Trinity and Paul's Hoax Dream
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- Опубликовано: 18 окт 2024
- Sheikh Ahmed Deedat (RA) dissected the Trinity into pieces to find the missing godhead and was not in the Bible any more. These Persons; The Father, The son and The Holy Ghost were taken out from the modern Bible versions by Christian Scholars.
Deedat the AK-47 killing falsehood
Muhammad Zailani Deedat fought against God... Why is the trinity wrong?
Duke - SWT Mate because it is three Gods don't gave me that 1 is 3
do you know mathematics
1 is not 3 use logic
1 could never be 3
@@somedude2746 past present and future is 3 but make 1. Don't say what God can and cannot be
Say: He is Allah, the One and Only;
Allah, the Eternal, Absolute;
He begetteth not, nor is He begotten;
And there is none like unto Him. ( Qur'an 112 )
@Mohibbur Rahman brother can u answer me this. Word begets comes from lower animal function of sex. Is there middle and upper animal function of sex as well. Why did Ahmed dedat say begotten means it comes from lower animal function of sex? To my knowledge begets means simple sexsual intercourse. Explain please if u know.
Shaheer brother the late champ Deedat May Allah place him in the highest place in Jannatualferdos.
Deedat meant that Allah be glory to him above having kids, He’s the Creator of everything in this Universe. When He will for something to exist He just says be and it is.
Because sex and breeding is a lower animal desire like loving to have kids, wealth, food ....etc and Allah far above these earthly desires. Hope it help.
Ohhhhhhhhhhh wallahi Deedat is a monster MashAllah May Allah grant him the highest place in Jannah
If he was still here today Christianity would have been done but he started this mission and Alhamdulilah we have people like Naik and Hijab etc who are continuing
DEEDAT- A name that no Christian will forget.
YOUR RIGHT THERE MATE ! peace
Holy Bible - John 3:16 that is a fallacy and fabrication to claim that God begets!. This begotten son words has been removed from your holy moly by Christian scholars and theologians.
John 3:16 "For God so loved the world, that he gave his only begotten Son, that whosoever believeth in him should not perish, but have everlasting life.”
www.answering-christianity.com/ac/sons.htm
Do you see how many sons of God???.
They wont, i dont think that any christian in a position of arguing about Christianity anymore, its dead and buried.
i wont be surprise of you follow a dead belief .
your scholar asked this question, the man who is debating mr deddat asked this question in the full lecture
if you are following the full lecture, you would have know what happend when they asked him about that verse.
shall i refere you to it, to get the medicine.
My friend, keep believing the church but you are not following Jesus PBUH.
the trinity is (DEEEEEEEEEEEEAD).
Jesus is God... Mr. Dieddat... never understood the dispensation of the power of God, how God deal with His creation from the begining till the End coming...
Deedat is amazing. May Allah bless you.
Nasrudin Abdi Deedat is amazingly wrong. Do you have any questions concerning the Trinity? Then don't go to Imams, but to us Christians and clear your doubts! Surah 10:94: "So if you are in doubt, [O Muhammad], about that which We have revealed to you, then ask those who have been reading the Scripture before you. The truth has certainly come to you from your Lord, so never be among the doubters." (Sahih International)
@@duke-swtmate4154 STUPID THAT DOES NOT MAKE ANY SCENE AT ALL THIS VERSE ACTUALLY MEANS THAT OH MUHAMMED IF U DONT BELIEVE THAT U R THE ONE WHO WILL SEND THE MESSAGE BY QURAN THEN ASK THE JEWS AND CHRISTAINS BEC HE IS MENTIONED IN YOUR BOOKS SO DONT MAKE YOURSELF U DONT KNOW!
READ YOUR FREACKING BIBLE WELL YOU BLIND FAITH
@duke-swtmate4154 when you try to rationalise trinity, you create more problems. The verse you quoted is talking about orthodox monotheistic christians, not you trinitarians that is polytheism
Ameen!!!
The name of Deedad is enough.
No Christians will forget the name of Deedad.
That’s true we will always remember him as the liar he was .
@keithgraham2610 Deedat drove Christian church leaders insane!!!. He spoke facts of the holy moly. The Bible is not holy scripture and when you read it make you spiritual rather make you sinner and horny especially when reading the incestuous cases and prostitute stories.
@@keithgraham2610He roasted every christian scholars he debated and now all you can do that like a coward bad mouth about him. He was very successful bcz he was defending the eternal truth and christians were trying to defend a false doctrine.
May Allah put Deedat in Jannah..ameen
Subhanallah..May Allah raise his ranks in the heaven.
My master❤. May Allah have mercy on your soul, dear Sheikh Ahmed Deedat. Wallahi, I benefit a lot from your videos. You are an eye opener.
May Allah Subhan wa Taallah Grant Janat ul firdaus Inshallah for the late Islamic Scholar and great Daa ee, Shaikh Ahmad Deedat ❤ Aameen!
Foooools ! they themselves don't know Trinity is it there in the Bible or not ? How can they preach other Christian.. about Trinity. ? And they call themselves as preachers. Shame on u.
Mohd Saber Hussain l hahahaha they jus kill me with laugh lol
Mohd Saber Hussain 1 John 5:7: "For there are three that bear record in heaven, the Father, the Word, and the Holy Ghost: and these three are one."
Be have a patience more then you teach good to others, check first whether you pay attention what i would tell you about first the Spirit of God.. Spirit of God do this all I given below down the references of context . [Isaiah:26:9][Isaiah:31:3][Isaiah:32:15][Isaiah:38:16]Isaiah:40:13][Isaiah:42:5][Isaiah:44:3]
Mohd Saber Hussain you don't know nothing,the Bible was written by Holy Spirit, Holy Spirit live in one person who praying and keep fast to be close by God, you don't know what is Holy Spirit...
Queen Hadassa hahahaha humm new teaching i never had that b4, who told u that jesus or where it is in the bible...pliz the prove..
hahaha they even dont about their bible, they are still looking at the verse.
hofra moh There are 26 Arabic Qurans, which makes the Quran man's and not God's word out of an Islamic perspective. Please do some research about the 69 weeks of years in the book if Daniel. Sir Robert Anderson has done some great calculations on that and it confirms the authenticity of the Bible!
@ Duke. Quran has been memorized by millions it cannot be changed even if you print Quran with some changes.
