Post-WW2 Anti-Fascist Educational Film from 1947 | A History Teacher Reacts
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- Mr. Terry checks out an Anti-Fascism educational film created by the United States government from 1947? Will it be cringe?
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The message was unexpectedly timeless. The basic lesson was how a political party can manipulate a majority population using hatred. It was good. I posted it on social media.
And don’t forget, manipulating a devastated country. Here, Germany is suffering the consequences of WW1, taking all the blame of the war when it should’ve been Austria-Hungary or the group the assassin of the Archduke was a part of. Germany may have committed war crimes in WW1 but if you take to account, Germans had it rough after WW1. Losing a lot of territory, economy crashing, it was like the Great Depression over there. So when Hitler and his party came in, they actually got people to support them because they were desperate for better living conditions…and of course they needed scapegoats for why they had to suffer
spread the word tell the truth about maga trump
*Our divided country needs to hear this video now more than ever.*
AND NOW THE TRUMP CULT ARE NOW SUCKERS FOR TRUMPLER
WHAT A CLOWN CULT
I think this was actually one of the best propaganda pieces i have ever seen, because instead of blowing things out of proportions, it does take a rather sober, mature, and informative approach to the subject matter and how extremism works in general, rather than try to paint a ridiculous picture of the other ideology.
I honestly think this could easily be a relevant video to show today, in terms of discussing how extremist rethoric can take hold in a society, and the points it makes about EVERYONE belonging to a minority, is a damn good message to put out there, without insisting that "america!" or "capitalism is best!"
This may have been progressive for its time, but the message itself is highly relevant in any era. Even if the people of 1947 were not truly living up to this film's statement, the message itself was correct. Just like the Founding Fathers didn't always live up to the principles they espoused in our founding documents, even seeming downright hypocritical, that doesn't make the principles themselves bad or wrong.
Wrong. It's totally irrelevant in any era, especially today.
@@melchior2678Wrong. It’s totally relevant in any era, especially today.
>is it propaganda
Absolutely
>is it however a very good message that makes a difficult subject easy to swallow
Absolutely
well put
Propaganda isn't always evil. We just associate the word with evil totalitarian states.
@@prestonjones1653 Propaganda is by definition a bad thing. It tells you convenient truths that are meant to indoctrinate you with an pre-formed opionion instead of forming that opinion yourself. Any opinion you just take on without critically thinking about it isn't worth a grain of salt.
@@Finsternis..
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The more ypou think propaganda is good the more you prove you're brainwashed by it
As Fred Hampton said, “Nothing is more important than stopping fascism ‘cause fascism will stop us all.”
@Salty Nicholas Pride do you know who Fred Hampton is
He’s not wrong. Fascism is the most destructive ideology out there.
@@LordBaldur
USA Anti Fascism ww2
USA Anti communist cold war
@@ronalddino6370 yeah but the problem seems to be that people don’t understand this. History literally shows us. Yet we choose to allow it anyway…
I met someone wearing an “antifa” t shirt yesterday when I was working. So I had to be polite but I was curious. “Hey man, interesting t shirt could you explain what it means to me? I don’t think I understand”
(I do I jus wanted to hear what he said)
& sadly he said exactly what I expected. “I HATE FASCISTS!!”
Sigh 😔
@@jamiewalker8772 This was disappointing to you because you were expecting him to have a more complex take? Was it disappointing to you because you believe that antifa is inherently communist and communism is evil? I'm betting a lot of people that don antifa gear only know that it's short for anti-fascist. What would be the LESS disappointing response to your question? Also do you think all forms of socialism are evil?
In 1947, this would probably be in the previews before the movies.
More likely shown in schools...the stuff in cinemas was almost always packaged as "news reels" and was much shorter form. This has all the hallmarks of a film meant to be shown in schools. 🖖✌
@@iKvetch558 But they talk about gambling, murder, war, drinking, racism and so on, would that really be accepted in school? im from Denmark, so i honestly dont know, but it just seem like alot, unless you talk about college, that would make sense
@@awrfcex Primarily, this would be for young folks in high school or junior high school, age 12 and up. It would also be shown at trade schools and colleges. It would be pretty much anywhere the government wanted to try and explain what we were fighting the war for, and where folks would actually be able to or required to sit through the whole thing LOL But yes, you are correct that it would not be for the younger kids....I expect that the War Dept. would have a much less graphic version for the really young ones. 🖖💯✌
You uncultured swine......The Theater
just kidding😜😜
Ha-ha! No way. People paid to be entertained. In 47 you saw a couple of cartoons like Tom and Jerry or Porky Pig, and then a short like the Three Stooges or a look at the ;ighter side of the news. The heavy news shorts at the theater were finished after the war.
