games, it's not really a benefit is it?

    • @adpbobcat
      @adpbobcat Год назад +1

      How do you like your onexplayer? I've been looking at it and the Aokzoe a1 pro

    • @glennshoemake4200
      @glennshoemake4200 Год назад

      @@adpbobcat I honestly play the Steam Deck more, but the Onexplayer has an amazing screen and much better analog triggers than Steam Deck. Also Windows 11 updates are a pain as I boot directly into Bigbox as my launcher and try to forget Windows is being used. I use it for non Steam games and games that require a lot of mods / patches which makes it easier than Steam Deck as my time is very limited for gaming.
      I bought a massive battery brick and a long usbc cable and put the battery on the floor when I'm playing on the couch and have no issues with battery life.

  • @peter_parkour
    @peter_parkour Год назад +2

    I wish reviewers stop saying they expect this to be a $1000 product cause it might encourage Asus to inflate the price on the next iteration. 😅 They're not a small company from China that need to reach a profit margin and find it hard to breakeven cause the device don't really reach shelves in the US. They're "ASUS" that's a million dollar hardware company that already has the network to distribute their product it is not only expected for them to price these devices more competitively it's logical.

  • @baccarah7010
    @baccarah7010 Год назад +30

    The issues its having can (and hopefully will) be adressed with software either by asus themselves or the community.
    Remember, the steam deck had a bunch of software problems on launch and they have been mostly ironed out by now.

    • @TheSixthSLoT
      @TheSixthSLoT Год назад +11

      Yeah, but Valve is reputable about updating their tech. Asus kinda isn't. If you look at their laptops over the last few years, Asus has been known the send firmware updates up to about a year before they just don't anymore. The best indicator of what someone will do in the future is to look at their past. Personally, I do not trust ASUS to update this device long term, especially if it isn't successful. Right now, you can still (STILL) preorder this device on Best Buy, and get it the day it comes out. No waiting list or anything. This doesn't seem like a hot seller the way the Steam Deck was, which tells me that ASUS won't be supporting this device long term.

    • @mattyin3229
      @mattyin3229 Год назад +5

      Difference is….. Asus is a hardware first company and Valve is a software first company. Valve is incentivized to keep updating their handheld software in order to keep people on steam. While Asus would probably like to have software more fine tuned for their hardware, what incentive does Valve or Microsoft have to keep putting out updates at the pace Valve has been doing for the steam deck? I would love to be proven wrong, but Im not too confident asus will push for as many updates to the software as people probably want. It would probably be more likely that the ROG ally 2 will have more refined software.

    • @NTripleOne
      @NTripleOne Год назад +3

      Armoury crate is ass and I have no faith in them making it less ass for the Ally

    • @hgh1727
      @hgh1727 Год назад +1

      @@TheSixthSLoT That's my concern too, Asus don't have the best history of updating their software. Valve has a lot more support and commitment to the Steam Deck it seems. Although Asus does seem to push these devices pretty hard, but it even launches a pre order in my country in a week already, while their ROG phone usually only launches 3-6 months after global launch. I don't if they have too much stock or what.

    • @majikarus
      @majikarus Год назад +1

      @@NTripleOne Seriously they pretty much abandon their $3000 laptops... it's pretty optimistic to think they'll care about upkeeping a $700 device a year from now. They'll just abandon it too and make a Ally 2 or something.

  • @aidenwright3091
    @aidenwright3091 Год назад +7

    Would you say just keeping it plugged in on charge would be the best way to get the most performance for those more demanding games

    • @TakiUdon
      @TakiUdon  Год назад +5

      Yes, that's why I'll use this mostly with a portable charger in the bag.

    • @AugustineKusiDuah-bk4fr
      @AugustineKusiDuah-bk4fr Год назад

      Why do you need to be plugged in and get lesser performance when handhelds like the Win Max2 give you higher performance with longer battery life?

  • @zork219
    @zork219 Год назад +3

    Double-edged sword of running Windows on a handheld. I hope MS will make handheld optimized version of Win 11. Asus also not the most reliable manufacturer when it comes to product support. On the other side I still running in to issues when I use Steam deck, starting menus are a mess, touchscreen is unreliable in them

  • @seizuresaladventures
    @seizuresaladventures Год назад +6

    Thank you for your preview/review, Taki! You say it as it is - and I appreciate you for that.

