The War on Sensemaking, Daniel Schmachtenberger
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- Опубликовано: 15 сен 2024
- What can we trust? Why is the 'information ecology' so damaged, and what would it take to make it healthy?
This is a fundamental question, because without good sensemaking, we cannot even begin to act in the world. It is also a central concern in what many are calling the "meaning crisis", because what is meaningful is connected to what is real.
Daniel is a founding member of The Consilience Project, aimed at improving public sensemaking and dialogue. The throughline of his interests has to do with ways of improving the health and development of individuals and society, with a virtuous relationship between the two as a goal. Towards these ends, he’s had particular interest in the topics of catastrophic and existential risk, civilization and institutional decay and collapse as well as progress, collective action problems, social organization theories, and the relevant domains in philosophy and science.
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This guy just summed up our entire culture in 2 hours. I've never heard the modern information clusterfuck put so eloquently. Bravo
hear here!
Hope you check out all his talks...but for the average human being,sadly, they will never hear this......look at all the distraction detritus for us all to consume...Big Boys would not permit any radical change anyway...but I do love listening to our language being used as it can be.
@@markwallinger5801 do not despair, friend! My heart goes out to you.
I refer to it as The FlusterCuck because I'm pretty sure we're going to fuck up the fuck up
I am saying this guy is absolutely brilliant.
I'm only about 17 minutes in, and I think I've sprained my neck from nodding so much. Truly provocative.
I keep yelling out YES! YES!
I love hearing this guy speak and I wish he had his own podcast. Truly one of the greatest thinkers/philosophers of our time.
He did have his own podcast but it was mostly on health it’s called the collective insights podcast. I think he stopped hosting though but you can still find the early episodes where he was hosting. I really liked him as a host and thought he asked good questions. Probably my favourite podcast host and I watch a bunch them
He battles with ME-CFS or adjacent type CFS kinda condition. NVT, an amazing, exemplary human being.
"Almost no-one who has fervent ideas, has a good epistemic basis for the level of certainty they hold". YES, YES, YES, I see this all over the place. Great to hear it articulated like this. I feel.... almost....fervent...
That was extremely powerful and thought provoking
The density of ideas in this man's speech is so much greater than average I have to pause the video every other 5 minutes to digest what he's saying. To have such a great density and volume of ideas flow out of himself so quickly yet so coherently, this man is a genius.
This interview should be mandatory required viewing for all educational institutions.
If educational systems weren't part of the brainwashing machine, I'm sure they'd be interested.
This would never make it to the curriculum. Americans need to be as clueless
Agree
I (teacher) am currently watching this with 18 year old students. To be honest, it isn't going as well as I had hoped. It is incredibly hard for them to wrap their brains around the concepts discussed. I think there are a couple of reasons. For one, it is kind of advanced stuff (my students aren't native English speakers which doesn't help). Second, they don't have the real world experience to, for example, know enough about the fucked up things that have happened in politics, economics, war etc. So there is a lot of context missing that would be required to understand some of the examples. Third, students at that age basically have only learned to accept authority as truth which is natural for young children but then is mostly carried over into general education.
The real frustrating thing is that one won't have much more luck with older people because then you have to deal with people being set in their ways and world views and also being heavily involved into rivalrous dynamics themselves which then creates cognitive dissonance when seemingly advantageous and comfortable concepts are threatened.
@@cataMailman Thank you so much for this real-world reply. You're awesome.
Do you think there is a chance that some of this will click for your students in the future and then they will have a resource they can rely on when they have questions?
Wow. 100 seconds in and I don't feel insane for the first time in a long time.
Nice break.....like fresh air.
Yes, what a relief - that someone sees clearly!
I humbly submit that the simple and absolute answers to all of the points raised in this video (and many more) are given in my book "THE HOLY GRAIL IS FOUND" and my "A Course in Truth" RUclips video series, which is currently ongoing. And it all rests upon my having found the foundational reference point of absolute Truth, which is symbolized by the "Philosopher's Stone" of ancient legend. For more info give me a "click."
Turning the tv off helps
Tom Rhodes I haven’t been able to locate “A Course in Truth” and do not see it on your channel.
One of the most lucid presentations I’ve ever had the pleasure to absorb.
The great thing about Daniel is while many people on Rebel Wisdom, The Portal, and JRE are "very smart intellectuals", some seem sort of icy, ego driven, or pretentious, trying too hard to seem erudite. But Daniel emits a really warm, at-ease vibe AND is brilliant at the same time. He's really likable in his DEMEANOR, not just his intellect. He attracts peoples' emotions as powerfully as their minds. A rare gem.
omnino bene !! 🙂 xactly the words i had in mind : >>
I found this really self assuring. I say this as a person who is often told that I over think, and don’t make sense to the majority. This is an Excellent information channel. Tank you.
Hi there, I've been told the same thing, even by family members, it can be difficult being an outsider.
No, tank you.
Not making sense to the majority is a sign your on the right track.
Careful that you don't actually overthink though... thinking is not the same as sense making, suspending thought and placing attention elsewhere often allows new insights and the opportunity to break out of thought loops
I’ve been thinking like him for about twenty years.
I constantly get into conflict, even with people whose position I agree with, because they don’t like it when I tell them,
'I can see why you might want to believe that. But. You don’t actually know that. How about we check it?’
