Astrophotography With The Sky-Watcher Evoguide 50ED
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- Опубликовано: 6 сен 2024
- The Sky-Watcher Evoguide 50ED is a guiding scope, but how well can perform when used as an imaging scope for astrophotography on a budget?
Let's find out.
2:34 - Eyepiece Projection
5:23 - DSLR/Mirrorless camera in Prime Focus: Moon and Sun
9:50 - Planetary astrophotography with a planetary camera and a Barlow 2x lens: Jupiter and Saturn
13:29 - Deep Sky Astrophotography without a flattener: M31 & Sadr
18:47 - Deep Sky Astrophotography with a flattener: Pacman Nebula
Here is the video review I did for the Evoguide 50ED: • Hands On Review Of My ...
If you want to know more, and how it compares to the William Optics Redcat, I suggest you read this in-depth review I wrote: nightskypix.co...
My ASI294MC Pro screwed directly to the Evoguide field flattener with out of the box 17.5mm spacing should work, but is 2-3mm short on "IN" travel to reach focus. I haven't tried my ASI462MC yet. When sure, I'll trim the tube.
Supergood video breakdown of the Skywatcher Evoguide 50ED. I should have seen this earlier! 😎 But at least I know now why I couldn’t achieve a focussed image
Very nice video and very instructive for new guys in this field like me. Thank You.
Really good and helpful review. I've been considering this for my lightweight deep sky rig and I found this very useful. One comment- I use a 183 sensor based camera, and I've found by using a higher gain (=lower read noise) I can go deep with higher volume of short exposures and this has removed the need for guiding, simplifying my field based set up.
I bought the 50ED as a guide camera, but did not really know how to set it up. Your video made it easy to know several ways, I can use it! Very happy with your video.
Thanks
Great little scope, i was getting the skywatcher 72ed but im going for the 50ed for the wider field of view, have a cooled camera to use with it, i kove wide field shots
Mine just arrived today along also with the Flattener. Thanks for showing all the options Now I need to wait until all the clouds disappear to test it out.
Nice video. Very concise, factual, very good images .... Nice job.
I'll probably be getting one of these. Thanks for posting it!
Glad it was helpful!
Great explanation. Thanx :)
Glad it was helpful!
What an informative video ! I just purchased an EvoGuide telescope and found your presentation very helpful. Thank you for giving me a look at all the scope’s possibilities.
Thanks for watching
I just purchased an ED50 and the Starizona FF and I'm really excited to start imaging with my APSC and MFT mirrorless cameras on my Star Adventurer!
Cool. Let me know how you like the starizona ff. Is that the new version?
@@andreaminoia2002 Used it a few times now, and it seems to be pretty good! I'm still pretty inexperienced (and I'm using an old modded mirrorless with no PC connection) so my images aren't perfect. I am using the new version of the FF
@@AdmiralSym you will see... keep pushing it. It is a great little scope
Brother thank u for your insight every time I watch I learn something new
thank you. appreciate
A M are you still using the ASI 183 color. Camera. What’s your opinion for DSO using the Evoguide after a few months use. I ABSOLUTELY love my EVO. Watching your videos help me justify $pending for a High Quality ,Multiuse Scope .... NO Regrets.... I even got a used Skywatcher 100 Ed ...... NO regrets. .... my 1st scope was a SCT Celestron Nexstar 8 .... the EVO was my 1st Refractor ... I can see why people like Refractors vs SCT....sending positive vibes from the Bronx NYC 🇺🇸🇨🇴🇺🇸🔭✨🌟💫
Great information best video I have seen on this .. THANKS
Thanks
Thank you for the great video, having just ordered the 50ED as a guidescope a few hours earlier, I was pleased to see all of the options you showed in the video, I do a lot of camping & have both the Star Adventurer Pro kit & the SAM mini adventurer, so I am glad I went with the choice to buy the 50ED too...
