A little first hand insight about nasal resonance and about Zach's teaching: I once sent Zach a clip of my singing and he immediately spotted nasal resonance in my singing (just by earing a specific overtone in my voice - i don't have a nasal voice, it's really a minor detail of a specific frequency or tone that he heard). This alone, showed me how much he's prepared and how much of a fine ear he has. And then he went ahead and gave me the tip of trying to sing while holding my nose, and in a matter of a couple of days of working on it, I got rid of nasal resonance. I now sing with a much crispier tone, strain less and waste less air (he also told me that it's not very convenient to have air coming out of your nose while singing, while it should all come out of the mouth). It really changed my approach to singing and gave me tons of perspective on what happens when I sing. And all this just with a private message, the guy doesn't even know me, he had no reason to help me, but he did, and I'm very grateful for that. So if you go to a comment section under a video of his to troll him or to tell him that he has to demonstrate stuff or all that good stuff that ignorant youtube trolls say, bite your tongue first, and eat it. Or maybe go to a reaction video channel to have no information whatsoever about singing but instead, a nice girl saying "WHOA I LIKE IT, AMAZING, YEAH!" at your favourite artist. Maybe you don't deserve Zach's passion and skill. This guy is the real deal.
Thank you, Leonardo. You are truly kind. I'm glad I was able to help you. You know how to reach me if you need some more insight! You should also consider joining discord - its much easier to reach me there. :)
List of Cons (the software glitched when I rendered the video): Cons: 1) Relies on force and pressure on top end of range 2) Uses nasality to combat the excessive pressure 3) Physically forces vibrato, rather than letting it be a byproduct of good technique Thank you for watching, and thank you for your support! I hope you gained some perspectives on the specifics of Tony's technique here. He definitely has a distinctive sound. If you want more content like this, please LIKE and SUBSCRIBE! www.patreon.com/ZachAnsley www.zachansleyvocals.com IG: @zachansleyvocals Twitch: zachansleyvocals Twitter:@zachansleyvocal discord.gg/YFz9bWR
I can't comment on how healthy the nasality in Tony's singing is, or whether the pressure that he uses to achieve the high extremes of his register is damaging his voice long-term. But I absolutely CAN say that even if I don't know the song in question, I can ALWAYS tell if it's Sonata Arctica because Tony's singing is so distinctive (it's as unique as Geddy Lee's singing...there is nobody else who sounds even remotely like him). And I think there's a very good chance that, given the way he's worked to improve his technique over the years, he is both aware that he CAN remove the nasal aspect from his singing, and unwilling to do so.
Yea, I tend to think even the bocal "break" in the word 'forever' is likely done on purpose. I've heard him do similar choices in his voice during other improvised or alternate live vocal takes on other songs, and it always accentuates the lyric or the emotion, or dramatisation of the line
I am so happy I found your channel. Tony’s been one of my vocal inspiration and noticed a lot of what you’ve pointed out when I practice to SA’s songs. Your criticism is fair and encouraging. Looking forward to watching your other videos. Would love to see an analysis on Roy Khan (exKamelot and Conception).
I listen to Sonata Arctica for around 16 years now and I think his Tony's voice did not change much since then. When I watched this video I though that he now even manages to sing better live than he did in the past. I remember he had some breath issues in earlier live recordings. Too much pressure isn't really necessary to get a full and loud tone, I completely agree and even from experience. I had a pneumothorax in December 2010 and before I knew what it is, I did some vocal practice using only one lung. Later when I recovered my vocal coach told me that I should absolutely avoid using much pressure in the future if I don't want to end up in the hospital again. And after all the practice I can say that I am now far louder (if I want to) than I was any time before the pneumothorax happened without ever using too much pressure.
I spent many of my teen years listening mostly Sonata Arctica and trying to imitate Tony. I'll remember the things you said and see how can I sing their songs now in a sustainable way. Thank you!
