There are theories that Subject 11 is actually the 11th primarch sealed in the dark cells of earth and heavily guarded by the shadow keepers branch of Adeptus Custodes. The Shadow Keepers are Basically 40k's SCP
18:25 there have been small mentions, if i recall correctly there has been one (or two) occasions where one of the primarchs mentioned a character trait of one of the lost primarchs, Horus in a confrontation with malcador tried to say their names, but was cut off when Malcador basically force choked him. other than that we don't get a lot (as far as i am aware at least)
Dorn did speak of them. He has perfect memory, so he was confused why he couldn't remember the 2 lost bros, even tho they fought together. It's revealed that thee primarchs had their memories wiped, and had psychic seals put on them so they couldn't remember. Dorn figured out that Malcador was behind it. When pressed he revealed that Dorn was the one who gave him permission to mindwipe him and Guilliman (who also knew them and agreed to the mindwipe). Malcador briefly restores his memory of the 2 and 11, and Dorn breaks down and begs him to erase his memories again. When he was still a loyalist - Horus tried to say their names, but Malcador force-choked him with psycher powers and almost killed him for it. Whatever it is that they did, apparently it was so bad that it would've doomed humanity worse than Horus Heresy.
13:04 there is a difference between sorcery and psyker powers, though given the imperiums doctrine they are often put into the same category, during the horus heresy there were people who were aware of this too, jagathai Khan for example on his planet had a tradition of using psyker powers and the warp carefully and sparingly, not going fully into sorcery like the thousand sons and Magnus did.
2:51 unfortunately those are fan art, not official, we don't truly know what those statues looked like, in the scene were they come up they were already being taken down and their faces were not describes (as far as i'm aware)
10:41 To add some context here, remember how the primarchs were cast into different planets and they were basically raised differently in the planets they landed? Well the emperor got their genetic material to make the space marine legions, so every legion was able to act without their primarch for some time.
9:44 Damnatio memoriae is something that has happened in the real world as well, usually though something remains, one statue that wasn't destroyed but fell into a river for example, or a mention on the walls of a tomb, the things you see in the stories of mindwipings, sealing the primarchs memories and destroying their statues, as well as the integration of their legions into other astartes legions all point towards it. There are many possibilities as to what happened, but knowing that the emperor at least in part saw the primarchs as tools for his conquest it may imply that to him they were no longer useful to him, not even for propaganda purposes.
Big E: You enjoying yourself? Uniting galaxies and clutching in battles for the imperium? Having yourself lil blade ear baddie? Robot G: YES FATHER! Big E: yea I don't agree with having Xeno Elf ho as ur piece. U know what happened to your 2 brothers for doing that. No buts Robot G: ok dad... *Guts theme playing**
24:05 not so much, if the emperor wanted to send a message he sent leman Russ, if he wanted them completely removed, even purged them from history he would have sent Lion El'jonson and the dark angels as the Lion was known as the exterminator and most of his exploits haven't been documented because he literally burnt everything to the ground and made sure the planets he destroyed wasn't remembered because he purged everything about them
The 2 misisng legions were cleared out by the space wolves wich are the emperor's exucutioners, but there were other times where they have been sent to attack the leigions, such as when they attacked the 1000 sons, because they were secretly experimenting with magic, the only reason why they are still in history is because managed to run away in to the warp, for Lorgar he almost got excuted by the space wolves as well, with the emperor himself saying that he will sent the space wolves to destroy Lorgar's legion for creating a religion for the emperor, the only reason why they survived is because the primarchs tole the emperor to show some mercy, so they were given a better fate than the other missing leigion ( which was getting their churchs destroyed by the ultramarines). Gene flaw couldn't be the reason for the execution since the nightlords also had terrible gene flaws, and the emperor knew about this yet still keeping them alive. My theory is that since in the picture the second leigion was shown to have glwoing eyes which means he probably have some connection with warp magic, which probably made the second leigion secretly using warp magic, leading them to be wiped out by the space wolves. For the 11 leigion I do not have a theory for them, but the reason why they got wiped out was probably because they were doing something that is not allowed and having connectin to chaos. The reason why the horus heresy was not deleted from history books is because they needed a reason to why sanguinius, and the primarch of the iron hands died, and also to learn from the flaws that mankind made in the horus heresy and learn from it, such as in such desprite situations like in the heresy space marines need a reliable armor yet still easy to make and don't require rare materials. So in the end ALL recording of legion 2 and legion 11 has been deleted.
So the real reason why there is no information on the 2nd and 11th legions is that its a way to enhance the game for the players. Games Workshop left these slots open for players to be creative and create their own legions as the 2nd or 11th. Having no info allows players of the game to create their own stories, their own bespoke legions and get immersed in the lore. Why are there 2 missing legions, well I assume that's so one can be loyal and the other traitor.
