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You have learned a lot about Europe just(?) by watching videos. I'm really impressed. Greetings from Helsinki!
As an ethnic Estonian I would say that we are culturally and linguistically more similar to Finns than Latvians. Finns and Estonians are both Finnic nations and have common roots in every sense. We are also culturally protestant, mostly Lutheran like Sweden and other Scandinavian nations, although most people aren't active Christians. That all is also the reason why a lot of Estonians define themselves as Nordic people together with Finns and Scandinavians, not Baltic.
The Soviet *Russian* occupation was terrible for Estonia in many ways. In addition to collectivization, mass deportations etc it also set Estonia back economically. GDP per capita of Estonia was roughly the same as in Finland before WWII, but now we're still catching up because of the occupation. Soviets also had Russification policy in the 1960s -1980s, which encouraged Russians to migrate to Estonia basically as colonists, although it was illegal to colonize occupied territories by international law. Some towns were almost entirely ethnically cleansed from ethnic Estonians. Even today Russians make up about 25% of all residents, and almost half in the capital Tallinn. Ethnic Estonians made up approximately 80% of all residents before WWII, others were small minorities of Germans, Swedes and Russians. Finland's ethnic Finnish population is still around 80% like it used to be in Estonia with Estonians.
I also should mention that while Finland has only been ruled by the Swedish Kingdom and Russian Empire, Estonia has been ruled by the Danish Kingdom, German (Holy Roman Empire), Swedish Kingdom, Polish Kingdom and Russian Empire. Since Estonia was split to Northern and Southern part until 1917, two regions have had different rulers at times. For example Southern Estonia wasn't under Danish rule while Northern Estonia wasn't under Polish rule. There's also the case of Saaremaa/Ösel Island (the largest island of Estonia) which was under Danish Kingdom much longer than any other part of Estonia.
@@carleryk Tallinn was never ruled by Poland though.
What does culturally protestant mean?
@@Mattis06 Religions have had major cultural influence on societies. Estonians were traditionally Protestant, so culturally quite distant from Russians who are traditionally Orthodox.
@@eksiarvamus protestanism only started in the 16th century how can it be traditional if it is only 500 years old and we are mostly not religious so its effects are gone from our society.
The Gulf Stream explains why Europe isn't that cold (overall) despite how up north it is. For example New York has an average temperature close to Paris' average temperature (the extremes are just a bit more extreme in New York, a bit hotter in summer and a bit colder in winter).
for people in Finland Estonia will always be our closes brother nation, but for the politicians and big business etc they always want sweden to be our closest brother
Yes, we people love Estonia and remember that Swedes are former oppressors.
30:45 Your reaction after seeing Stalin's portrait was priceless. You gave me the best laughs of my life! 😂
Greetings from Finland. 🇫🇮
You may be thinking of Cypress trees.
Greetings from my hometown Tallinn
I would imagine the domes you see in some Russian structures are inspired by Byzantine architecture. Kievan Rus was basically a vassal of Constantinople, whose churches are said to have inspired Vladimir the Great to introduce Orthodox Christianity to Rus.
You skirted around it but Estonia did not have good times under Soviet Russia.
Hello from Finland 🎉
21:21 Tallinn is older then Helsnki. First mention of history books was Tallinn 1154 year
Turku/Åbo was Finland's capital until the 1800s
@@henriikkak2091 only 5% of the city speak swedish, so why call it "åbo"? It's Turku for everyone in the city.
Yep! And Helsinki only really got a proper boost in the 1800s when the russians decided to move Finland's capital there, further away from Swedish influence.
@@henriikkak2091 Turku is port many centuries + now university city and science center too
@@jwkldkkqlldn Tllinn first name was Lindanise ..that name trhuly estonian languge. Tallinn name mind Taani linn = Denmark city . Lindanise is named by women name Linda. Other Tallinn names was Rewal and Goloban
Greating from Estonia.
Greating from Finland
Before Helsinki the capital was Turku. More medieval/historical than Hki
Hey! Check out the remake of the same video:) He made a new Estonian one😊 Best wishes from Tallinn:)!
Never apologize to the soviets apologists thinking you might offend someone.