Thank you for this video! As a big fan of Tony, I found it very interesting. About what he did at 20:24, I'm pretty sure it was on purpose, like an ornament (you may like it or not). About the sustainability of his voice: For what I now, he is recording albums and touring for more than 20 years and he has only improved since. He can still sing incredibly high notes and make them look easy. About the rasp thing: if you watch the live "For the sake of revenge", he uses it almost everytime when he speaks and very often when singing as well. I guess he found a way to do it safely...
Sorry to be unsettling, I love Tony too, but as a matter of fact his voice has basically dropped in range from an "almost tenor" to full fat baritone. He sings everything at least 3 half steps down, that's a lot. Lost some breath and power too, at least watching his 2019-2020 performances; like you I've always followed Sonata and Tony whatever they did so I was a witness to his change. He's still great in heartfelt, "safer" songs like Tallulah, but can't really pull off the power metal atmosphere needed for their big hit FullMoon...
@@macakucizmama831 he always had some depth to his voice and some girth in the lower baritone register. Even when he used to sing super high power metal vocals, he was pushing a lot (thus the grit). As of today he's singing sensibly lower than years ago with a much fuller and grown up voice which has little tenor quality
Valerio Cesarini this sounds baritonish to you? ruclips.net/video/xWm4gnCxOSk/видео.html Totally tenor imo, speaking of low notes there are tons of ways to manipulate lower register even if you are a tenor. Plus lack of sleep, voice overuse, alcohol etc can cause inflammation, which can results in a better lows, strained highs on some performances
@@valeriocesarini5661 Yeah but getting older make loose range to any singer :( Even Dio could not sing high at all at his end life, so in the rock register where performances are exeptional you can't stay at you best range and power and have to trade it with depht and maturity :)
I actually like the Nasality in his voice and that's very characteristic with his style. Also, hey Zach, I have a suggestion: Sam Carter from Architects with the song Doomsday, Royal Beggars or Hereafter. I'm curious what you think of him ;) You have btw gained a new sub!
You have my sub! Gidday from Australia. Im loving your videos! Your actually real and not afraid to just be subjective. All the other RUclipsrs seem too keen to just say good things to get approval. I love Tony as he was the first singer that made me stop and take notice when at the time i was only watching the guitarists. He blew my mind and made me want to become a singer.
I saw a recent interview with him saying that when he was younger he forced out higher notes than he was really capable of doing so on newer albums the songs aren't as high.
We talk about sustainable technique, which is a real thing and as I said before, you are raising good points, but Tony has been the top of the national charts for 22 years. So yeah I'd call that sustainability.
I'm not a fan of nasal sounds/vocals. but Tony is different. And i love him because his nasality makes him so unique and distinctive in power metal scenes ❤️
Very complete analysis again Zach , tony is very interesting as a singer with so beautiful dynamics even though i dont like his nasality too much either. But he indeed he has worked on his voice because he hasn't really decayed too much but he is still young.
As a long time listener to Sonata, I can say that Tony has had his on and off phases. He has definitely gotten slightly more nasal in his lower registers but his powerful highs are pretty much the same as his earlier days. Watch him sing Shamandalie from the live album in tokyo. The album cover has a blue wolf from memory. That whole concert was incredible. His voice was the best hes ever been
About that pressure thing and whether his voice has decayed or not... I can tell you as a person who went to see them live 4 times, he doesn't do that in most live shows. I think he's doing this here because they're recording a DVD and he's looking for a certain sound to create more impact maybe.
