Amazon Alexa Locks "Racist" Owner Out of Smart Home
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- Опубликовано: 11 сен 2024
- In this video I discuss how Amazon locked a customer out of their Alexa and connected smart devices for 1 week because a delivery driver through their Eufy doorbell said something racist.
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Imagine trusting Amazon with anything
cries in AWS
That's like trusting the CIA, literally 💀
With how complacent people are, is it really shocking though that things like this happen? And it's only gonna get worse.
Imagine trusting big tech with anything!
I trust Amazon always wants more money.
People in tech/security are the ones who usually have "dumb" homes. This guy's problem was that he didn't make his home dumb enough.
Either that, or they make their own smart homes. Out of Raspberry Pi, ESP 8266, & plenty of motors and sensors.
Too smart to be Dumb.....sure there must be a moral somwhere.
I bought a wifi rgb lightbulb a while ago. Once I realised it was connecting to a server in China so that I could use it through an app from anywhere in the world (which was not mentioned anywhere), I replaced it with a Bluetooth only model.
Why do I need such gimmick? I like to relax in a room I can paint sun yellow, orange, red pink, depending on the mood. Plus it's dimmable and can be programmed to turn on and off when I'm not home.
When amazon releases a toilet that wipes your ass automatically I'll change my mind.
@@EXMachina. Japanese have had bidets with heated water, heated seats, massaging, pulse patterns, air drier, LEDs, speakers, memory settings, TV remote, and so much more I couldn’t understand. Forget using sand paper that’s outdated.
Yeah, let me just wire my house with an IRL Reddit mod.
Reddit = Ministry of Boof lol
"preheat your oven when you're 30 minutes from home"
I love having a remote-accessible "burn down my house" button!
It's useless too like ovens preheat pretty fast and if you're making something that 15-30 min goes by quickly. the funniest(dumbest) "smart" thing I can think of is washing machines, like fr ppl are going to put the clothes in and then turn it on remotely‽
Then you just install a "smart" smoke detector or fire suppression system.
Imagine getting those disabled because you allegedly made a "racist" remark...
Ah you see its fine, because there are also smart fire sprinklers that will take care of that problem
@@SuperTort0ise Especially considering there was already a solution to that washing machine issue, the built-in "dumb" timer.
@@TheRealFlamingNinjafr there were those
Its hard to believe that we live in an age where people actually pay money to have big brother watching & listening to their lives in their own homes 24/7, and to the extent that they can even have parts of their home shut off or work against them if said big brother disapproves of what they say or think in their own living spaces...
Not even pay -- Big Brother is letting people have "free TVs" with built-in microphones and cameras that can't be turned off without a "technician" coming by and turning everything on again.
We are the product, the ad agencies are the consumer.
They are in final transformation: mega sheeple. 🐏🐑
my dad has one, I remember getting on his case about it years ago and he shrugged and said, "it tells jokes."
Nothing will get through to that man.
I mean that Disney movie from 1999 named "smart house" is oddly predictive of how things turned out.
Well we can't have *terrorists* making plans against Chevron and Visa! This is for our own safety! /s
I'm tempted to run up to smart home owners' homes in a mask, shout racial slurs until the doors automatically lock, then leave.
pretty much now. yes it is the way
How to make someone's life hell - tutorial
Troll ass mf
😂why is this so funny
gamer event irl
I don’t care IF he did anything racist. Shouldn’t matter. If he did something illegal call the police. If he is abusing a delivery service, they can cancel him. But to go and say everything that company has in his home needs to be cut off… if this is normalized we are all defacto peasants serving the major service companies.
Amazon: "But muh social responsability"
Maybe don't connect your house to the internet. And by your house I mean literally every appliance and electronic thing.
Cyberpunk dystopia
@@kevina.4036I agree but we shouldn’t lay down on this regardless
We're worse than peasants, we're livestock to them.
the fact that he's a microsoft engineer makes the story so much better
He probably has an AI girlfriend.
not so smart after all
I encourage you to read my article. There's a lot of missing information here.
Linux diff
@@Dragonk116 what's wrong with having an AI girlfriend?
Pretty fucked up how one employee of a big megacorp can just shut down your entire home because all of its systems run off of their infrastructure. Always knew "smart" homes were just a sham
All these tech companies should be broken up, but we know that will never happen. Mega corps are completely integrated into the government. Amazon might as well be the government at this point.
