The integrated bar/stem only comes on the highest end 9.9’s. They know that actual riders don’t care for them, but they look real nice in the showroom and are a good selling point for people with too much coin
Looks great but seems like a really bizarre choice to put a XC-style one piece bar on an enduro bike. Bars are the first thing I change on my bikes, and this means having to find a stem too.
If you take a closer look at the riding shots (e.g. 03:51), the bar-stem combo is gone. It's really only for the showroom... Edit: and at 03:50 you can actually see the multitool come loose 🤣
I fondly remember riding the original Slash at a dealer day and being able to keep up with colleagues on Sessions. I’ve had a soft spot for the Slash ever since (though have never owned one).
Looks good, but I like that the down tube guard on the previous gen covered the WHOLE down tube, and not just part of it. Also, not a fan of those one piece bar/stem.
@@m4tt12 that solves that then! Not sure if that system works with any stem but I'd be swapping that whole cockpit about regardless of how it performed. That fixed bar/stem combo isn't for me!
Looks good but I’ll stick to the direct brands that have better price to spec ratio and they are starting to get better with customer service and also LBSs are really welcoming them and working on them
Most Trek shops will match a similarly spec'd DTC bike. It might not be exactly the same price, but my local shop has come within $300 or so of similarly spec'd bikes from Canyon.
Because this years thing is better than last years better thing. So, in short, this years better thing > last years better thing. Thanks for coming to my "This years better thing Ted Talk."
I really like this. If only I had a spare 10K sitting around 😂 On an unrelated note, I always find it strange to see dudes riding with no gloves. I can't imagine doing that. Maybe because I grew up racing MX, I dunno.
I'll put this here... none of this is 'new' BUT coming out of the bicycle battle of manufactuers over the last 10 years - it seemingly is Trek and Specialized that have emerged as the overall big bike company winners and for good reason - good quality, good value and a very close to boutique level of internal componentry coming from Bontrager or Roval/Specialized. I think they will never push the envelope on R&D, but play the fast follow to the popular boutiques - Evil, Pivot, Transition, Santa Cruz, IBIS, Yeti etc.. to then bring in a less-polarizing flavor of the next tech (hi-pivot here) to the market. To note, I am now convinced Trek's bontrager components are every bit as good as RF, We are One, OneUp etc.. and they are big enough to really back up their warranty and provide a 30 day return gaurantee. 2 shops I spoke to, have expressed that they have had the least amount of issues with their carbon wheels and the hubs, which have as much engagement points as a iNine, hope, RF vault etc. Well also all know Specialized is every bit as good and people gravitate to their saddles, grips and even rubber. Also when it comes to the latest gen of these gravity end of Enduros... thats what they are... Enduro race purpose bikes. They do that well. Fireroad up, and KOM on the way down. I just do not believe you get to enjoy the purity of the ride when you take them on flow, climb off camber, tight uphill switch backs or IMO anything in the saddle. I think that there is a place to scale back some geo on the mid-travel bikes, such that you retain most capability, while still having a weighted front end for better steerability through fork trail for flatter, on the saddle handling. I rode my friend's Large (s4) 2020 27.5 Stumpy on a black/blue flow trail, where it was not just a climb up to get down, and found that the still slack 65 deg front end, but with a bit longer 442 rear end and 445 reach, was more appropiate than the Geo on my much longer Norco sight, which is NOW small compared to the Range, Druids etc.. anyways. my two cents. Amazing bike I'm certain, but like the other HP enduros, I think its like those 130+ underfoot skis... very purpose oriented and further from being a single quiver in the gargae
Single and slightly high/mid-pivot, steel, 63.5 ha, rs dl ultimate coil with the hydraulic bottom out. Sends it on the downs, the jumps. Still comfortable to pedal around on flat ground. Simple but strong!
This video was great, the b roll while the presenter was talking was awesome. It looked like a lot of the trails I ride at home. Not sure if it was the presenter but the bike looked tiny on him lol. Worth mentioning that for some reason al of the big new bikes this year came out in some kind of green. I would rather see some fun colors on these big new bikes, it would make them more exciting and invoke party/goodtime vibes.