I love Tony and I'll just briefly comment that his voice has definitely evolved towards a lower register, full fat baritone, and lost some power too, especially in those "effortless raspy" high notes. He was already pushing at his limits with the super high vocals in his youth, now he's apparently forced to sing most of the older Sonata catalogue 3 half steps down. Still love the man
He is not a baritone, people have no idea how to differentiate voices. You know tenors also went trough puberty right? ;) Passagio is the only way to tell baritone from a tenor, and he definitely lies in tenor
@@macakucizmama831 Passaggio is with two g's, and do you think that Toni's chest register is as high as that of your usual "rock" tenors? Don't you believe that 2021 Toni's passaggios call for a slightly deeper chest? After all we're not talking about opera and classically trained singers, so it's pointless to try and give objective labels
@@valeriocesarini5661 thanks for correction, I don’t speak Italian. 👍 Well I think that prople confuse voice colour with a voice placement. Some people have richer color, some have lighter, but it’ also depends of a technique a lot, most rock and metal tenors used so called edge singing tehnique, where head voice is dominant over chest, Tonny was self taught and had more cheasty, aka heavier approach, at least in lower range, and his tehnique was never that good, there was a lot of nasality in upper register, but it was sustainable. Recently he said in interview that he doesn’t wasn’t to sing with boice that is not “his own” anymore, so I assume he meant on upper register. Generaly tenor voice naturally lies in F2 - A4 range, with 1st passaggio (easy crossable) being at E4, and 2nd aka break being between G#4 and A4. Tonny always fitted that. Everything above that is tehnique, and generally tenor need to start to modulate at maxt at F4 if he wants to cross A4. But when someone can sing connected A4s, H4s, C5s, d5s that is clearly a tenor, highest baritone can belt is G4, and for a tenor it is still middle register. For example Dancing on my own, effortless G#4s, Misery C#5 and so on, all cheast dominant
@@valeriocesarini5661 speaking of passaggio change, I don’t think that is possible unless there is some short or permanent vocal damage. I noticed (tenor myself) that is I am sick, or if I overuse a voice, or after alcohol, cold drinks, carboneted drinks, sour or hot food that my voice drops to more baritone range, but it get healed sooner ot later, after alcohol usually after 3 to 4 days. But if for example someone sing with bad tehnique for say 20 years, it can definitely be permanent change, but if with proper tehnique and not overuse of a voice, I think voice can just grow and become more resonat and richer with age, aka to sound deeper, despite its not
More comments: the nasality of sa is one of the things that draws the fans (me) to his voice so much. It sounds exactly like Tony, its unmistakable and its perfect.
No idea if you'll see this since this is an old video, but a little comment on metal singers and the vocal strain... on about half of them (the ones that have actually had some vocal training), the strain is pure theatre. They've got mics with better pickups (or whatever the mic equivalent to that is), and they're rasping at about 1/4 of the volume at which they "clean" sing. I watched a really good video on it a while back, I'll see if I can link it, it backs up a lot of what metal vocalists I know say.
Tony Kakko is clearly the best vocalist on the planet so I was ready to come here all guns blazing but despite you not having a comparable voice, you make good points.
24:05 If you listen the song "My Sharona" by The Knack you'll hear a perfect example of My - word weirdness all though rhyming with eye. But then, metal bands do often play to international audiences who don't care.
A lot of his live singing is for effect, and after dozens of tour dates he likely dealing with fatigue... if you listen to his songs the vocals are very dynamic, up and down and mixed techniques... It is hard to maintain all the techniques live night in and out... I agree he forces certain techniques for metal edge effect but he is already minimizing it in the new music, and singing in his nasal range as his voice has changed over the years building his tenor techniques and others... Singing octaves lower etc... He also claims to have never taken singing lessons but that might be an inside joke to the contrary.
I am very confused about his vocal classification, is he a baritone? I see in several places where they say he is a baritone, is he really a baritone, could you please answer this question for me?
sorry guy big part of what you said is wrong about Tony s technique, voice cracks are intentional and part of the singing expressivity , and the raspy register of tony is so well mastered that he need almost no air bonus to vibrate his false vocal cords wich takes decades of singing to make it natural. His physicall vibrato is require to dont loose control of the notes he is doing at that moment ( any airflow disturbances can be a disaster at this lvl of tension), and also part of the global expressivity. This performance is incredibly high level and the proof of it is that its looks easy. And also false vocal cords are very protective , even more than any resonance technique, they can be hardenned by practicing and it wont damage the voice unless he ll over abuse this tech. And also one last thing is his stamina, voice treated like that cant handle such tensions for long and in this area he is far beyond 99% of the singers. But you have one right point to his nasality, it "kills" the sensation of high level vocals ( bit its not ) thats why he is so underrated.
