I have a 1977 85hp ...with the twin outside lift rams ....I love it got the motor cheap ...replaced a coil and rectifier and water pump and she screams ...and for a big 2 stroke ..is surprisingly quiet when at idle
Nice looking engine, thank you for the still pictures of the power trim set up, decided to add this feature to my out board, now to find vintage parts.
Hi Brandon - Need some advice and you seem to know quite a bit about these old Johnson Motors. I have a 1975 115hp (115ESL75), came with the boat I'm restoring, similar to the one in this video it also has the original tilt/trim system on it. The motors exterior is a bit beet up from sitting in a mates paddock for a number of years but seems mechanically fine. The tilt/trim system on the other hand looks like it may need a rebuild. Do you know if there is a seal/o-ring kit for these? Can't seem to fine anything listed in the service manual I picked up for it. Any advice on what to use would be greatly appreciated.
I have this on my 1976 135 Johnson seahorse. One of the rams has a leak at the bottom. Do you have a video that explains how the tilt system works and how to go about taking it apart to repair or replace parts?
A very informative video about the Prestolite. I recently acquired oner that looks very similar. Although it's in ruff shape I'd like to get it going without breaking my budget. The problem is that I'm have no way to test it to see iif it works. The wires are corroded, and the former owner used rubber sealant over to fix leaks. Does this unit use only the starboard side one cylinder to raise and lower? I noticed the port side cylinder has no oil lines attached, is it only for support? Keep up them good videos!
My johnson 140 v4 has auto trim. Can we bypass it so I can adjust my trim so I can gain more speed? Mines go all the way down and locks it so I cant adjust at WOT. :(
Mine won’t go all the way up. Also after reaching highest point that it will currently go (75 percent up) it starts to drop slowly in small increments taking 10-15 min to lower most of way while resting. 1975 Evinrude 85hp. What fluid ? Also, what is process for bleeding or servicing ? Thanks
Got a 76 75hp stinger with similar setup. Mines got the metal bracket with 2 lift cylinders on it plus the 2 lift assist cylinders in the middle bracket. More moving parts than id like to have! Would rather have single ram like on newer style power trim
Love all the videos: Are you going to do a video that covers Tilt Aid/Assist in these 70/80s style Outboard’s (Evinrude/Johnson). I’ve bought a 40hp Johnson 1985 with remote control real cheap, but needs tilt assist sorting. Thanks 👍
I have a 76 Johnson 115hp outboard cant find nothing on trim, dont know if its fixed, I wouldnt think so, but where it's set now it preformed well, just nothing I can find on these
I know this is old video but would this pump work on a CMC tilt unit that has the separated pump and cylinder? Does anyone know the thread size of the fittings on this style pump?
Can this motor go up without using the lift motor on this particular Johnson 85hp motor? My dad has one and his lift pump needs work and would like to take it out but he can’t. Hangs down too low! So any info would be helpful. Thanks.
Hello I just put a 115 Avenue on my boat with this power trip on it it's a 1977 motor I was wondering if you have information as to where those wires for the motor plug in to because I'm kind of struggling to see how I'm supposed to wire it up
I have a 85hp ,and the previous owner took it off , why would people remove them . I see someone else commented about it. . And where can I find a replacement
id like some info on that tilt unit,,i have one on my 115,drive motor is destroyed/missing off the top of pump/resivour,,drive motor model/part number ect
can you show how you wired it? a diagram perhaps i have a power trim unit that is similar with a 4 prong connect 3 neutral wires and a positive im just wondering how you wire it to make the trim unit functional?
1975 70hp yours looks close to mine same color an everything what color is the original engine cover you have it can to tell me the difference in mine which was rebuilt everything looks very close but a few different areas not sure if my motor will go up an down like yours
I have that same motor on a cobia sportster, cant find no info on it, it runs amazing, see actuator for trim, the pin is on 3d hole, for this to work needs to pull pin I guess?
