Equation with Factorials

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  • Опубликовано: 4 окт 2024
  • One of my Patrons shared this with me, I thought it was neat. I do not know where it came from.

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  • @OilRig-1
    @OilRig-1 3 месяца назад +184

    A video about negative factorials would be exciting

    • @Mewhenthewhenthe-x7j
      @Mewhenthewhenthe-x7j 3 месяца назад +2

      Isn’t all negative factorials just 0? I am not sure what you mean by this

    • @filipeoliveira7001
      @filipeoliveira7001 3 месяца назад +16

      It would require an understanding of analytic continuation, integrals and overall calculus, something which I’m not sure would fit this channel

    • @cartatowegs5080
      @cartatowegs5080 3 месяца назад +15

      Interestingly enough, if you accept the gamma function as the continuation of the factorial, all negative integers are the only numbers that are undefined.

    • @cartatowegs5080
      @cartatowegs5080 3 месяца назад +6

      ​@user-bi3oc2jt4t the factorial function is undefined for all non natural numbers, but there is a function called the Gamma function that extends the factorial function to all numbers except for the negative integers.
      Lines that connect has a great video on this subject.

    • @Mewhenthewhenthe-x7j
      @Mewhenthewhenthe-x7j 3 месяца назад +2

      @@cartatowegs5080 Thank you, that’s actually a really cool channel

  • @rowrow_
    @rowrow_ 3 месяца назад +146

    Andy had to go but he came back super quick

  • @leahithink
    @leahithink 3 месяца назад +33

    okay, now we need a follow-up video about the gamma function

  • @FurbleBurble
    @FurbleBurble 3 месяца назад +19

    I don't know anything about negative factorials, so I think a video on that would be interesting. Also, and I've said this before but I want to say it again, I really appreciate that you go over all the steps and the relevant rules and theorems and what not. Thank you for providing these videos.

    • @Pyzzeen
      @Pyzzeen 3 месяца назад +1

      All I know about negative factorials is that every negative integer is undefined, so the only solutions that would exist are decimal solutions which would need the use of the Gamma Function

    • @themathhatter5290
      @themathhatter5290 3 месяца назад

      Well, let's think about it. How is the factorial defined? n!= n * (n-1) * (n-2) * ... 3 * 2 * 1, for some natural, positive number.
      It's easy to see how you can use this definition to get the next factorial: if (n+1)! = (n+1) * n *... 3 * 2 * 1, then (n+1)!=(n+1)*n!
      So let's see, just for fun, how we can use it to calculate the previous factorial. If we put in k-1=n everywhere, we get k!=k*(k-1)!, or rearranging, (k-1)!=(k!)/k.
      So what's the lowest factorial we know? 1. The sum of all numbers from 1 down to 1 is... 1. So what's the factorial before that? 0!=(1-1)!=(1!)/1=1/1=1. So 0!=1 which is... strange.
      Now, can we do it again? (-1)!=(0-1)!=(0!)/0=1/0. This is a problem: anything times zero is zero. If I have zero lots of a million dollars, I have zero dollars. So zero lots of any amount, no matter how big the amount, will never add up to 1. Dividing by zero is a contradiction to how we understand 0 to operate under multiplication.
      Now, you could try to be clever and say, "well as numbers get smaller, their inverse gets bigger, so the answer is infinity", but that's not true. For one, infinity is a limit; as you do something over and over again, what do you approach? In this case it's unbounded. But more importantly, 1/(-1)=-1

    • @powerzx
      @powerzx 3 месяца назад

      @@themathhatter5290 Why division anything by 0 isn't just equal to 0?

  • @anorris7
    @anorris7 3 месяца назад +8

    Quicker is to multiply the first term by p/p in the first step rather than all terms by p!. You bring the first term to the same denominator as the others this way, which is more intuitive.

  • @fortnitevideo7658
    @fortnitevideo7658 3 месяца назад +36

    Please make a video about negative factorials

  • @drakkondarkspell
    @drakkondarkspell 3 месяца назад +12

    A video about negative factorials? How exciting!

  • @GlorifiedTruth
    @GlorifiedTruth 3 месяца назад +11

    Oh, man, I got this one in a heartbeat. Finally!

  • @paulvansommeren
    @paulvansommeren 3 месяца назад +15

    2:30 i'm pretty sure Andy really had to p

  • @pie8021
    @pie8021 3 месяца назад +8

    A negative factorials video would be interesting!

  • @pyroinfernia
    @pyroinfernia 3 месяца назад +15

    Gamma Function 😊

    • @ElderEagle42
      @ElderEagle42 3 месяца назад +5

      Wouldn't work since it's not defined for negative integers

    • @Friendly-Neighborhood-Asexual
      @Friendly-Neighborhood-Asexual 3 месяца назад

      ​@@ElderEagle42 not defined for any integers less than or equal to 0

  • @jakubl8271
    @jakubl8271 3 месяца назад +5

    3:10 - you cancelled 4! only to get it back as a common denominator few seconds later.

  • @QuillPGall
    @QuillPGall 3 месяца назад +1

    i’d love some negative factorial stuff. anything that fucks around with the gamma function is fire

  • @EthanEthan-ml3oj
    @EthanEthan-ml3oj 2 месяца назад +1

    well using the knownledge about positive integers it seems to be every multiple of a said integer, also it might be similar to when a negative number is raised to a positive number ex: -5^2 = -25 and (-5)^2 = 25 so it would be like -5! = -120 and (-5)! = 120

  • @rupom_1670
    @rupom_1670 3 месяца назад +3

    Andy yes please tell us about negative factorials
    (Also can you explain why the 'x!' in desmos has a graph for all real values of x)

  • @Grassmpl
    @Grassmpl 3 месяца назад

    Fatorial is undefined for negative integers. For general complex numbers use the gamma function.

