Echo 590 or Stihl 261: Who Wins the Chainsaw Showdown?
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- Опубликовано: 1 мар 2023
- Drag racing the 590 ECHO vs. 261 STIHL.
Both are muffler modded and both have 20" bars. Yes the echo is 10 more cc however it wasn't able to beat the 261 before mods. Link to full video is here… • Echo 590 Timberwolf- (... 
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the Echo just came out of the box new...the Stihl has obvious years of use on it and a dull chain...nice video
Ahahaha dull chain and a “worn out” saw are not accurate assessments 😂. Echo 590 is a great saw trust me I’m a Stihl guy mainly only run 261/400/462 everyday but these are hard to be beat for the money 💰
@@timberandtoolsthere’s many variables here that could change the outcome of the challenge. For one though, use the same chain on both saws and time the cuts. Also put a new bar on the Sthil.
@@liamcul8tr335 your very right about there being a lot of factors. Bar is perfect though. If you file your bar and maintain it they last incredibly long. I have a full length video showing how these two saws were cutting and being beat by 261 same b and c as they both have in this section of video. It is a pre muff mod race between the two saws and the Stihl easily has it many times pre muff mod on echo
@@timberandtoolsexactly
The echo ain’t tuned right.
I don't know for sure, however I think there is a more dangerous way to do this test.
Definitely would be more dangerous if we weren’t wearing clothes or work boots 🥾
This is like comparing apples and oranges, the Echo 590 is a 59.8 cc Pro saw and the Stihl 261 50.2 Pro saw. Running it against an MS362 would be a better option
Yes this is true. Firstly, this is a clip from one of videos that’s before the muffler mod the Stihl 261 beat the echo 590. I know all the sizes and stats as well of the two. But because they cut similar that was the reason for this comparison. Also just made a video on a 60cc echo 620/600sx that beat a 67 cc Stihl 400 so you see I run these saws everyday and know what is similar speed and power and why I make comparisons to help people understand who do not know. Thanks for watching
The Echo CS-590 Timberwolf is NOT a pro saw. It's a mid-grade farm and ranch saw. Hence the low price and case design. The Echo pro 60cc saw would be the CS-620P.
@afellowinnewengland6142 echo 590 is a split case same as 620
@@timberandtools True, but the CS-590 has lots of plastic and a different port design and other design changes. It's not making the same amount of power as the CS-620p and not built to the same standard. However, I give them credit on the split case.
@@afellowinnewengland6142 yes 620 has unlimited coil as well!
Project farm has the best comparison test. Very in depth and the Stihl won.
I’ll have to check it out! This is also with a modified echo. Stock echo would never beat it!! Stihl is also muff modded
echo beast of torque and realiability very underrated
Definitely underrated!! The 620 pulls a 27” bar and at 60 cc that’s impressive!! Last forever too..
Agreed I had a 45cc echo loved it gave it to my father as a gift he’s still using it daily cuts wood with that and the 455 rancher but he really likes the 450 p echo
@Dylanmccutcheon747 the 450 was a very solid saw!! Not shocked to hear he’s still running it 👌🏻
60cc vs 50cc. Run the 261 vs the 501p. 590 is the same weight as a 462 and the 462 will smoke it!!
Not a fair comparison with 261 vs 501 lol that’s why I used 590 🤣 501 or 4910 don’t stand a chance
@Timber and Tools I like to compare on weight more than cc. Echo 590 is the same weight as a stihl 462. At that point the 462 is a really easy winner!
@@bluffsidetreeservice yeah that’s definitely true the 462 is an onslaught of power for its weight. The echo 2511 is one of the only echo chainsaws that is truly lighter and more powerful than the competition.
@@timberandtools definitely! I have four 2511t and absolutely love them. Echo has it with the 9010 leaf blower as well! Everything else I run is Stihl.
