The thing is that the plot was actually good, but the show itself is so uncomfortable I basically had to force myself to watch 8 episodes and then I was like "okay fuck this weird shit I can't keep watching it"
I can’t believe he left out the pig the only sensible character in the show and constantly told her “have some self respect and punch him lady!” To Meleodas. And would be punished for it….
Okay hearing that, I’m actually angry. Not angry to rant or have this take over me for a while with how frustrating that is, but angry as I just want to say a lot of bad things to the characters that told this pig “No, you’re wrong and being annoying.”
@@Rosa-he6xb the sad part is Elizabeth is into it. The only sensible Liz who dealt who punched Meliodas was the redhead. Tho she was into it in private so I guess that’s fine
The author of this garbage manga must have never meet women in his life as he is only portraying them as always being in the debt of the male characters actions. Also the worst trope "woman secretly loves being sexually abused by man bc this is true love" 🤡🤡
I love how there was one ship between two people that both looked like adults and met a adults but Nakaba couldn't help himself and said, actually Merlin's true form is that of an 8 year old and has been the whole time.
@@Jauhoaddictineither, she's mentally an adult, and physically one while the magic holds, still the reveal was trash and ofc the reasoning given was tied to meliodas445
child romances? none of these characters are children. merlin, gowther, meliodas, elizabeth (with all her memories) are all over 3k years old, ban is 43, escanor is 40, diane is 750, king is 1300, and elaine is 1000. none of them are even close to children. you can talk about how elaine looks, it is what it is, most fairies look childish for some reason. even king looks like a little boy. the only one i can agree with is elizabeth until she gets her memories back because until then she is legit only 16 and that is f****d but besides that, these are grown adults.
@@justarandompepe8961 well I don't know how you perceive this, however it seems to me that the classical "actually they are 3k years old" is just an excuse to hide pedo. If they have a body of a child and characters are romantically interested in them, then it really looks like romancing children to me
"look shonen anime sucks at romance" as a frequent viewer of shonen anime, you expressed one of my biggest frustrations with that demographic in an excellent way. Either or there is no romance or there are just awful hints of attraction (sometimes even onesided af) just to then make a pair endgame at the end of the show (i'm looking at you naruto)
I used to be in the MHA fandom so I know my fair share of the hellfire that place is (twitter specially). Used to ship shit (I still kinda do) but I realized Horikoshi is a very mediocre writer so I don't really have any hopes in regards to the manga, now I know that good romances in anime tend to be pretty far away from shonen
Wait till you see the new show, the give the new gen the same exact stupid auto kinks as the last Bans son just automatically is in a relationship with a child
elaine and ban's relationship would be fine if it wasnt for the series fixation on children. Elaine is a fairy, i understand her being petite considering the rest of the female fairies are also petite. but one of the side character fairies are petite but still look like they are physically in their 20's and it could've easily been done for elaine.
@@LS-rp6yq It's more about the faces that makes her and the other girls look like toddlers. Seriously, the faces in the show make me uncomfortable because of how child-like they are.
Yeah. Literally, they didn't even need to change her design all that much, ALL they had to do was make her TALLER and cut out any mentions of her body's physical age. Let the audience make the connection that she was supposed to be a youthful-looking adult. That is all Elaine needed to make it work.
And then people say, like so many harem MCs do, "it's not what it looks like!" Yeah, like a jealous girl would believe that it isn't what it looks like.
If Melindas didn’t go after Elizabeth before she got her memories back from her angel past, then it could’ve been alright. Or at least if she gets her memory backs earlier, but that would’ve required the author to think about that earlier
@logicallouis543 bro, we don't all touch ourselves to crime, makes some people uncomfortable. Not a snowflake to be uncomfortable watching assault played for laughs.
The thing is they could’ve also have just given Elaine a bit more of a figure and say she’s as short as she is because she’s a fairy and fairies are small, because they are
Exactly!! Or if they want to have a female main with a more petite body, just do that, but don’t go out of their way to make her look and act more childish.
Yeah, see, THAT would’ve been perfectly fine. Petite women exist. And that would’ve made the moment when Ban mistakes her for a little kid a bit more tasteful imo, since she’s actually an adult but is just the height of a kid. But nope! We can never have nice things in this show. Also I dropped off the show before the 12 year old Merlin reveal so when I saw that in this video I felt like I just got punched in the face. The one woman who looked older than 11, and they made her a secret loli. Just- why? Why?
@@chill7056 exactly. She kinda looks like child at first glance but after looking for a little bit she just looks small. Which would work well with her character
It didn't have to be written that way. We didn't need to know Meliodas essentially was "bonding" with the soon to be incarnations of his lovers since they were kids, nor did we need to have him constantly grope or sexually harass said incarnations of his love interest. The author could've taken a few tweaks to not make this ship creepy as shit and choose not to use any of them.
The fact this series went with the "I knew you when you were a small child" (and you forgot about me only to later remember) more than once for a love interest plotline is so gd wack.
And allow to me reiterate: doing it once was weird as hell and completely uncomfortable, doing it twice makes the author seem like an intentional creep, totally ick.
@@aquakit.133 i didn't like it with diane since it basically overwrote her entirely. up until that point she was seemingly in love with meliodas and then just completely switched to king, it was just weird.
@@justarandompepe8961 Funny enough, I liked her interactions with Howzer more because of this. He was respectful and treated her as an equal regardless of size or strength.
This is the whole "Jacob imprints on Bella's daughter" times 7! It was bad enough already when this show is basically what you get if MHA's Mineta was a shounen protagonist instead of a side-character.
To make ban and Elaine worse (as a ban stan), in the gatcha game there's a scene where ban runs into a tiny blonde little girl, like 7, and his heart aches bc he mistakes her for the love of his life. God. Ban is so cool. Why'd they do this to him.
Character assassionation? Oh no. Assassination is *subtle* . This is a straight up execution in front of an angry crowd, throwing tomatoes as the executee
Jericho’s character wasn’t just assassinated. They dragged her character out into a public area, shot it with a Gatling gun, yeeted it into a mud puddle, beat it with a baseball bat and then set up a bonfire and tossed whatever was left of her character at that point into the open flame. This was no assassination. It was a straight up character MASSACRE.
The fact that Zeldris, one of the main villains of this series, is the only one who actually had a romantic relationship that wasn't creepy or full of problematic tropes speaks volumes of how the show set it self up to fail.
I’m so glad I dropped this years ago… The guy who recommended this to me when we were friends also tried to do something to me because he ‘identified so much with Meliodas’. I SMACKED HIM TO NEXT TUESDAY and haven’t seen him or this anime since then.
I think that Gowther’s original backstory was really beautiful, he tore out his own heart to try to save his dead lover, failed, and got caught in a position that looked so much like he raped her that it was pretty much undeniable from an outside perspective, and is punished for a crime he didn’t commit. But they just RUIN it later. Why did they have to make him actually rape someone later on? And worse, why play it off like he did them a god damn favor??? This shit is so bad.
Tbf we see the stuff with Gowther and Guila way before we see Gowther's backstory, also am I the only who was confused how Gowther has a working pp? I guess it's magic
@@DaDualityofMan Rape doesn't necessarily mean penile penetration. Gowther could have used his fingers and inserted them into her. Touched her body in some other fashion. It is really not known what he did and is only inferred. it could have been as innocent as making out with her. But it is still wrong no matter what he did.
I’m calling it, if the mangaka ever gets his house raided by the police, they’re gonna find Terabytes of the most vile shit. And none of us will be surprised.
Imagine if all they found was vile material was drawn in crayon on authentic papyrus because he likes things that are 1000+ years old and belong in a preschool
@@itsgonnabeanaurfromme I think he means that it doesn't matter if the mangaka wrote depraved shit or not, pdfiles exist in many shapes or forms. Either the mangaka of SDS is just as bad, not bad at all, or worse. It can only go one of three ways.
I swear to God, this story is an exercise in the author testing how much not-pedophilia he can put in a story and get away with. Lancelot is a sign he's pushed the envelop enough to involve actual children without it being a flashback.
@@10tailedbijuu Yeah but it's not like the show is trying to be accurate to the laws or culture of medieval time like House of the Dragon or Vinland Saga (might be a different era but you get what I mean), it pretty much just an aesthetic rather than an actual look at that time period but in a fantasy setting.
@@10tailedbijuu lmao, you really brought up “””historical accuracy””” in a show with fairies and demons. Fuck outta here, there was no reason for the author to make that choice.
My hatred for Meliodas was cemented when Elizabeth's sister got killed in front of her, and all the fucker could think in the moment is groping her, like wtf, I stopped watching shortly after.
The idea of two lovers one cursed with eternal life one cursed with eternal death could have been touching but the unfortunately the writer's search history needs checked I think he might like certain illegal things
It's such a bad show. The writing is terrible and never goes beyond a surface level, with shallow attempts to try to make you care for the characters, while resorting to empty spectacle. And thats not even accounting for all the problematic relationships. People say Fairy Tail is bad, but this show is so much worse (Fairy Tail is just a really mid show with lots of obnoxious fanservice. It's a poor man's One Piece, basically).
Mine was never watching it in the first place. I don’t really get into a new anime UNLESS I know if it’s good (story-wise and characters-wise) to prevent “scares” like this if you catch my drift. Though I WAS curious about it, I never watched it and I’m glad I didn’t-
28:02 I absolutely agree with this! It's so unfair and messed up that there's a gender bias against pedophilic behaviour in the media and especially anime
Man, not even Jericho was safe from this. Thought she was safe until the sequel came out. I just didn’t know the exact extend of what they did to her. My girl got ruined and i’m saddened.
As someone who discovered this anime at 14, and watched it with my stepdad of all people, I am so glad someone has actually sat down and pointed out everything wrong and uncomfortable with it EDIT: Just realising I wasn't really clear, I meant that I'm glad Sarcastic Chorus sat down and made the video about everything uncomfortable with it, but my stepdad did stop watching, and stopped me from watching due to everything gross and uncomfortable
This "groomer romance" being a trend in this story reflects poorly on the creator, to put it lightly. Going "Japan is Japan" isn't helping, when this is a widespread problem with horrible effects on real girls and women, extending to the idol industry. Anime like this (aimed at pedophile shut-ins) would be looked down upon by polite society even over there. My own mother would regard material ("BS stories" in her words) like this and its fans (Western or not) with disgust.
Honestly I never really believe that what a writer/creator should be judged based on what they make. Just because they make things That make people uncomfortable or upset doesn't mean they view those things as 'okay' sometimes people just want to tell a story and people take said story way too seriously. Can't say if That is the case with this manga/anime as I don't know the guy obviously. But honesty I personally wouldn't care either way. I only care of I am entertained by media not what their creators may or may not have done/think.
It honestly don't like it when *shonen* anime, which is meant for teenage boys, to just find it *ok* to add dysfunctional relationships and *Peverted* shit in it just because it's for boys, as if guys can't comprehend the concept of being a genuine human being to your lover, like what the *Fuq!*
You say that like it's a problem specific to Shounen Manga/Anime....... that's the case virtually all genre's of Anime/Manga it's just that Shounen as a genre is more mainstream thus it's issues are more well known.
Ive watched the whole show but only for the fighting scenes, I usually skip kisses and stuff bcs it just doesn't look good when 50% of romantic interests are minors or at least look like them.
The could've had Ban see the real form of Elaine who would be an adult woman and have Ban be attracted to that version. Then have her acknowledge the child form by saying that she stays that way sometimes because it consumes less energy or something. Then have her use the child form to mess with him or she uses it in battle so people let their guard down. She could've had 2 forms like King and not have interacted romantically with Ban in her child form.
Why would that be the real form when she’s literally the same as everyone else. King bypassed it all because he was the legendary super saiyan of fairy kings.
My sister tried watching this anime awhile ago but then stopped one day. I asked her why and she said they’re were many aspects of the anime that made her uncomfortable. My sister is a survivor of SA too by the way so keep that in mind. After watching this video, this anime truly disgusts me and I can’t imagine the amount of triggers it probably gave to my poor sister Edit: Also, you’re right about the height of these characters being bullshit. My sister is 4’11 and she has several guy friends who are all over 6 ft. And although they may look like giants compared to her, she at least matches up to their stomaches or the very bottom of their chests. Here, Elaine looks like she just barely goes above Ban’s hips, which gives more creepy vibes to me
@starstorm1267 first of all , so sorry for you sister and second, yay I can see how some of this is cringe so see. Like the victim for giving her Grapes and thanking him even though he literally erase her memories. Including her little brother making him homeless in apparently something novel. I was sitting there in shock that is anime that they redeem a grapes. Also finally how Sexist this show is. Like so if a 16 year find is future wife at age 2 groom her then married her when she the right age it’s theme to be romantic. But heaven forbid a woman doing this it’s worse then killing. It doesn’t matter what gender you are or your age Grape is Grape, grooming is grooming their is now why in hell to redeem These things.
