Engine rebuild or engine swap detroit diesel 671 dusted and over heated engine
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- Опубликовано: 6 сен 2024
- After closer inspection and consideration we chose option B and found a running take out 4104 detroit diesel 671 to swap. Much better investment for the owner
You know how you can tell when you love what you do? When making the customer happy and doing a great job mean more than money. 👍
Better honest than rich, especially where mechanics are concerned.
The real value of this video was to show how thinking a little out of the box ended up being a win-win for the customer and for Scott. Looking forward to the rest of the stories!
Looks like he got a alternator with the new setup to boot!!!
That is a strong tractor! By the way, there is a product that will really help you out for that container with the Thing in it. It is called Damp Rid. It gets rid of the excess moisture and it comes in different sizes as well as a refillable one. I use it in my garage to keep the moisture in control so my Pontiac Chieftain stays nice and a small one inside the car as well. Good Luck putting the new engine in.
Detroit Diesels are extremely tough. The ones I worked on were in big air-compressors used to power drill rigs in rock quarries....nothing but dirt and dust. Ingersol-Rand actually had a very good air flow design through the whole box, such that the lion's share of the grit would precipitate down before it got to the engine compartment. The Donaldson dual dry canister filters (inner and outer) did a good job too. 1500 HR rebuilds were still the norm though. But I swear we had machines come in with just oil rings left intact and they would still run, even if just on a few cyclinders. The 855 Cummins engines that came later in the 1990's were strong engines but if they lost a cylinder they just were pretty much out of the game. So very cool to see you keeping these old engines alive.
id say advantage of 2stroke as it needs 1/2 the motion of others
You are a good and fair man Scott. I watch every video you release. And I have the hat and T-shirt to prove it!!
hello scott sorry to hear you ran into alot of problems with your customers detroit diesel 671 engine but glad to hear and see your got a new engine to install into your customers bus i'm sure he will be way happy about that enjoyed seeing the new one arrive on your property to be installed so thankyou for this video and thankyou kelly for filmingand videoing this video so until next one i say bye for now and take care and stay safe from Randy from ontario,canada.
SCOTT YOU ARE GREAT MAN HELPING OLD BUS ON HERE
Hell the back tires never came off the ground. That tractor has a lot left in it lol
the tractor operator acts SCARED
@@txslim3338 Maybe a little bit, but I like to say "respectful" - lol. Enjoyed the video!
txslim nope just a sign of experience in “better safe than cocky/sorry” when handling other people’s money.
Keep up the great videos.
I have twin 8v53s in my 1969 Chris Craft 47.
Gotta love them leaktroits
Down here in NE Texas we call a dusted engine a sanded up engine. Did an in-frame on a Ford 335 industrial for that reason. Mouse chewed through a rubber transition hose from the steel tube leaving the air filter and to the intake manifold.Mouse was smart:low on the back side of the hose. Last place I would look.....
I worked at a plant where there was a roots blower that was used to vacuum up coke, and not the cola. The blower was not producing enough suction and the electric motor was not drawing as much amperage as it should have. The mechanics at the plant put new rotor seals and it didn't fix the problem. I am an electrician and told them I knew a fellow who bought a 6-71 blower and found the case was worn out and could not be rebuilt. They laughed at me saying the cases didn't have anything to do with it that the rotor seals determined the performance of the blower. They put it back together and it was only slightly better before, barely useable. Trying to explain that housings are also wear items was just not possible.
"I wont make as much money!".......oh but down the road it will pay off, cause he will recommend you to others, and you have video proof you did the right thing here, so its a win win deal for you Scott!
6:20 A happy customer is a return customer and word of mouth advertiser.
All because it lacked just a few dollars worth of oil in the air cleaners.and maybe a couple air ducts.
some people dont deserve too own/drive ANYTHING!
Seeing that ,to me it looks like it has been that way long before the present owner bought it. As BGM says,it has ben run for a very long time without filters.
It amazes me how many people dont do even basic maintenence
On going maintenance and care are the best prescription for longevity.
@@oldcarnocar at least this new owner did the right thing.he took it to a pro to be checked out.but it was damaged before he bought it.