  • @Montisaquadeis
    @Montisaquadeis Год назад +16

    As for the palms of your hands you MIGHT need to adjust your grip aka how you hold it. Try putting the meat of your palms on the top of the device and wrapping your fingers around it so that your fingers line up with the back button instead of putting the corner of the device int he meat of your palm.

    • @melxb
      @melxb Год назад +2

      ​​​​​​​​​@watchmejumpstart he probably watched retro game corps's rog video who said the same thing when he started holding it with palms more on top of it he started to love the way it feels vs initially hating it when he held it more standard controller/steam deck style like taki with it jammed into his palms and hand fully wrapping around it, it's also why then the back button will not align/feel natural to press

    • @brandont7214
      @brandont7214 Год назад +1

      ​@watchmejumpstart Why you so defensive? Dude was only trying to help Taki😂

  • @Frizan
    @Frizan Год назад +7

    Wonder if rog will support the software as actively as valve, the decks updates come pretty quick

    • @wrathtard1428
      @wrathtard1428 Год назад +2

      In their q&a they said that they intend to support this thing wholeheartedly.

    • @bionic-beaver
      @bionic-beaver Год назад

      ​@@wrathtard1428😂

    • @overoula
      @overoula Год назад +1

      having other rog devices from them like motherboards/rog phones.. i say they will support it for 1 year ..... :P

    • @omanimitokanimi7976
      @omanimitokanimi7976 Год назад

      Asus might have nice hardware, but you absolutely should not trust them to provide good software support with meaningful updates.

    • @psvitaoled197
      @psvitaoled197 Год назад

      @@wrathtard1428 asus are known liars though lol

  • @qualitytouch
    @qualitytouch Год назад +1

    Do yall realize this is a pre-production??? The device comes out in several weeks, so basically it will be a lot better then all these videos that are nit picking the hell out of it. Nothing is perfect, just enjoy the ride thats call ROG ALLY

  • @seouljah760
    @seouljah760 Год назад +3

    Taki my dude, the Closed Captioning is a mess on this video. Do what you will with this information.

  • @rushmore3927
    @rushmore3927 Год назад +2

    Dang, for you to say it's buggy- it must be BUGGY, since usually your flexible on new devices. BTW, do you know if this device has hot swapping of micro sd cards full of game, like Steam OS? Probably not, since Windows does not play well with multiple cards with installed games.

  • @xpertgamer9
    @xpertgamer9 Год назад +7

    Thanks Taki for giving us a deep dive into the Ally in its current state.
    I did not expect the software side of the Ally to be so poorly optimized and buggy when its this close to launch day. It makes its Chinese competitors (GPD, Aokzoe, Ayaneo) look good in comparison, which is pretty embarrassing. Correct me if I'm wrong, but the steam deck never had issues this egregious even during the early days at launch.
    I also really dislike the decision made to "simplify" TDP control, especially on a device with a small battery where conserving battery life is all the more important - what's wrong with the way all other devices openly display and let you adjust TDP? If you need more power to get more frames turn up the TDP value with the full knowledge that you are trading off battery life. Hiding this behind vague power settings really serves no purpose in my opinion.
    The things the Ally really gets right seems to be the ergonomics, display and sound - all of which appear to be excellent. But I'm not convinced that this is the go-to device. Competition from other 7840U handhelds is fierce - there's the Aokzoe A1 Pro that's also launching in June (at least its supposed to launch in June), and the GPD Win Max 2 (2023 ver) and Ayaneo 2S soon around August-ish. I'm personally thinking of getting the A1 Pro - bigger 8" screen (though the tradeoff is its less bright and 60hz only which is still fine for my use case), much bigger 65wh battery, minimal software bugs (I can't believe this is a plus for Aokzoe...), decent-ish ergonomics, and I use earphones or headphones for sound anyway.

    • @conner_productions
      @conner_productions Год назад +3

      The Steam Deck was insanely buggy! The Ally has a huge boost in performance

    • @MaxDrougge
      @MaxDrougge Год назад +1

      From what i hear and been reading is that the Steam deck had far more bugs in its early days than this.
      I was also considering one of the Chinese options. But then I came to my my senses that I really don't want a Chinese device. Partly because, it's Chinese, and partly because the hardware support and warranty will be terrible.