Can you make an honest unbiased comparison of Gen 6 slash vs gen 5? Time to show why Latest isn't always better......and I believe the gen 5 slash with it's exclusive shock is still better for all around all mountain Enduro riding.
@@cloudkapYeah but apparently everyone on MTB comments sections likes to inflate some old rubbish they read on a forum or one mate said he heard from someone else if it means they can whinge about something 😂
Hi-Pivot is such an over hyped feature. Most riders in the world will never notice what it does. This simply a new trend so bike companies actually have something to add to new models
@@TeamCykelhold 10mm more travel and an idler pulley, not different enough to justify a whole other E-mtb model. Spoke to a Trek brand rep last year he said the reason they stopped making the remedy is that it was too similar to the rest of their bikes, and didn’t really stand apart. With that philosophy I wouldn’t expect to see a slash-e but who knows.
I hate how Trek always makes you buy the $9000+ build just to get the better suspension parts (ultimate vs select). The value equation is awful and Trek's do not seem to hold value like more boutique brands in the same price bracket. Looks like a great bike though.
Losing faith in these reviews and first impression videos. I'd like to see someone ride it harder and faster - look at how the Revolution Bike mag boys ride. The slow mo edit makes up for a lake of good riding.
Modern bikes are getting very porky, I had a 2017 trek slash 9.8 and it weighed 14kg with pedals, this new version which is also the next model up weighs 16.5kg, 2 and a half kg heavier, not to mention its more expensive than a brand new suzuki rmz 450 motocross bike, damn.
$9400? When will people stop paying motorcycle prices for MTB's? Who can afford this shit? Unless you work in the bike industry and get a massive discount or you're a dentist, who else is buying this?
there are definitely people that come in and just buy these rowdy expensive bikes. but yeah you nailed it on the head. employee discount for trek is 50%
Cancel the Remedy to push people into the slash. Change the slash because people want the Remdy. Use proprietary shit like Specialized. Push long time customers into another brand. Thanks Trek.
@@Alex-xt9hn well the OP has just compared two completely different products used for different things with no context… I was simply trying to add context.
Can they make a bike more complicated? What’s with the handlebars? Gonna cost you even more if you don’t like the setup. 9400 +. I could buy a used vehicle and a new bike for that kinda cash.
The integrated bar/stem only comes on the highest end 9.9’s. They know that actual riders don’t care for them, but they look real nice in the showroom and are a good selling point for people with too much coin
8:00 you can see the bits tool pop up😂 sick bike tho
😅 good pickup!
😂😅
Lol
8:00 That tool in the steerer tube is on its way out!
I had one but it kept self ejecting in rock gardens. Great idea, terrible design. Oneup one stays in the steerer tube better
Looks great but seems like a really bizarre choice to put a XC-style one piece bar on an enduro bike. Bars are the first thing I change on my bikes, and this means having to find a stem too.
Those bars are fucking hideous
Only if you’re buying the very highest end, those handlebars look very nice in the showroom you know what I mean 🤣
The bar-stem combo is for all the weight conscious riders trying to save every ounce on their 36-1/2 lb enduro..😂😂😂
If you take a closer look at the riding shots (e.g. 03:51), the bar-stem combo is gone. It's really only for the showroom...
Edit: and at 03:50 you can actually see the multitool come loose 🤣
@@emoritz4, well spotted on the spring loaded multitool.
I fondly remember riding the original Slash at a dealer day and being able to keep up with colleagues on Sessions. I’ve had a soft spot for the Slash ever since (though have never owned one).
Yay! Trek hasn't gone headset cable routing 👏
trek putting out some absolute bangers these days
People have been having nothing but issues out of the idlers on these bikes.
Bike looks sick but the paint job on Dario’s helmet 🔥
I literally hated how trek looked but this may have changed my mind to be honest. It looks so nice.
That top tube is finally lining up with the seat stay. IMO that's why Transition Bikes are so attractive.
It’s exactly the opposite for me I loved the old old design but I hate the new design with the 2 idler wheels
I have same feeling
How it feels vs the old one?
Looks so nice
Great color
Looks good, but I like that the down tube guard on the previous gen covered the WHOLE down tube, and not just part of it. Also, not a fan of those one piece bar/stem.