@@shenFen-jf2jkSame with Apple, and ABC Inc; therein lies the problem.
Smart homes are for stupid people.
there's an open source alternative that i think is pretty good,you can run everything locally
so the idea is not dumb,just the most accessible version
@@danang5 Indeed. The basic idea of "I'd like my windows to close if it starts raining outside without my having to wake up and get up to do it, and I have engineering and programming skills and can make this happen" is great. But the more people you want to sell the idea to, the more "magic" you have to make everything seem, and that always decreases the control the end user has over what they theoretically paid for and are using.
Considering he’s an engineer, you’d think he’d be smarter than to buy any Amazon smart home garbage
Diversity Hire and Affirmative Action in a nutshell.
I personally know an engineer who believes in Ancient Aliens stuff. Being an engineer does not make you smart, just like being "a doctor" doesn't.
@@daystranger Someone can be smart while believing things on the basis of extremely poor evidence. If that weren’t the case we could safely assume all people who are religious aren’t intelligent. Being an engineer or doctor doesn’t make you smart but it’s correlated with a higher level of intelligence than your average walmart greeter.
I think there's more evidence of ancient aliens than evidence of big corporations doing anything in your best interest.
Smart and strong-mindedness are orthogonal traits. You can have brilliant but weak-minded person, and stupid but strong-minded person.
They don't open their code for you, so why would you open your door for them.
haha based
real.
FOSS is love, FOSS is life.
What is that Ai generated pfp 💀
@@WolfyRed ironic
A doorbell cancelling you out of your home is the most 2023 thing ever.
It should after I'm done with it😈
Shotgun door breaching nossle
a few years ago we were making memes about your smart fridge or self driving car locking you out for saying the wrong words, look at where we are now.
@@BlackMetalVengeance I saw the future and it happened
Uncle Ted was right.
I have a racist doorbell too. It's white 😬
based, i will program mine to yell the nword
I can almost guarantee the driver didn't mishear anything.
He heard it say "Excuse me, can I help you?" and he immediately went defensive. "I'm wearing my urniform, what the fuck you think I'm doing?"
similar thoughts - he heard correctly ....
And because it was a nice house he automatically assumed the owners were white & decided to be a prick about it.
Perpetual victim
@@teufeldritch damn, that's racist
@@teufeldritch Also consider that most ai voices (Alexa, Siri, Cortana, Samsung Sam) sound like/are modeled after white women.
I'm not ever preheating my oven remotely. In fact, just having this functionality built-in is asking for trouble.
thankyou for confessing your racist paranoid thoughts. The Bureau of Morality will collect you shortly for your health, safety and treatment.
Well if they build all housing that way you won't have a choice sadly.
@@ErinRSU unless you’re renting you can always replace it. Or complain
Ovens can already be preheat on a timer. Imagine not being able to plan to the point that you have to buy a cellphone doohickey
I've had an oven door literally just fall off before; I don't think I will either.
"The customer is always right" Youre just not the customer, youre the data provider to them
And an Operating System is now a Service because humans are gendered switches lower than an NPC.
"The customer is always right" is such a misused saying. It wasn't about customer rights or power, but that sales/revenue numbers (the customer, so to speak) are what decides things.
Well this certainly isn’t the cool kind of dystopia
It's the everything is fake and gay kind of dystopia
If our dystopia was leather trenchcoats and cyber-augmentations that would be kinda cool, but no, our dystopia is full of annoying and whiney people crying wolf
I used to hate Black Mirror because it was full of "diverse", muttified, whiny liberals and SJWs. Then I realized it was a show about a dystopian future and I was just like, "subtle... very subtle." 😏
@@baccanoverano9367fakaytopia
@jamesc.e.s.4551 yup
I work in construction, one of the homes i worked in was completely "smart" there were barely any switches or even sockets in the house, it all worked via smartphone or tablet.
Imagine how the owners reacted when in the middle of winter (freezing outside) the internet was down.
The list of consequences :
couldnt get inside, make coffee, take a hot shower, put on heating etc .
Geniuses !!!
Imagine if you break your phone 💀
This is one of the reason folks like Carburetors. You could rebuild them. Same with Bands in a transmission. You could tune them. Try doing that with any modern ECU controlled car 25 years latter?
Remember the Xbox One launch when MS and Adam Orth got in hot water for the "always on" requirement? This just reeks of that. I can understand putting your faith in copper wires, but I can't understand putting your faith in internet-connected machines without a manual, physical override for basic utilities.
