Story 1: AITA For showing my daughter the text her fiancé sent me? Story 2: 4:17 AITA for “rudely” telling my husband I decide who is in the delivery room? Story 3: 9:28 AITA for finally telling my sister I asked to move in with my dad to get away from her? Story 4: 13:25 AITA for not giving my daughter the basement suite after I renovated it only because she refused to give up her room upstairs?
First story. There's something everyone else seemed to have missed. He was trying to alienate her from her family. That's usually a red flag for abuse, pulling her from friends and family so she will have no-one to turn to.
NTA. Classic case of rich kid using his social position and money to be a manipulator and controller. That's why the daughter dumped his butt. She probably thought if he's already trying to pull the "you'll never see your grandchildren" card with her dad before there's a marriage what's this man going to do after the ceremony not just to her dad but to her or any kids they have? OP did what every good parent should do and exposed his daughter to the truth of who this man is.
@@MrJpaynebb do you think women are now-a-days innocent to submit to a man's order. Why man think they have any control over us...😎😎😎good for him to.... because if she would have known after marriage then she not only have divorced him but also would have taken his 50% property....😂😂😂 For emotional abuse by showing those proofs to court. He probably fears her that's the reason he cannot directly tell her to cut contact with her family.... coward man🎉🎉🎉he knows that his ass will get kicked by her if she hears anything like that...
I'm sure the daughter had already been having concerns about her fiancé before the OP showed her his messages. This was probably the last straw for her.
Bingo. He just spoke as if he could keep OP away from any future grandchildren? Ignoring the nuclear option threat... exactly how did Mike think he could do that? The only way he could do that if he could just tell his wife to not let her own father see her son. That isn't a red flag, its an insane assumption that you can control your wife to do something 99% of the spouses would never agree to.
That guy was going to end up being super controlling. He was already trying to isolate her from her family and was probably gonna use all that money to keep her under his thumb
My Dad became a bigger jerk the more money he got. He was EXTREMELY entitled! He passed already and when my mother passes I’m paying the taxes and 95% is going to charity. I don’t want to be turned.
People say money can't buy happiness. Happiness is a complex thing that has many parts. On thing which is simple is that money can't buy manners and human decency.
OP’s sisters in Story 1 are only mad that the wedding is off because they wanted the “perks” of having a niece who was married to a rich husband. They were probably fantasizing about the expensive Christmas gifts, summer vacation abroad, yachts and beach houses, etc. It doesn’t matter if Mike’s family had those things, the sisters had the expectation of experiencing those things. They don’t give a damn about Mike’s character, they’re just greedy.
1st story : Umm....... I think the relatives are bitter that they couldn't attend the high class wedding anymore rather than being concern about the bride and groom. Like......how can they assume that the father was in the wrong, when the groom wanted to cut her brother off from the wedding without her knowing ?
First Story NTA imagine how "fiancee" would treat the kids potentially and the examples he would set. You saved your own daughter from a terrible marriage (the Guy needs a reality check)
Story 2: make sure you let the staff know she is not allowed near you. Let them know your spouse may try to get them to let his mother in. Give them a photo of her. Make sure on the day that you tell them your decision hasn't changed and if she tries to enter, you want her arrested.
They're only going to try to have her arrested if she pitches a fit for about 20 minutes/tries to take a swing at someone. Then they'll load her up with about 5 mg of Haldol and throw her on a stretcher. My exMIL tried this sh*t.
@@GloriousDutchPancakes did you not listen to most of the story because the husband was yelling loud enough that when he left the neighbor came over to check on op because she was about to call 911
@@GloriousDutchPancakes his first thought was of his mother and not the wife/mother of his child. He doesn’t have his priorities in order. It’s not his naked body that’s being on display.
I can’t believe the MIL and husband feels she’s entitled to be there for the birth especially with their relationship with how poorly she treated op over the years. She only got “better” with op when they got pregnant, guess because of this and knows she has to treat op better if she wants to come over and such to see the baby. Idk why the husband thought that of all people to be the second person there for the delivery that it would be his mother and not op’s mom or sisters. Giving birth is a stressful, scary, painful and Intimate thing to go through. She needs love, help and support, not her MIL who treats her poorly, ridicules and stresses her out.
story #3- the fact that she went back to therapy after this "revelation" , rather than denying, having a tantrum or being bitter, may be a good sign and show there is hope for her.
But one thing I'm confused about, the way OP said it, did they mean that if she would have agreed to leave her room, she would have not gotten any renovation, and the renovation only happened, because she refused to leave, is that correct way to read? 14:52 ish
Story 1 OP had nothing to do with the daughter calling off the wedding. She made that decision for herself when she came to her senses and realised what a nasty snob her fiance is.
The fact that family members in the first story volunteered to watch Adam while his dad went to the wedding like he was some kind of child that needs babysitting when he’s seventeen and disabled, is also pretty gross if he can take care of himself on his own. It seems trashfire fiancé isn’t the only one who might be ableist in this situation
Why do people think that just because a woman is giving birth, that her body isn't hers anymore and everyone can just gawk at it? What if OP ends up needing a c-section? Is MIL going to go around the curtain and watch the doctor moving her internal organs around?
Tell me about. I recall when I was pregnant I got so much shit for not wanting anyone to be present during my labor. These were just my feelings and not actually the birth plan. However I was berated for "being selfish", endangering my child, blah, blah, blah. 👎🏾
@@Gumbier_Than The only ones who absolutely had to present during a childbirth is the medical team. Everyone else is the mother´s priviledge to choose, yes including the father.
Second story, Run. do not walk you married a mama's boy. This is not the first or last times he will chime in on his mother's side over rather than your side.
Story 1: Mike is lucky he didn't get punched in the face, what a POS. Story 3: That was the most kind way I've seen someone tell the truth, to someone who made their life hell. I grew up without a dad, that is no excuse to destroy someone's property, throw tantrums and act like a POS. The sister is lying when she says she doesn't remember, she 100% remembers but is too embarrassed to apologize and admit that she was the problem. The OP doesn't even hate her for the fact, all she did was remind her that she's the reason she left in the most gentle way possible. Story 4: The daughter is 100% being manipulated by the mother to act and throw tantrums. Father asked her if she could switch rooms, she said no and he respected her wishes. Then father builds up downstairs to solve the room issue, now daughter is throwing a tantrum that she wants the nicer/bigger room. Her behavior is 100% unacceptable and OP should take the ex to court for parental alienation.
Last story: Daughter got what she wanted, to keep her room!! Now all of a sudden this is a problem. The brothers needed a larger space and the baby got the smaller room. It sounds like everything worked out the way it should have.
Its possible that mom helped her rewrite what she did and after awhile of mom telling her she didn't destroy OP'S stuff it didn't happen and the big bad courts forced her to live with her father. You get told this many times over tthe years you start to believe it.
