While not tip jars, you may still see jars filled with change at counters of many shops and restaurants; the change typically gets donated to charitable organisations.
Tip jars are typical for hair dressers. That's because there are usually a number of people taking care of your hair, so instead of having to figure out who did what you tip in the jar and it will later be split up between all the people working in the barber shop.
I worked at McD, not a franchise restaurant but one run by corporate itself. We were not allowed to accept tip (most people tried to tip less than 10ct, it wouldn't have added up to anything really.) Any tips were supposed to go into the charity boxes, which were chained to the cash register and could only be emptied by someone from the charity iirc.
@@GermanEngineer84 if you work for minimum wage ( or even slightly above) even 10 ct are a lot of work you need to do. You should calculate it yourself. How much you work for 1 cent.
The original book by Adolph Freiherr Knigge is "Über den Umgang mit Menschen" and is widely misunderstood as a rulebook for table manners and how to tip in expensive restaurants without embarrassing oneself, very much the way you referenced the book. I highly recommend you to read the original book, since it is about much more than table manners. It is about moral, responsibility and how to achieve a pleasant living together in a diverse society. It includes chapters on the master-servant relation, on friendship, on the relation with oneself and on how to be respectful to domestic animals and pets. Knigge was by the way a Freemason and a leading member of the Order of the Illuminati!! I think you could make a very interesting video about Knigge and his heritage in German culture and society.
Haven't read it yet but our teacher in driving school once spent part of a lesson reading from it because driving is one of those areas that can benefit from proper human interaction.
I think that European tipping culture is much less about percents, and much more about kindness and convenience. If your bill is over 10€ just round it up to euros, so they don't have to bother with the change, if it's a more expensive one, you might want to round up to the next euro (21,55€ -> 23€) or even up to the round number, if you are feeling generous. And don't worry if this makes a tip of only a few cents sometimes - it is generally understood that sometimes you get more and sometimes less. It's really only when a bill starts to reach the vicinity of 100€ (so, like from 80€ up) that you might be expected to tip extra, rather than just rounding up the bill. In such a situation, don't bother with percents, just tip whichever banknote seems appropriate to you - but it has to be a banknote; fiddling with change will make you look cheap. Same logic if you want to tip as a token of special appreciation, when someone had gone above and beyond.
When I was a kid, every new year my parents would attach a 10 marks bill to the trash can in order to tip the garbage collectors. Apparently many people in our area did this, and the public waste management acutally asked people to stop.
yeah, I remember it by myself. Bygone days ... this was usual, before garbage collectors were pad at a solid state and were recruited amongst the auxiliaries. Now it's a well-educated job with a high formal instruction about 2 or 3 years. These guys and girls are well educated specialists. I had had an internship at our local public environment cleaners. I saw the payroll ... by the way, even without risk allowances the payment is highand never being paid to non-educated.
@@c.primavera9690 I guess it is. My mother kind of does this as well. She doesn't tip them though, but prepares little presents instead. A bar of chocolate, a small schnapps, something like that.
Tipping a hairdresser is actually halfway between european and american standards, for the very same reasons. They are one of the worst paid professions, and thus your tip might make the difference for them. Away from that, 10% rounded to the next convenient full euro is the norm in my experience. Rounding up or down tends to depend on the size of the bill, the smaller the bill, the more you tend to round up, netting 1-2€ as the most common tip.
That is not the case in Italy where most hairdressers work in the shop they own, alone or with a partner. You might want to discreetly tip the apprentice though. Usually there is one. In the last few years, though, big shops have opened with lousily paid staff. That is unfortunate.
When i came to Germany, i was told that its alright to simply round up to the next €. However - that does sometimes feel a bit cheap when you have to pay like 9.90€ - hence giving only 10 c tip. In that case i tend to round up to the next euro + another euro. Tipping is more a convenience thing than a reward as such - or so i was told. It allows the waiter to give you easier change rather than counting small coins. But i guess it depends on the situation and how rich you are. I guess for outstanding service beyond whats expected - one might expect a more generous tip.
Yes, a ten-cent tip would be regarded as a bit insulting. I once had a restaurant bill come to exactly €20, which made tipping a bit more of a pain than it usually is.
Rounding up to the next EUR is definitely not enough IMO. Sticking at 5% to 10% is the norm. But yeah convenience is a big part too, so if you have to pay 24EUR, a 1EUR tip to 25 would be more acceptable, than a 1 EUR tip from 23 to 24EUR (in this case you should definitely give at least 2EUR). It comes down to personal preference, but yes if you tip 10c you're definitely doing something wrong.
Or you're doing something right, if your intent is to tell the person in question that you definitely aren't satisfied. But obviously, if you are often in that situation, consider if the fault lies in you - perhaps you have unrealistic expectations, or you come across as rather unfriendly, or your selection of where to get service could use some improvement.
yeah I'd say rounding up to the next Euro works when you have a very small bill, for example a coffee for 2,60 or something like that, then I'd stay with 3€ total. For 2,90 I'd probably go up to 3,50 though. For 9,90 I'd probably give 10,50 or 11 depending on how good the service was. My parents would usually tip our package delivery person something around Christmas each year. Some time in December they would hand them an envelope with 10€ or something. Idk if that was just them or if this is a common thing, though. We've always had really friendly and reliable delivery people so that was totally earned as well!
