Hold your throttle all the way to the floor when you go to start it. It won’t start the car and it will prime the motor with oil pressure. It’s a hidden gem that Ford did.
@@lest187 I just did the bsd on my car about 3 days ago and even though I don’t notice a difference in the rpms while reving the engine ,you will notice when you are driving @ full throttle there is a difference there. It does feel a bit torquier
Because the dual mass flywheel is likely storing far more rotational energy potential than the balance shaft. Delete the shaft and install a single mass flywheel and you will probably notice a difference. These people that claim they are feeling more power are completely deluded by placebo. A colder ambient temperature will give more power than this will.
Is it a good idea to pre-fill the filter? Probably ¯\_(ツ)_/¯. Have I ever done it, or seen anyone other than you do it? No. Will I think of doing more than 'lubing the ring' tomorrow while changing my oil? Yep. Now I can't not do it. Thanks for giving me something else to do that I never wanted to stress over.... You win. Well played, sirs. Well played.
For the Focus people out there, if you hold down the throttle when starting your car, it won't start, it will just turn over and over again so you can prime your engine with oil after and oil change.
Does this kit work for the 2.3s that they put in the 04-whatever NA mazda 3s? Ive got an 04 rebuild bored out to a 3.0 and i need to do some work to fix the oiling issues these have. And this seems to be the kit. But that oil pan shroud didnt look right
I’m Ford certified tech , let me tell you that those balance shaft , the real reason those are there is for the engine to have better power transition when shifting,. This balance shaft act more like a weighted down flywheel . Without having the issue of having more weight on one side of the engine that’s why they are ubicated under the crankshaft.
@@msinna6433 i wouldn’t buy a focus myself. Ford has a better market in the truck/muscle car side of business , their smaller engines don’t do that good.
Do you have location of the temp sensor that turns the fan on a 2014 st. My issue is the car will begin to over heat sitting. If ac is on the ac will blow hot and the fan will turn off. Not sure if the vents close yet. Have not checked. The fan Module was replaced and no difference. Any help will be appreciated. Can't find a schematic.
I honestly need to know, did you even track your car enough to need to perform a balanced shaft delete... I mean if you went over every other source of gaining horsepower and then went to gain the little bit from this ok... But if it's daily driven and not a track car... Id just let it be. Not worth the hassle or the extra discomfort.
Nice one. Great humour throughout and food for thought on getting this mod done eventually (maybe - there are a few cautious warning comments I see). Can I ask what the background music was to this also please?
BSD is mainly for more oil which in turn means longer oil life. Also the baffled pan keep oil in place during sharp turns and WOT, preventing starvation from the oil pick up.
Hi i got s max ecoboost 2l automactic! i would like to know will it be safe to remove balance shaft and delete it (cap it), aswell i normally put 5.5l of oil so how much extra oil will i need to put in now?
I did this years ago to a Neon engine (pause for laughter...) And lost the engine the first long corner due to no baffle. I'd like to do this to my ST, but it's a daily driver. Have you noticed any changes in NVH? I don't recall much difference in the Neon, but it was a Neon...
Great video “I’m talking about the guys personality”, but that’s a lot of work for nothing. Snake oil part. You would have gotten more if you would’ve bought a down pipe, and way easier. Don’t buy every bs part you see online or company sends you. And FYI did anyone notice any difference on the rev? 😂 😂 see how the revs hang around 4K .... and the revs continues to hang around 4K after all that work. 😂
@@OmarFlowTv This isn't a mod you do "instead of" or perhaps even beforehand. It's a mod you do once you've pretty much done all the other stuff. Neutral you're not really doing to see it but at WOT and higher speeds it 100% makes a different. That rev hang thing though ... it's all software. lol That shit can be turned off with your tune.
yall didnt show how too do shit man really upsetting fr no help at all and camera man no help either sorry too b rude but yall really need too redo this video 100% over.
I've got a 500 hp focus st and I've never done a balance delete. To me it just doesn't seem worth it in any capacity. It's alot of work, and quite frankly a bit of money for something that could have made a bigger difference. Another 100 bucks can get you an intercooler which helps WAY more. I also don't see how it can help the motor in any way. Sure less rotating mass, but at the same time it could also be used / purposed as a form of monitor to help keep the crank balanced at least. 18 lbs in the long run really isn't going to make that huge of a difference, and id rather use the money / energy towards something that could make it either more reliable, or for a larger more impactful mod like a big turbo.
@@sonofnothing your making the argument that this helps produce way more power or that it revs significantly faster. It doesn't in either case. So why go to the trouble of doing it? Use the money elsewhere and save your time for that other mod. I just don't understand why people think this is such a fantastic idea when in reality it's a huge waste of time and money for a result that is negligible at best.