@@Mew_Mokuba_Akari My grandma told my dad and his siblings that their dad never payed child support even though he had receipts proving he did, only my middle aunt even looked at his evidence. Also said he was physically abusive which was another lie. In fact, my grandma put them up to trashing my grandpa's place after which he kind of just gave up trying to see them. They didn't see their dad for nearly 30 years until my mom forced them. I met my grandpa for the first time at his sister's funeral
Story 4: Dude asked his teenage daughter to give up her room for what in her eyes amounts to a random pile of feces. No is a reasonable answer to that. He then effectively punished and shamed her in front of her step family (the aforementioned pile of crap) for not acceding to the request. In her eyes her father is prioritizing his new families needs over her's and there is no way that ever turns out good. To a lot of children of divorce step siblings aren't family, they're just strangers who constantly remind you that your parent is fully capable of doing the things he failed to do to keep your family together. From the daughters perspective that story goes: Dad- Can you give up your sanctum to some random invaders you hate? Girl- No. Dad- You are a bad daughter and should be willing to sacrifice for this family I'm forcing on you. Girl- ........ Dad- I'm going to make even better stuff for my new better family. Girl- ....... Dad- U mad? Girl- Okay, have fun with your new family then.
Story 2 Honestly if I was the mom, i would ask the doctor if he could explain why keep the mom stressfree in fully detail to the dad just to hammer WHY mom's need to stressfree
Many people find the truth (or the right thing for that manner) inconvenient. The daughter was going to marry this rich guy making her and her family set for life. When truthfully he was an ableist bigot who had a huge chip on his shoulder about her beloved yet disabled Stepbrother.
Mike was the one making threats...why is it OP's fault that her daughter decided she didn't wanna deal with a prick like him. She deserves to know the kind of man she was involved.
Not your fault, but you have limited power, and her mother can make decisions unilaterally. Your daughter grabbed the biggest stick available and started swinging. She wants you to hold her number one priority, not realizing that you have limited power and/or options. Given that you have less autonomy than your ex,she may opt for her. So very sorry.
In the 1st story, if hes not treating the family well and you guys are respectful and welcoming to him, then hes not treating your daughter well either.
This!!! He was probably treating her like shit and him threatening her dad with not seeing his grandkids/trying to uninvite her brother was the final straw
@@darrynllee If you are disrespectful of your partner's family though can you really call that treating your partner well? Unless the family are a bunch of terrible people that deserve the disrespect and the partner is on board with it with it. I wouldn't feel cared for or respected by my partner if they treated my family like that even if I don't always get along with them. PS people in unhealthy relationships don't always know when they are not being treated well....
The daughter wanted her beloved stepbrother at HER wedding. AH, the fiance wanted to dictate otherwise. The daughter's Aunts should be backing her rather than butthead! Even after being told by his betrothed that she wanted her brother there and appeared to back off, he is still telling Dad that he should be leaving the brother at home. Why wouldn't Dad tell her what is going on, not because he hates the guy but because he loves his daughter?
I had to go back to check and it seems the sisters were getting their hopes up for nothing, if Mike doesn't like Op and Adam for being a lower class, what makes the sisters think they're gonna be treated any better? Them being the daughters aunts isn't gonna change anything, so it's unlikely they'll be able reap any of the benefits of having a rich nephew in law and Mike would probably shut them down if they tried. If he thinks less of Op and Adam, he thinks less of all of them.
"High class" doesn't treat other people like crap just because they are in a lower economic bracket, or are disabled. Class has nothing to do with money.
Delivery Room: NTA. Were I OP, I would make it a condition that, if I were to even consider (consider, mind, not promise) the mother in law being there and viewing 'my' intimate parts, she would have a number of pornographic shots of her intimate parts made, and give OP full rights to post them online as she wishes. All photos must have face visible. If she's not willing to let random people see her intimately, then she shouldn't expect to see OP that way, either. Be prepared to post that solution publicly if it escalates :)
Story 2. OP tell your husband that your Father, his Father in law will be with him when he goes for his next Prostrate examination! See how he reacts to that, this is so stupid why are so many MIL's demanding to be at the birth it is weird. Personally I would rather not be present and be like a Fifties Father in the waiting room handing out cigars when told by the doctor it's a Boy/Girl and Mother and Baby are doing fine!
What a great idea re the Prostate exam! My niece's mother-in-law was the same when the first grandchild was due. I was shocked that any MIL would assume it was her 'right' to see her grandchild being born. My niece [who is estranged from her mother] phoned me in a bit of a panic and I reassured her it was an outrageous request. She said to me she felt if she needed to have any female relative or friend at the birth it would only be in an emergency [e.g if her husband could not make it for the birth], and in that case it would be me. I made it quite clear if that happened, I would be remaining *firmly* at the top end, wiping her brow etc. :-)
Story 1: NTA just cause someone comes from money doesn't mean that they'll be a good spouse/parent. He may have treated OP's daughter with kindness and love, but to her stepbrother, whom she clearly loves with her whole heart, he was uncaring and demeaning. Treating OP and his stepson-her main family members-as if they were beneath him just shows how much more important his social status is rather than being a good person.
Mike Defiantly would've shown his true colors after the honey-moon phase. She most likely would have been stuck in a controlling and abusive relationship.
Story Four: Am I showing my age by immediately thinking about 'The Brady Bunch' episode where the attic is turned into a bedroom and Greg and Marcia fight over it? I personally would have given it to Jan to mute her whining. I AM NOT OLD! (You're only young once but you can be immature forever!)
2nd: U married a mama's boy!! Run away, run away from the pain yeah, yeah yeah yeah Run away run away from the pain yeah yeah!! Yeah yeah yeah yeah yeah!! Run away, run away, run, run away!! - Aerosmith 4th: The Brady Bunch BS DOES NOT WORK!!! YTA, sorry 2 say!!
Yes even when op said they only have a good relationship now that she's pregnant. Giving birth is the most vulnerable moment of someone's life and if they doesn't get along with her mother in law should be forced to have someone she doesn't like there.
@@sebastianpizxa1553 If her husband is that oblivious to his wife's needs now, he will only be worse during labor. An oblivious partner in the delivery room is literally dead weight. Delivery would be easier for the wife if her immature mommy's boy husband was just in the waiting room with his mother in that case.
The sisters said that OP wanted his daughter to be not happy? His daughter said that she WANTED Adam at the wedding. So I don’t see the logic in their statement. I want to see what the daughter says to her aunts after that load of bullshit.
That first story. Dear god. I wonder how he would have acted if he and the daughter had a disabled child. I bet he would smother the baby in its crib if that’s how he acts about a person in a wheelchair. He also sounds like the kind of person to favor boys over girls and to scream at the mother if she pops out a girl. OP did the right thing alerting his daughter to exactly what kind of *MONSTER* she was engaged to.
Last story. The problem is definitely the Ex-wife who is taking out her frustrations towards OP through the daughter. The daughter was asked a fairly reasonable request as she is not there all the time but refused. The basement was renovated and the eldest boy got it and now she is upset and playing the victim whilst again not being there full time. The Ex taking this to court is vindictive and speaks of other underlaying issues. When the daughter is called to give evidence remember she must be truthful so any lies she speaks have your lawyer challenge in court both her and the mother could be in trouble if they lie to the court and it is proven.
The first comment to this story also had a point; was this her room prior to his remarriage? If so, I can see the anger. He also went from wanting the 2 step-sons rooming together to giving a 12 year old a small apartment. Yes her mom has some fault but I hope he's not doing that 'Ill do more for my new family while ignoring my old family.' that we see on Reddit so often.