I have been living in Germany all my life now, specifically in NRW, and my experience is, that you don't really think in percent with this. it's more common to just round up. You have to pay 38.15€, so you'll pay 40, for example. When you have bad luck with the numbers, for example 38.99€, you'll add a bit more instead of rounding up, for example make it 42. When you are at real luxury restaurants, the tip could go up, but in general, I haven't experienced tips to be any percentage, but a fixed amount around 2-3€ that rounds up the amount you pay to some nice number.
The reason why tipping must be "personal" and direct is that tips are tax-free because they count as a "personal gift" that has nothing to do with a received service. That means, it does not count as taxable money if gifted. If the circumstances indicate that the money was received for a service, it becomes taxable, i.e. VAT and possibly income tax, too. One example: The meal did cost 23 €. You pay 25 € and claim the whole cheque as a business expense. The accountant then uses the 23 € as a VAT-return taxable deduction and the 2 € tip as a seperate expense without any VAT attached to it. On the receiving end, the waiter gets paid his/her wage and no one except the waiter will ever know if or how much was tipped. That explains for example why a (correct) receit has a blank field for a tip that does not count into the VAT calculation.
A rule I've found quite useful as a student in Germany when tipping at Bars/Cafés and similar settings is to round up and add one. If the result of that is very close to a round number and especially if you're paying for everyone at the table, maybe go to that.
I don't like the tipping system at all. Why I should give tips to waiters in restaurants or to hairdressers or to taxidrivers, but not my green grocer or the lady at the cashier in the supermarket or my bus driver? They may be earn aboyt the same...
tipping is only common in places wich long time run without a cash register (electronic cash register); now there are two form of tipping: with the bill => the tipp went to the boss (and go into the register) and he'll split it put it personaly in the hand of one person => went to this person; but he had to say it the boss (he had to pay taxes on the tipps)
you could give them tips too, but you normally pay for their politeness and that they served you with a smile. if your bus driver smiles at you or the cashirer you can tip them too why not
I quite agree. Here in the UK, I don't tip at all in a carvery-style restaurant (where you queue up for you food and self serve the vegetables, then carry it back to your tabler - I don't tip barbers; not after considering how much they charge for 15 minutes - likewise taxi drivers - I do tip in a restaurant with table service; but _only_ if I feel the level of service merits it (slow service=no tip; don't offer coffee=no tip; get the order wrong=no tip). And trust me: even in the USA where tipping is definitely expected, poor serve would result in _no_ tip...or maybe to make my dissatisfaction clear, a solitary nickel; I wouldn't want the waiter to think I'd just forgotten!
As a waiter I'd say 10% if service was great 5% if service was good/okay no tip if service was really bad, but I'd tell the waiter what was wrong exactly
Where I work, tip is divided by person and hour. Therefor, everybody does his best to make the clients happy. Unlike in the U.S. this is quite normal in germany. If you're not sure who is responsible for mistakes, just tell the waiter what's wrong anyways. It's his job to make it right. If he failed and you are still unsatisfied, tell him and don't tip. But I think it's rude and unfair not to tip when you had service and told them that everything was fine.
I’ve seen German taxi drivers try diligently to give back every bit of change and seem puzzled by a 10% tip as if it had just been invented. A Vienna taxi driver once gave us a long rant that tourists do not tip him enough and he’d starve on the meter fee and where do the tourists think they are, Germany still?
Also, if you are in a hotel and leave, it is standard to leave some money behind (e.g. on the table where they can see it) for the service personnel cleaning the hotel rooms every day. Something like 10 Euros per week you stay at a standard hotel, more if you stay in a 5 star suite of course.
Probably not the norm in really cheap hotels, but you should do it in better hotels. Even "Knigge experts" recommend it (Reinigungspersonal): www.travelbook.de/service/trinkgeld-im-hotel-knigge-fuer-verschiedene-urlaubslaender-514631.html "Hierzulande gehört das Trinkgeld für die Reinigung des Zimmers oder den Room Service prinzipiell zum guten Ton."
Even having experienced a vast number of hotels of all variations, I cannot honestly say that I have ever known anyone here in Germany to do this. I absolutely do see the reasoning behind doing so, but it is definitely not "standard".
Never heard about that custom either, but maybe our opinions of "really cheap hotels" differ here. Again, with the wages the cleaning staff probably gets, a good idea, but unknown to me until two minutes ago.
Great video and all true. Whilst in Germany, tipping is seems to be the norm in restaurants, the hotels industry and taxis. I also found you tip toilet attendants of public toilets, usually this was about 50 Euro cents or your loose change.
I have a friend who is a very generous tipper. He gives 5€ for each pizza delivery and more in restaurants. But he never paid for a song, movie (sans cinema) or video game in his life. And he is consuming A LOT of media. He even stated that media just is something you are not supposed to pay for.
I personally try to tip between 10 and 20 percent at restaurants and hairdressers. These jobs are very badly paid and I really like being served. So I pay a decent tip if the service is friendly and made me feeling comfortable. I know, that's more than usual in Germany.
Thanks for that advice on tipping! I was wondering how it worked. Have just moved from the UK to Austria and it seems to be similar here for restaurants.
Andrew saying: "Knigge is strangely silent on that other industry that likes tips..." Me thinking: "Prostitution." Andrew saying: "Hairdressing." Me thinking: "D'oh!"
I usually just round to the nearest $5. I also tip even if self service areas if my children have caused an issue. Having young 3 kinder can be challenge for all involved.