@@bluffsidetreeservice I have been really tempted to buy a 9010! Is it really worth it I already got a Stihl but many guys say it’s better than the Stihl
The Echo's chain is kicking out way more solid sawdust and running a head to head like this is crazy reckless. Consider chainsaw chaps when pointing bar ends at each other.
Right on friend 😎
So funny how grown men argue to death over chainsaw brands. With that said, it’s Husky all day😂
🤣👊🏻 I mean my 394 ain’t mad at this comment !
Should be 590 vs MS 362
Yes sir I understand what you are saying. I have a 362 as well
Nope, mid-grade consumer Echo 60cc vs Pro 50cc Stihl is plenty fair when stock.
I would love to know what it is with everybody in their chainsaw faster goes the better it is I'd rather have the torque than speed cuz I enjoy cutting wood I'm not in a big hurry to get it done quickly
It’s just a thing for a lot of people, I personally like a fast cutting saw because I am doing it for a living but I don’t always grab the highest badest saw I have I use the saw that is sized appropriately and enjoy it! I just modify them to get to thier full potential haha
I'm sure there's more to the story
There sure is my friend, this was just a clip taken from an echo 590 muff mod video. Even thought the Stihl is nearly 10cc less in displacement it was beating the echo before the echo got the muffler mod. This is used it to compare the before and after cut times… people losing their minds on this video a bit 🤣
@@timberandtools 👍 thanks for the reply
Эхо при низких отрицательных температурах не работает, а вот штиль отлично себя зарекомендовал
I can only imagine how cold it get for you guys !!!!
Sharpen both the chains and watch the stihl smoke it
Both were sharp, watch the full length video this clip is from 👌🏻
Run it against my 462 lol but i do love the echo top handle 2511t made by converted it to 1/4" chain ported it and it rips weighs sub 5lbs great for when I'm in the tree even take smaller ones down with it
Yeah the 2511 is amazing have many of them!! 1/4” swap is great on em…Believe it or not the echo 620 got beat by my ms400 same chain on them. Vid is on my channel! The 462 would smoke it though haha
Oh yeahhhh, I got me one o dem echoes
Great reliable saw!!
Now run it against an ms 362 with the same size engine.
I do have a video of the echo beating a 361 🤷♂️
I'M 72 YEARS OLD. I'VE USED DIFFERENT BRANDS OF CHAINSAWS IN MY LIFE. THE STIHL CHAINSAW IS LIKE THE DURACELL BATTERY. IT'S THE BEST. THATS WHY SO MANY LOGGERS USE IT.🤔
I love Stihl. They’re a heck of a well made saw!!!!
Thank you!!
The stihl was holding back
I was running the Stihl, believe me I gave her all she had lol
I have one of each. Stihl is weak. FYI Stihl does not honor the warranty. Echo from now on
To be honest I love echo but as a tree service owner I make a living with both echo and Stihl (261 400 462 500 660) model saws. Some saws can be problematic but overall Stihl has been good to me as well as echo
Yeah I still have my Stihl pun intended. But I rebuilt it for 1/4 of what they wanted to charge me for more than the price of a new one. My main problem was the idiot dealer did when they submitted it for warranty repair.
@@user-vr7fj2gb1t dealer support can make or break any brand!!!!
Both great saws, but not surprised. Own both, the echo is 10ccs bigger
For sure ! Both really a good and reliable saw
@@timberandtools amen, the 1st two saws I'd recommend to a friend to buy. Echo, then 261cm. Cs590 is a bargain
@@bing12345678901 no doubt, what bar do you run on the 261? I swapped mine to 3/8 20”
@@timberandtools I run 3/8 20" skip rapid super
@@bing12345678901 RSF 33 👌🏻
I have a echo 590 with a 20” bar and it’s stout good saw
Yes they take a licking and keep on tickin lol
All these experts in the comments clearly don't know much about chainsaws. Almost every major saw brand has entry-level, mid-level and pro grade products. A 60cc mid-grade saw is going to make power on par with a 50cc pro saw. It's a fair fight when stock. However, these are modified saws and the Echo likely has a carb that's been adjusted to match, so that extra displacement can help make up the deficit and edge out the Stihl. There's no replacement for displacement.