She got what she wanted. No matter what he did he wasn't going to win though. He can't and shouldn't reward her bad attitude. That is setting a bad example.
I agree 100%, both as an eldest daughter myself as well as a mother of a son and daughter. They gave her the second biggest room in the home, which she was more than happy with. When she refused to give it up when she was asked, after it was explained to her why the rearrangement was needed, she decided to get her mother involved. So, he did the next best thing: renovate the basement to be able to accommodate for their soon-to-be-born child. Fast forward to renovations being finished and now his daughter, who faught tooth-and-nail to keep the room she's in, wants to be put in the very room that was renovated specifically because she refused to switch? I don't think so! The entitlement and disregard for others in the home shown by the daughter is absolutely shameful. She's too old to be acting like a toddler. Poor guy. I believe the Dad should have put both boys into the downstairs suite, as he was originally planning for them to share a room. I also believe that his daughter and ex while find themselves with perjury charges in the future.
If fiance was this way before the wedding, the problem increases 10 fold after the wedding. Also if fiancee's family is that type of people then it's not worth the marriage.
The pregnant woman is the ONLY one to decide who is in the room. If you are close to your mother, I recommend she be there. My mother and husband were with me when I had my kids. I found my mother was a bigger comfort to me than my husband. Men really can't understand what you are going through. I'm not knocking men. I don't believe a woman who hasn't had a child can truly know either. Your mother on the other hand, knows EXACTLY what you are going through, and has your well being as her number one priority. I found that very comforting when I needed it.
In story 1, I'm kinda surprised no one in Reddit mentioned that OP's sisters were calling him an asshole for "ruining the marriage" just because the guy had money. If that guy had no money, his sisters would probably be on his side.
First story: This is a classic trick known as the groom knows how to behave himself around his soon to be wife until the ring goes on the finger. Luckily he was being a controlling a** to his in-laws to display the potential abuse down the line. The daughter dodged a major bullet and literally saved herself from being trapped in a marriage where he would have all the power because of his money and privilege. I just can't believe that the relatives are more concerned about her potential status upgrade than her own happiness.
For the first story, he might be pleased that the daughter that I choose to leave him at the altar with a print of the entire text conversation for every single guest to read it means she did love him.
For that last story, I would add a suggestion to help get feel both more autonomous and more included: repaint/ remodel her room. Let her choose new colors, rearrange the furniture get new at for the walls, etc. This way she can reaffirm her original choice while still getting the feeling of something new and nice.
She doesn't even live there exclusively. She was a brat, fought to keep her room and now wants to abandon it for better. She doesn't get that much leeway sorry. I would let her go live with my ex
Mikes family is the definition of “New Money”. They haven’t had it long enough to have acquired the class and cache that families that have had money for awhile. There are a lot of things you can buy with money, but character isn’t one of them
What's more telling is the father's family seems to not care what his daughter wants. His daughter wanted Adam there, yet they're backing the fiance. I also wonder if they don't care about Adam either.
I would never tell my son's wife or my daughter that I should be in the birthing room. I would be there for them if they wanted me but I would never assume. What is wrong with people?
The daughter room thing: Remind you ex wife that you are divorced and hang up. Take her to court and mention she is blocking family therapy, its she who who abuses her right. You had a divorce agreement, she is holding your child and using her to threaten you. Child should go to the forensics for them to check if the mother tried to alienate you. If she did, sue her for that.
Exactly. 4th OP is going to have to go court, get full custody, and have the mother's parental rights terminated, because she's trying to alienate their daughter against him.
@@danacarter9147 I don't think he's going to be able to do that. The mother already has her claws embedded into the daughter and since she's going to be able to choose who she wants to live with then I doubt she'll want him to get full custody let alone see him at all. I feel so bad for OP, he probably won't be able to see his own daughter because of the web of manipulation the mother has strung on her daughter.
People like the guy in the first story only exist to be pawns for smarter people. Acting like designer clothes and crap like that make you better when in reality it just makes the rich even richer and makes an artificial demand for such items. Egotists and classists are nothing but pawns in the world
1: If Mike treats his future MIL and BIL like trash, there’s nothing stopping him from treating the daughter badly once he thinks he has her too. Anyone blaming OP for the daughter breaking up with that shitlord can cram it. 2: The only time I’ve heard of a MIL being in the delivery room is if the woman giving birth doesn’t have any close relatives of their own, and they have a great relationship with their MIL. OP’s husband needs to stop being a mama’s boy and realize that it’s not his choice who is there for the birth. 3: I guess Hannah rewrote her memories to make herself less of a villain. Why would OP want to be around her when she was so relentlessly horrible? 4: Nope. If the daughter wants her original room so badly, she can stay in there.
Good thing you showed her to text your daughter dodged a huge bullet not marrying that ablest idiot. I’m so glad your daughter sided with you instead of being mad at you because of your dislike for the fiancé. As most of these stories Who is just support the partners no matter what and blind all wrong doings
NTA- and even if the first one was done purely out of spite like the relatives were suggesting, and it "wasn't a big deal" that doesn't change whether or not is a dealbreaker for OP's daughter. All OP did was show the texts, with full context. If you don't want someone to leave you don't do things that they find unforgivable
I was in the step sons in Story #4's position when I was 17. My parents had a long distance relationship since I was 6. (Because of my dad's job and ex). When I was 17 we all moved into the same house. My step siblings already had their rooms and there was only one room (half the size of the other 2) left. Neither of my step silicone were willing to move into the smallet room so we could share a bigger one. My sister and I agreed to temporarily share the smallest room while we renovated the "cabin". Which was just an extra building space that could easily be converted into a workshop after we moved out. My sister, parents, and I did all the work to renovate the cabin ourselves. My step siblings did NOTHING. All while my sister and I shared the small room. Our mattresses were on the floor and we had to keep our stuff in boxes, because there just wasn't any room. A few months into the move, the cabin was FINALLY finished enough that we could start living in it. I got the loft, while my sister got the spacious ground floor area. We were both also homeschooling at the time, so we used the second half of the cabin as a study/hobby area. When my step brother came home from school and saw us moving our stuff out to the cabin he was livid. He went to my dad (He HATED my mom and barely even acknowledged her existence) to whine about how HE should be moving out to the cabin. That he was the only boy, so he should get the biggest space. My dad shut him down immediately and even yelled at him for being so selfish. (My dad RARELY ever yells. He's an extremely calm man and never really even raises his voice.) My step brother then went to call his mother, who was a dead beat at best and a living embodiment of pure hatred at worst. She LIVED for making my dad's life hell. She called my dad to tell him that "Her baby DESERVED the best room in the house" and that "homewrecking whore's daughters shouldn't even be living in HER house". (Yes my dad was still married to her when he met my mom. No they were not happy. He had filled for divorce on the grounds of cheating 6mo BEFORE he met my mom.) My dad straight up hung up on her. He told my step brother that 2 kids = bigger space. 1 kid = smaller space. Meaning, since we were SHARING the space, he would have to get over it. My step brother never did. Before he moved out 2 years later (to go live with his "mommy" 🤮) he made sure to tell me that I deserved to sleep on the floor like a common whore, because that's all I'd be anyways. I have a LOT more stories featuring that misogynistic ass hat, but this one was one of my favorites. My dad did the right thing. He shut both my step brother and his ex down and left no room for argument. If it comes down to it, I'd say let the ex take the daughter. Obviously she's not interested in being a part of OP's family and doesn't respect them, their spouse, or their other kids.