@@Zachsvocalanalysis comon even babies use false vocal cords to protect their cries for hours. Did ya ever scream once and notice what mecanisms your body will naturally use ? i would never post a comment to said someone he s wrong in his interpretations if im not sure of it. I m a singer and a teacher also and i made all thoses mistakes, serious knolwedges of singing techniques are more rare than gold cause of the old academic traditional legacy. And in those you wont find any info on false vocal cords or the "air puffs" frequencies for example. Nasality is not something to cure cause it can have many uses. Lets say that the optimal singing technique is the classical "opera" for an healthy practice, but this is just not the topic, technically yes classical singing is far better, but by the cover technique ( down the larynx) it makes expressivity throught pronounciation impossible. So what are we looking for ? you just described techniqus that doesnt fit at all with the subject. But its your knolwedges i dont blame. keep rocking !
@@jordan951 I have made this argument a million times. The baby comparison does not work due to the lack of collagen and the malleability of the cartilage in the mechanism during childhood and infancy. Calling old academic education incorrect is ignorance. You clearly aren't keeping up with people like Ingo Titze and Ken Bozeman. I highly recommend you re-evaluate wherever you are getting your vocal education because it is rooted in physiologically unsound ideas.
@@Zachsvocalanalysis If you dont like babies example you'll prefer the late alcoolics bar fight screamings or metal singers :) And old academic education contents didnt mooved for decades ( im talking here in France btw ) while many discovers have been made, if its not incorrect its at least outdated and austere. It gives solid basics but definetly not half of the all singing spectrum. Btw false vocal cords are also the main center of many traditional mongolian songs, and not all of them are deaf i guess.
What even dude? just go watch the original video if you wanna see it that badly, it's in the description for goodness sake, and let us learn what we want to learn from this kind gentleman taking the time to tell and show us how Tony sings 😀
Hmmm never understood the hype with him... to me his vocals always seemed average... when he sang beauty and the beast with Tarja, all those years ago, I thought him to be no match for her voice. I don't think he is a bad singer but just not that exciting compared to singers like J.P. Leppäluoto or Ville Valo.
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A little first hand insight about nasal resonance and about Zach's teaching:
I once sent Zach a clip of my singing and he immediately spotted nasal resonance in my singing (just by earing a specific overtone in my voice - i don't have a nasal voice, it's really a minor detail of a specific frequency or tone that he heard).
This alone, showed me how much he's prepared and how much of a fine ear he has.
And then he went ahead and gave me the tip of trying to sing while holding my nose, and in a matter of a couple of days of working on it, I got rid of nasal resonance. I now sing with a much crispier tone, strain less and waste less air (he also told me that it's not very convenient to have air coming out of your nose while singing, while it should all come out of the mouth). It really changed my approach to singing and gave me tons of perspective on what happens when I sing.
And all this just with a private message, the guy doesn't even know me, he had no reason to help me, but he did, and I'm very grateful for that.
So if you go to a comment section under a video of his to troll him or to tell him that he has to demonstrate stuff or all that good stuff that ignorant youtube trolls say, bite your tongue first, and eat it. Or maybe go to a reaction video channel to have no information whatsoever about singing but instead, a nice girl saying "WHOA I LIKE IT, AMAZING, YEAH!" at your favourite artist. Maybe you don't deserve Zach's passion and skill.
This guy is the real deal.