Same question; did you figure out the answer? Thank you in advance! Our trim motor works fine but the outboard doesn't move (we have to have the tilt motor running then manually lift or drop the motor ourselves)
I have the same motor I'm sure it has a trim tab motor on it but I cant find switch, motor runs like a scalded dog without adjusting trim, but feel it could go faster adjusting, 115hp Johnson 2 stroke
I have a vintage 135 Johnson that looks like it has the same tilt trim setup on it mine goes up super slow and once I get it up it will seep down and if I have it tilted while under lower going towards the bank or something too much throttle just shoves it all the way down none of my other outboard motors have don't that anyone finds or custom builds replacement from scratch get ahold of me please and thank you
I have an 1978 Evinrude 115. It has a 3 wire tilt motor, want to test it out. Can I connect it straight to battery just to test it out or do I need to rig it to a relay box first. I have researched a bit but not real sure. Thanks.
@@DuctTapes78 funny, just now getting to it this weekend. Got the wires disconnected from my relay box last week and will try it out using just the battery, thanks. If the tilt motor goes ok, then onto the outboard 115 motor.
I need a complete power trim/ tilt system for a 1984 2cyl 50hp Evinrude, for a tight budget price. Do you have one, or know someone who has one for sale? Thanks!
I have this exact unit. Two questions . My original completely went out . I found a used one but it bleeds down quite quickly . Question 1 - I found a new one so how do I fill it for the first time . Question 2- Since this is a tilt only , how do I set the trim , is there suppose to be a pin trough the holes on the mount? If so do you know the part number ?
I have the same unit, and same question about how to fill it. The knurled nut on the side of the pump housing is the fill cap. Most people seem to use dex III transmission fluid in them. But I'm not sure how much or if the power piston needs to be extended or retracted to fill. Let me know if you find out. As far as trim, the transom bracket should have a series of holes and a rod that passes through to set the trim. This unit will not hold the engine by itself in a trim position. Part number 0383568 should be the retainer rod that slides into the holes. I'm assuming your engine is from the 1960's, so not certain if they changed the part in later years.
@@eperot We've got a 68 Starflite 100, lift stopped lifting last year. Doing our pre-use spring maintenance this weekend and that was exactly the info I needed. Kind of thought it would be that one as opposed to the actual screw higher up. (it's a reservoir, should be near the bottom, right, lol!) Anyway, thanks for the year-old confirmation!
I have a 1976 johnson seens like the same outboard in this video. The problem is that when i turn it on. Water start to come out of the carburetor and the motor dies. Can you help me please
I have this exact unit on my 1961 whaler.. just purchased the whaler. The tilt worked the first time I used it, but now, when I hold it to tilt "up," the motor doesn't move.. I have to lift it manually while the switch is in the "up" position. Then it'll stay up, and when I push down, it goes down.. fast. I've tried unscrewing the little hand screw on the tilt motor and putting new tilt/trim fluid in it (which honestly seems very thin for the job, but while I am experienced with small engines, I'm new to boating and all its gear).. but it basically just dumps right out, and doesn't work any better. I've tried putting fluid in til it overflows, moving the engine up and down (manually up, coz it doesn't go up on its own).. add more fluid (flows out almost immediately again).. up and down.. no dice. The thing seems to be getting good power, it just doesn't lift the engine... any ideas? Took me a while to find a video with this tilter in it!! Thanks!!
I just bout a 1985 50HP with this setup on it. Missing relays switches etc... If anybody has any info articles videos about this set up I would appreciate if you could share it. Its super super clean. The guy I bought it from says he thought it was after market.
@@BrandonsGarage No.Its still on the pallet but so far it just has the wire harness coming from the motor. I see nothing in the parts list that this motor has this? I have seen these before but never put much thought into it. But its super clean as is the motor. zero corrosion. Would like to find a parts list for it. From the comments you generated alot of interest in this setup. Thanks
@@BrandonsGarage i have a 75 70 hp . tilt just stopped going up but it will go down. cylinder covered with old hydraulic fluid. do you think the cylinder just needs to be rebuilt? or could the motor be going out and only have the power to go down?