Title story: Massive NTA, didn't even need to listen. In fact, OP *would* be the AH if he didn't show daughter who her fiance really is. The sister's complaints that OP was "controlling" are absolutely outrageous. Money doesn't buy manners or class. Glad the daughter saw him for who he really is, and saved herself from a crappy marriage. If the sister's that upset, then she should marry the jerk.
Your daughter needed to see the text that Mike sent to you before the wedding. Can you imagine that they get married and have children and the leverage he will have over the family? Thank God you had the courage and foresight to show itto your daughter and that she had the courage to call off the wedding. Let him find some other sucker to bully
What I like about your channel is the type of stories you choose, which most other bigger channels don't cover! Also, @GC Reddit Stories, you have an interesting accent, where is it from?
Story 1: NTA. It was fiance's fault. If he treats his wife's brother that way, imagine how he would treat his disabled child if his wife gave birth to such a child. Because there is always some chance that not all babies will be born completely healthy.
No. OP's daughter kept her bedroom. OP solved a problem by renovation of the basement. How unfair would it be if the daughter, who does not live there full time, gets the newly renovated largest bedroom? Ridiculous.
Story two, not the a hole!! Tell hubby you are a grown ass man who is married and about to have a child, it’s time to let go of mommies apron strings. My body my choice. How about this since your mom is so important you stay in the waiting room and hold her hand. Add the baby and I when we’re done will go home and you can go home with mommy because obviously she’s the most important Woman in your life.
#1 OP probably saved his daughter a horrible marriage! This clown is doesn’t deserve to marry his daughter! #2 OP has the right to deny having MIL in the delivery room.. if it were me I would tell hubby if wanted his mom in there he couldn’t be there either! If anyone should be there besides husband , it should be OP’s mom! #3 kids have a way to remember things differently than it actually happened..#4 Not the AH ...because of the ex encouraging the daughter to act up ...she’s being manipulative..
First OP is so not the AH. Mike didn't care at all about his fiancée felt about her stepbrother being there to share a important moment of her life , just about appearances to others. He is a total snob who was acting as if his having a disabled BIL was a shameful secret that he desperately didn't want his snooty upper crust friends and family to know . The fact that he even went so far as to threaten OP with NC with any future grandchildren to get his way in not having the stepbrother at the wedding was so crossing major lines and is a huge red flag. OP's daughter had every right to know that he was hugely crossing these lines and disrespecting her and her family. She needed to know about him using their future children as a weapon to blackmail her father with for daring to go against him. The aunts only care about the now ex fiancée's money and are totally willing to sell their niece off to a snobby AH who clearly doesn't care about her feelings or family because he arrogantly thinks he's doing her the favor in marrying her. OP was right to let his daughter know exactly who she was going to marry and see the red flags he was putting out before it was too late.
That first story, those sisters of OP MUST be getting some benefits or something from that s.o.b ex fiancee to be that upset about the wedding being cancelled
for a non american, it is so weird for me to learn that fathers (and mil) are allowed to witness the birth. In my country, the father and of course all the relatives wait outside, only the woman and the doctor and nurses are present.
I have a AITA question...i told hubby that when i go into labor i dont want anyone to know(except the person watching our children only cause they will have them) that im in labor or when the baby is born. Also that the first person(people) to see the new baby will be our children in person. So no pictures being sent out until then. He is now mad at me saying thats bs. I said i want his full and undivided support since I'm doing it naturally. Idc who finds out after the kids but j wanted them to know first. They were the most excited and have been waiting impatiently(lol) to meet their baby sibling. Also only he will be with me when i deliver besides the midwife. So AITA for making those restrictions?
Tell these family members that you just saved your daughter & future grandchildren from a life of abuse at the hands of this “man” & his family. Someday Mike will be in your son’s position.
Last story - totally agree with NTA above the girl and her room. I heard it on another channel that always had just the worst commenters - this channel is much better.
Story 1: NTA. OP didn't 'create' the problem - Mike did. All OP did was stand up for his step-son, and his daughter stood by their sides and called off the wedding after seeing his behavior in written form. They made the right call. Who would be happy with such a judgmental, snobbish, ableist human being like Mike?
Story 1:
AITA For showing my daughter the text her fiancé sent me?
Story 2: 4:17
AITA for “rudely” telling my husband I decide who is in the delivery room?
Story 3: 9:28
AITA for finally telling my sister I asked to move in with my dad to get away from her?
Story 4: 13:25
AITA for not giving my daughter the basement suite after I renovated it only because she refused to give up her room upstairs?
Aaw
First story. There's something everyone else seemed to have missed. He was trying to alienate her from her family. That's usually a red flag for abuse, pulling her from friends and family so she will have no-one to turn to.
NTA. Classic case of rich kid using his social position and money to be a manipulator and controller. That's why the daughter dumped his butt. She probably thought if he's already trying to pull the "you'll never see your grandchildren" card with her dad before there's a marriage what's this man going to do after the ceremony not just to her dad but to her or any kids they have? OP did what every good parent should do and exposed his daughter to the truth of who this man is.
@@MrJpaynebb do you think women are now-a-days innocent to submit to a man's order. Why man think they have any control over us...😎😎😎good for him to.... because if she would have known after marriage then she not only have divorced him but also would have taken his 50% property....😂😂😂 For emotional abuse by showing those proofs to court. He probably fears her that's the reason he cannot directly tell her to cut contact with her family.... coward man🎉🎉🎉he knows that his ass will get kicked by her if she hears anything like that...
I'm sure the daughter had already been having concerns about her fiancé before the OP showed her his messages. This was probably the last straw for her.
@@nabaninandi4140 You're very lucky you've never been around a manipulator.
You're statement is a bit naive.
Keep that strength, though.
Bingo. He just spoke as if he could keep OP away from any future grandchildren? Ignoring the nuclear option threat... exactly how did Mike think he could do that? The only way he could do that if he could just tell his wife to not let her own father see her son. That isn't a red flag, its an insane assumption that you can control your wife to do something 99% of the spouses would never agree to.
The first OP saved her daughters life from a crappy marriage.
A good Father’s work is never done and they will do so regardless of their opinion of others. OP is a great Dad!
*his. A) P sure he mentioned her mother died, and b) widowER, aka male.
First Story; Another brilliant story that proves money doesn't buy class.
It can buy three letters of the word class however
That guy was going to end up being super controlling. He was already trying to isolate her from her family and was probably gonna use all that money to keep her under his thumb
My Dad became a bigger jerk the more money he got. He was EXTREMELY entitled! He passed already and when my mother passes I’m paying the taxes and 95% is going to charity. I don’t want to be turned.
People say money can't buy happiness. Happiness is a complex thing that has many parts. On thing which is simple is that money can't buy manners and human decency.
@@cryptiecreep he was probably treating her like shit already tbh
OP’s sisters in Story 1 are only mad that the wedding is off because they wanted the “perks” of having a niece who was married to a rich husband. They were probably fantasizing about the expensive Christmas gifts, summer vacation abroad, yachts and beach houses, etc. It doesn’t matter if Mike’s family had those things, the sisters had the expectation of experiencing those things. They don’t give a damn about Mike’s character, they’re just greedy.
