Sorry about the phone. I've had a few ricochets that came close to mine in a few videos. Look forward to the ballistic dummy testing. That's going to be very interesting.
I don't even put my phone this close to the target with airguns that can shoot under 1inch groups 😁 {you never know} *Surprised it didn't happen before.*
Thanks my friend! Yea it was bound to happen, still, this is the most tragic loss so far. I also can’t wait to receive the dummy. Not too reliable these people, I tell you!
Haha as a News cameraman I can say that I’ve put my self in much worse spots and situations. Get the shot and don’t get shot, is the mantra! I’m also surprised it didn’t happen before. I relied too much on the armored casing. True bummer, but again, it gave amazing footage til now. And for that, you have to risk a bit…
I have been in the hospital for a few weeks. I am home now and can't wait to see all of your videos that I missed. Your home defense is ramping up and it is great! Time to start sharing your vids!
Oh Jerry, so sorry to hear that! And I hope you are back at 100%! If not pls rest well til you’re fully back! Thank you so much for catching up on my vids and I truly hope they won’t disappoint… get well my friend!
What I really enjoyed about your videos what I really enjoyed about your videos is you don't make people waste time watching you load rounds and you're very organized and well-edited between shoots
Oh man, thanks for noticing! Yesss I do (or not do) the kind of stuff that drives me crazy in other videos! But I have been making videos for decades now, so it’s easier for me to know how to make better edits… Truly thank you for yet again revealing another Ugly Truth :)
Speaking of Ugly Truths, our presenter has incorrectly calculated mass in grams (g) where the ammunition is clearly labeled in grains (gr). 20 grams = 308.65 grains = 40 joules/29 fpe @ 150 fps. Using 20 grains instead of grams, you go all the way down to 1.356 joules. Now with a 300gr arrow coming out of the Dragon Claw at 300fps, you have 80 joules/64 fpe. 9.7 grams = 150 grains = 40 joules @ 300 fps.The formula I used to calculate fpe is velocity in fps squared times weight in grains divided by 420,240
@@luislongoria6621 Yea, no. Our presenter here was actually very correct. Many times in Europe people use gr to indicate grams. Just like in this case. So what you see marked on the box is GRAMS not GRAINS, Let's try to be careful before commenting stuff we don't know about and confuse people :)
Thanks so much Larry! I’m also very happy you found it!! I truly appreciate you taking the time and the next video will be coming out this Sunday :) Thanks again my friend!!
Great video as always. Very cool testing 😎. Thanks for the shout-out. Sorry abouth your phone. Congratulations with the 10000 subscribers. Keep up the good work. Cheers from your friend in Norway 😃👍
Just subscribed after researching HDR68 stuff. I’m getting one from DK. Love your videos, great production quality and valid information. I’m really loving this community!
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Ciao Grande! Figa, questa si che è divertente. Ma tieni bene a mente che questa fu modificata di brutto. Dalle tue parti dovesti trovare l’HDX 68 (40j) più facilmente rispetto al resto del mondo. Forse quella ti piacerà di più…
Another great video. I dig your easy going demeanor ok fun fact the army used to use baffle board and If something penetrates it it was considered deadly. That was the standard so anything punching threw the baffle board could be deadly. May God bless you and your loved ones.,P.S. it's hilarious how you feel about the spaghetti O,s my grandma is Italian and that stuff is garbage her gravy\sauce was fagetaboutit .....
Good evening from Key West. I have been a fan of your channel since I found it several months ago. Enjoyed today's video. Looking forward to getting this model to add to my collection. Thanks for what you do. Sorry about your phone.
Thank you so much my neighbor from the south! I much appreciate your support and absolutely, get you one of these before they run out again. Super fun toy! Have fun down there!!
I’ve gone from BB guns to firearms and back to air guns. England- Canada- England I’ve got this sucker and it’s a beaut.16 j version that I took out valve block out of it. Use the steel rubber balls S type.
Well seems like you’ve been down the whole road and back! Glad you have this fun toy! I’m sure the 16j version is perfect! And I agree, the S-type are wonderful! Thanks Peter
Unscrew the co2 piercing button and screw in an 88g co2 adapter. Modern combat sports do a great budget one. You'll see huge differences in power using a Umarex 88g canister 👍🏻
I'm thinking the rubber steel balls do so well because the thin rubber coating makes a better seal with the barrel, reducing gas blow-by, while the steel ball gives it the mass and hardness to produce more impact. The thin rubber coating isn't enough to make a significant impact... to... the... impact... Yeah, probably not the best choice of wording there.
Hahaha but we got what you mean and you’re probably right! Baffling how big the joules different was. The material difference makes a lot of sense my friend
16:33 coconut hat makes me cry 🤣, great video as always, - by the way i ❤ "the openings" of any episode, it's marvelous !!! All the Best to You - stay health , Brother ✌
Nice vid, they just keep getting better.. You do some great work =) edit: I would suggest having a roof on the board holder with more anchor points.. I'd guess quite a bit of energy lost when the wood wiggles.
Well thank you my friend! That’s a huge compliment, much appreciated. You’re not the first person to suggest adding a third wall. It’s actually a great idea! Thanks a lot for your input. It’s a work in progress and we’ll indeed make it perfect. At some point!
Thank you so much man! The good news was that I was able to repair it, saved me from buying a whole new one. Yea the HDB is what it is. Hopefully the HDX 68 (40j) will become more widely available…
I've shot my phone as well, and it's a bummer, to say the least. Here's a little suggestion with the 1/4" boards you shoot. A better support on all sides of the boards will give better results. The flexibility of the boards changes depending on where the ball strikes, making it difficult to judge the results. And even when supported from all sides, the center will flex much more than the sides. Maybe a smaller square with support all the way around. Anyway, I love your videos and awesome job filming and content.
Oh man, sorry to hear about your phone too! And you’re spot on. I had actually already bought all the steel corners to add that third fixing spot - but just didn’t have the time to install them before filming. At least 3 fixing points are better than just two hehe
@Airgun Alley Miami l shot mine with a 1/2" steel ball with my slingshot at 250 fps or more. It's devastating to phones. LOL, it puts out similar power to the best less than lethal guns. Modern rubber and a good knowledge of how to use slingshots can be a great less than lethal as well. Now I must add....only if you truly know how to use them effectively. Otherwise, you're toast. Lol, take it easy, and thanks for the reply. Check out some slingshot channels and I think you might enjoy.
Idea: model a steel round after a deburring ball drill bit's tip, with a spiraled surface fluting (like a cyclone dagger) encased in rubber or PVC? Shredders.
Hey. Nice comparison, great video - I was surprised at the wide range of Joule readings from the different ammo. It was banging 40J+ for the first lot of ammo (homedefense 24 rubber steel). Maybe they fit the barrel the best out of the ones you tried. Sorry to see your phone got smashed but hopefully a screen replacement is all that is needed. Great video!
Thank you so much!! Indeed I’m hoping that a simple change of the screen will save my phone :) And yes, absolutely baffling how big the joules power difference is. The fitting must be the main reason. Secondly I think temperature also plays a small part. The more you shoot, the colder the seals and chamber become. The order I present them in the video is not the same order in which I shot them. That maybe would’ve made things a bit more clear. Anyway, the best way to chrono test is to shoot several shots and the calculate the average power, I only shot one of each in this video. To be taken with a grain of salt for sure. Thanks again!!