THE BIBLE IS TRUTH FOREVER
hofra moh because you muslims study the koran by heart without understanding what it means. You need a scholar to interpret it for you. The bible us written in a very simple way and Jesus Christ spoke in parabols so the simple mind can understand.
@@duke-swtmate4154 how far will u dumb people go on lying
Your bible has so many version and gospel of Luke, John, Mark and on and on and new testament and old testament (and both are different) with all that how do u prove its not corrupted?
If your bible is so true why were your pastors not able prove deedat wrong? All u christian could do was call him by names and say false, false, false but were u all able to prove him wrong? First prove it! Already the answer that Quran is not corrupted is given by many Muslim scholars, even Ahmed deedat
The Holy Spirit that was sent to enlighten or to give The Almighty's word to every selected messenger or prophet of god was Angel Gabriel. Every Angel was created for specific purposes just like the Angel of Death
Mashallah
Allah is the Most Merciful, because He gives us as men and women freedom of will. Anybody that can hear and understand Ahmed Deedat will know the truth. Whatever your religion is doesn't matter.. the truth is all that MATTERS, Allah wants us 2 obtain Jannah [Heaven]. But our stubbornness as free willed humans will fill the Flames 🔥 of Hell because some will follow their traditions of Christianity. Nobody EVER born will outdo what Ahmed Deedat teaches us in his lectures.
"Their knowledge of the Hereafter amounts to ignorance. In fact, they are in doubt about it. In truth, they are ˹totally˺ blind to it."Quran
So the conclusion is that the soul or spirit given to the unborn child existed in heaven, even before God created man
I think Deedat didn't know that the
doctrine of the Trinity was never taught in the Bible, but it is a revelation!
God of the Bible is Omnipresent, meaning God not only is everywhere but can
also travel to the past and the future. God in heaven is outside of time and is
not bound by time and space. Our universe, however, is in a loop of time
(Ecclesiastes 1:9). Human logic, time and space are the reason why Trinity is
revealed in the Bible. If I am almighty god who created the universe, walked
the earth with Adam, Abraham, Jacob, Moses…etc for 7000 years, and not being
bound by time and space, then I can travel back 4000 years to the past I will
see my past self. And likewise, if I travel 4000 years into the future I will
see my future self since I am eternal. This means there are three of me,
past+present+future! We three are all equal. So does that mean that the past me
and the future me whom I met isn't me? I can speak to myself! However, I will
surely respect the past me. Because without the past me there will be no present
and future me in time and space. Maybe that's why Jesus said 'the Father is
greater than I' (John 14:28). Jesus did travel through time, pass and future! Jesus
said that He was there before Abraham was born (John 8:58), (Jesus was the one
who walked in the garden of Eden (Genesis 3:8), Jesus appeared as Melchizedek
(Genesis 14 & Hebrews 7), Jesus appeared to Hagar (Genesis 16), Jesus
appeared to Abraham and Sarah (Genesis 18), Jesus wrestled with Jacob (Genesis
32:30 & Hosea 12:4), Jesus walked pass Moses while covering Moses’ eyes (Exodus
33), Jesus was the fourth man standing in the furnace (Daniel 3:25), Jesus
spoke from heaven when only God can do that (Acts 9:5), Jesus seated on the
throne (Revelation 20, 21 & Isaiah 6:1)…and more! In Christianity, Father
is the beginning or source (God in Spirit form in the past), Jesus is the Son
(God became man), and the Holy Spirit (God in Spirit form in the future). Because
God saw the future of humanity ending in hell due to all have sinned (Romans
3:23) and those whose name not written in the book of life are thrown to the
lake of fire (Revelations 20), hence the Trinity met back in the very beginning
(Genesis 1:26) to create Adam and agreed to save mankind through the death of Jesus.
The wages of sin is death (Romans 6:23) and the only payment for our sin is the
shedding of blood and death (Leviticus 17:11 and Hebrews 9:22). But because God
so love the world (John 3:16), He provided a sacrificial lamb once and for all
(Hebrews 5,7,9 &10). Only God can pay that ransom, but since God is spirit (John
4:24) and is eternal He can't bleed and die. So in order to make that sacrifice
possible God became man (Isaiah 9:6) in the human form of Jesus Christ
(immortal). Jesus is the sacrificial lamb that will take away the sins of the
world forever (John 1:29 & Revelations 13:8). While Jesus is now seated in
heaven's throne, He already sent the Holy Spirit (John 14,15 &16) to be our
new helper, comforter and guide today and the future! Jesus is God Almighty!
Amen
alahe yarhamu
Many christian will angry... because they know that deedat was right
No chance of anger. Just sad that Islam has deceived so many people.
@keithgraham2610 Islam is the truth and no one deceived but those who embrace Islam convinced that it’s the Truth. Islam is the way of life if you believe it and practice it you will leads happy life unlike Christianity which has no thing apart from the name after Jesus but you Christians indulge yourself in all the sinful behavior as fornication, stealing, killing, drugs and alcohol, consume interests. Basically Christianity stand for nothing.
@@superfly9420 Well no, the Bible does not encourage us to do those things. Even if people who call themselves Christians do that, it has nothing to do with what the faith teaches. Your argument is that Islam leads to a happy life. Not only am I pretty happy as a Christian, but this is not an indicator of truth. We can both agree it is more of a product of following the truth.
@@aidanimate Islam is the belief of all the prophets including Jesus. Paul and the pagan Romans corrupted the teaching of Jesus. Christianity has no spiritual, disciplines or moral teaching apart from believing that Jesus died for your sins. It doesn’t make any sense. It’s like you commit the crime and another innocent person pay for your crime!!!!.
@@superfly9420 No this is just outright wrong.
The Quran claims that Allah made it appear as if Jesus was crucified. This means that HE is the one who created Christianity. Why would your God purposely create a false religion to leads others astray?
Secondly, it is an extremely BOLD claim to say that Christianity has no disciplines and moral teachings. I will give you a chance to change your stance before I destroy your point.
Thirdly, the whole point of the Christian message is that God sacrificed himself for us, out of the immense love he had. None of us Christians deserve it, yet Jesus laid down his life for us. There is no way any mere human could get to heaven if God's standard is perfection.
Wow !! Amazing 😯 islam is a beautiful religion!! All respect for islam❤
Islam is a religion of violence,and lies. May you find peace and truth with Jesus
trinity.. is an illogical thing like salt tastes sweet, or 2+2=8..//
it is nothing but a mental torture..// and a lie too..