    • @mechanicalmonk2020
      @mechanicalmonk2020 Год назад +1

      ​@@MaxDrougge as someone who was there in the early days, no it didn't. It had some QOL issues and some minor bugs. Certainly nothing as game breaking as "the controller config just didn't work lol"

    • @xpertgamer9
      @xpertgamer9 Год назад +1

      @@mechanicalmonk2020 Yeah, one of my friends owned the steam deck during the early days too and I don't recall any game breaking complaints like buttons deciding not to work mid-game session. A lot of QOL and annoying bugs due to Steam OS being somewhat unrefined from what I understood, but the device and controller configs worked once in game.

    • @jesusbarrera6916
      @jesusbarrera6916 Год назад +1

      @@conner_productions and worse battery life due to bad software....

  • @mangu5128
    @mangu5128 Год назад +1

    from a hardware standpoint the ally is better but for software steam deck rolls for now

  • @daruna3142
    @daruna3142 Год назад +13

    the bugs would a total dealbreaker for me. I am probably (read: DEFINITELY) spoiled thanks to getting my Deck when all the kinks and extra features had been ironed out and added, so my experience the whole time has been basically flawless and I didn't have to deal with the nonsense that early adopters had to. But the idea of dropping 700 dollars (more where I live) on a device that will just straight up stop working as it sits in my hands is utterly unacceptable to me.

    • @AndRei-yc3ti
      @AndRei-yc3ti Год назад +2

      Well it hasn't been officially released yet and will get updates soon, so we will see

    • @dipplodocus
      @dipplodocus Год назад +6

      Asus customer service has been terrible last few years not sticking to there own warranty policy and doing everything in there power to blame you they use to be good but lately I wouldn't trust them with a badge pole been having alot of issues with there laptops lately if you don't know research it up as I say I had there products over the years but these last few years I feel like they've gone downhill and no where near as trust worthy as they use to be no customer service don't stick to there own warranty policy and lately I feel like there products have more issues than ever before almost as if there spending less in quality control but under the hood specs are good I so hope there customer service improves but I feel as if it's only gonna get worse I want a rog ally probably will pick one up just worry further down line they'll be problems and Asus won't be there for there customers

    • @donniedarko4497
      @donniedarko4497 Год назад

      I had deck Q2 early on, and it was basically flawless then even

    • @JAnderson127
      @JAnderson127 Год назад

      bugs can be handled easily with software updates

  • @samhuang683
    @samhuang683 Год назад +5

    1. Does whatever GPD does for their 7840u to get the boosted scores has any negatives for the user or device itself?
    Can 't see why other manufacturers would not do the same unless it has its own disadvantages.
    2. Does your Ally lost to a 6800u at any TDP range?

    • @ezg8448
      @ezg8448 Год назад +2

      Drivers are still immature for RDNA3. The 7840U DOES lose to the 6800U on some benchmarks, but it will also be 50% faster on others.
      This is based on other people's benchmarks though.

    • @AugustineKusiDuah-bk4fr
      @AugustineKusiDuah-bk4fr Год назад

      @@ezg8448 loses to which benchmarks?

    • @ezg8448
      @ezg8448 Год назад

      @Augustine Kusi Duah - This very video and plus videos from the Phawx.

    • @AugustineKusiDuah-bk4fr
      @AugustineKusiDuah-bk4fr Год назад

      @@ezg8448 meaning? I don’t get what you are trying to say

    • @ezg8448
      @ezg8448 Год назад

      @Augustine Kusi Duah - You wanted benchmarks, they were always there. Go over the video again, plus the phawx's work validated it.

  • @StormBurnX
    @StormBurnX Год назад +2

    7:09 I know this is COMPLETELY off topic but damn. Seeing that Spiral Knights icon (lower right) really made my day. What a throwback to when I first got into steam in ~2011. I remember being a broke college kid and looking at interesting cheap/free things to play with my friends between classes, and that game easily was the second-most played (after terarria) for me. TF2 probably would have been more nostalgic to me but my laptop couldn't even run it, so spiral knights was my go-to :P

  • @MadDarthMatt
    @MadDarthMatt Год назад +15

    I've seen a user mode for the power output, so you can set it how you want.