I got uncomfortable too when every time he touch her. The fans were making it seem like it’s normal cause it happens a lot in anime and I tried to go along with that but I couldn’t bring myself to finish the anime and other reasons.
@@evilmar2363 She literally almost reaches up to his knees and has the body of a little girl, At least they made the other fairies look more adult and when she gained her wings she was supposed to look more "adult" but she still looked like a child.
There is such thing as major height difference relationships, but the way Elaine looks, she still looks too young to the point where she looks like a child still
@@evilmar2363yeah, and lots of anime have that problem. Maybe, instead of accepting children (or adults wearing the appearance of a child) being in relationships with adults as “that’s just how it is,” you should think about what makes it so messed up
@@PP-ok2xt You can write bad romances without it being pedophilic. He also likes drawing these little girls naked in provocative poses. He is 100% a pedo, but sexualized fictional children is legal in Japan, they sell those mags in shops and no one bats an eyelash at it. The author probably has real cp too.
@@tlkfanrwbyfan8716 Nope in their backstory, diane is a child (in giant standards) while king is in his late teens/early adulthood (in fairy standards, cuz why would they let their ruler be a child?).
@@SHEESHAW100 cause they are fairies and have no concept children given they are "born" from their home the big freaking forest. also they are very lazy beings.
Not the author tho (very rare), usually the editor pushed for it and a bunch of people in committee decided it. Most of the time anime adaptation is not like an "business opportunity" but actually just as a way to advertise the original source material. As why did no one opposed to it. Well someone might, but it's Japan. They have weird old standards that they keep convince themselves is okay because "privacy" and "sex sells". And if you're going against the "norm", you're very much risking your career. But not all anime studio is just gonna take any job like that tho, some is independent enough to choose which adaptation they want to do like Kyoto Animation (though they also excuses weird stuff like Maid Dragon's sexualization).
I live in Japan and there’s a reason anime fans are kind of outcasts. I went to a doujinshi fair in Tokyo Big Sight - which is National level - and there was, no exaggeration, a whole section dedicated to pedophilic smut manga. Truthfully, Japanese women DONT like it but the men don’t really care - either they say “whatever” and don’t partake or are rabidly in favor.
@@BloodWired Do you think this has always been the case or just recently becoming more prevalent? Do you think this kind of media preference is protected by any law or safe because there is no law against it?
@@faradise3819 I am by no means an expert, or even a decent amateur, of Japanese law or culture but it might be. If I remember correctly, Japan only made all child p#%*^ illegal in the early 2000s. The author of Rurono Kenshin has openly admitted to having a preference for 14 year old girls and was caught w/some child p#%*^; I believe he only got a fine for it. Again, this is info I only heard about in a video a few years ago, so take it w/a few grains of salt.
@@joshuaharris3039 That one left me so crestfallen because Rurouni Kenshin is one of my all time favorites... it sucks so much that he turned out to be such a creepy asshole...
Find crazy how "immortal children" in this show has the power to grow adult, and the author said he had the idea to make Ban's girl do that, and she actually CAN do that spell, but he said he "ultimately" decided to not. Why? Why do you think? But the fact that it did went over his head and bro just said "nah"...
What makes this worse is kings "Awakened" form makes him an adult permanently. Like that becomes his new default. And there's no reason to not give it to Elaine.
There is a reason, @@tanandalynch9441. Because the creator is not so secretly a p3do and if the child-looking character also got a permanent adult form, it would mean she would stop looking like a little girl.
With so many questionable things in the series I personally would start wondering about how the author actually feels about this stuff. Like people probably shouldn't leave female family and friends alone around him just to be safe.
People say stories won't reflect author in real life. But intention is what set the difference. We control how stories go, how characters are. The author is an adult, he could've made Elaine just the same look like Ban or not looking like 8 year old. I get it, asians looks young despite their age are real (I'm a prominent example of that) but it's not an excuse to exploit child-like appearance. I've seen this so many times, especially on animes catering to male audience. Just so predatory. Basically summarized most (almost all) manga male authors.
"they banged. She died in her sleep" No no no... She died during climax.... I won't even begin to argue wether that's better or worse, I don't even know.
I'd say that's worse because that means he actually *did* kill her. Like, her heart rate increased during the act, and either her heart, blood vessels or both couldn't handle the increased stress, gave out and popped. Given the content, it's safe to say it was the heart that gave out and she had a heart attack. Regardless, she died as a direct result of the intercourse, if she really did die during climax. And knowing the love of your life died because you couldn't keep it in your pants and you're at least 50% responsible and the cause of her death has *got* to hurt In her case, "la petite la morte" was just "la morte"
@@floricel_112 She knew she would die, they both did. Gowther was hesitant but went along with it as her final wish. It was not an unexpected event. Sucks to be a doll who gets to experience emotion for one of the first times since your creation and this is the experience you live through. Ouch.
I wondered why I got so tired of Seven Deadly Sins, but then this video gave me the reminder that it was because every Sin shared the one sin that the Catholic priests don't talk about
**OMFG** I'm so glad I'm not the *ONLY* person who thought this show was f*cking weird. All my friends who were extreme weebs (they watched a lot of harem anime) just thought it was fine, like wtf, this was weird as hell!!!
Sadly, I was convinced it was normal by my friends too. But after a while, I felt too weird and dropped it (specifically with the Merlin reveal). I’m glad I did. Now that I’m older, I hate all of this. None of this should have made it past an editor. Wtf Japan?
Petition to remake Seven Deadly Sins but Mediodus isn't an assaulter, Diane and King have a childhood romance, Elaine looks like an adult, remove Gowther's implied acts, remove Merlin's child self, and just ditch the sequel!
When you said he replaced her memories about him being her fiancé I was like damn that’s messed up BUT THEN ALSO GETTING RID OF THE MEMORIES SHE HAS OF HER BROTHER HELLL NO.
I got into 7ds when I was 11. This is the show that got me into anime. I really liked the character design, it was my first shonen so I made it my whole personality. All my friends and I were children so we didn’t know what was going on. We all knew the Meliodas thing was gross but we didn’t didn’t know it went deeper than that. As a stupid preteen I just thought that I hated ban x elaine bc I liked ban but it was way more than that, I just didn’t realize
Omg same! Except as a kid, I was literally only there for the fight scenes. People who say only young boys appreciate fight scenes have never talked to any child before--I was in love with both shounen and shoujo animes. When I first watched 7ds, I was extremely sheltered and had never, ever been taught what types of relationships were acceptable or not. However, this anime still managed to set off so many red flags in my young mind that even I noticed them. I was disgusted when Ban got with Elain despite knowing her age. When Elain was reading that "adult" book I felt so panicked and thought "nononono she's too young" (keep in mind I was like a tween 💀 💀) before desperately reminding myself that she was an "adult in a child's body". I ended up skipping those Ban and Elain episodes because I couldn't convince myself she was an adult.
Same here! Except my preteen self was rooting for Jericho to get with Ban instead Elaine. I Just couldn’t help but think Jericho would be a better match for Ban than Elaine, I was also disappointed that Ban picked Elaine over Jericho. I remember myself feeling so bad thinking this because honestly Ban and Elaine did have one of the best love story and I wanted good things for Ban and if Elaine makes him happy what’s the problem. For the longest time I thought I shipped Ban and Jericho together because they were both my favorite characters and thought they would work good together. But now watching this and looking back on things I probably subconsciously detected the creepy factor of the relationship and Jericho was the closest legal option for Ban.
@@werewolfstudio7962 dude, I would say same, but I liked Jericho so much I wanted her to stay away from Ban lmao. I remember I saw the younger version of myself in Elain--and that kind of scares me. I was only barely a preteen myself, so I still felt connected to my child self. It really, really disgusts me how the mangaka treats children. That was my childlike innocence on the screen, that was my child's body that I used to have, undeveloped and small, and that was my favorite character, Ban, making advances towards her. I already knew about "bedroom stuff" at that age, but I was begging Ban to stop making those types of jokes with her because to me, she was too young to know. I saw a lot of myself in Elain so I still have strong feelings about how the story treated her. The mangaka should be investigated at the very least.
@@werewolfstudio7962 this is all so crazy bc I remember relating to Jericho. Her whole arc, her color palette, her determination, and then I lwk shipped her with Ban bc I related to her so much. I just thought Elaine was annoying but now I realize this is so wack 😭
7ds was literally my first anime ever and it'll definitely forever hold a special place in my heart but i am not sure i could ever rewatch it because what was even going on LMAO
This show was the most disappointing thing I’ve ever experienced. Never have I ever seen so much potential being wasted. My man Escanor deserved better 😭😭
@@whateverwhatever4476 WDYM??? I DID!!!!! I NEVER WATCHED S3 OR BEYOND!!! THE LONGER I READ THE MORE DISAPPOINTED I BECAME. EVERY PAGE I TURNED I WAS GETTING MORE AND MORE DISILLUSIONED.
@@vergilthewolf3619 bro should have just been part of re:zero or something. That series got a seven deadly sins motif. Call him “the Archbishop of pride” or something idk. I heard full metal alchemist also got that motif. So many options, why did it have to be this show that just hates him :(
In defense of Escanor - he fell in love with adult Merlin, not in love with the body of a child Merlin, so Escanor is still a Gigachad. But with every other point I definitely agree, it’s just stupid.
Nah can’t really give Escanor a pass considering he did say Merlin as a child was very cute and did ask Elizabeth to tell him stories about Merlin when she was a kid….which would be innocent if it wasn’t for the fact that we already know by this point he’s romantically interested in her
@@nataliawashington872 cute dosnt mean romantically intrested its the same kinda thing as your significant other looking at your baby pictures or asking about anything weird you did as a kid just because they love you now doesn't mean they cant still find you cute as a kid with no romance intended
@@nataliawashington872cute in a actually cute way, not in a weird way and he probably wants to know about her because he knows nothing about her that's it, this is the one thing that isn't really creepy but the others can't really defend
When the author is found with cp I don't think anyone will be surprised at this point. Unlike when the author of Rurouni Kenshin was and freaked out the entire fanbase.
Even if he did, many weebs wouldn’t care and will piss themselves blue that his “interests” didn’t at ALL affect the way he wrote characters in the story/why certain things were present in the story… just like many did with Ruroni author.
@@thebeastfromwithin3024 not only did he got caught with cp but it was like a tetrabyte, he had so much of it the police thought he was a distributor (but from what's known he wasn't) 💀 However there actually is a pedo relationship in the series so it's not that surprising (but since the story happens in old japan and it wasn't as bad as there since she was a late teen who looks like an adult (which is also why it flew over people's heads) everyone who noticed was deranged but thought that for the time it wasn't that weird and the author didn't draw explicit stuff of her, you can just age her up a little in your head and stop thinking about, it is manga after all it's sad but it's almost rarer to find a shounen/seine w/out a problematic relationship.
Dude, my sister was a fan of this anime, and recommended it to me, she was very happy to show it to me, just with the first episode i felt just SOOO fucking UNCOMFORTABLE with that "300 year old demon"
@@dsali7725just because you like something in fiction doesn't mean you want it in real life which is what the person you're responding to is trying to say
@@michaeltaylor788 It often does, though. Most people can enjoy fantasy without acting on it, but those who _do_ act on it are usually influenced by said fantasies.
@@kirikakirikakirika Well if they are willing to act on it they were lost from the start. You can’t blame GTA if someone goes and shoots up a bunch of cops. It’s the person who is not in the right mind, not GTA.
Title alone, yes, yes and just yes. Meliodas is probably the most unlikable protagonist I have come across so far watching anime and I am genuinely confused as to whether the author actually wants me to root for him.
Meliodas isn't excusable, Diane and king are okay because they're literally childhood sweethearts that had a crush on eachother till king had to leave for them to get back together when they're in the same age range which as a highball would be 15-16 is considered an act of pedophila. Secondly he tries to make a comparison between Gowther and naja from show to manga when damn well in the show she just passed out and that was it, skipping the sex scene. Finally.. Merlin isn't a child if the only thing she change was her physical appearance and had 3,000 years to develop mentally to a full grown adult and chooses to appear as an adult cause if she wanted to she would of chosen to be a kid. I'm not advocating but he literally makes his points sound dumb the more he adds on than just leaving it be and moving on. Literally could of cut this video down from 30-10 minutes.
