That time a BNSF train was hit by a tornado | History in the Dark
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- Опубликовано: 2 окт 2024
- On April 26th, 2024, a BNSF train in Nebraska was hit by a tornado. Yes, really.
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#trains #railfan #tornado
Just crazy how tough trains actually are. I’m just thankful the crew didn’t get hurt
Not as tough as Superman!
@@danielsee1 Too bad superman doesn't exist IRL.
Since nobody was injured, I’m gonna go there…a new twist (no pun intended) to the cliche, “That tornado sounded like a freight train!”
What's the difference between a Midwesterner and the rest of the world? A Midwesterner would stand outside until the moment the twister was on top of them before taking shelter. Everyone else would have dove for the basement or storm shelter long before it hit where they're at. And for clarification, I am a Midwesterner, and have sat and watched many super cells pass over.
I am from the Midwest and I can tell you that I wouldn’t do that. I might take a picture of a tornado if it was far away, but I wouldn’t want to stick it out that close.
When a Midwesterner looks up at the sky, says "Nope!", and heads for the basement, you know things are probably not going to go well.
CHEERS BROTHER
@@TheOriginalJphyper I mean, I’m like that anyway. I’m not sure if that’s because I was actually born in Pennsylvania, but moved to the Midwest when I was three and as a result, I consider myself a Midwesterner because I’ve lived here basically all of my life but I’ve essentially had the attitude that I wouldn’t be opposed to seeing a tornado from quite a distance, but I don’t want it to be anywhere near where I’m at and certainly not in my town.
@@Andrew-r4x have you ever been to the Midwest?
I'm not positive, but I've heard the glass is bulletproof and the cab is reinforced to provide protection from collisions. Therefore the cab is the safest place for a tornado that size.
Bullet Resistant would be the best way to describe it. And yes, the cab is strong for collisions.
work for NS. ANY bad weather IE crap youself and hide type weather. GET IN THE CAB. locos weight 250k lbs MINUMUM. Very VERY little will phase them
@@sxgamesert2030 Thanks for giving us insight on how the crew are to handle situations like this.
The FRA requires all locomotives that exceed 25mph to have bullet proof glass. I guess because the engineers only get shot at going 26mph and above
@@McCracken_9 FRA 223 Glazing is not bullet proof.
Similar incident happened during the December 2021 tornado that wiped out mayfield Kentucky. Nobody on the train was killed but the tornado overall was the deadliest single tornado since the Joplin ef5 a decade earlier
Outside of an f5 a 400,000 lbs engine would prbably be a pretty safe place to hang out
We don't use the F scale any more, and haven't since 2007.
@@BattleshipOrion You still get the point, don't you?
I'd take on an EF 5 in a large locomotive. Get the hell away from the windows...
I would say that being in a locomotive during a tornado is pretty safe as they're a lot od weight concentrated in a small space.
it takes a lot to tip a Locomotive over by wind alone. far more than knocking over cars, particularly if they are empties.
given a modern Loco weighs in around 300 Tons, they are pretty stable.
most of the loco's Cab is reinforced against impact far worse than an EF-3. like whole Semi-trucks worse!
the Cab Windows facing forward are essentially Bullet Proof Glass nearly an inch thick! this being the most likely point where something nasty would be encountered.
riding out a Tornado in the Cab is the best move the crew could make short of hiding in the Loco's Nose where you are surrounded by 3/4" steel plates.
in effect, a Tornado Shelter on Rails!
the Tank Car shown remained upright as cylinders are surprisingly aerodynamic forms. the wind just flows around them.
boxcars, Hoppers, Autoracks and such have massive sides that catch the wind, and are a lot lighter. if 50+ Tons can be considered light!
If I recall, the cab's are supposed to withstand hitting another train head on. Also might just be me, but 300 tons is paper...something with the displacement of 2,700 tons is considered light to me, so a ww2 destroyer, and destroyer escort/frigate would be the equivalent of a tornado shelter at sea/port...this is just to give you an idea of how things are taken when you talk about different things. Anything north of 45,000tons is stuff I consider heavy, and anything above 100,000tons a bolder.