Thank you, Leonardo. You are truly kind. I'm glad I was able to help you. You know how to reach me if you need some more insight! You should also consider joining discord - its much easier to reach me there. :)
List of Cons (the software glitched when I rendered the video):
Cons:
1) Relies on force and pressure on top end of range
2) Uses nasality to combat the excessive pressure
3) Physically forces vibrato, rather than letting it be a byproduct of good technique
Thank you for watching, and thank you for your support! I hope you gained some perspectives on the specifics of Tony's technique here. He definitely has a distinctive sound.
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Tony "never misses a note" Kakko. He trusts his perfect pitch and makes the melodies complex. A lot of fun to sing.
I can't comment on how healthy the nasality in Tony's singing is, or whether the pressure that he uses to achieve the high extremes of his register is damaging his voice long-term. But I absolutely CAN say that even if I don't know the song in question, I can ALWAYS tell if it's Sonata Arctica because Tony's singing is so distinctive (it's as unique as Geddy Lee's singing...there is nobody else who sounds even remotely like him). And I think there's a very good chance that, given the way he's worked to improve his technique over the years, he is both aware that he CAN remove the nasal aspect from his singing, and unwilling to do so.
100% agree with you.
I really believe it's it's his accent and his mother tongue.
Yea, I tend to think even the bocal "break" in the word 'forever' is likely done on purpose. I've heard him do similar choices in his voice during other improvised or alternate live vocal takes on other songs, and it always accentuates the lyric or the emotion, or dramatisation of the line
Love love love Sonata Arctica, so glad you did an analysis of Tony Kakko!
I am so happy I found your channel. Tony’s been one of my vocal inspiration and noticed a lot of what you’ve pointed out when I practice to SA’s songs. Your criticism is fair and encouraging. Looking forward to watching your other videos. Would love to see an analysis on Roy Khan (exKamelot and Conception).
Thank you! I actually already analyzed Roy Khan! The video is a bit older so it isnt as focused or refined, but its there. :)
Zach Ansley watched it last night! You’ve covered a lot of my favorite vocalists actually. =)
I like the nasality in Tony's singing.
I listen to Sonata Arctica for around 16 years now and I think his Tony's voice did not change much since then. When I watched this video I though that he now even manages to sing better live than he did in the past. I remember he had some breath issues in earlier live recordings.
Too much pressure isn't really necessary to get a full and loud tone, I completely agree and even from experience. I had a pneumothorax in December 2010 and before I knew what it is, I did some vocal practice using only one lung. Later when I recovered my vocal coach told me that I should absolutely avoid using much pressure in the future if I don't want to end up in the hospital again. And after all the practice I can say that I am now far louder (if I want to) than I was any time before the pneumothorax happened without ever using too much pressure.
I spent many of my teen years listening mostly Sonata Arctica and trying to imitate Tony. I'll remember the things you said and see how can I sing their songs now in a sustainable way.
Thank you!
Thank you for this video! As a big fan of Tony, I found it very interesting. About what he did at 20:24, I'm pretty sure it was on purpose, like an ornament (you may like it or not). About the sustainability of his voice: For what I now, he is recording albums and touring for more than 20 years and he has only improved since. He can still sing incredibly high notes and make them look easy. About the rasp thing: if you watch the live "For the sake of revenge", he uses it almost everytime when he speaks and very often when singing as well. I guess he found a way to do it safely...
Sorry to be unsettling, I love Tony too, but as a matter of fact his voice has basically dropped in range from an "almost tenor" to full fat baritone. He sings everything at least 3 half steps down, that's a lot. Lost some breath and power too, at least watching his 2019-2020 performances; like you I've always followed Sonata and Tony whatever they did so I was a witness to his change.
He's still great in heartfelt, "safer" songs like Tallulah, but can't really pull off the power metal atmosphere needed for their big hit FullMoon...