I can’t personally relate to this, really... When I tip (in Germany), I (as a German) don’t think in percentages. If the bill is €20,30, I’d just tell the waiter or waitress to make it €22 or €23. It might often be more of a convenience thing
Exactly, never new anyone in Europe that tipped based on percentage.... I am sure there are lots who do it but I don't know anyone. Usually people just give something extra, might be one euro might be 5 maybe be 10 it is up to them and depends on the quality of the service, not so much on how much we are paying.
@@holger_p They will not ask questions but be glad that you tipped at all because it isn't the norm to do so. You are thinking in American terms where some will be visibly upset that you didn't tip a certain amount. In Europe it is mostly a convenience thing that you do if you don't want small change back etc.
@@Mulmgott how did you examine ' the norm'. Did you do a survey? If every of 4 guests pay separatly an everybody tips, then why the tip should be smaller if one pays for all ? Or why not give more on a 3 course menu, than on a single drink ? There is a loose relation from the bill to the tip, also in germany. I would be ashamed to give 1€ on an 150€ bill.
When you say "it is uncommon to tip at take-out restaurants" I wondered: is this common in other countries? Because in all my travels I never did this (and never read I should have), and am now a little concerned whether I urinated some people off by that.
You might have mentioned the tip for a pizza-boy. From my point of view it should be at least 5% but I often give 10 to 15%, depending on the weather outside ;-)
I lived in the Netherlands for 21 years and currently living for 1 year in Germany, I have never ever tipped in my life, not because I am stingy but because its really not a thing here, its not a common practice at all, plus I am anyway of the opinion that why would I give you extra money, I payed for what I came for. Also most of the time the person I would tip in the situation doesn't get to keep it anyway, and you are getting payed already for what you do anyway. If id ever go to America I wouldn't tip either purely out of principle, I do not want to support the terrible wage situation over there by tipping, nor is it really my problem, its theirs, but just give your staff a proper pay, done, its ridiculous that a country like the US allows people to have jobs where they have to beg for money from the already paying customers. Since id only be a tourist anyway I wouldn't fear of not tipping in the US, I won't be coming back anyway. Other countries where the standard of wages are lower there I defiantly tip if the service was good, because why not, there I understand that its nice to give something extra to the person. If the service was bad id only tip purely out of convenience for me, if you can call that tipping at least, so I don't get a bunch of coins back that I don't want.
It is a bit awkward with smallish sums (this was better with Marks). Tipping 1.10 is fairly generous with a bill of 9.90, roughly standard with a bill around 20 EUR and cheapskate with a bill of 40 EUR. So with small bills I would sometimes not tip at all, especially if there was no real service involved (say, a drink at a bars vs. a multi-course meal of several hours.) Generally, around/at least 5% is a pretty good rule of thumb in restaurants. It is also important that "paying separately" is usually not frowned upon in Germany (as it is in southern and, I think, Eastern Europe).
When splitting the bill in Belgium, it's not uncommon to be asked to pay at the cashier, and not at the waiter, as they often can't split the ticket. You'll have to trust everyone pays their dues when you come last ;)
This might be out of date, but I was taught that tipping the Inhaber/in in a Kneipe is bad form. On closer examination, I see that grumpf grumpf has said the same thing in German.
I got a tattoo in Wiesbaden a week and a half ago. She charged me 280 and I gave her 310, and she tried to tell me it was too much. I insisted, as she just gave me a permanent piece of art on my leg. It was between ten and eleven percent, and while I know that's a fair tip here I still felt like I was being cheap by my Canadian-American standards.
I always give tips to domino's pizza delivery guys and started to notice that they are waiting for the tip to leave ... so I tip them only when they are in time for the delivery
Comment on an old video, I know. Thanks for the tip about “stimmt so”. In your example, would you say “Macht es 22€” or is there a better way? Thanks, I’m enjoying your channel.
the correct phrase is "Machen Sie 22 draus." ( _Machen Sie_ is the imperative while using formal addressing with _Sie_ ) or you just say the number while handing over the cash
You know the Knigge, I am impressed! I read it once, probably 40 years ago and remember nothing. Maybe I should refresh... BTW, do Brits have something similar to the Knigge?
Wenn man das Geld nicht hat (aus verschiedenen Gründen...), ok. Aber wenn ich zufrieden mit der Bedienung war, zahle ich immer Trinkgeld. Es nicht zu tun ist einfach... unterste Schublade!
Nobody will force you to, but not tipping at all means that you think you received unacceptable service. So if that was not the case this is extremely offensive.
well then you have obviously never worked in the service industry. since becoming a waitress i tip much more simply because i know how shitty those jobs can be
Well I live in Germany and i don't really either, only in resteraunts basically, and I haven't gotten any negative feedback on that, so it's not that important as long as you are not going to luxury stuff I suppose
I have the feeling that tipping culture is receding. It used to be quite normal to tip if you got pizza delivery etc., but friends working in that line of business tell me that less and less people tip. We now have a minimum wage here, a rather new thing for Germany, and I think it is cause of people tipping less because they feel the delivery people now get proper wages so tipping isn't necessary anymore. Doesn't stop me from tipping roughly 10% except when something wasn't right with the food. Not tipping in a restaurant is more common too, I think it's rude and only appropriate if the waiter was very slow, rude or otherwise below standard.
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It's nice to hear that people can easily afford to tip, and generously too. I did tip but can hardly (with a good conscience) afford to eat out anymore now, and when I do/did, I often didn't tip.