And then they lose their shit and start calling in a priest to conduct an exorcism on me.
Being cautious about positions which are too comfortable is a great way to lose friends.
But these are the friends you need to lose.
I wish more people could actually, really, understand this when partaking in discourse.
I couldn’t have put that better myself.
Unfortunately most people have their hands full just putting food on the table. They simply don't have the time to dig deep, just like they don't have time to double check and cross reference every news story.
@@hanamlchl Being a *good citizen* takes time, and sadly..many don't have it. I think a lot of people these days just don't have the disire to really think at all. Autopilot is a problem.
@@RunninUpThatHillh I call is the static fuzz. The same feeling they get when they watch the TV. Its thoughtless and everyone gets used to that feeling. At least that's how I have observed it before. Autopilot is a good word for it.
THANK YOU Daniel. Just because critical thinking has not been taught in schools for the last 40 years doesn't mean it doesn't still exist!
@@lkyuvsad depending on where the school tows the party line. If it's a Christian school, they might dogmatically hold on to conservative views. If it's a secular school, they might dogmatically hold on to liberal views.
@KAOS NATION What evidence do you have for this claim?
@@elevatedaspirations I'm just applying the framework here consistently. You want me to take your word for it? Sorry, no can do because this guy told me not to. I need evidence, not unsubstantiated claims made by anonymous people who are just pushing an agenda. Without real evidence, this is just another propaganda claim.
Unless what you are saying is to question everything... except those things you already agree with. Which is what everyone else is already doing... so, just keep doing what you are doing. Sheeple.
@@elevatedaspirations So... when asked to present evidence, you tell me to consult google? As if search engines don't have a bias? As if each and every single link on there doesn't have a bias? Wow, you fail hard at being a real skeptic--at least you've not shown me any evidence that you are a very good one.
Maybe I'm just too skeptical that anyone can actually be a skeptic. But, that's just rehashing what Augustine said in the 5th century.
@KAOS NATION Try cross referencing this guy scam.... Ergogenics Nootropics... Neurohacker !
Please make sure this man gets on multiple platforms as soon as it's getting really bad out here. Really 👌
This guy and Jordan Hall
@Stanton Cree Hmmm.... I would suggest that the core issue might not be the duration, nor the acceleration of the simulation, but rather the willingness to participate in it.
Free will is TOUGH to achieve, and even tougher to maintain. The process never ends.
Most people, even people who are commenting here, would much rather opt out, even if they pretend to/talk about opting in.
He did
Mercy, a breath of fresh air in a “smoke” filled room. A deep gulp of cold water in a dry barren land.
How beautiful you put feelings into words.
The masses are unable to comprehend at the level necessary to affect improvement. The few who are are too few to affect change..it's the nature of life..unfortunate but true.still it's comforting to know they are out there...bravo to you sir!
The problem (at least in the US) is that our federal government is too powerful. If local governments had the majority of the power than small groups could make intelligent decisions based on their specific circumstances.
thespACEchannel : I agree . We do not need a majority to turn this around, or actually re - boot . We only need a handful of persons with clarity & integrity .. and they are already here 💫 They cannot be bought or corrupted , because they have no agenda 🤔☺️😊
A dog a chicken and wolf deciding what to have for dinner is majority rule/democracy without trying to be cruel most people are dumb yet we employ a system that let's that group make all the important decisions for society as a whole. Does that sound rational?
Caveat I mean dumb in the political awareness and world affairs sense.
@@BarbaraMerryGeng spot on...check out. Xtheresistance.com i reckon they have the same idea as you..cheers
Only thing more lonely in this world than a genius, is an honest genius.
stolened.
the most agreeable idea ive ever read in a comment thread.
Yes, if that genius is also insensitive to others. Having information about someone or something, is not reason enough to use it in a hurtful way. So be as smart as you want, as long as you try to be nice, then you wouldn't be lonely.
absolutely..i love spiral dynamics!
Which is why this moron gets so much attention?
Daniel Scmachtenberger has an amazing mind, and explains important complex things with an unusual clarity. Particularly about cognitive bias and self examination. The analogy about how our eyes work together is a brilliant insight into how sensemaking between entities should work.
He is a scam artist
@@timeWaster76 why do you think that
I agree I just have a good feeling about all that he is saying
timeWaster76 lol 😂 at best you’re true to your “timeWaster76”
I wonder why he hasn’t published more. His written work is conspicuous by its absence. His website acknowledges this rather self-consciously. His thinking is certainly compelling, but it would be good if it could be subject to peer review via the conventional channels of academic scholarship.
This might possibly be the most valuble lesson we can teach in our schools
Well, you can teach it to the school, but the school won't teach it to the children if this teaching clashes with the local government (business model) 's long term agenda. Just look at the "non-binary gender" doctrine that is spreading like a virus through all the public schools in every (westernized) country now. It is making more trouble in the world than there already is; and then backing this up with the feminist-movement is just growing out of hand; causing problems between men and women (the very source of human life on earth) .... this has to stop. Women have equal rights as human beings as men do. Men should also have equal rights that women do, but sadly women have more rights than men now; however, the point is that the "non-binary gender" conspiracy is not about "men vs women" at all - that is their context hijack weaved into this mess; making people believe that "gender dysphoria" is "perfectly normal", same as "homosexuality". This is even growing to the point of pedophilia... - and if you dare challenge their doctrine they throw in "oh so you're saying that women should have less rights than men?" - calling you a chauvinist and a bigot. How much more can we take before we've either had enough, or the whole damn human species is corrupt?