Suggest you put a hole in each fork for a pin to prevent chain sliding off. Hole won’t hurt capacity but can be great safety device.
Sure, you could've sold the guy on rebuilding everything, and pocketed a pretty sweet payday to boot. BUT....all that potential money can't buy a good reputation, and that's worth it's weight in gold(separates you from those shysters in Whiteland, for sure). So is a good tractor with a front-loader assembly and fork attachment...
That's an awesome deal... Hope it works out well... Look forward to seeing the swap and it going with the new heart!!
This was a very good explanation of the situation. You are an honest guy who knows his stuff. I am always excited to see that you have posted another video.
When I was swinging spanners we always said we’ll never be rich but we’ll always sleep well!
This is awesome, can't wait to see how this is swapped. You have my undevided attention. This is the largest engine r&r I've ever seen. Be careful 👍👍😁
Exciting......looking forward to the transplant 👍
Wow, that's a deal,, glad your trusty assistant is back...good luck with it . Be safe !
Looks good so far.. Hope it turns out well for your customer ...Good Luck..
Cool deal keep up the good work
Scott you are living proof that you don't have to be dishonest to make a livin in the mechanics business.
Hello Scott !! You did a real good job handling the Kubota with lifting that engine!! Your judgment was very wise with the lifting part in that you only lifted the engine high enough to safely move the engine where you wanted it put, What you did was a general rule of thumb in moving ANYTHING with a forklift ! In training classes they ALWAYS tell you this, Do not lift the load way high, ONLY HIGH ENOUGH to move the item safely! Of course when you are lifting the old engine out of the bus and putting the good running engine in you lift as high as needed to get the job done. Bravo to Scott and to Kelly too for spotting the move and help the way she did, BRAVO ------------- John Bellas KC2UVN 73's my friends!!
I really appreciate your attention to diagnosis. I'd rather my customers be happy with an extra diagnosis fee than a come back or break down
Well then RUclips is ripping me off because it says there are only 2 midroll ads.
Correction is that it was less than 8 interruptions but it felt like 8
With apologies for my overestimation.
Looking forward to your next video with new engine ? Thanks for sharing. Stay safe and healthy 🇬🇧
Impressive undertaking !
Nice, he can keep the old engine as a spare if he ever needs one.:)
this bus would need a bumper sticker that says: Engine swapped by The Bus Grease Monkey.
That would be so cool!
This bus saved by Bus Grease Monkey!
That replacement engine/transmission combo was a SUPER score! Even if it needs a small in-frame to replace a cylinder kit. Are you going to yank the head off and take a look before doing the swap?
Hope things work out well, looks like its going to be a good swap. You going to go over the new engine a bit before putting it in there? Make sure it does not have any major problems before getting it swung in there, it might be worth taking off the inspection covers and taking a look. Looks like it will still be a good job.
I'm glad he bought another engine.
I can’t wait for the videos !!! I’m fired up I wish I was there to help👍🏻
Thats why like the DDs simple to fix and change the whole engine as a unit if neded.
👍👍👍😀😀👍👍
My grandfather had a trucking company. He like DD for that very reason. He was also a former GM employee, and seemed to have a loyalty to them.
I was searching for pre crd diesels when i found bus Grass monkeys Chanel.
I do not know why dd but those engines are a work of art cant help it.
I am into my second diesels car i had a BMW 320d a 2 liter engine but now i ve got a Mercedes 2.2 L.
But those dd engines are so nice cant get enough of them.
$100 radiator. WOW. Good luck. Sounds like a very good deal. Look forward to the videos'.
Check the main and big end bearings? Probably fooked, but an inframe is pretty cheap even with new bearings. Might make a good spare for yourself out of it.
Good work Scott. Everything's big! And heavy.
Not only was it economical to get the donor engine, you'll have peace of mind that something wouldn't go haywire with the old engine despite your best efforts to clean it up and rebuild it.
Well done. Might want to throttle up the tractor when you go to install it. That will give you full hydraulic fluid flow and should help.
It didn’t even struggle i just took it slow and easy.