That being said, I live in FL where heating is only useful for a few weeks a year.
Owned
people have no foresight and are incapable of anything.
Imagine spending money on spyware that can at any moment of a mega corp's whim whom sees you nothing more than a wallet, can shut you out of your own life and ruin you.
You just described "banking".
Not only people allow big tech to spy on them, they also paid for the equipment 😂😂😂
-we will spy on you
-you will pay for it
-we will make a profit
-and you’ll be happy
that already happened in society for decades ....- like paying for TV Programing
@Mentaloutlaw403Seems legit.
Yes like using Windows, everything Apple, most Android, electric grid, banks (except credit unions they are based), public water supply, outsourcing your guns to the police. All of these you can fix yourself, you need to buy some property first.
This almost feels like some sort of soft corporate warfare between two tech companies using contemporary social justice armaments.
best comment yet
I'm still not buying the racist doorbell narrative. Something much larger is going on here.
Corpos are royal houses of modern time
it's the classic leftist socialist/communist crap TBH.
this has always been their goal, just now they have the technology to help them
@@Nurse_Xochitlamazon socialist/comunist? Wtf
locking someone out because they're "racist" is nothing - the point is they can direct thugs to their home and open the door, to teach them a lesson.
China already does this and since the USG is becoming one of its vassals, we should expect much of the same style of governance.
Racist detected on Amazon-ian soil! Future doctors and lawyers deployed!
Jesus! That's a possibility not too improbable when you come to think about it. ... 😮😮😮
Amazon prime, same day ass-kicking
Fuck! I have my tin foil hat all the time! But, what you posted (got me scared): " they can direct thugs to their home and open the door, to teach them a lesson"
Why ANYONE even has an Alexa is a mystery to me. Unless you are paralyzed or don’t have use of your hands or something like that- there is zero reason spending your money on an eavesdropping device.
I had a presentation done in my school from a guy who said he has a "smart home", I thought he was cringe until he told us that it's all his code and he runs it on a Linux server, he basically had everything, his personal disk, a media player, lights, windows, curtains...
He was basically selling Linux server courses.
On a scale 1-10, how safe is that?
Make it open source.
@@MrElmostudios yeah, the only way to trust a program is to be able to have someone you trust, including yourself, examine the code.
0 because why in the fresh hell do these things need "smart accessibility"?
Unless you are literally paralysed you have no reason to have your lights, curtains, etc. hooked up to any technology more advanced than a wall switch.
The most secure connection is no connection.
@@TrueXiarno I meant how safe it is from other people trying to hack his house curtains.
Found it really interesting to be able to control some things around the house with my phone, but safety first.
Depends, if he hosts his own servers and uses a secure connection when connecting to the wider internet (think vpn/https) for outside control, it's probably not very dangerous.
Still, no system is perfect, I would keep some critical systems like, inside camaras, on an offline network just to be safe.
Here's the worst part. What if someone had a life alert system tied to their smart home? Amazon would effectively have the power to order someone's death through denial of life saving services. Better yet, what if a criminal used Amazon's political bias to shut down someone's security system for a week so that they could commit a crime against that home owner? Frankly, criminal charges should be laid against Amazon for their blatant disregard for the health and safety of their customers.
There are certainly things in the t&c that absolve amazon from responsibility in case of life or death situations.
@@holdenwinters68 Fortunately, there is already case law stating that terms and conditions are null and void if a company has failed to properly inform customers of those conditions. And clicking "yes" on a terms and conditions prompt that no one bothers to read does not count as properly informing customers.
The people who own these companies will never ever face justice or jail time. We are their slaves all but in name
Well the people with life support systems already depend on the state in the first place so they can't say anything bad anyway.
@@holdenwinters68 you cant just sign away your human rights, law is stronger then tos
We had a 1st gen Echo in our master bathroom for listening to music in the morning ruclips.net/user/postUgkxABghAEkaIDGZfHRBH3D3rBrlraNmnC71 and while in the shower. I didn't realize how tinny and awful the sound output on the original Echo was until we replaced it with the Studio. It was a sonic upgrade far beyond what I was expecting. Just wow. I love it because it's like having speakers IN the shower. My friend likes it because the music is so loud that she can no longer hear me singing. So that's a win-win.