I'm British and live in the UK mostly, but think 10% average provided service is decent is about right, rarely more and only much less if the service is truly awful - occasionally I will give nothing, but then will have made it clear (politely) why. In Spain I give less, because that seems to be what Spaniards do, although I probably still give more than them, but the amounts are negligible to me so I don't think about it very much. Only in places like Japan or Thailand do I give very little or nothing, because there it genuinely seems to cause offence. In the US I suspect I'm regarded as a "cheapskate" because I don't automatically give 15-25%, although as prices are generally remarkably cheap (except in high-end places) this probably needs re-assessment by me. Sensible minimum wages, paying service staff decently, and making it clear whether service is included or not, would all help. On balance I'd rather give a little more than is generally expected, specially when I know I will return to a place again and again, wherever I am (high-end New York US excepted ;) ), because I want good service and think it should be rewarded. Also it's not just customer-contact staff, e.g. waiters, who make for decent services, other staff (back-office, kitchen-staff, etc) need to be incentivised too. PS/ If I stay in an hotel for more than one night & certainly two or three, it is always good manners I think to leave a little for the room-service people (min 10Euros,£,$) and in some poorer countries/places a little extra such as some expensive soap or other to them 'luxury' item; even in wealthy countries in Europe/other advanced countries, room service people are usually absymally paid.
Ok, thats tipping in good old Germany. But what does a German to know about tipping in other Countries where tipping is more common or follow other rules like here?
usually you read travel guides about the country you are going to. Tipping culture is one of the central things every travel guide will definitely tell you about.
I usually tipp more than 10% in a restaurant. Normaly 10% is like 1 or 2 euros. What is a waiter supposed to do with 2 Euros? So I usually tipp like 3 -5 Euros, wich is way more than 10%. But it feels kinda cheap to just tipp 1 Euro...
You actually apologise in your video to the waitress for giving her a generous tip??? You may have lived in Germany a long time but you are clearly still English.
Oh my, now I really do wanna leave a few bucks. I've seen youtubers use ko-fi as a tipping service that's less of a commitment than patreon. dunno how it works, though.
Oh man. To be honest, this just gave me a guilty conscience. Because the only occasions I've ever given tips have been in restaurants or food delivery. I have never thought of it when getting a ride by a cab or visiting the hairdresser
Ein gutes Trinkgeld gibt es nur für guten Service. Mieser Service = mieses Trinkgeld oder garnix. Chef/in bekommt gar kein Trinkgeld, da ist guter Service sowieso Pflicht.
AFAIK it should be possible to use Patreon without a credit card. You could use a Visa debit card for example, or a PayPal account with a bank account as funding source.
A german friend of a friend said he is able to tax deduct the tips he gives at restaurants. Is this possible? (Thanks for the videos, kind regards from Stuttgart)
Tips are for convenience. Theres really no point in demanding to get back the 4.73€ you paid extra like what the fuck are ya gonna do with all that change? cant buy shit with the copper, and noone brings it all to a bank anyway so why bother its more convenient for everyone to just round it so something reasonable
If you have ordered a Pizza home, please give the delivery boy arount 2 euros. It doesn't hut you and that deliverer usually gets paid just enough to cover his own costs bringing you the pizza.
omg, I hate when people don't tip at all. people who work at restaurants etc on shitty hours when everybody else is having a good time earning only minimum wage which is 9€ pre-tax...
I was VERY popular in German restaurants after returning from a four year stay in the US... ;)
While not tip jars, you may still see jars filled with change at counters of many shops and restaurants; the change typically gets donated to charitable organisations.
Tip jars are typical for hair dressers. That's because there are usually a number of people taking care of your hair, so instead of having to figure out who did what you tip in the jar and it will later be split up between all the people working in the barber shop.
h4tchery i've seen those in various stores and shops here in Denmark too.
I worked at McD, not a franchise restaurant but one run by corporate itself. We were not allowed to accept tip (most people tried to tip less than 10ct, it wouldn't have added up to anything really.) Any tips were supposed to go into the charity boxes, which were chained to the cash register and could only be emptied by someone from the charity iirc.
we do have a tip jar
@@GermanEngineer84 if you work for minimum wage ( or even slightly above) even 10 ct are a lot of work you need to do.
You should calculate it yourself.
How much you work for 1 cent.
The original book by Adolph Freiherr Knigge is "Über den Umgang mit Menschen" and is widely misunderstood as a rulebook for table manners and how to tip in expensive restaurants without embarrassing oneself, very much the way you referenced the book. I highly recommend you to read the original book, since it is about much more than table manners. It is about moral, responsibility and how to achieve a pleasant living together in a diverse society. It includes chapters on the master-servant relation, on friendship, on the relation with oneself and on how to be respectful to domestic animals and pets.
Knigge was by the way a Freemason and a leading member of the Order of the Illuminati!! I think you could make a very interesting video about Knigge and his heritage in German culture and society.
Haven't read it yet but our teacher in driving school once spent part of a lesson reading from it because driving is one of those areas that can benefit from proper human interaction.
@@tuschman168 Oh yes, there is a chapter about driving... well driving horse-drawn carriages.
Hate the Tipping Culture . Its the Employers responsibility to pay the Employees well enough .
