The Supreme Court's Immunity Ruling Is Bigger Than Trump
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- Опубликовано: 30 июн 2024
- In a 6-3 decision, the Justices say that presidents, including Donald Trump, have immunity from prosecution for official acts, but not unofficial ones. What does this mean for the Jan. 6 case brought by special counsel Jack Smith?
1:48 - Immunity decision
5:45 - Majority opinion
10:00 - Break
10:05 - Sotomayor's dissenting opinion
14:00 - Jan. 6 case
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All pretty disingenuous stuff. Trying to pretend that it was a ruling 'for the ages' when the reason they weighed in is because of the behaviour of DT when in office.
More like the behavior of the Biden White house. We would not be talking about this at all if Biden's DOJ were not pursuing Trump for political reasons. Everything the democrats have done have backfired and this is one of those things.
“Rome, thou hast lost the breed of noble bloods!
When could they say, till now, that talked of Rome,
That her wide walks encompassed but one man?
Now is it Rome indeed, and room enough
When there is in it but only one man.”
Shakespeare stole that from me.
Shocking!
I’m worried this ruling will have unintended consequences consequences. In general I’d favor weakening the executive rather than strengthening it. I think this analysis was pretty fair and balanced.
Both sides should agree: this is the worst thing in modern american politics. The entirety of American history has been about avoiding a king/dictator
Both sides should agree: this ruling changes nothing and simply reaffirms the separation of powers laid out in the constitution. The executive branch, led by the president, is independent of the judiciary and the legislature, and the president can not be punished or censured for exercising his authority.
Good news for you, we still don't have a King or Dictator, and the law is still sounds today as it was 200 years ago
@@CedarHunt the presumption that any action is offiicial and taking intent and other context out of the decision is very significant.
Intent is almost always used in trials, in order to be found guilty of many crimes they have to be able to show intent, other times it differentiates the severity such as manslaughter vs first degree murder.
Under this ruling if Biden had trumps lack of morality he could declare Trump a terrorist, seal teal six him, and arrest anyone who protests. And it would be entirely legal because those were orders from the official capacity of the president. It would require a house and senate impeachment to then hold him accountable. Nobody is above the law, nobody should be unfettered.
@@sshumkaer incorrect. They literally won their court case by arguing their client could have legally ordered the assassination of a political rival and declared it an official act. It's lunacy to defend that
@@CedarHunt No. The current SCOTUS is an activist body. The overturning of Roe, their slow-walking of this ruling to undermine the DC case against Trump's insurrection, and now this all point in to an inescapable fact. This is an activist court which has abandoned originalism, textualism, and even precedent to further a novel and un-American world view. They rule against women's rights, voting rights, and from the bench they have now legislated a broad new presidential presumption of immunity, AND actual immunity. They have set us up for a future of dictators. One waiting in the wings right now for November.
Where can we go when the SC is corrupt? That was the last resort and now what?
On the topic of "punishing disabled, victims of trafficking, victims of domestic violence, foster youth, elderly and families with children" this law induces a stress response, fight or flight, through fear conditioning, with the constant threat of being criminalized for not having a place to retreat to. It will indefinitely cause PTSD, mental anguish, anxiety, stress, and depression. States can and should be sued for intentionally inflicting fear conditioning it is unethical and inhumane
Unduly cautious. Raise your hand if you think that Trump has ever been unduly cautious.😂
I think Trump will order the removal of Sottomayor, Kagan, and Brown from the Court at his earliest convenience, and he will use every power in his new dictatorial toolkit -- including to Seal Team 6 -- to do it. He will politicize the DOJ, and make it a tool of the President to enact revenge. He will try Liz Cheney for treason, and many others. If Roberts crosses him, he'll be out too. He will suspend the next election after he drums up a panic, and when he loses an election ... well, you already know the playbook . If you REALLY want to know what is going to happen under a next Trump presidency with this broadened immunity, you must now sit down and study how dictators rule.
Some of the most biased "analysis" I've heard outside of oann
Glad they ruled this way as it should be, executive branch is a co-equal division of government and is elected by the citizenry. So this does a good job of defining the roles. Only OFFICIAL acts (acts in the official capacity of the office) are excused. If they did not do this, it would turn the US into a complete banana republic where each administrative change of opinion would end up jailing/prosecuting previous office holders. Just look at history for the last 4000+ years to see how well THAT has done.
I suspect that just about any act a President takes, perhaps even including taking a dump, will be reframed by legal staff into OFFICIAL acts. I suggest you read the Sotomayer dissent.
This is exactly what I learned in Constitutional Law in College and in my Masters. And it's not even hard to understand. There is official business that a person only understands because they are part of the government, a president. They make Treaties, Seek Trade Agreements, Strong Arm other governments, and so on. In those most of the time SECERT conversations with world leaders need always to be protected.
Anyways there are other actions that aren't official, they are not protected like if I murder my wife.
Of course the flip side of that argument is that a President could get away with almost anything, which our former president is doing as we speak.
@@sheckyfeinstein zero flip side of the argument. He wasnt then and isn't today.
@@sshumkaer Putin and Trump? I don’t trust either one for a third of a second.
