And make sure there is no corrosion at the connection point between the rod or underground water pipe and the connecting wire clamp. Also a whole house surge protector is a good idea.
I run a “Ground” or earth cable connected to a secondary copper earth rod outside on every piece of equipment I run. Mickey’s dead on with this advice 🍻
I am about to run a separate MC cable to a new outlet in my house and be on a 20A breaker. Separate ground and ground rod for it. No more sizzle sound from old grounding for my modeler. Hope it helps
Small correction: Those wiring check devices that you plug into a wall outlet make sure that the hot wire is the hot, the neutral is the neutral, and that the ground has continuity with the neutral (usually 3 lights). If buildings are wired according to code, the neutral wire (current return path, usually the white wire) and the ground wire in your outlets are connected together in the main panel, they're not supposed to be connected to each other in branch/sub panels. This doesn't tell you ANYTHING about the quality of the main panel grounding to earth (ground rods) or grounding to your plumbing. Those testers will show you that everything is correct with or without earth grounding or plumbing grounding. Those devices cannot check that.
Yes, these cheap device are a good starting point to check if the wall outlets was wired properly in the house. For checking quality of the ground quality of the wall outlets... Can this be done with voltmeter? We can a check visually as mentioned with connection of grounding rod, but they could be issues somewhere else. How can we check to make sure we are all good?
Great Advice. I design and build my own DYI analog audio "add-ons" for my system and also build power amps. It's important to implement a HQ single point "star ground" node in your audio system. This should be bonded to "earth" ground and one point and one point only. Too many ground connections in an audio system will produce "ground loops" and result in excessive hum and noise.
Mikey what happened to you? Keeping your Wednesday shows on for 24 hours I had to work afternoon shift for these last two weeks and I was looking forward to seeing your show when I come home at midnight.
Last show I cursed a troll out pretty good. I don't like to keep those up because I think it may be a little too much for people don't like vulgarity... plus I don't like coming unglued at assholes. I've got a new plan moving forward which will allow me to keep them up. So please bear with me till next week
I thought that might be the reason you took it off the air. It might be good for you to get it off your chest once in a while instead of keeping it bottled up inside I'm sure your fans would hate to see you get sick physical or mentally by keeping it bottled up by watching your show, you can see how passionate you are by telling the hi-fi Community of the shady part of the business and most of us believe you because your still up front by telling us, you're a dealer.
As a registered NZ sparky we have to measure the resistance between the ground peg and a meter probe inserted into the ground.We are only allowed to run additional earth pegs in series only with the earth terminated at the earth bar in the main distribution board. I recommend to people who think they have earthing issues to first check earth connections after turning off main distribution board power first and then soaking ground with water around earth pegs if soil is dry.
@@OCDHIFiGuy I used to know an extra OG who worked for Boeing back in the day as an Electrical Engineer when most of the electronics were run by vacuum tubes.Great stories,one of them was the effort they went to for earthing,burying large areas of metal grid in the ground.
Most homes built before the 80's didnt have them. The plumbing was all metal pipes before then, and had long runs off the house. When PVC plumbing became the norm is when a grounding rod or grounding electrodes started becoming more common. I dont think it was until the 90's though that it bacame mandatory in my state. My statements are just what i remember reading some time ago.
Thanks for the idea! I live in an old apartment building in San Francisco and have my doubts about this. Can I drive a metal rod into the ground, and run a wire down to it?
All metal parts shall be bonded to ground. New houses have a concrete uffer or rebar for proper grounding, old houses often need two ground rods when the panel has been upgraded. Also all detached buildings such as shops with power need two ground rods outside and all metal piping going into it to have equal ground potential. Also if the siding is metal it needs to be bonded. There you go in a nut shell without throwing NEC code articles at you. Never use the grounding conductor as a neutral either, its only there to facilitate a low impedance path of a fault to ground in order to trip the over current protection knows as a breaker. ;)
Hello Mike,i do not know how it is connected in the USA but here in Holland the 0 is connected to the ground earth through whole the Netherlands,so if i connect my system to the ground earth it sounds like shit. Can there be a ground loop in my gear?
I also use greenwave EMI suppressors. LED lights and switching power supplies create a lot noise, which can be measured and treated. This is especially useful if you can hear your neighbors radio coming through your speakers.
1:52 zero volt reference. for digital. ut seems to reference 0 more critically . and behaves like a single point source for the entire signal….this could affect the soundtage if it does not reference that 0 / point source properly electrically. mostly could introduce jitter.
Grounds, grounding, ground loops, .... can be such an horrible problem. Tricky to fix. With all the ways each piece of hardware is connected to every other one's ground! AC cord, line level cables, chassis ground connectors, ... and not only hum, but all the way up to RF. a bad RCA ground connection can literally act like a cat's whisker detector and inject RF into the signal path. Dissimilar metals used for connectors.