Notice the below is for lead which noticeably superior to steel and very noticeably superior to aluminum. The U.S. Army has determined that a blunt or spherical projectile has to have a velocity of at least 170 fps to pierce skin in order to reach fatty tissue and internal organs. If a person is wearing light summer clothing, then the velocity must be increased at least to 200 fps. The heavier wool clothing that a Civil War soldier wore would require more velocity than 200 fps in order for the projectile to wound. At 600 yards, the .69 cal. LEAD ball is getting close to it's velocity limit to wound. The Civil War musket mv of 1200 fps .69 cal. LEAD ball has the worst BC (0.083). With a starting velocity of 1200 fps, by the time the ball has reached 300 yards (it's "zeroed" range), it has lost nearly half of its velocity and with a 10 mph wind, blowing perpendicular to the ball's flight has pushed it 58 inches away from it's point of aim. The .69 cal. mini pointed bullet with the better BC, (0.217), but a lower starting velocity, has only been pushed 19 inches by the wind at 300 yards, but has retained about 82% of it's starting velocity and is now traveling 85 fps faster than the .69 caliber LEAD ball. At 1800 yards (slightly over 1 mile), the .69 pointed mini bullet is still traveling over 360 fps, which is fast enough to at least wound.
The Army experience suggests that .69 caliber lead balls require over 400 fps to penetrate heavy clothing and seriously wound in a body shot just reaching internal organ. That is 150 ft lbs of energy same as the me of a .22 LR rifle or 32 AUTO pocket pistol... Over 150 joules? If that would true maybe one is better off dropping a couple grand on a precharged pneumatic semi auto .357 carbine firing pointed hollow points... Basically a coyote hunting rig..
Bummer about your phone. iPhone 14's are not cheap. And you do great video demonstrations. You hit all the points, measured the distance, show the fps, and slow and normal speed photography, etc. I'll stay subscribed to see more.
Thank you very much Felis! I truly appreciate it. Luckily I was able to have my phone fixed, not cheap, but better than buying a new one! Thanks again for your support
Iguanas have rights too LoL. Looked like he was just hanging out watching you make a video 🦎 Gonna be getting the 40J version of the shotgun later this spring after it's released here in the US. I can wait to fire it myself and see how well it works on the target traps I've built. Let us all pause in a moment of silence in remembrance of Phoney who sacrificed himself in the line of duty doing what he loved most.
Hahaha well said Jeremy, on the iguanas and ob my phone (which btw was already back in action for the next upcoming video)! Oh man can’t wait to hear about the 40j version you’ll be getting! Let us know! And again thank you my friend! 🙌🏼
Hello AIRGUN ALLEY Have you thought about modifying your TR50 even more? How about adding a TR50 Upgraded Barrel Kit and a Umarex TR50, Barrel Shroud to cover the extended barrel? Now that Size of Air Pistol looks and is impressive. I converted my TR50 with the above 2 modifications. The total length of the TR50 is almost 12 inches now. Its still fits in your TR50 Holster. Disclaimer: This was a Dilettante Presumption Theorem: All statements of fact, opinion, or analysis expressed do not necessarily reflect official positions or views or any other entity, past or present. Nothing in the contents should be construed as asserting or implying endorsement of interpretations and factual statements.
@@FLAlesslethal Sorry I don't have a Chronograph, but it appears to be faster and more powerful. Disclaimer: This was a Dilettante Presumption Theorem: All statements of fact, opinion, or analysis expressed do not necessarily reflect official positions or views or any other entity, past or present. Nothing in the contents should be construed as asserting or implying endorsement of interpretations and factual statements.
I think it would look a little better if you filmed the shooting from two perspectives. once the impact of the bullet and once the firing of the weapon. You could use a small triangle like a reaction video on the bottom left to fire the weapon. I hope that doesn't sound presumptuous, it's just an idea. Thanks for the video and greetings from Germany
Hello my friend! No presumptuous at all and it’s actually a great idea. Thank you! There is so much more I would like to do. At the moment I only have one day a week to film and edit and I do it all with my phone. Of course there are limits. As soon as I dedicate more time to the channel, a lot will improve. So thank you again , I love the idea of a cutout screen on the bottom!
SORRY ABOUT THE PHONE BUDDY , it proves one thing in shooting guns or markers , even archery , moving a quarter inch off your sight can get you off target 6 inches at 10 yards ,a foot at 20 , the further you are , the MORE off it gets as distance increases ,AT 100 YARDS IT CAN MEAN 20 FEET . when i go to practice longer shots with my air powered rifles , i sit at a table and use a shooting rest , even breathing can throw you off feet from the bulls eye. with archery its way harder , it takes lots of practice to be accurate . i have told people , sight in a laser ,on rifles, pistols or bows or whatever , now with laser on , get into fire position and try to hold on target you will see the laser dot move in all directions . now with a bow ,its just about almost impossible or very very difficult to do , ITS VERY HARD TO KEEP STEADY . AGAIN ,SO SORRY ABOUT YOUR PHONE BUDDY ! :(
Thanks for this! I wonder if you can review more non-lethals that have clips for ammo? Byrna, etc. Also, I'd love to find one where the CO2 cartridge can be more quickly swapped than having to use a screw-in cap.
Sounds like you would be interested in the Tippmann TCR. You might ask “is the Tippmann TCR effective for home defence?” Well, Byrna paint Tippmann TCRs orange, and sell them as the Byrna TCR for more than twice the price, so yes.
Alright mate👍 your not having much luck at the mo first you gun now your phone on the bright side glad you have reached 10.000 subs hopefully 100.000 by end of the year .got to give it to the pvc steel balls the can stood no chance .as always keep up the good work 👍
Thanks so much Stuart!! Yes not the luckiest days indeed! The 10k subs makes it a bit easier to swallow and 100k would be a dream and perhaps the moment I could finally dedicate my self to the channel 100% 🤞🏽🤞🏽🤞🏽
Sorry about the phone. But it was a very well done test and video. I honestly think all the choices would be sufficient for defense at the proper range. Thank you Bcc again
Sorry but it altso shoots Devestators . You can only load one at a time but tjek it out you just put them ind from the opening in the side. 😊 Nice show Guys ❤
Hi again! I just realized that you sent me a Superthanks! So here’s a SUPERTHANKS back! And pls let me know if you ever have more specific questions on how to make your channel happen…
Very good point! For now I bought more of those metal corers and will try to fix the boards better on three sides. If that is still sketchy, then I’ll have to add another wall… a project in the making :) Thanks as always my friend!
Hi Scott!! Thank you so much! It was a very sad moment and it sure hurt the wallet a little. But luckily I was able to find a repairing service that brought it back to new :) Thank you again!!
That is one cool blaster! Sorry about the phone :( Hope you get a plexiglass shield to protect your next phone :D Then It might also be safe from Spagetti O juice :D Thanks for another great Video :D
Yesss plexiglass, now that’s a great idea!! I thought the armored phone casing would’ve done it. And it did, for over a year. But yesterday’s attack was too fierce. 😩 Thank you my friend!
I’m confused and surprised that the joules of energy varied so widely among the various projectiles. I have always held the belief that joules is largely dependent on the air gun and not the projectile. That a lighter projectile will go faster and a heavier projectile will go slower but both would carry approximately the same amount of energy when fired from the same air gun.
Hi Thomas! I agree with you and my conclusion is that the only consistency with these markers is their inconsistency. Absolutely true on the gun making the joules and not the projectiles. Other than the fitting factor, of course. If the slug doesn’t seal well it’ll obviously gain much less speed/power. As you know I usually shoot various shots thru the chrono per test. In this case I only shot one. So we had to rely on what the single reading told us. Which, again, can not be the most accurate. The first shots should always be more powerful as the seal and chamber are not that frozen yet. The more you shoot the colder everything gets, and that brings the power down a bit. So that also could play in. That’s my take on it :)
Hey dude.. If a friend of mine had scared me with his hdb 68 and then said " hey , i was kidding " , i would aim at hdb 68 with my pcp and shoot and have fun.. Meanwhile ; Does the hdb 68 look like a paintball rifle?.. or am I wrong? The mechanism is very similar. it's like they dressed the paintball rifle and called it hdb 68..