Hi. Thanks for watching. Hope you will have fun with your new Evoguide
Yo dawg. I herd you liked guiding so we put a guidescope on your guidescope so you can guide when you guide. (That meme is dead, but it was too good of an opportunity to pass on). I'm currently using an Artesky 32mm f/4 guidescope (130mm FL). It's working really nice, but I saw a video from another guy talking about the 50ED and how it could double as a wide-field telescope as well as a guidescope. Your video answered many of the questions I had (including how it would work with a field flattener). Looks like field-flattener and DSLR is a no-go, thank you for pointing that out as well.
Thanks. Well, the starizona has just released the second version of its evoff field flattener: it is now cheaper at 99$ and it promises to have a 55mm backfocus, enough for dslr. You may want to contact starizona for more info as I haven't tried it yet
Great instructional video, well done
Glad you liked it!
Quite nice.
Great video
Thanks!
Great review. Thank you.
I have this scope. Beautiful quality accept the helical focuser which is a bit gritty and the tension lock doesn’t work so well.
Mine is quite smooth. A bit gritty but is more of a feeling than a real problem. Focus adjustment is smooth in my copy and the focus lock works fine. I guess quality control is not that consistent, same as the star adventurer thanks for sharing your experience
great video, thanks so much.
Thanks for watching
Excellent video Andrea, I'm putting this together to use with my AZ GTI in EQ mode (and thanks for the information about that) and I'm thinking about automating the focusing with a ZWO auto focus unit. Have you ever investigated this possibility?
hi, thanks. no, sorry, I have not look into auto focus
Super mate ;-)
Thanks
Awesome
Thanks
Very good tutorial, but why not akar 180 mm super apo for almost the same money? I bought it three months ago for the same reasons and I'm happy. Very little chromatic aberration and no stars distortion on the borders also with full frame.
I am not sure it was available at the time of my video. Is not that long ago I got to see this brand going around.
Nice video bro, could you help me, please could you send me the link of your dovetail and base for finderscope, and i have a ASI224MC camera if i can use that camera for deep Sky. Thank for your help
hi, thanks. here is a link from an european store: www.astroshop.eu/accessories/artesky-polsucher-halterung-fuer-skywatcher-az-gti-montierung/p,62729 I saw something similar on aliexpress, but I can't vouch on the quality
Hi Thank you for the nice review! I have a question: With the setup at 9:50, how do you reach focus with the camera attached? I think you still have to use the focusser for that..
Does that field flattener, and your camera, have M42 threads? Also, does it thread on all the way with your ZWO 1.25 filter adapter? Thank you.
Yes, I connect all via threads. with the filter adapter it does screw almost all the way in. I never had problem with the backfocus
Molto interessante!
grazie
Hi, awesome vid. Very comprehensive.
I'm thinking of buying this scope, but I want to use it with an APS-C DSLR. Can't you use the flattener with the DSLR and get good image quality?
Hi. Thanks. Unfortunately as far as I know, there is not a flattener that it is suitable for dslr. And probably there won't be.
Is it worth the investment using the Evoguide 50 ED with a guide scope? Are you dithering with your ASIAir controller and the AZ Gti Mount in equatorial mode?
It surely is worthy. I don't dither as it takes long time. But I never had walking noise in my images.
nice
Loved this! Noy clear why you couldn't use a filter wheel though? Could you explain?
thanks. I may be wrong, but as far as I know a filter wheel goes between the camera and the flattener. If this is true, the limited backfocus of the skywatcher field flattener is not enough to accommodate the filter wheel.
@@andreaminoia2002 ohhh Thanks!
@@victormachado3405 the starizona field flattener evoff, though, has longer backfocus so it may be doable to use a filter wheel
Thank you for the help this is great! Could you provide a link to the adaptor so you can add in the 1.25 inch filters?
Either you use a 1.25" nosepiece or this agenaastro.com/zwo-t2-1-25-filter-adapter-t2-1-25-3.html which usually comes with the camera
Hola Andrea. Excelente review. He recibido recientemente el evoguide50, y está en camino el aplanador de campo. No encontré el link de los anillos y el soporte para la montura en 3D, en la descripción. Podrías facilitarmelo. Muchas Gracias. Javier
Encontré el link. Gracias
Can i use a filter in the T adapter of the astro camera or it wont reach focus?