@@BattleshipOrion It's weight relative to size. Of course an entire WW2 destroyer would be heavier than a locomotive based on the difference in size. Locomotives are extremely heavy compared to the small footprint they take up.
It's 210 tons.
Call Reed Timmer. I see a new Dominator concept……
You'd have to cover the inside with 6" of acoustic foam. Not to deaden the sound of the tornado, to deaden the sound of Reed's bellowing.
@@Franklin-jj4jz fr💀
Im done with you lmao
A locomotive is probably the best tornado shelter. Everyone should have one in their back yard.
Important context, this tornado was the same one that hit Elkhorn and Bennington. It had stayed on the ground here in Lincoln, ripped through parts of Waverly and kept going to the north eastern part of Omaha suburbs and into Minden Iowa. Its path was just under 41 miles. There was another tornado that touched down a few miles away from this one, out near the Kawasaki assembly plant off of highway 34.
Despite what the BNSF facebook video captioned, this train was in Lincoln, NE and not Omaha. Omaha is about 45 miles north east of Lincoln on I-80.
Actually, it was later determined they were separate tornadoes, but both were part of the same supercell and very powerful. The same storm dropped eight tornadoes that day!
Minor nitpick, but the EF scale is not wind speed based, it's damage based
An EF3 can have wind speeds of 200+ mph but if it doesn't hit much or if it hits poorly built things it is given that rating. Also now I want to know if the surveyors have DI for trains and so forth. A quick Google says no they don't. Now I wonder what wind speed is needed to lift a loco like that off the tracks.
Also yes, list of times this has happened please? I want to say Mayfield 2021 hit a train and that was more powerful in terms of wind speed and damage
America, I'll just wave to you from across The Pond. You can keep your tornadoes, hurricanes, and ice storms. 😮❤😮
Yeah you might want to reconsider the tornado part.
And the hurricane part. UK got slapped by a Cat 1 a year or two ago.
@DeaconG1959 It's rare for winds to get that strong in Britain. The word hurricane is very rarely mentioned in UK weather forecasts. Certainly not at sea level. On the mountains, yes. We certainly don't get the kind of hurricane weather, say Florida gets.
This train that was hit by this tornado was BNSF H-KCKLIN which runs from Kansas City, MO to Lincoln, NE unfortunately this one just Happened to at the wrong place at the wrong time. I got video of the train being towed to Hobson Yard were the train was originally heading.
BNSF railway
@@jennifercarson3031 what's the difference
Pretty neat video.
There was 6 engines on the original train.
I didn't realize how many were pulling when I originally seen the tornado video from the crew. I think it was a day or 2 after it happened.
The train cars that got laid over didn't look all the bad nether.
That crew was in the safest possibility actually, they were safer in that locomotive than in any house in the path of that tornado, those locomotives weigh 400k+ lbs, it’d take some extremely strong winds to toss one of those any kind of distance from the rails.
That video was cool. Made a mess out there though. Amazing how fast BNSF got it off the tracks and back open (but it was a main line).
The Union Pacific safety guy
Let me get hit by this tornado.
Um, no, no, we cannot let you get hit by a tornado.
These New guys got to learn how to survive tornadoes.
This is a great vid posted on my bday.... Love History in the Dark's humor talking about stuff, and especially weird things that happened to trains.
Glad the EMD protected the crew. I’m also grateful the crew lived. By the way History in the dark, can you talk about the Ottawa Northern Railroad recently acquired by the Rock Island?
That's happened more than once .
More than 10 times.
Many many more times my friend
@@tripplefives1402 As long as there have been trains, there have been trains getting hit by, and surviving tornadoes.
Just to set the record straight this 🌪 happened just east of Lincoln Nebraska not Omaha
you can be confident when your sitting inside a 475,000 pound train engine, a nice chunk of steel to protect you.
It's like 130 automobiles all smashed into 16 ft by 70 ft. It ain't going nowhere..