Then one of them should marry mike if they don't care how shitty the man is
This!!! 💯 Right!
@@vaporean_boylove.0w083 aunt sounds like a gold digger
So true
They would go to the wedding but seeing how Mike looks down on op's family they wouldn't get a shit.
1st story : Umm....... I think the relatives are bitter that they couldn't attend the high class wedding anymore rather than being concern about the bride and groom. Like......how can they assume that the father was in the wrong, when the groom wanted to cut her brother off from the wedding without her knowing ?
For the sisters, it was less High Class Wedding and more they sound like Gold Diggers trying to live Vicariously through OPs Daughter
@@pnorbert2222 and they saw Mike as an ATM.
First Story NTA imagine how "fiancee" would treat the kids potentially and the examples he would set. You saved your own daughter from a terrible marriage (the Guy needs a reality check)
And the Fiance still thinks this is about the brother coming to the wedding.
If he had a disabled child, he's probably dump them in a state home or something
@@NDNauthorgirlie or claim the daughter cheated
I feel so bad for the women whose husbands finally show their true colors when they're pregnant, and usually close to delivery.
me too. studies show that domestic violence and abuse rates increase greatly for pregnant women.
@@Slythegirl123 TIL this fact and it breaks my heart
Story 2: make sure you let the staff know she is not allowed near you. Let them know your spouse may try to get them to let his mother in. Give them a photo of her. Make sure on the day that you tell them your decision hasn't changed and if she tries to enter, you want her arrested.
They're only going to try to have her arrested if she pitches a fit for about 20 minutes/tries to take a swing at someone. Then they'll load her up with about 5 mg of Haldol and throw her on a stretcher. My exMIL tried this sh*t.
Op is YTA aswel. It is really bad to threaten to not allow the dad to see his kids birth
@@GloriousDutchPancakes did you not listen to most of the story because the husband was yelling loud enough that when he left the neighbor came over to check on op because she was about to call 911
@@GloriousDutchPancakes his first thought was of his mother and not the wife/mother of his child. He doesn’t have his priorities in order. It’s not his naked body that’s being on display.
I can’t believe the MIL and husband feels she’s entitled to be there for the birth especially with their relationship with how poorly she treated op over the years. She only got “better” with op when they got pregnant, guess because of this and knows she has to treat op better if she wants to come over and such to see the baby. Idk why the husband thought that of all people to be the second person there for the delivery that it would be his mother and not op’s mom or sisters. Giving birth is a stressful, scary, painful and Intimate thing to go through. She needs love, help and support, not her MIL who treats her poorly, ridicules and stresses her out.
story #3- the fact that she went back to therapy after this "revelation" , rather than denying, having a tantrum or being bitter, may be a good sign and show there is hope for her.
But one thing I'm confused about, the way OP said it, did they mean that if she would have agreed to leave her room, she would have not gotten any renovation, and the renovation only happened, because she refused to leave, is that correct way to read? 14:52 ish
Story 1 OP had nothing to do with the daughter calling off the wedding. She made that decision for herself when she came to her senses and realised what a nasty snob her fiance is.
The fact that family members in the first story volunteered to watch Adam while his dad went to the wedding like he was some kind of child that needs babysitting when he’s seventeen and disabled, is also pretty gross if he can take care of himself on his own.
It seems trashfire fiancé isn’t the only one who might be ableist in this situation
They didn't volunteer anything. They said they would have someone watch him.
Why do people think that just because a woman is giving birth, that her body isn't hers anymore and everyone can just gawk at it? What if OP ends up needing a c-section? Is MIL going to go around the curtain and watch the doctor moving her internal organs around?
Tell me about. I recall when I was pregnant I got so much shit for not wanting anyone to be present during my labor. These were just my feelings and not actually the birth plan. However I was berated for "being selfish", endangering my child, blah, blah, blah. 👎🏾
@@Gumbier_Than The only ones who absolutely had to present during a childbirth is the medical team. Everyone else is the mother´s priviledge to choose, yes including the father.
That's because some people are so shameless, they don't care who see what. That is such a personal and private moment.
First story...girl had a lucky escape...bless her, her loving dad and brother...much love to you all ❤
Second story, Run. do not walk you married a mama's boy. This is not the first or last times he will chime in on his mother's side over rather than your side.
Did he want Mom to witness the conception too? Not a documentary people.
Story 1: Mike is lucky he didn't get punched in the face, what a POS.
Story 3: That was the most kind way I've seen someone tell the truth, to someone who made their life hell. I grew up without a dad, that is no excuse to destroy someone's property, throw tantrums and act like a POS. The sister is lying when she says she doesn't remember, she 100% remembers but is too embarrassed to apologize and admit that she was the problem. The OP doesn't even hate her for the fact, all she did was remind her that she's the reason she left in the most gentle way possible.
Story 4: The daughter is 100% being manipulated by the mother to act and throw tantrums. Father asked her if she could switch rooms, she said no and he respected her wishes. Then father builds up downstairs to solve the room issue, now daughter is throwing a tantrum that she wants the nicer/bigger room. Her behavior is 100% unacceptable and OP should take the ex to court for parental alienation.
This! A thousand times this!!
Last story: Daughter got what she wanted, to keep her room!! Now all of a sudden this is a problem. The brothers needed a larger space and the baby got the smaller room. It sounds like everything worked out the way it should have.
Its possible that mom helped her rewrite what she did and after awhile of mom telling her she didn't destroy OP'S stuff it didn't happen and the big bad courts forced her to live with her father. You get told this many times over tthe years you start to believe it.
@@Mew_Mokuba_Akari My grandma told my dad and his siblings that their dad never payed child support even though he had receipts proving he did, only my middle aunt even looked at his evidence. Also said he was physically abusive which was another lie. In fact, my grandma put them up to trashing my grandpa's place after which he kind of just gave up trying to see them. They didn't see their dad for nearly 30 years until my mom forced them. I met my grandpa for the first time at his sister's funeral
Story 4: Dude asked his teenage daughter to give up her room for what in her eyes amounts to a random pile of feces. No is a reasonable answer to that. He then effectively punished and shamed her in front of her step family (the aforementioned pile of crap) for not acceding to the request. In her eyes her father is prioritizing his new families needs over her's and there is no way that ever turns out good. To a lot of children of divorce step siblings aren't family, they're just strangers who constantly remind you that your parent is fully capable of doing the things he failed to do to keep your family together.
From the daughters perspective that story goes:
Dad- Can you give up your sanctum to some random invaders you hate?
Girl- No.
Dad- You are a bad daughter and should be willing to sacrifice for this family I'm forcing on you.
Girl- ........
Dad- I'm going to make even better stuff for my new better family.
Girl- .......
Dad- U mad?
Girl- Okay, have fun with your new family then.
Story 2
Honestly if I was the mom, i would ask the doctor if he could explain why keep the mom stressfree in fully detail to the dad just to hammer WHY mom's need to stressfree
It won't do any good. You can't reason with stupid.
True but if anyone says anything you can say I went with him to the doctor and this is the doctor said
You forgot the 'be'.