I have a motor that look like that one. Im looking for the tilt and trim motor pump that's sitting on the right side on your video. Im not sure what year my motor is but my trim reservoir haa 3 bolt holes and 3 wires. Do you know of anyone that may sale the tilt and trim motor?
@@BrandonsGarage hi Brandon, would you happen to have the model number for that motor? Mine just started going out and it shows its age enough to where i can't find the part number or anything. Thanks in advance
Much faster do you need that motor to come up? Any faster and it's going to be sitting inside the boat. There's a reason that that motor is still around because that is an american-made motor made with American aluminum and steel buying American with quality control. It's not assembled by mr. Ping Ping in China with inferior crap.
I have a 1977 85hp ...with the twin outside lift rams ....I love it got the motor cheap ...replaced a coil and rectifier and water pump and she screams ...and for a big 2 stroke ..is surprisingly quiet when at idle
Hey brother. I have the same one. The problem is the middle part jammed. Is it supposed to go up and down easily?
Nice looking engine, thank you for the still pictures of the power trim set up, decided to add this feature to my out board, now to find vintage parts.
Ps mine is a 1985 60hp . Same design though .
Hi Brandon - Need some advice and you seem to know quite a bit about these old Johnson Motors. I have a 1975 115hp (115ESL75), came with the boat I'm restoring, similar to the one in this video it also has the original tilt/trim system on it. The motors exterior is a bit beet up from sitting in a mates paddock for a number of years but seems mechanically fine. The tilt/trim system on the other hand looks like it may need a rebuild.
Do you know if there is a seal/o-ring kit for these? Can't seem to fine anything listed in the service manual I picked up for it. Any advice on what to use would be greatly appreciated.
I have this on my 1976 135 Johnson seahorse. One of the rams has a leak at the bottom. Do you have a video that explains how the tilt system works and how to go about taking it apart to repair or replace parts?
A very informative video about the Prestolite. I recently acquired oner that looks very similar. Although it's in ruff shape I'd like to get it going without breaking my budget. The problem is that I'm have no way to test it to see iif it works. The wires are corroded, and the former owner used rubber sealant over to fix leaks. Does this unit use only the starboard side one cylinder to raise and lower?
I noticed the port side cylinder has no oil lines attached, is it only for support? Keep up them good videos!
My johnson 140 v4 has auto trim. Can we bypass it so I can adjust my trim so I can gain more speed? Mines go all the way down and locks it so I cant adjust at WOT. :(
What is the size of the hydraulic, not the piston from the bottom hole to the top of cylinder before piston comes out
Mine won’t go all the way up. Also after reaching highest point that it will currently go (75 percent up) it starts to drop slowly in small increments taking 10-15 min to lower most of way while resting. 1975 Evinrude 85hp. What fluid ? Also, what is process for bleeding or servicing ? Thanks
Hi Brandon ! I have a 55hp Evinrude 1979 and it doesn't have a tilt trim on it do you know if one can be fitted to it ?
I have a 65ESL73R and missing this tilt unit nit. Now it till up and down by my hand. Where can I find the tilt unit to complete my engine?
Got a 76 75hp stinger with similar setup. Mines got the metal bracket with 2 lift cylinders on it plus the 2 lift assist cylinders in the middle bracket. More moving parts than id like to have! Would rather have single ram like on newer style power trim
i think those middle cylinders are shock absorbers.
Love all the videos: Are you going to do a video that covers Tilt Aid/Assist in these 70/80s style Outboard’s (Evinrude/Johnson). I’ve bought a 40hp Johnson 1985 with remote control real cheap, but needs tilt assist sorting. Thanks 👍
I have a 76 Johnson 115hp outboard cant find nothing on trim, dont know if its fixed, I wouldnt think so, but where it's set now it preformed well, just nothing I can find on these
I know this is old video but would this pump work on a CMC tilt unit that has the separated pump and cylinder? Does anyone know the thread size of the fittings on this style pump?
Do you have this tilt system still. I have a 1977 Evinrude 85 and the previous owner took it off. I need this whole tilt set up.
What year motor is this? Looking to add at least power tilt to one like it
I have this the only thing thats missing is the hydrolic pump? Or the cylinder on the side is there replacements for those nowdays ?