Even if the accusations of verbal abuse against delivery workers were true, this would be easily solved by refusing to deliver packages to that address. There is no justification for retroactively disabling the devices the guy already bought. Imagine you're late on your electricity bill, so they shut off the power but then they also tow away your electric car, which was recharged before you defaulted on your payment. No company should have that much power, especially if they are already a monopoly.
In the future, you will not own your car anyway and its FSD can make it drive back to Tesla by itself.
These people have absolute hatred for the English and northern Europeans, so it makes sense that anything they say, do, or even read will be criticized and publicly shamed
Alexa only works if it's linked to an Amazon account. They didn't target his smart home devices. They just suspended his Amazon account which in turn prevents you from asking Alexa to do anything if she's linked to it. He could still use his kasa app or whatever apps control the smart devices he had integrated to Alexa for additional voice control, or just turn things on/off by hand like the good ol days. Lastly, all he really needed to do if his account got suspended was to just make a whole new Amazon account with a bogus address and re-link his Alexa to the new account. This whole thing sounds a bit dramatic if you ask me.
@@paaao They could perhaps ban their device's mac address and/or serial number.
The only real solution is open source and self hosted... if you still want a "smart" home.
@Nurse_Xochitl My home is filled with kasa smart plugs, switches, and devices. I can control them with the app, Alexa, google, or straight from a Linux box/server with kasa python program. (Which yes, is open source). The API for kasa is not all that locked down, and I bet most of the other manufacturers are similar since they pretty much all can be discovered and controlled by multiple pieces of hardware and software. Kasa is hands down the best and simplest solution I've found. The devices are all tcp/ip and require no hub or server to control. Just an app, or home assistant, or if you're a simple man, a Linux server and crontab. Pretty straightforward really. If Amazon shut down tomorrow, I'd lose voice control over my devices, but that's it. Same the guy this video is about. Not a big deal.
The best part of this story is how the guy thinks that this is a good idea, so long as only applied to actual heckin racists. Some people are beyond help.
EDIT: So after a bit of research, apparently the guy was not defending amazon. I think a lot of people including myself got the impression from his quote "I fully support Amazon taking measures to ensure the safety of their drivers" that he was defending amazon's actions. He has apparently made a youtube video clarifying what he actually meant: ruclips.net/video/_onpy_gGnyU/видео.html
The most concerning part
It still amazes me that most people believe that those accused of "being racist" should receive harsher penalties than convicted murderers and pedophiles.
pretty much yep
Clown 🤡 🌎 world
He was so close to self awareness, but he has to consoom, and that addiction is extremely difficult to overcome
Even if something rude or racist actually was said through the doorbell... It definitely should not be up to companies to decide whether or not they allow you to use systems/products that you paid for.
If you're being rude to an employee in a store and getting kicked for it, that's one thing. But being a rude or even racist person within your own home?
It's terrible that people are like that, but it's really not up for anyone to try and force punishments for that. Some people just suck. Gotta learn to live with it.
LAWSUIT is all that needs to be said..... CLASS ACTION.... but then again PRIVACY POLICIES EXIST TO NULLIFY CIVIL DISOBEDIENCE and shut them down.
amazon gulag ™️
I cant wait for neurolink and metaverse where they can even read your thoughts and punish you for thinking the "wrong" things 🤣
I‘ll be gone by then living somewhere in the wilderness.
@@RealBullbear or just straight up shutdown your brain entirely or inject intrusive thoughts in it.
@@RealBullbear that sounds like proto-Ministry of Truth
bro got cancelled by his home💀
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Love how private companies can have such a big influence while forcing a "guilty until proven innocent" attitude.
They are French deep inside.
Until you realize who owns all these companies
They are not “white” folks
What do you mean "private companies"? Amazon is literally a public company. You can buy it's shares and become owner of means of production.
@@asdasdasdasda-md4ck yea i'm totally talking about stocks
@@JBLZFTW lol he came across as a dumbass not understanding your comment
It's almost even more shocking is that he probably still has Amazon products.
Few things here, going to Google or Apple wouldn't really do anything except shift the company who has control. I've been working on switching to locally hosted voice assistants but currently the land scape for that just isn't up to par. I will say though there are plenty of things I used my voice assistants for as a catch all that could really be, door sensors, motions sensors, etc. Apple is probably the best here though as far as major companies go. When I use Alexa to turn on a light it's noticeably slower than when I used Siri. I'm pretty sure that's due to Alexa leaving the network and coming back vs just staying local.