This seemed to mostly be progressive for 1947 seeing as it predates the equal rights act by roughly 17 years if I'm correct
My thoughts as well
@@MrTerry This film was meant to promote acceptance of the 1947 de-segregation of the US military.
The way I see it, the people who fought/lived under Nazis came back and started reexamining their homeland after learning what these attitudes could lead to, leading to ideas like eugenics taking a major nosedive in popularity. Those anti-fascists raised anti-fascist children who outnumbered the previous generation's number of anti-fascists. With eugenics on the decline and America examining its previous beliefs, segregation became much easier to strike down than before. Kids who grew up without segregation became even more anti-segregation.
The nazis didn’t really improve their economy, they essentially took out war bonds to finance the build up of the military. The large buildup appeared to save the economy but it was really built on borrowed time, by the time the nazis invaded Poland their financial system faced collapse if they were delayed or stopped for any appreciable portion of time. The conquered land sustained the German economy for a bit, but when the German invasion of Russia stalled in the winter of 1941 the clock of Germany’s borrowed time started again and they were facing financial collapse
About the Nazis and the Catholics: Germany signed a concordat with the Vatican and there was the Reichskirche (Reichschurch), for a catholics who were Nazi-Sympathisers and many Bishops other Clergy went with it.
There are videos of catholic nuns walking to the gas chambers. Hitler hated all religions but allowed Catholics so long as they didn't get overly religious but that did not save them. The Jehovah Witnesses were rounded up along with the Jews and sent to death camps but that isn't as well known. Hitler said that the Nazi religion was the state and nothing else would be tolerated. Hitler said his people would work under the Swatstika flag to the music of Richard Wagner.
And you also had the likes of Monsignor Hugh O'Flaherty a catholic priest based in the Vatican who set up a network of safe houses to hide escaped allied POWs and minorities and help them escape from Italy to neutral countries.
american Irish catholic priest Coughlin and many other were pro nazi and very anti limey
Probably those sympathizers helped many nazis to flee to south america .
is that why the vatican helped so many Nazi criminals escape to Argentina
there is no excuse for fascism. citing “economic growth”, “uniting a majority”, or “german folklore” does not create an excuse. what the “majority” in any nation, any place, should do is love and respect their neighbors regardless of any dividing reasons, and ignore others who say otherwise. it goes beyond reasons of nationalism or “american/german pride”. we are all one people inhabiting one planet together. and while we may all act and speak and look differently, it doesnt change the fact that we are all stronger and better when we work together.
The point of this video isn’t that anyone hears, “Let’s improve the economy through fascism!” but, “It’s that minority group’s fault that the economy is bad!” This causes people to fight against the scapegoat minority and be distracted by this while fascism is installed. It’s like getting attracted to the woman and not realized you’re being setup to be mugged. You were hurt but they now mace you feel good. You’re told you’re special. And then you wake up with a sore head and an empty wallet. Just as people were told that they were special and saving the US while they were actually getting suckered into attempting an insurrection.
The video Don't Be A Sucker should be watched by everyone today because it goes beyond fascism it shows how organizations like the KKK get so big.
It wouldn't work both sides would accuse the other of being the sucker because no way in hell can they themselves be the sucker
This short was intended for G.I.s in the post war period given the mature themes included. The German soapbox speaker is a relatively well known actor, Martin Kosleck, a rabid anti-Nazi who fled Germany in 1931 because his prominence as an actor and political stance made him a target. I met him as a little boy in the early 1960s - long story. The short was probably inspired by essays that were explosively inspiring at that time. In the January, 1946 issue of Pageant magazine Albert Einstein wrote a brief article that was published therein and is remembered as, "The Negro Question". If you have 2 or 3 minutes available it's worth a read.
The American speaker is Dick Lane, not Sorrell Booke. (When this film was made in 1947, Booke was 17 years old and he was a student at Columbia University).
I saw this and similar films in high school as part of the civics curriculum. I imagine the films were also used for college courses. I doubt that civics is even taught in schools anymore.
That ending speech tho. "You see, here in America it is not a question whether we tolerate minorities. America is minorities, and that means you and me. So let's not be suckers. We must not allow the freedom or dignity of any Men to be threatened by any act or word. Let's be selfish about it. Let's forget about we and they. Let's think about us."
My favorite war department film is ‘know your ally: Great Britain’
Or its counterpart: 'your job in Germany'
My favorite parts are when the announcer says something along the lines of "the Germans want us to believe that we have immense differences with the British" and proceeds to show examples but they are hilarious because of the crudeness of them. Like basic cultural differences like pronunciation or how the Brits like rugby and soccer
I also really like "Know your enemy; Japan". While it's got inaccuracies, it's not the worst portrayal of WW2 Japan's ideology and ideological goals.
How to Behave in Britain (starring Burgess Meridith, who was The Penguin in the 60s Batman TV show and Mickey in the Rocky series) is another good one.