Hahahaha! Damn friends with hdb 68s! 😂 So yes, the HDB 68 - like the whole T4E family - is a paintball launcher. And just as you said, Umarex decided to dress up these launchers as Home Defence weapons. That’s why most T4E guns surpass the power/speed limits for playing paintball. And that’s why now you find all kinds of projectiles that are more painful than a paintball
Very good point my friend! I just shot a lot of 68 cal at the ballistic dummy with HDR 68 tuned up at similar power (it disfigured the dummy) - and the best performing ammo were the 7g aluminum balls
The HDB 68 has the ability to lay down a massive amount of pepper very quickly! 16 rounds! I would likely alternate pepper balls and 10g metal rounds to cover the possibility of different defensive scenarios. I regard these defensive tools as launchers first as any physical damage to a perp is grounds for a potentially devastating lawsuit. In many places around the U.S., including my hometown of Rochester, NY, women are suing the city, claiming their menstrual cycles have been disrupted following exposure to pepper spray used by police during the 2020 "peaceful protests." Of course, the first reaction might be, "What complete nonsense!" However, if you are the individual being sued, it can be quite expensive and quite serious. That's just one illustration of how messed up our ability to defend ourselves has become. Using a firearm today, even if you are a police officer involved in a justified shooting, can create all kinds of personal difficulties and financial blowback. I'm just suggesting that we all use our brains in trying to figure out how we're going to defend ourselves and our loved ones and our property with the awesome tools available to us.
Sempre più belli i tuoi video,ottima qualità video,ottima musica e mix🎉 inoltre interessante la comparazione tra le varie munizioni così saprò quali preferirò comprare per me.....l'unica cosa che mi sembra troppa differenza di joule con il primo tipo di munizioni che ha generato più di 40joule....20 di differenza in media con gli altri
Grande Turi!! Ti ringrazio tantissimo… si questa è stata modificata alla grande. Questo video è parte della “vecchia collezione” dove usavo armi modificate. Dovevo farmi notare all’inizio ahahaha Da qualche mese ho deciso di fare video solo su prodotti come escono dalla fabrica. Dunque dovrebbero essere più realiztici per tutti :) Grazie ancora Salvo
Thanks a lot Allan! So that’s not really a song per se. It’s music that is available on a rights-free music app called Soundstripe. This particular guitar riff one is by an artist called “Westlander”
Nice job on the demo. Currios, what is the bore size of the barrel? How many shots on one co2 ?? Ever time I watch one of your vids, wish I was back living on Miami Beach.
Hahahaha! I’m glad to bring you back to the good old Miami days ☀️ I’m not sure what the exact size is. Good question. I think it’s slightly larger that .680 - but will have to research it better
It's unfortunate the steel balls are only 17mm wit is far smaller then any other ball hence why only 14 joules they are spots smaller if all same diameter ball then you'd get appox same joules. Bore matched steel bearings are the best I use 11/16 balls they.6875 or 17.4mm and are 21.7 grams 500 for 75$ on Amazon right now
Good video but I do metal fabrication and welding I know how to bullet proof prep store fronts with bullet resistant panels your targets are held down on one side and the bottom giving flex to the top and other side and the weight is off so your getting poor results when you shoot your targets.
Thank you James and indeed you hit the nail on the head (to be expected from a welder 😂)… I bought more of the metal fixings but haven’t mounted them yet. Next time, the boards will be much better fixed on three corners. Very good point and thanks again!
Binge watching your videos... ooh sorry about the phone... and now a question. So which round on this video or otherwise is best for less lethal true home defense with my HDB 68... both steal and OC/pepper balls as I like to mix?
I always suggest to use a variety which include aluminum balls, ballbearing slugs, pointy slugs and pepper balls. This way you have most bases covered :)
Great question! I’m going to turn you over to your fellow Canadian expert Jeff, who has this very informative channel youtube.com/@umarext4elesslethalhomedef872 Also check out Rune Rebel’s channel! Good luck!
How do I go about getting one of those I really like that I like added to my collection with the 2 I got the handgun I also got the double barrel version but also want to shot gun version Can you please tell me how thank you
Absolutely my friend! You can actually find it on Amazon amzn.to/3Y3hpJO Sounds like you need to add one of this to your nice collection! Good luck and have fun
GREETINGS SIR REALLY ENJOY YOUR CHANNEL & A PROUD SUBSCRIBER !! LIKE TO ASK I HAVE AN UMAREX HDB 68 SHOTGUN 50+ JOULES . WITH THE CO2 CARTS MAY I ASK ABOUT HOW MUCH PSI DO YOU GET FROM EACH ONE ? AND I'M LOOKING TO ADD AN HPA TANK FOR THIS MARKER TO ADD MORE POWER IS THERE SOMEONE OR SOMEWHERE YOU CAN RECOMMEND WHERE I CAN GET AN HPA TANK & ADAPTOR ? THANK YOU FOR YOUR HELP & THE GREAT VIDEOS ..👍
Hi my friend!! Allow me to refer you to this channel, which surely has all the answers! The host, Jeff, is a true artist and engineer youtube.com/@umarext4elesslethalhomedefense?si=iEA564yYoDeXeLcL
Félicitations pour tes 10000 abonnés 👏 Aurais-tu la possibilité de faire un comparatif entre le HDS avec les projectiles pointus ZRAM et le HDB avec les Rubber Steel Balls de HomDefence 24 ? Merci pour tes vidéos...
Merci beaucoup! That’s a hood idea. But my HDS is very weak compared to the HDB. I’m afraid it will be hard to get a clear idea of their differences. But I”ll try! Thank you again!
Good question! I think I was able to stick a devastator in there once. But it’s not something I would recommend as it’s not the most simple operation… but again, great question! And thank you
Ok..now i saw the whole video....im sad for ur phone dude....but i see...ure livin in paradise...and i never had a roomtoor...greetings from dyin shithole germany.
Congrats buddy. 10k is a nice place to be. Keep on truckin. Only shoots balls? Does that mean if someone breaks into my house, I can only shoot him in the balls? I guess, if I get one of those there guns I will have to practice. Any volunteers? 😜. Oh, oh. You shot your iPhone. May it 🪦😢. Well that will certainly increase your costs of making these videos. So sorry, my friend. Hey, at least you destroyed some more Spagetti-Os. Love that gun, love the video. See ya next round.
Always aim for the balls!! Especially if they’re steel! 😂😂 thank you my friend! Big bummer for the phone… now let’s see what I have to do to fix it 🤞🏽🤞🏽 Til the next one and…. Where can I find your music??
@@AirgunAlley where can you find my music? Good question. If you do happen to find it, would you be so kind to as to let me know. 😂 it’s a long story that, in some way, ends with an injury to my left thumb that now makes it very difficult to play guitar without a lot of discomfort and at times, a lot of pain. Years ago, my brother and I owned a recording studio. It was sooo much fun. I even recorded two songs. I had recorded them for my wife, then fiancé. So, all plans are on hold, but looks like it’s over as I have tendinitis in the thumb which makes it near impossible to play. But, I had a good ride while it lasted. Recording, playing in bands. Oh well, that’s life. Take care. See you on the Tube.
So my question is that since there's bigger capasitys with CO2 capsels, are there diferenses in sizes. Like can you fit them in to hanle of umarex TR50 or Bravo A's grip?