If people take the words.. father and son in the Bible.. as a real father or son, then there should be: “three” Separate entities..!! at one time…
And if they take father and son like a Professor/teacher.. and the student.. then there should be "two” separate entities..!! at one time…
"Separate" “entities” at one time.. in any of the case..!!
For explanation..:
There are three people, Muzamil, Umer and Idrees..
Now, Umer is father, just because he has a “separate” entity Idrees..!!
And Umer is son just because there's a "separate" entity Muzamil...
“3” separate entities at one time..!!
Only then someone can be called a father or a son...
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In 2nd case, if you take father and son.. as a Professor/teacher, and the student..!!
Then at one time, there are two separate entities...
Only then.. a teacher can be called a father.. And the student can be called a son..!!!
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And also.. what's this holy spirit is..?? Everyone has a spirit.. people had added the word holy with it..// by theirselves..//
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So there is nothing like trinity..!! only a misconception for nothing..!!!
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People, Allah almighty used to say his All Prophets son.. Allah almighty called Adam (Pbuh) his son, Jesus (Pbuh) son, just like a teacher, or an elder can say to any unknown person, son...
People, Allah Almighty is clearly saying in the Quran, that He begets not, and neither is He begotten.. Jesus (Pbuh) was just a "human being"... All Prophets of Allah Almighty were just human beings...
You can say to your scholars that It’s not possible.. Only when there’re separate entities at the same time, only then a person can be Either a son or the father.. that’s it..!!..
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And also.. if there’re verses like..: I and the father are one.. then the thing is that..:
And is a conjunction which coordinates two Separate entities/nouns/ pronouns: having totally different attributes..
like Mohsin and Waqas are playing cricket.. (two nouns, two totally different entities..)
He and I go to the college together.. (two pronouns, totally different entities..)
days and nights (two different nouns/entities)
truth and false (two separate nouns/entities)
etcetera..!!..
People, always remember.. an illogical thing is like salt tastes sweet, or like 2+2=8.. or when we have our hand in water, it feels totally dry..!!/// that’s why.. an illogical thing can never ever be true..!!
thank you..!!
In Judaism and Christianity, the following five claims are made: (1) He who is eternally un-created is God. (2) The eternally un-created is the “Father” of all creations. (3) The Father of all creations did not create Himself. (4) The Father of all creations did not create His Word. (5) The Father of all creations did not create His Spirit.
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Therefore; there are three who are eternally un-created: (1) God, (2) Word of God, and (3) Spirit of God. But God is different from His Word; and God is also different from His Spirit. In order to maintain and to remain true to the formula of monotheism, Judaism and Christianity also hold true to the following claim: “The three who are eternally un-created (God, His Word, and His Spirit) are also eternally joined together as one and the same God.” This claim is known in Christianity as the “Trinity” - The Blessed Three-in-One: (1) The Father, (2) The Word of the Father, and (3) The Spirit of the Father.
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Islam sees it differently. Islam accuses Judaism and Christianity of “Shirk” - the un-forgivable sin of joining partners such as the joining of “God’s Word” to God, and the joining of “God’s Spirit” to God. Thus, Islam introduced the “Tawhid” - the “Oneness of Allah” which eternally separates partnerships from Allah - partnerships such as the joining of Allah to his words, and the joining of Allah to his spirit.
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Both the Bible and the Quran speak about Baal - the three-foot stone god (idol) of the Canaanites. Baal had words which his worshippers obeyed. Baal’s words demanded infant sacrifices. But Baal could not speak his own words; because Baal’s words are eternally separated from Baal. So, too, are the powers of Baal. Baal could not exercise his powers, because they (Baal’s powers) are eternally separated from Baal.
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There are many similarities between Allah and Baal. Both Allah and Baal are each “one and only” in the sense that there are no other gods known to mankind or in existence who bear the name “Allah” or “Baal”; and neither one of them (Allah or Baal) “begets”, nor is “begotten” - because a stone (or a moon) which is lifeless and un-spirited cannot beget, nor can be begotten. Not only are both Allah and Baal’s words and spirits eternally separated from them, but there are no miracles (signs and wonders) recorded in their names. When challenged by the Hebrew Prophet, Elijah, at Mount Carmel, Baal could not perform miracles for his 400 prophets. [See Bible: 1st Kings 18:20-40.] Allah did not accompany (escort) his prophet, Muhammed, with miracles. Interestingly, when a god is eternally separated from his words and from his powers, he is both dumb (speechless) and impotent (powerless) even though his worshippers may (or may not) attribute to him words and powers.
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By accusing Jews and Christians of “Shirk” - the joining of God to His Word and God to His Spirit as one and the same God, Muslims have risen up Baal, the speechless and powerless stone idol of the Canaanites, from extinction and have given him a new name - the name “Allah”.
ChristAboveAll Johnson Maaan....it doesn’t matter how long is ur comment to explain Trinity. Trinity simply unexplainable!.
The more you explain it, the worse it gets.
You try to convince naive people that the father, the son and the Holy Ghost is the same as the body, soul and mind!!!. You miserably failed.
Trinity is not a composite as an egg; shell, white and yellow or water; liquid, ice and vapor or watermelon; skin, red and seeds. Or an atom; proton, electron and neutron!!!!.
Trinity is 3 person. How can they be one???.
@@superfly9420
From the beginning of creation, all peoples, all tribes, and all nations have understood the word “one” in terms of both “singleness” and “unity”. Islam created its own problem by dismissing the word “unity” from its understanding and definition of the word one. But the Quran cannot accept that.
In Quran 38:71, Allah says, “I am about to create man from clay.” In Quran 15:26, Allah says, “…We created man out of clay.”
You talked about the water molecule. You mentioned its two elements: (1) Hydrogen and (2) Oxygen, or H2O. Here is your question about the trinity: “How can three persons be one?” The answer to your question is this: “Three persons cannot equal one person; but three Persons can equal one God, because within the oneness (unity) of one God, there are three Persons: (1) Father, (2) Word of God, and (3) Spirit of God.” In the same way two elements cannot equal one element; but two elements can equal one water molecule, because within the oneness (unity) of one water molecule, there are two elements - Hydrogen and Oxygen.