    • @MadDarthMatt
      @MadDarthMatt Год назад +1

      Being a Windows device, the chances are good that it was updating when things were going out on you. I hate Windows doesnt tell you when it is updating.

    • @MadDarthMatt
      @MadDarthMatt Год назад +1

      You have to change settings like fps limit before you go in game

  • @Ruslan.88266
    @Ruslan.88266 Год назад +2

    At the end of the day Asus is in the business of selling hardware and has no incentive for fixing issues!
    It is left up to Microsoft to make any software (fixes)

  • @YouJGSousa
    @YouJGSousa Год назад +5

    Those trackpads not being there is a big big con. Can’t go back.

  • @schtoltheimreinbach
    @schtoltheimreinbach Год назад +4

    This is the best review of the ally. Got mine preordered

  • @ScrapKing73
    @ScrapKing73 Год назад +1

    I think you’re maybe the only reviewer who didn’t run Forza Horizon 5 on the Ally. :-)

  • @Andre-Mostert
    @Andre-Mostert Год назад +1

    I want to get rid of my desktop pc that I use for playing Diablo and some Wow. Would love to see a video about using this machine plugged into a monitor and using it like a normal desktop. If this can run Diablo and WoW I am pretty much sold. I tried the steam deck and just did not get along with it. I love my switch and this one I hope I can use as a day to day remote desktop and also a gaming PC. Great video.

  • @seiji_senpai
    @seiji_senpai Год назад +2

    Imagine if they just use this reviewers as beta testers to find hidden and minute bugs that theyre too lazy to check, so that they could patch it up later 😅

  • @Getgood1980
    @Getgood1980 Год назад +2

    rog fan guys cry about, taki udon just reviewing it without bias, no money giving by asus or paid for it 🤣😂

  • @fat3lwound
    @fat3lwound Год назад +8

    With all the Asus products I’ve had in the past, I’d predict a good 6mths of support after purchase.

    • @TheSixthSLoT
      @TheSixthSLoT Год назад +1

      That's exactly what I'm hesitant about. The best indicator of what a company will do in the future is looking to what they've done in the past. ASUS is likely to do just as you said, although I have see them support their laptops for up to a year. So 6-12 months is a fair prediction. That's another reason why I'm considering the Steam Deck instead. I know Valve supports the sh*t out of that thing, and will continue to for the foreseeable future

    • @Tigerhearty
      @Tigerhearty Год назад +1

      after 6 months they will stop supporting it because a lot of people are going to refund it.

    • @Jur1_00
      @Jur1_00 Год назад

      @@TheSixthSLoT that’s why I waited a year to get the steam deck so I can see the kind of support it get. And even if Valve stop supporting the steam deck you know they’re are community members that will carry on

  • @gloriouskatatsumuri
    @gloriouskatatsumuri Год назад +12

    Cancelled my pre order, happy to stick with the Steam Deck in the short term future but very excited to see what other handhelds are on the horizon.

  • @matthewcullen3486
    @matthewcullen3486 Год назад +2

    The freesync with low framerate compensation is what tipped me over. Also most reviews don't go into the benefits of having freesync. They barely touch on it.

  • @Madblaster6
    @Madblaster6 Год назад +1

    I've watched several reviews and the fact about 3 profile option is incorrect. There's a 4th where you can set your custom TDP.

    • @TakiUdon
      @TakiUdon  Год назад

      It has a 15W minimum. It's useless for solving the problem that I brought up.

    • @Madblaster6
      @Madblaster6 Год назад +1

      @@TakiUdon that’s beside the point. It’s still misinformation

  • @KaladinStormBlessed190
    @KaladinStormBlessed190 Год назад +1

    i really need that video of that external hard drive

  • @handheldempire4215
    @handheldempire4215 Год назад +1

    How is the screen compared to something like the oled switch

  • @elcheapo017
    @elcheapo017 Год назад +1

    Lenovo Legion Handheld Specs Wishlist:
    7.5-inch bezel-less 1080p 120Hz OLED 500nits FreeSync Premium Laminated
    2x 1W RMS Speakers
    Ryzen 7840U APU with Liquid Metal
    32GB LPDDR5X 7500MHz RAM in Quad-channel
    512GB PCIe 4 M.2 2280 SSD
    50Whr Battery
    USB 4 Type C Port (40Gb/s)
    Oculink x16 Port (128Gb/s) for eGPU
    Hall-effect Analog Sticks + Triggers
    Haptics + High-polling rate Gyro

  • @rm13evm
    @rm13evm Год назад +1

    Taki when the video on external portable storage out.
    Would it be a head ache to upgrade the internal drive to a 2tb later on or should you do it before setup?