@@Sheriff_McPants When did I remotely argue that this "helps produce way more power"? I said, and I'll say it again, it's about oil capacity, in conjunction with the baffle (which helps prevent sloshing of oil, thus protecting the bearings). I'm also not arguing that it's some MUST-HAVE mod. I, myself, have my BS. I'm just saying thay the '5hp' (margin of error if you ask me), is NOT the main attravtion of this mod, despite all of the negative comments regarding '5 hp'. Take care.
No….just…no…y’all act like y’all gonna be running against 800-1000HP Z06, ZL1s and hellcats. It’s a fucking little focus ST. Relax with the ridiculous “mods”.
No one's acting like anything. You're the one talking about Hellcats and V8s and comparing apples to oranges. But go on, tell me more about how you drive a slow car. lol
Would love to see a bearing and clutch inspection after 50k. This is a mod for people who don't understand how harmonics work. DO NOT DO THIS MOD ON A DAILY! Apparently these guys know more than the engineers designing an engine. You guys need to remove this video or add a warning. It's not common for a reason...
The crankshaft is balanced from factory. The harmonic dampener pulley balances any irregularities within the crankshaft. The balance shaft merely deadens the natural NVH created by a 4 cylinder engine; as it isn’t perfectly smooth running. Removing the balance shaft does not affect the harmonics within the engine, merely the NVH to the driver. Same as installing a lightweight flywheel. Removing rotating mass, that doesn’t affect the balance or wear on the main bearings.
This mod is actually common, it removes rotating mass, increases oil capacity by some 2 quarts, and if you don't want to do it, then don't do it. Easy.
Hold your throttle all the way to the floor when you go to start it. It won’t start the car and it will prime the motor with oil pressure. It’s a hidden gem that Ford did.
Does this work for mazda mzr engines too?
Straight to the ketchup
@@mooker93 yes it does.
This sounds.... fake and bad? Is this real?
@@bluejay3140 Google it for whatever model ford you have. I promise I’m not lying. My moms 2017 explorer does it.
That is ALOT of work for 5hp.
Well, don't forget the 2 quarts of oil capacity gained. 😉
Am I really the only person that does not notice any difference in the rpms 🙆🏽♂️
I literally went back and forth to see the difference but didn't see one bit change unfortunately..
@@lest187 I just did the bsd on my car about 3 days ago and even though I don’t notice a difference in the rpms while reving the engine ,you will notice when you are driving @ full throttle there is a difference there. It does feel a bit torquier
Agreed
Yeah idk how you would really. Throttle response I bet you would though
Because the dual mass flywheel is likely storing far more rotational energy potential than the balance shaft. Delete the shaft and install a single mass flywheel and you will probably notice a difference. These people that claim they are feeling more power are completely deluded by placebo. A colder ambient temperature will give more power than this will.
To this day, Freddy still has like 10 cars to work on
Is it a good idea to pre-fill the filter? Probably ¯\_(ツ)_/¯. Have I ever done it, or seen anyone other than you do it? No. Will I think of doing more than 'lubing the ring' tomorrow while changing my oil? Yep. Now I can't not do it. Thanks for giving me something else to do that I never wanted to stress over.... You win. Well played, sirs. Well played.
I’d be curious to know what affect it has on the NVH. Like is the increase in NVH as noticeable as the increase in rev timing?
I preloaded my air filter with oil, I'm not sure it did much..car doesnt run as good tbo
genuinely high quality channel, easy subscription. and an ST owner of all people, keep reppin the club :)
If you know anything about 2.3 and 2.5 duratec engines you'd know that this is a VERY common mod
For the Focus people out there, if you hold down the throttle when starting your car, it won't start, it will just turn over and over again so you can prime your engine with oil after and oil change.
Tavarish starting that lambo lol
Wish you guys were still making videos for this channel. This was legit one of the funnest (perhaps THE funnest) FoST video I've ever seen.
Drilling holes for tapping screws with a power drill?! Insanity. Looks good though.
Yooooooo! Make some more content I love it!
Does this kit work for the 2.3s that they put in the 04-whatever NA mazda 3s? Ive got an 04 rebuild bored out to a 3.0 and i need to do some work to fix the oiling issues these have. And this seems to be the kit. But that oil pan shroud didnt look right
Always prime the filter!
Prime it bro All the way
I heard my Evoque has that 2.0T in it,how do I upgrade?
Use scuff pads to remove old RTV. Takes it right off.