You talked about the atom. You mentioned its three sub-atomic particles: (1) protons, (2) neutrons, and (3) electrons. Here is your question about the trinity: “How can three persons be one?” The answer to your question is this: “Three persons cannot equal one person; but three Persons can equal one God, because within the oneness (unity) of one God, there are three Persons: (1) Father, (2) Word of God, and (3) Spirit of God.” In the say way three sub-atomic particles cannot equal one sub-atomic particle. But three sub-atomic particles can equal one atom, because within the oneness (unity) of one atom, there are three sub-atomic particles: (1) protons, (2) neutrons, and (3) electrons.
In Islam, the following two opposing statements are true: (1) Muhammed, the Prophet of Allah, is buried in the Kaaba, and has not moved for over 1400 years. (2) Muhammed, the Prophet of Allah, is not in the Kaaba, but he is in Allah’s paradise with 72 virgins. How can these two opposing statements be accepted in Islam? - Because the word “one” has two meanings: (1) Singleness and (2) Unity. The Science of Natural Laws states, “Whatever is ‘one’ is a unity of many different natures or components (things).”
In one instance, the water says to the paper, “I will make you wet.” The water is correct, because the water has the ability to make the paper wet. In another instance, the water says to the paper, “We will make you wet.” The water also is correct, because within the oneness (unity) of the water, there are two elements (Hydrogen and Oxygen) that must unite and work together to make the paper wet. The water says, “We” as a plural of respect for both the Hydrogen and the Oxygen.
In Quran 38:71, Allah says, “I am about to create man from clay.” In Quran 15:26, Allah says, “…We created man out of clay.”
The Queen says, “We” as an expression of respect. In her esteem position as the “Ruler of England”, the Queen is also the “Head of the Church of England”. As the “Head of the Church of England”, the Queen is considered the “Ambassador for God on earth” in terms of “rulership”. God rules in the heavens over the affairs of men; and the Queen rules on earth over the affairs of men. Therefore; the Queen says, “We” to mean “God and I”. The Queen’s “We” is an expression of respect she attributes to God who she represents on earth in terms of rulership.
In Quran 112, Allah is one - only one. Nothing - absolutely nothing is joined (connected) unto Allah. If Allah is one, and nothing is joined (connected) to Allah, why does Allah say, “We created man out of clay?”
And that is the end. I will never again hear from you.
ChristAboveAll Johnson C’on man stop lying to urself. Ur Christian apologetics could not explain the Trinity and simply not hey cal-lit mystery!.
Christianity is a BIG HOAX in human history according to Christian preachers to be saved you have to put ur brain in a freezer and believe in the following blindly;
1. God is one but not one, but three in one, but not three!.
"This illogical Doctrine concept isn't found in the Bible but must be forced through intellectual gymnastics."
2. God became his own son but remained as the father while being the son.
3. God committed suicide by allowing ordinary humans to brutalize him n kill him mercilessly.
4. God died, but did not die. He died but he's now alive!.
5. God was sacrificed for the sake of the sinners but the sacrifice came back n is now with God as God along with God!!!.
John 20:17 Jesus said to her, “Do not cling to Me, for I have not yet ascended to My Father; but go to My brethren and say to them, ‘I am ascending to My Father and your Father, and to My God and your God.’”
Mathew 26:39 He went a little farther and fell on His face, and prayed, saying, “O My Father, if it is possible, let this cup pass from Me; nevertheless, not as I will, but as You will.”
Mathew24:36 “But of that day and hour no one knows, not even the angels of heaven,[a] but My Father only.
John 17:3 And this is eternal life, that they may know You, the only true God, and Jesus Christ whom You have sent.
John 5:30 I can of Myself do nothing. As I hear, I judge; and My judgment is righteous, because I do not seek My own will but the will of the Father who sent Me.
Mark 11:12 Now the next day, when they had come out from Bethany, He was hungry. 13 And seeing from afar a fig tree having leaves, He went to see if perhaps He would find something on it. When He came to it, He found nothing but leaves, for it was not the season for figs. 14 In response Jesus said to it, “Let no one eat fruit from you ever again.”
Mathew 27: 46 And about the ninth hour Jesus cried out with a loud voice, saying, “Eli, Eli, lama sabachthani?” that is, “My God, My God, why have You forsaken Me?”[a]
Mark 15:34 And at the ninth hour Jesus cried out with a loud voice, saying, “Eloi, Eloi, lama sabachthani?” which is translated, “My God, My God, why have You forsaken Me?”[a]
When God wills for something to happen. He just says be and it is. This what is meant by the word of God. He says to Mary u gonna have a son and she was rattled how come when no man touch me. The archangel Gabriel ( the Holy Spirit) told her that God says so and it was.
So it seems that 1/3 of ur TRIPLE -3 was ignorant and totally dependent on his daddy!!!.
@@superfly9420 You wrote: “When God wills for something to happen. He just says be and it is. This what is meant by the word of God. He says to Mary u gonna have a son and she was rattled how come when no man touch me. The archangel Gabriel ( the Holy Spirit) told her that God says so and it was. So it seems that 1/3 of ur TRIPLE -3 was ignorant and totally dependent on his daddy!!!.”
In Islam, you say the word of Allah is embedded in a book - the Quran. In Christianity, we say the “Word of God” is embedded in a Man - Jesus Christ. John 1:14 reads, “The Word became flesh and dwelt among us, and we beheld His Glory, the Glory as the only begotten Son of the Father, full of grace and full of truth.”
You also wrote: “So it seems that 1/3 of ur TRIPLE -3 was ignorant and totally dependent on his daddy!!!.”
Jesus, the Word of God, throughout His existence, is depended on His Father. The Quran, the word of Allah, throughout its existence, is depended on Allah. At least that is what we are led to believe - that the Quran is the word of Allah who protects it from corruption. But Allah seems to suggest something that is very disturbing. He said that the Quran is not his word, but the word of an honorable messenger who stands before the throne of his lord.
In Quran 81: 19-21, Allah says, “Verily this (Quran) is the word of a most honorable messenger, endured with power, and with rank before the Lord of the throne.”
You talked about the “archangel Gabriel”. He is an honorable messenger, endured with power, and with rank before the Lord of the throne. According to Islam, Muhammed, too, is an honorable messenger. Question: Which of these two honorable messengers (Archangel Gabriel or Muhammed) is Allah speaking of when he says, “Verily this (Quran) is the word of a most honorable messenger, endured with power, who stands before the throne of his lord?”
@@superfly9420: I appreciate your interest in the trinity. Thank you. You might also like this: 12 similarities between God and the United States Government:
(1) God is a Spirit - cannot be seen or touched. The U.S. Government is a spirit - cannot be seen or touched.