@@valeriocesarini5661 what does almost a tenor means? He was and stll is a tenor, I dont get where baritone argument comes from
@@macakucizmama831 he always had some depth to his voice and some girth in the lower baritone register. Even when he used to sing super high power metal vocals, he was pushing a lot (thus the grit). As of today he's singing sensibly lower than years ago with a much fuller and grown up voice which has little tenor quality
Valerio Cesarini this sounds baritonish to you?
ruclips.net/video/xWm4gnCxOSk/видео.html
Totally tenor imo, speaking of low notes there are tons of ways to manipulate lower register even if you are a tenor. Plus lack of sleep, voice overuse, alcohol etc can cause inflammation, which can results in a better lows, strained highs on some performances
@@valeriocesarini5661 Yeah but getting older make loose range to any singer :(
Even Dio could not sing high at all at his end life, so in the rock register where performances are exeptional you can't stay at you best range and power and have to trade it with depht and maturity :)
I actually like the Nasality in his voice and that's very characteristic with his style.
Also, hey Zach, I have a suggestion: Sam Carter from Architects with the song Doomsday, Royal Beggars or Hereafter. I'm curious what you think of him ;) You have btw gained a new sub!
I wish you'd look at him singing Bohemian rhapsody to Showcase what he can do when he's not singing the style of Sonata
He improved a lot recently and started to sing safer for his voice.
Superb analysis Zach, very informative, it cleared a lot of doubts I had.
Thx for the insight. Funny Thing, i Just happened to dig up and Listen to my SA records yesterday, after like 2 years forgetting about them.
You have my sub! Gidday from Australia. Im loving your videos! Your actually real and not afraid to just be subjective. All the other RUclipsrs seem too keen to just say good things to get approval. I love Tony as he was the first singer that made me stop and take notice when at the time i was only watching the guitarists. He blew my mind and made me want to become a singer.
you're on another level, my friend
I saw a recent interview with him saying that when he was younger he forced out higher notes than he was really capable of doing so on newer albums the songs aren't as high.
We talk about sustainable technique, which is a real thing and as I said before, you are raising good points, but Tony has been the top of the national charts for 22 years. So yeah I'd call that sustainability.
I'm not a fan of nasal sounds/vocals. but Tony is different. And i love him because his nasality makes him so unique and distinctive in power metal scenes ❤️
Very complete analysis again Zach , tony is very interesting as a singer with so beautiful dynamics even though i dont like his nasality too much either. But he indeed he has worked on his voice because he hasn't really decayed too much but he is still young.
Enjoyed this one :3 A friend of mine is a huge Sonata Arctica fan. Maybe I'll listen to them in the future
Maybe? No, do it now lol
@@kvaldez46 I'm busy with some other stuff unfortunately. There is just so much great music out there
No kalk, stop with tool and put sonata instead
As a long time listener to Sonata, I can say that Tony has had his on and off phases. He has definitely gotten slightly more nasal in his lower registers but his powerful highs are pretty much the same as his earlier days. Watch him sing Shamandalie from the live album in tokyo. The album cover has a blue wolf from memory. That whole concert was incredible. His voice was the best hes ever been
Good or bad singing, nasal or not these C#5s always gives me shivers 🤷
About that pressure thing and whether his voice has decayed or not... I can tell you as a person who went to see them live 4 times, he doesn't do that in most live shows. I think he's doing this here because they're recording a DVD and he's looking for a certain sound to create more impact maybe.
His singing might be technically imperfect, but he is such a great tenor, with also great low notes
I love Tony and I'll just briefly comment that his voice has definitely evolved towards a lower register, full fat baritone, and lost some power too, especially in those "effortless raspy" high notes. He was already pushing at his limits with the super high vocals in his youth, now he's apparently forced to sing most of the older Sonata catalogue 3 half steps down. Still love the man
He is not a baritone, people have no idea how to differentiate voices. You know tenors also went trough puberty right? ;)
Passagio is the only way to tell baritone from a tenor, and he definitely lies in tenor
@@macakucizmama831 Passaggio is with two g's, and do you think that Toni's chest register is as high as that of your usual "rock" tenors? Don't you believe that 2021 Toni's passaggios call for a slightly deeper chest?
