thank you so so much!!! and yes! i love showing off my process and progress :) i love getting feedback and showing off wips :p and thank you!!! you too!!!
YASSS there’s already a version out with lyrics on this channel tho the singing sucks lmaooo (demo in -6C) also thank you so so much for the support !!! and id LOVE to hear this live too, maybe someday if i can afford an orchestra :p
Sounds so good. You have a talent for music. I don't know why YT recommended this channel, but I am sure glad it did. I really hope you get more subscribers. Most of all, have fun!!!!!!👍👍👍
btw one nitpick: if i were composing this, at 4:24 i would make that trumpet play an ab instead of an f, so 3 notes higher. its the last time the trumpet plays that line before the phrase ends, so the higher ab makes it sound more triumphant and finalized before moving to the next section. just a suggestion
thank you so much!!!! im really really glad you enjoyed! i might tweak around with the trumpet playing higher there, i could def see that sounding good!!! and thank you!! sorry for taking forever to respond lol i got caught up w college :p
very neet! one thing I would have loved to hear though was a little section where you break away from the steady quarters on the piano. A little interlude with just some solo strings or something for a little contrast:)
genuinely have no clue as to why this popped up on my Recommended (although it might have to do with me being an all things music/production nerd) but this was nice find. beautiful piece you've got there, congratulations.
470 now. 😎 edit: Seen the whole video. Holy shit that was beautiful. There are some discordant semitones in there which are just gorgeous. I'll have to dig deep to work them out but whilst they're unconventional, there are no rules in music. It works so, so well.
thank you so so so much :)) idk if it’s quite as good as olive but that means a lot that you really enjoyed it :D and yes i tried to go for as much cody as i could
Minor feedback, I think the final chord would work better as a softer gliss sort of thing rather than a heavy punch since the song winds down arrangement wise and the final hit isn't being punctuated by other instruments, it would leave a more touching/reflective feeling imo. The song feels very chord progression focused and has a constant momentum to it which is great, I'm interested to hear the vocal melody you have in mind as I can hear a lot of options in my head from these chord choices. You mentioned possibly recording the piano instead of using midi, and from other videos it looks like you have access to pianos in practice spaces so if you have an audio interface and laptop, you're just a mic and stand away from going rogue and recording there if you can find a time where nobody else is making noise (I'd recommend a large diaphragm condenser mic and looking up single mic piano recording techniques). Also I'm assuming you're a music student, in which case the audio engineer students often have projects where they need to record songs for people, just something to consider. Alternatively, if you want the piano to sound less midi and robotic, a lot of DAWs have a quantizing effect called "humanizing" that will slightly nudge the dynamics and timing of notes to create more organic of a performance out of the existing midi. Best of luck to you!
thank you so so much for the feedback!!!! yeah, i’ve received a lot of feedback saying to change the ending of the song, i’m definitely going to. idk if i want to end on this chord (Fa maj7) or end on the second to last chord and just have it sort of fade away. either way i don’t want it to resolve fully. and yes, this song is **very** chord progression focused. the original song was just piano and voice, but paulieboy suggested i add instrumentation, meaning it’s chord progression focus is still very much intact. i am very partial to the arpeggio idea at the end though, that’s a good idea!!! and no im not a music student but to be honest i probably will declare a music major at some point :p i do have an audio interface but i need a condenser mic, i only have an SM57 which to my knowledge isn’t super good for piano(?). and i think i have humanized it, although i didn’t do it that much, i should probably do more :p but thank you so so much for the feedback!!! i’m glad you enjoyed!!!
@@elliejf Correct, the SM57 would not be an ideal mic for piano due to it lacking low and high frequencies and requiring the sound source to be very close to the mic in order to capture it. Condenser mics are like night and day compared to a dynamic mic like the SM57 when recording vocals and generally brighter instruments. If you are looking for a condenser mic, the brand MXL is the best balance of affordable and quality I've found. I use an MXL V67G (large diaphragm) for voice and MXL V67N (small diaphragm) for pretty much anything else and I've found both to be extremely versatile, and both are around $100 just like the SM57. Your interface needs to have phantom power (a button labeled +48V that pretty much every interface should have) or else the mic won't work properly.
thank yoh so much!!! and yes yes i do have a passion for music, id love to do it as the main thing i do in life someday though i doubt that’d be possible :p
Woah, I was not expecting that. I loved the part where you introduced the piano chords that are like, going up and down between octaves. Your use of the different families is very impressive too :D great job!!!
thank you so much!!! this song actually started out on just piano (and voice) with those piano chords on the different octaves, and once i added orchestration i’m glad that ascending vibe still takes hold :) i’m so so glad you enjoyed!! and yes i tried my best to blend together solo brass and solo strings in a good way :D thank you so much!!!