@@10tailedbijuu I did but I dropped it. I think I finished season two before I gave up on it. What I meant though is his backstory and motivation would work great for a villain. Not specifically for this show but in general.
anime's biggest problem is glorifying goonery and sus shit. sexualizing teenagers and kids, incest, harem's, the first episode always havinga rape scene in for shock value, relationships with creepy power dynamics, slavery, perverts and the slap of the wrist pnishments etc.... the whole point of having stuff like this in creative media is to show how bad they are, and to explore the negatives that come with it.
What wrong with harems. It kind of impossible for the average person to say all those things are bad when you realize rights don’t exist. I know how? But most people don’t.😂😂
Many of those themes and tropes have been in Japanese media, art, and theatre for centuries. A famous example would be the Bunraku play The Love Suicide of Ohan and Choemon. It’s a popular Bunraku play about a 40 year old man who has an affair with his 14 year old sister, gets her pregnant, then at the end of the play they drown themselves in a river. Or an even older example would be the Genji Monogatari(The Tale of Genji) which has a chapter about Prince Genji falling in love with a 14 year old girl who he then later kidnaps, takes her back to the palace and starts to train her to emulate and become like his stepmother who he is also in love with and having an affair.
This reminds me of how creepy Zenitsu is. He is absolutely obsessed with Nezuko in the creepiest and most extreme way possible, and to make it even worse, Nezuko is infantalized throughout most of the story.
It sucks that he’s like since he’s my fav. I kinda wish they gave him an arc where he realizes “Hey the girl I’ve been obsessed over can’t even talk at the moment. Maybe I should reevaluate my situation.” And have him meet someone later down the line and fall in love.
Ban and Elaine especially irritate me because their relationship is actually quite cute and as someone with a similar body type to Elaine, it was nice seeing that on screen. But of course she’s infantilised and child like making it really gross
God the fact the fact they made one of the best female charaters in the show a villain and a yandere in the sequel sounds like a fanfication a 12 year old wrote
What drives me up a wall is that most of these relationships sound really good on paper, but because of all the problematic stuff, it just makes it so much more worse than it would be without it.
@@2crisp63 anime fans when boa crushes on a 17 year old, jiraiya ask a 12 year old to display himself i a sexual manner,hisoka creeping around gon (brush it off) Anime fans When ban dates a 3000 year old woman with a small body (SEVEN DEADLY PEDOSSSS)
@efri kamaya you're out of your mind or willfully ignorant if you think people don't have issues with literally all of those things. Especially hisoka and gon 😂
@@efrikamaya There's many people that had problems with Jiraya doing that shit, all the fandom acknowledges that Hisoka is a predo, I don't watch one piece. So idk where you get the idea they're brushed off, especially the hisoka thing
Another not so fun fact about seven deadly pedos: is that the hawk’s (the cute pig.) rear mark slowly changes throughout the series representing one of the many pedo signs that gangs of pesos for some reason have a abundance of.
I was in middle school when I saw the show so I can kinda forgive myself for not being as creeped out by everything back then as I am now. Honestly I was mostly there for the fights and Ban’s design
Same here. I was only 13/14, still green to anime, when I watched this series. So the creepy stuff flew over my head. I was just there to watch demons get their faces punched in.
I was eleven and felt uncomfortable but ignored it and man did I love Bon and I’m so sad I can’t rewatch the show for him because all the other stuff stops me from getting near anything ever again
I still can't believe they managed to destroy jericho like that. I understand she was in love with ban even tho ban doesn't see her that way & was already in love with someone else unfortunatly. But now she's going after his son? Seriously? Are those writers really that desperate to make jericho collect some of ban's dna that badly, even when his son is not even legal?!
Then again Ban is a pedophile for falling in love with a fairy with the body of a child. Just like everyone else in the anime. Vivian is also guilty of being a pedophile as she lusted over Gilthunder due to the 8 year age difference and she only knew him when he was a kid.
Bro was faster than me. Jokes aside, if Jericho's "love" for Lancelot wasn't pedophile enough, Lancelot HIMSELF follows on his dad's footsteps and has a girlfriend, who looks lkke atoddler and is around 8 years old, while he was 16. And even worst, King Arthur - a 32 year old, GROWN A$$ MAN(!!!), chose to take that little girl as his BRIDE! (WTAF) 🤦♂️
I remember watching this series when I was like- 13, and thought this show was good. And yes. I did shipping. Namely Diane and King. But now that I’m older, I looked back and went: what the actual fuck is wrong with these characters? Edit; ok, I should clarify. I liked the fights, and the actual storyline. But MAN the shipping stuff hits me like a vat of acid to the face now that I’m looking back on it. Haven’t touched the show for 4 years. Now I see why. Maybe my brain subconsciously caught onto the creepiness of the romances before I did.
@@10tailedbijuu But why tho. Why always children. Even a furry game I played months ago made the youngest character 24, while the oldest 35. Is Weebs standards that low Jesus xD
Oh gad same. I was obsessed with the manga when I was 13/14. The author needs someone to help him write relationships cause this man cannot be trusted. Only relationship I think isn’t so bad was Meliodas little brother who had an obviously of age vampire wife. Unless I’m forgetting something they seems alright
Funny story about this anime actually. Both my sister and I are lore fanatics when it comes to fiction and fantasy, I have been watching this anime ever since I was 13 and my sis has recently caught up with it, so the two of us had non-stop talk about the lore and the writing almost everyday around that time. (We both are very aware of how problematic it is once we grew older, but the writing when it comes to story arcs and non-romance related scenes are still pretty fucking good, doesn't excuse how horrific some scenes are, but still) Eventually, my dad got curious (we got the nerd side from him lmao) and asked if he can watched the first episode. At this point the two of us just looked at each other and winced, but we still sit him down and watch the first episode of Seven Deadly Sins together. He watched, at first he was intrigued... until Meleodas showed up and started to unconsensualy touching Elizabeth. Now, my dad is the type of person that has a lot of respect whamen juice in his system. So you can imagine how much he cringed whenever the touching happened, I had never seen him this uncomfortable in my life, it was both heartwarming and hilarious (heartwarming as glad that our dad is not a duche, hilarious as the face he was making was uh, definitely something special)(just imagine a 6 feet tall 60 year old man whom usually have a natural happy face, visibly shrinking and wincing because of how much he was cringing) He still managed to watch half of the episode, then he paused it, and goes "... uh, this is a bit too sexist for me, can we watch Arcane instead?" And so we did :D Moral of the day, Arcane is a pretty good bonding series to watch with your parents, Seven Deadly Sins is not, unless you like to bond with your parents by cringing at uncomfortable imagery (Why do they have to do Ban like that, the man's a legend)(and Merline as well)(I had a huge crush on both of them)(what the fuck man)
This is obvious since Sds is never meant to be watched by everyone, you don't watch fan service and expect to not see any fan service. I also don't and never would recommend it to fucking adults, as well as little kids... how is the show's fault, christ
The way my ex called this his "favorite romance anime" should've been a much bigger red flag to me 4 years ago Now I lowkey want to make sure he doesn't live near any schools (for context, we dated during my final year of uni, after he had served 4 years in the military. we were both full adults)
Bruh, my ex who dated me when I was still in school and him going to uni (who i met on the internet), loved the ban x Elaine ship... that should have been a sign...
I feel like that's only semi-acceptable if you're an oblivious child. When I was ten I loved this show. However, even me as a ten year old was kind of confused and weirded out by Meliodas trying to get with a baby, by Ban getting with a girl that looked my age, by Diane and King and by Gowther's horribleness. I was there literally only for the action and for the fight scenes, but romance was scoring negative points to me even as an oblivious ten year old. I can't believe grown adult people think this show's romance is good. Then again, weebs watched Assassin's Pride and Mushoko Tensei and raved over them.
"But wait-! There's more!" ahh anime. cant believe this was my first anime EVER because my brother told me to watch it with him and i was like 9 when i watched it so i didnt know what was going on
@@CollinMcLean I loved it when the first season dropped on Netflix, but I always had issues with the couples, most of all ban and Elaine. Idk why, but I shipped Diane and King. I think my brain chose not to absorb the info that King and Diane weren't both children.
Speaking as another Stan for the Franchise, I still enjoy it. I won't hold it against anyone who disagrees and say they don't like it, though. That wouldn't be cool.
“I’m a 179,000 Graham’s Number year-old Godlike Lovecraftian entity who has the power to create and destroy millions of realities in a single thought but yet I choose to have my physical form be that of a prepubescent Japanese schoolgirl”
I feel like it could be really funny if it was a decision for comedic purposes but it's always clearly a sexual thing. Like a thousand year old immortal trapped in the body of an elementary schooler sounds like it could be hilarious but they're always half naked for some reason and it seems like the inherent comedy of that kind of situation is never addressed.
I had a weird feeling while watching the anime but I couldn't put it into words and this video explained EVERYTHING, my friends like this show and I can't help but ask why.
My friends like this show and I can't help but ask why.? Because many people can distinguish between fiction and reality, everyone should do this, nothing in this anime is real, 🙃this is fiction, in this case, I recommend reading any mythology, even Arabic mythology, or irish folklore it will be even rougher than this anime seven deadly sins is like a twisted mythology, after all, it was made from them,🤔 because there is another world, reincarnation, demons, fairies and angels just like in other mythologies
@@knuckles9195even if you wanted to use the argument that other works of fiction did the same if not worse, it’s still not a good argument. No matter the work if it portrays minors in a sexual manner, we as an audience can go “hey that’s incredibly strange and just wrong”. Especially for a series that portrays relationships with people that look like minors as normal, it’s just bizarre. The only reason why people can kind of brush it under the rug is because it’s an anime/manga and we’re so desensitized to these types of tropes that we often don’t see how incredibly problematic they are.
It pisses me off SO much that Ban could have had a perfectly respectable and enjoyable romance with Jericho… but no, he had to hook up with the “legal” elementary schooler
This is such an idiotic take. Nothing else about her is elementary besides her appearance. There are tons of adults with baby faces or that are small and look like children.
@@bizaster Because she’s a fucking fairy. Look at King who looks like a little boy. Their both siblings. Just because she looks like a little girl does not mean she is one. So for the last time stop with bs. Jericho having a way more attractive body is not good reasoning for why she should be with Ban instead. Elaine connects with him on an actual romantic emotional level.
It's nothing compared to how they buther Jericho's character in the sequel 4 Knights of apocalypse. Whete Jerico who had a crush on Ban, also had a crush with his son Lancelot. And to make matter worst, she was motivated to support Arthur because she wanted a fake reality where Lancelot is her husband.
When I found out about merlin it didn't even occur to me it was another relationship dynamic that they are so fond of. I'm glad that escanor didn't fall in love with her in her child form but rather in her grown up form, that's what makes it better for me at least. Even after I realized all the problematic things with itI continued to watch SDS because I enjoyed the story. I wanted to see how everything was resolved, I don't endorse the pedo bait. this shows relationship dynamics were gross, but the story was interesting I can give it that. I did not know that the manga had those scenes and I'm absolutely horrified they drew that and thought it was okay.
Merlin even has a successor in the sequel in Arthur’s niece Gawain. A little girl who turns herself into a seven foot Amazon woman but is…..still a little girl and acts like it the moment she doesn’t get her way.
What makes Meliodas and Elizabeth's relationship worse in the grooming aspect is that Meliodas pretty much stopped groping her the second she regained her memories and it just shows that he had no problem taking advantage of her when she didn't have the power to put a stop to it. He also made a joke in one of the earlier seasons - I think in regards to Diane - that it "just wasn't the same" when women initiated sexual activities with him, insinuating that consent takes the fun out of it. And I think the whole arc with Gauthier and Gila went over my head, because I didn't even realize the implications of that situation until you explained it, but it's so fucked up for no reason! I think I just wrote so much of this shit off as "shock value" to make the content digestible because unfortunately I'm used to anime playing the "shock value" card way too much.
7:02 At this point you remember that Elizabeth's sisters were the best case scenario. One got married to her childhood crush and the other to the beefiest Holy knight who was raised by a demon who possessed his father, and yes the demon was one of the best fathers in anime as not only was he there for the kid, he encouraged his growth and raised him to be a good and strong man. The only issue is that in the sequel Gilthunder's son became an elitist prick, which baffles me considering that his parents are some of the nicest characters in the series.