After all we're not talking about opera and classically trained singers, so it's pointless to try and give objective labels
@@valeriocesarini5661 thanks for correction, I don’t speak Italian. 👍
Well I think that prople confuse voice colour with a voice placement. Some people have richer color, some have lighter, but it’ also depends of a technique a lot, most rock and metal tenors used so called edge singing tehnique, where head voice is dominant over chest, Tonny was self taught and had more cheasty, aka heavier approach, at least in lower range, and his tehnique was never that good, there was a lot of nasality in upper register, but it was sustainable. Recently he said in interview that he doesn’t wasn’t to sing with boice that is not “his own” anymore, so I assume he meant on upper register.
Generaly tenor voice naturally lies in F2 - A4 range, with 1st passaggio (easy crossable) being at E4, and 2nd aka break being between G#4 and A4. Tonny always fitted that. Everything above that is tehnique, and generally tenor need to start to modulate at maxt at F4 if he wants to cross A4. But when someone can sing connected A4s, H4s, C5s, d5s that is clearly a tenor, highest baritone can belt is G4, and for a tenor it is still middle register. For example Dancing on my own, effortless G#4s, Misery C#5 and so on, all cheast dominant
@@valeriocesarini5661 speaking of passaggio change, I don’t think that is possible unless there is some short or permanent vocal damage. I noticed (tenor myself) that is I am sick, or if I overuse a voice, or after alcohol, cold drinks, carboneted drinks, sour or hot food that my voice drops to more baritone range, but it get healed sooner ot later, after alcohol usually after 3 to 4 days. But if for example someone sing with bad tehnique for say 20 years, it can definitely be permanent change, but if with proper tehnique and not overuse of a voice, I think voice can just grow and become more resonat and richer with age, aka to sound deeper, despite its not
More comments: the nasality of sa is one of the things that draws the fans (me) to his voice so much. It sounds exactly like Tony, its unmistakable and its perfect.
No idea if you'll see this since this is an old video, but a little comment on metal singers and the vocal strain... on about half of them (the ones that have actually had some vocal training), the strain is pure theatre. They've got mics with better pickups (or whatever the mic equivalent to that is), and they're rasping at about 1/4 of the volume at which they "clean" sing. I watched a really good video on it a while back, I'll see if I can link it, it backs up a lot of what metal vocalists I know say.
Yeah, this guy:
ruclips.net/video/LyW3nMWLQf4/видео.html
SoHyang next please!!!
Tony Kakko is clearly the best vocalist on the planet so I was ready to come here all guns blazing but despite you not having a comparable voice, you make good points.
24:05 If you listen the song "My Sharona" by The Knack you'll hear a perfect example of My - word weirdness all though rhyming with eye. But then, metal bands do often play to international audiences who don't care.
Was there a mention how old this clip was? I wouldn't be surprised if it was over 10 years old. The reason I think this is because it sounds good.
Like you said, it works for him and people shouldn't try to mimic it
Also the phrasing is part of the compositional process that he goes through, he doesn't do this on the fly randomly.
A lot of his live singing is for effect, and after dozens of tour dates he likely dealing with fatigue... if you listen to his songs the vocals are very dynamic, up and down and mixed techniques... It is hard to maintain all the techniques live night in and out... I agree he forces certain techniques for metal edge effect but he is already minimizing it in the new music, and singing in his nasal range as his voice has changed over the years building his tenor techniques and others... Singing octaves lower etc... He also claims to have never taken singing lessons but that might be an inside joke to the contrary.
I am very confused about his vocal classification, is he a baritone? I see in several places where they say he is a baritone, is he really a baritone, could you please answer this question for me?
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How would it sound different though if he sang as you recommend?
Please do a Mike Vescera of Yngwie Malmsteen or Marc Boals singing Leonardo also in yngwie malmsteen
sorry guy big part of what you said is wrong about Tony s technique, voice cracks are intentional and part of the singing expressivity , and the raspy register of tony is so well mastered that he need almost no air bonus to vibrate his false vocal cords wich takes decades of singing to make it natural.