@@lkyuvsad
I'm not sure, but if I had to guess and extract values/lessons that I think are good,
I'd say:
1) humility of opinion. That is, recognizing a difference between what we know vs what we just think we know.
I think this quality brings the temperature of contentious discussion down while increasing recieveable/reciprocal communication.
2) the ((value) neutral) recognition of propagandistic / information warfare prevalence in addition to some ((value) neutral) tactics.
Add to 1) or at least a sense of the spectrum on which those 2 lie.
The modern education system is a dead horse for intellectual development. It's designed perfectly for its purpose-- to indoctrinate. The best learning you can do is outside of the indoctrination camps. We need to learn, as a species, how to garner information on our own. We can't trust government run institutions to teach us anything truthful. Just look at the history curriculum! It's laced with misinformation and myth.
To quote from a great Aussie movie, "The Castle"....Tell 'im he's dreamin'.
Daniel: it is rare these days I come across one new, fresh, valuable thought. You are offering dozens, just in the first 25 minutes of this video. So amazing. Thank you for your deep thinking and calm demeanor.
This is so extremely valuable. The thoughts of this man demand wider exposure.
Half way through this (need to work now), brilliant. Can’t wait to finish it. But will need multiple listens and a notepad.
Too many news shows pose questions as binary questions when that isn’t the best question model for understanding.
And set up "false balance" in which unqualified contrarians are given equal consideration.
Elisa Rolston, unfortunately, as part of the dumbing down of the general public, even binary thinking is asking too much. The complexity of figuring out grey areas is not emphasized anymore. We are fed sound bytes of information and have been for so long it’s all most of us can handle. Soon enough we will hear the death rattle of any independent thought that goes against the status quo.
Binary questions are good. It's just the questions that are bad
If you support trump your everything evil. Binary statements.
It’s common in pre-K and w kids. When offering the illusion of choice, it’s usually “do you want carrots or lettuce” - not, “what do you want to eat” (open ended and potentially unhealthy/disappointing if one doesn’t have the provisions to adequately provide for all of the creative ones choosing dragons and/or cheeseburgers as their choice in snack.) If one presents limited options, like a snack choice of only carrots and lettuce, a few may still want to eat dragons/cheese burgers - but they are highly likely to not request them statistically.
If an option is never presented, it’s usually not requested as a solution. This is not good if one wants to respond effectively to a world w narratives and agendas. (Critically thinking for self goes out the window for group-think and approved topics for discourse)
The controlled opposition + the presentation of the problem, funneled into a (usually) binary illusion of choice, constitutes a lot of our issues today bc the sensemaking is narrowed and confined to a model of understanding that doesn’t actually address the problem(s) at all. Merely bandaids to keep political/economic narratives in power.
I don't even know why this showed up on my feed, but I'm glad it did. Good for me, good for you! Subscribed.
Marvellous! Daniel, you are a gift. Gratitude and respect.
This tracks well. I have been processing this content for over 63 years. My heart is lightened by seeing this. Good to see that people are burrowing into truth.
Amazing interview. More Daniel Schmachtenberger, please! .
I have thought about all of these topics for many years and so far I agree with 100% of what has been said - that's a new experience for me! :)
Thanks so much. I will be passing this video on to many people online - it's probably just helped me save 5 years of life that I would otherwise spend explaining fragments of this to others.
Haha quite startling
“Almost no one who has fervent ideas has a good epistemic basis for the level of certainty they hold. There is a de-coupling between how much certainty they have and how much certainty they SHOULD have through right process.” (39:30)
This is part of why I’m drawn to Jordan Peterson’s work, because in one moment he’ll say something profoundly wise with great confidence, and in the next he’ll honestly admit “I don’t know” or “it’s not clear.”
"General Semantics" of Alfred Korzybski can boost evaluation skills and give a real hard time to manipulators.
David W That’s a good point, JBP is fudgy, and defies the usual categories and camps. My sense is that this is not calculated for an audience, but that he (like all of us) isn’t finished figuring things out. He’s a public figure, but that doesn’t mean he’s “done”, he’s on a journey too. And people “in the middle of things” (particularly ones who are trying to be honest) will likely sound vague. He thinks out loud a lot... and exploratory thinking is pretty different from pronouncement or preaching... he’ll swap between all of those in one talk. So I’m not particularly bothered by the fudgy words, and I honestly like the mysticism. The fact that he’s at least trying to combine experiential/participatory knowing with scientific knowing is admirable.
@@UNaMon Many people say they believe in God while their actions contradict their beliefs. JP for the most part reasons like an agnostic. He's a 'non-believer' on an intellectual level, but he nevertheless chooses to act according to the same principles as the believers. His point, I think, is that belief is not determined by what you think or say, but by your actions.
@@maelstrom2313 I'm a Christian, and I'm very familiar with the approach that "belief is all about mental assent, and if you talk too much about actions you might be a legalist..." I wearied of this. I found JBP's "honest doubt" combined with principled stoic action to be quite refreshing in contrast to the head-on-a-stick disembodied style of Christianity. I've used Peterson's test (turn down the volume and just WATCH what you DO) and found it to be very revealing of my own hypocrisy. And that's genuinely helpful. I can tell he's not an orthodox Christian by standard measures, but I'll take insight wherever I find it.