  • @sir.fender6034
    @sir.fender6034 Год назад +2

    Most of the bugs you encountered have one thing in common, It's usually controller (HID) related. My guess is that a driver needs to be worked on and improved before release. Great video!

  • @baraaamir7891
    @baraaamir7891 Год назад +6

    I was debating ordering the asus ally, but then withheld, the more I see people genuine reviews the more I think I made the right decision in buying the steam deck.
    Sure the asus will outperform the deck at higher wattages, but the battery life will only last an hour or less. While the deck can run for 2 hrs at the same watts if the fps was fixed at 30 fps. Steam really doing some magic with their power managment.

    • @TheSixthSLoT
      @TheSixthSLoT Год назад +4

      Exactly. The hype these reviewers come out of the gate with makes people think this is more powerful than the Steam Deck. Power in this case, is a shade of grey. Sure, the Ally has ACCESS to more power, but the Steam Deck has more power where it counts the most on a handheld, and that's at lower heat levels. The Ally needs to be above 15 TDP just to kick thing off on AAA games, where the Steam Deck can get great performance at like 7 freakin watts. Same size battery on both devices, but you get more efficiency on the Deck.

    • @owusuphilipable
      @owusuphilipable Год назад

      That’s not true it’s not 1 hr, lol 😂 it’s 1.40 in performance, also steam deck last about 10% more in some games lol

  • @Grove330
    @Grove330 Год назад +1

    I just can’t see this being as comfortable as the steam deck, the back is almost as flat as the switch which usually means cramped hands. Then again my hands are the size of a ipad.

  • @CharlieEdward25
    @CharlieEdward25 Год назад +2

    Looks like steam deck much better

  • @AlexRubio
    @AlexRubio Год назад +1

    I'm about to cancel my pre-order. All these dam windows bug's, but... we'll see you can also manually against tdp

  • @CR0SSJ
    @CR0SSJ Год назад +4

    Great review, specially on highlight what could go wrong with the device.
    I'm stuck in the middle for pre-ordering this device since the specs are great and the performance you could get from it sounded amazing. I don't have a steamdeck, and have been long looking for some options for a handheld PC alternative (I;m in NZ and here we can't get the steamdeck unless parallel imported) and when I saw the specs and price of the Ally I was tempted. However, as an ASUS ROG laptop user I KNOW that the armory crate/command centre is shitty at best and a bloatware at worst. This video, for me, confirms some of those worst parts of ASUS. Community/Open Source tools could probably give a big assist to the device, but putting hopes on something that's not a first party solution could also provide risky, even just in terms of availability. I'll probably look into some more reviews, but at least I have Taki to thank both, if I decide to keep my money, or if I do buy; since Taki seems to like the device as an overall.

  • @hanshanserlein576
    @hanshanserlein576 Год назад +1

    Using Windows for a handheld is a bad idea (at least for now). The product gets more expensive because they have to pay Microsoft, they have zero control over the OS, Windows eats up important resources that are already limited on such a device, Microsoft could brick the device with any future update, no usable sleep function,...

    • @ImUrZaddy
      @ImUrZaddy Год назад

      Windows is a disgusting OS, Linux all the way

  • @geegoo
    @geegoo Год назад +1

    29:00 What's the game you're playing here? Nice review btw, I always appreciate the honesty of pointing out all the most glaring flaws and some more

  • @maximusprometheus6149
    @maximusprometheus6149 Год назад +2

    "I decided to play this game as a pacifist" 😂

  • @Joeybatz33
    @Joeybatz33 Год назад +3

    Awesome hands on impressions. Asus will definitely try to fix these issues I'm sure with updates. I'll be patient with it but I'm exited to get mine day 1 🔥

    • @psvitaoled197
      @psvitaoled197 Год назад +2

      It’s asus, they’re not great with service that’s it’s main problem.