Who are these clowns?
Knowing how zealous American political activist are -? If Trump lives long enough to see Nov 5th I would be highly surprised. Scotus has started a civil war only Biden has the power to end this political mess.
Nah, SCOTUS didn't start a civil war. Are you threatening Trump's life?
Biden doesn't have the power to finish a sentence we all saw. it was in all the papers.
Zero truth to that.
@@brianferris1233 Biden needs to officially request seal team 6 to eradicate the insurrectionist threat
We need everyone to vote blue up and down
Two people died on Jan.6th in furtherance of an official ACT?
Bot
One is caused accidently by the so called Capitol police & the other police died from Stroke aka (Annurism)
All the police were clumsy that day. That is why they got injured.
@@olivern4784the capital police instigated the unrest
Democrats either lie or are just ignorant
As an attorney, these commentators are disingenuous and completely disregarding the immense danger that this ruling poses for the future. WSJ is def on the wrong side of history.
As an attorney, you are either incompetent or disingenuous.
Did you even read the majority opinion or the case law behind it?
Or are you emoting based on your political views?
@@randallfox8920 ok clownshoes
Two dead at the Capitol Jan.6th an official act?
only 1, an unarmed civilian female got shot through a door by a male capitol police officer
🎯🎯
I wish you would quit stating a lie. The only person who died that day was one of the protestors who was shot and killed by one of the Police protecting Congress. There was one Officer who died several days later from a stroke which happened during the Riot. You should concentrate on the dozens of people who are shot and killed each week in Chicago, Washington DC and many other large cities in this country, which is a real tragedy.
Commenters acting like they all work on the New York circuit
Lets unite the country like trump did Jan.6th😂
He neede to find 11000 votes to upend a legitimate election😢?
he isn't going to win. This type of immunity has always been there for all Presidents it hasn't changed. It's not a win for republicans only that it's another delay.
It's a win for the first amendment which validates the democratic nation we have. It's a democratic republic and it stands on the Constitution and the first amendment for all people. This is why Biden can sue all States with strict abortion bans as he already is going to do and is doing. Please pay attention to what really happened. Please stop assuming things.
Congratulations! You now have a dictator.
obviously you didn't pay attention in your junior high school classes on the constitution. Perhaps you should re-read?
Congratulations! You now have a ridiculous take.
@@jeffcook2570Congratulations, Biden you have immunity now, please these United States of America!
Biden? so far not yet! He is suing all States with strict abortion bans
@@mansakaasi4909 is that supposed to be English?
Abosolute power corrupts absolutely 😢
Power is Power. And when the undeserving feel they have some, it does not corrupt, it reveals.
Asking for extra constitution fealty an official act😂
Nothing wrong with the ruling. As for Trump vote for who ever you want. He wasn't popular then and he isn't popular now.
This woman is wrong and a fool. We never had a problem before or needed any court to decide on this.
we never had a President refuse to let go of power before and we never had a President who was willing to use his fans to attempt a government take over.
She is right on, that is the law.
You people need to educate yourselves!!!! Your comments are histerical 😂😂😂😂
Thank you, assuming that I understand your correctly lol. It's over the top
Trump promised to try Liz Cheney for treason. He will empty the DOJ and we will see a wave of political prosecutions to serve a man whose concept of power derives from dictators. The immanent realities of living under a dictator should, at this point, wake up every American from these shallow denials.
Wall Street bites
Thinking it's time to consider a reversion to the articles of confederation.
That's not thinking, it's stupidity
Your commentary is so biased. Unite the country and make neutral statements.
No Biased, it's just the law, besides this is the opionion page. Go cry some place else.
No one is above the law.
Looking for votes to turnover a legitimate result an official act😂
Seek help
@@jeffcook2570there was literally a recorded phone call
@@polyseed12 first, I said seek help at their inordinate amount of the same comments everywhere. This person posted the majority of all the comments here. I picked this one randomly.
Second, did he try to turn in illegal votes or something? Or was he telling his team to go through legal avenues to find votes? If you're going to argue the former please be specific to what laws he broke.
@@jeffcook2570 oh God, as if asking the governor after the votes have been casted to make up votes to sway the election isn't specific enough
@polyseed12 is that what he said? "Make up votes"? Or did he say "find me" the votes? There are legal avenues to find or disqualify contested ballots. You know this is far from the first time it's been done, right? Oh God yourself
The vote was over trump lost the election he ACTED OUTSIDE OF THE RULE OF LAW😂
He didn't, he was still president, and although not professional conduct, the law protected everything.
@@TC-zf1ji 100%
Two people died Jan.6th in the Capitol in furtherance of trump protecting democracy
No only one did
Weak & gullible GQP snowflakes agree 👍
Exactly, 1 not 2 and the one who died was killed by capital police
@@rogerwelsh2335 Trump killed her
Sotomayor is an embarrassment to the legal profession.
she's sick of the delays too like we all are
another Russian troll - gotcha
@@Cherrylipgloss2025
Proof that you support political lawfare, NOT Justice.
Two died at the Capitol in vain in pursuit of an official ACT?😢
Only 1 person died, by that statement because 1 or the 2 was a protestor.