Daniel fast becoming one of my favorite people around. Binging his appearances to soak in all the knowledge!
I have the most bizarre experience while listening to this podcast. Daniel eloquently describes how I have thought about and dealt with issues for a long time now, without having a concrete and well-defined story for myself. He just told me that specific story which has eluded me for so long, for which I have shut myself off, even though (some of) the pieces of the puzzle have been known to me.
Really grateful for this synthesis of ideas!
I too had to stop a few times to say "Stop talking for me Daniel." Only to be followed by a smile and a laugh.
Probably the most profound and impactful sharing I've ever heard.
Thanks to you both for delivering this.
Well put!👏
I humbly submit that the simple and absolute answers to all of the points raised in this video (and many more) are given in my book "THE HOLY GRAIL IS FOUND" and my "A Course in Truth" RUclips video series, which is currently ongoing. And it all rests upon my having found the foundational reference point of absolute Truth, which is symbolized by the "Philosopher's Stone" of ancient legend. For more info give me a "click."
Man! What an Amazing content! Thank You and Congratulations guys! Top notched guest!😁😁😁
That man has a beautiful Intelligence. Glad you interviewed him, thanks!
I see his emotion when he’s trying to clarify the truth of the truth, this is how I often feel when speaking about sense truth with friends family, I know they may hurt or be frustrated from lack of understanding but I can’t speak in their misinformation ways
1:10:50 Wow! The story of my life being pulled into one “in-group” to the next, but finding that at its foundation, none of the groups could offer a comprehensive explanation. Rhetorical and emotional manipulation - I questioned to the point of hitting this wall in every group. This is amazing to hear a high level description of what I’ve been experiencing my whole life!! Feeling so thankful that I was never compelled to buy in to any of the groups.
Wow. This is THE BEST thing I've watched in quite a while.
You sir, have a superlative intellect and have awareness of topics ive heard few mention. Please be careful, sharing truth can.........
The whole sequence from 1:07:00 about authoritarian religious structures rings so eerily true it makes me want to cry. Thank you so much for putting into words the existential terror that I feel I can never escape from. I can’t ever tell if my fear of god is from an actual impression he’s made upon my consciousness or my deeply instilled fear from since I was a child, and it’s literal torture some days. I feel completely trapped, and hearing Daniel’s explanation just puts things into perspective so clearly. I just don’t know what to say right now.
What specifically makes you feel trapped? What are you afraid of?
The truth of Yeshua/Jesus can only be known through a personal relationship with him. Not through church. Not through taking on the ideologies of those who purport to know the truth he embodied.
The Bible can only be understood in context of language and culture of the times it was written (over the course of thousands of years) in its totality and within that personal relationship with him. But you have to have a heart for it, it has to be genuine. If it's forced, you'll only find confusion and pain.
If you WANT to explore this, just call his name and ask him to show you the truth.
This is one of the best, most informative and inspiring interviews I've seen in a while. It was literally pleasurable to experience Daniel address such a broad range of topics, complexity, etc. in such a clear and balanced way. I'm keen to learn more about his work.
I don't know how I missed this guy with all the content I have watched.... he is on fire with brilliance and I can understand what he is saying!!! Awesome stuff.
Many of the observations made here have occurred to me at some time over the years, but I don't have the skill to pull it all together and articulate it this clearly. I particularly was drawn to his observations that we are not a noun but a process. How many relationships fail because of this missing awareness. We suffer because we do not know reality. Loved this talk. I am sure I will come back to listen again many times. Thank you.
I’m loving how this is making people think!
Whats unfortunate is that,at least now,an extremely small percentage of the world,especially the first world...will access,understand,and pass this on...at 66,i just discovered Daniel about a month ago and have watched 6 or 7 of his talks...As a biologist,natural science student since a child....i and we are seeing where the converging technologies over the next 10 years...the ongoing environmental degradation,globally,and the accelerating RATES of change...though i love his brilliance....over my head in many areas but i just see the entrenched religious believers...at least half the world with the belief in an after life....for one...will not understand or care about where his intelligence is trying to lead us...i love the guy but the world is unbelievably complex,as are the combined complexities at all levels.....but i feel shits gone too far for too long...i really hope i am wrong,for the future of all life.
GRATITUDE for this interview Daniel and David.
Perhaps the best video released by rebel wisdom yet.
they have another video with daniel too, both are equally amazing!
Wow, just wow. I've been trying to scratch at this, doing research for a while, studying behavioral biology and social psychology only to find this guy explain it so well. Great video is an understatement!
This is one of the most accurate analysis I've ever seen on the origin of almost all our socio-political and economic issues. I'm very thankful for this 🙏 I've been looking for this message for a very long time.
At the very end, Schmachtenberger's description of his vision of humanity's alternative sounded very familiar. So here's the serious question. What was it exactly that we found, in the Star Trek series and movies, to be so repugnant about the BORG?
Throw in A.I. and the rapid advances in medical prosthetic technology, the potential for the reality of the Cyborg is upon us. Was the BORG not what he was describing? What made the BORG evil, the arch villain?