  • @gimmibox
    @gimmibox Год назад +19

    Dude's dedication to getting devices alone makes this channel better than the majority of tech channels out there.

    • @Pridetoons
      @Pridetoons Год назад

      It's not hard if you live in China like Taki does.

  • @iiishception
    @iiishception Год назад +3

    When you talked about the glitches reminds me why I'm not sure on this device. I know you state it hasn't happened on other windows handheld but I still think windows holds this device back.

    • @ghostlegit
      @ghostlegit Год назад +3

      Windows doesn't hold this device back. In fact if it wasn't windows I wouldn't even consider buying it.

    • @jollyrancherchick
      @jollyrancherchick Год назад

      @@ghostlegit Statements like “windows hold this back” is how you tell actual pc gamers from steam fanboys. If you enjoy playing games, you’re gonna go with the device that allows you play the most games possible, no matter the store front.

    • @jesusbarrera6916
      @jesusbarrera6916 Год назад +2

      @@jollyrancherchick if you enjoy playing games you will get the most software based device that allows you to play said games.... the ALLY does not have the trackpads to play RTS games, have fun with that

    • @damianabregba7476
      @damianabregba7476 Год назад +1

      If you care about smoothness of the experience then yes Windows hold it back.

    • @gamerito100
      @gamerito100 Год назад

      ​​@@jollyrancherchick Windows holds back all the industry, tho, Windows shills are the reason why we can't have dev support for way superior OS, tho now mist of the games that you can't playon Linux are the ones who have malware like Denuvo

  • @KevTheGalaxybender
    @KevTheGalaxybender Год назад

    I was interested in this but after seeing all those bugs, no thanks. I didn't even fiish watching all of the bugs. After the PG bug I gave up.

  • @kaiweaver8954
    @kaiweaver8954 Год назад +19

    It looks interesting for sure, not sure worth a buy tho

    • @gouravburnpur
      @gouravburnpur Год назад +9

      It's worth to buy

    • @DroBoww
      @DroBoww Год назад +4

      @@gouravburnpurEhh

    • @mcwaller123
      @mcwaller123 Год назад +4

      Depends on your needs, I preordered it

    • @solkalibri1376
      @solkalibri1376 Год назад

      Don't

    • @zairemorpheus
      @zairemorpheus Год назад +6

      Oh it's definitely work the buy....... not trying to sound like an asshole but you get a pc, nintendo switch, ps3 and more. Worth every penny.

  • @Labuddhista
    @Labuddhista 4 месяца назад

    Hello taki!, and guys So im having and issue with microsoft and x box store games they wont let me launch them saying and error 0x800704c7 with those numbers and i tried everything with my rog hours and hours of research and different methods and i havent been able to fix it if anyone can help plssss do let me know

  • @valentine_puppy
    @valentine_puppy Год назад

    You haven't seen a handheld that does a circle D-pad well?
    Excuse me Taki, What about Game Gear and Nomad? If some
    enterprising person were to, oh I don't know, gather the ideas
    made by one of the greatest game companies to ever exist.
    That would be SEGA, I think you might see a good one. Personally,
    if I owned this, I'd replace that with a Game Gear or Nomad D-Pad.

  • @Moes_Prep_and_Tech
    @Moes_Prep_and_Tech Год назад +1

    I'm in love with that Hard Drive Enclosure. Where can I buy one?

  • @cyclonmaster
    @cyclonmaster Год назад +1

    definitely gonna get one for myself...this is best laptop alternatif

  • @24yrukdesigner
    @24yrukdesigner Год назад

    Must have been drivers, because I've been playing the same games I play on a £4000 Gaming laptop, on my Ally Rog and can't tell the difference other than small details and sharper shadows. The Ally Rog is literally the greatest handheld ever made.

  • @craftavenuecreations4931
    @craftavenuecreations4931 Год назад

    I really need to know how Sims 4 works on here 🙏🏻🙏🏻 any way you’d be willing to test it?

  • @Echelon730
    @Echelon730 Год назад

    I don't care how well the Ally Performs. That d-pad is best described as an "ABOMINATION"
    It look like a black lumpy mole, that you probably should go to the doctor about.

  • @pranze3484
    @pranze3484 Год назад

    You're the only one loving buggy messes, bare a few masochists who don't know any better and think "but compatibility". Does gears of war work on win 11? Nope. With proton? Yes.