I think that European tipping culture is much less about percents, and much more about kindness and convenience. If your bill is over 10€ just round it up to euros, so they don't have to bother with the change, if it's a more expensive one, you might want to round up to the next euro (21,55€ -> 23€) or even up to the round number, if you are feeling generous. And don't worry if this makes a tip of only a few cents sometimes - it is generally understood that sometimes you get more and sometimes less. It's really only when a bill starts to reach the vicinity of 100€ (so, like from 80€ up) that you might be expected to tip extra, rather than just rounding up the bill. In such a situation, don't bother with percents, just tip whichever banknote seems appropriate to you - but it has to be a banknote; fiddling with change will make you look cheap. Same logic if you want to tip as a token of special appreciation, when someone had gone above and beyond.
When I was a kid, every new year my parents would attach a 10 marks bill to the trash can in order to tip the garbage collectors. Apparently many people in our area did this, and the public waste management acutally asked people to stop.
yeah, I remember it by myself. Bygone days ... this was usual, before garbage collectors were pad at a solid state and were recruited amongst the auxiliaries. Now it's a well-educated job with a high formal instruction about 2 or 3 years.
These guys and girls are well educated specialists.
I had had an internship at our local public environment cleaners. I saw the payroll ... by the way, even without risk allowances the payment is highand never being paid to non-educated.
metalpit1000 well educated carbage collectors??
would be new for me too, and i worked in a recyclingfactory.
We still tip our "newspaper-boy" on xmas and the garbage collectors at new year.
Maybe it's a country side habit.
@@c.primavera9690 I guess it is. My mother kind of does this as well. She doesn't tip them though, but prepares little presents instead. A bar of chocolate, a small schnapps, something like that.
3:48 For a moment there I was thinking this was going to be about that OTHER other service industry.
Tipping a hairdresser is actually halfway between european and american standards, for the very same reasons. They are one of the worst paid professions, and thus your tip might make the difference for them.
Away from that, 10% rounded to the next convenient full euro is the norm in my experience. Rounding up or down tends to depend on the size of the bill, the smaller the bill, the more you tend to round up, netting 1-2€ as the most common tip.
Bastian Bux Everybody on Mindestlohn should get tipped... so half of Germany...
That is not the case in Italy where most hairdressers work in the shop they own, alone or with a partner.
You might want to discreetly tip the apprentice though. Usually there is one.
In the last few years, though, big shops have opened with lousily paid staff. That is unfortunate.
When i came to Germany, i was told that its alright to simply round up to the next €. However - that does sometimes feel a bit cheap when you have to pay like 9.90€ - hence giving only 10 c tip. In that case i tend to round up to the next euro + another euro.
Tipping is more a convenience thing than a reward as such - or so i was told. It allows the waiter to give you easier change rather than counting small coins. But i guess it depends on the situation and how rich you are. I guess for outstanding service beyond whats expected - one might expect a more generous tip.
Yes, a ten-cent tip would be regarded as a bit insulting. I once had a restaurant bill come to exactly €20, which made tipping a bit more of a pain than it usually is.
Rounding up to the next EUR is definitely not enough IMO. Sticking at 5% to 10% is the norm. But yeah convenience is a big part too, so if you have to pay 24EUR, a 1EUR tip to 25 would be more acceptable, than a 1 EUR tip from 23 to 24EUR (in this case you should definitely give at least 2EUR). It comes down to personal preference, but yes if you tip 10c you're definitely doing something wrong.
Or you're doing something right, if your intent is to tell the person in question that you definitely aren't satisfied.
But obviously, if you are often in that situation, consider if the fault lies in you - perhaps you have unrealistic expectations, or you come across as rather unfriendly, or your selection of where to get service could use some improvement.
yeah I'd say rounding up to the next Euro works when you have a very small bill, for example a coffee for 2,60 or something like that, then I'd stay with 3€ total. For 2,90 I'd probably go up to 3,50 though. For 9,90 I'd probably give 10,50 or 11 depending on how good the service was.
My parents would usually tip our package delivery person something around Christmas each year. Some time in December they would hand them an envelope with 10€ or something. Idk if that was just them or if this is a common thing, though. We've always had really friendly and reliable delivery people so that was totally earned as well!
You definitly count as greedy if you do not tip if youhad a drink for like 2,30, give 2,50 and want 0,20 back
I have been living in Germany all my life now, specifically in NRW, and my experience is, that you don't really think in percent with this. it's more common to just round up. You have to pay 38.15€, so you'll pay 40, for example. When you have bad luck with the numbers, for example 38.99€, you'll add a bit more instead of rounding up, for example make it 42. When you are at real luxury restaurants, the tip could go up, but in general, I haven't experienced tips to be any percentage, but a fixed amount around 2-3€ that rounds up the amount you pay to some nice number.
I do the 5 to 10 percent when I have a large bill after a long evening. But usually, yeah, simply rounding up works well.
I know this an older video but in my research of tipping in Germany I came across this video :D A lot of information!!
The reason why tipping must be "personal" and direct is that tips are tax-free because they count as a "personal gift" that has nothing to do with a received service. That means, it does not count as taxable money if gifted. If the circumstances indicate that the money was received for a service, it becomes taxable, i.e. VAT and possibly income tax, too.
One example: The meal did cost 23 €. You pay 25 € and claim the whole cheque as a business expense. The accountant then uses the 23 € as a VAT-return taxable deduction and the 2 € tip as a seperate expense without any VAT attached to it. On the receiving end, the waiter gets paid his/her wage and no one except the waiter will ever know if or how much was tipped. That explains for example why a (correct) receit has a blank field for a tip that does not count into the VAT calculation.