In its later iterations we came to understand there was one personality at the core of the BORG directing it, so that it was not mindless or random. But is that not the basis of the example that he gave of the cooperative process of the many cells that make up the human body? Are we not each a personality that gives continuity to the sum of the cells?
And, most importantly, is it not the person, the continuity that transcends even deep changes in belief systems, the locus of individuation itself? He says that sense-making is not possible in the context of tribes and/or nation states, but based on the final analysis, why? Based on the model given, why is it not possible to coalesce around lower resolution commonalities and still construct the future of cooperation among all of humanity? Heart cells make up the heart, skin cells make up the skin and so forth and so on. Are those not "tribes" of cells, all directed from the original neutral stem cells?
There is still a huge piece missing from this analysis, albeit a brilliant summation of the structures of human interactions, and the structure of the structures we build.
Best comment I've read so far. Nothing really to add but a lot to think about. Thanks.
If you give the example of stem cells: even these stem cells are being connected to lineages of information outside their physical scope via epigenetics and the on and off switches on genes that react to environmental feedback, triggers etc. so no man (stem cell) is an island. If you further your argument of a physical system in thinking, why not think along the lines of wholesome good health of a single organism that is based on truthful exchange and a system that ensures that the individual unit and the whole can survive - ideally optimally. And even in this setting, we have (on a CNS level) neural branching, neural development that will stabilize health under one premise: truthful exchange and communication. A lot of this video deals with this foundational question IF in fact we live in an environment where truthful exchange with the premise of furthering individual as collective life is a given - or not (and for what reasons). Rebel wisdom. ☺️
the BORG exist in a world of extreme dullness and uniformity.
Indoctrination is a powerful tool be it the Borg or any other cult-ure.
> Based on the model given, why is it not possible to coalesce around lower resolution commonalities and still construct the future of cooperation among all of humanity?
~"What is it in our vast libraries, that everyone can agree on? Whether an anthropologist or a zoologist, we can find agreement within a subset of knowable things." - Irving J. Lee.
What you're looking for is called General-Semantics.
This presentation, however helpful, is, as you intuited, still a proper-subset of the situation.
General-Semantics will tell you ALL maps about a territory are only ever maps; no amount of words can ever *be* the apple, etc.
I agree with Daniel-in-the-video about the need to develop a spirit of self-development.
In addition to that, that development MUST be in accordance with the idea that the only content of knowledge is similarity-in-structure.
A map, when appropriately interpreted, can either exhibit similarity-in-structure to some facet of the "real world", or it cannot. Maps of the latter category are unfit for human survival and human sanity.
How refreshing to listen to your ability to intelligently artilculate this message. Truth, vulnerability, empathy and logic all critically essential to the survival of our species. Happy to share your message.
If only more people would feed the mind with similar content.
very nice to see lots of wow!! comments.
A very talented teacher indeed who’s words and ideas penetrate to the very core.
We all owe it to each other to share this with all who will listen.
Brilliant! Please share this with everyone who will listen. So important. Love this channel, love what Mr. Schmachtenberger is sharing. Let's make some sense, yo!
Thank you Daniel. There has just been too much noise to make anything out lately.
The environment has such an effect on each individual so we need to surround ourselves with an environment of sense. We will find it by critical thinking and not being biased.
I'm making this comment only 10 minutes into this video.....
this is really incredibly interesting stuff .
ive kind of been aware of this for a while but daniel articulates this down to tee .
As always Daniel has expressed himself with fantastic clarity that resonates through and through!
Bloody hell, there is too much depth here.
I actually can't absorb all of this rich information. I appreciate trying to break it into sections, that helps. However, I found myself overwhelmed trying to take notes, and not many of them even make sense to me when I look back at them.
This is a me problem though. Thank you so much for such illuminating and mind-expanding documentaries.
He is a scam artist....
Praise God there remains one absolutely reliable source of information, containing all wisdom, truth and providing the perfect manual for life . . . I am speaking of the Bible.
This is exactly what I've been trying to decipher for the past 20 years. Simply brilliant.
Wow Rebel Wisdom, this guy just broke some ceiling in my brain, that i wasn't evn aware of. Thanks, i'll need 2 regurgitate on this material
Me too I’ll try to look for the pieces
@@michaeljarrell1336 Schmachtenberger - Jesus 2.0?
ruclips.net/video/eh7qvXfGQho/видео.html
Oh yeah, when I first heard Daniel, I had to slow the playback speed back to normal, and it was/is still challenging attempting to process all this information he relays.
I humbly submit that the simple and absolute answers to all of the points raised in this video (and many more) are given in my book "THE HOLY GRAIL IS FOUND" and my "A Course in Truth" RUclips video series, which is currently ongoing. And it all rests upon my having found the foundational reference point of absolute Truth, which is symbolized by the "Philosopher's Stone" of ancient legend. For more info give me a "click."
*ruminate
🤗
Ha. Learn something new every day. I assumed by "regurgitate" you actually meant to "chew the cud," as a cow would, regurgitate the cud so she could chew it some more. Upon defining "ruminate", I found this to be definition number two. Def #1 is "to think deeply about something." So, there we have it. (I wonder when the first definition was added. Wish I had an older dictionary.)
(Oh, wait, this is the information age. There has to be a words-and-definitions tracker somewhere.)
Anyway, cheers 😃
Important, interesting, illuminating and activating.
For the future society and its collective intelligence.