Even then Griamore got turned into a kid briefly too, and you got Veronica cuddling and kissing him in bed although that scene seemed more like a mother taking care of a child
@@DaDualityofMan Yeah, it wasn’t long after Griamore got turned into a kid thhat I got sick of the show. I was so annoyed with multiple narrative problems, including not one but two characters (Diane and Griamore) having their character arcs put on hold or reset by something so apparently unnecessary.
@@DaDualityofMan The power creep was out of control after season one. Meli went from someone nearly dying from using revenge counter to one shotting the demon who killed an entire nation easily.
i unfortunately watched the whole show, and didn’t catch onto these things until watching this. i am now utterly disgusted with the show and writers, never going to acknowledge this anime ever again
Quite literally all of this could of been avoided with one or two changes per character If Gowther instead used mind control powers to mind control a town into thinking he alone saved them, that would get the "yeah he's a bit unstable" well If Elaine wasn't looking like she was 12 it would be fine if Meliodus didn't find her until she was an adult each time it would of been, fine, weird but fine, whatever If Merlin's true form wasn't a toddler would of been fine, maybe make the true form closer to the thing because spooky immortality deals I dunno If Diane wasn't a kid but a tiny giant who just so happens to go through a growth spurt it would of been fine
Ironically, the artstyle is one of the main reasons I even put up with this show. Its stylistic and the artstyle doesnt even look gross. If there's one manga that I will not ever touch because of artstyle, its demon slayer
I stopped watching this show a long time ago but damn I didn’t know about meliodas history with Elizabeth.that love story could have been so beautiful If they didn’t make it so creep.
I agree. Meliodas was so loyal, but goddammit, at least make his short stature a little more adult-looking like Levi Ackerman and have him meet each Elizabeth as an adult 🤦♀️.
They took the part of "sins" too literally.
EVERYONE NEEDS TO READ THIS
Exactly what I was thinking lol
Literally. Maybe too literally
You right about that!
Fr.
This show couldn't decide which problematic anime pet peeve to have so they went for all of them
"So what kind if audience do you..."
"Y E S."
It went with the pedo pet peeve.
I started this videos in defense of the show having never watched it, and left with less than stellar remarks on it. This show is not great.
That's why it's mid
The thing is that the plot was actually good, but the show itself is so uncomfortable I basically had to force myself to watch 8 episodes and then I was like "okay fuck this weird shit I can't keep watching it"
I can’t believe he left out the pig the only sensible character in the show and constantly told her “have some self respect and punch him lady!” To Meleodas. And would be punished for it….
Okay hearing that, I’m actually angry. Not angry to rant or have this take over me for a while with how frustrating that is, but angry as I just want to say a lot of bad things to the characters that told this pig “No, you’re wrong and being annoying.”
@@Rosa-he6xb the sad part is Elizabeth is into it. The only sensible Liz who dealt who punched Meliodas was the redhead. Tho she was into it in private so I guess that’s fine
The author of this garbage manga must have never meet women in his life as he is only portraying them as always being in the debt of the male characters actions. Also the worst trope "woman secretly loves being sexually abused by man bc this is true love" 🤡🤡
@@Avocado_san bro, don't make assumptions off shit when you aren't even that person. The guy is fucking married
@@whateverwhatever4476 probably because she got used to it being groped at 16 when around him
I love how there was one ship between two people that both looked like adults and met a adults but Nakaba couldn't help himself and said, actually Merlin's true form is that of an 8 year old and has been the whole time.
What does IT mean IS she mentally 8 or physically
@@Jauhoaddictineither, she's mentally an adult, and physically one while the magic holds, still the reveal was trash and ofc the reasoning given was tied to meliodas445
The author was so preoccupied with whether or not he could put so many child romances in one manga, that he didn't stop to think if he should
@@10tailedbijuu thanks
child romances? none of these characters are children. merlin, gowther, meliodas, elizabeth (with all her memories) are all over 3k years old, ban is 43, escanor is 40, diane is 750, king is 1300, and elaine is 1000. none of them are even close to children. you can talk about how elaine looks, it is what it is, most fairies look childish for some reason. even king looks like a little boy. the only one i can agree with is elizabeth until she gets her memories back because until then she is legit only 16 and that is f****d but besides that, these are grown adults.
@@justarandompepe8961 well I don't know how you perceive this, however it seems to me that the classical "actually they are 3k years old" is just an excuse to hide pedo. If they have a body of a child and characters are romantically interested in them, then it really looks like romancing children to me
@@justarandompepe8961 They look like kids, and two of them were raised by their lover…
@@10tailedbijuu no both
"look shonen anime sucks at romance"
as a frequent viewer of shonen anime, you expressed one of my biggest frustrations with that demographic in an excellent way. Either or there is no romance or there are just awful hints of attraction (sometimes even onesided af) just to then make a pair endgame at the end of the show (i'm looking at you naruto)
I'm in the My Hero Academia fandom, and the ship wars for it are huge dumpster fires.
If you think naruto's got it bad then just wait until you see MHA
What even county as a shonen?
I used to be in the MHA fandom so I know my fair share of the hellfire that place is (twitter specially). Used to ship shit (I still kinda do) but I realized Horikoshi is a very mediocre writer so I don't really have any hopes in regards to the manga, now I know that good romances in anime tend to be pretty far away from shonen
I think the only good romance in shonen at the top of my head (or at least one that is not horrible) would be FMA.
My old roommate was obsessed with this show. Dude was also a creep, and got fired for BEING a creep to his female coworkers.
Your roommate was *old* , or your *roommate* was old?
@@Cosmik60 As in former roommate.
@@Cosmik60 how do those 2 things correlate
@@murderman8578 a roomamate you had a while ago or an old roommate
No the og comment
I can’t believe this anime pulled the “she looks 11 but is actually over 1000 years old” trope THREE TIMES
One of them is "she is 16 and I'm 3000 but it's fine, she consented in on of her past lives and now we're soulmates!"
Oh, there were a lot more than 3, they're sprinkled all around
@@bruna7534that’s not what happened
@@xshantop1verse407 thats literally whats hapend, the FIRST thing meliodas does is grab Elizabeth boobs
Wait till you see the new show, the give the new gen the same exact stupid auto kinks as the last
Bans son just automatically is in a relationship with a child
elaine and ban's relationship would be fine if it wasnt for the series fixation on children. Elaine is a fairy, i understand her being petite considering the rest of the female fairies are also petite. but one of the side character fairies are petite but still look like they are physically in their 20's and it could've easily been done for elaine.
I wish edgy Eliane was her main design because her face looks more like an adult’s, which is fucking rare for the women in this series.
he's drawn gawain to be small but with adult proportions so I think it would have worked.
Yeah if she basically would look like adult woman that’s a bit small that would be fine
@@LS-rp6yq It's more about the faces that makes her and the other girls look like toddlers. Seriously, the faces in the show make me uncomfortable because of how child-like they are.
Yeah. Literally, they didn't even need to change her design all that much, ALL they had to do was make her TALLER and cut out any mentions of her body's physical age. Let the audience make the connection that she was supposed to be a youthful-looking adult. That is all Elaine needed to make it work.
Sometimes I question what goes on in the mind of these creators that think "Yeah, let's do that"
You KNOW what goes on in their minds.
@@WobblesandBean Still.. you kinda get creeped out thinking about it
Sometimes like sega there's no process, people just throwing stuff at the wall to see what sticks!
@@erikbihari3625 HOW? How did this stick !?
Personally I don't even want to know
The relationships are literally the personification of "WAIT I can explain."
Literally context is needed and even then it's a hard thing to ignore.
I have the fucking context and i still wanna burn it to the ground.
@@KW-de9sc Understandable.
Frfr
And then people say, like so many harem MCs do, "it's not what it looks like!" Yeah, like a jealous girl would believe that it isn't what it looks like.
If Melindas didn’t go after Elizabeth before she got her memories back from her angel past, then it could’ve been alright.
Or at least if she gets her memory backs earlier, but that would’ve required the author to think about that earlier
'Sexual assault = comedy' is one anime trope that's never failed to make me incredibly uncomfortable.
found the snowflake
@@logicallouis543 🤨🫴
@@logicallouis543 chile....you the real snowflake here tf. 🤡
@@logicallouis543or we're just normal and not future offenders
@logicallouis543 bro, we don't all touch ourselves to crime, makes some people uncomfortable. Not a snowflake to be uncomfortable watching assault played for laughs.
The thing is they could’ve also have just given Elaine a bit more of a figure and say she’s as short as she is because she’s a fairy and fairies are small, because they are
Exactly!! Or if they want to have a female main with a more petite body, just do that, but don’t go out of their way to make her look and act more childish.
Yeah, see, THAT would’ve been perfectly fine. Petite women exist. And that would’ve made the moment when Ban mistakes her for a little kid a bit more tasteful imo, since she’s actually an adult but is just the height of a kid. But nope! We can never have nice things in this show.
Also I dropped off the show before the 12 year old Merlin reveal so when I saw that in this video I felt like I just got punched in the face. The one woman who looked older than 11, and they made her a secret loli. Just- why? Why?
Like tatsumaki in opm
@@chill7056 Yeah weirdly enough that’s exactly who I thought of when OP brought this idea up. Just couldn’t remember her name.
@@chill7056 exactly. She kinda looks like child at first glance but after looking for a little bit she just looks small. Which would work well with her character
“His godfather invented the waiting game.” This line is brutally accurate 😂
true, but you would too if you waited some 3k years to get rid of curse of immortality. and to be with the 1 you loved.
It didn't have to be written that way. We didn't need to know Meliodas essentially was "bonding" with the soon to be incarnations of his lovers since they were kids, nor did we need to have him constantly grope or sexually harass said incarnations of his love interest. The author could've taken a few tweaks to not make this ship creepy as shit and choose not to use any of them.
Choked on my coffee then laughed my ass off, writing gold *chef's kiss*
Nah spawn camping is more accurate 😂
The fact this series went with the "I knew you when you were a small child" (and you forgot about me only to later remember) more than once for a love interest plotline is so gd wack.
And allow to me reiterate: doing it once was weird as hell and completely uncomfortable, doing it twice makes the author seem like an intentional creep, totally ick.
@@aquakit.133 i didn't like it with diane since it basically overwrote her entirely. up until that point she was seemingly in love with meliodas and then just completely switched to king, it was just weird.
@@justarandompepe8961 Funny enough, I liked her interactions with Howzer more because of this. He was respectful and treated her as an equal regardless of size or strength.
Hearing a man actually be upset at this is surprisingly healing
Engagement bait
@@Diamondr11Blue how?
@@ratking927 it's what yall want to hear. Wait til u see berserk
@@ratking927 and why are you surprised someone's disagreeing with the series? Do you really expect all guys to like it? You got problems..
@@ratking927 why do you expect all guys to like this one series ?
This is the whole "Jacob imprints on Bella's daughter" times 7! It was bad enough already when this show is basically what you get if MHA's Mineta was a shounen protagonist instead of a side-character.
Nah I'm disagree there I think Mineta fucking wrote it.
My new favorite headcanon
@@Tokomaris_Hex yes
At least Mineta lusted after girls around his age. He doesn’t pick up a newborn baby and yell, “Keep your hands off my woman, do you understand me?”
@@samflood5631 "i wonder how you'd look 10 year from now" - mineta 💀
To make ban and Elaine worse (as a ban stan), in the gatcha game there's a scene where ban runs into a tiny blonde little girl, like 7, and his heart aches bc he mistakes her for the love of his life.
God. Ban is so cool. Why'd they do this to him.
@@10tailedbijuu just makes him seem like more of a creep
@@10tailedbijuu How does a person miss the point this bad?
@@10tailedbijuu I have never seen a small child and mistook them for my lover no
Not just in the gacha game, in the show too. It was in post town tala, the little girl ellie I think her name was
@@10tailedbijuu if you think 'this 7 year old looks like my lover' maybe rethink your life
Character assassionation? Oh no. Assassination is *subtle* . This is a straight up execution in front of an angry crowd, throwing tomatoes as the executee
Jericho’s character wasn’t just assassinated. They dragged her character out into a public area, shot it with a Gatling gun, yeeted it into a mud puddle, beat it with a baseball bat and then set up a bonfire and tossed whatever was left of her character at that point into the open flame.
This was no assassination. It was a straight up character MASSACRE.
