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As a tank main for over 6 years I noticed one thing about Mauga, he rewards extremely aggressive play styles that result in large wins, a high risk, high reward type of gameplay, as you may die pushing the team but if you do then the whole team has no choice but to target you, having two supports to back you up and pocket you only means you have the chance to take out all of their dps and supports before going after the tank
That does sound like something mauga would do...
@@jackiejackyjaqy...7219yeah, I thought the same thing, they did a good job of putting his personality into his playstyle lol
And then you get anti-naded... Oh Overwatch
@@anonymalland then Kiriko cleanses the anti
@@Looneguyand then the Junkerqueen ults you
The problem with him is that the supports has no choice but to heal him only
Yeah I played him twice during the free trial and that’s what I noticed,no armor means I can’t midigate damage or take room without a shit ton of healing
@@rockyadams2825his life steal gives you 60% life leech and dmg reduction for you and your team.
@@retro3856 I mean it’s really good but that’s more useful as a way yo keep the dps up while the support is healing you
On the support side I did have to literally focus heal him, which means i'm ONLY doing that, but mostly b/c every Mauga I played with charged out into a volley of gunfire. As Mauga I had to pick my fights, while trying to take space.
@@lewissmith4602me and my friend we’re playing together swapping the tank role and when I was support and he was tank that’s all I did
This certainly aged well.
Also what I noticed when he was available, is that sojourn counters literally everything in his kit. She can dodge his charge, get above him, farm her railgun on him, and not even mentioning she makes his health bar evaporate
Exactly the one game I did play with him and sojourn was gate keeping me. Now it was one game and an extremely small sample size but I do feel like sojourn will be the reason he is meta or not
Widowmaker also makes him lose 300 health so easily. He really needed some armor, his charge to cleanse debuffs on top of healing whenever he hits people with it and his aura to last longer.
Also soldier counter him heavily. Soldier basically doesn't miss a shot on Mauga. When I played Mauga against soldier, I couldn't peek at all, I had to rely on my dps to kill soldier first otherwise, I was died in 2 sec.
@@manlaimax1804at least Bastions are now weak compared to Mauga
@@manlaimax1804It's so easy to land nearly an entire mag of headshots with Soldier on Mauga lol. I play on PC as a GM, but I suspect even bronze players will be farming headshots off the guy. He needs something more (aside from a Bio nerf)
Hello flats, im from the future.
Mauga is buffed now, and now is busted, as strong as season 1 zarya
Funny thing is he says he would shake anything unless his stats were heavily padded, then his stats were heavily padded and he shoke everything up.
Wierd thing I realized with Mauga, you don't need to run in and trap enemies with your ult. You could just use it midrange from enemies cause you basically have a shield wall with unli ammo. And I mainly use the trapping part for the enemy supports(hopefully not an ana) and maul them down. Enemies can try saving their allies but will also get trapped and by then the supports are pretty much dead. Best way the enemies save their supports is entering the wall with ult
if you drop it from above you can escape it too. chance for some funny interactions with blades, echo copies etc. There are a lot of ways to utillize it.
I guess but you’d be playing out of your optimal range in that situation which honestly is probably just a waste of an ult, i’m sure it would still have its applications situationally though
If Echo transformed into Mauga farmed alt dropped it right before transformation ran out could she leave it after she turns back?
@@ganbitx2391 nope, disappears, once played echo, copied ashe, launched bob and bob vanished before it hit anyone, same with dva ult
@@babylon1695 not really. Let's say defending payload while pushing it, you could place it, do that classic pirate ship strat. They need to stop you by entering the wall, entering means your commiting to kill the Mauga, commitment needs the supports inside also because the only supports that can heal you from outside the walls is zen, bap at high angle and Moira orbs or ult. Maybe you can communicate with mercy to only heal you before you enter that way you won't get cut off. But the moment supports enter, they are 1st priority to kill for Mauga.
It's crazy how Mauga was okay when he was free to try, but when they buffed him for some reason he totally shook up the whole game.
Idk why but when Mauga ults i just hear "YOU CHALLENGE MAKOA?!?!"
love you for this
😂😂😂
@@edgyneerstill is, if paladins had the budget of ow, it would be better than ow and imma die on that hill
I'm an avid TF2 player and Mauga feels like he should be played similarly to Heavy from TF2 with the Huo-Long Heater. Poke people from a distance, shred people up close. If they're on fire, kill them before they get put out. If you go in too far you're dead. Use his charge as a disengagement tool because you will get slept, discorded, slammed, stunned, headshot, etc bc you've got one of the biggest hitboxes in the game
Well that backfired
Honestly Flats can go on and on. He can explain every Mauga phenomenon
Underrated comment fr
I see what you did there
What do you mean?