I got 1984 evinrude 115 hp powers up but don’t hold like you let off a jack slowly goes down is it seals or something else
Can this motor go up without using the lift motor on this particular Johnson 85hp motor? My dad has one and his lift pump needs work and would like to take it out but he can’t. Hangs down too low! So any info would be helpful. Thanks.
What would you put the value on a 1969V 115 Hydroelectric Dr. and running condition?
I have a Evinrude 1984 115 hp can I put dot 3 brake fluid in the power trim
Hello I just put a 115 Avenue on my boat with this power trip on it it's a 1977 motor I was wondering if you have information as to where those wires for the motor plug in to because I'm kind of struggling to see how I'm supposed to wire it up
Hey I have this exact motor and have a small problem with the power trim. Would you be able to help me with mine?
Do you know where to get the trim motor like you have in the video?
In your video regarding the Vintage Power Tilt Unit, I have this same Johnson motor. Where is the trim sensor located?
Hello I think I have the exact same motor but I don’t see any wires on my pump . Trying to figure out how to tilt my motor?
I have a 85hp ,and the previous owner took it off , why would people remove them . I see someone else commented about it. . And where can I find a replacement
Can you find parts for the trim unit itself I have a leaky assist shock can't find them anywhere
Hey bro,
Great information.
Does this things has manual screw for nit running motor?
Cheers😅
Can u tell where I can fill cap is at on the tilt n trim
I need a rebuilt cylinder for my '72 100hp. Anyone know where I can get one of those?
id like some info on that tilt unit,,i have one on my 115,drive motor is destroyed/missing off the top of pump/resivour,,drive motor model/part number ect
I believe i have the same motor was wondering where the manual trim screw is?
can you show how you wired it? a diagram perhaps i have a power trim unit that is similar with a 4 prong connect 3 neutral wires and a positive im just wondering how you wire it to make the trim unit functional?
I wish you would go over the electrical connection part of the Trim Tilt to the battery switch etc in much more detail.
Black for ground (negative)
Green for grass (down)
Blue for sky (up)
@@Br3no94 why does mine have a red one
1975 70hp yours looks close to mine same color an everything what color is the original engine cover you have it can to tell me the difference in mine which was rebuilt everything looks very close but a few different areas not sure if my motor will go up an down like yours
I just bought a boat with this exact trim on it. Do you know anywhere I can find parts or find one I can replace the motor with?
Does this motor lock in the down position
I have that same motor on a cobia sportster, cant find no info on it, it runs amazing, see actuator for trim, the pin is on 3d hole, for this to work needs to pull pin I guess?
That tilt setup would look good on my 1975 115hp.
Dan I’ve got a 1977 115, great engine
How you you add fluid for tilt ?
where did you connect the wire
Do you know where to get a replacement motor for this tilt/trim setup? Thank you.
Hey I have a 65 Evinrude Starflite which looks identical to what you have here what are some fluid options for this tilt motor?
Same question; did you figure out the answer? Thank you in advance! Our trim motor works fine but the outboard doesn't move (we have to have the tilt motor running then manually lift or drop the motor ourselves)
I have a 75 evinrude trying to replace it. Can i just get a newerr evinrude tilt trim on my motor im new at this haha
I have the same motor I'm sure it has a trim tab motor on it but I cant find switch, motor runs like a scalded dog without adjusting trim, but feel it could go faster adjusting, 115hp Johnson 2 stroke
Where can I find a middle cylinder like that ?
Would love to find a power trim kit to add to my motor
I have a vintage 135 Johnson that looks like it has the same tilt trim setup on it mine goes up super slow and once I get it up it will seep down and if I have it tilted while under lower going towards the bank or something too much throttle just shoves it all the way down none of my other outboard motors have don't that anyone finds or custom builds replacement from scratch get ahold of me please and thank you
Do you still have this engine!
I need that tilt and trim motor Any one know what site I can look on to find it please any help will be big help ty
I have an 1978 Evinrude 115. It has a 3 wire tilt motor, want to test it out. Can I connect it straight to battery just to test it out or do I need to rig it to a relay box first. I have researched a bit but not real sure. Thanks.