For sure! Both are carbed saws and adjusted. The Stihl is only 50cc but beats the 590 stock to stock that’s for sure. After echo is muff modded it wakes up alot
Apples to oranges if you are racing. Echo almost 10cc more. Plus its single piston ring which will create less drag and faster running motor. However will create more heat and may not last as long.
Kind of but in reality if you compared the 362 to the 590 it’s even more unfair. The 590 wouldn’t even be close to beating the 362 so……
I had three echos i didn't really care for i like the one sthil got ms271 i never had problem with and it will cut trees like nothing i took good care of them run 91 octane gas in them and keep good chains and bars on them
Stihl makes a great saw! I will say for sure, totally different feel. Echo very torquey and not as much rpm as stihl. I’m just about to upload a video with the 620 echo vs 400 Stihl and you’re going to be shocked haha. It’ll be up in about 30 minutes
Thank you 👍
Put a brand new chain on each saw and run it again
I don’t have a video but I have. Same results
Wie lange hält die Echogurke?
I’ve had this 590 for years, very durable saws
Echo wins with the price but a lil heavy..
Absolutely 💯
No an echo dealer within 100 miles of me, Stihl wins.
@@klappy803 yeah that makes a difference for sure
Echo is throwing more chips so it's sharper..
Both saws very sharp as you can see I’m not even dogged into the wood
New bar and chain echo,three weeks cutt😅 timber on the stihl. You decide.
Stihl cutting just fine. Echo had crap new saftey chain Stihl had full chisel non saftey chain too
Not a consistent test. Youd need machines to put same pressure and angle on them.
This is technically true but being a man that runs saws EVERYDAY, I can tell you this video is accurate. It doesn’t beat it by much but it does beat it. Yes it’s heavy yes it’s not a fancy saw but impossible to beat for the money they cost and the 620p is unbeatable for 60cc and 600$
@@timberandtools not saying it's not. But that's how it should be done.
@@CaughtSlackin_ yeah it would take some doing but it can be done!! To make something like that. Even on a dyno you can’t always tell. In the wood there cannot be lies told!
Duller chain on the Stihl, no 3 hp saw should be that slow even in hardwoods, plus the stihl looks like it’s actually done a little work
She’s actually 4 HP and yeah she’s cut a few trees maybe 1 or 2. I also find it really funny how everyone is saying that the Stihl chainsaw is dull. I have yet to see a dull chainsaw pull itself through the wood like that if it’s dull you need to dig into the log to cut, it won’t just pull into wood like that. Thanks for watching
The 590 has more torque behind it, completely different classifications of saws.
Absolutely, 590 has more torque than most 60cc saws in general! Yes two different saws but it was to show muff mod power increase. The 261 beat the 590 before it was modded
Who has echo parts? Nobody where i live for sure. There are sthil dealers in literally every hardware and power equipment store arround. Then again if your a pro you prolly already know.
Lucky for me. We have two Echo dealers pretty close. There are plenty of people who sell Echo parts as a dealer online. We also have a lot of Stihl dealers at the hardware stores but again lucky for me. We have a pro saw shop that sell Stihl
Guy is taking it easy and not pushing the stihl.Echo guy is pushing 😊
Echo was beat by the Stihl before echoing got muffler modification
Looks like stihl has dull chain
She was sharp, just seems like it compared to the echo, that echo is 10 cc larger. Mainly was comparing it to the 50cc Stihl because they were neck and neck before the muffler mod on the echo
Echo finished the cut and sthil was still in the cut
Indeed!