Greetins from Estonia!
Exactly! Down with the tankies. Finnic people are united in this.
That what I was thinking as well. Greetings from Finland.
Saying that Finnish is not a Nordic language is like saying that Moroccan Berber is not a Mediterranean language because it is different from Italian, Greek and Spanish. Finnish is a Nordic language because Finland is a Nordic nation.
Exactly. Nordic is not even a linguistic term, it's more of a political alliance. Most languages within the Nordic countries are Scandinavian, but we also have Uralic languages (Finnic and Sámi languages) and Greenlandic. These are all Nordic languages because they are spoken within the Nordic countries.
@@Silveirias North Germanic and Finnic languages
Baltic sisters? I don't think finns want to be called baltic
think he ment baltic sea
Estonians aren't Balts either. They're Finnic. We are all at the Baltic Sea, though.
Finnic sisters would have been less confusing 🙂
Baltic in this context refers to the Baltic Sea because both Helsinki and Tallinn are on the shores of the Baltic Sea. Calling the citites Baltic sisters does not mean Finland is a Baltic country. But, the term Baltic states actually did originally refer to Finland as well, but Finland has been included in the Nordics instead post WW2.
Estonians themselves are also Finnic like Finns are (so not Baltic like Lithuanns and Latvians are), but they are geographically Baltic.
I'm Finnish and I take way more issue with being called Scandinavian than Baltic. :D
The Orthodox Church came to Russia from Greece, and so did the architects who built the first churches. Later, the local architects followed the same style. Btw, a similar thing happened with Turkey - when they conquered what became Turkey, they put the Greeks to design the mosques (the mosques in Arab countries follow a very different style). So - what can be associated with Oriental, has actually Greek roots.
Estonia and Latvia have pretty much of shared history, so despite of the completely different language, there are many similarities in culture.
I'd say that the original video is presented quite poorly. F.e. while Finland has "Swedish" past, the Estonian past is "German" (the Baltic German upper class succeeded to keep their dominant position under any regime nearly until the WWI). The Kadriorg Palace is not an example of the Russian architecture, the architect came from Italy (and so did a lot of architects designing in St. Petersburg or even Moscow as well, including the Kremlin itself). Due to the Soviet migration, the ethnic Russians are not a quarter, but a third of the population in Tallinn (and including the other Russified Soviets, 40%). The building showed as a Commie Bloc is renovated and except the shape looks quite different from the original. The suitcases in the museum do not symbolize not just those who fled the country, but even more those who were deported to Siberia or Kazakhstan. Etc.
Those tall, columnar trees that remind you of Gladiator are cyprus trees - 'cupressus sempervirens'. They scream 'Mediterranean' to me too 🙂
Churches are achitectural marvels. I'm not religious either but I love cathedrals, especially older ones. Just the thought that in the middle ages those were the highest human structures in the world, yet visually so detailed and intricate.
That was an interesting watch. I am an Estonian and have been watching your reaction videos for years.
But the video overemphasizes the Russian influence in Estonia. Some Westerners just seem to be obsessed with it and only concentrate on such aspects.
But if you think you are biased about the Soviets - heck, us Estonians are the most anti-Russian/Soviet people on the planet, so really don't worry about this "bias".
Sadly there are recent signs that the Golf Stream is possibly dying. If so, our climate will in future be like in Norther Siberia.
You may very well have European genes, you are how I would say not so much a typical American who knows about everything, but doesn't really know anything, and doesn't want to learn anything about other countries.. You are a nice person. Ok, there are 5.6 million people here in Finland and around 682,000 people live in the city of Helsinki and, more broadly, around 1,599,000 people live in the entire Helsinki region.
13:35 Yes, the big thing with Protestantism is about separate from means of power, but they themselves became means of power after a while.
Martin Luther, who started the Protestantism, didn't want to separate from the Catholics church, but his followers did want this.
17:00 Baltic sea froze usual until between Liepaja to Palanga in coast ..but whole sea to Gulf of Riga nd west side Gulf of Kalmarsund
Cypress is the name of the tree you remember seeing in the movie The Gladiator. Quite common in Italy.