The Bnsf subdivsion i grew up along side had a imtermodal train get blown over. Dogfood, gatorade, sextoys , etc spilled everywhere
I live in Nebraska, and Ive traveled between lincoln and omaha many times, I actually have photos of the aftermath a day later from the Interstate.
My wife and I after work drove back through Lincoln and went up to Elkhorn to see what happened. Once you got to Elkhorn, most of the roads were blocked off. But the little bit we did see, I feel for those families and businesses.
I live about an hour from where the train was at we watched the storm passed my work I'm glad everyone was safe
I wonder, did locomotive staying running after the twister after all the pumbling it took.
You can hear her rumbling when he looks out the window. But I imagine they shut her down relatively quickly.
Well I guess those people saying oh why dent they say there.....well it's safer to stay in the cab ...then out side out side there exposed...
I definitely think the crew was safe in there. Being in a 204 ton piece of metal with reinforced glass windows is definitely a good place to be in an event like this.
Heck of a story
This would be a cool series to do Me. Darkness “when choo choo’s survive natural disasters”
This happened last year in Nashville. A tornado touched down in the east side of the city tearing through homes and there sadly was one fatality. But right next to the affected neighborhood was a CSX train that was in the wrong place at the wrong time. Several cars were derailed but it barely made the news due to the other damage, injuries and death nearby.
I was in this tornado, I was sheltering at Kawasaki Motors Manufacturing on the other side of Lincoln, Nebraska.
Can you please make a list of the worst tilt train?
Probably the APT's
Also the caption on the video was not correct. Lincoln, NE was where that video was filmed (actually between Lincoln and Waverly) not Omaha, NE.
There is more footage than just thaty. There is the old video from the cab of a locomotive where the train is derailed by the tornado (that's the video with the oh sh*t moment as the white tank car crashes into the engine), there is also the one where the crew of a train runs away from a tornado south of Chicago, and other crew footage videos. It's be cool if you did a video on those too.
And for a reference, 31 cars, the train from the 2012 movie "Unstoppable" had two locomotives ( a C44-9w, I've seen CP 777 IN PERSON, it's a c44-9, and maybe a AC44), followed by, you guessed it, 31 cars. Anyone who has watched the movie will recall this quote "...a missile, the size of the Chrysler building". So that tornado took out the Chrysler Building's height, in length of train.
The tank car derailed it, not the tornado. They ran right through the tornado, it didn't affect it.
A recent event that’s now apart of railroading history
I need to see more about this kind of stuff I need to see what happens when a F5 hits.
There's a video on RUclips where a Norfolk Southern fright train got hit by a tornado in North Carolina back in 2011 and the train was still upright and crew ok
Didn't a Penn Central train get hit by a tornado too Darkness.
DT&I RR EF5 tornado 1974
I bet most with the dumb questions probably have know idea about anything to do with a train
An engineer rode out one in Xenia, Ohio's, 1974 F5. He saw it approaching and blew the air horn.
Being a locomotive is a steel box weighing ~200 tons and has a cab capable of withstanding crashing into cars, trucks, bridge beams, etc, aside from some shattered glass flying around, I'd feel a lot safer being in there than out in the open.
So one more question...
Are there any specific railroad regulations for tornadoes or is it company or area specific? Now I want to know what the FRA mandates about tornadoes and what they expect crews to do vs companies with the same thing
1:32 The NWS office in Omaha until April 26th had never issued a tornado emergency in the history of it's existance
That's doesn't surprise me, the concept of tornado emergencies is recent thing, with first one issued on May 3, 1999 and only becoming standardized for all NWS offices in 2016.
Proof again that it’s not how hard the wind blows, but more just what the wind blows…(thank you Ron White)
EMD SD70 ace for the win
Nice one, Darkness 😂
Trains do sort of look like trailers.
Luckily no one was hurt, but fuel tankers were tipped over off the rails
those windows (on all sides) can stop repeated shots from a 22. so they were never going to break with those wind speeds unless something massive flew into them or smaller heavier things like bricks and stuff.