@@Cheetahgirl_Studios while there still conscious
"The Seven Deadly Registered Sex Offenders"
Should have been “The Seven Minors Had Been Deadly Fingered”
Ok some of this was actual heresy but the main character grooming is a funny reoccurring joke
The Seven Discord Mods
But your honor she consented in a past life
Edit: most successful comment lets goooo
Oh my god this is literally the main ship in a nutshell
@@atimidbirb I'll admit that I got that line from the Mother's Basement video on this exact show
🤣🤣🤣
Thats enough loll
Still doesn't makes it any BETTER
it just seems like he's molesting and grooming her
The fact that Zeldris, one of the main villains of this series, is the only one who actually had a romantic relationship that wasn't creepy or full of problematic tropes speaks volumes of how the show set it self up to fail.
Eeeeh zeldris looks like a kid
@@SHEESHAW100 Oh, come on😢😖😵
@SHEESHAW Well, at the very least, his relationship didn't involve child grooming or harresment🥲
I think Gilthunder is safe too, right? With Margaret?
@Yohsuke Fuuma Hopefully. Sadly, his character was also done dirty and he was no longer relevant after they decided "he is not that OP after all"
You can really hear the loss in sanity across this entire video as he goes through each couple.
you can tell he is just not used to it at all, probably went with the "worse" example to just get anime over with.
And this is why you don't apply real world logic to anime. You'll go insane.
@@10tailedbijuu Thank God he isn't used to it. I've been an anime fan for years and I'll never be use it.
@@asandax6 I think morality instead of logic would be better, it’s like being ok with redeeming space Hitlers from Steven universe.
him sighing when he got to elaine and ban made me laugh so hard lmfao
I’m so glad I dropped this years ago… The guy who recommended this to me when we were friends also tried to do something to me because he ‘identified so much with Meliodas’. I SMACKED HIM TO NEXT TUESDAY and haven’t seen him or this anime since then.
lol 🤣🤣
“Identified with Meliodas.” - That’s cringe af. I can’t even imagine
jfc
It is really weird 😂
Damn what the fuck? Who does that?
Sometimes I feel a lot of shonen are written by people that have never been kissed.
Speaking from experience then?
@@BeastMaster46 thought you ate there, didn't ya?
@@cycymaca No but you just gave me an idea: ruclips.net/video/YYDzJyqsZ2w/видео.html
It's one shounen calm down
@@BeastMaster46 u just outed urself
the abridged version is legitimately infinitely better than the show, just because they removed all the weird ass sex pest stuff
Wait which one
Like Sonic X?
@@erikbihari3625 Wait, I was going to ask about the abridged but... Wait, Sonic X did what?
Yeah essentially they make the characters more interesting
@@S2MiaS2. There's a Sonic abridged youtube series, but only three episodes so fare. It's not snapcube, but didn't need to be iether.
I think that Gowther’s original backstory was really beautiful, he tore out his own heart to try to save his dead lover, failed, and got caught in a position that looked so much like he raped her that it was pretty much undeniable from an outside perspective, and is punished for a crime he didn’t commit. But they just RUIN it later. Why did they have to make him actually rape someone later on? And worse, why play it off like he did them a god damn favor??? This shit is so bad.
Wait I just re read the chapter 112 and there was nothing about gowther raping her, just messing with her memories
@@kazuyakenzaki1320They might have retconned it because of backlash.
Tbf we see the stuff with Gowther and Guila way before we see Gowther's backstory, also am I the only who was confused how Gowther has a working pp? I guess it's magic
@@DaDualityofMan Rape doesn't necessarily mean penile penetration. Gowther could have used his fingers and inserted them into her. Touched her body in some other fashion. It is really not known what he did and is only inferred. it could have been as innocent as making out with her. But it is still wrong no matter what he did.
@@klutzmtg2310 Yeah it’s kinda unclear in anime, but in the manga it’s pretty clear they banged
I’m calling it, if the mangaka ever gets his house raided by the police, they’re gonna find Terabytes of the most vile shit. And none of us will be surprised.
I mean the author of Rurouni Kenshi was caught in possession of terabytes of CP back in 2017
Imagine if all they found was vile material was drawn in crayon on authentic papyrus because he likes things that are 1000+ years old and belong in a preschool
@@vergilcool oh jfc I didn't hear about that! How depressing..
@@vergilcool what does that have to do with any of this?
@@itsgonnabeanaurfromme I think he means that it doesn't matter if the mangaka wrote depraved shit or not, pdfiles exist in many shapes or forms. Either the mangaka of SDS is just as bad, not bad at all, or worse. It can only go one of three ways.
I swear to God, this story is an exercise in the author testing how much not-pedophilia he can put in a story and get away with. Lancelot is a sign he's pushed the envelop enough to involve actual children without it being a flashback.
Don't see Pedophilia
@@10tailedbijuu Doesn‘t make it better :/
@@10tailedbijuu Yeah but it's not like the show is trying to be accurate to the laws or culture of medieval time like House of the Dragon or Vinland Saga (might be a different era but you get what I mean), it pretty much just an aesthetic rather than an actual look at that time period but in a fantasy setting.
@@10tailedbijuu Pretty sure pedo shit hasn't been common since ancient Greece.
@@10tailedbijuu lmao, you really brought up “””historical accuracy””” in a show with fairies and demons. Fuck outta here, there was no reason for the author to make that choice.
My hatred for Meliodas was cemented when Elizabeth's sister got killed in front of her, and all the fucker could think in the moment is groping her, like wtf, I stopped watching shortly after.
The f#ck!
@@foxpro3002 and this is pretty early on so i didnt knew half of the shit talked about this shit show, I hate this fucking show
Dude he's a Demon, that's the point.
@@artistanthony1007 no
@@T-Jex lol, I'm not watching it again.
The idea of two lovers one cursed with eternal life one cursed with eternal death could have been touching but the unfortunately the writer's search history needs checked I think he might like certain illegal things
Welcome to anime
If they did. Even better! The younger the better
@@Gordonfreeman551Pls shower and touch grass
Oh I know you stank @@Gordonfreeman551
Yeah, if the author didn't include the pervert aspect, this might have been decent premise.
My biggest flex is having dropped the Anime on the literal first episode after Meliodis groped Elizabeth =^]
actually i hate meliodas way before tht because he is traitor lol betray his own family for a chussy
It's such a bad show. The writing is terrible and never goes beyond a surface level, with shallow attempts to try to make you care for the characters, while resorting to empty spectacle. And thats not even accounting for all the problematic relationships.
People say Fairy Tail is bad, but this show is so much worse (Fairy Tail is just a really mid show with lots of obnoxious fanservice. It's a poor man's One Piece, basically).
Mine was never watching it in the first place.
I don’t really get into a new anime UNLESS I know if it’s good (story-wise and characters-wise) to prevent “scares” like this if you catch my drift.
Though I WAS curious about it, I never watched it and I’m glad I didn’t-
Saaaame. It was so gross.
I watched the show when I was younger as the “target audience” and even then I was uncomfortable
28:02 I absolutely agree with this! It's so unfair and messed up that there's a gender bias against pedophilic behaviour in the media and especially anime
In normal media the bias is flipped
@@sleepyninjarin7971 ...... yeah you got a point
@@sleepyninjarin7971 western* media
Have you never heard of shota con? It's literally the same as loli con, but it's young boys and adult women.
@@GeraltofRivia22 honestly I don't understand why its seen as normal in anime 😬
Man, not even Jericho was safe from this. Thought she was safe until the sequel came out. I just didn’t know the exact extend of what they did to her.
My girl got ruined and i’m saddened.
What happened? Sorry I haven’t caught up with the anime and probably don’t plan to lol
@Kuri NOOOOO (also thank you!) wow…this is so bad lmfao
@Kuri what the f@ck
As someone who discovered this anime at 14, and watched it with my stepdad of all people, I am so glad someone has actually sat down and pointed out everything wrong and uncomfortable with it
EDIT: Just realising I wasn't really clear, I meant that I'm glad Sarcastic Chorus sat down and made the video about everything uncomfortable with it, but my stepdad did stop watching, and stopped me from watching due to everything gross and uncomfortable
You have a good step dad
One of the Best Dads out there, I bet!
It's great that he doesn't just brush it off like it's nothing
Same
oh how fortunate for you 😊
i was gettung legitimately happy seeing the last couple just for her to turn into a kid too. JESUS CHRIST
Oh My God, THANK YOU
You're literally the only anime RUclipsr I have seen pointing how disgustingly creepy romances are in this train wreck
the dude is only animated series youtuber, he barely does any anime
wym THANK YOU, this video is awful lol.
a "labor of hate" as described by this RUclipsr.
@@iruxh WWWWW
@TartarosGeer234 it's a w anime what sense does it make
@@iruxh average loli fan take
This "groomer romance" being a trend in this story reflects poorly on the creator, to put it lightly. Going "Japan is Japan" isn't helping, when this is a widespread problem with horrible effects on real girls and women, extending to the idol industry. Anime like this (aimed at pedophile shut-ins) would be looked down upon by polite society even over there. My own mother would regard material ("BS stories" in her words) like this and its fans (Western or not) with disgust.
Honestly I never really believe that what a writer/creator should be judged based on what they make.
Just because they make things That make people uncomfortable or upset doesn't mean they view those things as 'okay' sometimes people just want to tell a story and people take said story way too seriously.
Can't say if That is the case with this manga/anime as I don't know the guy obviously. But honesty I personally wouldn't care either way. I only care of I am entertained by media not what their creators may or may not have done/think.
@@chaossnowkitsune6377 then there is something wrong with you.
@@berilsevvalbekret772 I disagree.
Oh do tell me... what is wrong with me? What did I say that is considered so 'heinous' That I must have something wrong with me?
i hate it when pedophiles use japan as a shield to excuse their behavior but japan itself hates pedophelia
It honestly don't like it when *shonen* anime, which is meant for teenage boys, to just find it *ok* to add dysfunctional relationships and *Peverted* shit in it just because it's for boys, as if guys can't comprehend the concept of being a genuine human being to your lover, like what the *Fuq!*
They're practically raising the next generation of rapists and train molesters, if not Donald Trumps and Epsteins.
You say that like it's a problem specific to Shounen Manga/Anime....... that's the case virtually all genre's of Anime/Manga it's just that Shounen as a genre is more mainstream thus it's issues are more well known.
Genuine?
@@theonewayroad3867 yep
Cry more
You have opened my eyes a lot. I used to love this show when I was a kid and now I don’t think I can ever watch it again.
Same glad i gave up on it like half way through when i was a kid
Ive watched the whole show but only for the fighting scenes, I usually skip kisses and stuff bcs it just doesn't look good when 50% of romantic interests are minors or at least look like them.
Same I definitely didn’t understand a lot of this show back then apparently
The could've had Ban see the real form of Elaine who would be an adult woman and have Ban be attracted to that version. Then have her acknowledge the child form by saying that she stays that way sometimes because it consumes less energy or something. Then have her use the child form to mess with him or she uses it in battle so people let their guard down. She could've had 2 forms like King and not have interacted romantically with Ban in her child form.
Why would that be the real form when she’s literally the same as everyone else. King bypassed it all because he was the legendary super saiyan of fairy kings.
Fairies aren't real.
@@michaelhall736 No one said they're real though. Are you drunk??
@@e-davidi.7354 No, but you all act like they're real.
@@michaelhall736that’s the excuse y’all all use it’s not real so it’s ok if they’re Pedos
Author has 50 terabytes minimum
The author admitted his editor told him to add the weird scenes
@@ZoroTheDemonTTVAssuming that’s true: why the fuck did he listen instead of getting a new editor
@@ZoroTheDemonTTVThat's got to be b******* all of the characters are designed around it.
Softie
@@DoffysRightHandMan45 I'm soft for not being attracted to people that look like minors?
My sister tried watching this anime awhile ago but then stopped one day. I asked her why and she said they’re were many aspects of the anime that made her uncomfortable. My sister is a survivor of SA too by the way so keep that in mind.
After watching this video, this anime truly disgusts me and I can’t imagine the amount of triggers it probably gave to my poor sister
Edit: Also, you’re right about the height of these characters being bullshit. My sister is 4’11 and she has several guy friends who are all over 6 ft. And although they may look like giants compared to her, she at least matches up to their stomaches or the very bottom of their chests. Here, Elaine looks like she just barely goes above Ban’s hips, which gives more creepy vibes to me
L if they wanted it to be like that they don't need a thousand loli
@starstorm1267 first of all , so sorry for you sister and second, yay I can see how some of this is cringe so see.