@@toasterofdoom9629 yeah. I have no idea why they only focused on the British and Japanese. I’m not sure if there are any other know your ally/enemy films
As a German, I feel that the German drift towards National socialism was described a bit too simple. There was more to it than just good speakers. There were things like the Versailles treaty which left many royalists and nationalists with the feeling that "Germany lost its pride". There was the economic crisis of 1929 after which was lot of Germans lost not only their job and savings but also their optimism and faith in democracy. And at last, there was the long-term nazi-propaganda which has washed the people's minds even before that. What the nazis then did was to provide simple solutions to the masses. A lot of Germans did not originally follow the nazi ideology but went along as the nazi-way seemed to be a good alternative to poverty and depression.
And when the nazis were "elected" in 1933, communist and social politicians were already locked away or repressed to the point they had to comply.
But what's really scary: history seems to repeat. A lot of the circumstances leading up to fascism seem to come up again, not only in Germany.
Absolutely! I think that the American interpretation of the rise of Nazism gets clouded by their a) idea is American Exceptionalism and b) a very superficial or complete ignorance of the history of Germany since the end of the Napoleonic Wars to the end of the Weimar Republic.
They also gloss over the event of WWI and the immediate postwar period to the point that even educated Americans are dangerously uninformed.
I'm an American, and it's my understanding that the 'main' cause of WW2 was the Treaty of Versailles. Yes, there were a lot of other factors too, but if you have to point to one, that would be it. As a general principle, it's when people are poor and desperate is that the extremists start to make sense to them. Germany surrendered after WW1 because their economy was wrecked by the war, so it was extremely stupid to decide to make things worse by forcing them into a 'peace agreement' that drained their economy even further - in fact, I put that in quotes because I don't think that's a peaceful thing to do. That Nazism came out of that is pretty much to be expected - not that it wasn't wrong, but if you look at world history it's pretty predictable that something like that would happen. So to me the real lesson from WW2 isn't 'don't be racist', it's 'don't put people into a desperate situation'. I wish that we Americans, especially given how often our government likes to throw its weight around, learned that lesson better.
@L M In your comment did you also talk about current politics? If so, that may be why - talking about current politics is frowned upon here, because this is a history channel. If that's not the reason, then I don't know.
@L M Oh, well, then I don't know. And you're right that racism was a big part of Hitler's motivation, but there's a difference between what motivated Hitler and what motivated the German people. If the economy had been doing just fine in Germany at the time I doubt that nearly as many Germans would have listened to him. If a guy runs around saying 'Everything sucks and (insert group of people) are to blame!' then people who don't think that everything sucks aren't going to listen.
@L M I didn't say that they didn't have any racism, I said that it wasn't a primary motivator.
05:28 German here, and yep we've had videos exactly like those. Around 1930-ish.. Never since though.
I know this was a product of its time and all, but Mr.Terry is allowed to show it and not getting trouble is really great.
To answer your question, as a Vietnamese, yes we got them a lot on public TV. But it's not as bad as you think they would be. Boring, yes... But sometimes they work. The Covid prevention in Vietnam is a proof.
For the old Communist stuffs, should ask my mom about it
Thank you for your perspective!
This is a timeless message. And it breaks my heart that 80 years have passed and we as a people haven't learned a damn thing. We still have racism and the hatred of anyone who's different. We are back to book burning and having list created so that classic literature is now seen as indoctrination all under the guise of "protecting the children", which is a load of crap. Women are loosing control over their own bodies while gays are being forced back into the closet. We have a groups of people being suckered life, right an sideways, while a group of people are trying to force their religion down our throats so that give up on our chosen faith. And to top it all off, we also have one brass jackass whose lust for power is doing nothing but having an ill affect on us all. We are the epitome of the sentence: "Those who don't remember their past are doomed to repeat it." And we truly are.
I understand how you can have that perspective but can you understand how one cannhave perspective that the left is trying to push gender ideology on kids to the point where it could cause them life long physical harm? CRT is horribly destructive as well. There are going to be any number of things that people don't want there kids to be taught on schools. Do you want teachers to be taught that white kids a superior to everyone else? Of course not, and I suspect that you wouldn't want those kinds of books in school libraries, any more than some might not want books that illustrate graphic depictions of sex acts where a 10 yr old could access them. The public education should not be in the business in promoting ideologies be they political, religious, or any other kind.
I find many of your claims to be unstansiated as I don't see evidence of this in my day to day life. You might want to try to engage with those you are told to oppose and see that they are not the demons you have been led to belive. Be carefull who you belive as many are trying to use you to gain power or your money.
Just remember: nobody has a monopoly on the truth when is comes to ideology. That's not to say that you should throw the baby out with the bathwater, as a broken clock is right twice a day.