Again that said, moving from one company to another that has the same power doesn't seem like a good solution. I'm also still escalating with Amazon internally.
@@DevBrandonJackson That's good. However, wouldn't it be more secure to just forgo some convenience if the alternative is relying on a big tech company?
@@DevBrandonJackson How COOL is it to get a reply from not only the guy, but a Microsoft Straight up Software developer! 🤩 Dang... I never wash my screen again...
Oh wait! 😂
It all comes back to the thing I hate the most:
buying a product that can tell you no.
In the 2000's we'd just call this a bugged house.
My favorite part of this was all the reportinf referring to it as an accident or unintended.
Like they accidentally put in a ton of work designing this thing to deactivate all your devices when you've been reported for literally anything amazon doesnt like.
Thats insane.
Actually, that's possible. It could be that code for remotely deactivating Kindles whose owners were flagged as probably breaking DRM or probably affiliated with somebody else flagged for that (which we know existed years ago, and which was absolutely intentionally written) managed to get copy-and-pasted into this set of products, and the people testing those products assumed that if it made it in they should make sure it worked properly... and so on until finally somebody assumed if they had the ability to deactivate somebody's house devices it meant they had the responsibility for doing so.
I'm not saying it's not insane, but it really could have happened accidentally.
@DanaOtken nah because the only way it's an accident is if you accidentally fired all of the product testers, accidentally didn't set any oversight over the project after it went live, accidentally gave an amazon delivery driver the ability to report this to HQ, accidentally had someone manually turn off their systems service or flag that particular person to the system, and then accidentally not answer any queries, or customer support to quickly fix the problem.
Idk possible even if it's incredibly unlikely but if it were an accident, there's still no excuse for it. You've just intruded on that person's life so aggregiously that it might as well be made illegal.
What alarms me more is I think this bloke at Microsoft was working on something another foreign government did not like at his company. This may have been a way to send an underhand warning while making it look like something else that we are seeing today.
They are always listening. Every voice activated device has to be always listening. This is obvious, unless you think "hey Google" is magic spell.
Listening and transmitting aren't the same thing
@@wlonsdale1 That's correct, yes. I don't know why you're mentioning it, but yeah.
@@wlonsdale1 and all you've done so far is transmit.
And then the devices have the audacity to say in their robotic, monotone voices “I only listen for the key” YEAH FUCKING RIGHT
It should be enshrined into law that they cant selectively lock you out of services for opinions
Kinda hard when lawmakers are only focused on sending billions overseas or arresting Trump
@@andreyv1there have been 5 congressional heatings on AI in the last few weeks…
Wrong. Talmudic Law supersedes all rights to privacy
@@classicalAnime Yes, which is a terrible thing. AI is to dangerous to allow any regulations to exist.
That's where I'm trying to push this thing. Most people want to dunk on me without even reading the article. I was never hurt here due to self hosting most things. Nothing was reliant on amazon except my theater room where I have bluetooth lights synced with the echo device there. If I was the average person (when it came to tech) I would likely have been locked out of many things and either basically forced to start over or just wait.
I want more things like this to happen because I think it helps make naive technophiles aware of how awful smart devices are. I dream of one day toppling over the technological system and getting real freedom
They will just go back to installing a government agent in your house.
get rid of any device you're using to make this comment first
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It starts with a supposed "slur offense", then they begin to control what you can eat, your carbon taxes, if you're allowed to leave home, if you can drive your car and so on.
Yeah I'm good. After the whole " locking thermostat" thing last year, I am not ever getting that. The house I am in has been around since the 50's, and I would rather keep the trifecta of toxic materials ( lead, asbestos, and mercury) than fix it with smart appliances
Imagine claiming to be "privacy conscious", whilst using Alexa of all things!
When I heard about the story, I was a little bit baffled that Amazon didn't even bother to check the recording that they definitely have access to before locking him out.
The recordings came from self-hosted devices, though.
@@TheTubePoweredOne" self-hosted devices "
@@TheTubePoweredOnethat's what Amazon wants you to believe, that they aren't secretly hoarding the data on the smart homes. I guess the real reason is that they don't want to admit that they can access those recordings so pretend like they can't
@@crazycoffee Yeah but its not owned by amazon.