Hi mike I see my ground rod out side it looks like it's all conected but say it's not is it ok to just go touching it iti s it live should power be off before I put a metal screwdriver anywear near the wire to reattach it .
I live in a condo. I'm looking to make my own OCD grounding box but i'm having trouble finding the mix of ingredients on the internet ;( . Come on mikey spill the beans!! :D
your earth grounds outside arnt to standards.the top should be buried underneath the ground ,usually underneath a ground box.reason is ,if that becomes live ,you can get shocked if touched.
Ground "enhancement" devices are just nonsense which very often intentionally introduce ground loops and other grounding issues. If you really want to learn how to properly ground your system and gear read up on Bill Whitlock and Bruno Putzeys. You can find numerous papers and presentations from them regarding grounding. Do it properly and you won't have to think about it again. Bill has dealt with grounding and AC cable issues in large concert halls lowering the noise floor of all the gear in the building.
I chose other guys, but yes, read up on it if you have the time and are interested. Ground works. No matter what you call it. I've heard the magic boxes totally work...
If we as an audio community continue to use and reference the low quality solutions that are prehistoric and stone age and comparatively barely effective all of you will continue to throw good money and effort after bad only to achieve the mediocrity so often portrayed as high end by so many of the uninformed influencers. It is hard to believe there are so many gullible lemmings who strive for mediocrity as a badge of honor
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And make sure there is no corrosion at the connection point between the rod or underground water pipe and the connecting wire clamp.
Also a whole house surge protector is a good idea.
I'm going to try this tomorrow.
I run a “Ground” or earth cable connected to a secondary copper earth rod outside on every piece of equipment I run. Mickey’s dead on with this advice 🍻
There you go... that's the OCD level...
That’s dedication!
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I am about to run a separate MC cable to a new outlet in my house and be on a 20A breaker. Separate ground and ground rod for it. No more sizzle sound from old grounding for my modeler. Hope it helps
Excellent lecture, and practical advice on grounding. Thank you, Mikey.🔉🎵🎶
Thanks for the advice Mikey, I had no idea so it's always welcome and appreciated🙏
No worries!
Even better, put a ferrit core on your house ground whire, by its first connection in your main board.
Problem is the ground often contributes feeding dirt into the system too since it's shared with everything else in your home.
Small correction:
Those wiring check devices that you plug into a wall outlet make sure that the hot wire is the hot, the neutral is the neutral, and that the ground has continuity with the neutral (usually 3 lights).
If buildings are wired according to code, the neutral wire (current return path, usually the white wire) and the ground wire in your outlets are connected together in the main panel, they're not supposed to be connected to each other in branch/sub panels. This doesn't tell you ANYTHING about the quality of the main panel grounding to earth (ground rods) or grounding to your plumbing.
Those testers will show you that everything is correct with or without earth grounding or plumbing grounding. Those devices cannot check that.
OK so they check for correct phase only. So much for cheap Home Depot bullshit
Yes, these cheap device are a good starting point to check if the wall outlets was wired properly in the house. For checking quality of the ground quality of the wall outlets... Can this be done with voltmeter? We can a check visually as mentioned with connection of grounding rod, but they could be issues somewhere else. How can we check to make sure we are all good?
I live in an apartment, and it was easy to check the ground outside
Bonus.
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For sure
Great Advice. I design and build my own DYI analog audio "add-ons" for my system and also build power amps.
It's important to implement a HQ single point "star ground" node in your audio system.
This should be bonded to "earth" ground and one point and one point only.
Too many ground connections in an audio system will produce "ground loops" and result in excessive hum and noise.
Well said! That's it..
Mikey what happened to you? Keeping your Wednesday shows on for 24 hours I had to work afternoon shift for these last two weeks and I was looking forward to seeing your show when I come home at midnight.
Last show I cursed a troll out pretty good. I don't like to keep those up because I think it may be a little too much for people don't like vulgarity... plus I don't like coming unglued at assholes. I've got a new plan moving forward which will allow me to keep them up. So please bear with me till next week
I thought that might be the reason you took it off the air. It might be good for you to get it off your chest once in a while instead of keeping it bottled up inside I'm sure your fans would hate to see you get sick physical or mentally by keeping it bottled up by watching your show, you can see how passionate you are by telling the hi-fi Community of the shady part of the business and most of us believe you because your still up front by telling us, you're a dealer.
Grounding in Canada is a rod going in the ground in the basement close to the breaker box. (So deeper)
Cool
Puritan audio sells the "Ground Master City" does it perform as the Ground Master normal ? Have you test it ?
Thanks for the answer.
Different purpose. I have not tried "city"
Had no idea will look today thank you
Happy to help !