Ah yes fats, the guy who claims the game is dead and simultaneously it's back within one day of each other
The guy is an idiot
His fans are worse
i think they just need to make his incendiary minigun more consistent in setting smaller hitbox heroes on fire, this not only make him reliable for poking in medium and long ranges against snipers or enemies that is far away in general. this also let him gain temp hp easier and finish off lone enemies quicker
Two ideas I have is:
1.Make Gunny's bullets have a slightly larger hitbox
Or 2. Make Gunny have a tiny AoE damage that also procs ignited status, but the damage is significantly reduced for the splash damage
Cha Cha is crit based, so changing that would be broken, so a bit of skill is there to balance
They could also decrease the rev up time for his guns so he can switch between the two guns at mid range more smoothly.
oh no flats what have you done
Just blast “you’re welcome” at full volume in the background. Makes Maui stronger
So this isn’t a tank problem. It’s a support problem is what I’m hearing 😅
Nah this all proves that genji needs a nerf he gets to many kills with ult 1 is to many in my opinion
If supports were bad mauga would still be bad
@@iexist2145nah 0 kills is too many. He needs to start getting -5 kills with every ult use.
No maugas kit is just kinda bad outside of his ult. Like flats said his slam isn't even that good and actually gets you killed a lot. You can't burn anyone cause you just die instantly because he has no shield or resistance abilities. And his only healing ability has the same problem as his burning ability. He can't peak anyone for more than two seconds. Honestly I think everything outside of his ult was just poorly thought out since he can't tank or even DPS which is what he was supposed to do. DPS tank.
As always
"He's like roadhog without a self heal"
Excuse me?
this was old
Look at how this aged
He’s the king of “I have way more dps than my dps and they die a ton because both supports are stuck on me”
He does have self sustain But roadhogs breather is soooo much better cause with his passive you have to land crits in order to restore your health and his e is good but not Really for him more so for his team if they want him to be Good a actual tank contender they gotta fix that as well as what flats said too
Its baffling that ability doesnt also apply to himself. Like that's like if zaryas bubbles were only made for her team and she couldnt bubble herself. Makes no sense to give a tank ability that only lets others be tanks but not himself too, especially since its an AOE.
@@isaacargesmith8217 does it not effect him if not wow
The foreshadowing goes so hard
I think he needs like overhealth (scaling with missing HP) or uncontested healing when he uses overdrive. The problem with meatwall tanks is they get countered so easilty if the they dont have some immideate way to keep their HP effective (sheild, fat heal) they tried to go for resists here, but 30% just isnt enough, would have to be at least 50%, and we know how that would go.
They could add a mechanic where he can cleanse himself with his shout thingy, even if he's stunned or asleep.
At least it would stop Ana from being so oppressive against him.
most tanks need a way to deal with that stuff honestly.
@@isaacargesmith8217especially ball and hog. Not having any counterplay to stuns is 😴😴😴😴😴😴😴😴
As a Doomfist main, I hope we get some buff to accompany us being chained to Mauga's ult, the only thing Doom can do in Mauga's ult is block and cry in the corner.
Yeah in freeforall I was able to kill a road hog with doomfist just gotta watch his chain and aim for his head for more damage that healing will make difficult tho
I actually don't thing the stats need to be increases at all. Only thing I would do to him is give some armor or shield health and then get ride of the boop on the charge, maybe replace with a short burn effect.
I think all of us, including Flats, could agree on this. But I will say that he does need some tweaks to his stats.
@bobtehdinosaur5622 I mean, it seems mauga is mostly balanced, he does need a small buff, here are some of my ideas for buffs:
Smaller hitbox size (obviously)
Less speed penalty when using guns
Slight damage increase for charge
Maybe some armour, like 100
I don't think he needs anything else, I have another idea for a buff but I can't remember it right now.
@@Manicboy8 and like flats mentioned, they should remove the fact that the charge boops you upwards if you hit them directly. It's literally counterintuitive to the functionality of the ability and punishes you for being accurate. I wouldn't mind if I sent them backwards, but upwards is just stupid. Idk who thought that was a good idea, considering that you have to land on top of them for the ability to even get any value lol. He's a fun and well designed character, but he doesn't have much utility outside of his ult.