Plenty of lakes,but those lakes have islands in them. So who knows we're the most islands😅
Finland and Estonia has always been democracy countries and people. Probably other Baltic countries as well. Nobody ever wanted to be part of Russia / soviet but only Finn's had a chance to fight back for their freedom in the winter war time. Finland and Estonia has always been part of west. And because Finland was under swedish rule over 600 years, we defenetly have always been part of west. But the influence of soviet shows in Helsinki because of the 100 year time that we had to be under Russian rule. But Helsinki is the only place in Finland where it shows. For example we don't have those Russian style onion church anywhere else in Finland. Or at least I have ever seen it.
And about Americans. Isn't your history mostly in Europe as well? So if you want to see old time "American buildings", you will have to travel in Europe. Make a DNA test to know which country of Europe is part of your family history. 😊
Tampereella ainakin oli yks ortodoksi kirkko
As much as we want to say we've always been part of the West, than is not true. The world has seen us as part of the west only since the 90s after the fall of the Soviet Union and since we joined the EU. We certainly have a western values and already before our independence there were efforts to be seen as part of the western world, though.
Very good video I enjoyed it
Hi Jibby
I visited Estonia in the years shortly after the end of the Soviet Union.
I saw fairy-tale houses often totally abandoned with their doors and windows all left open to the elements.!
I haven't been to Finland but their language is mutually comprehendable.
When I was in Hungary, I asked my Hungarian girlfriend if she could understand Estonian - she said no.
Finnish and Estonian are not mutually comprehensible. Take it from a native Finnish speaker. I can understand some Estonian, but not enough to, say, follow the news. Some South-Western dialect speakers can probably understand Estonian a little better than I, a South-Eastern dialect speaker can. Meänkieli, Karelian, and Ingrian are more or less mutually comprehensible to Finnish, but someone speaking a Western dialect will have an easier time with Meänkieli and someone speaking an Eastern dialect is more likely to understand Karelian and Ingrian.
Hungarian is pretty far removed from Estonian and Finnish. Finnish and Estonian are from the Finnic branch of Uralic languages and Hungarian is from the Ugric branch.
Awesome Work Bro, Thanks!!! 😎👍👍👍 Greetings from Helsinki, Finland🇫🇮🇺🇸🇫🇮🇺🇸
I love your commentary. I love how you discuss small things I would never notice.
Greetings from Finland!
Turku used to be Finland's capital under the Swedish rule. It is not known when it was founded, but it is first mentioned in 1229 by the Pope Gregory IX. Helsinki was originally founded as a competitor for Tallinn in 1550 and became the capital of the Grand Duchy of Finland in 1812 and then in 1917 the capital of the Republic of Finland.
Everything's relative. Around 1,247 million people live in the Helsinki metropolitan area. The regional capital of Northern Finland and the place of Santa's office in Finnish Lapland on the Arctic Circle, Rovaniemi, is around 820 km north from Helsinki. Relating to the US, Santa built his place of operations around The Roosevelt Cabin, which was built in 1950 when Eleanor Roosevelt's wanted to visit the Arctic Circle during her visit to Finland. A video: "Rooseveltin maja | Napapiirin ensimmäinen maja". Some other notable Finnish built cabins of possible interest include Queen's log cabin (1970) at Balmoral Estate and C. A. Nothnagle Log House (1643) in New Jersey.
There are different king of columnar trees, which suit specific use in parks and green areas. I think Swedish Columnar Aspen is one, which is commonly used in Finland. Maybe this will chance your opinion about trams: "A tram with a pub onboard? AMAZING FIND - Helsinki for our last day".
The Finnish Pavilion was the talk of the town in the 1900 Paris World's Fair. Finland was trying to establish itself as a nation among nations, so world probably didn't seem that far away: "Esa-Pekka Salonen on Sibelius & Finland’s Independence Movement". This was also the period of greater emigration of Finns to the US. E.g. the architect Eliel Saarinen, who designed The Helsinki Central Rail Station, was also about the make his mark in the US: "Tribune Tower: A Groundbreaking Competition", "The Cranbrook Academy of Art: A legacy of discovery - Imagine a Place" and "A Cranbrook Conversation: Eero Saarinen & the Cradle of American Modernism - Roundtable". Also: "AALTO - Official Trailer", "Interview with Kenneth Frampton on Alvar Aalto" and "Artek “A chair is not just a seat"".