I’m delighted to have come across your channel, I greatly enjoyed this piece, and I have some thoughts that I hope can serve as constructive criticism from a sincere admirer: This piece in many ways feels like a piano performance, with added frills. I would guess knowing absolutely nothing about you or your set up that the piano is live performance and the rest dialled in digitally- the introductory swell of the strings feels good, and the build up of suspense is quite effective, however this build up probably takes too long, and doesn’t really lead the listener anywhere, and at this stage I feel the piece requires a bit more identity, specifically in terms of where it’s trying to go, and why. Your choice of accompanying instrumentation fills out your overall sound well, but does not inform the direction of the piece, this is listener is left wondering what the purpose of this journey was. Is this just an expression on keys supported by wider orchestration? Or does this have further merit that could be better explored with a more obvious sense of structure, theme and direction? Thanks again for an evocative piece, consider the above comments good food for thought, and keep doing what feels not only right, but interesting to you.
thank you so much for the support, that means so much!!!! and thank you so much for the substantial comment!!! in a lot of ways, it is a piano performance with added frills! this song started off with just piano and voice, until paulieboy (another viewer and friend) commented that i should go in an orchestral direction with it. the piano is MIDI as is everything else. im glad the swelling seems to grow well, as i spent a while trying to make it grow effectively. if you dont mind me asking, what didnt work for you with the climax? i tried my best to make the climax as strong as possible while still keeping it smooth without percussion, but i can understand why it might not seem as strong of a climax as i thought it was :p in a way i guess the fact that the listener feels lost with this piece is reflective of its overall meaning, as many of the lyrics (there will be singing with this piece as well) are such like "where are we now?" and "when will my place be found?", but i also completelt understand if that feels like less of an artistic choice and more like i just completely lost direction while writing this piece and it could make the listener feel unsatisfied rather than longing for more. this piece is effectively complete as far as i alone am concerned, but i will probably tinker around with it given your and many others' feedback!!! thank you so so so much for the substantial comment and feedback, it is extraordinarily helpful :D
This is great fun engaging with other musicians in this environment! I’m delighted you’re enjoying the exchange, it’s tricky to criticise in writing. I used the wrong language initially, I just meant I knew you had played the keys and that the rest was programmed. Any way, to answer your question, in it’s current form on this video, the track feels more like a soundtrack than a “song” I’m sure that hearing the lyrics would inform the listener hugely on why it moves the way it does, as it stands I can’t hear what the intended meaning of the track is, and therefore the climax had no context, and for me felt a little dragged out, and the journey to it felt slightly wooden and methodical. However, this may have been exactly how you wanted it to sound, I’d look forward to hearing it with lyrics attached. As a drummer I’m also listening for the rhythm/ groove which is missing currently, however, adding a beat/ groove would drastically change the way the whole song feels and pull it in a new direction depending on how you did it. If someone asked me how to improve the song as is, I’d ask what you’re trying to communicate, and would then look at adding a groove, and then revisiting where the melody lines of the orchestration could be adapted to suit the groove, lyrics, and overall feeling. Hope that feels like a productive excercise for you to consider 😊
This sounds absolutely amazing!! Don't mind my shameless self promotion when I say I know its hard to get views on these video's (as I have 1 and am planning to make more), So I am most happy when I saw this video pop up in my reccomended! I really enjoyed the way this arrangement evolved into something with so much emotion. keep up the good word!
thank you so much!!! and no don’t worry you’re fine :p i recently got a huge wave of support on here which was really really cool!! and thank you for enjoying the arrangement it means a lot :D
i’m using EastWest Symphony Orchestra!! it’s a cheap VST and it’s subscription-based which works for me as someone without a lot of money :p it has a few flaws (sometimes you can hear background noise or stuff falling over and such lol) but it’s really good for being so cheap :D
Wow, reaper, cool! Using keyboard sometimes help cos it writes velocity also, so you can save time by not writing it afterwards by hand, but it's not always the case. Listened a couple of times right now and will listen again later, interesting piece.