They didn't have access to the recordings
I was actually lectured one time by Google assistant for cursing it out quite hilarious if you ask me
the Snapchat AI told me to stop being abusive and then started giving me silent treatment
quite the achievement
"Duuuuh, BuT ThAt is ConSpiRaCY TheOry! WhY WoUlD ThEy CaRe aBoUT SpYInG ME?! Duuuuuuuuh! WhY Do YOu BeLieVe AlL PoWeRFuL PeOPlE WaNTs tO HarM uS? YoU Are ToO MiSanThRoPic, EvRyBoDy is WorKing For Our GoOd!"
we should cancel the delivery driver instead
in a way i'm glad amazon did this because it shows their true nature. it shows everyone what the deal is. masks off.
Maybe it’s time to preheat the ovens
Uncle Ruckus: Alexa, play Jimmy Rebel's songs.
Alexa: You are blocked.
Alexa, Play "Bryson Gray"
Alexa: *bans and cancels you*
For a guy who works at microsoft, I don't think he knows the term "principle of least privilege", i.e. giving bare minimum control to someone so that they don't do anything more than needed. A smart oven is not needed, you're not going to die if you go hungry for 30 minutes longer. A smart fridge is not needed, it does pretty much nothing more than a regular fridge. A smart vacuum could be needed, but if you're physically capable it's not needed. A smart TV... actually is kinda cool I like those but if you have a console or PC hooked up to it, it's not needed.
A smart fridge would be useful if actually told me what is running low on it so I would buy it. Why the fuck I would I need Twitter in my fridge
@@thomasb282 Mine's been running smooth. My grandma's is also running smooth. Perhaps yours is outdated?
"malfunctioning wife units" 🤣🤣🤣
We were at a friend's apartment who has Alexa and Amazon prime. He was streaming RUclips Music videos on the TV. We were talking about planning a trip to Dubai when RUclips started playing Emirates and Etihad airlines adverts back to back. Creepy AF
"A Tale of Unwanted Disruption: My Week Without Amazon" a story written by ChatGPT
Imagine letting your children bathe and exist near Ring cameras/Amazon Alexa or their alternatives
Your front door is in your bathroom? 🤔
@@MattM-oe6qs people put those little tablet / commhnicator things in a lot of the rooms of their house . they are for video calling , controls , etc
Imagine setting up one of those smart workout mirrors in your house
Hey Mental outlaw, I've actually been following your channel for some time now and thanks for probably the most faithful coverage of this event! I will just add that I do self host/run everything critical locally. The only devices that actually went unresponsive were... my theater room lights as I have those bluetooth-ed with Alexa. Aside from that I just used Siri for everything else or my own local dashboards since I use things like home assistant. Though it's very strange that devices which are strictly local and running Bluetooth and need no Internet connection didn't work (the lights in the theater room).
I also take the approach of an "escalator can never be broken, it can only become stairs", in my home.
Amazon should not have right to shut down devices we've brought from them. I'd say the only exception here would be if someone figured out how to abuse the underlying language model was causing massive fires at AWS. Other than that let the police deal with it. I understand they currently do, but let's be honest, everything is going smart. I bought a charcoal grill and even it has a wifi antenna (I put it on a vlan cause why does a grill need to be on my network). Wifi isn't currently critical to its operation nor does it even need to be used. However, fast forward 15 years, how will that look?
In the past week I've had a lot of people not even read the article or understand what I'm trying to get at. I was fine here because I did take precautions and plan for outages (network, power, data). Most people don't. Amazon makes it very easy to just say "Alexa, scan for devices" and that's it. If this happened to someone less technical (not an insult cause I'm the average car user, we are all average in one form or another) they would have been screwed. While for now they would have the ability to at least download apps and reset their devices, they may not even know that's possible.
Instead of trying to dunk on me we should be focused on Amazon. They have responded publicly and it's a start, however their statement isn't good enough. I'm going to keep fighting this on my end.
P.s. I had to use corporate speak if I want to be taken seriously for anyone wondering why I said "considering" or whatever. You can't throw a temper tantrum to look cool for your reddit buddies and expect for anyone to really take you seriously.
I moved to China to teach English because nobody's hiring fresh engineering grads during the GFC. I bought a Taobao smart speaker to act as a music alarm and it controls some lights. I say "Tianmaojingling, turn on the coffee machine (dakai kafeiji)" And it mishears me as "da feiji" which means to jerk off and talks back to me about swearing. I have to say it several times to get my morning cup of coffee.