Haha you know? They’re so requested these glasses that I even put the link in the description. They’re pretty cool and very cheap :) 😎 My safety glasses: amzn.to/3e2DAxX
Greetings from Andorra. Dear friend, you live in a country where the use of firearms is very widespread. I would like to know your opinion to this comment. Every day I have more doubts about whether these Umarex type weapons really serve as a defense in a real situation. Because I say this, well, one thing is to shoot a watermelon or shoot a coconut and another very different thing is a real risk situation. In a real danger situation, there is a factor that I think is decisive, it is called adrenaline and as we all know almost everything that ends in INE is some type of drug. A real situation of a normal type, two types entering a house (it is very common for 2 or more people to enter) to avoid being recognized by the surveillance cameras that many people have, they wear motorcycle helmets, and the clothes they wear It includes something very normal, a leather jacket. Here we already have a very serious problem: 2 - Intruders Without pretending it turns out that they are protected And surely they are armed with real weapons. Now we heard a noise and we appear on the scene armed with our UMAREX weapon. This is going to provoke is that adrenaline levels in intruders and also in us are triggered, that added to your clothes will hardly notice the strength of an impact of our shot. We can see this in real life, where a soldier can take many minutes to realize that he has been injured by a (real) shot. And if all this were not enough, the intruders will not be able to distinguish if our weapon is not lethal and automatically respond to our action with real firearms, shots that can easily cross a wall of a house. I really think you have to seriously value risks.
That’s a very good point Manel. I always say that these should always be considered as the very, very last resort. As you said, in the US you have a much, much higher chance of being confronted by people with real firearms. Never ever pull out a less lethal in that case. They make less sense here indeed. But for those who really don’t want a firearm (or can’t, as many point out) this can be the alternative. Now, if you fear of multiple guys with helmets coming into your house, well I would try to change neighborhood 😬 or indeed buy a real gun hahahaha. The scenarios are unlimited and these, I believe, can be useful only in a handful of cases. They’re definitely more effective in areas like Europe. Finally, pepper balls are truly what everyone should keep loaded in their HDRs. Those are an incredibly higher guarantee :)
@@AirgunAlley Thanks for your tips. That people can enter your home, either with a helmet or with a clown mask does not depend on the neighborhood, surely if the prey is better and more attractive the prize will be better 😂😂 But I totally agree with you and I also believe that there is an irrefutable proof that demonstrates this theory. 1 - If the UMAREX type weapons could really leave K.O. A person without killing her, don't you think the assailants of a house or a gas station would use them? For a simple reason, that may be the dieference of many many years of condemnation in case the thing goes wrong. If they don't use them, it's because they really don't work if the other part is scared, wielding a real revolver. Regarding what you say about pepper gas I think the same and really that kind of weapons, are used by the police since those weapons like the JPX Piexon can really stop a person (even if they wear helmets will have to breathe) Chauuuuuuu
Ciao Paolo! Tutto dipende da dove ti trovi. In America trovi tutto su Amazon. Metto sempre tutti i link nella descrizione sotto al video. In Europa credo la miglior maniera sia cercare un negozio su google. In bocca al lupo!
Helloo my friend! I think it blew a seal or an O-ring. The rifle is brand new so I’m waiting for the warranty to take care of it. This is the video where it happened :( Dragon Claw accuracy experience with .308 bullets by Cododo ruclips.net/video/_7xqlLyzTeY/видео.html
Sorry about the phone. I've had a few ricochets that came close to mine in a few videos. Look forward to the ballistic dummy testing. That's going to be very interesting.
I don't even put my phone this close to the target with airguns that can shoot under 1inch groups 😁 {you never know}
*Surprised it didn't happen before.*
Thanks my friend! Yea it was bound to happen, still, this is the most tragic loss so far. I also can’t wait to receive the dummy. Not too reliable these people, I tell you!
Haha as a News cameraman I can say that I’ve put my self in much worse spots and situations. Get the shot and don’t get shot, is the mantra!
I’m also surprised it didn’t happen before. I relied too much on the armored casing. True bummer, but again, it gave amazing footage til now. And for that, you have to risk a bit…
Pellets can ricochet just like BBs so don't get too close to hard objects
I have been in the hospital for a few weeks. I am home now and can't wait to see all of your videos that I missed. Your home defense is ramping up and it is great! Time to start sharing your vids!
Oh Jerry, so sorry to hear that! And I hope you are back at 100%! If not pls rest well til you’re fully back! Thank you so much for catching up on my vids and I truly hope they won’t disappoint… get well my friend!
What I really enjoyed about your videos what I really enjoyed about your videos is you don't make people waste time watching you load rounds and you're very organized and well-edited between shoots
Oh man, thanks for noticing! Yesss I do (or not do) the kind of stuff that drives me crazy in other videos! But I have been making videos for decades now, so it’s easier for me to know how to make better edits…
Truly thank you for yet again revealing another Ugly Truth :)
Speaking of Ugly Truths, our presenter has incorrectly calculated mass in grams (g) where the ammunition is clearly labeled in grains (gr). 20 grams = 308.65 grains = 40 joules/29 fpe @ 150 fps. Using 20 grains instead of grams, you go all the way down to 1.356 joules. Now with a 300gr arrow coming out of the Dragon Claw at 300fps, you have 80 joules/64 fpe. 9.7 grams = 150 grains = 40 joules @ 300 fps.The formula I used to calculate fpe is velocity in fps squared times weight in grains divided by 420,240
@@luislongoria6621 Yea, no. Our presenter here was actually very correct. Many times in Europe people use gr to indicate grams. Just like in this case. So what you see marked on the box is GRAMS not GRAINS, Let's try to be careful before commenting stuff we don't know about and confuse people :)
I’m so glad I found this channel and look forward to every episode, great work brother and keep it coming!
Thanks so much Larry! I’m also very happy you found it!! I truly appreciate you taking the time and the next video will be coming out this Sunday :)
Thanks again my friend!!
After spending thousands on airguns I picked up my first Henry 22lr.
I recommend one. They have some real charm.
Great video!
Never heard of it I’ll have too check it out
Niiice! I like it! Never fiddled with a lever action, but I love the looks, or as you rightly called it, charm!
Thank you
Great video as always. Very cool testing 😎. Thanks for the shout-out. Sorry abouth your phone. Congratulations with the 10000 subscribers. Keep up the good work. Cheers from your friend in Norway 😃👍
Thank you Maestro! My absolute pleasure and thank you for all you do! 🙌🏼
Just had my phone fixed, pheeeew, that was a scare!
@@AirgunAlley Iam glad you could fix it. I thought it was broken for good after beeing hit. Take care my friend and happy shooting 😃👍
Just subscribed after researching HDR68 stuff. I’m getting one from DK. Love your videos, great production quality and valid information. I’m really loving this community!
Well thank you so much for subscribing and for the very nice feedback! Welcome to my channel, very much appreciated 🙌🏼
@@AirgunAlley any chance I can get some of your stickers?
@@Kjk-lb1ox hey thanks so much for the interest! For now I only have these, hope you’ll like them airgun-alley.myspreadshop.com/airgun+alley+miami+sticker-A63a88d3e2d071d752a853e5a?productType=1459&sellable=1ndpm2qb23sZy7mx5BAo-1459-215&appearance=839&size=167
Actually there are these too! :)
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Wow you peeled the cap off that coconut. I was debating about getting this gun now I’m sold!!
Hope you enjoy it my friend!!
I really love that gon, it will be my next piece in my collection soon! Grazie per il video! Saluti dalla Svezia, Stefano!
Ciao Grande! Figa, questa si che è divertente. Ma tieni bene a mente che questa fu modificata di brutto. Dalle tue parti dovesti trovare l’HDX 68 (40j) più facilmente rispetto al resto del mondo. Forse quella ti piacerà di più…
Another great video. I dig your easy going demeanor ok fun fact the army used to use baffle board and If something penetrates it it was considered deadly. That was the standard so anything punching threw the baffle board could be deadly. May God bless you and your loved ones.,P.S. it's hilarious how you feel about the spaghetti O,s my grandma is Italian and that stuff is garbage her gravy\sauce was fagetaboutit .....