This is so important. Thank you for facilitating a paradigm shift.
One of the best guests and chats Rebel Wisdom has done. Daniel Schmachtenberger is super articulate and his ideas are literally mindblowing yet pragmatic. Thanks Rebel Wisdom for this awesome video.
When reducing speed, one can extend this videolecture to almost 2.5hours of fun.
What a pleasure!
Fun, and for me - understandable ^^
I'm very impressed with this presentation.
Good work Rebel Wisdom
'Everyone wants to be buff but no-one wants to lift heavy ass weights' Ronnie Coleman.
And now this abosulue legend :D
Lightweight baby! Yup Yup!
Its everybody wanna be a bodybuilder not everybody wanna be buff
FrntRw Nice Quote. Perfect 👌
Three minutes in and I'm totally hooked on what he is saying (even though he has hardly begun...).
MR Daniel S. And to all who helped me hear you. Thank you. I shall keep replaying your " class" till I understand.
As I traveled to over 50 libraries in 2009, I learned something from one librarian at Salt Lake City Public Library who stated that over 80% of many libraries are fiction. Seriously? Why aren't people interested in reality/truth? My favorite quote, from a famous author who obviously undestood people, "Truth is stranger than fiction." Samuel Clemens (aka Mark Twain).
This is wonderful. Without honest critical thinking, it's difficult to have good conversation.
I'm looking for critiques on Daniel's ideas , because what he says really resonates with me, and I believe the next best thing is to get to the best possible critiques on his ideas. I'd love to get some links to articles, videos or anything, so please share them if you know of some!
Daniel had a conversation with Eric Weinstein on his podcast called "The Portal," where Daniel belives humanity's long term future is best achieved through radically altering our current society and its dynamics (what he calls Game B) where Eric believes we need to find a way to break the Einsteinian speed limit to escape to other planets. They give each other plenty of healthy pushback, and it's worth watching/listening if you have 3 hours.
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your comment is the first that made me want to park this thought beneath,,, as someone who does deploy fantastic fiction in and about my everyday life... i.e. story creation, picture making,,, day dreaming? ... and then throwing, rolling , dropping, sliding those fiction containing things, be they pictures, films, texts or wooly jumpers,,, into the path of my everyday everyday to real effect (so warm!)... ,,, i wonder about the acid virtue of honesty burning through my ship. ,,, DS is v.good. ...oh am i sunk? ... oops post modern feedback loop. UNLESS i believe my creations to have hard boiled integrity. oops* oops* 'post modern integrity alert - are you kidding youTHself??' ... i must say a prayer to be freed from it.... or concentrate on something else. meditate? haven't listened to this talk for a while. VGud. is that a critique or just an oblique dunch. ...? comments are things i write late at night. rarely.
I was reading the Old and New Testaments and it occurred to me that it was a historical account of idolatry. If I look at it through that lens the nature of man is to try to become free by rejecting God only to then have to free himself from the tyranny of his own ideas. When man is only accountable to himself then man is not accountable. The failure to acknowledge God results in the replacement of God with a counterfeit that allows for personal ambition. Unless the problem of pride is addressed then pride will be mistaken as the solution for the problems and not seen as the cause. Any ideas that prop up pride will become an alternate world view and promoted as the ideal- sometimes with eloquent propaganda and other times with savagery. Both have the end goal of self promotion and both are leading us towards our own destruction. Hence Hell is not a deterrent so much as it is the result of prideful ambition. If that were to deter us then it would function to our advantage much more than pride.
Absolutely loved every second of this, thank you! True nourishment for the brain and soul.
What an amazing broadcast. This guy drills and drills through every concept refusing to accept anything in pursuit and the real and the truthful. The interviewer simply is along for the amazing ride.
I HAVE NO WORDS THAT CAN EXPRESS MY GRATITUDE FOR THE CLARITY GIVEN TO SENSE WHICH IS OFFERED IN THIS POST. 💝💝💝
I love Daniel's work and eloquence, but damn that was a lot of words to basically say:
'People and organisations will lie to you'
😂
> People and organisations will lie to you
It can be distilled to just:
People will lie to you.
Which should be remixed into a relational form:
Sometimes a person will lie to you.
Captivating, insightful and crystal clear. Now, how do I mold this into a talking point for my personal agenda?
Now, tut tut tut 🤨
actual LOL
When you get the ideas in the video down pat, you will be a star at any dinner party. Woman will love you and men will be impressed. Win win.
First, you must reveal your agenda, so that I may ascertain whether it conflicts with my own. If it doesn't, I will share with you the relevant information in away that forwards my own agenda.
@@tcorourke2007 Man you can talk some bullshit. LISTEN, ffs, when you get the formula to make sense of all the noise you might haver a better understanding of how to make sense out of all the noise.
Wow, the whole section on memetic complexes and propagators, ecosystems, etc really raised my awareness. (And it's so correct.) Thank you, Daniel.
Brilliance in my ears! The best for a while, and not ducking even Malthus! Love it!
PROFOUND
Everybody capable of understanding the issues he describes should listen to this!
This is great and, for so many years, I have endeavoured to help my students to deveop a capacity for critical thinking and critical reading. This talk relates so well to my experience.