As a registered NZ sparky we have to measure the resistance between the ground peg and a meter probe inserted into the ground.We are only allowed to run additional earth pegs in series only with the earth terminated at the earth bar in the main distribution board. I recommend to people who think they have earthing issues to first check earth connections after turning off main distribution board power first and then soaking ground with water around earth pegs if soil is dry.
Yes, you can also buy special concrete that stays wet of you live in the desert. We don't have dryness issues where I live however.
@@OCDHIFiGuy I used to know an extra OG who worked for Boeing back in the day as an Electrical Engineer when most of the electronics were run by vacuum tubes.Great stories,one of them was the effort they went to for earthing,burying large areas of metal grid in the ground.
Most homes built before the 80's didnt have them. The plumbing was all metal pipes before then, and had long runs off the house. When PVC plumbing became the norm is when a grounding rod or grounding electrodes started becoming more common. I dont think it was until the 90's though that it bacame mandatory in my state. My statements are just what i remember reading some time ago.
Thanks for the idea! I live in an old apartment building in San Francisco and have my doubts about this. Can I drive a metal rod into the ground, and run a wire down to it?
Yes, absolutely..headed to SF in 48 hours
@@OCDHIFiGuy Just to fix my stereo hum? How thoughtful of you!
All metal parts shall be bonded to ground. New houses have a concrete uffer or rebar for proper grounding, old houses often need two ground rods when the panel has been upgraded. Also all detached buildings such as shops with power need two ground rods outside and all metal piping going into it to have equal ground potential. Also if the siding is metal it needs to be bonded. There you go in a nut shell without throwing NEC code articles at you. Never use the grounding conductor as a neutral either, its only there to facilitate a low impedance path of a fault to ground in order to trip the over current protection knows as a breaker. ;)
Been thinking about ground lately along with house electrical power wiring.
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Hello Mike,i do not know how it is connected in the USA but here in Holland the 0 is connected to the ground earth through whole the Netherlands,so if i connect my system to the ground earth it sounds like shit.
Can there be a ground loop in my gear?
NO ground for me. Isolation transformer and battery power supply.
Yeah, I don't go to that church...
I also use greenwave EMI suppressors. LED lights and switching power supplies create a lot noise, which can be measured and treated. This is especially useful if you can hear your neighbors radio coming through your speakers.
Lol. Neighbors radio in my speakers ? Where do you live ??
The EMI suppressors you refer to are junk grade performance but passable for a low fi setup
@@davidcross890 Lol
1:52 zero volt reference. for digital. ut seems to reference 0 more critically . and behaves like a single point source for the entire signal….this could affect the soundtage if it does not reference that 0 / point source properly electrically. mostly could introduce jitter.
Grounds, grounding, ground loops, .... can be such an horrible problem. Tricky to fix. With all the ways each piece of hardware is connected to every other one's ground! AC cord, line level cables, chassis ground connectors, ... and not only hum, but all the way up to RF. a bad RCA ground connection can literally act like a cat's whisker detector and inject RF into the signal path. Dissimilar metals used for connectors.
Why I use XLR
@@OCDHIFiGuy Grounded on one end?
Hi mike I see my ground rod out side it looks like it's all conected but say it's not is it ok to just go touching it iti s it live should power be off before I put a metal screwdriver anywear near the wire to reattach it .
Under normal circumstances, it's not live. I can not, however, give you electrical system advice as I'm not licensed to do so.
Purchase a Klein Tools RT110 Receptacle Tester to check the connectors.
Thanks for the part #
I live in a condo. I'm looking to make my own OCD grounding box but i'm having trouble finding the mix of ingredients on the internet ;( . Come on mikey spill the beans!! :D
Silicon Carbide, crushed Quartz, Tourmaline
Free advice
Is really expensive
Lol. There's a Tshirt idea..
your earth grounds outside arnt to standards.the top should be buried underneath the ground ,usually underneath a ground box.reason is ,if that becomes live ,you can get shocked if touched.
That one was uncovered on purpose. Did you see any others ?
I hate it when my rod gets loose
You love it, and its the wire not the rod that gets loose.. lol
Ground "enhancement" devices are just nonsense which very often intentionally introduce ground loops and other grounding issues. If you really want to learn how to properly ground your system and gear read up on Bill Whitlock and Bruno Putzeys. You can find numerous papers and presentations from them regarding grounding. Do it properly and you won't have to think about it again. Bill has dealt with grounding and AC cable issues in large concert halls lowering the noise floor of all the gear in the building.
I chose other guys, but yes, read up on it if you have the time and are interested. Ground works. No matter what you call it. I've heard the magic boxes totally work...
If we as an audio community continue to use and reference the low quality solutions that are prehistoric and stone age and comparatively barely effective all of you will continue to throw good money and effort after bad only to achieve the mediocrity so often portrayed as high end by so many of the uninformed influencers.
It is hard to believe there are so many gullible lemmings who strive for mediocrity as a badge of honor