And it was attached, which behaves well. In the one now you can see the bolts and to me it looks ugly
@@elinteriore I prefer the bolts. The protector on my 2022 Slash came off due to the adhesive being weak and I had to double-sided tape it back on.
I'm sure this bike rides better than before but the high pivot looks hideous IMO
Agreed, good lord it's ugly.
Also agreed
I'm still riding the original 29 slash and it's still a brilliant bike with a few upgrades. New one Looks pants IMO and way overpriced.
I think it looks amazing, each to their own!
Worst looking normal bike ever, that mess of idler cogs is a mess🤮
8:00 Did that tool compartment pop open any other times or did you just not fasten it properly?
I saw it to! 😂😅
@@mtbvision5016 I wonder ey 🤔😅
Did they cut it out?
I had one of these and it kept self ejecting in rock gardens. Very poorly designed
@@m4tt12 that solves that then! Not sure if that system works with any stem but I'd be swapping that whole cockpit about regardless of how it performed. That fixed bar/stem combo isn't for me!
Looks good but I’ll stick to the direct brands that have better price to spec ratio and they are starting to get better with customer service and also LBSs are really welcoming them and working on them
Most Trek shops will match a similarly spec'd DTC bike. It might not be exactly the same price, but my local shop has come within $300 or so of similarly spec'd bikes from Canyon.
thinking of upgrading from my remedy to the new slash next year and sell my downhill bike, since the slash seems to be a good all in one
Bits multitool is self ejecting. If you get one, take it out of the steerer and stick it in the frame storage immediately
Haven't had that happen yet but mine rattles like crazy
8:00 you can see it pop out
i love dario so much he is the sweetest
may you test how the slash gen 5 with the new vivid rides vs the gen 6 ?
Reminds me a lot of the Cannondale jekyll or the GT force, interesting to see the way the market is shifting.
I mean did you see how they copied the GT fury and the Trek fuel ex looks exactly like an older GT force. They just copy all of GTs designs. It’s wild
looks exactly like a norco shore
@@rocky6162 I’ll take that norco any day tho
0:50 so it looks like a Session, but with a BMX background?
Omfg I am obsessed with high pivot. Something about having to splice chains and looking sick.
Great vídeo 👏🏼👏🏼👏🏼👏🏼
Guys, save your self 0:30 sec
Voice audio is blown up, touch those dials maybe?
But yeah, that bike looks real nice👌
The 4k model of the slash is the best one
I wanna know how and why it's better than the previous version or if they are going for high pivot just because it's the thing now
Because it’s the thing now
Apparently its better because its got more travel, its slacker, its longer, and its heavier.
Because this years thing is better than last years better thing. So, in short, this years better thing > last years better thing. Thanks for coming to my "This years better thing Ted Talk."
I really like this. If only I had a spare 10K sitting around 😂 On an unrelated note, I always find it strange to see dudes riding with no gloves. I can't imagine doing that. Maybe because I grew up racing MX, I dunno.
I was excited to see this video but the shaky camera movement made it impossible as it induces motion sickness
What climbs better? Megatower V2 or Slash gen 6?
Hows the new vivid air shock ?
Is AL frame only available?
Yes
Do any WC downhillers use the high pivot?
my crystal ball says in 5 years they introduce Low+ pivot, and it will only work with 135mm ultra boost+ hubs.
I'll put this here... none of this is 'new' BUT coming out of the bicycle battle of manufactuers over the last 10 years - it seemingly is Trek and Specialized that have emerged as the overall big bike company winners and for good reason - good quality, good value and a very close to boutique level of internal componentry coming from Bontrager or Roval/Specialized.
I think they will never push the envelope on R&D, but play the fast follow to the popular boutiques - Evil, Pivot, Transition, Santa Cruz, IBIS, Yeti etc.. to then bring in a less-polarizing flavor of the next tech (hi-pivot here) to the market.
To note, I am now convinced Trek's bontrager components are every bit as good as RF, We are One, OneUp etc.. and they are big enough to really back up their warranty and provide a 30 day return gaurantee. 2 shops I spoke to, have expressed that they have had the least amount of issues with their carbon wheels and the hubs, which have as much engagement points as a iNine, hope, RF vault etc. Well also all know Specialized is every bit as good and people gravitate to their saddles, grips and even rubber.