@@hufficag I would say that's crazy, however I think we expect for china to act that way. This is not a reflection on you as if moving to China was best for you then so be it. I'm not shaming you and I hope no one else here tries to dunk on you for you making what you believed to be best decimos for you at that time. Obviously here in the US we aren't going to take that.
Why do you need even those smart devices? I don't want any of them in my home. Even my router is running on open-source software because I don't trust enough with any standard routers from ISPs to have potential access to my devices on my internal network. And you put devices which can listen to your conversations and has a closed-source system. But hey, that's your choice.
@@hufficag Seems like a really cool place to work. Seems like the prices of goods are about the same as the west. Have you tried out any of their cool Domestic cars out there?
@@MickeyMishra Prices of rent, burgers, bottled water, bus tickets, taxis, everything was about 5 times less than the West. A thermometer cost 1.5rmb, the communist factory price. Medicine is cheap, hospital visits are cheap. Currently prices are about the same. It costs $30 to get a filling done in your tooth, or about $100 for a root canal. A motorcycle costs about 10000rmb. I had left mine in Wuxi over the pandemic because like hotel California you could enter Wuxi but not leave. They love control and quarantines. Well now the police took my motorcycle from the parking lot, mine was super fast, about 15000rmb. It doesn't make sense to buy and drive a car, too much hassle. Why live the Western life of finding a parking spot when you can ride up to the restaurant, park right outside the door and walk in? Besides I remember when I was a student all those comedy sketches about Chinese cars with square wheels. Good enough and cheap. I wouldn't mind buying a Lifang or a Wuling or a Qirui just for novelty value, look how cool and cheap this car is, reflective of the pervasive optimism in society in 2008. Unfortunately I don't see the optimism these days, there's nothing fun worth waking up to in the morning. However it's even worse in the West. Unless you're in one of the beautiful European countries.
“Let me get a smart watch and a smart phone and a smart oven in my smart home because I’m a dumb-ass” 💀💀
Even if he was racist it’s freedom of speech he can say what ever he wants around his own home this is messed up
The left is looking to take away freedom of speech and gun rights. Big tech and mainstream media are owned by the leftists, and are going to be weaponized as tools by leftist politicians.
Has amazon commented on why they took a unverified claim and acted as judge jury and executioner base on it?
Love to hear them explain that
Also if true, stop sending drivers
Dont disable this guys house.
Manager at amazon flex/shipping with power trip because of an unverified accusation (all they heard was the automated welcome message as he was walking away so didn't likely hear it correctly) 7:38 timestamp
If you have Alexa you deserve everything that's coming to you!
Louis Rossmann moment
So many of his fans sadly are boot lickers and are ok with it if he said the heckin bad word.
What did rossman do?
@@Ultrajamz huh?
@@LucasImpulse You honestly expect the livestock to explain itself...?
Serioisly... wat
My parents got one and it’s the dumbest shit they’ve ever done.
Imagine being forced to get up to turn on the lights or the tv… scary dystopia
My word on this : "Justice in the hands of the citizens for the common good. Not in the hands of private interests"
Unfortunately I believe it's too late
Well, you are 100 years late, private companies have all the power to do whatever they want, and in other countries even throw governments
In the future if you believe you're speaking with an AI and force it to say the N word to prove its not an AI, you will lose your house. You heard it here first.
The problem is that most people don't even understand the DANGERS of these things... damn :(
Imagine your grandma is having stroke and amazon decides that you are naughty
They do, they are peasants that are too dumb to care.
Ah yes, I already hated smart home stuff and now I hate it even more.
Notice that the homeowner was totally fine with the idea generally, but was bothered that he was falsely accused.
"you cant trust the damn things" thats the most chad thing ive heard today
One stop closer to the "me driving past my local 5G tower when it detects a transphobic comment in my mind" meme becoming reality
lol
I likely already have negative social credits
Ever since the very beginning of the Alexa release all I could think of was the movie Smart House. It was an obscure kids movie where the AI house eventually developed a consciousness and tormented the family by trying to do what was “right” for them. Over the past couple years every day life seems to get closer to imitating art.
I cant belive amazon did anything on behalf of their employees.
WTF? He was an engineer at Microsoft and using Smart Devices!? Boy, he wasn't that smart himself now, wasn't he? If I ever learn one thing in my career as a programmer is to never trust smart devices unless you hack them and replace all its software with what I know and trust. Plus, make sure you run everything as Local as possible. Servers can fail.
Just one step closer to the dystopian nightmare looming over the horizon.