Viva your nonna!!
awesome video man thanks for the shout out and congrats on making 10,000 subs you have a great channel bro :)
So do you! It was my absolute pleasure. Let’s keep up the good work! 💪🏼🙌🏼
Good evening from Key West. I have been a fan of your channel since I found it several months ago. Enjoyed today's video. Looking forward to getting this model to add to my collection. Thanks for what you do. Sorry about your phone.
Thank you so much my neighbor from the south! I much appreciate your support and absolutely, get you one of these before they run out again. Super fun toy!
Have fun down there!!
I’ve gone from BB guns to firearms and back to air guns.
England- Canada- England
I’ve got this sucker and it’s a beaut.16 j version that I took out valve block out of it.
Use the steel rubber balls S type.
Well seems like you’ve been down the whole road and back! Glad you have this fun toy! I’m sure the 16j version is perfect! And I agree, the S-type are wonderful!
Thanks Peter
Unscrew the co2 piercing button and screw in an 88g co2 adapter. Modern combat sports do a great budget one. You'll see huge differences in power using a Umarex 88g canister 👍🏻
I'm thinking the rubber steel balls do so well because the thin rubber coating makes a better seal with the barrel, reducing gas blow-by, while the steel ball gives it the mass and hardness to produce more impact. The thin rubber coating isn't enough to make a significant impact... to... the... impact... Yeah, probably not the best choice of wording there.
Hahaha but we got what you mean and you’re probably right! Baffling how big the joules different was. The material difference makes a lot of sense my friend
16:33 coconut hat makes me cry 🤣,
great video as always,
- by the way i ❤ "the openings" of any episode, it's marvelous !!!
All the Best to You - stay health , Brother ✌
Hahahaha that was a cool slow mo shot eh?! Thank you so much my friend! I truly appreciate it ☺️
@@AirgunAlley ✌
Nice vid, they just keep getting better.. You do some great work =)
edit: I would suggest having a roof on the board holder with more anchor points.. I'd guess quite a bit of energy lost when the wood wiggles.
Well thank you my friend! That’s a huge compliment, much appreciated.
You’re not the first person to suggest adding a third wall. It’s actually a great idea! Thanks a lot for your input. It’s a work in progress and we’ll indeed make it perfect. At some point!
The lack of a shoulder stock really hampers ranged shots. May your phone rest in peace, it gave us a lot of great footage in its life.
Thank you so much man! The good news was that I was able to repair it, saved me from buying a whole new one. Yea the HDB is what it is. Hopefully the HDX 68 (40j) will become more widely available…
I've shot my phone as well, and it's a bummer, to say the least. Here's a little suggestion with the 1/4" boards you shoot. A better support on all sides of the boards will give better results. The flexibility of the boards changes depending on where the ball strikes, making it difficult to judge the results. And even when supported from all sides, the center will flex much more than the sides. Maybe a smaller square with support all the way around. Anyway, I love your videos and awesome job filming and content.
Oh man, sorry to hear about your phone too! And you’re spot on. I had actually already bought all the steel corners to add that third fixing spot - but just didn’t have the time to install them before filming.
At least 3 fixing points are better than just two hehe
@Airgun Alley Miami l shot mine with a 1/2" steel ball with my slingshot at 250 fps or more. It's devastating to phones. LOL, it puts out similar power to the best less than lethal guns. Modern rubber and a good knowledge of how to use slingshots can be a great less than lethal as well. Now I must add....only if you truly know how to use them effectively. Otherwise, you're toast. Lol, take it easy, and thanks for the reply. Check out some slingshot channels and I think you might enjoy.
Congratulations!!! Your videos are entertaining and informative as well. God bless you!!!
Thank you so so much!!! I appreciate it my friend 🙏🏽
Idea: model a steel round after a deburring ball drill bit's tip, with a spiraled surface fluting (like a cyclone dagger) encased in rubber or PVC? Shredders.
Boom!! Love it
Hey. Nice comparison, great video - I was surprised at the wide range of Joule readings from the different ammo. It was banging 40J+ for the first lot of ammo (homedefense 24 rubber steel). Maybe they fit the barrel the best out of the ones you tried. Sorry to see your phone got smashed but hopefully a screen replacement is all that is needed. Great video!
Thank you so much!! Indeed I’m hoping that a simple change of the screen will save my phone :)
And yes, absolutely baffling how big the joules power difference is. The fitting must be the main reason. Secondly I think temperature also plays a small part. The more you shoot, the colder the seals and chamber become. The order I present them in the video is not the same order in which I shot them. That maybe would’ve made things a bit more clear.
Anyway, the best way to chrono test is to shoot several shots and the calculate the average power, I only shot one of each in this video. To be taken with a grain of salt for sure.
Thanks again!!
@@AirgunAlley This would be so much better as a PCP
Notice the below is for lead which noticeably superior to steel and very noticeably superior to aluminum. The U.S. Army has determined that a blunt or spherical projectile has to have a velocity of at least 170 fps to pierce skin in order to reach fatty tissue and internal organs. If a person is wearing light summer clothing, then the velocity must be increased at least to 200 fps. The heavier wool clothing that a Civil War soldier wore would require more velocity than 200 fps in order for the projectile to wound. At 600 yards, the .69 cal. LEAD ball is getting close to it's velocity limit to wound.
The Civil War musket mv of 1200 fps .69 cal. LEAD ball has the worst BC (0.083). With a starting velocity of 1200 fps, by the time the ball has reached 300 yards (it's "zeroed" range), it has lost nearly half of its velocity and with a 10 mph wind, blowing perpendicular to the ball's flight has pushed it 58 inches away from it's point of aim. The .69 cal. mini pointed bullet with the better BC, (0.217), but a lower starting velocity, has only been pushed 19 inches by the wind at 300 yards, but has retained about 82% of it's starting velocity and is now traveling 85 fps faster than the .69 caliber LEAD ball. At 1800 yards (slightly over 1 mile), the .69 pointed mini bullet is still traveling over 360 fps, which is fast enough to at least wound.
The Army experience suggests that .69 caliber lead balls require over 400 fps to penetrate heavy clothing and seriously wound in a body shot just reaching internal organ.
That is 150 ft lbs of energy same as the me of a .22 LR rifle or 32 AUTO pocket pistol... Over 150 joules?
If that would true maybe one is better off dropping a couple grand on a precharged pneumatic semi auto .357 carbine firing pointed hollow points... Basically a coyote hunting rig..
Bummer about your phone. iPhone 14's are not cheap. And you do great video demonstrations. You hit all the points, measured the distance, show the fps, and slow and normal speed photography, etc. I'll stay subscribed to see more.
Thank you very much Felis! I truly appreciate it. Luckily I was able to have my phone fixed, not cheap, but better than buying a new one!
Thanks again for your support
Iguanas have rights too LoL. Looked like he was just hanging out watching you make a video 🦎
Gonna be getting the 40J version of the shotgun later this spring after it's released here in the US. I can wait to fire it myself and see how well it works on the target traps I've built.
Let us all pause in a moment of silence in remembrance of Phoney who sacrificed himself in the line of duty doing what he loved most.
Hahaha well said Jeremy, on the iguanas and ob my phone (which btw was already back in action for the next upcoming video)!
Oh man can’t wait to hear about the 40j version you’ll be getting! Let us know!
And again thank you my friend! 🙌🏼
Funny you mentioned iguana removal as it gets really brutal. People tend to complain about dead animals. Coconuts, not so much
Hello AIRGUN ALLEY
Have you thought about modifying your TR50 even more?
How about adding a TR50 Upgraded Barrel Kit and a Umarex TR50, Barrel Shroud to cover the extended barrel?