Straight to the battery
@@DuctTapes78 funny, just now getting to it this weekend. Got the wires disconnected from my relay box last week and will try it out using just the battery, thanks.
If the tilt motor goes ok, then onto the outboard 115 motor.
I need a complete power trim/ tilt system for a 1984 2cyl 50hp Evinrude, for a tight budget price. Do you have one, or know someone who has one for sale? Thanks!
where can i get this relay kit. I have the same motor but the tnt wires were cut
You can make it
Is it possible to trim while cruising along with this style power tilt ?
No. This is for tilt ONLY, won't hold a trim position under power.
Hey Brandon where can I get a replacement for the vintage power tilt unit like the one in this video.
A replacement what; the complete unit?
I have this exact unit. Two questions . My original completely went out . I found a used one but it bleeds down quite quickly . Question 1 - I found a new one so how do I fill it for the first time . Question 2- Since this is a tilt only , how do I set the trim , is there suppose to be a pin trough the holes on the mount? If so do you know the part number ?
I have the same unit, and same question about how to fill it. The knurled nut on the side of the pump housing is the fill cap. Most people seem to use dex III transmission fluid in them. But I'm not sure how much or if the power piston needs to be extended or retracted to fill. Let me know if you find out. As far as trim, the transom bracket should have a series of holes and a rod that passes through to set the trim. This unit will not hold the engine by itself in a trim position. Part number 0383568 should be the retainer rod that slides into the holes. I'm assuming your engine is from the 1960's, so not certain if they changed the part in later years.
@@eperot We've got a 68 Starflite 100, lift stopped lifting last year. Doing our pre-use spring maintenance this weekend and that was exactly the info I needed. Kind of thought it would be that one as opposed to the actual screw higher up. (it's a reservoir, should be near the bottom, right, lol!) Anyway, thanks for the year-old confirmation!
I got a 1976 70 hp evinrude my tilt and trim motor is shot anyone know where I can find one
I have a 1976 johnson seens like the same outboard in this video. The problem is that when i turn it on. Water start to come out of the carburetor and the motor dies. Can you help me please
What?? does it really?
Can you take and email me a video of that?
Headgasket is done for.
Hey do you know where you could possibly get another one of those tilt pump/motors? Mine is bad
did you ever find one? I am looking for one now.
ruclips.net/video/RA6zvhqLzgE/видео.html
Watch his video and he tells you where to get pump and motor.
No I didn’t I’m still looking wish somebody could tell me what new pump could go in it’s place
Is there an alternate tilt trim that fits
Did you find one?
I have the same exact tilt setup on my 1972 100 hp Johnson and I need a new motor if anyone knows where I can get one it would be much appreciated
I'm sure mine has it, exact same motor but cant find a trim swith nowhere on controls, any ideas
I have this exact unit on my 1961 whaler.. just purchased the whaler. The tilt worked the first time I used it, but now, when I hold it to tilt "up," the motor doesn't move.. I have to lift it manually while the switch is in the "up" position. Then it'll stay up, and when I push down, it goes down.. fast. I've tried unscrewing the little hand screw on the tilt motor and putting new tilt/trim fluid in it (which honestly seems very thin for the job, but while I am experienced with small engines, I'm new to boating and all its gear).. but it basically just dumps right out, and doesn't work any better. I've tried putting fluid in til it overflows, moving the engine up and down (manually up, coz it doesn't go up on its own).. add more fluid (flows out almost immediately again).. up and down.. no dice. The thing seems to be getting good power, it just doesn't lift the engine... any ideas? Took me a while to find a video with this tilter in it!! Thanks!!
I thought you said we should ask if we have questions 😊
Helloooo
I have the exact same problem. Did you find a solution?
@@discernlive6741 ultimately I found a new lift on eBay, installed it, and all was good
I just bout a 1985 50HP with this setup on it. Missing relays switches etc... If anybody has any info articles videos about this set up I would appreciate if you could share it. Its super super clean. The guy I bought it from says he thought it was after market.