His physicall vibrato is require to dont loose control of the notes he is doing at that moment ( any airflow disturbances can be a disaster at this lvl of tension), and also part of the global expressivity.
This performance is incredibly high level and the proof of it is that its looks easy.
And also false vocal cords are very protective , even more than any resonance technique, they can be hardenned by practicing and it wont damage the voice unless he ll over abuse this tech.
And also one last thing is his stamina, voice treated like that cant handle such tensions for long and in this area he is far beyond 99% of the singers.
But you have one right point to his nasality, it "kills" the sensation of high level vocals ( bit its not ) thats why he is so underrated.
I'm not sure that someone could be more wrong than this comment. Literally everything you said is physiologically incorrect.
@@Zachsvocalanalysis comon even babies use false vocal cords to protect their cries for hours.
Did ya ever scream once and notice what mecanisms your body will naturally use ?
i would never post a comment to said someone he s wrong in his interpretations if im not sure of it.
I m a singer and a teacher also and i made all thoses mistakes, serious knolwedges of singing techniques are more rare than gold cause of the old academic traditional legacy.
And in those you wont find any info on false vocal cords or the "air puffs" frequencies for example.
Nasality is not something to cure cause it can have many uses.
Lets say that the optimal singing technique is the classical "opera" for an healthy practice, but this is just not the topic, technically yes classical singing is far better, but by the cover technique ( down the larynx) it makes expressivity throught pronounciation impossible.
So what are we looking for ? you just described techniqus that doesnt fit at all with the subject. But its your knolwedges i dont blame.
keep rocking !
@@jordan951 I have made this argument a million times. The baby comparison does not work due to the lack of collagen and the malleability of the cartilage in the mechanism during childhood and infancy. Calling old academic education incorrect is ignorance. You clearly aren't keeping up with people like Ingo Titze and Ken Bozeman. I highly recommend you re-evaluate wherever you are getting your vocal education because it is rooted in physiologically unsound ideas.
@@Zachsvocalanalysis If you dont like babies example you'll prefer the late alcoolics bar fight screamings or metal singers :)
And old academic education contents didnt mooved for decades ( im talking here in France btw ) while many discovers have been made, if its not incorrect its at least outdated and austere.
It gives solid basics but definetly not half of the all singing spectrum.
Btw false vocal cords are also the main center of many traditional mongolian songs, and not all of them are deaf i guess.
Throat singers have a 40% higher frequency of vocal nodules than those who don't do it.
I would like to hear your thoughts about the young Graham Bonnet (Rainbow, Alcatrazz, MSG etc.)
Next one Giacomo Voli (bohemien Rhapsody)
Suomi mainittu, torilla tavataan!
Ah, lopeta jo ton typerän meemin käyttö!
Sano mieluummin jotain asiaa.
@@Aurinkohirvi Liian myöhäistä, hähä!
How many pauses will you do?
Zach: yes
If you want to hear the song, listen to the song.
Is there a Video in which I can hear you sing??
Welll he is Finnish, English is not a his native language
listen without much pause and shut up a bit....
If you don’t like the way I make videos, make your own
This is not a reaction video. The more he paused, the more details he can notice and tells us 😉
What even dude? just go watch the original video if you wanna see it that badly, it's in the description for goodness sake, and let us learn what we want to learn from this kind gentleman taking the time to tell and show us how Tony sings 😀
Hmmm never understood the hype with him... to me his vocals always seemed average... when he sang beauty and the beast with Tarja, all those years ago, I thought him to be no match for her voice. I don't think he is a bad singer but just not that exciting compared to singers like J.P. Leppäluoto or Ville Valo.
Good video, but honestly you talk too much
Rafael Angelo Vivaldi Costa I get what you are saying but he is an educator not an entertainer