Mauga is both the tank dream and nightmare fully realised. When you’re being productive and getting kills you feel like an unstoppable force but you also then get the hammer of counter swaps and an entire teams focus of damage and cooldowns dropped on your head.
Personally I think the charge should be reworked to not boop people up but further horizontally so that when you do hit someone dead on you land directly on them when you jump and maybe give him a bit more range so he isn’t forced to play so up close to get any value because otherwise you draw so much damage you need both supports pumping as much healing as possible up your ass to not just fall over in half a second. The kit is unbelievably fun when it works but it’s so complex that the slightest disruption throws it off entirely and without the craze causing constant mirror matches people are going to find out quickly just how easy it is to throw him off.
It’s funny how “he’s complex” is now just out damage the other tank, and that’s legit the best way to play him
i think mauga is scary balance wise in tank matchups but is fine against the rest of the team. He has the most ranged dmg, great close range dmg, and self healing. not many tanks have that. like mauga vs rien mauga can break shield without having to reload once.
He was hard to go against until we figured out how to counter him
Roadhog can’t eat a bastion like that though
He could've back in his prime, his damage mitigation was actually insane back in his prime in overwatch 2 and his damage up close was amazing as well, he definitely wouldn't one shot a bastion but he'd chew through him pretty fast in his buffed state
I love how this was alot of ppls take. And mine was "hes gnna get buffed" dont even play OW anymore, but I knew once he got put up as a pay to play hero, he was gnna be absolutely broken.
This video did not age well lol. Mauga is broken as fuck at the moment
It did age well though, the only reason he's so good is because they omega buffed his stats like Flats said
His ultimate is insane hahaha
I think blizzard decided they wanted a movement shooter 6 years after release and are now backtracking, making tanks suffer in the meantime
The movement isnt really the issue, and really the game actively punishes movement WAY more than most multiplayer "movement shooters" by a long shot. Paladins actively lets you use stuff to make stuns lose their effectiveness, tf2 doesnt really have a lot of croud control outside of pyro and sentries just blocking areas off due to their absurd damage, even dying games like the excellent Gundam Evolution doesnt have anywhere near as many stun effects by comparison. OW has so many things to just stop movement characters and a lot of movement, like junk's mines for example, tends to be kind of binary in what it does on top of that too so that makes it harder to deal with said hinders and stuns and slows due to the lack of options to avoid them with that movement.
I forgot what the video was called but it was a Mauga character thing
This guy was completely original this was a couple years ago
So basically Mauga had a charge and if you were accurate with the charge you would grab who ever you charged and slam them
If you missed you just charged and slam
It seems like a good idea
Well this was just a test for him wasn't it
I don't think anyone knows how to actually play him yet. I do think he needs some slight buffs, but he's definitely a feast or famine character that's both opposition and team dependent. Like if they have Ana you have to have a Kiriko pocket. Life Weaver is also big in a match with/against him.
problem is that his kit incentivizes him to do one of the worst things for him (and also the only real option if he wants to play) which is jumping into the enemy team head first. onces hes there hes got nothing but a self heal to protect himself with and only a charge that you probably used to get in there to get back out with.
Fun as hell character, but so easily board wiped unless he sits in back firing one gun at a time pretending to be soldier (or worse ive seen.. widow). if he sits far back his kit doesnt get used, if he runs up front if he's anti'd with no kiri to cleanse him immediately he dies.
RoadHog is good whenever.
If it's a bad game, just bully the supports for the entire game.
Especially the tracer or zen.
Then, either 3 things will happen.
1. Entire enemy team will hunt you down meaning your helpful to your team.
2. They rage quit.
3. They swap off for you to continue bullying them. Making the first two options repeatable.
Funny how the doom kept trying to get the maugas attention
Honestly? I love Magua’s high risk high reward playstyle. He’s great for pushing hard defense lines, and punishing enemies who misstep
They need to buff the slam bc it literally just makes it so you can’t shoot but doesn’t help whatsoever, also some sort of small shield
I believe his charge makes him immune to being slept so you want to watch for it and charge as a counter.
I think if maugas burn was activated on the first shot rather than taking a second to ignite the flames + the flames lasting longer he would have more mid-far range annoyance and helps his sustain from his passive.