Definitely not necessary to prefill the oil filter. Especially on a tiny little 910
What tires are on that at ? I’m looking to get new ones
you dont have to pre fill the filters, thats why ford has a prep start feature
I can do this in my 2012 se?
I’m Ford certified tech , let me tell you that those balance shaft , the real reason those are there is for the engine to have better power transition when shifting,. This balance shaft act more like a weighted down flywheel . Without having the issue of having more weight on one side of the engine that’s why they are ubicated under the crankshaft.
As a Ford tech, do you think the focus is a reliable car?
@@msinna6433 i wouldn’t buy a focus myself. Ford has a better market in the truck/muscle car side of business , their smaller engines don’t do that good.
Do you increase the chances of causing engine failure from harmonics if you delete the balance shaft, install a lighter flywheel and twin disc clutch?
I've done 100 oil changes, and I've filled the filter up every time. 🤷🏻♂️
Yes Pre-oil
What happened to steeds intercooler?
I’m not gonna lie, Jordan looks a little wasted in this video.
Carwizard looks weird here
Do you have location of the temp sensor that turns the fan on a 2014 st. My issue is the car will begin to over heat sitting. If ac is on the ac will blow hot and the fan will turn off. Not sure if the vents close yet. Have not checked. The fan Module was replaced and no difference. Any help will be appreciated. Can't find a schematic.
How much you guys want to do this job on my ST? I don’t have a shop..
Drill press bro drill press
I do not recommend removing balance shafts in a 4 cylinder. You’re sacrificing bearing life for like 2hp
bullshit ,learn how an 4 cyl is balanced and what a balance shaft actually does
You're not doing it to gain HP. You're doing it to get increased throttle response and on these engines, people swear by them.
You're funny bro lol
I honestly need to know, did you even track your car enough to need to perform a balanced shaft delete... I mean if you went over every other source of gaining horsepower and then went to gain the little bit from this ok... But if it's daily driven and not a track car... Id just let it be. Not worth the hassle or the extra discomfort.
It's not for 5 hp. It's for like 2 extra quarts of oil capacity, and a bit more freely revving engine, under load.
@@sonofnothing not to mention not having pounds of out of balance material swinging at 14k rpm to fail and kill the motor.
Nice one. Great humour throughout and food for thought on getting this mod done eventually (maybe - there are a few cautious warning comments I see). Can I ask what the background music was to this also please?
Where did you buy the kit? Could you please share any link?
Mountune sells one pre installed with a new oil pan for $200.00 maybe $180.00. Just gotta add the BSD plug.
hey, can anyone help me with one question - will it work also on automatic? And where I can buy this? thx
The rotating parts probably don't weigh 2 pounds
Please help what size did you tap for the baffle plate
I think it is usually 3.5hp saving ,
If you wanted 5-10 hp buy a k&n filter 😂😂
The balance shagy delete makes it so the engine can hold 2 more quarts of oil. It's barely about the 5hp at all...
That will maybe you get 1hp. This is less rotational mass
BSD is mainly for more oil which in turn means longer oil life. Also the baffled pan keep oil in place during sharp turns and WOT, preventing starvation from the oil pick up.
does anyone know if this is also on the RS
Absolutely
I don’t fill my filter up.
Your poor dry started engine
@@knifelover73 you dont need to prep them when they literally have a prep crank lol
@@AutoSteps tf is a prep crank
knifelover73 hold the gas pedal while cranking and it just spins engine over running oil through it
@@AutoSteps well that doesn’t mitigate the dry spot from having an empty oil filter but it certainly helps.
Would this be good for an se Focus ? As well
I wouldn't recommend it, especially if it's an automatic.
I honestly didnt see any difference. Save yourself the money, labor and vibrations And leave your BS in.
All that for what, Really?
how MUCH power are we talking
2 quarts of oil
Hi i got s max ecoboost 2l automactic! i would like to know will it be safe to remove balance shaft and delete it (cap it), aswell i normally put 5.5l of oil so how much extra oil will i need to put in now?
I wouldn't chance it, unless someone else has already done it!
@@DEADPEDAL
I have removed the balance shaft and put the delete cap on, an added 1litre off oil,
6.5 litre trust me it have made a big difference,
In total 6.5 litre in total in s max ecoboost 2.l ecoboost,
Just to be clear,
I did this years ago to a Neon engine (pause for laughter...) And lost the engine the first long corner due to no baffle.
I'd like to do this to my ST, but it's a daily driver. Have you noticed any changes in NVH? I don't recall much difference in the Neon, but it was a Neon...
And, yes, I pre fill my filters always whenever possible.
The balance delete seems slower to rev up .