The fact the you and I have very different perspectives on the subjects you touch on illustrates what this film trys to warn us about.
Don't belive the hype.
I'm still waiting for when people watch this and go "hey...our major parties are doing this same kind of garbage"...
I think the sane people aren't doing that because they don't want to scare away the farthest wings. They need to see this and really think about what politicians are saying and doing.
Good timely message.
1947 was the year Jackie Robinson broke the color line in MLB.
The kids playing baseball, Black, White and Asian, was a little idealistic but I am sure it was starting to happen.
America's national mythology is a beautiful thing.
Our reality has always fallen short though, that is why I love the phrase "in order to form a more perfect union."
America is hard work.
This is a current history lesson. All of this is happening today. We need to learn and not repeat.
These were popular for military recruits, government workers, and newsreels before a movie intended for adults. In schools it was more the "Duck and Cover" films, general newsreels, and such.
Was this an accurate portrayal of society in the late 1940's?
I think that in the United States, where we are a nation built on the idea that anybody can believe anything, this is not good. It tells people what to think or say, and even if it is offensive or inflammatory, the 1st amendment protects i your thoughts and speech. The US government should never try and tell you to think something.
Dang it you changed the question so my answer doesn’t make sense anymore lol.
@@spencermark115 I think the great Pete Seeger laid it out best in his song "What did you learn in School Today?"
@@spencermark115 They are always trying to get you to think something. You just don’t notice it. I’d rather them be open about it than hide it.
I mean segregation was still around for like 15 years after this film yet he says a lot about how not to judge a man by his skin, but by his character. Also the Native American soldiers who fought in WWII were treated badly when they returned. I feel like right after such a brutal war most put their differences aside for a short while. Then, soon after, I think people became more divided
@L M doubting everything IS critical thinking, you are actively telling them to stop doing that. Nobody ever said that the world functions like the us, although it does in many ways, economic facts, human nature facts, political system facts, etc all remain consistent around the world, there aren't different breeds of human, all humans will fall into more or less the same tendencies, the best example is the pareto distribution principle which is observed in EVERY SINGLE case where human creativity or choice is involved ever, during any time period, in any place, its a human universal. Even then, there are some things the us does right, there are some things the us does wrong, there are a lot of things the world does wrong, such as china and their latest genocide, but there are some things that countries get right, like some of the nordic or Scandinavian countries that don't have minimum wage laws.
20:00 i wouldnt say anti-religious. more like the fact that the church as an institution had an easy way to "guide the minds" if you will. And they did so not in accordance with how the Nazi party wanted your mind to be guided.
Religion with its core nature might have been in conflict with the führer principle aswell, but i think the aspect they were going for here isless the religion itself, just the church being a potential opposition, with people attending mess every week, taking part in church activities etc so they could influence people to THEIR wishes and against the nazi's ideas
Yeah and how the some of the Catholic Church priests openly opposed the Eugenics programs.
Good points
@@MrTerry Plus the tithes being given to the church was funding that wasn't going to the war effort. The Nazis made a broad coalition of Protestant churches that agreed with them, effectively making that confederation the "preferred" religion; although many in the Nazi Party, most notably Heinrich Himmler, wanted to replace Christianity with something else because they considered it a Jewish invention. We aren't sure exactly what Hitler supported, since Goebbels claimed that privately Hitler hated Christianity and believed its focus on kindness and universality, but obviously in public Hitler supported Christianity. We are sure he didn't like Catholics though. He grew up catholic in Austria, I believe, with his abusive father. But anyway, Himmler wanted to replace Christianity with a new religion to unite the German people spiritually; Norse paganism was one of the topics discussed, though State Shintoism (Japan's religion, at the time, differentiated from normal Shintoism with the fact it placed additional reverence behind the Emperor and emphasized loyalty to the state over all) was something also discussed.
ALSO: the nazis were in the guy's classroom because three of his students became Nazis. Remember? How the guy telling the story said the kids that became Nazis went to his University?
The impression I got was more that the Nazis oppressed anyone who dared speak out against them.
Which is true.
You ever thought about doing some of the Checkmate Lincolnites videos? Not sure how much you could add but they are always enjoyable to be reviewed.
8:09 I am surprised you didn't seem to notice the arm movement. That was likely intentional.
I feel that this film is both insanely hypocritical but also insanely ahead of its time being from pre-1963 America.
@L M Absolutely I mean in the US. This film is from the US, so I did write this comment exclusively from that perspective, but rights for all came at different points and of course, not everybody today still has rights in places around the world.
@L M ha no worries.
@L M we also stopped calling ethincities race because it was kind of a Hittler thing. Don't worry the US Will catch on eventually. (Not)
@L M Same here in Romania we only use *race* for animals.