Like the victim for giving her Grapes and thanking him even though he literally erase her memories. Including her little brother making him homeless in apparently something novel. I was sitting there in shock that is anime that they redeem a grapes.
Also finally how Sexist this show is. Like so if a 16 year find is future wife at age 2 groom her then married her when she the right age it’s theme to be romantic.
But heaven forbid a woman doing this it’s worse then killing.
It doesn’t matter what gender you are or your age Grape is Grape, grooming is grooming their is now why in hell to redeem These things.
@@janelycorral5716 so u didn't watch the anime
I got uncomfortable too when every time he touch her. The fans were making it seem like it’s normal cause it happens a lot in anime and I tried to go along with that but I couldn’t bring myself to finish the anime and other reasons.
@@JaxBox1 l
"Welcome to how fucked up is fucked up."
"That's fucked up."
Ban is legitimately a good character and his romance with Elaine would've been beautiful... and then they made him a lolicon
Body shaming smh
@@evilmar2363 She literally almost reaches up to his knees and has the body of a little girl, At least they made the other fairies look more adult and when she gained her wings she was supposed to look more "adult" but she still looked like a child.
There is such thing as major height difference relationships, but the way Elaine looks, she still looks too young to the point where she looks like a child still
@@lilianaparicio3723 touch grass bro it's an anime
@@evilmar2363yeah, and lots of anime have that problem. Maybe, instead of accepting children (or adults wearing the appearance of a child) being in relationships with adults as “that’s just how it is,” you should think about what makes it so messed up
Maybe we should check the authors search history because he’s definitely got some dark secrets
I doubt it.
Or maybe he just likes writing fucked up romances. Shocking
@@PP-ok2xt You can write bad romances without it being pedophilic. He also likes drawing these little girls naked in provocative poses. He is 100% a pedo, but sexualized fictional children is legal in Japan, they sell those mags in shops and no one bats an eyelash at it. The author probably has real cp too.
@@PP-ok2xtYou wouldn't write such stories without ever feeling fascinated by it. 💀
Frl, like check his home.
King and Meliodas are the opposite of the "She's 1000 years old" excuse but in the worst way possible.
King and Diane are a few months apart at the most. They were both children and are both adults now. Being childhood sweethearts doesn’t mean anything.
@@tlkfanrwbyfan8716 I looked it up and they're not a few months apart. They're centuries apart. So you're wrong.
@@tlkfanrwbyfan8716 Nope in their backstory, diane is a child (in giant standards) while king is in his late teens/early adulthood (in fairy standards, cuz why would they let their ruler be a child?).
@@SHEESHAW100 cause they are fairies and have no concept children given they are "born" from their home the big freaking forest. also they are very lazy beings.
@@SHEESHAW100 Fello is debunking him
As someone who was repeatedly sexually harassed as a kid, this entire video has just been a gigantic therapy session unto itself for me.
Hope everything’s going ok now my dude
I hope you're okay dude, stay strong
Same
Hope you doing well man. Stay safe.
Yo i hope you are doing well
I wonder how did the creator convinced people to make this into anime
Not the author tho (very rare), usually the editor pushed for it and a bunch of people in committee decided it. Most of the time anime adaptation is not like an "business opportunity" but actually just as a way to advertise the original source material.
As why did no one opposed to it. Well someone might, but it's Japan. They have weird old standards that they keep convince themselves is okay because "privacy" and "sex sells". And if you're going against the "norm", you're very much risking your career. But not all anime studio is just gonna take any job like that tho, some is independent enough to choose which adaptation they want to do like Kyoto Animation (though they also excuses weird stuff like Maid Dragon's sexualization).
I live in Japan and there’s a reason anime fans are kind of outcasts. I went to a doujinshi fair in Tokyo Big Sight - which is National level - and there was, no exaggeration, a whole section dedicated to pedophilic smut manga. Truthfully, Japanese women DONT like it but the men don’t really care - either they say “whatever” and don’t partake or are rabidly in favor.
@@BloodWired Do you think this has always been the case or just recently becoming more prevalent? Do you think this kind of media preference is protected by any law or safe because there is no law against it?
@@faradise3819 I am by no means an expert, or even a decent amateur, of Japanese law or culture but it might be. If I remember correctly, Japan only made all child p#%*^ illegal in the early 2000s. The author of Rurono Kenshin has openly admitted to having a preference for 14 year old girls and was caught w/some child p#%*^; I believe he only got a fine for it. Again, this is info I only heard about in a video a few years ago, so take it w/a few grains of salt.
@@joshuaharris3039 That one left me so crestfallen because Rurouni Kenshin is one of my all time favorites... it sucks so much that he turned out to be such a creepy asshole...
Find crazy how "immortal children" in this show has the power to grow adult, and the author said he had the idea to make Ban's girl do that, and she actually CAN do that spell, but he said he "ultimately" decided to not.
Why?
Why do you think?
But the fact that it did went over his head and bro just said "nah"...
What makes this worse is kings "Awakened" form makes him an adult permanently. Like that becomes his new default. And there's no reason to not give it to Elaine.
There is a reason, @@tanandalynch9441. Because the creator is not so secretly a p3do and if the child-looking character also got a permanent adult form, it would mean she would stop looking like a little girl.
With so many questionable things in the series I personally would start wondering about how the author actually feels about this stuff. Like people probably shouldn't leave female family and friends alone around him just to be safe.
People say stories won't reflect author in real life. But intention is what set the difference. We control how stories go, how characters are. The author is an adult, he could've made Elaine just the same look like Ban or not looking like 8 year old. I get it, asians looks young despite their age are real (I'm a prominent example of that) but it's not an excuse to exploit child-like appearance. I've seen this so many times, especially on animes catering to male audience. Just so predatory. Basically summarized most (almost all) manga male authors.
Softie
"they banged. She died in her sleep"
No no no... She died during climax.... I won't even begin to argue wether that's better or worse, I don't even know.
I'd say that's worse because that means he actually *did* kill her. Like, her heart rate increased during the act, and either her heart, blood vessels or both couldn't handle the increased stress, gave out and popped. Given the content, it's safe to say it was the heart that gave out and she had a heart attack. Regardless, she died as a direct result of the intercourse, if she really did die during climax. And knowing the love of your life died because you couldn't keep it in your pants and you're at least 50% responsible and the cause of her death has *got* to hurt
In her case, "la petite la morte" was just "la morte"
@@floricel_112 She knew she would die, they both did. Gowther was hesitant but went along with it as her final wish. It was not an unexpected event. Sucks to be a doll who gets to experience emotion for one of the first times since your creation and this is the experience you live through. Ouch.
Seven deadly charges 😭😭
May Yahweh charged them with bonkers in his bottomless pit and lake of fire from the start and until the judgement day.
😂😂
Seven deadly life sentences
7 deadly sentences.
Seven deadly courts.
Seven Epstein guests.@@thecommenter90
The Seven Deadly Pedos 😭😭😭
💀 💀
oh nah 😂😂
Seven Deadly Predators
LMAO, but also, is Diane a predator? Idk if she is or isn't, I'm too scared to touch the anime
@@daisanity6457 both Diane and King are predators for each other
I wondered why I got so tired of Seven Deadly Sins, but then this video gave me the reminder that it was because every Sin shared the one sin that the Catholic priests don't talk about
😂😂😂
pft-
I choked on my water from this
Brev 😂😂😂
That is like - the best comment 👍
**OMFG**
I'm so glad I'm not the *ONLY* person who thought this show was f*cking weird. All my friends who were extreme weebs (they watched a lot of harem anime) just thought it was fine, like wtf, this was weird as hell!!!
Thank God I never got into the series.
My ex liked it and I'm glad I never watched a full episode but it made alot of sense for her to like it.
Sadly, I was convinced it was normal by my friends too. But after a while, I felt too weird and dropped it (specifically with the Merlin reveal). I’m glad I did. Now that I’m older, I hate all of this. None of this should have made it past an editor. Wtf Japan?
@@Kris-wo4pj Is… she a sub?
@@Kris-wo4pj now i see why theyre your ex
Petition to remake Seven Deadly Sins but Mediodus isn't an assaulter, Diane and King have a childhood romance, Elaine looks like an adult, remove Gowther's implied acts, remove Merlin's child self, and just ditch the sequel!
Better make a new manga
Imagine if Merlin instantly turns to dust after revealing her child form, kinda like what happens with Black Adam
Let's tack on a whole slew of other rewrites on poor writing decisions to top it all off.
Great idea for a fan fic honestly
I would totally be hyped for a less creepy version of this show.
When you said he replaced her memories about him being her fiancé I was like damn that’s messed up BUT THEN ALSO GETTING RID OF THE MEMORIES SHE HAS OF HER BROTHER HELLL NO.
I got into 7ds when I was 11. This is the show that got me into anime. I really liked the character design, it was my first shonen so I made it my whole personality. All my friends and I were children so we didn’t know what was going on. We all knew the Meliodas thing was gross but we didn’t didn’t know it went deeper than that. As a stupid preteen I just thought that I hated ban x elaine bc I liked ban but it was way more than that, I just didn’t realize
Omg same! Except as a kid, I was literally only there for the fight scenes. People who say only young boys appreciate fight scenes have never talked to any child before--I was in love with both shounen and shoujo animes.
When I first watched 7ds, I was extremely sheltered and had never, ever been taught what types of relationships were acceptable or not. However, this anime still managed to set off so many red flags in my young mind that even I noticed them. I was disgusted when Ban got with Elain despite knowing her age. When Elain was reading that "adult" book I felt so panicked and thought "nononono she's too young" (keep in mind I was like a tween 💀 💀) before desperately reminding myself that she was an "adult in a child's body". I ended up skipping those Ban and Elain episodes because I couldn't convince myself she was an adult.
Same here! Except my preteen self was rooting for Jericho to get with Ban instead Elaine. I Just couldn’t help but think Jericho would be a better match for Ban than Elaine, I was also disappointed that Ban picked Elaine over Jericho. I remember myself feeling so bad thinking this because honestly Ban and Elaine did have one of the best love story and I wanted good things for Ban and if Elaine makes him happy what’s the problem. For the longest time I thought I shipped Ban and Jericho together because they were both my favorite characters and thought they would work good together. But now watching this and looking back on things I probably subconsciously detected the creepy factor of the relationship and Jericho was the closest legal option for Ban.
@@werewolfstudio7962 dude, I would say same, but I liked Jericho so much I wanted her to stay away from Ban lmao.
I remember I saw the younger version of myself in Elain--and that kind of scares me. I was only barely a preteen myself, so I still felt connected to my child self. It really, really disgusts me how the mangaka treats children. That was my childlike innocence on the screen, that was my child's body that I used to have, undeveloped and small, and that was my favorite character, Ban, making advances towards her. I already knew about "bedroom stuff" at that age, but I was begging Ban to stop making those types of jokes with her because to me, she was too young to know. I saw a lot of myself in Elain so I still have strong feelings about how the story treated her.
The mangaka should be investigated at the very least.
@@werewolfstudio7962 this is all so crazy bc I remember relating to Jericho. Her whole arc, her color palette, her determination, and then I lwk shipped her with Ban bc I related to her so much. I just thought Elaine was annoying but now I realize this is so wack 😭
7ds was literally my first anime ever and it'll definitely forever hold a special place in my heart but i am not sure i could ever rewatch it because what was even going on LMAO
The amount of creepy "romances" in this one is staggering
chris hansen: have a seat.
creator of this fucking anime: *ohhh no.*
This show was the most disappointing thing I’ve ever experienced. Never have I ever seen so much potential being wasted. My man Escanor deserved better 😭😭
Escanor deserves to be in a better show man. Like for real his backstory is very cool to me and I wish he was just in a different show than SDS.
I swear, escanor should've just been a part of a better show or something. From what I've seen he's the most bearable part of the show.
Shoulda just read the manga
@@whateverwhatever4476 WDYM??? I DID!!!!! I NEVER WATCHED S3 OR BEYOND!!! THE LONGER I READ THE MORE DISAPPOINTED I BECAME. EVERY PAGE I TURNED I WAS GETTING MORE AND MORE DISILLUSIONED.
@@vergilthewolf3619 bro should have just been part of re:zero or something. That series got a seven deadly sins motif. Call him “the Archbishop of pride” or something idk. I heard full metal alchemist also got that motif. So many options, why did it have to be this show that just hates him :(
In defense of Escanor - he fell in love with adult Merlin, not in love with the body of a child Merlin, so Escanor is still a Gigachad.