@@elliejfI just wanna second the opinion of the original commenter, playing in the midi instead of writing it doesn't just help with velocity but also with the placement of the notes and overall makes the piano sound more organic even if its a virtual piano. Please keep up all the great work!
Great song! And congrats, you've been picked up by the algos (expect more traffic coming your way the coming days) - make sure to keep the content coming. This could be a pivot point in your career.
thank you so much for the support!!! and don’t worry i have some videos coming soon, i wasn’t expecting this video to blow up. honestly in the past two weeks ive had so many videos the algorithm has pushed randomly and im so excited!!
Hi, got this recommended by youtube. I think you can cut out the first 5 seconds from the beginning because it doesn't say or adds anything to the song. Overall I can say you have a beautiful idea of a motif but it lacks so much contrast and attitude that gets monotonous fast. I can see the cinematic inspirations from Zimmer and Max Richter. The transition from 2:34 with the repeated compas into the verse sounds like someone stumbling before stepping into a house. It doesn't sound nice. The fade out to end the song is cliché, I would have prefered if you ended it where it has to, for example a sustained large note at 4:30 or even earlier in 4:20 in a high victorious note in form of a question mark. It's nice but I think It needs some work. I know you can care o not about this opinion, at the end is your thing. Subscribed anyways. Thank you!
thank you so much for the feedback! and for the record i didn’t take any inspo from Zimmer since he doesn’t even write his own music 💀💀 but that out of the way thank you!! this song will have lyrics and a melody over it (that’s why im calling it a song vs a piece) so i’m hoping most of the things that are seen as negatives fade away a lil bit once i add singing. i see a lil bit what you mean of how it sounds like it’s stumbling, i guess to me that sounds intentional but i might tinker adjound with it given my ears are stale here lol. i miiiiiight not fade it out as much, but again i hope it will make more sense once the lyrics are there too lol :p i might change it to end like how Cody Fry’s Eleanor Rigbt does on a high energetic note but without much bass? idk, just a thought. and thank you so so much for subscribing, i hope you enjoy my other stuff!! and of course i care about feedback, that’s half the point of this channel :D
It's really neat to see the casual ins-and-outs of your songmaking! I hope you have a brilliant day :)
thank you so so much!!! and yes! i love showing off my process and progress :) i love getting feedback and showing off wips :p and thank you!!! you too!!!
Hi Ellie! this is an amaizing job!! can wait to hear more.
thank you so so much!!! dw im still perfecting the lyrics for it :p
Amazing song! You are very talented
thank you so so much!! :D
You are so talented!!! So inspiring ❤
thank you so so much!!!! :D
Nice job on orchestarting the build-up!
thank you so so much!!! :))
randomly on my recommended and this was genuinely amazing!
thank you so so much!!! i’m glad you enjoyed :p
i would absolutely love to hear this song live it is so beautiful
THERES GONNA BE LYRICS HELL YEAH IT’S GONNA BE SO GOOD
YASSS there’s already a version out with lyrics on this channel tho the singing sucks lmaooo (demo in -6C) also thank you so so much for the support !!! and id LOVE to hear this live too, maybe someday if i can afford an orchestra :p
sick composition!
thank you so much!!! :DD
Sounds so good. You have a talent for music. I don't know why YT recommended this channel, but I am sure glad it did. I really hope you get more subscribers. Most of all, have fun!!!!!!👍👍👍
thank you so so much!! i’m so glad you enjoyed :))) i’m so glad you stuck around!! and don’t worry i’m having fun :p
Wow, this sounds really good, a truly beautiful piece
thank you so so much quandale dingle!!