(2) We read about God on papers - the Bible. We read about the U.S. Government on papers - the United States Constitution.
(3) God not only create, He also destroys. The U.S. Government not only create, it also destroys.
(4) God makes Laws to govern His people. The U.S. Government makes Laws to govern its people.
(5) God has the powers to forgive and to restore His enemies. The U.S. Government has the powers to forgive and to restore its enemies.
(6) God has the powers to work His wills in and through the lives of people. The U.S. Government has the powers to work its wills in and through the lives of people.
(7) God is a “Trinity”, because within the ‘Oneness of God’ there are three different Natures: (1) Father, (2) Word of God, and (3) Spirit of God. The U.S. Government is a “Trinity”, because within the ‘Oneness of the U.S. Government’ there are three different natures: (1) Executive Branch of Government, (2) Legislature Branch of Government, and (3) Judicial Branch of Government.
(8) The word “Trinity” is not mentioned in the Bible, but the Bible revealed God as a “trinity” in whose ‘oneness’ the three different Natures of God are co-existing and are co-equal. The word “Trinity” is not mentioned in the United States Constitution, but the United States Constitution revealed the U.S. Government as a “trinity” in whose ‘oneness’ the three different natures of the U.S. Government are co-existing and are co-equal.
(9) Each one of the three different Natures of God is God, Himself. Examples: (1) God’s Nature called “Father” is God, Himself; (2) God’s Nature called “Word of God” is God, Himself; and (3) God’s Nature called “Spirit of God” is God, Himself. Each one of the three different natures of the U.S. Government is the U.S. Government, itself. Examples: (1) The U.S. Government’s nature called “Executive Branch of Government” is the U.S. Government, itself; (2) the U.S. Government’s nature called “Legislature Branch of Government” is the U.S. Government, itself; (3) the U.S. Government’s nature called “Judicial Branch of Government” is the U.S. Government, itself.
(10) God took one of His three Natures called “Word of God”, clothed or covered Him in human skin (Jesus), and sent Him into the world to save lives. The U.S. Government took one of its three natures called “Executive Branch of Government”, clothed or covered it in human skin (soldiers/militaries/CIA/ambassadors), and sent them into the world (Iraq, Syria, Afghanistan) to save lives.
(11) God’s Nature called “Word of God” (operating inside human skin - Jesus) correctly said, “I am in my Father and my Father is in me. I and my Father are one. If you have seen me, you have seen my Father.” The U.S. Government’s nature called “Executive Branch” (operating inside human skin - soldiers/militaries/CIA/ambassadors) may correctly say, “I am in the U.S. Government and the U.S. Government is in me. I and the U.S. Government are one. If you have seen me, you have seen the U.S. Government.”
(12) Deuteronomy 6:4 reads, “Hear O Israel, the LORD, our God is one LORD.” But God is a Trinity. Deuteronomy 6:4 could also be read, “Hear O American people, the government, our U.S. Government is one government.” But the U.S. Government is a trinity.
One of the many major differences between God and the U.S. Government is this: God is perfect and holy; and the U.S. Government is imperfect and unholy. But however, it is seriously amazing to see how Christians (original founders) of the United States of America formed a government that operates almost exactly as their God. Examples: It is the Father who says, “Thou shall not steal.” It is the Holy Spirit who reminds you that you have stolen; and you have broken God’s Law. It is the Son (Word of God) who judges you - punishes you or sets you free. Similarly, it is the U.S. Legislature Branch (Sanitors, Representatives) who says, “Do not drive your car over the recommended speed limit.” It is the U.S. Executive Branch (police) who reminds you that you have driven over the speed limit; and you have broken U.S. Law. It is the U.S. Judicial Branch (courts) that judges you - punishes you or sets you free.
Now what he has quoted mostly scholars didn't noted what it meant when the epistle of john is saying for ? Even our scholars can't explanation that. I John:5: 7-8, said, 7 For there are three who bear witness in heaven: the Father, the Word, and the Holy Spirit; and these three in one. 8 And there are three that bear witness on earth; the Spirit, the water, and the blood : and these three agree as one. What it mean the scripture is going to say about them for us? John gone to say us as the Father, the Word, and the Holy Spirit are there in one bear witness in the Heaven same like has the witness the Holy Spirit which we have indwelled in us by God, and the water which the romans soldeirs at the cross pierced to his side and immediately had come out from, those water has given the witness to us in, and the blood that always run into us with, has give the witness as three in one on earth for Jesus very soon.
That awkward moment when a muslim teaches christians about thier god
He only has lies to teach us and we never listen to them. Jesus is the way, the truth and the life.
Deedat is a funniest 😂😂 islamic scholar
nice Muslim on steroids mashallah
Paul was a righteous man. Jesus Christ is God ✝
@@aidanimate Paul wasn’t righteous and Jesus was a prophet in your Bible.
@@superfly9420 Yes, Paul used to kill Christians, however he was saved. I would consider him pretty righteous in the end. Jesus is God in the Bible. Do claim that the Bible is corrupted, or just the injeel? If the entire Bible is corrupted, why do you still quote it, expecting it to agree with your viewpoint?
Luke 4:8 { Jesus said worship only God } And Jesus answered and said unto him, Get thee behind me, Satan: for it is written, Thou shalt worship the Lord thy God and him only shalt thou serve. {Deut, 6:13 God said worship only God}. Hebrews 1:8 { God calls Jesus God }But unto the Son he {God} saith, Thy throne, O God, is for ever and ever : a scepter of righteousness is the scepter of thy kingdom.
That does NOT make Jesus christ(PBUH) a god At All And HE NEVER was a god.
You have misunderstood the verses. Look, what God said to Moses in Exodus 7:1 and Exodus 4:16 in the following verses.
Exodus 7:1 (nkjv):
So the LORD said to Moses: “See, I have made you as God to Pharaoh,..”
Exodus 4:16 (nkjv):
So he shall be your spokesman to the people. And he himself shall be as a mouth for you, and you shall be to him as God.
Now look, what God said about Jewish Judges in Psalm 82:6 in the following verses.
Psalm 82:6 (NIV):
“I said, ‘You are “gods”; you are all sons of the Most High.’”
Now look, what God said to David in the Psalm of David 45:6-7 in the following verses.