Idle speed is best for delicate maneuvers for sure
@@richardlazarski4553 Yes. It is not designed as a forklift, and the gentle/slow movement of a real forklift just does not exist. Running at idle lets it come close.
Makes sense to go with a replaement engine over an expensive rebuild. Love that Kubota tractor. Kubota is my favorite.
Very honest you are a good person!
Great job, looking forward to your clips on pulling motor and re installing "new one", thank you for sharing, always very interesting.....
Best of swab luck and hope it goes smooth for you.
Really enjoy watching your videos keep them coming
Scott - on your Kubota notice there are two holes where the boom cylinders mount to the stanchions. The upper hole is for height and the lower hole is for power. Your tractor had the cylinders mounted in the holes for max height, not max lift power. I’d also recommend using a little more RPM although I understand you were trying to keep it low for slow movement.
I just noticed that you're over 100k. Congrats.
I hope you do a video on the swap... I wanna see that
I can never understand the people who "thumbs down" these vids, maybe they are other diesel mechanics lol or those who are jealous of the work he does ????? mystery to me
hope you can go in all the way with your forks when putting the new engine in. Make sure you have a smooth driving surface with no dips or big rocks in the way. If it feels like it's going to tip pull the trans and put it in later
Like the property posts but love the wrenching posts!
Metal canopys are cheap and do a good job you see them everywhere mine is 12 ft high 18 wide 20 long 1,800 dollars 10 years ago with setup
3000 lbs tractor capacity is likely with the bucket, with a load farther away and out on the forks capacity will likely be less. Love the videos thank you!
T C ?
There should be a load chart on the forks/tractor somewhere. Note that the load chart is rated conservative. Your not in trouble until the back end starts floating. At that point, add counterweight.
Great project Scott! This is going to interesting.
You may make less this time, but the future business you get as a result of honesty and efforts to save the customer money will bring you business to more than make up for it.
Oh this was the one with the loose flywheel. That's not the guy who had the down cyliders that visited with his family that you sent back home down a cyl was it.... thinking you were going to go to his shop this winter to rebuild if I remember right?
If you can get the owner to come in clean up in detail the engine bay take both radiators and get them redone new hoses you paint job on the engine man it’s gonna look beautiful
You can always tell what caliber of a mechanic that your working with in the repair of whatever your working on by how he troubleshoots and dissassembles what he’s working on. When he’s tearing things down, does he get in there and start ripping everything apart with no rhyme or reason and worry about picking up the nuts and bolts later or do they take a slow methodical/organized approach so they can inspect parts and find the actual cause of the problem or were they planning on just changing enough parts that it had to be fixed?
I’ll let you guys figure out if we have a real, hard to find (rare) mechanic here or do we have a typical parts changer? And what’s making the rare mechanic so rare is that the actually know how to troubleshoot and yes there is a right way and a wrong way.
Where did you learn about Detroits... What a great niche you've found!
best way to work on a bus motor / out of the bus on blocks
GOD I WISH YOU DID WORK IN NORTHERN CALIFORNIA!!!! I would hire you in a second!
Great work folks, looks like a nightmare job to me, only because I don't know crap about swapping engines on buses, Locomotives sure, buses, I'll leave that to you.😂🇺🇸✌️
Nice vid.,,,great project for early fall.
Well.....! That tractor unload was interesting...🤔!
Hope you get him off working well with all your magical power sorry i was just trying to be a smartass Scott again i meant you NO DISRESPECT bud i love your property purchase and wanna ride there i have a few 3 wheelers and then Tyler's skidplate for his Blaster i wasn't gonna just it away but sell it to him at a good deal like i got anyway best wishes
Don't forget to budget for the green paint.
Question is the replacement engine have an alternator or a generator? Correct me if I'm wrong but the regulator for the generator or alternator is mounted on the firewall. You as you know Scott the generator regulator won't work with an alternator. Just trying to avoid damaging a good generator/alternator.
Superb find on the replacement engine.
Cheers!
He knows he needs a voltage regulator. It was missing from the donor bus. Positive ground questions still need addressing also
Cool, I never seen a engine swap on bus.
Nice👍👍👍
hoping you pull the crank out of this so we can see the damages!