Well it would have use a solenoid to power it up.
Do you have a electrical box that came with it?
@@BrandonsGarage No.Its still on the pallet but so far it just has the wire harness coming from the motor. I see nothing in the parts list that this motor has this? I have seen these before but never put much thought into it. But its super clean as is the motor. zero corrosion. Would like to find a parts list for it. From the comments you generated alot of interest in this setup. Thanks
Hi do you know that year this is and what hp ??? i have a 1975 115hp and looks the same someone has mucked around with the tilt trim but
Oh this was a 1976.
Same setup.
Hey forgot to add im in Australia so not sure if they came out here the same
@@BrandonsGarage i have a 75 70 hp . tilt just stopped going up but it will go down. cylinder covered with old hydraulic fluid. do you think the cylinder just needs to be rebuilt? or could the motor be going out and only have the power to go down?
I’m making a air shock set up from a 63 Corvette
can u manually lift motor if trim goes out?
Yes, there is a relief valve on the motor.
What is the screw for on the bottom of the pump on the tilt trim motor?
To relieve pressure I believe so you can raise and lower without power
Yes, have exact trim on my 55 evinrude, wouldn't trim up. Finally found which screw releases the pressure.
I am looking for the motor . Not the hydraulics just the motor do anyone know where I can find one I have a 74- 115hp Johnson
Have a mint 76 115 johnson I'd sell. Skeg needs repaired but the power head looks like much like the one in this video. Low hours for sure.
I have a motor that look like that one. Im looking for the tilt and trim motor pump that's sitting on the right side on your video. Im not sure what year my motor is but my trim reservoir haa 3 bolt holes and 3 wires. Do you know of anyone that may sale the tilt and trim motor?
I have one
@@Dk-zl6cz is this still available?
ruclips.net/video/RA6zvhqLzgE/видео.html
Watch his video he will tell you where to get one.
I have a 76 johnson 70hp trying to figure out why it will trim down but not up?
usually I find the switch is the problem.
...well, does it make noise and try to trim up? If no, see former statement.
i cant find where to connect the wires i look crazy on mine cuz my trim wire from the controls is not connected
I have that unit but I need the electric motor. Do you know the motor number or an equivalent motor to fit it?
Well, It doesn't quite work like that.
You rebuild or replace the motor parts.
The motor and pump reservior are built into one.
Many better to just upgrade to a trim tilt than trying to fix this one
@@BrandonsGarage hi Brandon, would you happen to have the model number for that motor? Mine just started going out and it shows its age enough to where i can't find the part number or anything. Thanks in advance
@@BrandonsGarage how do or where do you add oil to a 76 85 horse tilt
I need a tilt setup like that for my 70hp
yeah me too.
can it be used for trim when moving?
nope
Why not , not strong enough ?
Where can I but a tilt system
Check junkyards
where do I get the tilt motor please??
Have you figured this out or the trim motor model number?
Bump!
@@mariochingon3842 Have you?
@@randomfandom53 i didnt but did find one on amazon that worked 👌
Mario Chingon cool I found a motor too but struggling now to find a pump that’ll work because I opened mine up and it’s cracked and shot
Ok here we go one more time. Input the model number on Amazon and you will find the pump 👌 18-6762
@Mario what trim/tilt fluid would work in this unit?
And so this is the motor -and- the pump? (Seems to be, but just confirming)
Want to sellit
Much faster do you need that motor to come up? Any faster and it's going to be sitting inside the boat. There's a reason that that motor is still around because that is an american-made motor made with American aluminum and steel buying American with quality control. It's not assembled by mr. Ping Ping in China with inferior crap.
I want it..im very serious
this one is long gone my brother.
A saw power trim & tilt unit on ebay recently however.
Zero useful info! Wish I had that time back.
LOL so true
Do you know where i can find one of those trim pumps and hopefully mounting bracket?
Is it possible to trim while cruising with this style power tilt ?
No, it is not a power trim, just tilt.
I got a 1976 70 hp evinrude my tilt and trim motor is shot anyone know where I can find one