Now that Size of Air Pistol looks and is impressive.
I converted my TR50 with the above 2 modifications.
The total length of the TR50 is almost 12 inches now.
Its still fits in your TR50 Holster.
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How much did the barrel upgrade kit bounce it up to?
@@FLAlesslethal
Sorry I don't have a Chronograph, but it appears to be faster and more powerful.
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I think it would look a little better if you filmed the shooting from two perspectives. once the impact of the bullet and once the firing of the weapon. You could use a small triangle like a reaction video on the bottom left to fire the weapon. I hope that doesn't sound presumptuous, it's just an idea. Thanks for the video and greetings from Germany
Hello my friend! No presumptuous at all and it’s actually a great idea. Thank you!
There is so much more I would like to do. At the moment I only have one day a week to film and edit and I do it all with my phone. Of course there are limits.
As soon as I dedicate more time to the channel, a lot will improve. So thank you again , I love the idea of a cutout screen on the bottom!
Awesome shooting test bro! An H.D.B-68 is on my wishlist!
Thanks bro! Get it while it’s available!! Super fun toy
HDB 68 has an aggressive look. It is powerful, precise, and allows you to chain shots. Assured destruction for targets. Sorry for the phone.
Yes, yes and yes!! Well said my friend! And thank you, thankfully I was able to have the phone repaired already 😅
AWESOME VIDEO AND HOME DEFENCE -24 IS THE BOMB ALSO !!!!
There he is!!! Missed ya buddy! I think this is your record for shortest comment ever hahahahaha!!
Thanks a lot my friend 🙏🏽
SORRY ABOUT THE PHONE BUDDY , it proves one thing in shooting guns or markers , even archery , moving a quarter inch off your sight can get you off target 6 inches at 10 yards ,a foot at 20 , the further you are , the MORE off it gets as distance increases ,AT 100 YARDS IT CAN MEAN 20 FEET .
when i go to practice longer shots with my air powered rifles , i sit at a table and use a shooting rest , even breathing can throw you off feet from the bulls eye.
with archery its way harder , it takes lots of practice to be accurate . i have told people , sight in a laser ,on rifles, pistols or bows or whatever , now with laser on , get into fire position and try to hold on target you will see the laser dot move in all directions .
now with a bow ,its just about almost impossible or very very difficult to do , ITS VERY HARD TO KEEP STEADY . AGAIN ,SO SORRY ABOUT YOUR PHONE BUDDY ! :(
@@AirgunAlley LMAO , IM NOT DONE YET BUDDY LOL .
You got a hole in one @ 12:26….👏🏻👍🏻
🙌🏼😂
Thanks for this! I wonder if you can review more non-lethals that have clips for ammo? Byrna, etc. Also, I'd love to find one where the CO2 cartridge can be more quickly swapped than having to use a screw-in cap.
Good points my friend! I’m trying to get my hands on Byrna… hopefully soon!
Sounds like you would be interested in the Tippmann TCR.
You might ask “is the Tippmann TCR effective for home defence?” Well, Byrna paint Tippmann TCRs orange, and sell them as the Byrna TCR for more than twice the price, so yes.
Alright mate👍 your not having much luck at the mo first you gun now your phone on the bright side glad you have reached 10.000 subs hopefully 100.000 by end of the year .got to give it to the pvc steel balls the can stood no chance .as always keep up the good work 👍
Thanks so much Stuart!! Yes not the luckiest days indeed! The 10k subs makes it a bit easier to swallow and 100k would be a dream and perhaps the moment I could finally dedicate my self to the channel 100% 🤞🏽🤞🏽🤞🏽
Sorry about the phone. But it was a very well done test and video. I honestly think all the choices would be sufficient for defense at the proper range.
Thank you Bcc again
Thank you so much my friend! I agree, all great choices indeed 🙏🏽 phone fixed already, pheeew that was a scare!
Sorry but it altso shoots Devestators . You can only load one at a time but tjek it out you just put them ind from the opening in the side. 😊 Nice show Guys ❤
Congrats on the 10k brother!!
Thank you so much Brian!!! I’m very blessed :)
Thanks! Really considering starting my own air gun channel, any advice?
Good question. Just study how youtube works and make good videos that are helpful to others :)
Hi again! I just realized that you sent me a Superthanks! So here’s a SUPERTHANKS back! And pls let me know if you ever have more specific questions on how to make your channel happen…
I had the same idea, but then I remembered my area is designated for low income housing because now there's kids on trampolines everywhere I look 😱
Suggestion: can you brace the plywood on opposite sides, like an improvised tunnel? It may brace the boards better and give you better penetration
Very good point! For now I bought more of those metal corers and will try to fix the boards better on three sides. If that is still sketchy, then I’ll have to add another wall… a project in the making :)
Thanks as always my friend!
Oh man I'm so sorry about your phone! I'm betting you are super sad because of the loss in time and money this caused!
Hi Scott!! Thank you so much! It was a very sad moment and it sure hurt the wallet a little. But luckily I was able to find a repairing service that brought it back to new :)
Thank you again!!
My HDB68 will be here Friday
Finally!! 🙌🏼 you’re going to love it my friend
I got my hdb 68 today and what cannon
Great Vid. Im so sorry because Your Phone ... Greetings from Bavaria/Germany
Danke my friend!! I was able to get it fixed… so I’m happy again 😎 thank you again and have a great day Peter!
Gratters brother for 10.000 Subscribres!! Wonderful test I sorry about the Phone!! Until for next video!!!
Thank you so much my friend!! And no worries, phone already fixed :) til the next one!! 🙌🏼
That is one cool blaster! Sorry about the phone :( Hope you get a plexiglass shield to protect your next phone :D Then It might also be safe from Spagetti O juice :D Thanks for another great Video :D
Yesss plexiglass, now that’s a great idea!! I thought the armored phone casing would’ve done it. And it did, for over a year. But yesterday’s attack was too fierce. 😩
Thank you my friend!
In Hawaii, it's illegal to shoot coconuts without a license... Sorry about your phone my friend.
Hahahahaha! I’m sure it is! I would never ever shoot a coconut in that beautiful state!! And I much appreciate it man!
I’m confused and surprised that the joules of energy varied so widely among the various projectiles. I have always held the belief that joules is largely dependent on the air gun and not the projectile. That a lighter projectile will go faster and a heavier projectile will go slower but both would carry approximately the same amount of energy when fired from the same air gun.
Hi Thomas! I agree with you and my conclusion is that the only consistency with these markers is their inconsistency.
Absolutely true on the gun making the joules and not the projectiles. Other than the fitting factor, of course. If the slug doesn’t seal well it’ll obviously gain much less speed/power.
As you know I usually shoot various shots thru the chrono per test. In this case I only shot one. So we had to rely on what the single reading told us. Which, again, can not be the most accurate.
The first shots should always be more powerful as the seal and chamber are not that frozen yet. The more you shoot the colder everything gets, and that brings the power down a bit. So that also could play in.
That’s my take on it :)
I need this send specs and info @@AirgunAlley
My HDB jams all the time … Thinking about selling it
Got me sold Bro
Great testing,thanks.
Thank you Bruce!! 🙌🏼
@@AirgunAlley Any tips on how to stop the double loading on the HDB(Other than single loading)?
Hey dude..
If a friend of mine had scared me with his hdb 68 and then said " hey , i was kidding " , i would aim at hdb 68 with my pcp and shoot and have fun..
Meanwhile ; Does the hdb 68 look like a paintball rifle?.. or am I wrong? The mechanism is very similar.
it's like they dressed the paintball rifle and called it hdb 68..
Hahahaha! Damn friends with hdb 68s! 😂
So yes, the HDB 68 - like the whole T4E family - is a paintball launcher.