A rule I've found quite useful as a student in Germany when tipping at Bars/Cafés and similar settings is to round up and add one. If the result of that is very close to a round number and especially if you're paying for everyone at the table, maybe go to that.
I don't like the tipping system at all. Why I should give tips to waiters in restaurants or to hairdressers or to taxidrivers, but not my green grocer or the lady at the cashier in the supermarket or my bus driver? They may be earn aboyt the same...
tipping is only common in places wich long time run without a cash register (electronic cash register); now there are two form of tipping: with the bill => the tipp went to the boss (and go into the register) and he'll split it
put it personaly in the hand of one person => went to this person; but he had to say it the boss (he had to pay taxes on the tipps)
you could give them tips too, but you normally pay for their politeness and that they served you with a smile. if your bus driver smiles at you or the cashirer you can tip them too why not
I quite agree. Here in the UK, I don't tip at all in a carvery-style restaurant (where you queue up for you food and self serve the vegetables, then carry it back to your tabler - I don't tip barbers; not after considering how much they charge for 15 minutes - likewise taxi drivers - I do tip in a restaurant with table service; but _only_ if I feel the level of service merits it (slow service=no tip; don't offer coffee=no tip; get the order wrong=no tip).
And trust me: even in the USA where tipping is definitely expected, poor serve would result in _no_ tip...or maybe to make my dissatisfaction clear, a solitary nickel; I wouldn't want the waiter to think I'd just forgotten!
My taxi ride was so expensive there was no way he was getting a tip. I honestly thought they were ripping me off.
As a waiter I'd say
10% if service was great
5% if service was good/okay
no tip if service was really bad, but I'd tell the waiter what was wrong exactly
There's nothing bad with not tipping at all. Sometimes it's written somewhere in the business that you shouldn't even tip at all.
Where I work, tip is divided by person and hour. Therefor, everybody does his best to make the clients happy. Unlike in the U.S. this is quite normal in germany.
If you're not sure who is responsible for mistakes, just tell the waiter what's wrong anyways.
It's his job to make it right. If he failed and you are still unsatisfied, tell him and don't tip.
But I think it's rude and unfair not to tip when you had service and told them that everything was fine.
Depends on the venue. In a proper restaurant you at least round the sum up.
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I’ve seen German taxi drivers try diligently to give back every bit of change and seem puzzled by a 10% tip as if it had just been invented. A Vienna taxi driver once gave us a long rant that tourists do not tip him enough and he’d starve on the meter fee and where do the tourists think they are, Germany still?
Also, if you are in a hotel and leave, it is standard to leave some money behind (e.g. on the table where they can see it) for the service personnel cleaning the hotel rooms every day. Something like 10 Euros per week you stay at a standard hotel, more if you stay in a 5 star suite of course.
freibier wtf never heard of that and never did it lol
That's the case in the US, but it's not the norm in Germany.
Probably not the norm in really cheap hotels, but you should do it in better hotels. Even "Knigge experts" recommend it (Reinigungspersonal): www.travelbook.de/service/trinkgeld-im-hotel-knigge-fuer-verschiedene-urlaubslaender-514631.html "Hierzulande gehört das Trinkgeld für die Reinigung des Zimmers oder den Room Service prinzipiell zum guten Ton."
Even having experienced a vast number of hotels of all variations, I cannot honestly say that I have ever known anyone here in Germany to do this. I absolutely do see the reasoning behind doing so, but it is definitely not "standard".
Never heard about that custom either, but maybe our opinions of "really cheap hotels" differ here. Again, with the wages the cleaning staff probably gets, a good idea, but unknown to me until two minutes ago.
Great video and all true. Whilst in Germany, tipping is seems to be the norm in restaurants, the hotels industry and taxis. I also found you tip toilet attendants of public toilets, usually this was about 50 Euro cents or your loose change.
I have a friend who is a very generous tipper. He gives 5€ for each pizza delivery and more in restaurants. But he never paid for a song, movie (sans cinema) or video game in his life. And he is consuming A LOT of media. He even stated that media just is something you are not supposed to pay for.
I personally try to tip between 10 and 20 percent at restaurants and hairdressers. These jobs are very badly paid and I really like being served. So I pay a decent tip if the service is friendly and made me feeling comfortable.
I know, that's more than usual in Germany.
Thanks for that advice on tipping! I was wondering how it worked. Have just moved from the UK to Austria and it seems to be similar here for restaurants.
Andrew saying: "Knigge is strangely silent on that other industry that likes tips..."
Me thinking: "Prostitution."
Andrew saying: "Hairdressing."
Me thinking: "D'oh!"
Hahaha! I hear you!
Funnily, i thought the same thing haha
Same I was thinking that too
I usually just round to the nearest $5. I also tip even if self service areas if my children have caused an issue. Having young 3 kinder can be challenge for all involved.
I can’t personally relate to this, really... When I tip (in Germany), I (as a German) don’t think in percentages. If the bill is €20,30, I’d just tell the waiter or waitress to make it €22 or €23. It might often be more of a convenience thing
Well, but how to express, why you don't choose to give 21€ or 25€. That is what percentages are for.
Exactly, never new anyone in Europe that tipped based on percentage.... I am sure there are lots who do it but I don't know anyone.
Usually people just give something extra, might be one euro might be 5 maybe be 10 it is up to them and depends on the quality of the service, not so much on how much we are paying.