"Alexa, unlock the front door please." -Guy
"I'm sorry, Dave. I'm afraid I can't do that." -Alexa
Soon the fridge will be locked up if there's too much meat in it
He hasn't learned anything. He still thinks amazon should be able to lock you out of all things you've already paid for, because mean words. His gripe was only "I'm innocent, guv!"
How did racism become a thing so severe it gets punished on allegation alone, and then a person has to run around proving innocence?
Technology is a tool, and if you own it, then it should serve you. If it runs on a company’s infrastructure, that doesn’t give them the right to shut all your devices down if your beliefs don’t line up with theirs (whether they’re good or bad) but this is the world we live in, and only a teaser to what’s to come.
My IT techer doesn't like smart homes.
After watching a lot of videos during the last 3 years... I now know more reasons why.
I used to joke about being locked out of my fridge for the things I say in the privacy of my own home, and then my fridge notifying my bank of the things I said, subsequently losing access to my money, but with smart devices, my joke has become a reality!
Mental Outlaw is truly based.
Funny, I watched a Scotty Kilmer video just the other day where a modern Honda Civic battery died and the manual key inside the key fob was actually worthless because the manual slot was wired up too. People put all this faith that products have fail safes built in but it’s all as fragile as the next. Could never imagine adding a powered lock/lock I can’t control on my house.
Exactly. My apartment landlord just imposed that smart lock lunacy on all tenants, previously it was a physical key deadbolt, no power in the agreement for me to change the locks it seems. No redundancy, when it fails, I'm locked out, it doesn't even appear as strong as the old one. They can't lower the rent but can install Orwellian devices in all units, definitely earned their 1 star review once the contract expires.
@@TwistedTammer Oh great, just what you need to happen during a fire is a flame to lick the wrong wire and now you’re trapped. Definitely need to get out of that place my guy.
I can just imagine someone screaming, "You're an oven! Why do you have an opinion?!"
The fact that they lock you out of the service you buy for makes it dead clear never to buy their products.
That was just one company. Now with CBDC, you could lose your access to entire companies. I mean, the government can just disable your money, and without money, no company will serve you.
that already happens, people lose access to payment processing platforms for wrongthink.
@@appalachiabrauchfrau yes, like Nick Fuentes
It’s almost like putting your trust in a power that doesn’t actually care about you as an individual other than what you contribute for them is a bad idea….
2:10 "smart homes and wifes has the same issue: loyalty" LOL this is the open source humor im subscribed for!
Everyone should just stop using this garbage stuff. How hard is it to turn the lights on and off when you enter/leave a room
As an IT engineer, let me tell you it's not smart devices that you should be worried about. It's the smart controllers (hubs). If you want a smart home, use home assistant and only purchase devices that use Z-Wave, zigbee, matter, or Bluetooth. These devices put you in control and there is no way a central entity can turn them off or spy on them.
No no you don't understand a bad guy was locked out of his house! They will never do this to me! Only evil racists
Reminds me of Google shutting down a father's phone line and started a federal investigation because an automated system thought his kid looked too pornographic in a medical photo for his doctor.
I don't get why someone would willingly install spyware in their house.
How long until the US is run by only four companies like South Korea?
I feel like what alexa should do for people who are actually racist instead of locking them out is to haunt the house for a week (messing with ac/heating, lights and tv go out, ect.) But to do that is a futuristic dystopian hell, no matter how much a racist deserves it, there just needs to be more proof before she goes into spooky mode
man that salmon looked good
Ironically, having a dumb house is smarter than having a smart house.
I like the idea of being able to change clothes in my home and know I'm not being spyed on
I believe the day someone makes an open source smart home solution will be the day I implement smart home tech in my home.
so we can dim the lights from a feet away!
Because I’mm… a dumbass 😂😂
He could have said the most racist shit you can possibly imagine, that does not give the right for a company to lock you out of the products _you_ personally bought from them. This is fucking America.
those old wife units had foreign software installed on them through the tv and schools
so sad
Of the things that never happened, this never happened the most!
Even if he were to be racist, not really an excuse to lock him out of using product he fucking paid for. Once again, dystopian future's pretty much here. Shit like this is why i'll learn skills necessary to do things myself instead of buying smart %insert product name here%, and if i ever use anything like that? That'd be only if it's open-source and self-hosted, news like this should be a wake up call for the cattle, but alas.
Keys are useful, never fix a perfectly fine solution.