Am I the only one who misses the transformations from the older versions?they had there own moves and everything now must of them are the same as smash bros
Transformations are cool but they slow down the game way too much. When someone transforms the only thing you can do is run. Thats why in Smash Ultimate everyone has a quick final smash
SSF2 in general has a problem with removing the unique additions they give characters in exchange for parity with the mainline games. Sonic is the best example.
Man this just really highlights the slow loss of ssf2s unique identity over time. Like it's probably the better game now, but so much of the unique and charming elements that gave it a unique identity from other smash fan games has eroded, like unique movesets or revive platforms
I don’t know how many versions it was in, but one version with Fire Mario I played, he could cancel his nair into itself, able to lock the opponent into *insane* damage by just mashing the button. Highly recommend trying it, its wild.
Ay, que tiempos aquellos, cuando los Smash finales de transformación estaban extremadamente rotos, Peach tenía un Smash final que valía la pena, el Smash final de DK seguía siendo igual de inútil, Sora requería un mando de Playstation 2 para hacer su Smash final, y Mario usaba los poderes de Super Mario Bros Z. Por cierto, me di cuenta que en la versión más antigua de Flash 2 los personajes tenían plataformas de respawn estilizadas, que bonito. ¿Crees que podrías hacer un vídeo mostrándolas más detenidamente?
No requería de un mando de ps2, lo que pasa es que te confundía por que los sprites eran botones de ps2 y no sabias cual tecla pulsar porque cada uno la configura a su gusto.
@@Dazhier Lo del crasheo no suena muy favorecedor, a decir verdad. Y aunque se pudiera spamear, imagino que en esa época ya tendría su enorme debilidad con los escenarios con techo.
I remember when I used to play with Naruto his final smash was one of the greatest... seeing all of the old final smashs it reminds me of my childhood...
Super Sonic in v0.9b was debatably the best final smash transformation wise, if not the best in general, because you could “stack” his attacks Essentially if you did his back air and then ran up to someone, the game registers it as if the hitbox is still there because of Super Sonic’s invincibility trait which stuns the opponent upon contact but deals no real damage. So players could just randomly do a forward air and then run up to you and start a combo with ease
Looks like they had so many unqiue assets early on. I played the early one once I think, and I feel like they should have kept some of that stuff, like the unique respawn platforms and some of those final smashes. They have done a good job now as well, but they did not have to unify everything to be like the actual smash bros games, though I think that was their goal
I miss the transformation stats too much. Yeah I understand it’s the balance the game but in reality it’s just kinda boring. Especially for super sonic who’s reduced back into just face planting into opponents again like in the og games. Yes it was unfair having to fight them, but that’s the fun part of it.
I just wanna know what the heck is the point with making everything as similar to smash as possible. We have smash already Theres literally no need to make essentially a lesser version of the game. The older versions of ssf2 were a bit clunky, yeah, but they were far more unique and less obsessed with making things as close to official as possible. I blame pro players essentially complaining about the game not being "tournament worthy" Man let me have my cool crazy nonsense fighting game. I miss megamans old power move set I miss sonics moveset I miss Naruto and Goku actually being good in the dang game!!! Current versions literally just look like "Its the official game! But worse! You're welcome."
Yo ya tenia a Smash Brawl cuando jugaba lo que en aquél tiempo era Smash Flash v0.7 y poco más tarde el 0.8. La razón por la que mi hermano y yo preferíamos Flash era precisamente por las transformaciones. Eran sumamente divertidas. Desde que Flash empezó a imitar al Smash original, se le acabó la escencia que caracterizaba su originalidad. (El set de movimientos de Mega Man era único, e imitaron el de Smash 4 cuando salió). Lo divertido de Flash era eso, que era un juego hecho por las risas. Pero empezaron a balancear todo y querer hacerlo competitivo. Cuando Fiash llegó a la Beta, me pregunté, "¿Por qué querría jugar Flash? Tiene exactamente el mismo set de movimientos y final smashes que el original. Es solo una versión pobre del mismo Smash". Jamás volví a tocarlo. Ahora estoy en Smash Crusade.