Psalm 45:6-7 (NIV):
6 Your throne, O God (David), will last for ever and ever; a scepter of justice will be the scepter of your kingdom.
7 You love righteousness and hate wickedness; therefore God (David), your God (Almighty God), has set you above your companions by anointing you with the oil of joy.
So in the bible when almighty God called someone “God” that does not make them real almighty God. In Psalm 45:6-7, almighty God called David as God. Here in Psalm 45:7, you can see that almighty God will anoint David with the oil of joy. So from the above verses, you can understand that the almighty God will not anoint another God. Almighty God does not need to be anointed. Almighty God will only anoint David with the oil of joy.
Now again, if you want to know more about whose throne it was in Psalm 45:6, then read Luke 1:32.
Luke 1:32 (NIV):
… The Lord God will give him (Jesus) the throne of his father David,…
So at first, the throne is actually given to David by God which is mentioned in the old testament in Psalm 45:6. Then later on, God will give the same throne of David to Jesus which is mentioned in Luke 1:32.
Now look at Hebrews 1:8-9 (NIV):
8 But about the Son he says,
“Your throne, O God, will last for ever and ever; a scepter of justice will be the scepter of your kingdom.
9 You have loved righteousness and hated wickedness; therefore God, your God, has set you above your companions by anointing you with the oil of joy.”
We know that Paul was a liar and self appointed false apostle. Look, Paul copied the exact same verses from Psalm 45:6-7 to Hebrews 1:8-9. Here, in Psalm 45:6-7, God was talking about David. But Paul falsely said that God was talking about Jesus instead of David using exact same verses of Psalm 45:6-7 in Hebrews 1:8-9.
the adress of the Video is wrong as Paul never mentioned Trinity or taught it he even was clear that Father is the God of Lord Jesus christ ephesians 1:17.
I don't know why this Man is so obsessed with the Bible I hope this man had no negatively during his growing days with Christianity. Not even those from the middle East where Islam began has so much hatred for Christianity 😀😀😀
Don’t worry he wasn’t Christian to be molested by ur creepy preachers.
@@superfly9420 why do everything lead to sex and molestation with you guys what I meant was a fight or punishment by Christian teacher in his childhood which touched him too hard don't be horny everytime with everything
Paoboy Singson Oh......are u telling me that Christians righteous and don’t think about sex at all. Many Christians their brains located between their legs.
Are u denying the sexual abuse committed by the church???.
@@superfly9420 i got you forget it is not winning us nothing goodbye
Paoboy Singson sorry, I didn’t mean to offend you. Anyway you have a good day too.
1st John 5:7 correlate Revelation' 16:19+ 14:10 to Roman's 1
Period!
The rest of it is hoax for the churches.
John 20:28 { Thomas calls Jesus God }
And Thomas answered and said unto him, My Lord and my God.{ o Kurios mou kai o Theos mou } the definite article. Does Jesus correct Thomas? No, he calls him blessed. Ps 73:25-26
Allahu Akbar
May Allah grant him Paradise.
Johannine comma....
Err, Mr. Deedat, we believe that the Father, the Son and the Holy Ghost are three distinct persons, but they are one in essence. I am human, my mother is human, and my father is human. We are one family. I belong to the family, my mother as well, and my father, too. But we are three distinct persons, but we are one family in essence.
Deedat misrepresented the doctrine of the trinity: We don't believe that Father, Son, and the Holy Ghost are one person. I've showed you that God can be triune by taking the family as an example. If you believe that God cannot be triune, then I suppose that you can not logically be part of your family either.
so god had a father, had a mother , had a son. but noooooo ... god is one ...
Kunglaw Ady Is God incapable of adding a human nature to His divine nature?
Kunglaw Ady You have a spirit, a soul and a body. They are one in essence, but three in person: Your soul is not your spirit, your spirit not your body, and your body not your soul. We are images of the Triune God!
haha...so who do v ask for help or worship? the essence?
Deedat🥰
Confused
@keithgraham2610 sure confused, because he can’t digest that the father, son and Holy Spirit are ONE!!!.
The problem with Christianity is that 1+1+1=3 and not 1.
The Christians in the comments section who clearly don’t understand what Sheikh is saying, simply are uneducated in the English language.
Instead of understanding English, what they do is pull verses from the Bible and still barely make any sense and create their own narrative which has absolutely no logic to the human mind 🤣🤦🏽♂️
رحمة الله عليك يا فارس الدعوة
Anwar Radawy Ameen and Jazakum Allah Khyr brother.
This deluded man that said Mohamed is the Holy Spirit. Sir if you are not born again, you can only rant about what you have not experienced.
@chibuzman what is this experience that you went through?. Man stop worshipping idols. Christianity deeply rooted in ancient pagan myths from Dionysus, Methra, Krishna, Horus to Osiris triple3 godhead.
Christianity has no guidance, spirituality or discipline just believe Jesus died for your sins and evil acts. Therefore sin as you want. Woke up Christianity dead and don’t be delusional no one will bear the burden of another and your Bible say so too.
@@superfly9420 my experience is that once I was a sinner, far from God, can do anything my human desire want but accepting Jesus as my Lord and Savior He changed me and draw m e close to God and away from sin that I do what God want me to do and not what my human desires want. The life I now live in the flesh, I live by faith in the Son of God who loved me and died for me.
@@superfly9420 idols are the things your heart crave for apart from God and you can only know God through Jesus Christ. There is no other way.
@@chibuzman man Jesus was a prophet as many prophets before him. He delivered a message to the crooked Jews not for any other nation, you have to read your Bible when Jesus said that he came only for the last sheep of Israel. You’re considered a gentile. Jesus ordered his disciples to go to ““Go nowhere among the Gentiles and enter no town of the Samaritan's, but go rather to the lost sheep of the house of Israel.” So basically you’re a dirty gentle!and Jesus has nothing to do with you. You’re following Paul the fake Jesus follower who concocted Jesus teaching aided by the pagan Romans.
@@chibuzman come on man Jesus couldn’t save himself if he was really killed as the Jews claimed. He was praying in the garden before the assumed crucifixion as Muslims pray. How could someone who couldn’t save himself be able to save any sinner???. Have you ever seen a homeless individual offered a shelter for another homeless?.
Ok,,. If Christians believe in one God . We accept , if they call God by any of given word or names, like Elohim, Yahew, Allah ,or God.otherwise wd u Christians accept us if we say. Elohim or God instead of saying Allah. Then we r ready to say Elohim or God,, or even Yahew if u accept we too pray the same one & only God which u pray. .