  • @henrygoogle4949
    @henrygoogle4949 3 месяца назад +1

    That editing is top tier.

  • @ИскандерЖалилов
    @ИскандерЖалилов 2 месяца назад

    It is fun to see the graph of this equation , it has intersections with X axis on every negative integers but -3

  • @skssknowledge4770
    @skssknowledge4770 3 месяца назад

    Brother you are fabulous! 👏👌👌👌👍🙌🙌

  • @Nicoya
    @Nicoya 3 месяца назад

    Negative integer factorials are a little tricky. They are, by all reasonable definitions, undefined. However, you can, under certain circumstances, manipulate them algebraically to get a sensible, defined answer. For example if you take n

  • @Qermaq
    @Qermaq 3 месяца назад

    Here's a fun geometry problem you will love. Start with a 30-60-90 triangle with short leg 1. Construct a 1/6-circle centered at the 60-degree vertex and inside the triangle. Finally, add a semicircle whose diameter is along the long leg of the triangle and which is tangent to the hypotenuse and the 1/6-circle. Find its radius.
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    It's an elegant mess, BTW. (2sqrt(3)+1-2sqrt(sqrt(3)+1))/3.

  • @matesafranka6110
    @matesafranka6110 3 месяца назад +1

    As I understand, there is an extension of the factorial function that has a broader domain, but it only includes noninteger negatives, so it still wouldn't help here.

  • @danpliska924
    @danpliska924 3 месяца назад +2

    hi andy. welcome back

  • @petrouchkita0000
    @petrouchkita0000 3 месяца назад +1

    how did you came back that quickly😮😮, btw a guy named 'Lines that connects' made a video abt factorials

  • @deniseockey6204
    @deniseockey6204 3 месяца назад

    Negative factorials would be interesting. I have never done that before.

  • @BPDidntDoIt
    @BPDidntDoIt 3 месяца назад +4

    Negative factorials

  • @reeb3687
    @reeb3687 3 месяца назад

    finally some easy mental math questions

  • @joeschmo622
    @joeschmo622 3 месяца назад

    Oooh, let's do The Gamma Function!!

  • @KeithJDavies
    @KeithJDavies 3 месяца назад

    A little faster if you make your first step "multiply p/(p-1)! by p/p". This gives pp/p! - 13/p! = (p-1)/p!. Then multiply the entire thing by p!, giving pp - 13p = p - 1. Then continue from there.

  • @granitetile
    @granitetile 3 месяца назад

    Video on negative factorials please

  • @RudraNarayanan-bt9yl
    @RudraNarayanan-bt9yl 3 месяца назад

    yes, please make a video about negative factorials

  • @DeadCarrot949
    @DeadCarrot949 3 месяца назад +1

    Make a video about negative factorials

  • @swapnilthorat
    @swapnilthorat 3 месяца назад

    Now I know why simple mathematics

  • @im_zinc
    @im_zinc 3 месяца назад

    that was fun

  • @Arizona-t1l
    @Arizona-t1l 3 месяца назад

    Please make a negative factorial video

  • @mitchellely6568
    @mitchellely6568 3 месяца назад

    What do you use to make your videos? The animation seems too smooth for ppt

  • @andyjosten8611
    @andyjosten8611 3 месяца назад

    It’s really sexy that you can do math

  • @tsjbb
    @tsjbb 3 месяца назад

    where did you go

  • @andygalvez9943
    @andygalvez9943 3 месяца назад

    I know nothing about factorials. But seems cool.

  • @harriehausenman8623
    @harriehausenman8623 3 месяца назад

    Does analytic continuation count as simple math? 🤔

  • @hassanawdi3793
    @hassanawdi3793 3 месяца назад

    3:48 he said 16-3 is 3 😂😂😂

  • @ryanf4497
    @ryanf4497 3 месяца назад

    I'm curious about negative factorials. Make the video!

  • @michaellacaria910
    @michaellacaria910 3 месяца назад

    Don’t want to be negative but a negative factorial video would be nice!

  • @chenbest
    @chenbest 3 месяца назад

    make a video about newton's method @AndyMath

  • @tortinwall
    @tortinwall 3 месяца назад

    And while we’re on the subject of non-intuitive factorials, what about a video of non-integer factorials?

  • @transrightsbaybee
    @transrightsbaybee 3 месяца назад

    eye dd ths n my head : )

  • @zaj007
    @zaj007 3 месяца назад

    I got it once I remembered that factorial is about multiplication not addition

  • @jgalliera
    @jgalliera 3 месяца назад +1

    p=(-3) is still a solution, because earlier you followed through with being able to eliminate all of the factorials, so the resulting equation is only a f(p). Plugging in p=(-3), I get 9 - 13 = -4, which is true. 🙂

    • @povijarrro
      @povijarrro 3 месяца назад

      No equations p/(p-1)!-13/p!=(p-1)/p! and p^2-13=p-1 are equivalent if and only if all members are defined. Even if considered p! as gamma(p+1) it is undefined for negative integers

  • @Qermaq
    @Qermaq 3 месяца назад

    2:30 He had to go p

  • @chrishelbling3879
    @chrishelbling3879 3 месяца назад

    3:50 sixteen minus thirteen, not sixteen minus three. Yes, I am "that guy." :D However, you are correct, "mush" is the correct mathematical term, I think I read it in Euclid's Elements. Just teasing, another great video. Oops, I have to go away for a moment...

  • @yaseenelhosseiny
    @yaseenelhosseiny Месяц назад

    P=4

  • @MrSirvelin
    @MrSirvelin 3 месяца назад

    3:49 sixteen minus three is equal to three!