"My relative came and berated me for showing the truth" 🤷🏻♀️🙄 what's wrong with people.
Many people find the truth (or the right thing for that manner) inconvenient. The daughter was going to marry this rich guy making her and her family set for life. When truthfully he was an ableist bigot who had a huge chip on his shoulder about her beloved yet disabled Stepbrother.
the gaslighting is real in story 1, his daughter's life would have been hell.
Mike was the one making threats...why is it OP's fault that her daughter decided she didn't wanna deal with a prick like him. She deserves to know the kind of man she was involved.
Not your fault, but you have limited power, and her mother can make decisions unilaterally. Your daughter grabbed the biggest stick available and started swinging. She wants you to hold her number one priority, not realizing that you have limited power and/or options. Given that you have less autonomy than your ex,she may opt for her. So very sorry.
I'm sorry...what?
@@StonedHunter I want a hit of whatever that person is smoking while typing that comment.
@@j.a.y.j.a.y.1107 I don't XD whatever it is gave him a big bad case of stupid it seems
In the 1st story, if hes not treating the family well and you guys are respectful and welcoming to him, then hes not treating your daughter well either.
This!!! He was probably treating her like shit and him threatening her dad with not seeing his grandkids/trying to uninvite her brother was the final straw
OP did say the guy treated her well. I think he would've start treating her the same way after the wedding.
@@darrynllee If you are disrespectful of your partner's family though can you really call that treating your partner well? Unless the family are a bunch of terrible people that deserve the disrespect and the partner is on board with it with it. I wouldn't feel cared for or respected by my partner if they treated my family like that even if I don't always get along with them. PS people in unhealthy relationships don't always know when they are not being treated well....
Imagine if the daughter and Mike got married and they had a disabled kid, how would Mike treat that kid?
People with true "class" make everyone feel welcomed and loved. They are not smug braggarts.
The daughter wanted her beloved stepbrother at HER wedding. AH, the fiance wanted to dictate otherwise. The daughter's Aunts should be backing her rather than butthead! Even after being told by his betrothed that she wanted her brother there and appeared to back off, he is still telling Dad that he should be leaving the brother at home. Why wouldn't Dad tell her what is going on, not because he hates the guy but because he loves his daughter?
I had to go back to check and it seems the sisters were getting their hopes up for nothing, if Mike doesn't like Op and Adam for being a lower class, what makes the sisters think they're gonna be treated any better? Them being the daughters aunts isn't gonna change anything, so it's unlikely they'll be able reap any of the benefits of having a rich nephew in law and Mike would probably shut them down if they tried. If he thinks less of Op and Adam, he thinks less of all of them.
This.
It seems like they were banking on a bank here
"High class" doesn't treat other people like crap just because they are in a lower economic bracket, or are disabled. Class has nothing to do with money.
Delivery Room: NTA. Were I OP, I would make it a condition that, if I were to even consider (consider, mind, not promise) the mother in law being there and viewing 'my' intimate parts, she would have a number of pornographic shots of her intimate parts made, and give OP full rights to post them online as she wishes. All photos must have face visible. If she's not willing to let random people see her intimately, then she shouldn't expect to see OP that way, either. Be prepared to post that solution publicly if it escalates :)
😂😂😂😂😂
1st story: The sisters have golddigging mindset, all they care is is daughter marrying a rich guy.
Story 2. OP tell your husband that your Father, his Father in law will be with him when he goes for his next Prostrate examination! See how he reacts to that, this is so stupid why are so many MIL's demanding to be at the birth it is weird. Personally I would rather not be present and be like a Fifties Father in the waiting room handing out cigars when told by the doctor it's a Boy/Girl and Mother and Baby are doing fine!
What a great idea re the Prostate exam!
My niece's mother-in-law was the same when the first grandchild was due. I was shocked that any MIL would assume it was her 'right' to see her grandchild being born. My niece [who is estranged from her mother] phoned me in a bit of a panic and I reassured her it was an outrageous request. She said to me she felt if she needed to have any female relative or friend at the birth it would only be in an emergency [e.g if her husband could not make it for the birth], and in that case it would be me. I made it quite clear if that happened, I would be remaining *firmly* at the top end, wiping her brow etc. :-)
My MIL gave hubs and her family the world sickness 3 days before I gave birth.
"Since it was his wedding."
Bruh, it was their (OP's daughter and her fiance) wedding, it wasn't just his. His word is not the only word.
Story 1: NTA just cause someone comes from money doesn't mean that they'll be a good spouse/parent. He may have treated OP's daughter with kindness and love, but to her stepbrother, whom she clearly loves with her whole heart, he was uncaring and demeaning. Treating OP and his stepson-her main family members-as if they were beneath him just shows how much more important his social status is rather than being a good person.
Its Bride's wish not to get married, others are only seeing the Groom's wallet.
Mike Defiantly would've shown his true colors after the honey-moon phase. She most likely would have been stuck in a controlling and abusive relationship.
The guy was just being a good dad for Adam
Story Four: Am I showing my age by immediately thinking about 'The Brady Bunch' episode where the attic is turned into a bedroom and Greg and Marcia fight over it? I personally would have given it to Jan to mute her whining. I AM NOT OLD! (You're only young once but you can be immature forever!)
By the way it’s sad that the husband resorted to using the silent treatment to manipulate her.
2nd: U married a mama's boy!! Run away, run away from the pain yeah, yeah yeah yeah
Run away run away from the pain yeah yeah!! Yeah yeah yeah yeah yeah!! Run away, run away, run, run away!! - Aerosmith 4th: The Brady Bunch BS DOES NOT WORK!!! YTA, sorry 2 say!!
Yes even when op said they only have a good relationship now that she's pregnant. Giving birth is the most vulnerable moment of someone's life and if they doesn't get along with her mother in law should be forced to have someone she doesn't like there.
They're both dumb,how she said the dead weight comment was super manipulative
@@sebastianpizxa1553 not really considering what her husband her husband was trying to pull
@@sebastianpizxa1553 If her husband is that oblivious to his wife's needs now, he will only be worse during labor. An oblivious partner in the delivery room is literally dead weight. Delivery would be easier for the wife if her immature mommy's boy husband was just in the waiting room with his mother in that case.
"Treating her well" would have stopped the moment the honeymoon was over. He had abusive POS written all over him.
The sisters said that OP wanted his daughter to be not happy? His daughter said that she WANTED Adam at the wedding. So I don’t see the logic in their statement. I want to see what the daughter says to her aunts after that load of bullshit.
That first story. Dear god. I wonder how he would have acted if he and the daughter had a disabled child. I bet he would smother the baby in its crib if that’s how he acts about a person in a wheelchair. He also sounds like the kind of person to favor boys over girls and to scream at the mother if she pops out a girl. OP did the right thing alerting his daughter to exactly what kind of *MONSTER* she was engaged to.
Dude saved his daughter from a horrible marriage. Congrats ur dad of the year in my opinion.
Last story. The problem is definitely the Ex-wife who is taking out her frustrations towards OP through the daughter. The daughter was asked a fairly reasonable request as she is not there all the time but refused. The basement was renovated and the eldest boy got it and now she is upset and playing the victim whilst again not being there full time. The Ex taking this to court is vindictive and speaks of other underlaying issues. When the daughter is called to give evidence remember she must be truthful so any lies she speaks have your lawyer challenge in court both her and the mother could be in trouble if they lie to the court and it is proven.