You can. Zwo has a low profile t2-1.25" adapter. If you take the evoff flattener you can stick the filter on a 1.25" nose piece or use a filter draw/filter wheel
Thanks for the video Andrea. Is there not a mft nose-piece that will put the sensor closer to the telescope.
Hi. Thanks for watching. Unfortunately if you need a flattener there is nothing you can do other than get the starizona evoff. Maybe a barlow lens will let you achieve focus but then you will have to deal with the increased focal length. My suggestion is to go with the evoff from starizona if you want to image with the evoguide and a mft camera
@@andreaminoia2002 Yes, of course you are correct, I see that the flange distance for mft is 19.5 so even a thin adapter isn't going to help. This is a shame because adding the Evoff doubles the cost and is going beyond my budget at the moment.
@@nickdsnik1675 ok, let me do a test tomorrow ... I didn't try personally to combine the SW flattener with my olympus mft. I will tell you what I can get
Hi. So no way to focus my olympus with the flattener. I don't have a short enough adapters that could do the trick
I like that setup. Where can I find a mount like that?
Is 3D printed from astrokraken.fr
@@andreaminoia2002 Thank you. I have one of those scopes and would like to set it up like you did.
Hola buenas tardes dónde puedo comprar el enganche de SkyWatcher 50ED
hello. the brackets are 3D printed from astrokraken.fr (france). i bet there are similar solutions available now
Good video review, nice work and useful information! If you test it with a camera like 120mm-s or 224mc that has 1/3 inch sensor you should not have any field curvature or astigmatism problems, I tested this with a simple achromatic telescope of 53mm Aperture and 190mm focal, problem with this guidescope you can't focus with a dslr, maybe only with adapters. I understand you can use the evoguide 50ED also with dslr but will not focus with the Skywatcher flattener, (because of to much backfocus) if i buy the Arizona flattener will work with my Nikon d7200 crop sensor dslr? I mean if i will be able to focus?
Thanks. No the starizona will not work either. It allows to focus only with mirrorless camera, which have much shorter flange-to-sensor distance than dslr.
@@andreaminoia2002 You did not find any other flattener that will work with a dslr? i found another guidescope 60mm ed from ts have to check that out also, i want to make a video review with a guide scope that can be used also for imaging, I have also an Astrophotography channel, you can check it out if you have time.
To my knowledge the problem is the limited backfocus of the evoguide. So I don't think there will ever be a flattener that can allow focusing with a dslr.
@@andreaminoia2002 I see, i am curious if there is a good scope that can be use also as a small telescope with a dslr, and have also flattener and provide good quality for dslr and astrophotography cameras. Thanks for the reply, and Clear sky!
@@GalaxyArtMedia there are plenty: William optics Redcat z51, William optics z61, all of the TS photoline, there is a vixen 55 I think. It is all about how much you want/can spend
I have this scope, it's a small APO doublet with 242mm focal length at f/4.8. I would like to mount my Nikon D750 to it. I know i need a field flattener, but what else would i need? An M48 adapter ring? Could i mount it without a field flattener, i would crop the images anyway? How to achieve focus?
You can connect your dslr to the scope and achieve focus, but only a very small central part of the image will be usable. Even with my asi183mc (1" sensor) have to crop quite a lot to avoid field curvature to show up in the image. Starizona claims its new evoFF V2 can flatten the field and achieve focus with a dslr. It does cost pretty much as the flattener from skywatcher (which does not work with dslr), so you may want to send a mail to starizona to see if is now available (to me they said mid July this year... but you know is a crazy period worldwide)
@@andreaminoia2002 thanks for the reply, that's a shame. I will look into the Starizona FF. In the meantime, i will probably try and use this scope for autoguiding, with the ZWO ASI 120mm mini and PHD2 if possible.