I don't know why but this gave real Hanz Zimmer vibes, awesome music, keep up the great work!
lol thanks!!! i mean Hans Zimmer doesn’t write his own music anymore lol but i’m glad i sound like what his writers put out!!! :D
this is so cool!! really pretty voicings. also your hair is so cute just had to say that
btw one nitpick: if i were composing this, at 4:24 i would make that trumpet play an ab instead of an f, so 3 notes higher. its the last time the trumpet plays that line before the phrase ends, so the higher ab makes it sound more triumphant and finalized before moving to the next section. just a suggestion
thank you so much!!!! im really really glad you enjoyed! i might tweak around with the trumpet playing higher there, i could def see that sounding good!!! and thank you!! sorry for taking forever to respond lol i got caught up w college :p
this is really good. you're going places and ur gonna do big things some day.
thank you so much!!! i really hope so :p
very neet! one thing I would have loved to hear though was a little section where you break away from the steady quarters on the piano. A little interlude with just some solo strings or something for a little contrast:)
ooh maybe!!! what part of the song do you think that would work best for? and thank you so much for the support!!!
Great work, well done
I don't usually thank my RUclips Algorithm but this time, thank you Algorithm
thank you so much for the support!!! i’m so glad you enjoyed (and shoutout to the algorithm for bringing you here :p)
genuinely have no clue as to why this popped up on my Recommended (although it might have to do with me being an all things music/production nerd) but this was nice find. beautiful piece you've got there, congratulations.
thank you so so much!!! im so glad you enjoyed it and the all powerful YT algorithm deemed me worthy :p
I get chills every time.. God.
this wouldn’t have the strings without that feedback from you :))
@@elliejf couldn't have given the feedback without your creative vision and foundation :)
OH DAMN THAT'S GOOD
thank you so much!!!! :D
470 now. 😎
edit: Seen the whole video. Holy shit that was beautiful. There are some discordant semitones in there which are just gorgeous. I'll have to dig deep to work them out but whilst they're unconventional, there are no rules in music. It works so, so well.
thank you so so much!!! yeah i tried to make sure past a certain point that every single chord and section had a lot of dissonance :D
@@elliejfDissonant is a much better word. It's so spicy, I love it, genuinely
I feel like this has the potential to be the next Olive. It’s so beautiful and very Cody Fry esc. I’m excited to see where this one goes
thank you so so so much :)) idk if it’s quite as good as olive but that means a lot that you really enjoyed it :D and yes i tried to go for as much cody as i could
Very nice. Very beautiful and worthy of inclusion in a soundtrack for a dreamy scene.
thank you so so much!!! i’m glad the energetic yet dreamy vibe translated well!!! :D
I feel every song you put there is quality, and this one may be my favourite!
thank you so much!!!! i’m glad you like this one a lot :D
French Horn 😍
french horn >>>> nothing can beat it
dude i am on like the polar opposite of music and this is like actually really cool why can’t my school band play stuff like this
LMAO i feel like a band wouldn’t enjoy this since it’s kinda slow but that would be cool!!! but in really glad you enjoyed!!! :))
Sounds awesome! 👏👏
thank you so much!!! :DD
Minor feedback, I think the final chord would work better as a softer gliss sort of thing rather than a heavy punch since the song winds down arrangement wise and the final hit isn't being punctuated by other instruments, it would leave a more touching/reflective feeling imo. The song feels very chord progression focused and has a constant momentum to it which is great, I'm interested to hear the vocal melody you have in mind as I can hear a lot of options in my head from these chord choices. You mentioned possibly recording the piano instead of using midi, and from other videos it looks like you have access to pianos in practice spaces so if you have an audio interface and laptop, you're just a mic and stand away from going rogue and recording there if you can find a time where nobody else is making noise (I'd recommend a large diaphragm condenser mic and looking up single mic piano recording techniques). Also I'm assuming you're a music student, in which case the audio engineer students often have projects where they need to record songs for people, just something to consider. Alternatively, if you want the piano to sound less midi and robotic, a lot of DAWs have a quantizing effect called "humanizing" that will slightly nudge the dynamics and timing of notes to create more organic of a performance out of the existing midi. Best of luck to you!
thank you so so much for the feedback!!!! yeah, i’ve received a lot of feedback saying to change the ending of the song, i’m definitely going to. idk if i want to end on this chord (Fa maj7) or end on the second to last chord and just have it sort of fade away. either way i don’t want it to resolve fully. and yes, this song is **very** chord progression focused. the original song was just piano and voice, but paulieboy suggested i add instrumentation, meaning it’s chord progression focus is still very much intact. i am very partial to the arpeggio idea at the end though, that’s a good idea!!! and no im not a music student but to be honest i probably will declare a music major at some point :p i do have an audio interface but i need a condenser mic, i only have an SM57 which to my knowledge isn’t super good for piano(?). and i think i have humanized it, although i didn’t do it that much, i should probably do more :p but thank you so so much for the feedback!!! i’m glad you enjoyed!!!