Brand new echo /old dull Stihl . You lucky echo started for u. Lol
Haha echo is reliable tbh
I'm surprised the stihl I s actually running
Hahaha hey now I make a living with Stihl chainsaws. Never let me down!! Neither do the echo 2511s🔥
When people say that steel is better than echo don’t know what chainsaws I will limit steals are good but they’re just expensive as fuck a echo you can get one for a little bit over $100 and I’ll last about 18 years and I’ll do a great soul
Hard to slam echo in the reliability and cost factors!! I personally love em but as you can see a lot of hate here for echo 😂
Echo when buying a chainsaw involves going to home depot.
@@gl9500 I buy at echo dealer. Not a HD lol. These saws are not comparable to Stihl for the price
Hmm one looks new out the box
Echo is newer but not new.
@@timberandtoolsnew bar and probably new chain on echo, thats why faster
@@goranpavlovic9051 both sharp, echo legitimately was faster after muff mods
@@timberandtoolsnicee. I love echo
@@goranpavlovic9051 me too really well built long lasting, reliable saws at a more than reasonable price!!
❤❤ l make my money with echo because is low price, and beast.
They are really a work horse chainsaw!!! Stay safe my friend
One is brand new one is well worked
That 261 runs strong as new still
@@timberandtools that’s not a new saw….
@@smallenginekid6252 correct but it DOES not make a difference this runs identical to my other literally new 261… what’s your point? Watch the full video on my channel if you want to understand this short
Stihl cuts faster than that it was prolly just dull
Same chain in both videos on each saw
berapa harga echo pak..
419 usd, ini gergaji yang bagus untuk uangnya. Modifikasi muffler dan carb retune adalah suatu keharusan!!
50cc Stihl vs 59cc Echo, so yeah, the Echo will win.
Yes sir, reason I compared these is before the echo was muffler modded the 50cc Stihl beat it
Ridiculously dangerous.
I mean I guess so, cutting trees for a living is as well…
@@timberandtools that’s hilarious you’re gonna try to deflect, I cut trees for a living too buddy I don’t do dumb shit like that.
Anyone who reads this comment understand that safety is cool and this guy isn’t.
@Saidwhowhen I’m not deflecting I simply don’t feel that it was unsafe with myself and the other guy. You one of those no one handing a chainsaw guys arnt ya
@@Saidwhowhen we do work safely that’s why we’re 7 years in with out workplace injury from a saw or anything else major. Don’t be a rude man.
Bar and chain brand new on the echo. The stil looks worn out. Come on really
😂😂😂 that Stihl is far from worn out ! It’s only 50cc it runs like a scalded cat still. Yes the echo was newer then, it’s also 60cc
Nice but echo had 1 hp more
You are right! The echo is 10cc bigger. I initially compared there two saws because before muffle modification the Stihl was faster than the echo. I did make a video this clip is from showing that.
59 cc vs 50 cc there is big difference
Oh, absolutely no doubt there is a big difference in the size of the chainsaw, this is a clip that I took from a full length video on my channel, and before the echo was muffler modded, the 261 was beating it. This clip was really just to show how much of an improvement that muffler mod makes on the 590.
Hmm a brand new echo vs a beat to shit stihl
The 261 isn’t really beat it’s just a little dirty. If you watch the full video of this on my RUclips, then you would understand what we were doing, was comparing how much faster it cut before and after which this video is after muffler modifications on the Echo
Put new chains on them then do the test
I could do that however results would be the same
Pickup both saws and handle them yourself. Toss them around a little bit. Then tell me with a straight face you should be comparing a 590 to a 261.
In fairness to cost and stock performance they’re very comparable, yes ones 50 and ones 60 cc but this is showing how strong Stihl runs
@@timberandtoolsNo they're not comparable. You want to compare heavy 60cc farm saws for occasional run times go with the cheaper ms311. Even echo knows this and the 50cc 501 is more expensive than the 590.