Couple of videos about the Cold War era and the connection between Helsinki and Tallinn. It's said that the Finnish grocery store chain Kesko's K-Store TV commercials played a part in the Soviet Union's collapse and especially Väinö "Väiski" Purje and his meat counter in those commercials. Väiski become an idol of-a-sort for Soviet Estonians. The Soviet Estonian officials claimed that Väiski was a CIA agent and that the meat he displayed was made out of plastic: "Original Sokos Hotel Viru - check into the legend", "GoldSpinners Goldspinners trailer 720p mp4", "K-Kaupan mainos - Väiskin lihatiski " and "Icarus Films Disco and Atomic War - Trailer",
About the Baltic cruises history and the connection to Caribbean cruises. Some of the Caribbean cruise ships have been and are being build in Turku, the former capital of Finland: "Hyvää matkaa! - Silja Linen aikamatka 1957-2007", "The Cruise Industry Was Changed FOREVER by a $750 Million Dollar Ferry", "Icon of the Seas - Vesillelasku", "ICON OF THE SEAS | The World's BIGGEST cruise ship departing Meyer Turku shipyard 29.11.2023", "ICON OF THE SEAS | Royal Caribbean ship crossed the Great Belt Bridge in Denmark during snowfall" and "An Iconic Crossing: The Great Belt Bridge".
A relating peacetime naval disaster: "MS ESTONIA - Onboard video camera footage from 1994", "M/S Estonia Mayday Call With Subtitles, Tribute", "Räddningsinsatsen vid Estonias förlisning 1994" and "HD | Jan-Tore Thörnroos interview about M/S Estonia".
To bring things to the Cold War, Eleanor Roosevelt's visit and Santa: ""Soomepoiste laul" - Anthem of The Estonian Volunteers to Finland", "Kaleva - 14.06.1940", "The Forgotten Story of the Red Army's Insane 'Soviet DUNKIRK", "Lappland War fighting filmed in Tornio", in WW2", "Secret Of The Nazi U-Boat U-745", "Forest Brothers - anti-Soviet Guerilla War in the Baltics - THE COLD WAR" and "Forest Brothers - Fight for the Baltics".
And to current situation: "99stories: "Terve Ukraina" - Finland's 100 year old prophecy about Ukraine, by Eino Leino" and "Kekkonens Nightmare".
On that language subject. Even the languages spoken today don't entire follow the Nordic country borders: "Rock Art of the White Sea - Exhibition at Ulsan Museum ", "Who Built these Mysterious GIANT'S CHURCHES - short history documentary", "Bronze Age Burial Site of Sammallahdenmäki - UNESCO World Heritage Site", "The ski-going people - Early history" and "The Seal Hunters - the linguistic traces of ancient Scandinavia". Also: "Know your language: PU" and "Before Indo-European (The Indo-Uralic Hypothesis) Part ONE".
I strongly suggest Rick Steve's "Italy great hill towns" :D
Finnish and Estonian are both finno ugric languages. Almost all others languages in Europe are Indo European ( except Hungarian, Sami, Livonian, that are also finno-ugric, and Basque that is proto European)
Finland has 5.6 million inhabitants. 1.3 million inhabitants live in the Greater Helsinki area. Its area (1500 sq. km) is bit over 1/4 the size of Rhode Island (4000 sq. km).
Also, Finland has the third most islands in the world. Sweden has the most and Norway the second.
- Lutheranism does not form a single administrative and hierarchical entity (i.e. a single church) like Catholicism, but consists of separate regional or national churches. Lutheranism also does not have a single leader, unlike Catholicism, whose supreme spiritual leader is the Pope.
- According to Lutheranism, man gets salvation by grace and faith, without man's own merits. Catholicism also emphasizes the influence of a person's own actions or morals on salvation.
- Lutheranism emphasizes the individual's personal faith and direct and immediate relationship with God, while Catholicism emphasizes the role of the church (ie clergy and saints) as mediator between the individual and God.