Sinceramente extraño las transformaciones como final smash, es lo que lo hacia diferente a smash bros, pueden poner esos movimientos si quieren como ulti de esas transformaciones
@@ZenFanDox it's kind of saddening to be honest. I've watched the game transform from a highly original (albeit very rough) fan work to a squeaky clean version that tries waaay too hard to achieve parity with whatever the newest smash game is at the moment. I still remember versions 0.5a->0.7 when Megaman was a super unique form change/stance character. Sometime around smash 4's release, he was retooled to more closely match the official version. Same with all the other veteran's tbh. A lot of redrawn sprites as opposed to the more visually distinct style of SMW Mario and DS Yoshi. Gba wario & sonic. Etc. I guess that's just what happens when the game is developed for 15 years.
@@dragnjames2190 Yep. This is exactly why I've downloaded versions 0.7 and 0.8. I think the characters are just better to play while being more unique, and also for the nostalgia factor. Don't get me wrong, I like what they've done with the game, but I kinda wish they'd just stuck with the originality.
Imma just be honest when I say I hate how safe they went with the Characters. Instead of being unique and having characters be different with their counterparts they just double downed with making characters the exact same, or almost no difference best examples are Megaman and simon, Bowser(Simon is the worst offender)
Para mi en ves de dejar igual el smash final de wario lo empeoraron es como jugar con wario nomal solo q tiene mas velocidad antes al menos tenias diferente movimiento q podian quedar bien como la moto
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Am I the only one who misses the transformations from the older versions?they had there own moves and everything now must of them are the same as smash bros
Transformations are cool but they slow down the game way too much. When someone transforms the only thing you can do is run. Thats why in Smash Ultimate everyone has a quick final smash
i loved the fire flower mario, i wish they didnt just go with the boring mario finale
SSF2 in general has a problem with removing the unique additions they give characters in exchange for parity with the mainline games. Sonic is the best example.
Nope not alone at all
its super smash flash 2 they should go all out with whatever they want not try to balance the game
I like how in the 8.0b every character gets their own respon platform I wish they kept that in the newest version
Same with me here
Respawn
I swear the the final smashes hit different in Beta than V0.8.
Even though I like the beta most of the final smashes are the same from smash bros ,the old ones where more original
I miss Fire Mario being Final Smash. It was better than Mario Finale.
Agreed 👍
Specially since you could use Mario Finale as Fire Mario anyway, you just needed to charge it
More unique and interesting but sloppier game design tbh
@@ZenFanDox i know but mcleod had to make this game look like smash bros
I think that they can put both
Yeah I remember all these final smashes, though some of the final smashes shouldn’t be changed
Agreed 👍
only veteran remembers donkey kong's game crashing final smash
That's interesting, I had no idea. I have been playing SSF2 since version 0.8
@@ZenFanDox Oh yeah, you should try it! I don't remember but I think its previous versions.
I don't recall that. But i perfectly remember how playing as Zelda or Samus would wreck the entire game
I miss the transformations I would mess around with them for hours.
Crazy to see how far this game has come over the years in every aspect. Nothing but love to the SSF2 TEAM
Goodbye Super Saiyan, Goodbye Bankai.......
at least we have Wario Man and Super Sonic
Lol 😂. Now I want a shonen about that
This Amazing Video Brings Back Memories With Super Sonic!
Man this just really highlights the slow loss of ssf2s unique identity over time. Like it's probably the better game now, but so much of the unique and charming elements that gave it a unique identity from other smash fan games has eroded, like unique movesets or revive platforms
Kinda miss playable super forms honestly, the could’ve kept super sonic, Super saiyan, nine tails all playable
I miss some of those like Peach's old one, it was more original. Most one the new ones are just the Officials in the Smash Flash Style
Is so nostalgic to hear old Tails K.O scream
I don’t know how many versions it was in, but one version with Fire Mario I played, he could cancel his nair into itself, able to lock the opponent into *insane* damage by just mashing the button. Highly recommend trying it, its wild.