Good to see you working but love the old man 👴 I forgot his name Phil maby
Phil
If she's a 2 valve E motor , then swap for a 4 valve N Engine. Did that with a 4103. Made all the difference in the world
Are you going to bench run the new motor before you install it ?? Just to
Be sure ??
The 3,000 pound lift capacity isn't about the stress on the tractor, but rather the amount of weight that will tip the tractor.
It is what it will lift at full lift height. If the tractor isn’t ballasted properly it will tip earlier. Go watch Messicks channel about loader lift numbers.
New challenge in an upcoming episode - how to weld a cracked cylinder head. Probably featuring Keith Fenner.
I need a bumper sticker lol
Scott, Did you check the oil bath air filters when you looked over the engine a year ago?
Just curious if new owner dusted it, or if it's been sucking dirt for years.
I know you usually check the oil bath air filters whenever you check out a bus
I was only there for a few hours. It had way more serious issues than me checking the air filters. Kinda like checking someone for gingivitis in the ER before dealing with the gunshot wound they came in for. It was a running driving bus. I always check them prior to starting if they have been sitting for sure. Basic maintenance first on a serious diagnosis isn’t really practical. But yes they have been empty for years i suspect. Zero oily residue a charred bone dry interior.
Is there an aftermarked non oil bath air filters for Detroit's? I was the same way when I owned my auto repair since it was just me i could afford to make my customer happy with smaller bill then expected on some. Plus my labor was less per hour then any place in my town. Now my company switched (due to medical reasons) and all my work is done in my truck. Its nice to see all sorts of scenery tho.
Scott, i believe you have sufficiently test driven the kubota and each and every available attachment. Time for a product review? :)
this guy and his wife are dedicated so cool
Her we are with this 4104..........with the propped up engine door??
You da man Scott.
i take it the gentleman that delivered the new engine was the owner of this bus?
my gosh thats a big diesel engine!
yeah no. its not. wait til you see the 12v92. thats a lump.
That’s heavy, look at the tires.
Do you know where I might find the original greyhound metal emblems for the dash and the front of my 1955 4104? Thanks, love all the vids...
$2000? WOW! You can't get an engine for a CAR that cheap!
what happens to the old motor? Parts? Rebuild it later?
Scott u tube is at it agin i wound up with 12 adds
How were they positioned? I agree that is crazy excessive. One or two max before two during the 18 min video and one after if they choose. Kelly went to our live last week and it tried to show her an hour long commercial before connecting her to a live. The Artificial Intelligence isn’t very smart. I hope they pay me for all those commercials but some how i doubt it. Hopefully many were skipable ads. I have premium so i never see any ads on any videos.
I refuse to give Google any more money for premium, hopefully you won't add more ad's. Enjoy your content
@@BusGreaseMonkey
If i remember right at the start a start a standard long ad with six second must watch
Several of the six second must watch pair together with another long one with a six second near end spread fairly evenly through the whole video
How about a little air in those front tires?!
I would spend an hour and $10 in paint and sand the rust and dirt off the radiator and paint it.
You could drive the old one on into the ground, thus putting that many fewer miles on the new one. but why was the old one down a cylinder? was compression escaping through the cracks?
Did you see the cylinder walls in that cylinder? A couple videos ago??
@@BusGreaseMonkey No, but those are easily replaced aren't they? especially with a well used one to match the other 5.
@@BusGreaseMonkey I have now. Why didn't the rings remove that rust while driving to your land? Is the rust down inside pits? or did it form since arriving? where is the water coming from? Should I assume that much blowby will cause a failure to ignite even on the highway?
Is the old engine and trans salvageable? Maybe not fixable but is every piece on them trashed? Shame to lose that old engine if another 4104 comes through.
Questions: Do you paint and anti-rust when you have everything on the ground ????
So what will happen to the donor bus the new engine came from , do you know?
Parting it out
I have parts for sale I sold them the motor and parting out the bus
Letting oil bath filter run dry (REGARDLESS OF WHO DID IT!) Moronicus stupidius maximus triumphus.
Scott, Does any of the G.M.C. 6 cylinder engines manual's or do you know how many gallons per minute they draw in ? I don't think that it's a well kown thing.