@@elliejf Correct, the SM57 would not be an ideal mic for piano due to it lacking low and high frequencies and requiring the sound source to be very close to the mic in order to capture it. Condenser mics are like night and day compared to a dynamic mic like the SM57 when recording vocals and generally brighter instruments. If you are looking for a condenser mic, the brand MXL is the best balance of affordable and quality I've found. I use an MXL V67G (large diaphragm) for voice and MXL V67N (small diaphragm) for pretty much anything else and I've found both to be extremely versatile, and both are around $100 just like the SM57. Your interface needs to have phantom power (a button labeled +48V that pretty much every interface should have) or else the mic won't work properly.
sounds very nice and moving! i can tell you have a passion for making music, and that's all that you need as a musician imo :)
thank yoh so much!!! and yes yes i do have a passion for music, id love to do it as the main thing i do in life someday though i doubt that’d be possible :p
I'm so glad I got recommended this. this is awesome and i also love your electric guitar necklace lmao
thank you so much!!! i’m really glad you enjoyed :D also i got it at a local thrift store :p
Woah, I was not expecting that. I loved the part where you introduced the piano chords that are like, going up and down between octaves. Your use of the different families is very impressive too :D great job!!!
thank you so much!!! this song actually started out on just piano (and voice) with those piano chords on the different octaves, and once i added orchestration i’m glad that ascending vibe still takes hold :) i’m so so glad you enjoyed!! and yes i tried my best to blend together solo brass and solo strings in a good way :D thank you so much!!!
Hi! This is really truly fantastic. But I was wonder what software are you using?
thank you so much!!! i’m using REAPER as the DAW and EastWest VSTs for the sampling!!!
I’m delighted to have come across your channel, I greatly enjoyed this piece, and I have some thoughts that I hope can serve as constructive criticism from a sincere admirer:
This piece in many ways feels like a piano performance, with added frills. I would guess knowing absolutely nothing about you or your set up that the piano is live performance and the rest dialled in digitally- the introductory swell of the strings feels good, and the build up of suspense is quite effective, however this build up probably takes too long, and doesn’t really lead the listener anywhere, and at this stage I feel the piece requires a bit more identity, specifically in terms of where it’s trying to go, and why. Your choice of accompanying instrumentation fills out your overall sound well, but does not inform the direction of the piece, this is listener is left wondering what the purpose of this journey was.
Is this just an expression on keys supported by wider orchestration? Or does this have further merit that could be better explored with a more obvious sense of structure, theme and direction?
Thanks again for an evocative piece, consider the above comments good food for thought, and keep doing what feels not only right, but interesting to you.
thank you so much for the support, that means so much!!!! and thank you so much for the substantial comment!!!
in a lot of ways, it is a piano performance with added frills! this song started off with just piano and voice, until paulieboy (another viewer and friend) commented that i should go in an orchestral direction with it. the piano is MIDI as is everything else. im glad the swelling seems to grow well, as i spent a while trying to make it grow effectively. if you dont mind me asking, what didnt work for you with the climax? i tried my best to make the climax as strong as possible while still keeping it smooth without percussion, but i can understand why it might not seem as strong of a climax as i thought it was :p in a way i guess the fact that the listener feels lost with this piece is reflective of its overall meaning, as many of the lyrics (there will be singing with this piece as well) are such like "where are we now?" and "when will my place be found?", but i also completelt understand if that feels like less of an artistic choice and more like i just completely lost direction while writing this piece and it could make the listener feel unsatisfied rather than longing for more.
this piece is effectively complete as far as i alone am concerned, but i will probably tinker around with it given your and many others' feedback!!! thank you so so so much for the substantial comment and feedback, it is extraordinarily helpful :D
This is great fun engaging with other musicians in this environment! I’m delighted you’re enjoying the exchange, it’s tricky to criticise in writing.
I used the wrong language initially, I just meant I knew you had played the keys and that the rest was programmed.