Mohd Saber Hussain: Christians don't give two hoots to the opinion of Muslims. Christians consider themselves far superior to Muslims and even the Quran admits it in Surah 3:55" The followers of Jesus will be superior till the Day of Resurrection".
Every child before born is physically formed and God puts a spirit or soul into the body to give it life.
+adenaan Wuran 7:172 وَإِذْ أَخَذَ رَبُّكَ مِن بَنِي آدَمَ مِن ظُهُورِهِمْ ذُرِّيَّتَهُمْ وَأَشْهَدَهُمْ عَلَىٰ أَنفُسِهِمْ أَلَسْتُ بِرَبِّكُمْ قَالُوا بَلَىٰ شَهِدْنَا أَن تَقُولُوا يَوْمَ الْقِيَامَةِ إِنَّا كُنَّا عَنْ هَٰذَا غَافِلِينَ
And when your Lord brought forth from the children of Adam, from their backs, their descendants, and made them bear witness against their own souls: Am I not your Lord? They said: Yes! we bear witness. Lest you should say on the day of resurrection: Surely we were heedless of this.
Hebrews 1:6 { God tells the angels to worship Jesus }
And again, when he bringeth in the first begotten into the world he {God} saith, And let all the angels of God worship him.
Psalm 45:6 { This statement is used to discribe God }
Thy throne, O God,is for ever and ever: the scepter of thy kingdom is a right scepter.
The word begotten has been THROWN OUT! Why won't you understand?
Deedat God bless him
is that english🤣🤣
you are mistaken..This is exactly what I heard the other night. Jesus told me that "Humans got the trinity all wrong." He gave me the understanding that the Trinity doctrine that there are three ENTITIES in one God is incorrect. There is God, His Word, His Spirit. God sent Jesus to us as the WORD made flesh. Jesus told us he would not leave us orphans and God's Spirit was sent to us. Ultimately, not three entities, just our Father giving us his WORD as the lamb of God and much more, and his Spirit to comfort and guide us. So simple yet religion and it's scholars cannot figure it out. It takes God to make something clear to us..
Sarah R I don't think u heard what he said maybe your ears are clogged use a Q-tip
God bless you. God will talk to you too.
(Inshallah)Godwilling sister may he guide you
Lil_Blue 619 He does through the Holy Spirit in me. He guides, comforts and has a relationship with me Amen!
+Sarah R Are you a Unitarian?
He has made blasphemy on the nature of God that’s why Mr deedat died in terrible sufferings. Don’t talk about what you do not known
2P PRODUCTIONS LOL...who died terrible death Jesus or Deedat?.
So you believe jesus died and resurrected @@superfly9420
@@axelf-crazyfrog4048 lol
How do you explain the miracles of Jesus or his resurrection? Tell us one miracle Mohamed worked to prove he was god.just one miracle am asking for.
Lloyd Hamilton Muslims don't claim that Muhammad was god, but you Christians claimed that Jesus was god n sometimes the son.
Christians you have to make up ur mind ;
Was Jesus god or son of God?
Ur bible said God can not be a man nor a man can be god.
superfly9420 you will never understand the things of god because you are not one of is. You can be a son and a father at the same time but God the creator of all things can be God and become a son just to save us and show us the way, you will never understand heavenly things until you repent of your sins and accept Jesus Christ as your personal savour.
superfly9420 one miracles Mohamed performed to show he was sent by god just one am asking for please am waiting, all that chatting ever learning and never came to knowledge of the truth.
Lloyd Hamilton prophet Muhammad did more than 300 miracles
This link has some of his miracles
www.whyislam.org/on-faith/miracles-of-prophet-muhammad/
But Muslims unlike Christians bragging about Jesus miracles.
The most important miracle of the prophet Muhammad is the QURAN, Quran is the living miracle of all time.
BTW Satan can perform miracles too.
superfly9420 people can write anything and you believe Mohamed never worked one miracles in his life but corrupted the word of god (Koran) the miracles the Jesus did was infallible am just saying why do you allow someone to corrupt you from the truth to serve deception. My Jesus gave his life for me ,your Mohamed commands you to kill unbelievers unless he or she repents . Jesus told us to love our enemies and pray for those who persecute us .Big difference my friend big difference concerning gods love.
Just because Christianity is wrong, it doesn't make Islam correct.
@Kenmcnutt2 Islam is the TRUTH and the faith of all the prophets called their people for Islam “ Submission” since Adam to Moses, Jesus and Mohammed peace be upon them all.
Please read the Bible and the Quran only then you will realize the truth ✌️
@@superfly9420 I read them both. Why don't you try reading some science?
@Kenmcnutt2 I read science and I am a graduate of medical school. Islam doesn’t contradict science at all. If you have any contradiction please share with me. Islam is the guidance of God for all living creatures not only human. Open your heart and mind and seek the truth. Science is the pursuit and application of knowledge and understanding of the natural and social world following a systematic methodology based on evidence. But science doesn’t tell you how things existed. So plz enlighten me about the Quran contradictions with science!.
@@superfly9420 I have a number of problems with Islam, and to a smaller degree religion in general. I will start where I think Islam gets it the most wrong. I am not a Christian. You and I can agree that Jesus wasn't God, but the one thing that is known about Jesus that is the most historical is his crucifixion. Islam teaches that Jesus wasn't crucified. This is almost certainly false. The origins of Christianity prove almost 100% that Jesus was crucified. If you feel this is not the case, please explain the origins of Christianity based on history.
Kenmcnutt2 Christianity was taken from the ancient pagan myths.
The miraculous birth of Jesus (pbuh) in the Bible of being having mother but no father mimic the same stories of Horus, Krishna, Dionysus and Mithra in addition to other pagan spiritual figures according to the Ancient Scriptures. They all born of Virgins and have no fathers, have 12-Disciples. They all performed miracles, born on the 25th of Decembers, crucified and resurrected on the 3rd day and redeemers of the sinners!!!.
To understand Trinity you will need some brain and if you have that you will understand that muhammad was fooling you for his own selfish gains.
@Vpy2023 Trinity invented to retarded people from the Roman pagan myths.
Trinity or multiple identity disorder
Yes, God is love but trinity is psychiatric hospital
God was tortured and killed to save us from HIMSELF !
God was tortured and killed to save us from God !