@@nicklasabrahamsson8836 Problem is, you can't say the black ethnicity because they aren't the same ethnicity. Some are from West Africa, some are from the Kongo, some are from South Africa, some are from East Africa and Uganda. Race is considered a general divider in the United States; Black, White, Native American, Asian, and South Asian
Did you know it's the 75th anniversary of Churchill's, Iron Curtin speech
Thank you for reacting to this video Mr Terry...
This film is a wonderfully fascinating relic of a very very particular era in US history. The very brief period of time from the end of WW2 to 1947 or 1948 is so little studied...this ever so brief period of time when Americans thought they could go back to "normal" after the Depression and conflagration of global war. This film is perfect example of that time...a year later and it would have been creepily focused on anti Communism, but right at that moment it was interested only in trying to preach a message of unity. Very forward looking, even if bordering on propagandistically so...it is an idealized version of the USA that we obviously had a long way to go to even get close to reaching. It uses the war so fresh in people's minds to explain how things should be, and how the US system is intended to function. It is strange to modern ears and eyes only because these types of films are no longer shown to us on a regular basis in schools and other civic settings. If you look for them, you can see that the Department of Defense still does make promotional films to express their institutional views of their purpose and values, we just do not see them nowadays unless we go looking for them. 🖖✌
Thanks for contributing!
I've seen old ed-films here in Sweden from when paid vacation became a thing way back. The government was terrified people wouldn't know what to do with it so they made ed-films to explain it.
I feel like the impression of this video heavily depends on where you are from and what local consequences WW2 had on your region, but the method of showing how separation and biases are artificially created is still relevant to this very day. It presents a complicated topic in an incomplete yet understandable manner in just 17 minutes, which was probably the goal if I had to guess. It's an interesting pick, since a lot of modern videos are more about topics with easily presentable data, like military history videos.
The historic background of segregation and treatment of minorities during this time certainly leaves a bitter aftertaste, but some social arguments are still very much worthy to strife after.
I really like the point about how similar personality types can be found all over the planet and how the individual is usually molded by their environment and the general flow of truth.
Good points!
“The historic background of segregation and treatment of minorities during this time leaves a bitter aftertaste, but some social arguments are still very much worthy to [strive] after.” Would you mind explaining what you mean here? I don’t want to misunderstand.
@@karadecker8764what I may examine is during that time of the film's making pretty much anyone who's minority (etc. Black, Hispanic, and Asian.) we're in fact segregated (Segregated America, Apartheid South Africa.) Thus making the message hypocritical in history's hindsight.
Every quack or wacko, that wants power has to divide.
This film is so needed today especially after the Jan 6 Insurrection
@Mike The Chicago Critic : There was no "ins urrect ion".
@Historia.... yes thre was an insurrection. Just because a mouth breathing womb-waste with an invalid opinion, lost in denial states there wasn't; there still was one on 6th
@@_Historia.Magistra.Vitae.
tell that to the
1000 TRUMPANAZIS
that have been arrested for it
@@_Historia.Magistra.Vitae. I guess you would know better, if you are there right?
It is fascinating how people can completely miss the truth, and even when shown tactics by the Nazi’s (the German Socialist Workers Party), they will embrace the Nazi/ Marxist attitudes.
Mike Chicago, there was no insurrection on Jan 6th! You are being played & manipulated by the globalists NeoMarxists!
I am curious what you think of the countless other protests w/in Capitol bldgs, the use of terrorism to prosecute the innocent, the use of FBI & IRS to target Christians, Journalists, etc?
Or the several Billion dollars of damage done during the ‘summer of love’.. to name but a few.?.
Open your eyes. Look at the fruits they produce, and not just their rhetoric. Look at equal application of law vs hypocrisy, look at who is villinized by those in power vs the protected group.
They claim race, but if a Black American dares to speak openly about any view deemed “right wing” (most of which weren’t deemed as such just a few decades ago, btw), how they are immediately villinized.
Question!
Ask if Nazi’s (a Socialist party that seeks a more powerful central govmt) is really a conservative view… or who supported the Eugenics movement that allowed the dehumanizing of Jews (again, not the conservatives or religious).
Exactly we are all Americans regardless of ethnicity, religion and beliefs.
Your name is a contradiction. Communism is the most anti-fascist ideology
@@simoneidson21
Yes, but he isn't supporting Fachism my dude. Also just because you don't support Faschism doesn't mean you have to support Communism. I myself don't support Communism or Faschism I think both don't work and are too fantastical to be true.
@Simon Eidson
Yeah, ask the Jews how well the communist revolutions ended up for us. We didn't see much of a difference.
Different symbols, same death camps.
@einzelganger1400 yes , if somone is not with us is against us what one of fascists preaching.