@@holger_p They will not ask questions but be glad that you tipped at all because it isn't the norm to do so. You are thinking in American terms where some will be visibly upset that you didn't tip a certain amount. In Europe it is mostly a convenience thing that you do if you don't want small change back etc.
@@Mulmgott how did you examine ' the norm'. Did you do a survey? If every of 4 guests pay separatly an everybody tips, then why the tip should be smaller if one pays for all ? Or why not give more on a 3 course menu, than on a single drink ? There is a loose relation from the bill to the tip, also in germany.
I would be ashamed to give 1€ on an 150€ bill.
When you say "it is uncommon to tip at take-out restaurants" I wondered: is this common in other countries? Because in all my travels I never did this (and never read I should have), and am now a little concerned whether I urinated some people off by that.
In the US, you often find tip-jars. You pay for your order and put your tip in the jar.
You might have mentioned the tip for a pizza-boy. From my point of view it should be at least 5% but I often give 10 to 15%, depending on the weather outside ;-)
I lived in the Netherlands for 21 years and currently living for 1 year in Germany, I have never ever tipped in my life, not because I am stingy but because its really not a thing here, its not a common practice at all, plus I am anyway of the opinion that why would I give you extra money, I payed for what I came for. Also most of the time the person I would tip in the situation doesn't get to keep it anyway, and you are getting payed already for what you do anyway. If id ever go to America I wouldn't tip either purely out of principle, I do not want to support the terrible wage situation over there by tipping, nor is it really my problem, its theirs, but just give your staff a proper pay, done, its ridiculous that a country like the US allows people to have jobs where they have to beg for money from the already paying customers. Since id only be a tourist anyway I wouldn't fear of not tipping in the US, I won't be coming back anyway. Other countries where the standard of wages are lower there I defiantly tip if the service was good, because why not, there I understand that its nice to give something extra to the person. If the service was bad id only tip purely out of convenience for me, if you can call that tipping at least, so I don't get a bunch of coins back that I don't want.
It is a bit awkward with smallish sums (this was better with Marks). Tipping 1.10 is fairly generous with a bill of 9.90, roughly standard with a bill around 20 EUR and cheapskate with a bill of 40 EUR. So with small bills I would sometimes not tip at all, especially if there was no real service involved (say, a drink at a bars vs. a multi-course meal of several hours.)
Generally, around/at least 5% is a pretty good rule of thumb in restaurants.
It is also important that "paying separately" is usually not frowned upon in Germany (as it is in southern and, I think, Eastern Europe).
When splitting the bill in Belgium, it's not uncommon to be asked to pay at the cashier, and not at the waiter, as they often can't split the ticket. You'll have to trust everyone pays their dues when you come last ;)
This might be out of date, but I was taught that tipping the Inhaber/in in a Kneipe is bad form.
On closer examination, I see that grumpf grumpf has said the same thing in German.
I have never, ever in my life tipped a hairdresser
I got a tattoo in Wiesbaden a week and a half ago. She charged me 280 and I gave her 310, and she tried to tell me it was too much. I insisted, as she just gave me a permanent piece of art on my leg. It was between ten and eleven percent, and while I know that's a fair tip here I still felt like I was being cheap by my Canadian-American standards.
that is far too much. 300 would be the absolute limit. giving tip is more about rounding up than anything.
I always give tips to domino's pizza delivery guys and started to notice that they are waiting for the tip to leave ... so I tip them only when they are in time for the delivery
Comment on an old video, I know. Thanks for the tip about “stimmt so”. In your example, would you say “Macht es 22€” or is there a better way?
Thanks, I’m enjoying your channel.
the correct phrase is "Machen Sie 22 draus." ( _Machen Sie_ is the imperative while using formal addressing with _Sie_ ) or you just say the number while handing over the cash
@@nuvaboy Thanks very much
Basic rule for Tips: Round up.
Rounding down wouldn't be excepted anyway.
Today, we had lunch at a restaurant to celebrate my mother's birthday. The bill was € 150. The tip that my mother gave was € 5.
We are tipping our newspaper delivery person. Once a year, usually round christmas or the end of the year...
How about Strippers?
You know the Knigge, I am impressed! I read it once, probably 40 years ago and remember nothing. Maybe I should refresh...
BTW, do Brits have something similar to the Knigge?
Debrett’s is the nearest I can think of.
im german and i can say you dont have to tip at all! do if you like, dont if you dont want to or cant :)
i never do.. :)
Wenn man das Geld nicht hat (aus verschiedenen Gründen...), ok. Aber wenn ich zufrieden mit der Bedienung war, zahle ich immer Trinkgeld.
Es nicht zu tun ist einfach... unterste Schublade!
sgpch1983 Da würde ich mich nicht öfter in das gleiche Lokal trauen. Wer weiß was DU dann noch extra bekommst ;)
wie gut das ich so gut wie nie irgendwo hingehe, weil ich eh kein geld für sowas hab..
Nobody will force you to, but not tipping at all means that you think you received unacceptable service. So if that was not the case this is extremely offensive.
well then you have obviously never worked in the service industry. since becoming a waitress i tip much more simply because i know how shitty those jobs can be
Da hättest du zum Schluss schön einen Link zu deinem Patreon auf deiner Hand platzieren können ;)
Does Germany have a slightly tippier culture than the UK? I very rarely tip here.