Also when it comes to the latest gen of these gravity end of Enduros... thats what they are... Enduro race purpose bikes. They do that well. Fireroad up, and KOM on the way down. I just do not believe you get to enjoy the purity of the ride when you take them on flow, climb off camber, tight uphill switch backs or IMO anything in the saddle.
I think that there is a place to scale back some geo on the mid-travel bikes, such that you retain most capability, while still having a weighted front end for better steerability through fork trail for flatter, on the saddle handling. I rode my friend's Large (s4) 2020 27.5 Stumpy on a black/blue flow trail, where it was not just a climb up to get down, and found that the still slack 65 deg front end, but with a bit longer 442 rear end and 445 reach, was more appropiate than the Geo on my much longer Norco sight, which is NOW small compared to the Range, Druids etc..
anyways. my two cents. Amazing bike I'm certain, but like the other HP enduros, I think its like those 130+ underfoot skis... very purpose oriented and further from being a single quiver in the gargae
Single and slightly high/mid-pivot, steel, 63.5 ha, rs dl ultimate coil with the hydraulic bottom out. Sends it on the downs, the jumps. Still comfortable to pedal around on flat ground.
Simple but strong!
Looks awesome. With no knock-block, is it triple clamp compatible?
This video was great, the b roll while the presenter was talking was awesome. It looked like a lot of the trails I ride at home. Not sure if it was the presenter but the bike looked tiny on him lol. Worth mentioning that for some reason al of the big new bikes this year came out in some kind of green. I would rather see some fun colors on these big new bikes, it would make them more exciting and invoke party/goodtime vibes.
Now do the same to the RAIL, but keeping the 29"
Damn, that's a lot of seat post exposed below the dropper. When will rockshox make a longer axs dropper??? Please!!!
i really love it
No dual crown?
Is it just me or is the seat angled down a fair bit?
when you sit on the bike it levels out
I actually hate that they removed the knock block especially on the supercaliber where the levers hit the top tube
Funky helmet! What brand is that?
If its still the same helmet from a few months ago an article said Dario wears a Lazer Coyote Kineticore
Ghost dh gets high pivot many years ago.
Kinda glad I bought the heavily discounted 2023 model. Not enough has changed
Weight?
Trek have actually made a unique and interesting looking bike? No way
170mm all mnt bike ?
What's with the hot mics? First Kazimer, now this... Oof
Can you make an honest unbiased comparison of Gen 6 slash vs gen 5? Time to show why Latest isn't always better......and I believe the gen 5 slash with it's exclusive shock is still better for all around all mountain Enduro riding.
You’ve ridden the Gen 6 then…?
Based on what exactly?
@@SwolePapi15 dishonesty and bias I reckon 😂
@@Mockle07 keep sucking the #TREKCOCK
My guess is new one rides better because they probably tested it. However that tripple pivot id judt abomination. Gen 4,5 look miles better imo
Noooo not the press on headset cups. everyone i know who has a gen 6(newest) fuel ex with the same things have them creaking constantly!!!
What? Our two have been quiet
we have a fleet of 30 of them, only one bike has some bb creaks, no headset issues.
@@cloudkapYeah but apparently everyone on MTB comments sections likes to inflate some old rubbish they read on a forum or one mate said he heard from someone else if it means they can whinge about something 😂
but i want both wheels 27.5?? hello?
9 grand!!! WTF, the bike industry has gone loco man!!!
Dont forget the intense downhill bikes when they first came to the big times. Some of those pushed upwards of 15 grand.
ABP and not UDH?
Yet another high pivot mullet…shocker.
This thing sure looks like the Acoustic Cycles high pivot
They just put back the design of the 2020 design of the trek slash sad and awkward new pivot system
I thought exactly the same!
dude those prices... 10k... i would buy just the frame please. maybe the rims too but its not available on trek
When you “aftermarket” you mean non trek and warranty approved?
That’s what I’m wondering as well
I’ll keep my gt force
Ouch those audio levels!
Hi-Pivot is such an over hyped feature. Most riders in the world will never notice what it does. This simply a new trend so bike companies actually have something to add to new models
Re the beginning of the video - you don't need any of those things with that moustache
Hmmm🤔A bit weird…sinister bike… a Frankstein ripper??