The first comment to this story also had a point; was this her room prior to his remarriage? If so, I can see the anger. He also went from wanting the 2 step-sons rooming together to giving a 12 year old a small apartment.
Yes her mom has some fault but I hope he's not doing that 'Ill do more for my new family while ignoring my old family.' that we see on Reddit so often.
She got what she wanted. No matter what he did he wasn't going to win though. He can't and shouldn't reward her bad attitude. That is setting a bad example.
NTA, by digging her heels in and refusing daughter probably cost OP 10k in renovation costs. If she cost OP money, OP can choose who goes in where.
I agree 100%, both as an eldest daughter myself as well as a mother of a son and daughter.
They gave her the second biggest room in the home, which she was more than happy with. When she refused to give it up when she was asked, after it was explained to her why the rearrangement was needed, she decided to get her mother involved. So, he did the next best thing: renovate the basement to be able to accommodate for their soon-to-be-born child.
Fast forward to renovations being finished and now his daughter, who faught tooth-and-nail to keep the room she's in, wants to be put in the very room that was renovated specifically because she refused to switch? I don't think so!
The entitlement and disregard for others in the home shown by the daughter is absolutely shameful. She's too old to be acting like a toddler.
Poor guy. I believe the Dad should have put both boys into the downstairs suite, as he was originally planning for them to share a room. I also believe that his daughter and ex while find themselves with perjury charges in the future.
If fiance was this way before the wedding, the problem increases 10 fold after the wedding. Also if fiancee's family is that type of people then it's not worth the marriage.
You wait until you're already knocked up, to worry about his emotional intelligence?
The pregnant woman is the ONLY one to decide who is in the room. If you are close to your mother, I recommend she be there. My mother and husband were with me when I had my kids. I found my mother was a bigger comfort to me than my husband. Men really can't understand what you are going through. I'm not knocking men. I don't believe a woman who hasn't had a child can truly know either. Your mother on the other hand, knows EXACTLY what you are going through, and has your well being as her number one priority. I found that very comforting when I needed it.
In story 1, I'm kinda surprised no one in Reddit mentioned that OP's sisters were calling him an asshole for "ruining the marriage" just because the guy had money. If that guy had no money, his sisters would probably be on his side.
First story: This is a classic trick known as the groom knows how to behave himself around his soon to be wife until the ring goes on the finger. Luckily he was being a controlling a** to his in-laws to display the potential abuse down the line. The daughter dodged a major bullet and literally saved herself from being trapped in a marriage where he would have all the power because of his money and privilege. I just can't believe that the relatives are more concerned about her potential status upgrade than her own happiness.
The fact that the sisters seem to only care about mikes wealth and NOT how he treated your son speaks volumes
2nd story: husband needs to grow a backbone and stand up to his mom.
For the first story, he might be pleased that the daughter that I choose to leave him at the altar with a print of the entire text conversation for every single guest to read it means she did love him.
For that last story, I would add a suggestion to help get feel both more autonomous and more included: repaint/ remodel her room. Let her choose new colors, rearrange the furniture get new at for the walls, etc. This way she can reaffirm her original choice while still getting the feeling of something new and nice.
Then the mother will twist it around in future.
She doesn't even live there exclusively. She was a brat, fought to keep her room and now wants to abandon it for better. She doesn't get that much leeway sorry. I would let her go live with my ex
Mikes family is the definition of “New Money”. They haven’t had it long enough to have acquired the class and cache that families that have had money for awhile. There are a lot of things you can buy with money, but character isn’t one of them
He Never would have made a room like that for her, that's why she's hurt.
What's more telling is the father's family seems to not care what his daughter wants. His daughter wanted Adam there, yet they're backing the fiance. I also wonder if they don't care about Adam either.
I am so tired of kids who are old enough to know better having their behavior excused by people who are not involved.
I would never tell my son's wife or my daughter that I should be in the birthing room. I would be there for them if they wanted me but I would never assume. What is wrong with people?
The daughter room thing: Remind you ex wife that you are divorced and hang up. Take her to court and mention she is blocking family therapy, its she who who abuses her right. You had a divorce agreement, she is holding your child and using her to threaten you. Child should go to the forensics for them to check if the mother tried to alienate you. If she did, sue her for that.
It sounds like the mom is putting thoughts into her daughters head that you love the new family more.
Exactly. 4th OP is going to have to go court, get full custody, and have the mother's parental rights terminated, because she's trying to alienate their daughter against him.
@@danacarter9147 I don't think he's going to be able to do that. The mother already has her claws embedded into the daughter and since she's going to be able to choose who she wants to live with then I doubt she'll want him to get full custody let alone see him at all. I feel so bad for OP, he probably won't be able to see his own daughter because of the web of manipulation the mother has strung on her daughter.
2nd Story: OP’S BODY, OP’S CHOICE! PERIOD, END OF DISCUSSION!
Why do husbands think they have a say in your MEDICAL PROCEDURE? Let her view his prostate exam, and shut it, hubby.
First story. Umm hello??? She THE BRIDE INVITED her brother.
Story 3: NTA. Hannah needs therapy. Probably she is jelous about your relationship with your father.
Story 4. NTA.
Final Story: NTA... she doesn't even live with you, why would she get the "prime" room?
Story 4: NTA. Daughter made her choice and is now pissed she lost the chance of a bigger room. Play childish games, win NOTHING at all.
1.- NTA. The family wanted an ATM-in-law.
She is entitled enough said you shouldn't let her move in the basement
People like the guy in the first story only exist to be pawns for smarter people. Acting like designer clothes and crap like that make you better when in reality it just makes the rich even richer and makes an artificial demand for such items. Egotists and classists are nothing but pawns in the world
1: If Mike treats his future MIL and BIL like trash, there’s nothing stopping him from treating the daughter badly once he thinks he has her too. Anyone blaming OP for the daughter breaking up with that shitlord can cram it.
2: The only time I’ve heard of a MIL being in the delivery room is if the woman giving birth doesn’t have any close relatives of their own, and they have a great relationship with their MIL. OP’s husband needs to stop being a mama’s boy and realize that it’s not his choice who is there for the birth.
3: I guess Hannah rewrote her memories to make herself less of a villain. Why would OP want to be around her when she was so relentlessly horrible?
4: Nope. If the daughter wants her original room so badly, she can stay in there.
Good thing you showed her to text your daughter dodged a huge bullet not marrying that ablest idiot. I’m so glad your daughter sided with you instead of being mad at you because of your dislike for the fiancé. As most of these stories Who is just support the partners no matter what and blind all wrong doings
I LOVE THIS STEP DAD, OP IS GREAT
Father of a teen. Would he have renovated the room for her? Still, daughter is being manipulative by mother and that is making things difficult.
Keep MIL out of the delivery room, and hubby too. It's all your choice.
NTA- and even if the first one was done purely out of spite like the relatives were suggesting, and it "wasn't a big deal" that doesn't change whether or not is a dealbreaker for OP's daughter. All OP did was show the texts, with full context. If you don't want someone to leave you don't do things that they find unforgivable
Im proud of you for showing your daughter the text. He is a lowlife not high class
??? How has giving birth become a spectator sport???