Train windows are bulletproof by federal law.
There was a video released a few years ago from the on-board camera (rear locomotive) of a UP freight train where several of the first cars were knocked over by a tornado while the train was moving. The cars fell over, put the train in emergency, then the rest of the train rammed the stopped locomotives.
That happened Jan 7, 2008 just north of Harvard in the village of Lawrence in McHenry County, Illinois. It was also rated EF3, and derailed 12 cars of that train. Even though it had been UP for quite some time at that point, the report still identifies the line as Chicago and Northwestern. Seeing that tank car bouncing along the track (which was loaded hazmat, and required an evacuation) along with 86' box car spinning around on that bridge near the end of that video was quite surreal.
@@therockisland I live 30 min from Harvard Illinois. Wow I didn’t know that video happened in Harvard. Pretty nuts
A diesel locomotive is like a very heavy dumbbell to a tornado
It used to be that tornados were attracted to mobile home parks. Now it’s trains. 🚂
Some how the engines survived the tornado.
So why don't storm chasers just use trains?
Thank God!
That we don't have that in Europe.
woo! both of my special interests in one video!
The United States is one of only two places in the world, that has tornadoes.
If the tornado was much stronger, it would've *twisted* the frame.
Nope.
How about a steam train against a tornado? Big Boy v.s Tornado! 😄🚂
Given that the big boy's tender alone weighs as much as the locomotive these guys were in (~428,000 lbs) then add another ~762,000 lbs for the loco it's self, at ~1,190,000 lbs I think even an ef5 would have a hard time moving it. You would probably be more concerned about debris piercing either the cab or the boiler.
@@White-Wolf1969 I like those odds, but you are right, just like a pebble with a car's windshield if it hits it at just the right spot and it's small enough (see 475) It could puncture the boiler And the cab is quite possibly fragile with really no place to hide still nonetheless, I love the big boys odds 🙂🚂
my friend phantomrail77 took photos of another train that got hit by a tornado in central kansas
I actually live near where it happened
The crew did the best thing, ride it out.
Famous last words: ummmm
EF scale is rated by damage done, so an ef3 like sulphur 2016 or el reno 2013 would've probably picked this train up. On the contrary an ef5 like el reno 2011 would've probably obliterated it.
That locomotive could stand getting hit by an EF 5, no problems. they are too heavy with a low center of gravity. I wouldn't be afraid at all. Get down in the nose and hold on..
I’d say El Reno would do something to a hundred of thousands of tons of locomotives, probably falling over and heavy damage, but not enough to pick it up. These things are remarkably heavy
I wouldn't be afraid of an EF 4 or 5 tornado in a 430,000 pound locomotive. Just stay in the nose, hopefully away from the restroom.,.on the outside chance it tips over.
The Piedmont/El Reno ef-5 tornado likely would of had the power to push and roll a 450,000lb locomotive if it was able to do it to an oil derrick, nearly 2 million pounds.
@@gabrielblackmon6270 I'd still ride it out. A head on with another train would be a problem, also a loaded fuel truck! Lol, but a tornado? nope, not worried. The chance of an EF 5 is slim to none anyway. I've never saw a picture of a locomotive laid over by a tornado. Now a smaller locomotive such as a 4 axle unit, it might be possible. They weigh 260,000 pounds...
The mayfield EF-4 tornado hit a CSX train in 2021 and tossed a tank and And a grain car 1200 yards peak winds was estimated at 190MPH in the mayfield tornado
If you have ever been in a train motor, the not much, if any room in there. But, they were absolutely protected. The restroom door itself weighs about 400 lbs. And there's just enough room, for one person comfortably. They both were safe, while in that motor.
Yeah like he said saw this vid a while back but glad to get some after story/pics not to mention the hilarious commentary 🤣😂 (The man says what we're all thinking).