Well I live in Germany and i don't really either, only in resteraunts basically, and I haven't gotten any negative feedback on that, so it's not that important as long as you are not going to luxury stuff I suppose
I have the feeling that tipping culture is receding. It used to be quite normal to tip if you got pizza delivery etc., but friends working in that line of business tell me that less and less people tip. We now have a minimum wage here, a rather new thing for Germany, and I think it is cause of people tipping less because they feel the delivery people now get proper wages so tipping isn't necessary anymore.
Doesn't stop me from tipping roughly 10% except when something wasn't right with the food.
Not tipping in a restaurant is more common too, I think it's rude and only appropriate if the waiter was very slow, rude or otherwise below standard.
It's nice to hear that people can easily afford to tip, and generously too.
I did tip but can hardly (with a good conscience) afford to eat out anymore now, and when I do/did, I often didn't tip.
Yes, slightly from my perception. But then, in the UK you have to fetch your own drinks ;-).
I'm British and live in the UK mostly, but think 10% average provided service is decent is about right, rarely more and only much less if the service is truly awful - occasionally I will give nothing, but then will have made it clear (politely) why. In Spain I give less, because that seems to be what Spaniards do, although I probably still give more than them, but the amounts are negligible to me so I don't think about it very much. Only in places like Japan or Thailand do I give very little or nothing, because there it genuinely seems to cause offence. In the US I suspect I'm regarded as a "cheapskate" because I don't automatically give 15-25%, although as prices are generally remarkably cheap (except in high-end places) this probably needs re-assessment by me. Sensible minimum wages, paying service staff decently, and making it clear whether service is included or not, would all help. On balance I'd rather give a little more than is generally expected, specially when I know I will return to a place again and again, wherever I am (high-end New York US excepted ;) ), because I want good service and think it should be rewarded. Also it's not just customer-contact staff, e.g. waiters, who make for decent services, other staff (back-office, kitchen-staff, etc) need to be incentivised too. PS/ If I stay in an hotel for more than one night & certainly two or three, it is always good manners I think to leave a little for the room-service people (min 10Euros,£,$) and in some poorer countries/places a little extra such as some expensive soap or other to them 'luxury' item; even in wealthy countries in Europe/other advanced countries, room service people are usually absymally paid.
Alright, I get this.
Ok, thats tipping in good old Germany. But what does a German to know about tipping in other Countries where tipping is more common or follow other rules like here?
usually you read travel guides about the country you are going to. Tipping culture is one of the central things every travel guide will definitely tell you about.
You search for a youtube video on "tipping in [country]" before leaving :P
I usually tipp more than 10% in a restaurant. Normaly 10% is like 1 or 2 euros. What is a waiter supposed to do with 2 Euros? So I usually tipp like 3 -5 Euros, wich is way more than 10%. But it feels kinda cheap to just tipp 1 Euro...
Well guess what, you're not the only customer in a day.
Where did Knigge write all this? I'd love to check it out...
In an ideal world, people would be paid decently and you'd only tip those who really go above and beyond the call of duty.
You actually apologise in your video to the waitress for giving her a generous tip??? You may have lived in Germany a long time but you are clearly still English.
Oh my, now I really do wanna leave a few bucks. I've seen youtubers use ko-fi as a tipping service that's less of a commitment than patreon. dunno how it works, though.
Oh man. To be honest, this just gave me a guilty conscience. Because the only occasions I've ever given tips have been in restaurants or food delivery. I have never thought of it when getting a ride by a cab or visiting the hairdresser
I usually tip in restaurants if the service was good and i tip my hairdresser, but she's worked on my hair for 15 years now...
Ein gutes Trinkgeld gibt es nur für guten Service.
Mieser Service = mieses Trinkgeld oder garnix.
Chef/in bekommt gar kein Trinkgeld, da ist guter Service sowieso Pflicht.
Pure Sentience .Doch
How big of a tip does a prostitute get? I guess it depends on the person...
Thanks for the tip, tip! Er...do I need to leave you a tip now?
AFAIK it should be possible to use Patreon without a credit card. You could use a Visa debit card for example, or a PayPal account with a bank account as funding source.
enjoyed the vid
A german friend of a friend said he is able to tax deduct the tips he gives at restaurants. Is this possible?
(Thanks for the videos, kind regards from Stuttgart)
I'm not sure how that works since the tip is given in cash without a receipt.
You have the recipe, and 10% is acceptable remember.
Actually, some receipts allow to write in tips. I've also seen managers ask waiters to sign off on the actual amount of money received.
Cool, learned something again. :) Thanks for the replies!
Hot day, you sweats.... :)
Tips are for convenience. Theres really no point in demanding to get back the 4.73€ you paid extra like what the fuck are ya gonna do with all that change? cant buy shit with the copper, and noone brings it all to a bank anyway so why bother its more convenient for everyone to just round it so something reasonable
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Du bist betrunken immernoch höflich und gibst zu viel Trinkgeld? Ich laube, mit Dir hat man Spaß! :D
The meaning of "zusammen" is totally different :
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And I was just kidding ;-)
NO NO NO there's not something like to much tip
If you have ordered a Pizza home, please give the delivery boy arount 2 euros. It doesn't hut you and that deliverer usually gets paid just enough to cover his own costs bringing you the pizza.
omg, I hate when people don't tip at all. people who work at restaurants etc on shitty hours when everybody else is having a good time earning only minimum wage which is 9€ pre-tax...
Here's a tip:
Unionize and demand liveabe wages.
ERSTER! :D