@@kalebbrown93 points definitely agreed but I’m only comparing cutting speeds… 501 would get killed in cutting speed unless it was ported against the 261
@@kalebbrown93 also the 590 is a commercial saw. It’s a split case and hold up for years of use. I really don’t love echo big saws I always prefer a Stihl, but gotta give em credit. They’re tanks
You can’t compare a 590 to a 261 🤦♂️
Actually the cutting time was exactly the same as the 261 if not a hair slower. So yes you can compare I fully realize that we are talking about a 50 vs 60cc saw but stihls 60cc saw and echos are so far away in price it makes it hard to compare those. Only 60 to 60 that you could compare is the 620p echo to the 362…. Which I am going to race them because I believe they’re pretty darn close. Stihl is 250 more than echo but that’s a more fair comparison
I take stihl all day long
I have 4 261s 😅 they’re killer saws!!! It’s just about keeping up with a 60cc saw!!
@@timberandtools yes sir
10cc is alot
It really is!! If anything this show how powerful the Stihl is tbh
260 IS THE BEST
260 is a legendary saw for durability and reliability no doubt!!
Lol 😅😅 once again Echo with new bar and chain and Sthil with old bar and dull chain .. I guess you can call it fair lol 😆
I know it must look that way because people keep saying it but believe me that chain is not dull. Dull saws don’t cut wood unless you dog into it. I am just holding the bar over the top of the wood here. There is a full video comparing these two saws if you would like to watch to further prove my point if not, no big deal. Thanks for commenting, and being here to watch the content.👌🏻
You are apprentice why do you use side by side very nearest risk of cutting each oneself
Not an apprentice, we are racing side by side…I understand you feel this was dangerous, we were safe and didn’t have any injuries…
Nri3
???
Mauvaise comparaison pas la même cylindré
50-60cc
😂😂😂😂😂 sharpen the chain on the stihl and the echo doesn't stand a chance. The only saw that can compete with the stihl is a husky
It’s sharp…. This is not the whole story, just a clip from a full length video
🤔
Before muffler mod the Stihl beat the 590 which is very impressive because the Stihl is 50cc vs. the 60cc echo
59 cc vs 50…….
Yes sir and also the 50cc Stihl was beating the 59cc echo before the echo got muff mod in the full video 👌🏻
톱날 새것으로 다시한번 오케
Both chains a hand filed by me neither has new chain
Lambo vs honda
I mean definitely two completely different animals here for sure
I don’t care if the stihl isn’t brand new. Echo always wins. Stihl is overpriced junk.
I LOVE Echo! Also love Stihl. Problem is most of stihls non pro series saws suck. Echo makes a good saw no matter the price range
@@timberandtools exactly. Couldn’t be more true.
Chain is very import no only tipe saw
Yes chain is, both saws sharp!
I’m not buy an echo.
They’re not for everyone. I have a few and are great but a total different feel
Proves absolutely nothing.
Haha it proves that a 60cc echo beats a 50cc Stihl 🤓
Echo sıfır makine stihl 10 yıllık
2 years old actually and it makes zero difference Stihl isn’t worn at all
Mentira
No lies here
Estaría mal afilada
@@juanjoseromerogarcia7902 it’s sharp believe me
Cria vergonha nessa cara.... Faça uma comparação com duas motosserras da mesma potência... !!!!!!!!!!
I compared these for a reason, no shame… fyi the Stihl beat the echo before the echo had a muffler modification 🤷♂️
Something is wrong with this picture
What’s wrong
Stihl is dull😅
Promise it’s not dull, ever see a dull saw cut without dogging it in to the wood?
@@timberandtools ok meybe not i just thought 261 should beat 590.. 😅
@@kmlp9663 it certainly did before the muffler mod. That’s why I use the saw to compare. There is a full length video that I made on the Echo muffler mod, showing the Stihl beating the Echo until muffler mod. They’re a great saw but need mods to run with Stihl. That 261 also was muff modded
@@timberandtools ok then great😁, saw with muffler mod is different animal, thanks for nice conversation 😊
@@kmlp9663 yes they really come alive with muffler mod and carb tune!!!! I also appreciate the conversation 🤙🏻thanks for watching 😎