And just as you said, Umarex decided to dress up these launchers as Home Defence weapons. That’s why most T4E guns surpass the power/speed limits for playing paintball.
And that’s why now you find all kinds of projectiles that are more painful than a paintball
Don't forget the 50cal First Strike paintballs with skirts in the mag fed guns
Hey AAM and friends 👋🇨🇦🇺🇲
I wipe my ass with Joe Biden
Hello there my friend from the north!
So what ammo do you personally think is the best that does the most damage
I say the aluminum 68 cal balls!
Sorry about your phone. i broke mine last mo too.
Oh man, I feel your tragedy! 🙌🏼💪🏼
How many joules is your HDB68? Do they still sell this model? How many rounds do you get per co2 cart?
Nice video I'd go with a max of 6-8 gram rounds for that launcher you'd get better power
Very good point my friend! I just shot a lot of 68 cal at the ballistic dummy with HDR 68 tuned up at similar power (it disfigured the dummy) - and the best performing ammo were the 7g aluminum balls
The HDB 68 has the ability to lay down a massive amount of pepper very quickly! 16 rounds! I would likely alternate pepper balls and 10g metal rounds to cover the possibility of different defensive scenarios. I regard these defensive tools as launchers first as any physical damage to a perp is grounds for a potentially devastating lawsuit. In many places around the U.S., including my hometown of Rochester, NY, women are suing the city, claiming their menstrual cycles have been disrupted following exposure to pepper spray used by police during the 2020 "peaceful protests." Of course, the first reaction might be, "What complete nonsense!" However, if you are the individual being sued, it can be quite expensive and quite serious. That's just one illustration of how messed up our ability to defend ourselves has become. Using a firearm today, even if you are a police officer involved in a justified shooting, can create all kinds of personal difficulties and financial blowback. I'm just suggesting that we all use our brains in trying to figure out how we're going to defend ourselves and our loved ones and our property with the awesome tools available to us.
Sempre più belli i tuoi video,ottima qualità video,ottima musica e mix🎉 inoltre interessante la comparazione tra le varie munizioni così saprò quali preferirò comprare per me.....l'unica cosa che mi sembra troppa differenza di joule con il primo tipo di munizioni che ha generato più di 40joule....20 di differenza in media con gli altri
Grande Turi!! Ti ringrazio tantissimo… si questa è stata modificata alla grande. Questo video è parte della “vecchia collezione” dove usavo armi modificate. Dovevo farmi notare all’inizio ahahaha
Da qualche mese ho deciso di fare video solo su prodotti come escono dalla fabrica. Dunque dovrebbero essere più realiztici per tutti :)
Grazie ancora Salvo
Muito bom 👍😉toujours un grand plaisir de regarder vos vidéos. Vous êtes au top 👍😎
Danile, merci tres beaucoup! Your words are always incredibly encouraging. Thank you!
@@AirgunAlley de rien ç est normal vous êtes je pense un vrai passionné et une belle personne 👍☺
Ballistic All vs Coconut contest s are coming👍
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Good work champ
Thank you very much, sir!!
Not only ball ammunition. You can stick some others right in the chamber as an first greeting 😂
10:45 my brain stopped working... The tin says 10gr ... GR is the symbol for grains not grams 🤔 10 g = 154,324 gr
Hahaha good point! In Europe we use gr often to indicate grams. I think that’s why 🤔
@@AirgunAlley confusing stuff lol
Awesome videos. Congrats. At 7:13 minuts, what's the name of the song?
Thanks a lot Allan! So that’s not really a song per se. It’s music that is available on a rights-free music app called Soundstripe. This particular guitar riff one is by an artist called “Westlander”
Soon 20,000 subscribers
🙌🏼 to that Alan!
Sorry about your phone bro!
Thanks bro! I was able to get it fixed thankfully. That sure was a big scare!
@@AirgunAlley I understand bro!
Thanks 😊
Thank you, my dear Alan! 🙌🏼
Were you shooting the 16J version of the gun?
Nice job on the demo. Currios, what is the bore size of the barrel? How many shots on one co2 ??
Ever time I watch one of your vids, wish I was back living on Miami Beach.
Hahahaha! I’m glad to bring you back to the good old Miami days ☀️ I’m not sure what the exact size is. Good question. I think it’s slightly larger that .680 - but will have to research it better
Thanks for this new video 💀👍
My absolute pleasure my friend! Thank you
@@AirgunAlley Thanks to you my friend. Hi from France 💀👍
It's unfortunate the steel balls are only 17mm wit is far smaller then any other ball hence why only 14 joules they are spots smaller if all same diameter ball then you'd get appox same joules. Bore matched steel bearings are the best I use 11/16 balls they.6875 or 17.4mm and are 21.7 grams 500 for 75$ on Amazon right now
Great input and well said! Thanks for this 🙌🏼
I need one
23:17 noooooooooooooooooooooo
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What version is this my friend? the 16 joule?
Hello there! I think this originally was a 7,5 joules and the guy who modified it made it a monster haha
Great video!
Good video but I do metal fabrication and welding I know how to bullet proof prep store fronts with bullet resistant panels your targets are held down on one side and the bottom giving flex to the top and other side and the weight is off so your getting poor results when you shoot your targets.
Thank you James and indeed you hit the nail on the head (to be expected from a welder 😂)… I bought more of the metal fixings but haven’t mounted them yet. Next time, the boards will be much better fixed on three corners. Very good point and thanks again!
Binge watching your videos... ooh sorry about the phone... and now a question. So which round on this video or otherwise is best for less lethal true home defense with my HDB 68... both steal and OC/pepper balls as I like to mix?
So which Bullets are now the best for home defence?
I always suggest to use a variety which include aluminum balls, ballbearing slugs, pointy slugs and pepper balls. This way you have most bases covered :)
No!! Wtf you smoked the phone!! Shit lol well... The show must go on
The slow must go on! Ahaha thanks Brian, I ended up getting it fixed… so we’re back on track!
Great as always, but chill with the commercials :0)
Thanks man, but commercials are the only thing that will keep me going… so if anything… we need more!
@@AirgunAlley I see and understand,, i'll keep on supporting you.. Keep up the great work :0)
😂🤣great video!!!!🤙🏼🤜🏼🤛🏼
I got this gun outa the box 16j. How do I get it to 40 j ? Love from Canada 🇨🇦
Great question! I’m going to turn you over to your fellow Canadian expert Jeff, who has this very informative channel youtube.com/@umarext4elesslethalhomedef872
Also check out Rune Rebel’s channel!
Good luck!
How do I go about getting one of those I really like that I like added to my collection with the 2 I got the handgun I also got the double barrel version but also want to shot gun version Can you please tell me how thank you
Absolutely my friend! You can actually find it on Amazon amzn.to/3Y3hpJO
Sounds like you need to add one of this to your nice collection! Good luck and have fun
GREETINGS SIR REALLY ENJOY YOUR CHANNEL & A PROUD SUBSCRIBER !! LIKE TO ASK I HAVE AN UMAREX HDB 68 SHOTGUN 50+ JOULES . WITH THE CO2 CARTS MAY I ASK ABOUT HOW MUCH PSI DO YOU GET FROM EACH ONE ? AND I'M LOOKING TO ADD AN HPA TANK FOR THIS MARKER TO ADD MORE POWER IS THERE SOMEONE OR SOMEWHERE YOU CAN RECOMMEND WHERE I CAN GET AN HPA TANK & ADAPTOR ? THANK YOU FOR YOUR HELP & THE GREAT VIDEOS ..👍
Hi my friend!! Allow me to refer you to this channel, which surely has all the answers! The host, Jeff, is a true artist and engineer youtube.com/@umarext4elesslethalhomedefense?si=iEA564yYoDeXeLcL
10.000 follower...gratulation Dude👍👍👍
Thank you Marco!! A great feeling to have reached such a hardworked milestone :)
@@AirgunAlley every follover for ur hard work and improving quality.... Ure doin a great job dude👊
Félicitations pour tes 10000 abonnés 👏
Aurais-tu la possibilité de faire un comparatif entre le HDS avec les projectiles pointus ZRAM et le HDB avec les Rubber Steel Balls de HomDefence 24 ?