Little did he know…
You see, I've played him a bunch already. I think that he will be like Rein in a way, he won't be used a lot in top 500 because of how easy it is for him to be countered, but he will be used a lot in low ranks due to his simple mechanics. I have brought this up in a previous video, (this is something that most people may not care about), but I believe that he will be highly effective in open queue. Mauga, as a tank by himself, kind of sucks, but if you put with 1 or 2 other tanks, he turns his team into a brick wall. That's my thoughts.
Just level with me. For a second. 6v6. Mauga. Off-tank. Have a nice day. :)
I feel like mauga will definitely be a counter towards orisa, as he can crit while they're on fire. however I didn't play him too much during the test so I could be wrong
Mauga ult plus junkrat ult is very very funny though
he is what the game needs. when i played him there was palpable tension moment to moment. no more lazy mercy, no more lazy ana, no more lazy bap
an issue i have is that blizz is okay with releaseing busted healers and dps but a tank comes out and they're usually mediocre on release.
You’re supposed to time your slam to land on them, not charge right into them. That’s why they’re flying directly in the air
I'm just here for the Mii Plaza music
Yeah first thing I noticed was “oh I get countered by Zarya Ana like every tank”
Zar counters like one and a half tanks?
This explains baptise whole kit it focuses mauga
He's amazing when uncountered. Playing into 1 counter is a fair fight. Playing into 2 counters is difficult but doable if you play disciplined and smart. Playing into 3 counters... You might as well go stand in the corner in spawn. You'll be just as helpful to your team.
I feel like if they buff his charge to do a little bit more damage and maybe increase his passive he would be fine. Damage on the charge means that you can kill enemies that are being pocketed faster and increased health on the passive means he can work around anti nade easier. 100% I can see Mauga rush comps with kiriko being really good, like a jq rush but different.
I really wish they would just make tanks resistant to stuns and Ana cool downs. Like there is no reason an anti should last as long as it does on a tank as a dps
This is so accurate & accurate what I thought when playing him. I was always dead 😅
Well I certainly can’t wait to play him even if every one thinks he’s gonna suck
Mauga's weapon is like bastion on steroids lmao
Ah fun, the rare concept slept on to instead chase good. I hope for more fun I’m the future cuz I had a good time being a off brand space marine vomiting bullets at the enemy
Biggest problem I noticed is even with his little bit of self heals, he needs a LOT of support investment so he doesn’t get instantly deleted
I think a viable comp would be a mauga, sombra, soldier, ana n kiriko. Since mauga needs 90% of all the support and utilty the team has that means the dps must have high survivabilty which both sombra and soldier have. Also maugas ult has a very great synergy with other heroes on this comp, pair it with sombra everthing is on the brink of death, kiriko or ana he just becomes a raid boss. Keep in mind this comp only works if you have a very coordinated team.
Hm maybe they should add another tank that could support the other tanks! Maybe it could even free up the tanks to play more freely and not get focused fired as much!
Bruh if you butt slam on peoples head it Crits and stuns them like a sigma rock. It’s actually op af especially if you call out cardiac overdrive and your team runs ahead of you.
I'm just glad that we finally got a tank that can do something about mercy/pharah/echo
During a mirror match you can pull him out the enemy cage with Life Weaver and I was like YAAAAAAAAAAAASSSSSSSSSSSSS!
Hard AF to heal him when he wants to go off on his own but a smart tank with a Zenny/Ana and a Bap/LW/Mercy seems to be the play.
Ram, Zen & Reaper are a good trio for aggressive pushes but when Mauga comes out I find it safer to just switch to Sigma even with his shield regen nerf.
You leave my heavy tf2 alone
The problem with Mauga is he needs a second tank to back him up. Mauga was designed during OW1 and it shows. He plays like an off tank.
Once people learn him and team comps that match him I think he can be pretty good. One thing I noticed in my game is he can insta die faster than a charging Reinhardt into an enemy team lol I felt I had I to heal him nonstop but I think that has a lot to do with people still learning how to properly play him.