I was in the step sons in Story #4's position when I was 17. My parents had a long distance relationship since I was 6. (Because of my dad's job and ex). When I was 17 we all moved into the same house. My step siblings already had their rooms and there was only one room (half the size of the other 2) left. Neither of my step silicone were willing to move into the smallet room so we could share a bigger one. My sister and I agreed to temporarily share the smallest room while we renovated the "cabin". Which was just an extra building space that could easily be converted into a workshop after we moved out.
My sister, parents, and I did all the work to renovate the cabin ourselves. My step siblings did NOTHING. All while my sister and I shared the small room. Our mattresses were on the floor and we had to keep our stuff in boxes, because there just wasn't any room. A few months into the move, the cabin was FINALLY finished enough that we could start living in it. I got the loft, while my sister got the spacious ground floor area. We were both also homeschooling at the time, so we used the second half of the cabin as a study/hobby area.
When my step brother came home from school and saw us moving our stuff out to the cabin he was livid. He went to my dad (He HATED my mom and barely even acknowledged her existence) to whine about how HE should be moving out to the cabin. That he was the only boy, so he should get the biggest space. My dad shut him down immediately and even yelled at him for being so selfish. (My dad RARELY ever yells. He's an extremely calm man and never really even raises his voice.) My step brother then went to call his mother, who was a dead beat at best and a living embodiment of pure hatred at worst. She LIVED for making my dad's life hell. She called my dad to tell him that "Her baby DESERVED the best room in the house" and that "homewrecking whore's daughters shouldn't even be living in HER house". (Yes my dad was still married to her when he met my mom. No they were not happy. He had filled for divorce on the grounds of cheating 6mo BEFORE he met my mom.)
My dad straight up hung up on her. He told my step brother that 2 kids = bigger space. 1 kid = smaller space. Meaning, since we were SHARING the space, he would have to get over it.
My step brother never did. Before he moved out 2 years later (to go live with his "mommy" 🤮) he made sure to tell me that I deserved to sleep on the floor like a common whore, because that's all I'd be anyways.
I have a LOT more stories featuring that misogynistic ass hat, but this one was one of my favorites.
My dad did the right thing. He shut both my step brother and his ex down and left no room for argument.
If it comes down to it, I'd say let the ex take the daughter. Obviously she's not interested in being a part of OP's family and doesn't respect them, their spouse, or their other kids.
Title story: Massive NTA, didn't even need to listen. In fact, OP *would* be the AH if he didn't show daughter who her fiance really is. The sister's complaints that OP was "controlling" are absolutely outrageous. Money doesn't buy manners or class. Glad the daughter saw him for who he really is, and saved herself from a crappy marriage. If the sister's that upset, then she should marry the jerk.
God, it was so much easier when even the father wasn’t allowed in the delivery room. Lol
Your daughter needed to see the text that Mike sent to you before the wedding. Can you imagine that they get married and have children and the leverage he will have over the family? Thank God you had the courage and foresight to show itto your daughter and that she had the courage to call off the wedding. Let him find some other sucker to bully
Mil in delivery room: When did childbirth become a spectator sport?
What I like about your channel is the type of stories you choose, which most other bigger channels don't cover! Also, @GC Reddit Stories, you have an interesting accent, where is it from?
im positive she's filipina
Story 1: NTA. It was fiance's fault.
If he treats his wife's brother that way, imagine how he would treat his disabled child if his wife gave birth to such a child. Because there is always some chance that not all babies will be born completely healthy.
No. OP's daughter kept her bedroom. OP solved a problem by renovation of the basement. How unfair would it be if the daughter, who does not live there full time, gets the newly renovated largest bedroom? Ridiculous.
Tell your doctors they are not allowed in the delivery room.
To the 1st story u right to show her them text she wanted her Brother and sister and dad at HER WEDDING
I hope your neighbor lets your husband know how close he came to being investigated for DV
Story two, not the a hole!! Tell hubby you are a grown ass man who is married and about to have a child, it’s time to let go of mommies apron strings. My body my choice. How about this since your mom is so important you stay in the waiting room and hold her hand. Add the baby and I when we’re done will go home and you can go home with mommy because obviously she’s the most important Woman in your life.
#1 OP probably saved his daughter a horrible marriage! This clown is doesn’t deserve to marry his daughter! #2 OP has the right to deny having MIL in the delivery room.. if it were me I would tell hubby if wanted his mom in there he couldn’t be there either! If anyone should be there besides husband , it should be OP’s mom! #3 kids have a way to remember things differently than it actually happened..#4 Not the AH ...because of the ex encouraging the daughter to act up ...she’s being manipulative..
First OP is so not the AH. Mike didn't care at all about his fiancée felt about her stepbrother being there to share a important moment of her life , just about appearances to others. He is a total snob who was acting as if his having a disabled BIL was a shameful secret that he desperately didn't want his snooty upper crust friends and family to know . The fact that he even went so far as to threaten OP with NC with any future grandchildren to get his way in not having the stepbrother at the wedding was so crossing major lines and is a huge red flag. OP's daughter had every right to know that he was hugely crossing these lines and disrespecting her and her family. She needed to know about him using their future children as a weapon to blackmail her father with for daring to go against him. The aunts only care about the now ex fiancée's money and are totally willing to sell their niece off to a snobby AH who clearly doesn't care about her feelings or family because he arrogantly thinks he's doing her the favor in marrying her. OP was right to let his daughter know exactly who she was going to marry and see the red flags he was putting out before it was too late.
That first story, those sisters of OP MUST be getting some benefits or something from that s.o.b ex fiancee to be that upset about the wedding being cancelled
for a non american, it is so weird for me to learn that fathers (and mil) are allowed to witness the birth. In my country, the father and of course all the relatives wait outside, only the woman and the doctor and nurses are present.
These "Sisters" in the first story are awful people
I have a AITA question...i told hubby that when i go into labor i dont want anyone to know(except the person watching our children only cause they will have them) that im in labor or when the baby is born. Also that the first person(people) to see the new baby will be our children in person. So no pictures being sent out until then. He is now mad at me saying thats bs. I said i want his full and undivided support since I'm doing it naturally. Idc who finds out after the kids but j wanted them to know first. They were the most excited and have been waiting impatiently(lol) to meet their baby sibling. Also only he will be with me when i deliver besides the midwife. So AITA for making those restrictions?
Absolutely not.
The room was the mom's fault and she will regret it in the long run.
Story 1: Holy shit. Everyone should be Thanking OP. He saved his daughter from some truly horrible people.
Tell these family members that you just saved your daughter & future grandchildren from a life of abuse at the hands of this “man” & his family.
Someday Mike will be in your son’s position.
I have never heard of anyone being in the delivery room other than the father. WTF.
Boggles my mind that people can't just keep their baby in the living room
Last story - totally agree with NTA above the girl and her room. I heard it on another channel that always had just the worst commenters - this channel is much better.
Story 1: NTA. OP didn't 'create' the problem - Mike did. All OP did was stand up for his step-son, and his daughter stood by their sides and called off the wedding after seeing his behavior in written form. They made the right call. Who would be happy with such a judgmental, snobbish, ableist human being like Mike?