When all you had to do was drug them
Bottom line he is selling various forms of snake oil. He has studied Neurolinguistics enough to be dangerous. He is doing exactly what he is warning you to avoid. He has all kinds of marketing and social media paid scientists and snake oil developers. people behind him selling fake medical cures.... they are called " Neurohacker Collective" I really like the way he slipped the capitalism angle ... tells you who he intends to swindle .
There is a huge amount of distortion in almost every aspect of what is stated as factual in our world of this time in our history. Most of it is created for plausible denial on what the factual truth is.
The spread of confusion brought on by spoon feeding the general public information by way of the schools systems, media, entertainment industries and among other stated intellectual outlets are overwhelming for a reason.
Trends of how to think are created and one becomes manipulated to conform or to believe what is authorized by those who claim to have the power of authority.
The reason for this is to benefit those in power to keep their positions, strongholds and systems intact. Fear of ridicule, percussion and attacks on persona are the most powerful means used to pacify clear analysis of logical thinking. Greed and ego rules the state of humanity of this world. Only to wake up from this state of being will reveal the truths in order to free your mind and make this world what it could and should be.
Bravo!
And ousting the diabolics is step one.
Imo 🙂
(Someone said, "usurious parasites," which is quite appropo.)
And this guy is no different
Bottom line he is selling various forms of snake oil. He has studied Neurolinguistics enough to be dangerous. He is doing exactly what he is warning you to avoid. He has all kinds of marketing and social media paid scientists and snake oil developers. people behind him selling fake medical cures.... they are called " Neurohacker Collective" I really like the way he slipped the capitalism angle ... tells you who he intends to swindle .
Yeah, I had an intuition while watching a short clip of him (barefoot again ;-)), JW and J(G)H (I think, is the third) on a couch together (incidentally, the longer clip of that should be up today or yesterday here on Rebel Wisdom), and that intuition was to beware, they're teaching us a new method of allowing ourselves to be mind-kontrolled/indoctrinated - ahem, excuse me, persuaded.... by teaching us to open up to another's viewpoint. My paraphrasing is a bit of a butcher job, but it goes back to JP's Rule (also paraphrased) of "always assume the person I'm listening to knows something I don't." Anyway, the clip I'm speaking of was the Omega method or Omega rule or something, also here on RW.
Every time I think I've found something I can really use, the diabolics have gotten there looooong before me and convoluted the system/knowledge. It's very frustrating, just as they intend.
@@tiffanyhackerspace8377 I feel you! There's always a 'baby in the bathwater'. Doing all I can just trying to stay sane in the wake of all these paid messy-i-ahs. Gee gadz!!!!! A wise man once said "walk softly and Carry a big stick." That's still a keeper for now. 🥰😂😉
@@timeWaster76 the call to action is a meme in of itself.... from a game theory perspective the impulse would require a little lubricating. The current narrative is a cancer to the accomplishment of plan B... it’s like Daniel is a white cell looking to self replicate and form emergent properties once critical mass is reached in a transcendental fashion... to kill the cancer of a code that’s set to debase the substrate that was just a given when plan a was playing out
“Narrative warfare”
I have a new favorite phrase.
...aaaand a new least favorite idea.
How about 'Pollution of the information ecology'?
aka. discourse setting...
Lord ballsac the 2nd
I don’t know who the “you” is that you’re addressing... but I can assure you it’s not me. What you’re describing is very common among the neurotypical population, indeed it might very well be their defining characteristic. But it is quite simply *not* the way my brain is wired.
I’ll explain it in two words.
Asperger’s syndrome.
@@stvbrsn There is also a great number of thinkers, scientists and intellectuals that remain quite astute and engaged right into very high age.
How about, "Bubblegum Battlefields?"
I can't believe I'm only discovering Daniel now, but nevertheless am I in absolute gratitude to have so. Thank you everyone who are involved in this consciousness, and higher. It's an honor to be with you
Makes sense😆! Seriously, I greatly admire Schmachtenberger; he is clearly gifted with synthesizing and integrating a huge amount of information/knowledge and utilizing words to explain complex issues with ease and flow. Thank you Daniel🙌
*sits cross legged on a chair and drinks from a jar* lol, I like this guy. Good presentation of meta-thinking, if that's a word. I'm willing to bet he's a tripper.
Have you ever experienced reading a book, and something you read makes your thoughts go off on a tangent, and one and a half page later you realize that your eyes have scanned all the text but you haven't actually absorbed any of it?
I get that a lot with this video. What he is saying is so thought provoking that I keep getting lost in thoughts in stead of listening.
Your subconscious is recording it.
Yep. and the same was happening with this video.
TOTALLY !
try watching it first thing in the morning when you wake up before you even check your phone or do anything else except making yourself comfortable
Try his 3.5h talk with Eric Weinstein . I fell asleep twice and woke up to deep truth both times
Hi Daniel, the question in the end: "what type of information processing has to happen between humans that allow for error correction on any individual's perception ..." is for the development of science & technology well investigated in this book: "Pandora's Hope (Latour 1990)". In my own research I've been investigating how to use those insights to build infrastructure (ICT, procedures, etc) for sensemaking
This is one of the most fascinating videos I have ever watched. If only people would stop listening to politicians, religious idiots, motivational speakers and other con men, and listen to this instead - we would all be better off. Thank you for making it.
This is one of the rare articles which actually advanced my understanding. Subscribed.