  • @kondor99999
    @kondor99999 Год назад

    SD still rules at 10w. And with a small 40wh battery, I don’t really care about 20w+ performance. Also, where are the touchpads? I love those things on the SD.

  • @ibaysyn
    @ibaysyn Год назад +3

    windows and no trackpad 😮

    • @xMRxLAMAx
      @xMRxLAMAx Год назад +1

      Yeh games just working and something that’s not necessary… I think the ally will do fine

  • @Sunburst6520
    @Sunburst6520 Год назад

    Matthew 13:18-23 18 Hear ye therefore the parable of the sower. 19 When any one heareth the word of the kingdom, and understandeth it not, then cometh the wicked one, and catcheth away that which was sown in his heart. This is he which received seed by the way side. 20 But he that received the seed into stony places, the same is he that heareth the word, and anon with joy receiveth it; 21 Yet hath he not root in himself, but dureth for a while: for when tribulation or persecution ariseth because of the word, by and by he is offended. 22 He also that received seed among the thorns is he that heareth the word; and the care of this world, and the deceitfulness of riches, choke the word, and he becometh unfruitful. 23 But he that received seed into the good ground is he that heareth the word, and understandeth it; which also beareth fruit, and bringeth forth, some an hundredfold, some sixty, some thirty.

  • @ashaanderson5733
    @ashaanderson5733 Год назад

    Does anyone know how this does with stuff from epic games store(kingdom hearts and final fantasy specifically) my steam deck cant handle it for long and the compatibility kinda sucks for my stuff

  • @qwerty6789x
    @qwerty6789x Год назад

    ASUS is a great hardware company unfortunately they struggle on software support for decades.hopefully its not the case for ROG Ally

  • @maximusprometheus6149
    @maximusprometheus6149 Год назад

    I think I'm going to cancel my pre-order. I've been hearing that Asus has very poor customer service and quality control the past couple of years.

  • @dicksonmatogo7967
    @dicksonmatogo7967 Год назад +1

    Please can you do a side by side comparison between gpd win4 and asus rog ally.

  • @thaiden03
    @thaiden03 Год назад

    All these amd ryzen apu have problems updating windows 11. Enjoy windows Blue screen of death with these handhelds.

  • @ecoffey71
    @ecoffey71 11 месяцев назад

    Here's a free lesson children.NEVER and I mean NEVER buy and new gadgets for at least a few months.New tech will always be buggy asf

  • @JRChuxx
    @JRChuxx Год назад +1

    This thing has 99 problems and a functional ain't one.😂

  • @villegas24
    @villegas24 Год назад

    Bro really thinks he made a sacrifice because he had to pay “a large portion” of the device costs 😂😂 welcome to real consumer life

  • @sollarezzz3714
    @sollarezzz3714 Год назад

    My singular issue is with armory crate. Across 2 laptops I’ve only ever had issues, my one daily driver laptop runs crate and then tells me the software isn’t able to change my screen settings so I’m stuck on default missing any other features for the screen. (And trust that I’ve actually spent an unholy amount of time attempting to fix it with customer service) If I could have it as reliable as steam os, I might buy one. But that’s to be seen.

  • @arthurmorgan1724
    @arthurmorgan1724 Год назад +2

    Hey man please use 1080p custom preset while testing the games . A mix of high medium and low settings . I am seriously sick and tired of everyone just showing 1080p low settings .

  • @pitcheung5354
    @pitcheung5354 Год назад

    Taki take the Ally; Taki didn't get the dock!
    What did you think ASUS? Send it to him ASAP please!.

  • @CupOfNoodlesMusic
    @CupOfNoodlesMusic Год назад +1

    I dont know how, but your dialogue for bug testing *FC1* "PG mode" was hilarious 😂 great video, really hope they fix up the device bugginess and add some advanced tuning options, cause I actually really dig the layout and and attention to detail on the button placement/style and grippy materials.