Merci pour tes vidéos...
Merci beaucoup! That’s a hood idea. But my HDS is very weak compared to the HDB. I’m afraid it will be hard to get a clear idea of their differences. But I”ll try! Thank you again!
Hello my friend! Question: can we put a slug through the hdb window? TKS😉
Good question! I think I was able to stick a devastator in there once. But it’s not something I would recommend as it’s not the most simple operation… but again, great question! And thank you
@@AirgunAlley Thank you for answering 👍✌️
Good Stuff !!!
Thank you very much sir!
Do you have a link for the holder that you have the hdb sitting on?
Yessir! amzn.to/3Mf60SE Enjoy my friend :)
@@AirgunAlley Thanks
@@AirgunAlley I added it to my cart. Will you still get the percentage on then link when I check out at a later day?
quer bela arma hum verdadeiro canhao maginifica ja deixdei olike eo 27
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Hola hermano cuantos jules tiene esa hdb68
Ok..now i saw the whole video....im sad for ur phone dude....but i see...ure livin in paradise...and i never had a roomtoor...greetings from dyin shithole germany.
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Hello my friend! And thank you! Hang in there, I know Germany is not the best in January (at least for me), hang in there!
Danke Marco!
Congrats buddy. 10k is a nice place to be. Keep on truckin. Only shoots balls? Does that mean if someone breaks into my house, I can only shoot him in the balls? I guess, if I get one of those there guns I will have to practice. Any volunteers? 😜. Oh, oh. You shot your iPhone. May it 🪦😢. Well that will certainly increase your costs of making these videos. So sorry, my friend. Hey, at least you destroyed some more Spagetti-Os. Love that gun, love the video. See ya next round.
Always aim for the balls!! Especially if they’re steel! 😂😂 thank you my friend! Big bummer for the phone… now let’s see what I have to do to fix it 🤞🏽🤞🏽
Til the next one and…. Where can I find your music??
@@AirgunAlley where can you find my music? Good question. If you do happen to find it, would you be so kind to as to let me know. 😂 it’s a long story that, in some way, ends with an injury to my left thumb that now makes it very difficult to play guitar without a lot of discomfort and at times, a lot of pain. Years ago, my brother and I owned a recording studio. It was sooo much fun. I even recorded two songs. I had recorded them for my wife, then fiancé. So, all plans are on hold, but looks like it’s over as I have tendinitis in the thumb which makes it near impossible to play. But, I had a good ride while it lasted. Recording, playing in bands. Oh well, that’s life. Take care. See you on the Tube.
what's the diameter of 68 cal balls? is it 17.1mm?
16 joules?
No… this one was modified. 16 joules hits pretty hard as well tho
Don't they got some loading pinns, to drop them pellets quick n also some bigger CO2 capsels is needed!!
I think you’re thinking of the HDX 68 which has both ;)
@@AirgunAlley Thanx 4 quick answer! Apresiated.
So my question is that since there's bigger capasitys with CO2 capsels, are there diferenses in sizes. Like can you fit them in to hanle of umarex TR50 or Bravo A's grip?
Been meaning to ask you, what sunglasses are you wearing? What's the brand???
Haha you know? They’re so requested these glasses that I even put the link in the description. They’re pretty cool and very cheap :) 😎 My safety glasses: amzn.to/3e2DAxX
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Greetings from Andorra.
Dear friend, you live in a country where the use of firearms is very widespread. I would like to know your opinion to this comment.
Every day I have more doubts about whether these Umarex type weapons really serve as a defense in a real situation.
Because I say this, well, one thing is to shoot a watermelon or shoot a coconut and another very different thing is a real risk situation.
In a real danger situation, there is a factor that I think is decisive, it is called adrenaline and as we all know almost everything that ends in INE is some type of drug.
A real situation of a normal type, two types entering a house (it is very common for 2 or more people to enter) to avoid being recognized by the surveillance cameras that many people have, they wear motorcycle helmets, and the clothes they wear It includes something very normal, a leather jacket.
Here we already have a very serious problem:
2 - Intruders
Without pretending it turns out that they are protected
And surely they are armed with real weapons.
Now we heard a noise and we appear on the scene armed with our UMAREX weapon.
This is going to provoke is that adrenaline levels in intruders and also in us are triggered, that added to your clothes will hardly notice the strength of an impact of our shot.
We can see this in real life, where a soldier can take many minutes to realize that he has been injured by a (real) shot.
And if all this were not enough, the intruders will not be able to distinguish if our weapon is not lethal and automatically respond to our action with real firearms, shots that can easily cross a wall of a house.
I really think you have to seriously value risks.
That’s a very good point Manel. I always say that these should always be considered as the very, very last resort.
As you said, in the US you have a much, much higher chance of being confronted by people with real firearms. Never ever pull out a less lethal in that case.
They make less sense here indeed. But for those who really don’t want a firearm (or can’t, as many point out) this can be the alternative.
Now, if you fear of multiple guys with helmets coming into your house, well I would try to change neighborhood 😬 or indeed buy a real gun hahahaha.
The scenarios are unlimited and these, I believe, can be useful only in a handful of cases. They’re definitely more effective in areas like Europe.
Finally, pepper balls are truly what everyone should keep loaded in their HDRs. Those are an incredibly higher guarantee :)
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Thanks for your tips.
That people can enter your home, either with a helmet or with a clown mask does not depend on the neighborhood, surely if the prey is better and more attractive the prize will be better 😂😂
But I totally agree with you and I also believe that there is an irrefutable proof that demonstrates this theory.
1 - If the UMAREX type weapons could really leave K.O. A person without killing her, don't you think the assailants of a house or a gas station would use them? For a simple reason, that may be the dieference of many many years of condemnation in case the thing goes wrong. If they don't use them, it's because they really don't work if the other part is scared, wielding a real revolver.
Regarding what you say about pepper gas I think the same and really that kind of weapons, are used by the police since those weapons like the JPX Piexon can really stop a person (even if they wear helmets will have to breathe)
Chauuuuuuu
What was that rack you had the shotgun on?
It's awesome! amzn.to/3Y20VBw :)
Ciao 🖐️ puoi consigliarmi un sito dove poter acquistare le armi da te presentate nei tuoi video?.. grazie mille!
Ciao Paolo! Tutto dipende da dove ti trovi. In America trovi tutto su Amazon. Metto sempre tutti i link nella descrizione sotto al video. In Europa credo la miglior maniera sia cercare un negozio su google. In bocca al lupo!
@@AirgunAlley io mi trovo in Sardegna (Italia)
hello, what happened to the rifle that broke down?
Helloo my friend! I think it blew a seal or an O-ring. The rifle is brand new so I’m waiting for the warranty to take care of it. This is the video where it happened :( Dragon Claw accuracy experience with .308 bullets by Cododo
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@@AirgunAlley I saw the clip immediately, I'm the one who asked for the clip to shoot accurately
@@otyice190 that’s right!! I just re-read your comment :) Let’s hope AirVenturi will reply to me. I’ve been calling/writing them for 10 days now
Wait..... it only shoots balls....... ? so you have to shoot em in the groin....... ?
Hahaha absolutely! Especially of they’re steel.
I get asked A LOT if ppl can shoot devastators out of this. Thus my highlighting ONLY SHOOTS BALLS :)