Ay, que tiempos aquellos, cuando los Smash finales de transformación estaban extremadamente rotos, Peach tenía un Smash final que valía la pena, el Smash final de DK seguía siendo igual de inútil, Sora requería un mando de Playstation 2 para hacer su Smash final, y Mario usaba los poderes de Super Mario Bros Z.
Por cierto, me di cuenta que en la versión más antigua de Flash 2 los personajes tenían plataformas de respawn estilizadas, que bonito. ¿Crees que podrías hacer un vídeo mostrándolas más detenidamente?
No requería de un mando de ps2, lo que pasa es que te confundía por que los sprites eran botones de ps2 y no sabias cual tecla pulsar porque cada uno la configura a su gusto.
@@sombramistica Ehm. Ese era el chiste.
Inútil el Smash FINAL de DK Men podías spamear el daño y hasta crashear la partida
@@Dazhier Lo del crasheo no suena muy favorecedor, a decir verdad. Y aunque se pudiera spamear, imagino que en esa época ya tendría su enorme debilidad con los escenarios con techo.
@@KatoShimozukari Escenarios con techo? Eso ni existía en la 8b lo más cercano era la de captain falcon o te refieres a las plataformas
I remember when I used to play with Naruto his final smash was one of the greatest... seeing all of the old final smashs it reminds me of my childhood...
I really want the transformations for goku sonic and naruto to come back
We all want that
I feel like they could’ve benefited a lot by letting us have the option to choose between new and old final smashes
Ong. Like Ultra Select.
why tf did they change peach's final smash from peach beam to that lame ass smash original peach blossom
to be more like the original Smash Bros games
I prefer the older one too, though i don't know who are those star-characters or even what is the inspiration for it
Super Sonic in v0.9b was debatably the best final smash transformation wise, if not the best in general, because you could “stack” his attacks
Essentially if you did his back air and then ran up to someone, the game registers it as if the hitbox is still there because of Super Sonic’s invincibility trait which stuns the opponent upon contact but deals no real damage. So players could just randomly do a forward air and then run up to you and start a combo with ease
Looks like they had so many unqiue assets early on. I played the early one once I think, and I feel like they should have kept some of that stuff, like the unique respawn platforms and some of those final smashes. They have done a good job now as well, but they did not have to unify everything to be like the actual smash bros games, though I think that was their goal
I miss the transformation stats too much. Yeah I understand it’s the balance the game but in reality it’s just kinda boring. Especially for super sonic who’s reduced back into just face planting into opponents again like in the og games.
Yes it was unfair having to fight them, but that’s the fun part of it.
What is the latest version when transformations still existed? (When it was not just super attack)
siempre siento que la versión 0.8 tiene algo especial
La nostalgia...de cuando éramos más felices
Que nostalgia que me traen las primeras versiones del juego
1:23 Goku: See ya!
See ya!!
0:20
Una lástima dejaron de poner esto, les daba mucha personalidad y eran muy creativos 😿
Goku's spirit bomb is broken that you can attack your opponent while they're caught in it 😮
I just wanna know what the heck is the point with making everything as similar to smash as possible.
We have smash already
Theres literally no need to make essentially a lesser version of the game.
The older versions of ssf2 were a bit clunky, yeah, but they were far more unique and less obsessed with making things as close to official as possible.
I blame pro players essentially complaining about the game not being "tournament worthy"
Man let me have my cool crazy nonsense fighting game.
I miss megamans old power move set
I miss sonics moveset
I miss Naruto and Goku actually being good in the dang game!!!
Current versions literally just look like "Its the official game! But worse! You're welcome."
Yo ya tenia a Smash Brawl cuando jugaba lo que en aquél tiempo era Smash Flash v0.7 y poco más tarde el 0.8.
La razón por la que mi hermano y yo preferíamos Flash era precisamente por las transformaciones. Eran sumamente divertidas.
Desde que Flash empezó a imitar al Smash original, se le acabó la escencia que caracterizaba su originalidad.
(El set de movimientos de Mega Man era único, e imitaron el de Smash 4 cuando salió). Lo divertido de Flash era eso, que era un juego hecho por las risas. Pero empezaron a balancear todo y querer hacerlo competitivo.