But with every other point I definitely agree, it’s just stupid.
Escanor: “I fell in love with a child…? WHO DECIDED THAT?
Nah can’t really give Escanor a pass considering he did say Merlin as a child was very cute and did ask Elizabeth to tell him stories about Merlin when she was a kid….which would be innocent if it wasn’t for the fact that we already know by this point he’s romantically interested in her
@@nataliawashington872 cute dosnt mean romantically intrested its the same kinda thing as your significant other looking at your baby pictures or asking about anything weird you did as a kid just because they love you now doesn't mean they cant still find you cute as a kid with no romance intended
@@nataliawashington872
I agree with Asura. Him wanting to hear those things is… odd, perhaps, but doesn’t necessarily veer into creepy territory.
@@nataliawashington872cute in a actually cute way, not in a weird way and he probably wants to know about her because he
knows nothing about her that's it, this is the one thing that isn't really creepy but the others can't really defend
When the author is found with cp I don't think anyone will be surprised at this point. Unlike when the author of Rurouni Kenshin was and freaked out the entire fanbase.
Even if he did, many weebs wouldn’t care and will piss themselves blue that his “interests” didn’t at ALL affect the way he wrote characters in the story/why certain things were present in the story… just like many did with Ruroni author.
What happened in Kenshin?
@@thebeastfromwithin3024 be got caught with cp
@@KvngLeroy1 oh damn
@@thebeastfromwithin3024 not only did he got caught with cp but it was like a tetrabyte, he had so much of it the police thought he was a distributor (but from what's known he wasn't) 💀
However there actually is a pedo relationship in the series so it's not that surprising (but since the story happens in old japan and it wasn't as bad as there since she was a late teen who looks like an adult (which is also why it flew over people's heads) everyone who noticed was deranged but thought that for the time it wasn't that weird and the author didn't draw explicit stuff of her, you can just age her up a little in your head and stop thinking about, it is manga after all it's sad but it's almost rarer to find a shounen/seine w/out a problematic relationship.
Dude, my sister was a fan of this anime, and recommended it to me, she was very happy to show it to me, just with the first episode i felt just SOOO fucking UNCOMFORTABLE with that "300 year old demon"
yet youll play violent video games
@@logicallouis543violence and sexual crimes are different
@@dsali7725just because you like something in fiction doesn't mean you want it in real life which is what the person you're responding to is trying to say
@@michaeltaylor788
It often does, though. Most people can enjoy fantasy without acting on it, but those who _do_ act on it are usually influenced by said fantasies.
@@kirikakirikakirika Well if they are willing to act on it they were lost from the start. You can’t blame GTA if someone goes and shoots up a bunch of cops. It’s the person who is not in the right mind, not GTA.
Title alone, yes, yes and just yes. Meliodas is probably the most unlikable protagonist I have come across so far watching anime and I am genuinely confused as to whether the author actually wants me to root for him.
Get the groping out he is actually likable. Its that atcs author puts on the character making it so agrigious
Meliodas isn't excusable, Diane and king are okay because they're literally childhood sweethearts that had a crush on eachother till king had to leave for them to get back together when they're in the same age range which as a highball would be 15-16 is considered an act of pedophila. Secondly he tries to make a comparison between Gowther and naja from show to manga when damn well in the show she just passed out and that was it, skipping the sex scene. Finally.. Merlin isn't a child if the only thing she change was her physical appearance and had 3,000 years to develop mentally to a full grown adult and chooses to appear as an adult cause if she wanted to she would of chosen to be a kid. I'm not advocating but he literally makes his points sound dumb the more he adds on than just leaving it be and moving on. Literally could of cut this video down from 30-10 minutes.
@@10tailedbijuu Someone didn't watch the video
@@berilsevvalbekret772 yeah and he does it less in season 3 and 4
@@kingkyhora 🤓
I think it’s actually kinda hilarious that gouther would’ve been a great villain but nope, he’s somehow one of the “good guys”
@@10tailedbijuu I did but I dropped it. I think I finished season two before I gave up on it. What I meant though is his backstory and motivation would work great for a villain. Not specifically for this show but in general.
He would have been too op as a villain. Would have soloed all of the Sins tbh 😂
Ive had friends tell me this show is good, I didn't get into more than an episode but I surely didn't expect all...this
I mean the fights are good but yeah you shouldn't watch anything else.
@@thenerfkid9228 the lore and story is pretty good in some aspects
@@10tailedbijuujust shut up bro
@@10tailedbijuu me when i purposefully spread misinformation. stop lying about those times and acting like pedophilia was the norm PLEASE
anime's biggest problem is glorifying goonery and sus shit. sexualizing teenagers and kids, incest, harem's, the first episode always havinga rape scene in for shock value, relationships with creepy power dynamics, slavery, perverts and the slap of the wrist pnishments etc.... the whole point of having stuff like this in creative media is to show how bad they are, and to explore the negatives that come with it.
To be frank. Seven deadly sins demonstrates how far is too far.
What wrong with harems.
It kind of impossible for the average person to say all those things are bad when you realize rights don’t exist.
I know how? But most people don’t.😂😂
However harems are fire.
Know alot of people that have harems!👍👍👍
Many of those themes and tropes have been in Japanese media, art, and theatre for centuries. A famous example would be the Bunraku play The Love Suicide of Ohan and Choemon. It’s a popular Bunraku play about a 40 year old man who has an affair with his 14 year old sister, gets her pregnant, then at the end of the play they drown themselves in a river. Or an even older example would be the Genji Monogatari(The Tale of Genji) which has a chapter about Prince Genji falling in love with a 14 year old girl who he then later kidnaps, takes her back to the palace and starts to train her to emulate and become like his stepmother who he is also in love with and having an affair.
This reminds me of how creepy Zenitsu is. He is absolutely obsessed with Nezuko in the creepiest and most extreme way possible, and to make it even worse, Nezuko is infantalized throughout most of the story.
I wish he ended up with someone else
@@jonathantalo5419 yeah hate zenitsu
It sucks that he’s like since he’s my fav. I kinda wish they gave him an arc where he realizes “Hey the girl I’ve been obsessed over can’t even talk at the moment. Maybe I should reevaluate my situation.” And have him meet someone later down the line and fall in love.
@Crystre some charactrt development in that area would be nice.
Yesssss this
There wasn’t a single instance in this video where my expression of disgust ever faded away.
Ban and Elaine especially irritate me because their relationship is actually quite cute and as someone with a similar body type to Elaine, it was nice seeing that on screen. But of course she’s infantilised and child like making it really gross
I agree. I know she's 1000yo but she look just like a child and ofc ban fell in love with a fairy looking 5yo.
Bro if she 1000 years old that means she the groomer and pedo for fall for a grown man first
Same body type? Are you dwarf? (im not trying to insult, just curious)
@@МышковаОльга Nah, I'm just petite and have a baby-face
@@tomatosoup1304 Wa, how cute (why when i read all my comment they sounds like insults?)
God the fact the fact they made one of the best female charaters in the show a villain and a yandere in the sequel sounds like a fanfication a 12 year old wrote
I was about to touch the sequels but that jericho debauchery will make me never touch the series again. Wtf is wrong with the author 💀
All imma say is the creator needs to be on a watchlist 😅
They really let the creator slide without consequences
There none in Japan
@@AdoboSoGuud who is they lol
@@francisconavarrete3031 the publishers
@@AdoboSoGuud u mean the magazine that give him editors that tell the creator how to advance the story lol
What drives me up a wall is that most of these relationships sound really good on paper, but because of all the problematic stuff, it just makes it so much more worse than it would be without it.
remembering when my friend said that jjba sucked but stanned Seven Deadly Sins, like we all got opinions but girl 💀
@Poor Quality Edits sdp sure did
Well if they stanned this garbage, makes sense they hate JJBA. Jotaro literally beats up a child-molesting orangutan in the show.
@@2crisp63 anime fans when boa crushes on a 17 year old, jiraiya ask a 12 year old to display himself i a sexual manner,hisoka creeping around gon (brush it off)
Anime fans When ban dates a 3000 year old woman with a small body (SEVEN DEADLY PEDOSSSS)
@efri kamaya you're out of your mind or willfully ignorant if you think people don't have issues with literally all of those things. Especially hisoka and gon 😂
@@efrikamaya There's many people that had problems with Jiraya doing that shit, all the fandom acknowledges that Hisoka is a predo, I don't watch one piece.
So idk where you get the idea they're brushed off, especially the hisoka thing
Another not so fun fact about seven deadly pedos: is that the hawk’s (the cute pig.) rear mark slowly changes throughout the series representing one of the many pedo signs that gangs of pesos for some reason have a abundance of.
BRO I JUST GOOGLED THAT. EWWWWWWWWWW OMG THEY NEED TO SEARCH THE AUTHOR'S HOUSE NEEOOOWWW
@hatsuhuru9593 Honestly
@@hatsuhuru9593i just read mad comments saying he got arrested for cp😭
@@hatsuhuru9593where? I can’t find anything on it
@@Yourfavyoutuberkenma LMAO ?? but also ngl at least bros off the streets fr
I was in middle school when I saw the show so I can kinda forgive myself for not being as creeped out by everything back then as I am now. Honestly I was mostly there for the fights and Ban’s design
Same here. I was only 13/14, still green to anime, when I watched this series. So the creepy stuff flew over my head. I was just there to watch demons get their faces punched in.
That's completely understandable, it just goes to show how dangerous it can be to normalize this behaviour to children
I was eleven and felt uncomfortable but ignored it and man did I love Bon and I’m so sad I can’t rewatch the show for him because all the other stuff stops me from getting near anything ever again
same its crazy how i never saw it as wrong back then lol
Same 14/15 only there for the fights couldn't care less about what's else is going on
I still can't believe they managed to destroy jericho like that.
I understand she was in love with ban even tho ban doesn't see her that way & was already in love with someone else unfortunatly.
But now she's going after his son?
Seriously?
Are those writers really that desperate to make jericho collect some of ban's dna that badly, even when his son is not even legal?!
WAITT SERIOUSLY
OH HELL NAW 💀
Then again Ban is a pedophile for falling in love with a fairy with the body of a child. Just like everyone else in the anime. Vivian is also guilty of being a pedophile as she lusted over Gilthunder due to the 8 year age difference and she only knew him when he was a kid.
Character assassination.
WHAT THE FUCK i am so glad i quit this series on god
Bro was faster than me.
Jokes aside, if Jericho's "love" for Lancelot wasn't pedophile enough, Lancelot HIMSELF follows on his dad's footsteps and has a girlfriend, who looks lkke atoddler and is around 8 years old, while he was 16. And even worst, King Arthur - a 32 year old, GROWN A$$ MAN(!!!), chose to take that little girl as his BRIDE! (WTAF) 🤦♂️
I remember watching this series when I was like- 13, and thought this show was good. And yes. I did shipping. Namely Diane and King. But now that I’m older, I looked back and went: what the actual fuck is wrong with these characters?
Edit; ok, I should clarify. I liked the fights, and the actual storyline. But MAN the shipping stuff hits me like a vat of acid to the face now that I’m looking back on it. Haven’t touched the show for 4 years. Now I see why. Maybe my brain subconsciously caught onto the creepiness of the romances before I did.
@@10tailedbijuu man you are in every comment thread huh.
@@10tailedbijuu But why tho.
Why always children.
Even a furry game I played months ago made the youngest character 24, while the oldest 35.
Is Weebs standards that low Jesus xD
Oh gad same. I was obsessed with the manga when I was 13/14. The author needs someone to help him write relationships cause this man cannot be trusted. Only relationship I think isn’t so bad was Meliodas little brother who had an obviously of age vampire wife. Unless I’m forgetting something they seems alright
All they had to do was have Meliodas stay away from Elizabeth until she's an adult and not grope her at every opportunity
God I’m glad someone’s talked about it. Shit man, it’s all uncomfortable..
@@10tailedbijuu Bruh what's with you incel? You really think this shit is ok?
@@10tailedbijuu there are plenty of anime that aren’t nearly as egregious as this one
Funny story about this anime actually. Both my sister and I are lore fanatics when it comes to fiction and fantasy, I have been watching this anime ever since I was 13 and my sis has recently caught up with it, so the two of us had non-stop talk about the lore and the writing almost everyday around that time. (We both are very aware of how problematic it is once we grew older, but the writing when it comes to story arcs and non-romance related scenes are still pretty fucking good, doesn't excuse how horrific some scenes are, but still)
Eventually, my dad got curious (we got the nerd side from him lmao) and asked if he can watched the first episode. At this point the two of us just looked at each other and winced, but we still sit him down and watch the first episode of Seven Deadly Sins together.