Any way, to answer your question, in it’s current form on this video, the track feels more like a soundtrack than a “song” I’m sure that hearing the lyrics would inform the listener hugely on why it moves the way it does, as it stands I can’t hear what the intended meaning of the track is, and therefore the climax had no context, and for me felt a little dragged out, and the journey to it felt slightly wooden and methodical.
However, this may have been exactly how you wanted it to sound, I’d look forward to hearing it with lyrics attached. As a drummer I’m also listening for the rhythm/ groove which is missing currently, however, adding a beat/ groove would drastically change the way the whole song feels and pull it in a new direction depending on how you did it.
If someone asked me how to improve the song as is, I’d ask what you’re trying to communicate, and would then look at adding a groove, and then revisiting where the melody lines of the orchestration could be adapted to suit the groove, lyrics, and overall feeling.
Hope that feels like a productive excercise for you to consider 😊
This sounds absolutely amazing!! Don't mind my shameless self promotion when I say I know its hard to get views on these video's (as I have 1 and am planning to make more), So I am most happy when I saw this video pop up in my reccomended! I really enjoyed the way this arrangement evolved into something with so much emotion. keep up the good word!
thank you so much!!! and no don’t worry you’re fine :p i recently got a huge wave of support on here which was really really cool!! and thank you for enjoying the arrangement it means a lot :D
so flipping good!!!! still waiting on Drake and yebba to show up
i’m a bit out of their league, sad for them :(
What kind of VST's are you using for this?
i’m using EastWest Symphony Orchestra!! it’s a cheap VST and it’s subscription-based which works for me as someone without a lot of money :p it has a few flaws (sometimes you can hear background noise or stuff falling over and such lol) but it’s really good for being so cheap :D
Wow, reaper, cool! Using keyboard sometimes help cos it writes velocity also, so you can save time by not writing it afterwards by hand, but it's not always the case. Listened a couple of times right now and will listen again later, interesting piece.
that’s true, i’m just not sure about if i want to re-record the keyboard if its gonna be virtual anyway but idk 🤷♀️ but thank you so so much!!!!
@@elliejfI just wanna second the opinion of the original commenter, playing in the midi instead of writing it doesn't just help with velocity but also with the placement of the notes and overall makes the piano sound more organic even if its a virtual piano. Please keep up all the great work!
Great song! And congrats, you've been picked up by the algos (expect more traffic coming your way the coming days) - make sure to keep the content coming. This could be a pivot point in your career.
thank you so much for the support!!! and don’t worry i have some videos coming soon, i wasn’t expecting this video to blow up. honestly in the past two weeks ive had so many videos the algorithm has pushed randomly and im so excited!!
What software did you use to make this?
i used REAPER as the DAW and EastWest for the VSTs for the sampling!!!
@@elliejf ok thanks
Hi, got this recommended by youtube. I think you can cut out the first 5 seconds from the beginning because it doesn't say or adds anything to the song. Overall I can say you have a beautiful idea of a motif but it lacks so much contrast and attitude that gets monotonous fast. I can see the cinematic inspirations from Zimmer and Max Richter. The transition from 2:34 with the repeated compas into the verse sounds like someone stumbling before stepping into a house. It doesn't sound nice. The fade out to end the song is cliché, I would have prefered if you ended it where it has to, for example a sustained large note at 4:30 or even earlier in 4:20 in a high victorious note in form of a question mark. It's nice but I think It needs some work. I know you can care o not about this opinion, at the end is your thing. Subscribed anyways. Thank you!
thank you so much for the feedback! and for the record i didn’t take any inspo from Zimmer since he doesn’t even write his own music 💀💀 but that out of the way thank you!! this song will have lyrics and a melody over it (that’s why im calling it a song vs a piece) so i’m hoping most of the things that are seen as negatives fade away a lil bit once i add singing. i see a lil bit what you mean of how it sounds like it’s stumbling, i guess to me that sounds intentional but i might tinker adjound with it given my ears are stale here lol. i miiiiiight not fade it out as much, but again i hope it will make more sense once the lyrics are there too lol :p i might change it to end like how Cody Fry’s Eleanor Rigbt does on a high energetic note but without much bass? idk, just a thought. and thank you so so much for subscribing, i hope you enjoy my other stuff!! and of course i care about feedback, that’s half the point of this channel :D
man...this is insanely pretty
thank you so much!!! i’m glad you enjoyed :)