According to the plan prepared by God, God has sent down God. God stayed for nine months in the belly of a creature of God (according to the Bible). After the birth of God, we circumcised God. And when God became great God, the creatures of
God wanted to kill God, but God prayed to God to save God but God will give up God despite God's insistently begging God but God left him alone to be slain by the God's creatures under the eyes of God and all that to save the creatures of God including the men of the church who rape the children in the churches of God, Hallelujah ! ! !
Christianity drove me crazy !
@@superfly9420 you place a limitation on God with your imagination. You cannot understand the concept of incarnation and how we perceive time and how God perceives time. If you understand these you can understand the concept of Trinity.
@Vpy2023 is beyond the magical understanding that the Christians can't see The bible says God is one and that he is not a human in so many verses in simple English.
Numbers 23:19 God is not human, that he should lie, not a human being, that he should change his mind. Does he speak and then not act? Does he promise and not fulfill?
2. Deuteronomy 6:4 - Hear, O Israel: The LORD thy God is one LORD.
24. Galatians 3:20 - Now a mediator is not a mediator of one, but God is one.
25. Ephesians 4:6 - One God and Father of all, who is above all, and through all, and in you all.
26. 1 Timothy 1 17 - Now unto the King eternal, immortal, invisible, the only wise
27. God, be honour and glory for ever and ever. Amen.
28. 1 Timothy 2:5 - For there is one God, and one mediator between God and men, the man Christ Jesus.
29. James 2:1 9 - Thou believest that there is one God; thou doest well: the devils also believe, and tremble.
Trinity word never existed anywhere in the abracadabra holy? Bible as well as incarnation crap.
@@superfly9420 you conveniently ignored the verses where Jesus says he and the Father are one (John 8:24 )
Where he forgave sins, when he accepted worship Matthew 28:9 but an angel stops such worship and instructs that only God is to be worshipped (Rev 22:9). Once we intersperse all the verses the picture of an ‘incarnation’ comes to the fore. Anyone walking on earth in flesh is son of God, but since Jesus is also incarnate God, he must have been there from the beginning. Since time unfolds in sequence for us Jesus appeared to us at the appointed time but he existed since the beginning(outside time) and that forms the basic exclusion in inclusion of God the son and God the Father. Jesus always said He and the Father are one and that anyone who sees Jesus has seen the Father. This is why I have been saying from the beginning that you need to understand time to understand Trinity. Our limitation in understanding God doesn’t mean we can put God into our limited box.
@Vpy2023 mmman… grow some brain cells. Jesus is a man and the son of man.
God isn’t horny to have kids, God is the CREATOR of everything in this universe.
God can’t be born from a woman and delivered via the vaginal birth canal.
According to ur holy moly and the church teaching Jesus born 2000 years ago and circumcised on the 7th day!!!. Jesus was baptized by John the Baptist. Can God be circumcised and baptized from sins?????
Holy Ghost or holy spirit. All Angels in heaven or on earth sent by God are Holy Spirits
The mind of a muslim is limited. To explain the trinity in a very simple way would confuse them.
You mean Christian's failure is unlimited, when none of them even understand what the pagan trinity really is.
John Pereira Ur Boolean algebras and calculus doesn’t help solve ur Trinity at all.
Can u bring Boolean problem and solve it her to prove that 1+1+1=1???.
Christians desperately unable to solve this abracadabra Trinity problem long time since its initiation in the first council of Nicaea 325 AD.
superfly9420: The point is our addition laws are not universally true.Addition laws of ordinary entities are not necessarily applicable to extra ordinary entities.Thus for ordinary speeds, the relative speed between two bodies moving in opposite directions the law is v+v=2v but for extra ordinary speeds of photons this law becomes c+c =c, where c= 300 000km/sec. In Arithmetic 1+1+1= 3 but in Boolean Algebra 1+1+1=1. For ordinary real numbers a +a +a = 3a, but for the extra ordinary number 1/0, called infinity, the law becomes
infinity +infinity +infinity = infinity. It is not possible to logically prove that 3 infinities add to give one infinity.But the assumption that it is so always leads to correct conclusions.
When you count ordinary men Tom, Dick and Harry you get 3 men. Father, Son and Holy Spirit are not human. They are spirits each one infinite in space and time. So one must count them like 3 infinities. It is not possible to prove logically that members of the Trinity make one God. But the assumption, or rather the belief, that it is so always leads to meaningful interpretation of verses in the Bible.
I admit most people find the doctrine of Trinity incomprehensible. That doesn't mean it is wrong.Just as most people find Theory of Relativity incomprehensible. For me Trinity makes sense and certainly not a" bunch of crap and nonsense" and I accept it as a Trinitarian .For another person Trinity may not make sense and he may reject it and call himself Unitarian or Non-Trinitarian. That doesn't make him any less Christian.But when Muslims mock, often with crass, undignified language, what is fundamental to Christian faith, the question that arises is why can't the Christians draw cartoons of Islam's prophet?
John Pereira try harder to explain the Trinity!. The more you explain the worse it gets.
Many Trinitarians gave example like:
Water= ice, liquid & vapor
Egg= shell, white & yellow
Melon= skin, seeds & red
Atom= neutron, proton & electron
Water oxygen, hydrogen & hydrogen
Relativity theory; Mass= 1 over the square root of moving mass speed minus the speed of light.
Can u tell me the 1/3 of ur infinity was dead for 3 days & 3 nights how much infinities left alive???.
Maaan you have 3 district individuals
Father, son & Holy Ghost, how these 3 person could be One????.
superfly9420: Analogies like ice, liquid, steam may not be suitable.In my opinion most suitable analogy is ENERGY in the form of Thermal energy, Light energy and Nuclear Energy. Father , Son and Holy Ghost can be one just as 3 infinities add to one. SoTrinity makes sense to me and I accept it. If it doesn't make sense to you it may be because you can't understand why 3 infinities add up to one infinity and that is because you couldn't master Calculus and that is probably because you have low IQ and that is probably because you are inbred. And so the more I explain the harder it gets for you. It is also possible that Trinity does make sense to you but if you admit it in public you will have to constantly mind your back side from your own coreligionists and you don't want to take that risk.The moral of the story is you can't outsmart Christians because they are superior to you just as the Quran too rightly states in Surah 3:55. So all you can do is use foul language and pretend you won the argument just like the Arabs who outnumber Israelis 50:1,lose all wars miserably and yet boast they won the wars.