- Churches also have a different number of sacraments, i.e. holy ordinances: Catholicism has seven (baptism, communion, confirmation or myrrh anointing, penance or the sacrament of penance, consecration to marriage, priesthood and anointing of the sick) and Lutheranism has two (baptism and communion).
- Unlike their Catholic brethren, Lutheran priests can be married and do not have to take a vow of celibacy.
- Unlike the Catholic Church, some Lutheran churches have also opened the priesthood to women.
gulf stream warms most of Europe. On another hand, Yagutsk, some call it the coldest city, is only 62N, and it is so cold mostly cause of position towards mountains and being away from large bodies of water, not cause it is way up north.
gulf stream warms most of Europe. On another hand, Yagutsk, some call it the coldest city, is only 62N, and it is so cold mostly cause of position towards mountains and being away from large bodies of water, not cause it is way up north.
Former President of Finland used to go have a coffee at the market square, because the Presidents Office/Castle is next to the market. He even took the French President with him to have coffee
I think it's really great you took interest in and checked to see the difference in altitude. 😊
I bet it gives perspective for sure! 😄 👍🏻
Protestants believed that the Church had become corrupt mainly criticizing the selling of indulgences (payments for forgiveness of sins) and the idea that salvation could be earned through works rather than faith alone. This led to a split from the Catholic Church, forming new Christian denominations that focused on individual faith, reading the Bible in one's own language, and rejecting the central authority of the Pope.
Most islands: 1.Sweden, 2.Norway, 3.Finland.
But the largest Archipelago Sea is in Finland,it comprise island on Turku and Åland,most largest archipellago r in Indonesia,but it has less island than finlands archipellago sea,just saying,lol
@@Fincoolman68 Kyllä mä sen tiedän.
@@LTS79 väittikö joku että et tietäisi,toi kommentti oli vain huomio kommenttiisi
@@LTS79 riippune laskentatavasta,suomi on toisena saarien määrässä ruottin jälkeen,ja se useimmissa tilastoissa faktana pidetty asia
@@Fincoolman68 Se että onko Suomi 2. vai 3. riippuu siitä että minkä kokoiset läntit lasketaan saariksi. Toi ei kyllä pidä paikkaansa että Suomi olis useimpien tilastojen mukaan 2. ja sitä pidettäisiin faktana. Kyllä Norjassa on enemmän useimpien tilastojen mukaan ja se on fakta.
You need to travel man. Just do it now when you are young and hungry for knowledge. Yes the money is always a problem but just do it.
Oslo is literally in Alaska lol
Great reaction!
01:06 Yes US Alaska capital Juneau is that same north latitute then in Estonia Paide and Ancornche , Alaska is same north latitute then in Finland ... Tampere.
My buddy went on a fishing trip in Anchorage, Alaska. He's from Kuusamo, Finland. He called it a trip south 😊
Looool what are those snowy mountains.... We don't have mountains in Finland or in Estonia. Both countries are very flat...
I have no idea how similar estonian and finnish is in writing, but they do sound very similar as a non-speaker, they also have some cultural similiarities.... Also speaking of the roads - doesn't the US have an extensive railroad network? Here in the nordic countries perhaps we invested more town designs to incorporate roads instead - maybe as we are quite sparsely populated and tracks makes less sense for us? I have no idea :)
A lot of the basic vocabulary is almost identical since they date back to when they were the same language they've diverged a lot since then so mutual intelligebility is fairly low
Finnish and Estonian are believed to be as close to each other as Spanish and Italian, so not fully mutually intelligible but basics in language are virtually the same (for example numbers, most animal names, words about nature). It's also the easiest language to learn for both.
I think Greece has the most islands.
Wrong. we have a shitload of them up here between sweden and finland.