Damn maui is in every game i play😂 first smite now OW... What can i say except you welcome
They just need to add more hero’s, like a lot more. You can only do so much to nerfing/buffing a hero until they become either unplayable or just broken, or just do a whole rework
Showing him 1v1 Bob was super misleading
They should give his self heal a meter that fills up while he’s doing damage. And when the meter gets to a certain threshold he gets fortified.
so many times better than giving him fortify charge
Mauga gets countered by every dps but at least there is no tank that as a chance against him, but he still needs a buff on his charge
He does kinda feel like a worse hog since ana is his biggest weakness. My first game on as mauga the first round was fine, but by the second round their support swapped ana and id get slammed by their mauga, when id get up id get slept, then by the time id get up from that id get antied and die. If i was lucky enough for them to miss the nade then id still be trying to keep myslef up at 75 hp and my mercy was only dmg boosting the entire match. And as im keeping myself up id get hit with a stray junkrat bomb and die. Then my second match i had a junkrat running around me which it was hard af to see him and keep track of him while having to deal with their mauga too. Not to mention my kiriko legit ran into their team throwing kunai and when she got her ult she just ulted herself and not the team. Quickplay sucks but it shouldnt be this unbalanced
Can someone explain why Flats equates Mauga to Roadhog? Is it their playstyle or just their giant hitboxes? Their weapons and abilities are completely different...
it's cuz mauga and roadhog tank a shit ton of damage and self heal a shit ton of damage
Damage Oriented Big Meaty boys.
Junker Queen can also be grouped in with them to be honest, she has been compared as a small roadhog before.
Biggest thing they all share is their Healthpool.
It's just Health, no shields no armor, just health. So they all have self-sustain in some form, but Roadhog's being a standalone heal that doesn't need enemies being damaged makes his the best by default.
They are both tanks with only hp and massive hitbox who's only real way of tanking is a self heal that gets nuked by ana
Personal opinion they should nerf his damage however they should buff the amount of overhealth from crits and decrease his ult charge cost
He will definitely shine in the hands of people with immaculate aim... but yeah, the lack of real shields gives him ALL of roadhogs issues, and even if he is landing all his shots I doubt he is going to outheal both dps, not counting the enemy tank and supports... unless they die. Like I said, in the right hands and he gets the easy picks first, he'll be great. high ceiling low floor I think.
I don't know about everyone else but it felt at least to me that mauga was kinda busted especially with cardiac overdrive, that ability would allow him to survive a rip-tire to the face and hed only lose half hp
"I get punished for being accurate on my pins" if you were being accurate you'd land the jump on them instead. 😅
Between Mauga charge and Roadies new Pigpen. Hitting accurately is now apparently the wrong thing for tanks going forward?
Making his ult unhackable by sombra would be great. It felt like sombra could get two ults farmed in the time I got 1 ult, always being able to counter it. Making her way to strong as a counter
The fact he beats bastion assault in less than a second just says how overpowered he is. The only things that counter him are high Mobility hero’s, every support cuz they still have got the proper nerfs, and another mauga
you can use a sym tp to get your entire team out of mauga's ultimate
I got yelled at by a Mauga for playing D.va. She does a great job of countering his passive.
he’s literally a meat shield and will be good as long as support characters stay broken
He would be a neat tank for 6v6 🙃
They need to make a character that completely switches up how you play the game as a whole like they did with brig. That is the only way I see anything changing it overwatch Quickplay, or competitive, the dig dug bitch is gonna be great.
Mauga is gonna be Doomfist 2.0 for supports. Hard to keep alive unless they’re good or the supports have godly abilities and game sense, constantly breaking los, always needs healing, will peek the enemy at 2hp WHILE you’re trying to heal, and will always blame the supports for not healing while ignoring if they were being healed while they died, were anti’d, etc.
I feel like theres alot you can do with his ult even if you dont get a kill they are trapped in there even if they kill you
First game with mauga and it seems like you can be much more dominant than roadhog
He’s fire
His charge also inconsistent sometime i get knock down sometime i just boop people
The slam needs a burn and stun proc without launching people, his heal boost needs to heal him too, he needs armor, his Ult is fine. Mauga is GREAT but he needs like the tiniest tweaks to be amazing.
This aged well
funny that the ultimate is another cc and yet it's the best part of his kit
In a mauga mirror match he is a resource drain for supports. Like I hear you dps u need healing but MaUgA
Seems like a support balance issue CRAZY HOW THAT WORKS HUH
WEIRD
Mauga was the chance to show the 6v6 guys wrong and how 5v5 tanking in the future was going to be fun and engaging. Except Mauga amplifies all the issues in 5v5. Having to be pockets by 2 healers, No agency, Have to eat everything from enemy team, low impact, and easilly and heavily countered to the point of unplayable. Good job Blizz .
He's too powerful. You will get your ass beaten every time