Trains generally when they have to stop take over a mile to stop and probably just as long to get up to speed and trust me I would know I'm a massive rail fan
9084 leads a C-NAMNMA coal load on the BNSF Hannibal sub each engine can weight from 180t to 200t the t stands for tons and as well as that the windows can withstand up to a 45. Long rifle shot from the front and 9mm on the side windows these types of locomotives are made to last
I actually saw the video on twitter, before it really became viral. I saw the video only a couple hours after the tornado hit.
One of ATSF’s got hit out around Ancona, IL. Or was it Verona?
Remember: Diesel Locomotives are Tough, like they are *TOUGH.* They can survive being blown by a Twister and Surviving. Think of a Diesel Locomotive as a Mobile Storm Shelter (and sure, it’s a Good Idea to Duck down away from the windows).
Only an Absolute BEHEMOTH of Tornado can Topple an Entire Train (Diesel Locomotive & All) Over.
One of the reasons why i love American locomotives, Width, height and Weight would most of time Protect crews from Any disaster that might come across them.
I knew History In The Dark would talk about this!
1st time I`ve seen this or read of it. Glad that the crew was okay. Wrecked a lot of cars & tracks probably too.
It *is* possible for a powerful enough tornado to tip over a locomotive, but even an EF5 isn't going to throw a modern locomotive. You're talking about a block of steel weighing 400,000+ pounds. EF4s and EF5s can throw things up to about 70-80 thousand pounds, but much more than that and they can shift it, but not outright throw it. Train cars, on the other hand? An EF5 *can* pick those up and throw them pretty large distances, especially when empty. An EF5 would have thoroughly trashed the locomotives, quite possibly twisting the chassis, but it wouldn't have thrown them and the crew probably would have survived with injuries.
This crew really did do the right thing, get away from the windows and into the body of the locomotive, wait for the tornado to pass, and assess the damage. They truly were in a situation where sticking with their vehicle was the best course of action, and a train's pretty much the ONLY vehicle where that is true, short of a tank.
I saw the video of the engineer filming it from inside the cab
That was a crazy day. I live only a few miles away from where that happened!
Tornado emergency? In Nebraska we call that summer.
"Oh, that delicious looking freight train. I'm gonna eat it!"
🤣🤣🤣
Tornado survived quite well. Maybe a new Dominator model for Reed Timmer.
The forward section "short hood" where they took refuge is 9/16 inch thick steel plate. The lower parts around the door and the lights are up to a full inch thick steel. Very safe. Like being in a bank vault. Both layers of the forward facing glass is shatter resistant. The side windows are double layer with the inner panels also shatter resistant. The crew were never in any danger once they got away from the windows.
One of the tornadoes during this storm also had a direct hit on the small town of Elkhorn Nebraska and leveled most of the town. I believe if I'm remembering correctly we had at least 5 or 6 touch down that day.
I'd be pissing and shiting my pants in that thing come out the train when I was in it
Interesting fact any and all locomotive engine engine windows on modern day freight trains for class one are rated to a stand, some sort of bullet, if it's ready to rest, and a 50 Cal, they could just stand there and watched. I just know engine windows are ready to be a bolt resistant/proof
Storm chaser 101, drive a freight train
The locomotive was locked in he wasn’t going anywhere
That oh that delicious train IMA EAT IT >:)
just crank the engine and move...looked pretty clear to the left
A train hit a tornado???????? That train was stopped the tornado hit it wtf 😂🤣
The same thing happened to an Norfolk Southern train years before this
I mean if there was anywhere in the world I could be during a tornado, besides a shelter. It would probably be a train engine.
I did see a truck hit a tornado a few weeks back on yt. Like the tornado was right there, sitting in the road, and this mad lad in a tanker barreled straight into it at like 70 mph. Its rare, but it is possible to hit a tornado and not always the other way around lol.
I was the first person to see the video bc my dad sent it to me bc that’s his co worker
There mostly bullet proof glass on the train locomotives
this was a neat video so glad the crewman used his phone to record and share with us and nobody can blame the crew for any of this.thanks for sharing
I live in nebraska, but I am looking for 1 to 2 hours way