He watched, at first he was intrigued... until Meleodas showed up and started to unconsensualy touching Elizabeth. Now, my dad is the type of person that has a lot of respect whamen juice in his system. So you can imagine how much he cringed whenever the touching happened, I had never seen him this uncomfortable in my life, it was both heartwarming and hilarious (heartwarming as glad that our dad is not a duche, hilarious as the face he was making was uh, definitely something special)(just imagine a 6 feet tall 60 year old man whom usually have a natural happy face, visibly shrinking and wincing because of how much he was cringing)
He still managed to watch half of the episode, then he paused it, and goes "... uh, this is a bit too sexist for me, can we watch Arcane instead?" And so we did :D
Moral of the day, Arcane is a pretty good bonding series to watch with your parents, Seven Deadly Sins is not, unless you like to bond with your parents by cringing at uncomfortable imagery
(Why do they have to do Ban like that, the man's a legend)(and Merline as well)(I had a huge crush on both of them)(what the fuck man)
This is obvious since Sds is never meant to be watched by everyone, you don't watch fan service and expect to not see any fan service.
I also don't and never would recommend it to fucking adults, as well as little kids...
how is the show's fault, christ
The true definition of cringe, something that makes your face contort in ways you didn't think it could
W dad
@@Cosmik60 when your body is literally deforming itself, ya know that shit is cringe
Yep its def 'top animes to show someone if you never want them to watch anime again' ... unless they're laser focused on plot or a creep
The way my ex called this his "favorite romance anime" should've been a much bigger red flag to me 4 years ago
Now I lowkey want to make sure he doesn't live near any schools
(for context, we dated during my final year of uni, after he had served 4 years in the military. we were both full adults)
Had a crush on a guy, then he told me the same thing, crush disappeared instantly ☠
Bruh, my ex who dated me when I was still in school and him going to uni (who i met on the internet), loved the ban x Elaine ship... that should have been a sign...
I feel like that's only semi-acceptable if you're an oblivious child. When I was ten I loved this show. However, even me as a ten year old was kind of confused and weirded out by Meliodas trying to get with a baby, by Ban getting with a girl that looked my age, by Diane and King and by Gowther's horribleness. I was there literally only for the action and for the fight scenes, but romance was scoring negative points to me even as an oblivious ten year old. I can't believe grown adult people think this show's romance is good. Then again, weebs watched Assassin's Pride and Mushoko Tensei and raved over them.
@@azulyraazul9287 i think the (met on the internet) part should also have been a big flag when you thought about that one
Okay but what should i do when my gf says tha same? ☠️
"But wait-! There's more!" ahh anime. cant believe this was my first anime EVER because my brother told me to watch it with him and i was like 9 when i watched it so i didnt know what was going on
I've never seen this many dislikes in so few minutes on a Sarcastic Chorus video. Didn't know 7DS had any stans left, let alone those in denial.
How are you seeing the dislike ratio?!
I admit I did like the anime... but I also very much see why it's problematic and am kind of hitting myself for being this dense for so long...
@@1408alejandro1408 Browser plug in
@@CollinMcLean I loved it when the first season dropped on Netflix, but I always had issues with the couples, most of all ban and Elaine. Idk why, but I shipped Diane and King. I think my brain chose not to absorb the info that King and Diane weren't both children.
Speaking as another Stan for the Franchise, I still enjoy it.
I won't hold it against anyone who disagrees and say they don't like it, though. That wouldn't be cool.
The old ""Im a loli but I am a 1000 years old dragon" troupe is so obnoxious.
Excuses, excuses.
“I’m a 179,000 Graham’s Number year-old Godlike Lovecraftian entity who has the power to create and destroy millions of realities in a single thought but yet I choose to have my physical form be that of a prepubescent Japanese schoolgirl”
I feel like it could be really funny if it was a decision for comedic purposes but it's always clearly a sexual thing. Like a thousand year old immortal trapped in the body of an elementary schooler sounds like it could be hilarious but they're always half naked for some reason and it seems like the inherent comedy of that kind of situation is never addressed.
@@timetraveler_from_2012 I mean the problem is just a number which can be easily fixed 🤔
@@timetraveler_from_2012I mean The Great Jahy-Sama or whatever did that trope well. Bevause its comedu
The fact that my abusive ex was in love w this anime and would be confused as to why i felt weird about a lot of this shit says a lot.
are you okay?
@@luckyautumnn yeah am ok now not with him anymore
😂😂😂
@@univirmicahhhGlad you left this weirdo
I love this show but can admit this show is a big ass red flag
"The coolest character in the show and they made him a pedophile with extra steps"
I understood that reference
I had a weird feeling while watching the anime but I couldn't put it into words and this video explained EVERYTHING, my friends like this show and I can't help but ask why.
Dude same. My friend played it once during a smoke session and even when I was faded ash I still had questions 💀
The action scenes, really no other reason, you won't, if barely, hear about character personalities when people talk about the show
My friends like this show and I can't help but ask why.? Because many people can distinguish between fiction and reality, everyone should do this, nothing in this anime is real, 🙃this is fiction, in this case, I recommend reading any mythology, even Arabic mythology, or irish folklore it will be even rougher than this anime seven deadly sins is like a twisted mythology, after all, it was made from them,🤔 because there is another world, reincarnation, demons, fairies and angels just like in other mythologies
Before I jsnoticed this shit I love 7 deadly sins for its fun and fights 7 deadly sins is still 1 of the most popular animes ever
@@knuckles9195even if you wanted to use the argument that other works of fiction did the same if not worse, it’s still not a good argument. No matter the work if it portrays minors in a sexual manner, we as an audience can go “hey that’s incredibly strange and just wrong”. Especially for a series that portrays relationships with people that look like minors as normal, it’s just bizarre. The only reason why people can kind of brush it under the rug is because it’s an anime/manga and we’re so desensitized to these types of tropes that we often don’t see how incredibly problematic they are.
"He's beet red, sweating bullets, waiting for Chris Hansen to walk in" I'm done 😭🤣
It pisses me off SO much that Ban could have had a perfectly respectable and enjoyable romance with Jericho… but no, he had to hook up with the “legal” elementary schooler
Jericho is so much better
This is such an idiotic take. Nothing else about her is elementary besides her appearance. There are tons of adults with baby faces or that are small and look like children.
@@kombatman8802 she is designed to have the body of a little girl. It is literally stated multiple times throughout the series
@@bizaster Because she’s a fucking fairy. Look at King who looks like a little boy. Their both siblings.
Just because she looks like a little girl does not mean she is one. So for the last time stop with bs. Jericho having a way more attractive body is not good reasoning for why she should be with Ban instead.
Elaine connects with him on an actual romantic emotional level.
@@kombatman8802I'm a petite adult with a relatively younger looking face, I still have the proportions of an adult
It's nothing compared to how they buther Jericho's character in the sequel 4 Knights of apocalypse. Whete Jerico who had a crush on Ban, also had a crush with his son Lancelot. And to make matter worst, she was motivated to support Arthur because she wanted a fake reality where Lancelot is her husband.
Writer decided to annihilating her character completely.
When I found out about merlin it didn't even occur to me it was another relationship dynamic that they are so fond of. I'm glad that escanor didn't fall in love with her in her child form but rather in her grown up form, that's what makes it better for me at least.
Even after I realized all the problematic things with itI continued to watch SDS because I enjoyed the story. I wanted to see how everything was resolved, I don't endorse the pedo bait.
this shows relationship dynamics were gross, but the story was interesting I can give it that. I did not know that the manga had those scenes and I'm absolutely horrified they drew that and thought it was okay.
Merlin even has a successor in the sequel in Arthur’s niece Gawain. A little girl who turns herself into a seven foot Amazon woman but is…..still a little girl and acts like it the moment she doesn’t get her way.
I'm more suprised that the editor and the publisher thought it was ok to publish it
What makes Meliodas and Elizabeth's relationship worse in the grooming aspect is that Meliodas pretty much stopped groping her the second she regained her memories and it just shows that he had no problem taking advantage of her when she didn't have the power to put a stop to it. He also made a joke in one of the earlier seasons - I think in regards to Diane - that it "just wasn't the same" when women initiated sexual activities with him, insinuating that consent takes the fun out of it. And I think the whole arc with Gauthier and Gila went over my head, because I didn't even realize the implications of that situation until you explained it, but it's so fucked up for no reason! I think I just wrote so much of this shit off as "shock value" to make the content digestible because unfortunately I'm used to anime playing the "shock value" card way too much.
thats just japan for you
@@poopymaster_kingXxninjaXX69420this sounds racist
@@meriewanderer average twitter user
@@poopymaster_kingXxninjaXX69420 love how twitter user is an insult
@@meriewanderer awww really?
im happy for you :)
7:02 At this point you remember that Elizabeth's sisters were the best case scenario. One got married to her childhood crush and the other to the beefiest Holy knight who was raised by a demon who possessed his father, and yes the demon was one of the best fathers in anime as not only was he there for the kid, he encouraged his growth and raised him to be a good and strong man. The only issue is that in the sequel Gilthunder's son became an elitist prick, which baffles me considering that his parents are some of the nicest characters in the series.
Wait, really???
Even then Griamore got turned into a kid briefly too, and you got Veronica cuddling and kissing him in bed although that scene seemed more like a mother taking care of a child
@@DaDualityofMan Yeah, it wasn’t long after Griamore got turned into a kid thhat I got sick of the show. I was so annoyed with multiple narrative problems, including not one but two characters (Diane and Griamore) having their character arcs put on hold or reset by something so apparently unnecessary.
@@samiamrg7 Yeah most of the non-Sin characters really get shafted
@@DaDualityofMan The power creep was out of control after season one. Meli went from someone nearly dying from using revenge counter to one shotting the demon who killed an entire nation easily.
i unfortunately watched the whole show, and didn’t catch onto these things until watching this. i am now utterly disgusted with the show and writers, never going to acknowledge this anime ever again
Quite literally all of this could of been avoided with one or two changes per character
If Gowther instead used mind control powers to mind control a town into thinking he alone saved them, that would get the "yeah he's a bit unstable" well
If Elaine wasn't looking like she was 12 it would be fine
if Meliodus didn't find her until she was an adult each time it would of been, fine, weird but fine, whatever
If Merlin's true form wasn't a toddler would of been fine, maybe make the true form closer to the thing because spooky immortality deals I dunno
If Diane wasn't a kid but a tiny giant who just so happens to go through a growth spurt it would of been fine
I agreed to all of the changes
Man it wouldve been that easy to make shit not weird 😭
I used to love 7ds, cant believe its come to this 💀
or if he drew elaine how he drew gawain it would be fine. She's the only short girl who looks like an actual adult or at least gone through puberty.
No it would have been boring leave as is. Not every show needs to be perfect.
@@asandax6 huh? 😰
If the character design by itself doesn't put you off, pretty much every other aspect of this series will.
Cool fights truly can only carry so much.
Ironically, the artstyle is one of the main reasons I even put up with this show. Its stylistic and the artstyle doesnt even look gross. If there's one manga that I will not ever touch because of artstyle, its demon slayer
The characters are interesting and great to me. Even if some actions are questionable, it’s never because of the reasons here.
@@tlkfanrwbyfan8716 no
@@xnortheast1106 Mind explaining instead of giving a pointless answer?
@@tlkfanrwbyfan8716 I already did
I stopped watching this show a long time ago but damn I didn’t know about meliodas history with Elizabeth.that love story could have been so beautiful If they didn’t make it so creep.
I ALSO THOUGHT KING AND DIANE WERE BOTH KIDS I THOUGHT IT WAS A CHILDHOOD LOVE STORY WHAT THE ACTUAL HELL
GOSH GAUTHER’S ORIGIN IS SO COOL WHY DO THEY HAVE TO RUIN IT BY MAKING EVERY GOOD THING AWFUL
Same
escanor best character
I agree. Meliodas was so loyal, but goddammit, at least make his short stature a little more adult-looking like Levi Ackerman and have him meet each Elizabeth as an adult 🤦♀️.
Some of my friends asked me why I hate this show If I barely watched the first episode. Now I can send this to them and save my time
Bruh my friends back then tried getting me into this show so damn much, glad I didn't💀💀💀