There are theories that Subject 11 is actually the 11th primarch sealed in the dark cells of earth and heavily guarded by the shadow keepers branch of Adeptus Custodes. The Shadow Keepers are Basically 40k's SCP
18:25 there have been small mentions, if i recall correctly there has been one (or two) occasions where one of the primarchs mentioned a character trait of one of the lost primarchs, Horus in a confrontation with malcador tried to say their names, but was cut off when Malcador basically force choked him. other than that we don't get a lot (as far as i am aware at least)
Dorn did speak of them. He has perfect memory, so he was confused why he couldn't remember the 2 lost bros, even tho they fought together.
It's revealed that thee primarchs had their memories wiped, and had psychic seals put on them so they couldn't remember. Dorn figured out that Malcador was behind it. When pressed he revealed that Dorn was the one who gave him permission to mindwipe him and Guilliman (who also knew them and agreed to the mindwipe).
Malcador briefly restores his memory of the 2 and 11, and Dorn breaks down and begs him to erase his memories again.
When he was still a loyalist - Horus tried to say their names, but Malcador force-choked him with psycher powers and almost killed him for it. Whatever it is that they did, apparently it was so bad that it would've doomed humanity worse than Horus Heresy.
13:04 there is a difference between sorcery and psyker powers, though given the imperiums doctrine they are often put into the same category, during the horus heresy there were people who were aware of this too, jagathai Khan for example on his planet had a tradition of using psyker powers and the warp carefully and sparingly, not going fully into sorcery like the thousand sons and Magnus did.
2:51 unfortunately those are fan art, not official, we don't truly know what those statues looked like, in the scene were they come up they were already being taken down and their faces were not describes (as far as i'm aware)
10:41 To add some context here, remember how the primarchs were cast into different planets and they were basically raised differently in the planets they landed? Well the emperor got their genetic material to make the space marine legions, so every legion was able to act without their primarch for some time.
9:44 Damnatio memoriae is something that has happened in the real world as well, usually though something remains, one statue that wasn't destroyed but fell into a river for example, or a mention on the walls of a tomb, the things you see in the stories of mindwipings, sealing the primarchs memories and destroying their statues, as well as the integration of their legions into other astartes legions all point towards it.
There are many possibilities as to what happened, but knowing that the emperor at least in part saw the primarchs as tools for his conquest it may imply that to him they were no longer useful to him, not even for propaganda purposes.
Mind wipe is a beautiful thing. They are mentioned several times by primarchs are talking amongst themselves in the Horus Heresy books
Big E: You enjoying yourself? Uniting galaxies and clutching in battles for the imperium? Having yourself lil blade ear baddie?
Robot G: YES FATHER!
Big E: yea I don't agree with having Xeno Elf ho as ur piece. U know what happened to your 2 brothers for doing that. No buts
Robot G: ok dad... *Guts theme playing**
24:05 not so much, if the emperor wanted to send a message he sent leman Russ, if he wanted them completely removed, even purged them from history he would have sent Lion El'jonson and the dark angels as the Lion was known as the exterminator and most of his exploits haven't been documented because he literally burnt everything to the ground and made sure the planets he destroyed wasn't remembered because he purged everything about them
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The 2 misisng legions were cleared out by the space wolves wich are the emperor's exucutioners, but there were other times where they have been sent to attack the leigions, such as when they attacked the 1000 sons, because they were secretly experimenting with magic, the only reason why they are still in history is because managed to run away in to the warp, for Lorgar he almost got excuted by the space wolves as well, with the emperor himself saying that he will sent the space wolves to destroy Lorgar's legion for creating a religion for the emperor, the only reason why they survived is because the primarchs tole the emperor to show some mercy, so they were given a better fate than the other missing leigion ( which was getting their churchs destroyed by the ultramarines). Gene flaw couldn't be the reason for the execution since the nightlords also had terrible gene flaws, and the emperor knew about this yet still keeping them alive. My theory is that since in the picture the second leigion was shown to have glwoing eyes which means he probably have some connection with warp magic, which probably made the second leigion secretly using warp magic, leading them to be wiped out by the space wolves. For the 11 leigion I do not have a theory for them, but the reason why they got wiped out was probably because they were doing something that is not allowed and having connectin to chaos. The reason why the horus heresy was not deleted from history books is because they needed a reason to why sanguinius, and the primarch of the iron hands died, and also to learn from the flaws that mankind made in the horus heresy and learn from it, such as in such desprite situations like in the heresy space marines need a reliable armor yet still easy to make and don't require rare materials. So in the end ALL recording of legion 2 and legion 11 has been deleted.
So the real reason why there is no information on the 2nd and 11th legions is that its a way to enhance the game for the players. Games Workshop left these slots open for players to be creative and create their own legions as the 2nd or 11th. Having no info allows players of the game to create their own stories, their own bespoke legions and get immersed in the lore. Why are there 2 missing legions, well I assume that's so one can be loyal and the other traitor.