Some points:
1. Simplicity is a nuanced word. To simplify some transactive datum/informatum on the level of the datum/informatum will induce complexity elsewhere in the context - possibly as an externality. However, to abstract to the components of the system that generates the datum, not only simplifies, but provides the method for all other simplifications within the context of the system that generate such data/information. This is because most complexity is generated by systems made-up of simple components - so you simplify to the component without introducing noise or externalizing complexity. This is what Einstein meant when he said "simplify as much as possible" - it is also what Occam was trying to tell us.
2. You really can't talk about "agency" without also linking "advantage". Agency is a static concept, while advantage is a dynamic, and non-linear concept .. then you have to talk about potential and discharged advantage. There remains a gap between potential and discharge that remains entirely unknown to any philosophy or science that I have found.
3. I find it useful to include the understanding that the Bayesian method is noise-reducing. Living systems employ the Bayesian trial/error process to reduce noise. Daniel Wolpert had much to say about this, and is worth a look-at.
4. For those few of us who actually read scientific papers about climate-change, I find the potholer54 youtube channel has rounded-up a good sample to get you on the right page. And it is best to read them. Planetary climate is a mathematically chaotic set of systems. Chaos is not entirely opaque, you cannot predict where they WILL go, but can predict where they CAN go. I recommend the complexityexplorer website to learn about chaos and nonlinear stuff. BTW, strange atractors are never reached by the results of the system - that's why they are strange - they are not like simple atractors such as gravity.
5. Please consider tools as part of the skin of an agent - this greatly alters one's understanding of AI.
6. Please also recognize that humans are evolved to trust only about 200 others in total - this forms the skin of the agent called "tribe" through the dynamics of Bayesian familiarity. Attempting to comprehend human social dynamics without including tribal limits is an exercise in futility. I find Sapolsky useful to understand that. It also helps to understand DaMasio's observations about the levels of "self" in humans. KNowing that might lead us to understand how to generate self-healing "nurturing community" which will be a great advantage when designing signal noise-reduction in social structures.
Hope this helps?
I was gonna watch a movie. I'm glad I watched this instead.
It's a scam..... he is a fraud.....
@@timeWaster76 your mom!!
@@timeWaster76 from what I heard I dont think he's a fraud. So why dont you tell us in the comments why you believe that. Be detailed and honest with evidence of your claim.
Everyone needs spiritual/mental growth.
underrated comment
Oh! My god, this is so *GOOD!*
This is great. The ability to step away from the urge to be right, and see things from the other perspective, is a spritual practice. It involves a deeper engagement in reality than what the ego game offers. The ego and Its need to be right and excercise power, is the basis of any practice of falsity, and it has darkened the world and our perspeption of Truth throughout the history of mankind. It is easily discerned because it thrives on division and tribal mentality. Wherever there is division, there is untruth and falsity, and power struggle is always at the basis of it. But the untruth isnt really the one or the other side of the division. The darkness or untruth is revealed by the division itself. The power that trives and rules by the means if division, that is the dark powers of the world. But they are in the end conquered, always, because the Light has come into the world. The story of the gospel is how these powers are unmasked and conquered. This truth is not apparent at the first glance at mans history, which for the most part is the history of the ego and Its various forms of rule and conquer. One must look behind the spectacle and the apparances. The ones who carry the flag of truth isnt always the ones who is if the Truth. When it looks like a lamb but speak as a wolf, it is a wolf.
Yes!
Thank you Rebel Wisdom and Daniel Schmachtenberger.
I ama 68 yr.old....I have AWAYS been a critical thinker....So glad this came into my fee.d. Great information.
Damn brilliant. Thank you for this interview!
OK, Stoic.
Very well done. I appreciate the care taken to explain this way of thinking.
I was hesitant to watch at first because of the length, but it’s actually concise for the ground being covered.
Thank you!
This guy needs a bigger following!
Listening in July 2021 - this is the most important talk I have absorbed - maybe it took some other building to get me to where this was the most important - I can’t wait to explore and challenge myself to do this! I feel like a kid thank you !!!!
I'm watching this again and again with my girls (11 and 8). All of us taking notes and discussing it. What a wonderful lesson this is. Thanks.
... and you need to let your daughters play outside, read Calvin&Hobbes, or Im calling child abuse.
He makes the same error I have often committed; he assumes that all others have the same cognitive abilities he possesses; experience has shown me that many people come to the table seriously lacking the abilities he extols here.
ZodyZody not so fast. He said that everyone has the ability to train themselves to possess the same cognitive abilities.
Does he though?
@@sohneinerwaffe I work in Special Ed. classrooms; I know from first hand experience, there are many seriously lacking these abilities. We so take for granted our mental abilities.
I would love to experience a reality where Daniel is a guest for a 3 hour podcast with Joe Rogan.
It will happen, 100% sure
Rogan. Couldn’t Handle it
Reality has granted your wish, only it is a three hour podcast with Bret Weinstein. Even better than Rogan.
It happened
@@NJRFIlms Except Rogan has a much wider reach. The Weinstein podcast was good, though.
Gawwwd. I love this. Alas, I can breathe after listening to this type of thought.
It's a breath of fresh air! 😊
Same :)
Please share this on all your social media pages...the world needs it and the shills don't take a day off. 💚💚💚
A genuine thinker who gives positive advice. Remarkable podcast thank you