    • @CupOfNoodlesMusic
      @CupOfNoodlesMusic Год назад

      Also, enjoy New Vegas! Great game, phenomenal mod community, too 👏

    • @kozakalex222222
      @kozakalex222222 Год назад +1

      It's far cry actually, but you're not entirely wrong. Far cry 1 is basically the crysis game before crysis

    • @CupOfNoodlesMusic
      @CupOfNoodlesMusic Год назад

      ​@Alexander Kozák lmao, you right 😅 early mornin to ya

  • @GlennThoughts
    @GlennThoughts Год назад

    No way Imma spend huge amount of money on such a joke of a product. Lol

  • @takashy87
    @takashy87 Год назад

    what's the brand/model of that RGB dock? XD
    having already a Steam deck I basically wonder how much of the stuff Deck owners have can be reused for the Ally, due to the higher power consumption. Like the official Deck dock should be able to hold it probably, but won't do the full power delivery just like most power banks / cables if people have gone for specific 45W ones rather than the 65(?) the Ally needs..

  • @babyboie20
    @babyboie20 Год назад

    I was trying to get that OmniDock that you have but I don't see one with 2 hdmi ports anywhere are the pictures for the amazon link incorrect and they do have 2 hdmi ports?

    • @TakiUdon
      @TakiUdon  Год назад

      www.kickstarter.com/projects/jsaux/omnicase-2-the-usb-c-hub-for-gamers-and-digital-nomads?ref=discovery
      It has 2 HDMI ports.

  • @chaikagaz
    @chaikagaz Год назад

    Glad i canceled my rog ally preorder. First its 760 dollars and second i heard windows is super buggy

  • @jakeparkinson8929
    @jakeparkinson8929 Год назад +1

    I'll wait for a freedos based handheld that uses a vortex86 cpu

  • @brandon_raby
    @brandon_raby Год назад +1

    Great review of the Ally. Hopefully they can get the bugs worked out before launch.
    Hope you are planning on doing an emulation video as well. I'm very curious to see how this will handle ps3 emulation.
    I can't wait to try Gundam Extreme VS Full Boost on it!

  • @gregoryvoutsas7903
    @gregoryvoutsas7903 Год назад

    Will some of the things that may be problems possibly fixable with eventual software updates?

  • @zaldronthesage
    @zaldronthesage Год назад +1

    Device is too broken to buy right now. Im so glad I did not preoder from Best Buy.

    • @TheSixthSLoT
      @TheSixthSLoT Год назад

      I don't think a lot of people are buying in on this devices review hype. To this day, you can just preorder one with no issue. Not a good sign for a big release.

  • @JR-kx3jr
    @JR-kx3jr Год назад

    Asus sucks at software, so I’m not optimistic that it won’t still be a buggy mess at launch.

  • @joesaiditstrue
    @joesaiditstrue Год назад

    Why the bleeping bleep does this have the same exact horrible black border around the screen that the steam deck has?

  • @zomg346
    @zomg346 Год назад

    They already updated armoury crate and it’s a lot better so even before launch they keep updating

  • @dgwdgw
    @dgwdgw Год назад

    AOKZOE state that the A1 Pro uses Hall effect joysticks on its Indiegogo page. Here, you say that the Ally is using "the same part"-does that mean Asus also sprung for Hall effect sticks, AOKZOE's A1 Pro igg page is wrong/lying, or you misspoke?

    • @TakiUdon
      @TakiUdon  Год назад +1

      I mean the underlying mechanical structure. This one doesn't use a hall sensor.

  • @HandheldHardware
    @HandheldHardware Год назад

    hoping my software can be the alternate that rog ally users need

  • @jvb4450
    @jvb4450 Год назад

    I like the bugs part, but you’re running the same games as all others. I want to see Rust on this

  • @MarkTengPhoto
    @MarkTengPhoto Год назад +1

    @taki udon The Ally charging dock (the one you have to buy) is actually combo USB hub and charger from what I've seen online. Obviously I don't have one yet since I am not as lucky as you haha, but it seems ASUS combined the dock functionality with a charger to make it more compact. However, I am personally just going to reuse my Steam Deck dock.

    • @Splackavellie85
      @Splackavellie85 Год назад

      Do you have a third party dock? Because I saw in other reviews that it doesn’t fit in the Valve dock

    • @jekrone1
      @jekrone1 Год назад

      Also the steam dock has less power then what ally needs

    • @MarkTengPhoto
      @MarkTengPhoto Год назад

      @@Splackavellie85 Yes, although, I am not 100% sure it will fit either. I guess only way to know is to wait until the release date.