انا اختك اليمنيه واعتبرني اختك والله ماتكلمت الا من جوع ومن ضيق الحال انا وكامل اسرتي تشردنا من بيوتنا بَسَبَبَ الَحَرَبَ نَحَنَ فَيَ حَالَهَ لَايَعَلَمَ بَهَا الَا الَلَهَ حَسَبَنَا الَلَهَ وًّنَعَمَ الَوكيَلَ فَيَ مَنَ اوًّصَلَنَا الَى هَاذا الَحَالَ وًّالَلَهَ الَعَظَيَمَ مَا كتَبَتَ هَذا الَمَنَاشَدَهَ غَيَرَ مَنَ الَضَيَقَ وّالَفَقَر يَاعَالَمَ حَسَوّا فَيَنَا ارَجَوّكمَ وّالَلَهَ الَعَظَيَمَ رَبَ الَعَرَشَ الَعَظَيَمَ انَه الَاكلَ مَا فَيَ عَنَدَيَ بَالَبَيَتَ وًّالَلَهَ يَا اخَوّانَيَ انَهَ اخَوًّنَيَ بَقَعَدَوًّ بَالَيَوًّمَيَنَ مَافَى اكلَ وًّالَلَهَ وًّضَعَنَا كثَيَرَ صَعَبَ نَحَنَ 4 نَفَرَ دَاخَلَ الَبَيَتَ وًّابَيَ مَتَوًّفَيَ وًّلَا يَوًّجَدَ مَنَ يَعَوًّلَ عَلَيَنَا وًّسَاكنَيَنَ فَيَ بَيَتَ اجَارَ لَانَسَتَطَيَعَ دَفَعَ الَاجَارَ الَلَيَ ''''''''''''''''''''''''''''''''''''''''''''''''''''''''''''''''''''''''''''''''''''''''''''''''''''''''''''''''''''''''''''''''''''''''''''''''''''''''' اخي اول كلامي انا اقسم بالله على كتاب الله اني لااكذب عليك ولا انصب ولا احتال اني بنت يمنيه نازحين انا واسرتي بيننا ایت الشهرب 20 الف يمني والان علينا 60 الف حق 3 شهور وصاحب البيت من الناس الي ماترحم والله يا اخي انه يجي كل يوم يبهدلنا ويتكلم علينا ويريد من البيت للشارع لانناماقدرنا ندفعله الأجار شافونا الجيران نبكي ورجعو تكلمو الجيران ومهلنالاخره الأسبوع معادفعنا له حلف يمين بالله هذا بيخرجنا إلى الشارع رحمه واحنا. بلادنا بسبب هذا الحرب ولانجد قوت يومنا وعايشين اناوامي واخوتي سفار والدنا متوفي الله يرحمه ومامعنا أحد في هذا الدنيا جاانبنا في هذه الظروف القاسيه اخوتي الصغار خرجو للشارع وشافو الجيران ياكلو واوقفو عند بابهم لجل يعطوهم ولو كسره خبز والله الذي له ملك السموات والارض انهم غلفو الباب وطردوهم ورجعو یبکو ایموتو من الجوع ما احد رحمهم وعطلة ردها لقمت عیش والان لوما احدنا ساعدنا في إيكيلو دقيق اقسم بالله انموت من الجوع فيا اخي انا دخيله على الله ثم عليك واريد منك المساعده لوجه الله انشدك بالله تحب الخير واتساعدني ولو ب 500 ريال يمني مع تراسلي واتساب على هذا الرقم 00967713342392 وتطلب اسم بطاقتي وترسلي ولاتتاخر وايعوضك الله بكل خير اخواني سغار شوف كيف حالتهم وساعدنا وأنقذنا قبل أن يطردونا في الشارع تتبهدل أو نموت من الجوع وانا واسرتي نسالك بالله لولك مقدره على مساعد لاتتاخر علينا وجزاك الله خير..÷~^^¢^¢¢^¢^™°
Finnish and Hungarian languages are similar..
Weeell. I don't really agree. There are certain aspects that are similar, but the languages as a whole aren't similar at all. Finnish and Estonian are much more similar, and even they aren't THAT similar. Karelian however, is the language most similar to Finnish
They're from the same family, but more distant.
It's a bit like English and Lithuanian - for comparison.
not at all
Only in the sense that they belong to the same language group. They're actually in the far ends of that group. So you could also say that English and Sanskrit are similar.
@@RyanRyzzo That's right, although I'd say that they're even further. Hungarian language's closest linguistic relatives are located behind the Ural mountains. Finnish has approximately 30 relatives in Europe, west of the Ural mountains.