@@aerozg it is a guiding scope so no problem to use it for guiding :)
@@andreaminoia2002 apparently, the Evo FF v2 is already available at the Starizona website, but the shipping costs and import duties to EU would cost more than the thing itself :/
starizona.com/products/evoff-field-flattener-for-skywatcher-evoguide-50ed
@@aerozg i would check with them... the available now is there since months and in June they told me they should have it ready by mid July. I live in EU too so I'm keeping an eye at teleskop-express.de who had the 1st version. Try contacting them to see if they plan to have the new version.mind the high price tag you see on their site refers to the older version that was way more expensive than the new version
This video inspired me to get the evoguide for astrophotography, however I noticed that in your photos there's little to no chromatic abberation, I just used mine to take pictures of M42 but theres a lot of chromatic abberation in my pictures. Is there something wrong with my scope? I didn't use the field flattener for the pictures I just took
Chromatic aberration is also affected by focus. Make sure your focus is as good as it can gets.
@@andreaminoia2002 alright I'll keep this in mind when I take more pictures
For the price of the field flattener, I can get the evostar 72ed.
Hardly. The flattener from skywatcher is less than 100 euro. The one from starizona is less than 200e. Evostar is more than 350euro and still need a flattener.
Need the link for the mount
www.astrokraken.fr/bracket-system-for-skywatcher-evoguide-50ed-a185445792
One question about the filter. With the filter ring installed it should shift backfocus by 3mm... So, instead of optimal 17.5mm we get 20.5mm. How much of a problem is this?
Mmmm are you sure? The t2 tread is shorter than the 10mm ring in which you fit the filter adapter. It does not affect the backfocus, in my experience
@@andreaminoia2002 it does. After inserting the filter I am unable to screw it in fully. It's not 3mm difference though, but still, backfocus is affected, which is why I am asking about your experience
@@alexandrubarbovschi942 with the asi183mc have no issues
@@andreaminoia2002, just to double-check - with ASI183MC and filter installed you are able to screw in fully? Doesn't work with my ASI533MC :-|
@@alexandrubarbovschi942 no I miss 1mm or so. I just checked
Does the Field Flattener reduce the focal length of the Evoguide and by how much???
Hi. Both the skywatcher and the starizona evoff field flatteners do not reduce the focal length.
Thank,
How do you recommend using Staraid Revolution B guide camera attach to the Evoguide and the Flattener as a Auto Guide Scope
You don't need the flattener for guiding
Where did you get fixed rings small enough for it? I can't find any.
Hi. those are 3D printed by astrokraken.fr I don't know any other solution that does not involve the classic adjustable rings for guiding scopes. www.astrokraken.fr/bracket-system-for-skywatcher-evoguide-50ed-a185445792
@@andreaminoia2002 thanks for this. I just found out from SkyWatcher that starizona.com has a 3D printed clamshell with guidescope bracket on top. Anyone interested should contact Starizona as it is not currently listed on their website.
@@BrotherAlan cool. Thanks for sharing the info
Can I use 1.25 to 2 adapter for this evoguide 50ed?
Sorry for the late answer... I missed the comment. As far as I know the answer is no. Only the small 1.25" filters can be used.
That guidescope is 1.25inch or 2inch?
1.25
or could just6 purchase the evostar 72 ed, much better!
Is not the same class of instrument, you spend more than twice the money, etc.
Bello il video, però si sente che sei italiano, consiglierei di migliorare la pronuncia e renderla più fluida
Thank you for the video. It's great!!
On the Starizona website they have the new version 2 field flattener for the 50ED (EvoFF v2), cheaper than v1. Have you been able to prove it? In the specifications they indicate a 55mm backfocus. Do you think it would work well on a mirrorless camera (sony a6000)?
starizona.com/products/evoff-field-flattener-for-skywatcher-evoguide-50ed
Hi. No the flattener is not yet available. They claim so also in a mail I sent them. But have not first hand experience