What size drill bit and what size thread do I need?
Great video “I’m talking about the guys personality”, but that’s a lot of work for nothing. Snake oil part. You would have gotten more if you would’ve bought a down pipe, and way easier. Don’t buy every bs part you see online or company sends you. And FYI did anyone notice any difference on the rev? 😂 😂 see how the revs hang around 4K .... and the revs continues to hang around 4K after all that work. 😂
I believe the Ford ECM limits revs to 4000 in neutral while stationary , so its not a fault
@@mac4boys541 did you watch the video? That what they said, I was just making fun of them. 🤦🏽♂️
@@mac4boys541 I can rev all the way to 6500 in neutral?
@@OmarFlowTv This isn't a mod you do "instead of" or perhaps even beforehand. It's a mod you do once you've pretty much done all the other stuff.
Neutral you're not really doing to see it but at WOT and higher speeds it 100% makes a different.
That rev hang thing though ... it's all software. lol That shit can be turned off with your tune.
2013-14 don't need to be drill holes its got factory baffling installed massive balance shaft delete kit bolts right in
It’s not worth it and it makes your engine wear out sooner , you will be sorry if you do it !
It saves your engine. all balance shaft do are counter rotate so the engine vibrates less. Some engines a bs failure will take out tbe engine
yall didnt show how too do shit man really upsetting fr no help at all and camera man no help either sorry too b rude but yall really need too redo this video 100% over.
I've got a 500 hp focus st and I've never done a balance delete. To me it just doesn't seem worth it in any capacity. It's alot of work, and quite frankly a bit of money for something that could have made a bigger difference. Another 100 bucks can get you an intercooler which helps WAY more. I also don't see how it can help the motor in any way. Sure less rotating mass, but at the same time it could also be used / purposed as a form of monitor to help keep the crank balanced at least. 18 lbs in the long run really isn't going to make that huge of a difference, and id rather use the money / energy towards something that could make it either more reliable, or for a larger more impactful mod like a big turbo.
You can add 2 more quarts of oil to the motor. 🤷🏻♂️ And intercooler doesn't help with that.
@@sonofnothing reduce weight and then add it back in, in the form of oil. Genius.
@@Sheriff_McPants remove 20 pounds, to add 2 quarts of oil, which weighs 4lb. It's about the baffle, and oil capacity.
@@sonofnothing your making the argument that this helps produce way more power or that it revs significantly faster. It doesn't in either case. So why go to the trouble of doing it? Use the money elsewhere and save your time for that other mod. I just don't understand why people think this is such a fantastic idea when in reality it's a huge waste of time and money for a result that is negligible at best.
@@Sheriff_McPants When did I remotely argue that this "helps produce way more power"? I said, and I'll say it again, it's about oil capacity, in conjunction with the baffle (which helps prevent sloshing of oil, thus protecting the bearings).
I'm also not arguing that it's some MUST-HAVE mod. I, myself, have my BS. I'm just saying thay the '5hp' (margin of error if you ask me), is NOT the main attravtion of this mod, despite all of the negative comments regarding '5 hp'.
Take care.
No….just…no…y’all act like y’all gonna be running against 800-1000HP Z06, ZL1s and hellcats. It’s a fucking little focus ST. Relax with the ridiculous “mods”.
No one's acting like anything. You're the one talking about Hellcats and V8s and comparing apples to oranges.
But go on, tell me more about how you drive a slow car. lol
Would love to see a bearing and clutch inspection after 50k. This is a mod for people who don't understand how harmonics work. DO NOT DO THIS MOD ON A DAILY! Apparently these guys know more than the engineers designing an engine. You guys need to remove this video or add a warning. It's not common for a reason...
The crankshaft is balanced from factory. The harmonic dampener pulley balances any irregularities within the crankshaft.
The balance shaft merely deadens the natural NVH created by a 4 cylinder engine; as it isn’t perfectly smooth running.
Removing the balance shaft does not affect the harmonics within the engine, merely the NVH to the driver. Same as installing a lightweight flywheel. Removing rotating mass, that doesn’t affect the balance or wear on the main bearings.
Engineers are 99% of the time limited by budget, emissions and comfort.
This mod is actually common, it removes rotating mass, increases oil capacity by some 2 quarts, and if you don't want to do it, then don't do it. Easy.
does it need more oil afterwards?
I'd like to know this as well.
Paul Routhier it says in the kit it increases it by .5 Qt
@@niccthrowitback Awesome, thank you!
Maybe add a dry sump ? Would this vibrate the car apart
With the balance shaft delete an W/ the fl-400s oil filter it go’s to a 7 quart system.