@@simoneidson21 It's not a contradiction. They're an anti-fascist American, and they have a CPUSA logo as their profile picture. This checks out, because historically, it was communists and the Left who put up considerable resistance to fascists and Nazis prior to the rise of Hitler and Mussolini, and it was the Red Army that did most (most, not all) of the fighting against Nazi Germany in WW2.
The commenters seem to grasp the message of the film better than you. The message is relevant to current social events in the USA.
Though it's a bit outdated, the message still rings true. Someone could remake this for our time, keep the message the same, just change some of the lingo used and styles worn.
If there was ever a time to present this film nationwide, it's now. The lessons are timeless.
waiting till he realizes that even with all the self proclaimed ISM'S that this is vary valid to what were facing today with the right.
Makes me think of murica today...
5:58 The Twitter and Facebook of the 1940s, A madman on a soapbox. The loadest and least informed voices got the most attention.
The good thing about social media is that everyone has a voice
The bad thing about social media is that *everyone* has a voice
@@squilldx5055 And that is how it should be. Sadly, social media censors voices they disapprove of at behest of the government or activists, and as a result, the loud voices are becoming even louder.
@@AO968 I disagree
@@Kara-de5cz With what?
@@AO968 " social media censors voices they disapprove"
It's a progressive message, but at this time in United States history, it was mostly empty words. Segregation was still rampant, and over the next decades would escalate into violence, and the perpetrators of that violence didn't care whether the person they were beating the hell out of was an honored veteran or a school girl. There was a huge stink over JFK becoming president, because he was a Catholic. He cheated on his wife and abused drugs too, but the thing people cared about then was his religion. It wasn't just happening in the United States either. The Brits drove Alan Turing to suicide because he was gay. It didn't matter he helped crack the Enigma and invent modern computing after they found out he was a homosexual, so I did find it to be pretty cringe. The cringe comes from hypocrisy though, not the message.
Agreed. It's a shame they couldn't live up to the rhetoric of this film during time it was made.
I’d imagine this film was shown to kids in elementary or middle school back in 1947, like 8-12 range. My grandfather was born in 1939, so I can ask him if he ever saw it in school.
>calls himself historian
>can't see how more relevant this video is now.
"Dont be a sucker" is probably my most favorit video on RUclips and a guidebook for the political opinions i have and decisions I make.
The 3 pillars of my political view are undoubtably:
"Dont be a sucker"- by the U.S. war department.
"Rules for Rulers" - by CGP grey
"Nationalism" - by Brain4Breakfast.
I highly recommend to watch all these to anyone. If you do and you listen carefull and take your time to understand them you will no doubt become a better person.
"Don't be a Sucker" has been a staple on my anti-fascism playlist recommendations -- but now I'm going to check out the other two. Thanks!
The fact that you enjoy watching propaganda is proof you're fully brainwashed
LMAO... I've been recommended those same videos from the best archives since last week.
We must have a similar RUclips history!
The archive where you got this from has a flawed version of this film, as seen by the cuts in audio, if you want the best quality stuff, look at the US National Archives RUclips channel
If I heard right, a lot of these videos were shown in movie theaters before the actual films. This was the age before tv, after all
And it wasn’t just the nazis. All forms of authoritarianism hate religion. They don’t want you having a higher power.
I'm not religious but do see how people will follow "isms" instead of a positive faith. Communism, fascism, rabid nationalism, all have leaders who get power by whipping up their followers with hate and fear. It really doesn't matter what else they claim as their "pure" motives.
Counterpoint, there is *one* form of authoritarianism that doesn't hate religion. That would be theocracy (e.g. the Iranian System) and other religiously-based totalitarian ideologies like clerical fascism, Islamic fundamentalism, Hindutva, Kahanism, Falangism, Francoism, or the ideologies of the Nazi Positive Christians, the Russian Black Hundreds, and the Romanian Iron Guard.
@@zvezda4701 funny that you think those are actually lead by the religion, and that the religion isn't being used as a tool to maintain power
@@rodneythundercock I don't think they are led by the religion, I just mean that those ideologies don't necessarily hate religion. If they did they would not even be trying to use it as a tool, if they hated religion they would not touch it with a ten-foot pole.
@@zvezda4701 except that many of the people in charge of theocracies don't even follow the religion. Some going so far as to outright blaspheme or mock the religion in private.
As a former far-rigther this hits differently.
Fr I'm a far left person and all I see is the US
Y'all should know there is a place between far right and far left where most sane people reside.
@@sk8n854 holy fucking shit you're subscribed to socialists and conservatives
We're subscribe to the same people
@@sk8n854 Except certain goods and services simply don't belong on a free market... So am I a left extremist for really wanting SOME areas of the system be free from capitalism?
Nobody wants EVERYTHING done by the state.