Long overdue redesign. It looks amazing.
Do many people buy carbon Enduro bikes other then pros? The only people i see ride them are sponsored or reviewers.
9400? Lol
i want a slash-e....
Rail
@@Scabadart rail is quite far from this, in almost every way
@@TeamCykelhold 10mm more travel and an idler pulley, not different enough to justify a whole other E-mtb model. Spoke to a Trek brand rep last year he said the reason they stopped making the remedy is that it was too similar to the rest of their bikes, and didn’t really stand apart. With that philosophy I wouldn’t expect to see a slash-e but who knows.
@@Scabadart Edit: ok it looks like they changed the geo on the rail a lot since I looked last my bad
about the video itself: the clipped audio is uncomfortable to listen to
This is the best mountain bike ever
tha is a norco Shore don´t lie
It has every fancy bit, what makes a good mtb for today's standards. High pivot, storage for gloves. Nothing else is needed.
Why bother with an integrated bar-stem on such a big bike
This is like in the 90s cannondale did and other brands too. Brooklin was one who have done this type of rare drive trains. Nothing new in the city.
Love how all the riding shots have a completely different cockpit then stock... Trek please do away with the one piece bars...
Why does everyone find it good looking it looks like its straight out of 2002😬
I hate how Trek always makes you buy the $9000+ build just to get the better suspension parts (ultimate vs select). The value equation is awful and Trek's do not seem to hold value like more boutique brands in the same price bracket. Looks like a great bike though.
Looks like a session
How the heck do you get over anything with your seat that high
Go faster
@@SuzukiKid400welp you clearly don’t ride bikes
@@jamesadams934 Seems like a pretty short dropper 🤔
high gooch clearance
@@AGMTB.200mm lol? I never quite got it… even DH riders doesn’t slam their seats that low
Bring back full 27.5
Losing faith in these reviews and first impression videos. I'd like to see someone ride it harder and faster - look at how the Revolution Bike mag boys ride. The slow mo edit makes up for a lake of good riding.
still impossible to read bike stats at beginning guys
Modern bikes are getting very porky, I had a 2017 trek slash 9.8 and it weighed 14kg with pedals, this new version which is also the next model up weighs 16.5kg, 2 and a half kg heavier, not to mention its more expensive than a brand new suzuki rmz 450 motocross bike, damn.
We want more Dario!
My 2022 looks way cleaner. Also only weighs 32lbs
"The Ugly One"
forbidden Dreadnaught ?????? hummmmmm
camera movement giving me an aneurysm
$9400? When will people stop paying motorcycle prices for MTB's? Who can afford this shit? Unless you work in the bike industry and get a massive discount or you're a dentist, who else is buying this?
there are definitely people that come in and just buy these rowdy expensive bikes. but yeah you nailed it on the head. employee discount for trek is 50%
People that get caught up in specs buy these. I will never pay over 3k for any bike. Unless your literally a pro or make 130k + buying this is dumb
there are tons of people with buckets of cash in the world. Even more since covid
That is minging
This looks the exact same to the hb 916
But the HopeHB916 looks better to me
@@franzfranky oh yeah no doubt
Cancel the Remedy to push people into the slash. Change the slash because people want the Remdy. Use proprietary shit like Specialized. Push long time customers into another brand. Thanks Trek.
xdddddddddd największy syf tego roku i to do tego na dokładkę jeszcze lepszy damper i napęd. śmiech na sali XD.
it’s not A SWAT 👍
Looks like a mechanical nightmare.
The entry level build is about the same price as a surron. Let that sink in….
I’d take a decent MTB over a SurRon every day… not sure what point you’re making there really.
@@Mockle07 Not sure what point you're making. We're not talking about who likes what more.
@@Alex-xt9hn well the OP has just compared two completely different products used for different things with no context… I was simply trying to add context.
Can they make a bike more complicated? What’s with the handlebars? Gonna cost you even more if you don’t like the setup. 9400 +. I could buy a used vehicle and a new bike for that kinda cash.
Maybe better performance but that tripple pivot looks like abomination. Wouldnt spend money on solely of how ugly it looks