Cuando Fiash llegó a la Beta, me pregunté, "¿Por qué querría jugar Flash? Tiene exactamente el mismo set de movimientos y final smashes que el original. Es solo una versión pobre del mismo Smash". Jamás volví a tocarlo.
Ahora estoy en Smash Crusade.
5:32
ichigo: *N U G G E T S* ( thats what i hear)
Is that what you hear was ichigo's saying nuggets or mugetsu?
They did Naruto so dirty 😭😭😭
Goku final smash is so cool!
goku's final smash is lit! 🔥
I remember specifically going to the older versions because of how much i wated to play as controllable super sonic
2:52 miss it
Sinceramente extraño las transformaciones como final smash, es lo que lo hacia diferente a smash bros, pueden poner esos movimientos si quieren como ulti de esas transformaciones
Pero es que ellos buscan la fidelidad al juego original
Always main Goat-ku
Ty for staring with Goku
I miss this game.. Super Smash Flash. Making a 1v3 was so funny until flash died
SSF2 is still playable if you download it.
el de mario en las verciones antiguas son mis favoritas ya que es MUY ORIGINAL
sinceramente me gustaba mas los que se podian controlar, eran mas dinamicos
el de mario era mi favorito.
Si, le añadían interacción y por ende más diversión
@@ZenFanDox amigo me acuerdo poner todo un team de cpus level 9 contra mi y yo usando los smashes finales xddd
@@LidoZeta xddd eso sí era épico
Idk why they changed most of tgem to be just like the ones from smash bros. Like let some personality shine yn?
The SSF2 devs have an increasing tendency to make the game as similar as possible to the official Smash Bros games.
@@ZenFanDox it's kind of saddening to be honest. I've watched the game transform from a highly original (albeit very rough) fan work to a squeaky clean version that tries waaay too hard to achieve parity with whatever the newest smash game is at the moment.
I still remember versions 0.5a->0.7 when Megaman was a super unique form change/stance character. Sometime around smash 4's release, he was retooled to more closely match the official version.
Same with all the other veteran's tbh. A lot of redrawn sprites as opposed to the more visually distinct style of SMW Mario and DS Yoshi. Gba wario & sonic. Etc.
I guess that's just what happens when the game is developed for 15 years.
@@dragnjames2190 Yep. This is exactly why I've downloaded versions 0.7 and 0.8. I think the characters are just better to play while being more unique, and also for the nostalgia factor. Don't get me wrong, I like what they've done with the game, but I kinda wish they'd just stuck with the originality.
Imma just be honest when I say I hate how safe they went with the Characters. Instead of being unique and having characters be different with their counterparts they just double downed with making characters the exact same, or almost no difference best examples are Megaman and simon, Bowser(Simon is the worst offender)
The old smashes scared me
Para mi en ves de dejar igual el smash final de wario lo empeoraron es como jugar con wario nomal solo q tiene mas velocidad antes al menos tenias diferente movimiento q podian quedar bien como la moto
Me gustaban más los final smashes viejos
X2
How do you do Sora's final smash in v.08?
I feel old
Me too
Fire mario became a costume instead of a transformation in ssf2
Holly sheet!!! Goku has a blue hair!!
I don't like some Final Smash from the latest version, I miss the transformations
menor creatividad (en especial en las transformaciones que quitaron) por el triple de calidad
Por que la intención es ser lo mas fiel posible al juego original bruh
Transformations were Better
Yeah 😔
The video pisses me off more and more as it goes. They massacred so many of these final smashes
Buen video
donkey needs a resprite
what is mega man v0.8 final smash
La 0.8b fue la mejor version para mi
I prefer the old final smashed to be honest
Where Luffy
This video shows how the Final Smashes of version 0.8 have evolved. Luffy was added in later versions
@@ZenFanDox ok
I have my Super smash Flash 2 beta 1.3.1.2.
16:27
16:29
What?
Bros nerfearo demasiado los smash del la primera versión
I love ur vid bro but we will all know this peach is trash
ichigo bankai was insane
Yeah