Usually, the left are more progressive than the right wingers. Conservatism means stalling... Nothing moves forward if you vote right wing parties, no matter the country you live in.
@@Leon_der_Luftige did you even read my last post? And yeah conservatives stop progress in a lot of areas that need it but they also sometimes stop bad changes that would end up being bad for everyone. Like I said, I lean left but I still recognize sometimes conservatism can be correct and progressivism can be wrong.
Another great night to learn about history
I got an ad for Ben Shapiro's Daily Wire anti-trans bullshit before this video. Amazing dissonance, an ad for the modern incarnation of Nazism.
Here is the reality of all these modern right wing conspircy theories
they are the build up for genocide Justifcation
Qanon
white Replacement
and the Whole LGBTQ Groomer Conspiracy
will all be used to justify a mass killing of these groups in 10 to 20 years
i mean the nazis justifyed their genocide with conspiacies like
The stab in the back myth
Hitler's prophecy
and that communism , the soviet union and most world goverments where secretly run by jews
if you pose a group to have an evil secret motive then your ultimately calling for genocide and Violance
and several shootings in real life have allready been inspired by these Conspiracies
Like the 2019 El Paso shooting or the Christchurch mosque shootings
it should be Illegal to make this your poltical platform
5:41 The Aussie ones are pretty dope. Mostly 'don't put your hands in dark places' and 'we've got a feck ton of Italians and Poms coming, so play nice.' vids.
I have a question the helmet you have, did you wear it when you are at war before you became a teacher
The closest I’ve been to war is playing Call of Duty
@@MrTerry That counts as well.
I'd figure a history teacher would know one of the most basic facts about US history: TVs weren't ubiquitous until the 70s.
So where *would* people go to watch films....such a mystery.....
15:40 Ironically, this footage was probably pulled from "Triumph of the will" an infamous Nazi propaganda film.
Wow I’m surprised you hadn’t done this yet
Germany as a whole is NOT the heart of protestantic reformation, that would be czech/bohemia (which was a part of the Holy Roman Empire and later of the Habsburg Kingdom, which itself was of course deeply catholic like most parts of southern germany). Jan Hus (1372-1415) was the mentor of Martin Luther, being a hundred years ahead of his work. Bohemia and Saxony share a border.
Germany itself was and is deeply divided between protestants and catholics, which of course resultet in the 30 years war of 1618-48. The Nazi party never had a problem with catholic people, they just feared the institution of the Vatican and the influence of the pope.
Mussolini and Franco both integrated catholicism into their propaganda. In that regard, italy had of course a geographical advantage with the Vatican City State in the middle of its territory.
If you chose to read up on it, Hitler set up his own church which is quite an interesting topic.
I was here early Mr. Terry. Do I get extra credit?
Ummm you got something on your nose :-p
You should watch “know your ally: Great Britain”
My mothers grandfather was a German immigrant farming in Illinois. He did not like that Germany was loosing the war. He never learned English so his wife had to read him the paper. She would skip over certain parts. If he needed a new pair of shoes his sons would have to sneak him into town to Mr. Greenburg's store.
My mother grew up really only knowing the farm, which she loved. She is still that poor farm girl to this day. She has always been hard working and active in the community, does that make her progressive? All she knew about WWII was planes would fly over; so low the pilots would wave. She thought they might hit the barn. My grandfather did not have to go to war because of the farm, but he did have to work in a munitions factory which was very dangerous.
This is all she remembers, but Rachel Maddow gave a wonderful keynote speech at the Truman Center that helped me understand things about American history, and my own family history, I never could have guessed.
Regarding the Nazi's; my best friend in the Army, his father was a Brown Shirt who basically gave Hitler the finder and moved to Canada.
Every color? I just watched a film with Morgan Freeman about the 761st Tank Battalion.
This video I have shared a few times. Having been in the Army I am aware of how much they like training and training films.
Those educator's they sure like to lecture. :) Thank you Mr. Terry. Sad to say, I might have forgotten some of my history, but I will never forget my High School history teacher.
In my own opinion I thinks this is not outdated we can learn a lot from this and apply it today in different perspective pardon my English
Not quite sure if somebody mentioned it already, but there is a fairly better version of the video available on yt.
Without the jumpcuts and so on.
Quite interesting actually because it is much more followable. :)
I see this flim as a training film for government employees and miltary personnel
Most videos like this where played in movie theaters and in schools
i think stankface poker face was just the style in 1947 lol (at 29:00)
Bro, I just saw this, how did he know?
To answer your question of where it would have been shown, well, the opening depictions of gambling and adultery would be seen as adult subjects for young elementary school students. This video would likely be made standard American civics for High School level students, so this video would've been shown in every American high school class.
Rick Steves on PBS has an educational program on Fascism in Europe for a new generation.
YES! I would appreciate reviewing more old films reels like this. So much has changed and it's good for today's youngsters to see how it's changed.
I'm guessing, one would see this film in the theatre before a movie. Like one would see News Reels before a movie.
Interesting all the US president who help the African American civil rights movement were either leaders during WW2 like Harry S Truman or former US soldier who fought in WW2.
Considering that some officials of the Catholic Church helped Nazi war criminals to escape to South America I don’t know if the Catholic Church faced much persecution other than that he reviewing a great video.
At the movie theater! That's where you'd see it!
Ernie Borgnine Impersonator (no, that's not really him) at 5:59! :-D
I LOVED it. I've seen it several times in its unedited entirety and it's an absolutely epic and BRILLIANT masterpiece of art no less relevant TODAY than it was then. Should be required viewing for schoolchildren all over the world.
wow theres alot of discourse here i wanna join! *vague and non comital/ extremely ill-informed political statement*
This is amazing
I got amused when the Nazi speaker mentioned "freemasonry" and the free mason guy looked down and started to uncomfortably twist his mason ring around on his finger. lol
I think they still do films like these, but they're just way more progressive with the times so you don't notice as much... There's a series of films which they basically CONSTANTLY played in high school here in Canada and I think the government funded it or something... It's called "Canada: A People's History" and honestly I'd highly recommend it to anyone interested in Canadian history... Really I think it'd be neat to see some reacting to "Canada: A People's History" on this channel...They get actors to dress up in costumes and act as people like I think Samuel de Champlain, Louis Riel, John A. MacDonald, etc... Like, they'll have a quote from John A. MacDonald about the natives or something and then they'll have someone dress up as him and say it with dramatic lighting and a dramatic voice... Teachers seem to absolutely LOVE showing people clips from it when teaching Canada's history... I think you can find some if not all the episodes on RUclips for free...
And also the things in this video are happening right now
It's a professor lecturing a class
Since television was just starting to be a thing, these types of films were probably shown in movie theaters between the feature films.
To be fair, Hitler did have steely, greyish, violet blue eyes but yeah, he wasn`t tall, muscular, blond or clean-shaven like his ideal.
Why would everyone describe this film as cringey in any way?
At what point did we stop wearing hats?
(Sept 2023)
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Heard a lot of this stuff in the US the last couple of years. Unfortunately not just from some few crazy guys behind closed doors
Do why we fight. It is probably the best made 40s doccumentary series (it is war prophaganda but still)
Sounds like 2016 and 2020. Thank goodness the trash didn't winner this time
The only high ranking nazi, that somehow looked like their idea was Reinhard Heydrich btw (Big part in the "final solution"; killed by czech resistancefighters somewhat 1942 in "Operation Anthropoid")
2:20 A 1947 educational film produced two years after World War II about not falling for Nazi ideology and learning what to watch out for ? High schoolers, young adults and collage students. Easy answer
Brilliant! Every student on earth should see it.
I remember watching this video in 8th grade to see how paranoid the US was and the don’t be a commie too lol
I'm in school now my teachers they have never shown me propaganda against fascism or communism it might be because I'm in a different state
If only more people watched this documentary in the 50s instead of Anti-Communist documentaries.
Homie got an rbi and Mr Terry still hating lol. But yea that was a shit swing and got lucky lmao
Hey, if it gets the job done...
Indo Europeans - Theoretically originated around the Caucasus mountains and north of the *Black sea?* (North of Turkey) So somewhere around Ukraine and southwest Russia is where the Indo-europeans began.
Yea man that's what the Aryan Theory says
Free unless your a south/Central American country or a middle Eastern nation(that is from us hegemony)
TV? Movie theaters.
What about freedom from conscription?
The message in this propaganda is certainly progressive at the time, but I don’t believe the American society in 1940s is as ‘free’ to all people regardless of colours and religion etc as one of the main characters claims. Notice how most characters - including the two main characters who carried the discussions and the entire video - are white European descendants.
I’m not saying that there is no ethnic minority representation (I’m fully aware that there is a black character, representing the black population, being discriminated by the extreme-right speaker), but these two white male voices do not speak for other minorities either. How do they know if other ethnic races, not only black but also native Indian Americans and Asians, were living in freedom? There are a lot of sources and testimonies to support that white population seldom had respectful and civil interactions with the ‘others’ even when they are American citizens. You can say that the director selected these two white men to make the message more convincing, but this approach alone is already implying racial inequality in most of mid-20C American society.
It has a good message, for sure, but these smaller details also implies issues in American society that is almost contradictory to what they’re saying. It’s still a great source though, I certainly enjoy this one more than the anti- totalitarian cartoon one lol. Thanks for sharing your insights Mr Terry, great reactions as always.
I'm surprised you did this you should check out the American Nazis when Hitler's raising